Hiking in a Post-Line/Bridge/Airport Fire World
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- Here are all the trails and areas that are closed (for a long time) and alternative hikes.
Closure Map:
caltopo.com/m/...
(use export, copy to new map)
LA Times Trails Closed Article:
www.latimes.co...
Watch Duty:
app.watchduty.org
Airport Fire:
www.fs.usda.go...
Bridge Fire:
www.fs.usda.go...
Line Fire:
www.fs.usda.go...
San Jacinto Trail Reports:
sanjacjon.com/
Alternate Trails:
hikingguy.com/...
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In this video, I’m talking about the impact of the recent fires in Southern California-specifically the Line, Bridge, and Airport fires. These fires caused major closures across key hiking areas, with some trails expected to remain off-limits until 2025 and beyond. I go over what’s been shut down, using custom maps I created by layering the Forest Service’s PDF closure maps onto a CalTopo map. I also provide some alternative hikes that are still accessible if you're looking for options while these popular spots are out of reach.
One of the big closures is around San Gorgonio and Big Bear Lake due to the Line Fire. Although the area is closed until the end of November, the southern parts of San Bernardino National Forest, like Mt. San Jacinto, remain open. Then there’s the Bridge Fire, which hit areas near Mount Baldy and Wrightwood, and those closures are even more extensive, lasting until December 2025. I point out some other nearby hikes, like Crystal Lake and Mount Wilson, which can be solid alternatives while waiting for the closures to lift.
The Airport Fire, though smaller, also caused some significant closures in Cleveland National Forest. This area will be shut down for about a year. I’ve linked all the maps and information below the video for those who want to see exactly what's off-limits. It’s tough to see so much damage to areas we love, and recovery will be slow-some of these places might not fully recover in our lifetime. But I’ve put together some suggestions to keep you hiking in the meantime. Stay safe, and hopefully, we can avoid more fires in the future.
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What's your alternative hiking plan given the closures? List your faves so other hikers have some good choices. Still lots of good hiking out there that's open *so far
I'm close to Santa Monica Mountains, so did the Split Rock, Tri-Peaks, Sandstone Peak loop the other day. Got stung by bees, but had good hiking conditions otherwise. Trail to Balanced Rock looked a bit overgrown but saw lots of hikers there. Probably I'll go to Topanga today here in a few hours.
Head north
Anza Borrego this winter.
If you're looking for an easy hike, Placerita Canyon is not on fire. It's a bit of a drive up the 210 and then a moment on the 14, but it's nice.
Have done a couple San Jacinto area hikes and will, hopefully make it up to the Cottonwood Lakes area while the weather and conditions are still favorable.
Thank you for all the work you do to keep us informed!
Man, I was at the Ski Hut a week before the fire. The guy that runs the Ski Hut overnight hosting asked if I was gonna go to the top, and I was like, 'Nahh, not today, I'll come back in a few weeks as it's getting late.' Thought I was only a few miles from the top; now I'm 2 years from the top. I did see someone post on All Trails that they illegally hiked it and saw maybe 1/2 a dozen other illegal hikers on Baldy that day.
At least the Ski Hut trail didn't burn... You have 2 years to prepare for your summit to Mt Baldy!
@@markmcla Actually after doing O'Melveny Park's Grotto Trail so many times, with it's 4 or 5 super steep climbs, walking up to the ski hut with 12-15lbs in my pack wasn't hard. It just felt like a normal, leisurely hike. I know there's a steep section after you walk past the Baldy Bowl, but I'd say a person that hikes a few day per week should be able to do it. Plus I have more red blood cells than the average person, so I don't get altitude sickness. Take care!
Yea I can only imaging that non-hiker folks not in the know will be showing up at the Heaton parking lot and trying to do Bridge to Nowhere as well. Expect a mess I guess.
Marion Trail to Jacinto is closed late fall to late spring. You can still hike it you just gotta park in the road and walk to the trail head or take the longer trails again from the side of the road. But not advisable unless you know your way around in the snow.
I’m wondering what the PCT route will look like next year. Those poor hikers just can’t seem to catch a break.
Thinking the same thing. There's already so many burn areas the PCT runs through, now there's so many more miles of burn scar added to the trail.
Thinking the same thing. There's already so many burn areas the PCT runs through, now there's so many more miles of burn scar added to the trail.
Thanks for doing this Cris!
Last week the picnic area in Forest Falls was closed. That’s where the Big Falls and Vivian Creek trails begin. But the Momyer Creek trailhead was open. Seems strange since it’s further west. But just letting you know. It may have changed since then.
That's bad news indeed... It's more of a commitment, but the southern sierras might be the best alternative for the next month. Mt Langley is very nice. Also, the south loop at Mt Charleston near Las Vegas is open. -And like you said, Mt Wilson is a good local option in the winter. But this is sure disappointing... Mt Baldy is my go-to hike when I want a quick hike that feels like a mini vacation. At least the Ski Hut Trail didn't burn.
Yea great time for those options. Hoping to drive up to Vegas and bag Charleston before the snow hits. One of my faves and (I think) recently reopened on the lower slopes because of earlier fire damage.
@@Hikingguy I hiked the south loop in July. The north loop was closed. Hurricane Hillary in August of 2023 damaged some of the trails near Mt Charleston. Have a great trip! The aspens should be changing colors
FWIW most likely these closures will be adjusted as containment improves and damaged roads / infrastructure are repaired. The Vista Fire Closure Order originally had the entire Baldy Basin closed through 30 September but they ended up reopening it within a few weeks of containment. It's a lot easier to impose a broad, sweeping order and roll it back than the other way around.
Areas that actually burned will be closed for much longer which makes sense.
If you feel the closures are excessive and inappropriate the best resource you have is your state and federal elected representatives; it's an election year so they might even respond!
Excited to check it out - it's been a long time.
Every year the Forest Service goes more totalitarian. I live in Tustin. I mostly only really do 2 hikes - Modjeska Canyon and Black Star - Half hour drive or so. And they are closing the entire Northern Half of the Santa Anas - FOR OVER A YEAR?????.....the fire was MILES from there!!!!!
I completely agree! I am beyond livid about all of this. Just when things were reopening & regrowth was happening another STUPID HUMAN-caused fire happens burning everything & closing everything AGAIN!!! Of course they say 'one year' but every year they have a 'review' & keep the forest closed another year. & another year. & it turns into 5 years, i.e. the Holy Fire. Then they keep it closed because they need to do 'maintenance' because everything got overgrown because no one was allowed in. I've been hiking & running in these mountains for my health & wellbeing for 15 yrs. I moved to Modjeska in 2015 to be near everything. I am on these hills & trails ALL. THE. TIME. For more than half the time I've lived here I have been denied access to some large section of Forest or another due to STUPID HUMAN ACTIVITY. It's not our fault if the Forest isn't being managed properly to prevent these catastrophic events from happening. How many destructive fires have happened on your watch Darrell Vance??? & areas that were not burned should be open!...
No need for new idiots driving in and starting new fires while they've got their hands full... You live in CA, I'm sure you can find somewhere to visit 😁
@@d0onut So in other words, all mountainous areas should be closed in perpetuity. Got it.
Ran Angeles Crest 100 in early August starting in Wrightwood. First quarter of the course got burned, such an amazing part. Will be curious to see how they route the course next year. Maybe an out and back from Altadena. Ooof.
Thank you for your work in putting this together.
Seems like more and more outdoor recreational areas are conveniently closing down and soon enough we’ll have to be satisfied in our neighborhood parks or backyards.
Thank you for all the work gathering all the information to post it here for all of us. I appreciate you.
Thank you Cris very informative. So SAD that this happened.😢
Thanks for the updated information. What a bummer.
What is wrong with the CNF ranger? Closing trails that are not close at all.
Not that I want to defend their actions, but maybe it's just a knee-jerk reaction to allow them to evaluate things. Also probably because there was alot of emergency vehicle traffic on all the trails so they didn't want the hordes & masses to interfere with their response to the various areas where the fire was active...
Thanks for posting, Cris. That's a lot of work to put all that information together. If I'm interpreting Watch Duty correctly, the Ski Hut Trail and Devil's Backbone Trail areas did not get burned. What do you think the possibility is that the Forest Order gets ammended- to open up unburned areas- after the fires get completely contained and/or extinguished and things settle down?
That’s what happened with the Vista fire.
My gut tells me the FS is understaffed and probably looking forward to keeping as many trails human-free for as long as possible. It's not often that I've seen orders changed to open earlier, if anything, they're often extended. So unfortunately I'd probably make other plans.
Seems like this will massively increase traffic/use of the Icehouse Canyon trails. That parking lot was already pretty impossible...
Yea it's going to be a mess. Unless you really have a reason to go there, I'd probably try something else.
We had a couple bad fires up here in the southern Sierras too. I was under an evacuation warning for a couple weeks and some of the best hiking areas were closed for five weeks. Tough year..... so far!
Blackstar is open. Skyline is open. Coal canyon is open. Lots of riders and hikers on these trails over the weekend.
Technically some of those are in the closure area but I doubt they'd have the resources or desire to turn people away. ibb.co/H2dL5cy
Yes, more & more ppl are getting squeezed into less & less space, which causes overuse of those areas...
Heartbreaking . Thank you for your work.
Awesome update, much appreciated. Devastating for sure, I really enjoyed doing Baden Powell several times a year.
Thanks for posting this. It’s devastating for us especially near the Airport Fire and Lake Elsinore.
We’ll still be getting out and exploring as much as we can 🙏🏻
Ooof boy we got clobbered. Thanks for this info. San Jacinto gonna be buuuuuusy! Next spring I’ll try to explore the Palomar Mtn area more, it’s gorgeous there. We coming for you SD county!!
thank you for the maps. Very helpful!
I tried going to Bradford ridge (deep creek hot springs) Friday morning and found CA 173 was
closed just before getting there
In 2022, I backpacked 75 miles around Big Bear Lake (not on the PCT but near it). Sorry to see this happening!! Thanks so much for the update. 😔
I grew up there, as a Boy Scout, Old Baldy Council. This was our backyard adventure area. Circle B Scout Ranch (Inyokern) burned long ago. So much lost.
I hiked the Baden-Powell trail for the first time a couple of months ago. It was beautiful and an amazing experience. I'll cherish that memory forever. Take nothing for granted.
had to double take it really said 12/31/25. so much lost in socal this season. curious if anyone will hike the pct next year
Thank you for providing this info
I hiked Baldy last weekend and the mountain was totally untouched. Lots of families at the base of the trail and other hikers on the trail.
So many places were loat due to these fires. I have a feeling that some areas there were not effected but still under the closures will open sooner then later.
Thanks a lot for this information. For those of us who hike and trail run on a frequent basis this is very helpful.
Thank you for this information! Such a bummer, so many beautiful local trails.
Thank you for such detailed information. This has been so heartbreaking.
Thank you for the valuable information! It is so sad but hope for the best
Wow. What a total bummer. Thanks for putting this together
so bummed on this...
Thank you for posting this and for all of the work you did on this. My review of the closure map posted online was that Blackstar Canyon road/trail was not closed; however, the work you did here shows that it is within the closure area. I went by the trailhead yesterday and it appeared to have a relatively normal amount of people parked near the gate (which is a lot). I also saw online that people were on the trails according to Strava. There was a sign at the top of dump hill stating "all forest trails closed" but there were no closure signs at the Blackstar trailhead nor any rangers / law enforcement posted. I do understand why they would close Maple/Harding/Indian Truck Trail, etc. as those all lead to the Peak, which was burned. I imagine those areas will unfortunately be closed for some time. But I don't understand why it would be necessary to close Blackstar, Coal or Skyline. It would make sense to have a sign posted at the gate at the top of Blackstar stating that Main Divide was closed, but not the trails leading up to main divide that were miles from the fire. Hopefully the heat this week will not cause the Airport fire to surge like the Line Fire did yesterday. Perhaps that was part of the reason.
It has been difficult seeing the 3 fires burning, knowing how much is being lost. But I recalled the time I rode my bike through Santiago Canyon after the fire that swept through there a few years ago. It was devastating and looked like something out of a war movie. But driving through Santiago Canyon yesterday, it was as pleasant as ever and hard to find evidence of the fire that devastated it not long ago. Hopefully the same will be true of the burn areas.
Thanks for posting that, really appreciate it.
Any recommendations for backpacks for carrying around an elderly 20lb poodle who still loves hikes but needs to be carried most of the time now?
Also, I just wanted to say thank you for doing what you do. My partner and I are avid hikers and when we were starting out two years ago, your videos helped us get started and choose hikes of the right difficulties. You're brilliant and we get excited when your videos come out to this day.
@@stolenrelic K9 Sport Sack are the best and would be perfect for your size dog
Thank you and I'd go with @vicodan - K9 Sport Sack
Wrightwood highway 2 drive is closed at cardinal.
Unless things have changed, Sturtevant Falls, and that area that has been closed for four years after the Bobcat Fire will be opening up in a couple of days.
Hoping to get up there soon
Awesome work
Thank you for the update. This sucks.
Oh wow, that’s terrible. Thanks for the updates. Anyone know if the UTMB Kodiak races in Big Bear can proceed in two week? The fire didn’t touch the course but that is obviously coming up sooner than Nov 30th!
Good question, I don't know. If you find out, please post it here and I'll pin the comment for others.
Thank you for this update, heartbreaking as it is. I really appreciate you, and all of your hard work. Please keep it up.
Big thank you, appreciate it
So very sad. Thanks for your great work.
This was a super excellent video! You just answered what I've been wondering about this past week, what hiking trails have been burned by these three fires and which zones are currently closed to hiking and for how long. You have excellent computer skills to produce these very useful maps! Thank you so much!
Thank you appreciate it!
This makes me so so so sad, to think so many of these areas I’ve grown up hiking/fishing will never be the same in my lifetime ….. thank you for the extensive explanatiom
I used to work where they educated firefighters. About 10 or 15 years ago, a "high up" from Cal Fire said that they expected that there would be no more big trees. When you look at the area he was talking about, it was exactly the Bridge, Line, Apple, and El Dorado fires, and from what he said, they expect to lose it all. But it's clear the Fire Department's predictions are coming true.
Appreciate your work here Brother
The western end of the Bridge fire area is right below where I live. Looks like the easy, short drive to good, fun trails is over for a few years. I’m used to the foothills burning up every few years but this was crazy. Thanks for keeping us all informed.
Oh man that must be tough. The Airport Fire closure were my locals - about 20 minutes and the place where I tested most gear. At least we have options in SoCal if we're willing to drive a bit. Overall devastating.
Thank you , appreciate you
Thank you for this ❤
Is there a chance these dates move up? The Vista fire originally had Baldy closed for longer than it actually was.
Always a chance. I've also seen closure orders get extended, so hard to say.
Do you think they will have alternates around this for the PCT by Spring?
I'd imagine they'll have something worked out. Maybe along the road.
How truly devastating 😔
The Line fire broke containment lines yesterday and is heading East
Ugh
Chantry Flat is opening next week after the four year Bobcat fire closure.
Excited to check it out - it's been a long time.
That’s a bummer. I’ve been looking forward to hiking Santiago Peak via Holy Jim trail. I know that trail has been closed for years until recently.
That poor trail is perpetually closed. Even after the last Holy Fire, they'd wait until the last day or the order and then extend it for a year. I heard all the cabins burned too.
@@Hikingguy I heard from a canyon resident that maybe six cabins survived including the Jim Sleeper cabin. It's a small consolation, but I'm glad it's still there. From what I've gathered, current NF rules will prevent burned cabins from being rebuilt. Fortunately I also heard the Big Cone Douglas Fir forest in Trabuco didn't suffer further extensive damage in the areas not destroyed by the Holy Fire. I'm on the hunt for good news because this is heartbreaking.
I was lucky to make a trip right after the trail reopened last year. The shady region and waterfall below the Main Divide was absolutely scorched, but the trail was otherwise ok. West Horsethief remained closed and seems unlikely to reopen.
@@ericplunkett2858 That's good news, big thank you for the update.
Thank you Cris. Did they ever find the cause of the Bridge Fire? They did on the other two.
Not as far as I know - will keep you posted if I hear anything.
Thank you for the update. 😢
Wow so heartbreaking 😭
Thank you for summarizing all the fire closure information and providing the Caltopo map...super helpful! (And of course, thank you for all your awesome hiking guides too!)
WHOAAOAOAOAOAO - massive thank you for the support - can't tell you enough how much I appreciate it - been turning down some big sponsored posts to keep it all real and this helps a ton
@@Hikingguy You're very welcome! It's the least I can do for all the time you take doing the recon, research, mapping, videos, write-ups, etc. to provide helpful and accurate information all in one spot! 🥾 ❤
Thanks for the information!
bridge breaks my heart!~!!
What a bummer, I was planning to hike and make a video about the Bear Canyon Trail to Baldy 😢
I had just hiked it 2 weeks before the fire, was going to do the same in early Oct. Such a sad state of affairs.
Any reason given for what seems to me, overly aggressive closures?
Not "aggressive" Every year they get more and more DESPOTIC. NFS would prefer NO ONE visit NFS lands. People are a headache to them. A nuisance. NFS has a new slogan, adapting from Woody Guthrie: "THIS LAND IS OUR LAND, THIS LAND IS OUR LAND......."
@@jimmydee1130Good one😊.
Overall trail stability has been compromised is my guess.
@@yogalandawellnessyolandati7654 15 miles from the flames. Got it.
forest service got a stick up their behind. all they do is lock gates for roads while firefighters do the dirty work and they act like theyre heroes
This is heartbreaking.
I was in Silverado Canyon Sept. 29th 6am trying to hike Bedford peak but there was a security guard and armed law enforcement at the Maple Springs Trailhead gate.
There's 24 hr security detail at the Harding TT gate also. Ridiculous....
Thanks for the report
Thank ya' sir for the update. South Ridge Trailhead to Tahquitz Peak and Devil's Slide are both nice trails. South Ridge overlooks some older burn-scarred area for a while, but still has incredible views. Deer Springs out to Suicide Rock is also a nice trail. Not as many far-reaching views as the other two, but a lot of shade, and when you do reach viewpoints, they're beautiful.
Be aware that Devil's Slide required permits that were limited (hence we missed out).
@mls01981 I'm sorry you missed out. Those restrictions were supposed to be Sat & Sun from Memorial Day to Labor Day. If you haven't been on that trail before, try again to get there; it's worth it. If you can, go on a weekday, even if you have to go in the afternoon. I encountered less than two dozen people by going on a Tuesday afternoon in Sept. Had the trail to myself on the return trip. Cheers!
Major bummer!! Thank for bringing us the bad news too.
changing the channel name to "badnewsguy"
@@Hikingguy 🤣😭🤣
Any updates on how the Bridge fire started?
Nothing yet - will keep you posted in the news video when I hear anything.
Any insight on why all of the Santa Anas is going to be closed? I regularly hike in that range and I can’t lie Im very disappointed with the way they are handling the situation. OC Public Works started the fire and is now punishing us for it by shutting down the rest of the Santa Anas for a whole year. All around just a very sad and upsetting situation.
You can access anything north of Bedford. Skyline, Blackstar, Sierra Peak. Also Santiago Truck Trail is not a hard closure, just be aware of fire & maintenance vehicles...
I don't have any additional info and as you can see, people are using the trails that are in the official closure. Hard to see them enforcing such a big closure but it might have impacts (like a ticket) if you had to be rescued or something from the area.
Wow I hiked up to the big horn mine the week before the bridge fire. I'm glad I got to see it before the closure.
Big Horn mine burned 😢 but a hot shot crew saved Vincent’s cabin.
@@MelissaAdair-z2b what?!! Man I'm glad I got to see it.
I'm hiking PCT NoBo. Noticed Hwy 2 near Little Jimmy Campground is traversed multiple times by the fire line closure demarcation. I wondered if the highway itself is open?
@@HuangXingQing Hey I’m planing to do a NoBo hike soon as well do you know how much trail was destroyed during the Fires?
@@MrBrixey-s6j The PCTA Trail Closure page shows the mile points where the Bridge and Line fire affected the trail. Cedar Springs is near the western edge of the Bridge fire closure on the PCT and those two fire closures are contiguous. I don't see a route to hike beyond Whitewater near I-10 so essentially I-10 to Cedar Springs are the limits I see.
@@HuangXingQing Thanks for the info, enjoy your hike wherever you are now!
Good job!
I gps to crystal lake and beginning part of 39 around the reservoirs is closed. Gps says to take a 2 hour forestry road detour to reconnect to the 39. Not sure about all that
Did Big Horn Mine survive?
In the LA Times article I believe they said it got hit - not sure of the impact
New local volunteer SAR member here, with friends/connections at OCFA, USFS, and on neighboring SAR teams in San Bernardino County. I've seen people post about illegally hiking areas that are closed to the public. PLEASE do not do this (or condone others doing it). One of my best friends is on a fire crew that was deployed to the Airport Fire. Members of the SAR team I'm on were directly involved with evacuation efforts there, and then later searches within the burn areas. My friends on a San Bernardino SAR team had to do the same for the Line Fire within THEIR OWN HOMETOWN, as their neighbors were all evacuating. There's a reason these areas are off limits. These fires have put an incomprehensible strain on our state's wildfire resources, and people putting themselves in dangerous situations is the last thing first responders and emergency personnel need right now.
were these caused by people being careless?
The Line fire was arson. The Airport fire was a construction crew. I don't know what started the Bridge fire.
STUPID HUMAN ACTIVITY
Curious what the reasoning is to close these areas for one year.
Great video and info with maps. Sad to see so much uncessarry trails being closed..
Is the closure really until the end of 2025? I live in New Mexico, and often during fire recovery there are closures issued that automatically expire after a very long time, but in reality the closure expires much sooner when the minimum of recovery required to reopen is performed and it is rescinded. Hopefully that's the case, and it won't be so bad for you SoCal people.
Hard to say - there have been plenty of them in our area that go the distance and even get extended some times. Fingers crossed that you are right on this one.
what do you think the chances Blackstar and Skyline will reopen? I can imagine Forest Service sitting on trail systems that are not impacted.
I was wondering the same. I sent an email to the ranger a few days ago and no response!
I am hopeful they will reopen some areas, but the iffy part is that many trails ultimately reach the Main Divide and Santiago/Modjeska Peaks, which burned. Coal Cyn/Blackstar/Skyline seem like the most likely to open within the NW region of the Santa Anas and Sitton Peak/Tenaja/Santa Rosa Plateau seem like the most likely to open in the SE region.
@@mls01981 According to my wife BS is still open with OC Parks doing an event there yesterday.
Wish I knew. Hoping the northern half opens, it's my local stomping ground.
Blackstar & Skyline are open...
@@catb4918 Just want to throw it out there that the area on the closure map is officially closed, even if people are on those trails. If you want to know exactly what the USFS says is off limits, use the map.
Why does that the closure have to be that long?
Thanks much for the updates. Went to Harding Truck Trailhead this morning just to see things for myself.
What is the purpose of keeping so much land closed for so long?
My guess is to prevent more fires and avoid any resource drain if they need to deal with a rescue, etc. - not always logical - upper Holy Jim was closed for about 2 years after it was repaired and hikable - hoping they ease this closure up a bit
So management by closure.
Do you know if Cucamonga Peak hike is in the closure?
It is my understanding that the 3 T's/Cucamonga/Ontario are open and this video supports that as well. The main issue is limited parking in Icehouse Canyon. Another option is to do 3 T's starting from Manker Flats, which has way more parking, but is a longer trek.
@@mls01981 watching the video again it shows Cucamonga peak inside the closure area so I’m gonna guess that is closed as well.
Looking at the closure order and the peak is specifically mentioned - looks like you can hike up to the saddle - www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/fseprd1203859.pdf
@@Hikingguy Thanks
@@MtnJnkyOutdoors thanks for the correction!!! Glad I didn’t make the trek up there!!!
Breathing near closed areas might be hard without a very good mask.
Breathing with a mask is hard
@@stevesmith756 Yes but the alternative is harder. COPD taught me that.
Anyone know any 10,000 ft peaks NOT closed?
Mount San jacinto is the only other one via deer springs or Marion mountain or the tram if it's open
Jacinto
I’ve hiked bellview multiple times after the airport fire, no one has said anything to me. I’m planning on doing Los Pinos peak here pretty soon aswell.
I'm not your parent, but that's definitely against the closure order by the Forest Service. I'm pretty sure you would be fined if caught.
@@mls01981 My second time over, I actually passed by a hotshot captain watching his crew. Didnt tell me to leave or anything about how I couldnt be out there. They've practically left the entire area by now.
Good Luck. That whole area burned. Read the closure order...
O.C. Public Works burned down Santiago. Mammoth Lakes chief of police put the order in to kill Victor the bear. Both parties are still on the payroll. WTF!
Just stay off the actual trail while hiking and you'll be OK!
NFS, so i get the National and Socialist letters. What does the F stand for?
Thanks for the info...now my 2 cents. The closures are way too aggressive. Time for us to vote for "Free to Roam" in public lands of the USA. What business does the Forest Service have on cutting into our civil liberties? A better stance for the FS to take would be "you're free to enter...but at your own risk. You're responsible for your own safety." I value freedom.
I see it slightly differently. Our public lands have been damaged and our tax dollars are being used to make it accessible again. Our upcoming rains are going to wreak havoc on the trails affected by fire, with inevitable mudslides and trail damage. I want the trails open as much as you do, but some remediation will be needed before we can access the areas.
I agree the closures are too aggressive, but there is a good chance that some additional areas will reopen once the fires are actually extinguished. Currently they are "contained" which still means burning, sadly.
With regard to your last point, EMS is a public service and there is no way to allow "enter at your own risk" stipulationos to the burn area. The lawyers would love nothing more to sue the County.
Why can't our apparently DEI infested Fire Departments put out a fire anymore??
Their priorities seem to have shifted from "Let's GOOOOOOO!! Let's SLAUGHTER this fire!!" to: "Job 1 is making sure not one Fire Person gets one itty bitty scratch on them!" "It's too risky to get aggressive with this fire."
Americans are getting softer and softer, weaker and weaker with every passing year. They’re enraptured with fear… while being inundated in fear porn. The trend I’ve watched for decades now.
NOOOOOOOO NOT PEDO TRAILS
Another year, another fire that keeps Gorgonio out of my reach 🥲