Just to correct you Mr. Quill - Her mother may not have directly told Diamond to "Blackmail" or "Exploit another pony disabilities" but she did not have to, Remember that children emulate what their parents do, If Spoiled Rich did this on a regular basis to those who worked for her or what not then in Diamond eyes that would be considered the Norm and how she is meant to treat others...Not as equals but below her in every way possible.
If DT did things trying to emulate her mother then they are still DT's actions. What Silver is trying to say is that just because he understands DT's reasons does not mean he instantly forgives her.
Dejay Page Well there is a chance the husband has no idea how the wife acts behind his back - After all he is 'Filthy Rich' and I do not believe he got there by spending too much time with his family you know? Probably just enough to affirm he cares about them before rushing back to work.
Very true, but Silver's point was that regardless as to what the mother does it doesn't excuse Diamond Tiara from being a bully, just because someone is a victim of bad parenting does not mean it's okay for them to treat others badly, we can forgive Diamond Tiara because she's a filly, but that doesn't make her behavior or what she's done okay.
I will never understand how an adult pony can have an issue with a "blank flank". How does that logic work? That's like a parent saying, "Don't associate with those pimple-faces." Or, "Did you hear his voice crack? How uncivilized." What?? I think she really needed to see a video on Pony biology... She really should understand by her age...
Except there _are_ adults like this and it's probably due to how they were raised and/or what they're discriminating against having something to do with their past. Spoiled Rich comes off as someone who may have had over-achieving parents or perhaps, got her cutiemark late in life, and now deals with her trauma by becoming what she once hated; her teasing peers or chiding parents.
I'd say that a child being a "Blank Flank" can parallel a child having low grades, being from a poor household, being disabled, being part of a minority group, and perhaps any number of other things. It's like when a rich parent doesn't want their child hanging out with poorer children from public school, instead enrolling them in expensive private schools.
I completely disagree. All Ponies are "Blank Flanks" at some point in their lives. It's a natural part of growing up, which i why I compared it to puberty. Not all children experience any of the things you listed off, so it isn't an equal comparison.
Minor correction: what you were describing as "nepotism" is actually cronyism. Nepotism is giving special privileges and opportunities to your family (for instance, the manager of a company giving a high-level job to his son instead of a more qualified candidate), cronyism is giving special privileges and opportunities to your friends.
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This is very late, but friends are also covered under nepotism.
One thing I do really like is how realistically they presented it. Pip won because of the skillful campaigning of the CMC but he actually turned out to be a worse leader than Diamond Tiara. It shows how becoming popular and being a great leader are two entirely separate skillsets. It also has a good message in that helping your underdog friend might not be a good idea as he might not be the best one for the job.
I honestly didn't think they'd get their marks until the very end of the series, but Hasbro decided not to that and I'm glad. These characters are really maturing as the series goes on.
What makes me truly admire the CMC is how even though Diamond Tiara Insulted them, blackmailed them and even bullied them, they still want to help Diamond Tiara out and check to see if she's ok. Their kindness and understand is what led to them helping others better themselves and with all their hard work, they were rewarded with their cutie marks. While children can learn from their parent's actions and vocabulary, children can learn from others as well so be kind and treat others well no matter how bad someone treats you. Show them that there's another way. 4:15 Yea I've faced multiple issues with youtube when it comes to MLP reviews. I mainly stopped my reviews of the show because my videos always got flagged because of audio, visuals or even images and the video title itself. Yea I fought them but they just keep coming back weeks later.
This could have been a great two part episode. It felt like there was so much to take in for such a small amount of time. The fact that they shortened Diamond Tiara's song on top of all of it.
I can't say it didn't leave an impact but it did have a rushed feel to it as in rushed how quickly it progressed. A two part episode could have worked out nicely in this case and not feel dragged out.
i wonder if you ever apologized to scootaloo for mocking her disability to not fly diamond tiara because technically not being able to fly for a pegasus is kinda considered as a handicap and knowing scootie like i do even if she wont admit it or show it im pretty sure it hurted her a lot so...yeah it would nice to apologize for that
I think Fancy Pants actually did what he did because of Twilight. Unlike most who for some reason didn't know that Twilight was Celestia's student he clearly did, he went immediately for Twilight after all instead of any of the mane 6. He knew that Celestia had big plans for Twilight, he didn't know exactly what they were but he knew she was destined for something big. Not to mention she's the closest thing Celestia has to a child and a bad word from Twilight would certainly not be good. He knew that Twilight was a pony he wanted to have as an ally. On that I really like Fancy Pants. The spoiled are so often vilified but he actually demonstrates the positive effects of an upper class person. He knows he's elite and above others. Because of that he's actually quite nice because he knows an overall positive reputation helps in the long term. He also associates with the right ponies. Someone like Spoiled Rich is more like someone who has come from lower class and then went into upper class. They feel insecure about their position and therefore feel that they have to prove to others that they are above them. Fancy Pants doesn't have that because he doesn't feel like he has anything to prove to lower ponies. One thing Fancy also has above Spoiled is that because he grew up rich rather than marrying into it he learned much better to handle his position. He doesn't abuse his position because he doesn't see the point of that action. They really demonstrate the difference between being born in power and forcefully taking power.
To be honest, I have watched enough Anime to be pretty forgiving of the villains in this show. If Vegeta can get off scot-free for blowing up planets and killing billions and Orochimaru gets a pass after experimenting on children, I can let what Diamon Tiara and Starlight has done slide.
This was the best CMC episode ever that I saw way back. Plus I loved the sick burn Silver Spoon gave Diamond Tiara. Though I hate Spoiled Rich but like you said Silver I can't place all the blame on her since it was Diamond's choice to do a lot of mean things. Also I cried at the part with Apple Jack telling Apple Bloom that if their parents were still with them they would be proud. Excellent video.
An entertainer has a certain responsibility to fans and the audience, but they also have every right to provide their views and commentary, even if just in minor ways. Indeed, it can drive wedges and even lose viewers, but taking an indifferent stand to politics to the point of refusing acknowledgement can be just as bad. It shows an unwillingness to stand for anything. And if you stand on nothing, you become a Cloudsdale politician. See, because pegasi walk on vaporous clouds, which are like nothing. Ah whatever. Fupping 'eck.
I have no doubt that they reserve the right to voice their opinion. I'm just also pointing out the danger of airing your political views and ideologies because of what it did to various news outlets, comedians, and media properties thus far.
Many comedians' success comes from putting humor on their life experiences, exaggerated or not. There's no risk in doing what you were meant to do. The same goes for media, where producers and executives should put opinions in their creation. Every story has at least one theme, even the simplest of shows, but there can be no theme with no opinion. As for news, it's just natural to draw on political views because that's a necessity of democracy; it does not work with an uninformed public. It's natural and important for there to be biased and unbiased news. Moreover, it's important to acknowledge these views and form discussions around them, not fall prey to the cowardice of modern political tactics, which is attempting to distract and discredit any opposition instead of supporting oneself.
I just realized this but they all have three images as their cutie mark. A good example is Sweetie Belle ( nice choice of French for a sister of a designer). She has the shield, but she also has a musical note inside it and a star... so she will most likely get a side hobby of singing (but she has not noticed that yet as in the next CMC episode she does crochet) and be one of the big stars. But hey, that's just a theory. A PONY THEORY!!! Thanks for getting the reference. (It was not intended but that is the way my cards fell.)
I agree silver, spoiled insulted the sisters of the heroes of equestria, apple jack who's family founded ponyville, rarity who owns a boutique in canterlout and makes the dresses and clothing for ponyville, and rainbow dash who's a future wonderbolt. Plus, the students to two of equastria's princesses.
It occurs to me that speech could also apply to what happened in the movie with Twilight and Tempest. After all, it wasn't as if Twilight gained anything by saving her. She certainly hadn't done anything to earn it, and she in fact blew a chance to get her power back and possibly save Equestria to rescue her. But...it was the "right", "decent", and "kind" thing to do.
Despite the episode's rushed pacing, I still consider it one of my favorites. It brings the long awaited payoff to the CMC's main story arc, and it's led to story opportunities to develop some of the side characters without needing to involve the Mane 6. Not to mention that those songs are GORGEOUS. "We'll Make Our Mark", "The Pony I Wanna Be", "Light of Your Cutie Mark". OH GOOD SWEET LUNA IT'S AMAZING! I STILL tear up whenever I see the Crusaders celebrating their achievement! I honestly feel that, because of the emotions this episode can bring out, it'll be counted as one of the best episodes of the show when all is said and done.
I can see where you are coming from. We've forgiven Starlight, who brainwashed ponies into joining her cult-like village and then screwed with time. We've forgiven Sunset, who nearly invaded Equestria with an army of brainwashed teens. We've forgiven the changelings, who cause not one, but two crisis in Equestria. We've forgiven Discord, who destroyed Equestria. And we've forgiven Stygian, who nearly cast all of Equestria into eternal darkness all because he was jealous. I think we can forgive Diamond Tiara. Not right away sure, but over time like with Sunset.
Crystal Master no the changelings stop being evil when they find out there are other ways. And all it took was one changeling to get away from the hive to find it. Which took a ton of guts. Especially when changelings are not exactly welcome
Crystal Master. You and your Queen Lily can hate Starlight until the cows come home for all I care. I am more neutral to Starlight anyway. But is Discord really any better than Starlight. Sure he is a more interesting character overall, but he is still a dick. Despite a few missteps, Starlight is still trying to make an effort to be a better person, while Discord is still a trolling douche 90% of the time.
10:03 I don't see it as a promise he couldn't keep. I'm pretty sure there was enough money in the budget for the playground... until Spoiled commissioned the statue of Tiara to celebrate a victory she hadn't even gotten yet. So, again, the blame falls to Spoiled. 12:55 oh, God, THANK YOU, Silver. That... that was pure brilliant. THANK YOU!
Gravity Falls did this episode better in Northwest Mansion Mystery. Same basic premise: bratty antagonist is redeemed by rebelling against their asshole parent(s) - but executed much more gracefully. For one, it's better paced, despite taking place in the same amount of time and juggling a similarly prominent B-plot. It's also way better at reframing the brat as a victim - in CotLM, it feels kind of token, because Spoiled Rich isn't portrayed as significantly worse than Diamond Tiara, nor is there as clear a connection between Tiara's actions and her upbringing. But in Gravity Falls, the parents are portrayed as outright abusive and controlling, making them way worse than Pacifica and making them much more directly responsible for their child's past actions. It does have the same problem of the character never being heard from again, though.
Sean Murphy Yeah that's true. Plus it helps that they shown Pacifica's parents before her reformation. I think it helps that she shows some sighs of changing before that episode unlike here it's all brought up here and her mother came out of nowhere. Shame that they didn't do anything with her afterwards.
Love the correlation to The Doctor Falls here. I never realized how similar those situations are, and the Doctor's speech about kindness is probably my favorite speech of all time. Great review all-in-all.
Interesting thing about Silver Spoon... I think she may be hiding something from us. Fair warning, I'm about to go into a lot of theory here, so I'm talking half a novel here, but I think it's in interesting possibility. Plausible, too. You see, I've always wondered why she keeps following Diamond Tiara when all the while, she's being neglected by her. Even from their very first episode, Diamond Tiara starts to ignore Silver Spoon in her efforts to cheer her up. It only gets worse from there. So why does she stay? That's when I noticed her cutie mark, and its connection to her name, as well as a contradiction in this episode. Her name comes from the phrase "born with a *silver spoon* in her mouth," which refers to inherited wealth. However, the reason behind that phrase is a simple concept: Spoon-feeding. So basically, she's been spoon-fed wealth her entire life. Sounds simple enough, right? Until you realize that Silver Spoon never really showed her wealth. We don't even see any hint of wealthiness from her. The closest we get is in the soft canon, specifically in the Elements of Harmony Volume II Guidebook, where it describes her as such: "SILVER SPOON leads a privileged life. She's been given everything she could possibly want. Sometimes she wonders if it'll ever be enough. In the meantime, she'll just keep on buying things she doesn't need." Now, I don't know about you... but this doesn't sound to me like wealth. To me, it sounds more like the polar opposite: *debt.* Interestingly enough, this episode actually has one line that I've always thought was out of place, and it came from Silver Spoon. In the Vote song, Silver Spoon gets her only singing part in the entire series, and she says something unmistakably false... or... almost does anyway. "I've a tiny suggestion that you should be aware. You could probably win this election if you show them all you reall-" What was she about to say here? Well, when you think about it, it has to be a single-syllable verb that rhymes with aware, and once you rule out every other rhyme, you'll come to only one conclusion. "All you really care." Not only has Diamond Tiara shown that she doesn't care about anyone in the class, but she's been shown in this episode - no... in this VERY SONG that she blackmails the other kids. I don't think Silver Spoon would lie about this though. So basically, believe it or not, Diamond Tiara DOES have a caring side. Now here's the question... To whom? There's only one logical answer here: Silver Spoon. So, so far we have Diamond Tiara's caring side for Silver Spoon, and Silver Spoon's expenditure. You can probably already make the connection, but I have one more piece of evidence. Now, look at the cutie mark, and notice the heart on the spoon's handle. Think about what that means metaphorically. Her heart is on the part of the spoon you hold. In any other context, it makes no sense, but think back to her name. She's lived her life not dissimilar to the concept of spoon-feeding, and the heart takes on a new meaning. A _VERY_ new meaning. Dependency. She who holds the spoon, holds the key to Silver Spoon's heart. This is the conclusion I've arrived at. *Silver Spoon's has metaphorically been spoon-fed her entire life, and whoever holds the spoon, holds her heart. However, after her parents spent so much money on her, they went bankrupt. Silver Spoon was no longer wealthy, and no longer happy. That's when Diamond Tiara came in...* ...and picked up where they left off.
I always imagined Luna looking at the picture of her little protégé’s succeeding in their life goals with so much pride and joy that she starts shivering with excitement and silently crying with joy.
Diamonds reformation was the only one i liked up till that point. Precisely because it wasn't forced. No Orbital Rainbow Friendship Bombardment from the Elements of Harmony. No threats, no life and death. Instead it seemed like an ACTUAL reformation of character. After Silver Spoon and Diamond Tiara fought, Diamond took a good hard look at herself and didn't like what she saw. And now she strives to be a better person. That is character development I can support. I still curse how quickly they reformed Sunset Shimmer and Luna. Starlight Glimmer seems to be following Diamond's lead. She was shocked into seeing what her actions could have led to, and now she is learning how to be a good person. Real reformation. No magic fix. She blunders alot, but she is getting there. And many members of the fandom have taken a liking to her because of that. Favorite Starlight Glimmer scene: Gliimmer: "I like kites." Maud: "Kites are cool."
Would love to collab with you someday silver you inspired me to make my channel. Anyway regarding the video it is funny to see peoples reaction to her reformation considering we are so used to Diamond being a bully. Just a shame that THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING with her since then
Well Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon pretty much went back to doing their own thing and she doesn't pick on them anymore. That's pretty much what I would have expected them to do. Reformed Diamond Tiara or not I don't think the CMCs and them really mesh well together as friends but i'm sure she feels like she owes them to some degree for helping her out.
Well, Diamond Tiara´s special talent is making others do what she wants, as we´ve seen several times throughout the show. She also stated it in this episode. And honestly, there´s not much you can do with such a character as protagonist or support. Maybe if the CMC need some help with a task, they could ask her for help, but then again, Diamond Tiara is rich, can easily control others and it seems as though her family has some form of connections all across Equestria, especially in the upper class. The only real story I can think of right now is that Applebloom asks her for help with something, she uses her connections and the best super power in the multiverse (money), but toally misses the point and has to learn a lesson like "help others the way they want, not the way you think is best." Who knows?
Thats the thing though. You can just cut it off there. You have to explore it more. Just as we explored the CMC with their marks we should also explore reformed villains. Its to see progress. When you forget about your own character it shows laziness and/or Unoragnized writing.
That is a point and its not like I like seeing Diamond Tiara in the background considering shes my favorite character in the entire show. A lot of people want to see them befriend the crusaders and become like a miniature mane 6 or something. Like they would work together and solve cutie mark problems together since solving CM problems is pretty much what the CMCs do in every episode now. This is not at all what I would like to see but i'm throwing it out there as a possibility and something I wouldn't at all be surprised to see happen in the show. I think it would feel forced. I would prefer a route where she doesn't befriend the crusaders but maybe still tries to pay them back for helping her. I always preferred seeing Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon as their own group separate from the crusaders.
I'm glad you love it as I do, Silver. Oddly enough, the two episodes it most reminds me of are among my least favorite. I had to work out how this differed. Funny you should complain about musicals increasing the pace, as I find they usually present the opposite problem: Most musical numbers suspend plot advancement for a few minutes. (As it happens, I just got back from watching "Crazy for You," which fits this description.)
funcoolfunfun... I totally agree with you. Crusaders of the Mark is the best episode and it is also my favorite episode. Well anyways I just can't resist saying this. I hope you have a Pony Kind of Christmas. :) I know the true name of the song is It's a Pony Kind of Christmas. :)
Silver Quill, I'd like to add to the idea of the CMC not being condemned for their innocent compassion towards Diamond Tiara, if I may. Have you seen a movie called Song of the Sea? It's a 2014 Irish animated film that involves a story of a family struggling through loss and explores the dangers of bottling emotions. One of the characters, a six year old mute girl wins the main character over, who initially hated her by letting her innocence be a beacon of light for him while recognizing how he was feeling. We often dismiss innocence as a weakness, but it was her greatest weapon throughout the entire movie, and it won the main villain over. She never suddenly gained a magical strength that allowed her to beat down the baddies; she removed herself from the darkness that consumed everyone else and used her ability to resist it to combat it away. It was a powerful example of what a strength innocence like this can be.
I think i found Celestia's least favorite word ever. Nepotism XD. It is intersting to point out that while she rewards those that have earned what they have, and clearly adores them, she is passive aggressive as ballz to the canterlot elite. She has twice now sabotaged the grand galloping galla, the biggest event for the canterlot snobs, and did so gleefuily. Oh the power of passive aggression :P
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They say time makes it easier to see things but the moment they go through that change for their cutie marks all I can say is here got the tears. Joy and happiness seeing them finally able to get a cutie mark after so many seasons prior. That scene always makes me tear up and the way you edit that scene with the flashbacks of the past God the feels the heart strings I'm going to be a teary mess all day.
I have literally been waiting for this after the fact! I love your opinion and outlooks, but most of all the humor! You sir always tickle my funny bone!
I also agree that Diamond Tiara isn’t totally absolved, but I’d like to point out that bit about her not seeing the better examples from families around. She probably did, but (as clearly shown in the episode) Spoiled Rich held pretty much all those other families up to Tiara as examples of contempt and inferiority. That’s why so many people are able to transfer their ill will to the mom, because ultimately Diamond Tiara is a child. And children don’t just emulate their parents, their standards and sense of right or wrong are taken from them as well. Spoiled Rich doesn’t have to tell Diamond Tiara to blackmail the CMC, she just has to make it clear that no method is too dirty if it helps you get ahead and/or that the absolute WORST result would be if she LOST to these ponies that are her “inferiors”. But also, children are vicious, vicious things and the DT is actually much more believable child character to me. So who knows??? Then again, I’ve seen elementary school kids beat their mothers in public and pay other kids to bully others for them after being placed under stricter supervision. So...that’s my bar...
So happy you're still doing reviews Silver. OMG ANOTHER 80s reference that I know about!!! Yeah I watched that show a lot as a kid and now the theme song is stuck in my head lol. Still my favorite episode of S5 and one of my favs of the series. You make a good point about DT's redemption and Spoiled's influence on her. However she was still a major factor. I am pretty much who I am because of my mother's direct influence, only instead of 'following' her lead, I completely rejected it since I am her polar opposite (and sadly, I don't want to have any association with her). Nice to know I wasn't the only one who thought that DT was technically 'moving up', but interacting with the CMC. Hell it got touched upon in Twilight Time.
I wonder if something will happen to Garble like with Diamond Tiara, going from the bully on top to eventually becoming the outcast like Spike and the CMC were in from their point of view. With how Ember is attempting to build relations between ponies and dragons the way dragons will see ponies will change and even their own ideals will be affected making a kind, caring dragon the type of dragon they want to strive to be rather than strong and intimidating like Garble. From what we’ve seen in the show so far, dragons are slowly starting to come around with Ember in charge and in Gauntlet of Fire and the first part of Shadow Play Spike managed to come out on top due to friendship. Hopefully there will be something like this in season 8.
YAY!!! Doctor Who Reference!!! Wait...for some reason Doctor Who and MLP:FiM is somewhat connected...if you think about it, Doctor Who and MLP:FiM are like alternate version on each other, with some other added actual Doctor Who References.
I'm a little confused as to why you would say the Equestria Girls version of Filthy Rich is a villain. Granted, I don't mean to bring this up to make you feel, in any way, obligated to rewatch that particular "film", but he gave a failing camp multiple extended times to pay the bills for the business they couldn't keep running (which, is uncharacteristically generous of anyone with designs for major construction), and given he had plans to make a resort, and knowing what little I do of construction, I still know how many city, county, and state boards you have to talk to, multiple times, just to get the permission to do anything with the land you have even after you own it, to say nothing of the logistics of beginning to hire workers for construction and potential hires for once the building is made (background checks being a thing and taking time to complete). So, him being shown to be a little miffed at the end of the movie doesn't seem like such a "villainous" action, even if you don't know anything about construction. In fact, he doesn't even cause a fuss. He just stays at the back of the cave during the ending music number and leaves. That seems like a pretty adult way to handle what was potentially, if not already was a lengthy investment. That ... rather lengthy "question" said, your commentary on this episode was spot on.
R. Downgrade He's a villain because villainous music played in the background when he was onscreen. Also, he had an "evil" smile and spoke in an "evil" tone of voice.
Giving her an extension on the payment sounds good, but look at his mannerisms and listen to the way he says it. That is not somebody who thinks that she's going to find the money before the end of the month. Plus he turns up in the middle of a camp to "take in the scenery", is told to come back when camp is over, agrees and then does the same thing the next day. There's no reason to do that unless he's trying to wind her up.
Except the first part of your theory is self defeating, since, if he doesn't expect to see the payment happen then he wouldn't bother with giving an extension in the first place. As for the second part, it is hardly irregular business practice to check on one's perspective property, especially when you are the person holding the purse-strings.
R. Downgrade Why would he give her the extension if he did think she could raise the money? As he says himself, the spa resort would line his pockets with more money than the camp ever could and why come back the next day after agreeing to wait until camp was over? Look at his whole demeanour when interacting with her. He's enjoying having power over her. The extension isn't for her benefit. It's simply drawing the whole thing out so he enjoy himself at her expense. Look at his mood when she announces that they've raised enough money to save the camp. He is not even slightly happy about getting his money.
When i first watch the episode i had expectations of diamond tiara's attitude comes from her comparisim but that changed as i was not expecting that her mother spoil rich rise in those kinds of way. As i do admit how much to acknowledge and learn that the cmc are the example of healthy type of relationship, sure they maybe mistakes they need to learn but they achieved their cute mark from the leasons they've learned. The jokes were halariouse as i couldn't stop smiling and chuckle along with your jokes as i appreciate your effort in reviewing and analyzing this episode as it's also my favroute cmc episode. I love the edit at the end since i still wish that the animators could make a flashback sequence as well. 🎄 Have a nice day and merry christmas good sir silver quil😉👏👏👍
It's been a while since you last posted an After the Fact video, but I''m glad to see the latest one from Season 5 on your channel, Silver Quill. Job well done. I hope the next one is uploaded in due time once you have everything together for it. I really want you to catch up with being two seasons behind as it is.
8:30 I think Spoiled only used Blank Flanks as a way of covering her clear distaste for the CMC. Why? Pipsqueak's a Blank Flank too, yet she seems to forget that due to his being from Trottingham
I feel like the best way to handle this story would have been as two separate episodes. Have one episode earlier in the season showing Diamond Tiara losing the election and Silver Spoon with the Crusaders extending the offer of friendship to her. Then have the follow up later in the season with Diamond Tiara making her choice and the Crusaders getting their marks.
I know you said in a previous ep that all three of them getting the same types of marks goes against individuality so im looking forward to seeing your follow up to it. ^^
Wow! Thank you so much for featuring my art piece! It really means a lot to me! On to other things: apparently you're a tank main XD. If you play Overwatch, i'd love to group up sometime!
Funny that this is now out, considering that I just rewatched the "Taking It Too Seriously" video for this episode not a few days ago. (Still won't deny though, that the first time I watched this-while in the long run, I may not have been HAPPY with their Cutie Marks-that this episode gave me MUCH Liquid Pride for the girls.)
This was definitely an episode most--if not ALL--of the fandom had been waiting for, and damn if it didn't disappoint! We finally got to see the end if an arc that the CMC had been stretching out since the very first season of the show, and through that, we also got to see the reformations of two recurring villains that have been around just as long. I'm not the biggest fan of musicals, but all in all, I can safely say that "Crusaders of the Lost Mark" (wonderful job on that Indiana Jones wordplay, DHX; well played) is by far one of my favorite episodes of the series. Also, I have to commend Silver on his expert hook work there. But I do have a concern... Did you steal that hook straight from Roadhog himself, or is it a replica? 'Cuz if it's the real deal... I just hope him and Junkrat go easy on you.
Children do not have the responceability to seek betterment out of what should be a parents job. ZERO responceability. Doesnt mean they didnt do it, but it DOES NOT mean you get to say she should have looked. And child abuse or where parent chooses to leave or direct akid 100% has effect on said kid. No "may have had influence" at all, for a child their parents ARE their world and morals.
Just to correct you Mr. Quill - Her mother may not have directly told Diamond to "Blackmail" or "Exploit another pony disabilities" but she did not have to, Remember that children emulate what their parents do, If Spoiled Rich did this on a regular basis to those who worked for her or what not then in Diamond eyes that would be considered the Norm and how she is meant to treat others...Not as equals but below her in every way possible.
If DT did things trying to emulate her mother then they are still DT's actions.
What Silver is trying to say is that just because he understands DT's reasons does not mean he instantly forgives her.
As I've often heard others say "It's a reason, but not an excuse."
Soul The Lalafell agreed the mom was the reason for the ideas. Plus I doubt that doormat husband did anything to stop her
Dejay Page Well there is a chance the husband has no idea how the wife acts behind his back - After all he is 'Filthy Rich' and I do not believe he got there by spending too much time with his family you know? Probably just enough to affirm he cares about them before rushing back to work.
Very true, but Silver's point was that regardless as to what the mother does it doesn't excuse Diamond Tiara from being a bully, just because someone is a victim of bad parenting does not mean it's okay for them to treat others badly, we can forgive Diamond Tiara because she's a filly, but that doesn't make her behavior or what she's done okay.
"OH SWEET MAMA JAMA WHAT IS WRONG WITH HER SNOUT!" -Silver Quil 2017
it may be the equivalence of the noce in the air?
She does show the trait in her every move, after all.
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Where is it
I’m guessing she got a snout job at some point.
I will never understand how an adult pony can have an issue with a "blank flank". How does that logic work? That's like a parent saying, "Don't associate with those pimple-faces." Or, "Did you hear his voice crack? How uncivilized." What?? I think she really needed to see a video on Pony biology... She really should understand by her age...
Except there _are_ adults like this and it's probably due to how they were raised and/or what they're discriminating against having something to do with their past. Spoiled Rich comes off as someone who may have had over-achieving parents or perhaps, got her cutiemark late in life, and now deals with her trauma by becoming what she once hated; her teasing peers or chiding parents.
I'd say that a child being a "Blank Flank" can parallel a child having low grades, being from a poor household, being disabled, being part of a minority group, and perhaps any number of other things. It's like when a rich parent doesn't want their child hanging out with poorer children from public school, instead enrolling them in expensive private schools.
+TheAmberFang either that or kids without goals.
Fair point. Still stupid, but at least it makes sense.
I completely disagree. All Ponies are "Blank Flanks" at some point in their lives. It's a natural part of growing up, which i why I compared it to puberty. Not all children experience any of the things you listed off, so it isn't an equal comparison.
"Who watches Silver Quill at 3AM?"Me: "Oh boy, 3AM!"
ShadowBrony it's 5 am for me xD
When this was uploaded, it was 12:00 for me.
You must be lonely?
(rewatching this yet again) 4 am here! :D
4:06am as I get the this pip-squeak card xD
Minor correction: what you were describing as "nepotism" is actually cronyism. Nepotism is giving special privileges and opportunities to your family (for instance, the manager of a company giving a high-level job to his son instead of a more qualified candidate), cronyism is giving special privileges and opportunities to your friends.
This is very late, but friends are also covered under nepotism.
That's still nepotism. Just a more specific word in this case.
One thing I do really like is how realistically they presented it. Pip won because of the skillful campaigning of the CMC but he actually turned out to be a worse leader than Diamond Tiara. It shows how becoming popular and being a great leader are two entirely separate skillsets. It also has a good message in that helping your underdog friend might not be a good idea as he might not be the best one for the job.
I honestly didn't think they'd get their marks until the very end of the series, but Hasbro decided not to that and I'm glad. These characters are really maturing as the series goes on.
What makes me truly admire the CMC is how even though Diamond Tiara Insulted them, blackmailed them and even bullied them, they still want to help Diamond Tiara out and check to see if she's ok. Their kindness and understand is what led to them helping others better themselves and with all their hard work, they were rewarded with their cutie marks. While children can learn from their parent's actions and vocabulary, children can learn from others as well so be kind and treat others well no matter how bad someone treats you. Show them that there's another way.
4:15 Yea I've faced multiple issues with youtube when it comes to MLP reviews. I mainly stopped my reviews of the show because my videos always got flagged because of audio, visuals or even images and the video title itself. Yea I fought them but they just keep coming back weeks later.
Its also not like its out of character, just think back to One Bad Apple.
"If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat/If he is thirsty, give him water to drink." -- Proverbs 25:21
YOU DID A DOCTOR WHO REFERENCE !yay
“Mud Pie”?
@@GlitchyFoxGamer pies here the muds outside :p
It only took 3 years for the hundredths like
I love that Doctor Who scene. 12th Doctor was a good one!
This could have been a great two part episode. It felt like there was so much to take in for such a small amount of time. The fact that they shortened Diamond Tiara's song on top of all of it.
It's great as it is. I feel the same for Magical Mystery Cure and Keep Calm and Flutter on but they neened two parters more.
I can't say it didn't leave an impact but it did have a rushed feel to it as in rushed how quickly it progressed. A two part episode could have worked out nicely in this case and not feel dragged out.
Diamond Tiara Please come back my dear!
Nice to know that I'm not the only one who felt that this should have been a two-parter.
i wonder if you ever apologized to scootaloo for mocking her disability to not fly diamond tiara because technically not being able to fly for a pegasus is kinda considered as a handicap and knowing scootie like i do even if she wont admit it or show it im pretty sure it hurted her a lot so...yeah it would nice to apologize for that
I think Fancy Pants actually did what he did because of Twilight. Unlike most who for some reason didn't know that Twilight was Celestia's student he clearly did, he went immediately for Twilight after all instead of any of the mane 6. He knew that Celestia had big plans for Twilight, he didn't know exactly what they were but he knew she was destined for something big. Not to mention she's the closest thing Celestia has to a child and a bad word from Twilight would certainly not be good. He knew that Twilight was a pony he wanted to have as an ally.
On that I really like Fancy Pants. The spoiled are so often vilified but he actually demonstrates the positive effects of an upper class person. He knows he's elite and above others. Because of that he's actually quite nice because he knows an overall positive reputation helps in the long term. He also associates with the right ponies. Someone like Spoiled Rich is more like someone who has come from lower class and then went into upper class. They feel insecure about their position and therefore feel that they have to prove to others that they are above them. Fancy Pants doesn't have that because he doesn't feel like he has anything to prove to lower ponies.
One thing Fancy also has above Spoiled is that because he grew up rich rather than marrying into it he learned much better to handle his position. He doesn't abuse his position because he doesn't see the point of that action. They really demonstrate the difference between being born in power and forcefully taking power.
Pony Peter Capaldi, best episode of SilverQuill.
To be honest, I have watched enough Anime to be pretty forgiving of the villains in this show. If Vegeta can get off scot-free for blowing up planets and killing billions and Orochimaru gets a pass after experimenting on children, I can let what Diamon Tiara and Starlight has done slide.
SPOILERS i havent finished naruto shipunden yet
THAT SNAKE FACED BASTARD HAS A KID! WTF?! Vegeta I can let go because his transition was gradual
@Grima the Fell Dragon I agree with you the only to defeat a villain is to make them a friend
More After the Fact episodes need old school educational PSA films. Gee Mister Quill, you're the gee golly best.
This was the best CMC episode ever that I saw way back. Plus I loved the sick burn Silver Spoon gave Diamond Tiara. Though I hate Spoiled Rich but like you said Silver I can't place all the blame on her since it was Diamond's choice to do a lot of mean things. Also I cried at the part with Apple Jack telling Apple Bloom that if their parents were still with them they would be proud. Excellent video.
3:01 The only winning move for an entertainer is to never touch real life politics. It's life's biggest divider.
3:31 WHAT DID I JUST SAY!?
Nonsense, making fun of politics is the best way to garner attention. All forms of attention.
And drive a big divider between your audience members. Just look at Pewdiepie or Star Trek Discovery.
An entertainer has a certain responsibility to fans and the audience, but they also have every right to provide their views and commentary, even if just in minor ways. Indeed, it can drive wedges and even lose viewers, but taking an indifferent stand to politics to the point of refusing acknowledgement can be just as bad. It shows an unwillingness to stand for anything.
And if you stand on nothing, you become a Cloudsdale politician.
See, because pegasi walk on vaporous clouds, which are like nothing.
Ah whatever. Fupping 'eck.
I have no doubt that they reserve the right to voice their opinion. I'm just also pointing out the danger of airing your political views and ideologies because of what it did to various news outlets, comedians, and media properties thus far.
Many comedians' success comes from putting humor on their life experiences, exaggerated or not. There's no risk in doing what you were meant to do. The same goes for media, where producers and executives should put opinions in their creation. Every story has at least one theme, even the simplest of shows, but there can be no theme with no opinion. As for news, it's just natural to draw on political views because that's a necessity of democracy; it does not work with an uninformed public. It's natural and important for there to be biased and unbiased news.
Moreover, it's important to acknowledge these views and form discussions around them, not fall prey to the cowardice of modern political tactics, which is attempting to distract and discredit any opposition instead of supporting oneself.
I just realized this but they all have three images as their cutie mark. A good example is Sweetie Belle ( nice choice of French for a sister of a designer). She has the shield, but she also has a musical note inside it and a star... so she will most likely get a side hobby of singing (but she has not noticed that yet as in the next CMC episode she does crochet) and be one of the big stars. But hey, that's just a theory. A PONY THEORY!!! Thanks for getting the reference. (It was not intended but that is the way my cards fell.)
I agree silver, spoiled insulted the sisters of the heroes of equestria, apple jack who's family founded ponyville, rarity who owns a boutique in canterlout and makes the dresses and clothing for ponyville, and rainbow dash who's a future wonderbolt. Plus, the students to two of equastria's princesses.
And (with this video made after the 2017 movie) I doubt she's exactly buddies with Derpy.
“Can we get these Halos?”
😀👍
Love the Doctor Who and Overwatch reference
"Let's make the playground great again"
Also your Dr Who reference had me wondering, maybe we will see a mare vision of Doctor Hooves next season!
I love reference to the Doctor's kindness speech from the season finale, I love Doctor Who references!! and also the Simpson's reference
It occurs to me that speech could also apply to what happened in the movie with Twilight and Tempest. After all, it wasn't as if Twilight gained anything by saving her. She certainly hadn't done anything to earn it, and she in fact blew a chance to get her power back and possibly save Equestria to rescue her. But...it was the "right", "decent", and "kind" thing to do.
I cried when they got their cutie marks. It’s like watching your child finally grow up.
I guess you could say Luna was...over the moon? Eh? Eh?
😒🙄😎YEAAAAAAHHH, 😓😐😑, she is.
Star Glitter Glow *Seinfeld theme intensifies*
*finger guns*
You know where the door is.
With apologies to Shakespony: I like thy wit well, i'faith.
The doctor’s speeches are always the greatest things to hear cause they are the best moments in the doctor who series.
Despite the episode's rushed pacing, I still consider it one of my favorites. It brings the long awaited payoff to the CMC's main story arc, and it's led to story opportunities to develop some of the side characters without needing to involve the Mane 6. Not to mention that those songs are GORGEOUS. "We'll Make Our Mark", "The Pony I Wanna Be", "Light of Your Cutie Mark". OH GOOD SWEET LUNA IT'S AMAZING! I STILL tear up whenever I see the Crusaders celebrating their achievement! I honestly feel that, because of the emotions this episode can bring out, it'll be counted as one of the best episodes of the show when all is said and done.
If we can forgive the pony that nearly caused Armageddon...TAKE YOUR PICK, we can forgive Diamond Tiara with ease.
I don't
I don't forgive either.
I can see where you are coming from. We've forgiven Starlight, who brainwashed ponies into joining her cult-like village and then screwed with time. We've forgiven Sunset, who nearly invaded Equestria with an army of brainwashed teens. We've forgiven the changelings, who cause not one, but two crisis in Equestria. We've forgiven Discord, who destroyed Equestria. And we've forgiven Stygian, who nearly cast all of Equestria into eternal darkness all because he was jealous. I think we can forgive Diamond Tiara. Not right away sure, but over time like with Sunset.
Crystal Master no the changelings stop being evil when they find out there are other ways. And all it took was one changeling to get away from the hive to find it. Which took a ton of guts. Especially when changelings are not exactly welcome
Crystal Master. You and your Queen Lily can hate Starlight until the cows come home for all I care. I am more neutral to Starlight anyway. But is Discord really any better than Starlight. Sure he is a more interesting character overall, but he is still a dick. Despite a few missteps, Starlight is still trying to make an effort to be a better person, while Discord is still a trolling douche 90% of the time.
10:03 I don't see it as a promise he couldn't keep. I'm pretty sure there was enough money in the budget for the playground... until Spoiled commissioned the statue of Tiara to celebrate a victory she hadn't even gotten yet. So, again, the blame falls to Spoiled.
12:55 oh, God, THANK YOU, Silver. That... that was pure brilliant.
THANK YOU!
"We can't control how other people act; but we can master our own actions."
Your tongue is silver Quill, as your name would suggest ;)
That thumbnail is one of the cutest things I've seen in quite a while.
this was by far one of the greatest episodes that season
Gravity Falls did this episode better in Northwest Mansion Mystery. Same basic premise: bratty antagonist is redeemed by rebelling against their asshole parent(s) - but executed much more gracefully. For one, it's better paced, despite taking place in the same amount of time and juggling a similarly prominent B-plot. It's also way better at reframing the brat as a victim - in CotLM, it feels kind of token, because Spoiled Rich isn't portrayed as significantly worse than Diamond Tiara, nor is there as clear a connection between Tiara's actions and her upbringing. But in Gravity Falls, the parents are portrayed as outright abusive and controlling, making them way worse than Pacifica and making them much more directly responsible for their child's past actions. It does have the same problem of the character never being heard from again, though.
Sean Murphy Yeah that's true. Plus it helps that they shown Pacifica's parents before her reformation. I think it helps that she shows some sighs of changing before that episode unlike here it's all brought up here and her mother came out of nowhere. Shame that they didn't do anything with her afterwards.
1:24, that picture was adorable
Love the correlation to The Doctor Falls here. I never realized how similar those situations are, and the Doctor's speech about kindness is probably my favorite speech of all time. Great review all-in-all.
Interesting thing about Silver Spoon... I think she may be hiding something from us. Fair warning, I'm about to go into a lot of theory here, so I'm talking half a novel here, but I think it's in interesting possibility. Plausible, too.
You see, I've always wondered why she keeps following Diamond Tiara when all the while, she's being neglected by her. Even from their very first episode, Diamond Tiara starts to ignore Silver Spoon in her efforts to cheer her up. It only gets worse from there. So why does she stay? That's when I noticed her cutie mark, and its connection to her name, as well as a contradiction in this episode.
Her name comes from the phrase "born with a *silver spoon* in her mouth," which refers to inherited wealth. However, the reason behind that phrase is a simple concept: Spoon-feeding. So basically, she's been spoon-fed wealth her entire life. Sounds simple enough, right? Until you realize that Silver Spoon never really showed her wealth. We don't even see any hint of wealthiness from her. The closest we get is in the soft canon, specifically in the Elements of Harmony Volume II Guidebook, where it describes her as such: "SILVER SPOON leads a privileged life. She's been given everything she could possibly want. Sometimes she wonders if it'll ever be enough. In the meantime, she'll just keep on buying things she doesn't need." Now, I don't know about you... but this doesn't sound to me like wealth. To me, it sounds more like the polar opposite: *debt.*
Interestingly enough, this episode actually has one line that I've always thought was out of place, and it came from Silver Spoon. In the Vote song, Silver Spoon gets her only singing part in the entire series, and she says something unmistakably false... or... almost does anyway. "I've a tiny suggestion that you should be aware. You could probably win this election if you show them all you reall-" What was she about to say here? Well, when you think about it, it has to be a single-syllable verb that rhymes with aware, and once you rule out every other rhyme, you'll come to only one conclusion. "All you really care." Not only has Diamond Tiara shown that she doesn't care about anyone in the class, but she's been shown in this episode - no... in this VERY SONG that she blackmails the other kids. I don't think Silver Spoon would lie about this though. So basically, believe it or not, Diamond Tiara DOES have a caring side. Now here's the question... To whom? There's only one logical answer here: Silver Spoon.
So, so far we have Diamond Tiara's caring side for Silver Spoon, and Silver Spoon's expenditure. You can probably already make the connection, but I have one more piece of evidence. Now, look at the cutie mark, and notice the heart on the spoon's handle. Think about what that means metaphorically. Her heart is on the part of the spoon you hold. In any other context, it makes no sense, but think back to her name. She's lived her life not dissimilar to the concept of spoon-feeding, and the heart takes on a new meaning. A _VERY_ new meaning. Dependency. She who holds the spoon, holds the key to Silver Spoon's heart. This is the conclusion I've arrived at.
*Silver Spoon's has metaphorically been spoon-fed her entire life, and whoever holds the spoon, holds her heart. However, after her parents spent so much money on her, they went bankrupt. Silver Spoon was no longer wealthy, and no longer happy. That's when Diamond Tiara came in...*
...and picked up where they left off.
ShTHfan 1 That's actually a pretty good theory.
I always imagined Luna looking at the picture of her little protégé’s succeeding in their life goals with so much pride and joy that she starts shivering with excitement and silently crying with joy.
numaTruehome 100 I find this adorable!
Diamonds reformation was the only one i liked up till that point. Precisely because it wasn't forced. No Orbital Rainbow Friendship Bombardment from the Elements of Harmony. No threats, no life and death.
Instead it seemed like an ACTUAL reformation of character.
After Silver Spoon and Diamond Tiara fought, Diamond took a good hard look at herself and didn't like what she saw. And now she strives to be a better person. That is character development I can support.
I still curse how quickly they reformed Sunset Shimmer and Luna.
Starlight Glimmer seems to be following Diamond's lead. She was shocked into seeing what her actions could have led to, and now she is learning how to be a good person. Real reformation. No magic fix. She blunders alot, but she is getting there. And many members of the fandom have taken a liking to her because of that.
Favorite Starlight Glimmer scene:
Gliimmer: "I like kites."
Maud: "Kites are cool."
I was not ready to see a Capaldi-pony.
It's going to take a while to accept that that's a thing O_o
Given how often stuff is ponified I'd be more surprised if it weren't a thing.
You make a fair point. I just wasn't expecting to see it first thing in the morning XD
Silver introduced that one _way_ back in his "Slice of Life" review.
Would love to collab with you someday silver you inspired me to make my channel. Anyway regarding the video it is funny to see peoples reaction to her reformation considering we are so used to Diamond being a bully. Just a shame that THEY DIDNT DO ANYTHING with her since then
Well Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon pretty much went back to doing their own thing and she doesn't pick on them anymore. That's pretty much what I would have expected them to do. Reformed Diamond Tiara or not I don't think the CMCs and them really mesh well together as friends but i'm sure she feels like she owes them to some degree for helping her out.
Well, Diamond Tiara´s special talent is making others do what she wants, as we´ve seen several times throughout the show. She also stated it in this episode.
And honestly, there´s not much you can do with such a character as protagonist or support.
Maybe if the CMC need some help with a task, they could ask her for help, but then again, Diamond Tiara is rich, can easily control others and it seems as though her family has some form of connections all across Equestria, especially in the upper class.
The only real story I can think of right now is that Applebloom asks her for help with something, she uses her connections and the best super power in the multiverse (money), but toally misses the point and has to learn a lesson like "help others the way they want, not the way you think is best." Who knows?
Epic Fable i would like to collab with you.
Thats the thing though. You can just cut it off there. You have to explore it more. Just as we explored the CMC with their marks we should also explore reformed villains. Its to see progress. When you forget about your own character it shows laziness and/or Unoragnized writing.
That is a point and its not like I like seeing Diamond Tiara in the background considering shes my favorite character in the entire show. A lot of people want to see them befriend the crusaders and become like a miniature mane 6 or something. Like they would work together and solve cutie mark problems together since solving CM problems is pretty much what the CMCs do in every episode now. This is not at all what I would like to see but i'm throwing it out there as a possibility and something I wouldn't at all be surprised to see happen in the show. I think it would feel forced. I would prefer a route where she doesn't befriend the crusaders but maybe still tries to pay them back for helping her. I always preferred seeing Diamond Tiara and Silver Spoon as their own group separate from the crusaders.
Oh hey, it's the best MLP reviewer reviewing the best episode.
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Today's a good day.
I'm glad you love it as I do, Silver. Oddly enough, the two episodes it most reminds me of are among my least favorite. I had to work out how this differed.
Funny you should complain about musicals increasing the pace, as I find they usually present the opposite problem: Most musical numbers suspend plot advancement for a few minutes. (As it happens, I just got back from watching "Crazy for You," which fits this description.)
+1 for the Twelfth Doctor's speech
I remember beeing so hyped to know your reaction to this when the episode aired! *Grabs Popcorn* Life off. Video on!
This, to me, will ALWAYS remain the best episode of the series.
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I totally agree with you. Crusaders of the Mark is the best episode and it is also my favorite episode. Well anyways I just can't resist saying this. I hope you have a Pony Kind of Christmas. :) I know the true name of the song is It's a Pony Kind of Christmas. :)
Silver Quill, I'd like to add to the idea of the CMC not being condemned for their innocent compassion towards Diamond Tiara, if I may. Have you seen a movie called Song of the Sea? It's a 2014 Irish animated film that involves a story of a family struggling through loss and explores the dangers of bottling emotions. One of the characters, a six year old mute girl wins the main character over, who initially hated her by letting her innocence be a beacon of light for him while recognizing how he was feeling. We often dismiss innocence as a weakness, but it was her greatest weapon throughout the entire movie, and it won the main villain over. She never suddenly gained a magical strength that allowed her to beat down the baddies; she removed herself from the darkness that consumed everyone else and used her ability to resist it to combat it away. It was a powerful example of what a strength innocence like this can be.
I remember that movie. We watched it in my Mythology class in my senior year of high school.
I've been waiting for this review for forever. Glad to see it was worth the wait.
Damn it. That scene with them getting their cutie marks always manages to make me tear up.
No matter how many times I watch the cutie mark scene I still wanna cry.
what i remember this episode is how it aired exactly 5 years after the premiere of MLP FIM
This is my favorite mlp episode! It just warms my heart so much to see the crusaders finally achieving their ultimate goal.
YES!!! I've been WAITING for the After the Fact for this episode...now make more of these! I wanna see more!!!!
I think i found Celestia's least favorite word ever. Nepotism XD.
It is intersting to point out that while she rewards those that have earned what they have, and clearly adores them, she is passive aggressive as ballz to the canterlot elite.
She has twice now sabotaged the grand galloping galla, the biggest event for the canterlot snobs, and did so gleefuily. Oh the power of passive aggression :P
That makes so much sense
Gotta love that goofy Silver Quill grin. That, "I'm the boss and I just farted in a sealed boardroom on chili night" face
Hello Silverquill.
I would like to say that I really enjoy your videos.
I would like to say that they are all amazing, and I love the comments and humour used.
You are amazing, and I look forward to watching more of your content.
on behalf of all your fans:
Thank you!
They say time makes it easier to see things but the moment they go through that change for their cutie marks all I can say is here got the tears. Joy and happiness seeing them finally able to get a cutie mark after so many seasons prior. That scene always makes me tear up and the way you edit that scene with the flashbacks of the past God the feels the heart strings I'm going to be a teary mess all day.
SILVER IS BACK BABY!! So glad to see your making videos and even more glad to be a fan who's been able to thank you for your work
I have literally been waiting for this after the fact! I love your opinion and outlooks, but most of all the humor! You sir always tickle my funny bone!
Silver Quill: Fortunately, I brought a visual aid.
*countdown plays*
*ad immediately comes on after countdown*
Me: -_-
That moment you start crying in the middle of the video because CUTIE MARK CRUSADERS FOREVER!
It gets me every time. And I love when it happens.
I also agree that Diamond Tiara isn’t totally absolved, but I’d like to point out that bit about her not seeing the better examples from families around. She probably did, but (as clearly shown in the episode) Spoiled Rich held pretty much all those other families up to Tiara as examples of contempt and inferiority. That’s why so many people are able to transfer their ill will to the mom, because ultimately Diamond Tiara is a child. And children don’t just emulate their parents, their standards and sense of right or wrong are taken from them as well.
Spoiled Rich doesn’t have to tell Diamond Tiara to blackmail the CMC, she just has to make it clear that no method is too dirty if it helps you get ahead and/or that the absolute WORST result would be if she LOST to these ponies that are her “inferiors”.
But also, children are vicious, vicious things and the DT is actually much more believable child character to me. So who knows???
Then again, I’ve seen elementary school kids beat their mothers in public and pay other kids to bully others for them after being placed under stricter supervision. So...that’s my bar...
So happy you're still doing reviews Silver. OMG ANOTHER 80s reference that I know about!!! Yeah I watched that show a lot as a kid and now the theme song is stuck in my head lol.
Still my favorite episode of S5 and one of my favs of the series. You make a good point about DT's redemption and Spoiled's influence on her. However she was still a major factor. I am pretty much who I am because of my mother's direct influence, only instead of 'following' her lead, I completely rejected it since I am her polar opposite (and sadly, I don't want to have any association with her).
Nice to know I wasn't the only one who thought that DT was technically 'moving up', but interacting with the CMC. Hell it got touched upon in Twilight Time.
I wonder if something will happen to Garble like with Diamond Tiara, going from the bully on top to eventually becoming the outcast like Spike and the CMC were in from their point of view. With how Ember is attempting to build relations between ponies and dragons the way dragons will see ponies will change and even their own ideals will be affected making a kind, caring dragon the type of dragon they want to strive to be rather than strong and intimidating like Garble.
From what we’ve seen in the show so far, dragons are slowly starting to come around with Ember in charge and in Gauntlet of Fire and the first part of Shadow Play Spike managed to come out on top due to friendship. Hopefully there will be something like this in season 8.
4:18
Yes, death to the useless system!!!
YAY!!! Doctor Who Reference!!!
Wait...for some reason Doctor Who and MLP:FiM is somewhat connected...if you think about it, Doctor Who and MLP:FiM are like alternate version on each other, with some other added actual Doctor Who References.
I'm a little confused as to why you would say the Equestria Girls version of Filthy Rich is a villain.
Granted, I don't mean to bring this up to make you feel, in any way, obligated to rewatch that particular "film", but he gave a failing camp multiple extended times to pay the bills for the business they couldn't keep running (which, is uncharacteristically generous of anyone with designs for major construction), and given he had plans to make a resort, and knowing what little I do of construction, I still know how many city, county, and state boards you have to talk to, multiple times, just to get the permission to do anything with the land you have even after you own it, to say nothing of the logistics of beginning to hire workers for construction and potential hires for once the building is made (background checks being a thing and taking time to complete).
So, him being shown to be a little miffed at the end of the movie doesn't seem like such a "villainous" action, even if you don't know anything about construction. In fact, he doesn't even cause a fuss. He just stays at the back of the cave during the ending music number and leaves. That seems like a pretty adult way to handle what was potentially, if not already was a lengthy investment.
That ... rather lengthy "question" said, your commentary on this episode was spot on.
R. Downgrade He's a villain because villainous music played in the background when he was onscreen. Also, he had an "evil" smile and spoke in an "evil" tone of voice.
Giving her an extension on the payment sounds good, but look at his mannerisms and listen to the way he says it. That is not somebody who thinks that she's going to find the money before the end of the month. Plus he turns up in the middle of a camp to "take in the scenery", is told to come back when camp is over, agrees and then does the same thing the next day. There's no reason to do that unless he's trying to wind her up.
Heh, nice.
Except the first part of your theory is self defeating, since, if he doesn't expect to see the payment happen then he wouldn't bother with giving an extension in the first place. As for the second part, it is hardly irregular business practice to check on one's perspective property, especially when you are the person holding the purse-strings.
R. Downgrade Why would he give her the extension if he did think she could raise the money? As he says himself, the spa resort would line his pockets with more money than the camp ever could and why come back the next day after agreeing to wait until camp was over? Look at his whole demeanour when interacting with her. He's enjoying having power over her. The extension isn't for her benefit. It's simply drawing the whole thing out so he enjoy himself at her expense. Look at his mood when she announces that they've raised enough money to save the camp. He is not even slightly happy about getting his money.
13:33 You really really wanted me to cry, didn't you?
That part on its own is enough but that was just an overload.
Nice to see your still doing reviews.
When i first watch the episode i had expectations of diamond tiara's attitude comes from her comparisim but that changed as i was not expecting that her mother spoil rich rise in those kinds of way.
As i do admit how much to acknowledge and learn that the cmc are the example of healthy type of relationship, sure they maybe mistakes they need to learn but they achieved their cute mark from the leasons they've learned.
The jokes were halariouse as i couldn't stop smiling and chuckle along with your jokes as i appreciate your effort in reviewing and analyzing this episode as it's also my favroute cmc episode.
I love the edit at the end since i still wish that the animators could make a flashback sequence as well.
🎄 Have a nice day and merry christmas good sir silver quil😉👏👏👍
Nothing about the glowy lights when they got their marks? How about four words. Cutie Mark Crusaders Alicorns. :D
It's been a while since you last posted an After the Fact video, but I''m glad to see the latest one from Season 5 on your channel, Silver Quill. Job well done. I hope the next one is uploaded in due time once you have everything together for it. I really want you to catch up with being two seasons behind as it is.
He'll keep the Griffins out of playground!
That montage at the end had me tearing up, man.
The CMCs sing running backwards; TALENTED!!!
8:30 I think Spoiled only used Blank Flanks as a way of covering her clear distaste for the CMC. Why?
Pipsqueak's a Blank Flank too, yet she seems to forget that due to his being from Trottingham
Autum Breeze so you’re saying she’s a capitalist
" if it's an musical, DUCK AND COVER BECAUSE IT'S ABOUT TO GO DOWN!!!!!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
silver quill: you try running backwards
me: I do, I also run forwards with my feet backwards, and backwards with feet facing opposite.
the montage of the CMC made me cry
I feel like the CMC getting their cutie marks should've been their own episodes
I feel like the best way to handle this story would have been as two separate episodes. Have one episode earlier in the season showing Diamond Tiara losing the election and Silver Spoon with the Crusaders extending the offer of friendship to her. Then have the follow up later in the season with Diamond Tiara making her choice and the Crusaders getting their marks.
I know you said in a previous ep that all three of them getting the same types of marks goes against individuality so im looking forward to seeing your follow up to it. ^^
The power of foresight has struck again!!!
Oddly, running backwards is the only time I'm coordinated
I ran for president for my school. It came down to a simple popularity contest.
I can't believe I missed this review, again, Top Notch Silver, keep it up my feathered friend
Wow! Thank you so much for featuring my art piece! It really means a lot to me!
On to other things: apparently you're a tank main XD. If you play Overwatch, i'd love to group up sometime!
This was One of the writers last episode before she went to work for disney
amasing episode as always well done
10:30 *"GET OVER HERE!!!"*
I love the overwatch nudge
10:31 That's so cool cause in an Overwatch version of the analysis anarchy I've been imagining, I have you as Roadhog.
SILVER-QUILL YOU ARE SO MEAN!! *cries* you made me cry again!!
Liked the Doctor Who referance. Great vid dude!
That’s more than fair I didn’t think about the cmc being family to three of the elements
Funny that this is now out, considering that I just rewatched the "Taking It Too Seriously" video for this episode not a few days ago. (Still won't deny though, that the first time I watched this-while in the long run, I may not have been HAPPY with their Cutie Marks-that this episode gave me MUCH Liquid Pride for the girls.)
This was definitely an episode most--if not ALL--of the fandom had been waiting for, and damn if it didn't disappoint! We finally got to see the end if an arc that the CMC had been stretching out since the very first season of the show, and through that, we also got to see the reformations of two recurring villains that have been around just as long. I'm not the biggest fan of musicals, but all in all, I can safely say that "Crusaders of the Lost Mark" (wonderful job on that Indiana Jones wordplay, DHX; well played) is by far one of my favorite episodes of the series.
Also, I have to commend Silver on his expert hook work there. But I do have a concern... Did you steal that hook straight from Roadhog himself, or is it a replica? 'Cuz if it's the real deal... I just hope him and Junkrat go easy on you.
I remember Kids Incorporated!
Another great episode, SQ!
The characters break into song because it's tradition in the franchise. It's just not in every episodes in Friendship Is Magic.
Kent Brockpony's cutie mark is an ant. Well played, Silver. Well played.
Children do not have the responceability to seek betterment out of what should be a parents job. ZERO responceability. Doesnt mean they didnt do it, but it DOES NOT mean you get to say she should have looked.
And child abuse or where parent chooses to leave or direct akid 100% has effect on said kid. No "may have had influence" at all, for a child their parents ARE their world and morals.
This....episode........Made Me Cry😭