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I'm really hoping Shallan will join the world hopping people soon! She would be the most likely too given she has a (minor spoiler ahead) Seon now and knows the truth about the Ghost Bloods. God I hope she becomes a Rosharan world hopper ❤️
I read White Sand before I read most of Mistborn and Stormlight and I’m very glad I did. It was nice to know Khriss as a cute dorky scientist duchess before I knew of her as the cool Cosmere researcher most people first met her as. P.S.: I know White Sand has a reputation among some fans, but I really loved the Graphic Audio version of it! If you weren’t crazy about the comic, it’s definitely worth a listen!
I started reading stormlight again after reading a few novels. And then I heard "Let's destroy some evil" and I was looking at this sentence for a while thinking something ain't right. And then I googled it. So now I'm here searching for cosmere explained lol
I suppose you covered it when you mention the 17th shard, but I think Demoux deserves a special mention since he's a semi-prominent solo character throughout Mistborn who then later joins the 17th shard for unknown reasons, more than likely with the help of Harmony since he's _most likely_ being fed atium in one form or another through this avenue.
You mentioned that we do not know where Vasher and Vivienna are on Roshar, but we definitely do. Vivienna is in Shadsmar looking for vain for Nightblood that's given to Szeth, and Vasher calls himself Zahel and is the sword master that is among the Ardents in the Kholin war camp and later in Urithiru
Along with the creation of the Cosmere itself, the inclusion of world, hoppers was absolutely brilliant and probably like most people here.Brandon quickly moved to the top of my favorite fantasy author list.
I’d be interested to see some deeper spoiler filled (clearly labeled, of course) dives into some of these subjects. At some point. I know you got a lot on your proverbial UA-cam plate.
Yeah, this video ends up like a list of the organizations and individuals name, but without even a description of those and with most of their known goals obscured, I feel like this video is more frustrating than useful for new or seasoned readers. If TW.Raven wants to make another worldhopper guide in the future, may I suggest mentioning the list of stories where each given organization or character appears and a physical description as well. I also feel like you needn't be quite so squimish about spoilers either, since, for instance, knowing that the ghostbloods are worldhoppers is already a bit of a spoiler in itself, and generally the subject of worldhopper is inherently spoilery anyway, so I think it's fine to dwelve deeper, with the proper warnings at least.
@@maximeteppe7627 - I don’t know about all that. While I can agree that it’s a bit light on information, wasn’t that the point of this video? Truly a non spoilery introduction to the subject. Just enough to help keep an eye out for these particular names without weakening the fun of piecing the puzzle together. But also yeah, I too would like to see a deeper dive with all of the who what when where and why’s that can be fit in. The Cosmere is a big place, and we’ve got time.
@@joshhoehne8281 Of course, but I think that even as an introduction it falls short. I'd prefer a format where a character of faction is introduced, with identifying features described to help recognize them whenever we cross there paths. then the works where they appear as cameo could be listed. And finally the work where backgrounds and motives are most clearly explored is named. Even without spoilers it could be a better way to provide a guide to track down and understand world hoppers. As it stands the video ends up being a list of names, without providing much information about which books to find them in, and with mostly lacking or even deceiving information about their motives - and their planets of origin, which half the time don't appear in their respective novels, even less on their covers.
@@maximeteppe7627 - Gotta admit, what you’re describing does sound rather nice. Especially the “identifying features to help recognize them whenever we cross (their) paths” bit. Just imagining the extra thrills I could have gotten the first time reading through the Cosmere and being able to pick out all of the Worldhoppers as we’re introduced to them, even without knowing all of their story at that point. I’m smiling now. Overall I see your points, and mostly agree. But I still think this video was fine for what I believe it was trying to be plus its short run time. I’d like to see the format expand in the direction of a short and simple primer like this one is, with a second “intermediate”, longer dive not long after. Like the next day or so. Possibly even film them both at the same time, then it’s “just” editing. Then if interest is high enough, a full on spoiler and theory filled episode.
Hmm. We have the constellation map for seeing the worlds, but what is the perspective of that star map? Where is looking up in the sky and mapping that labeling each of the world's?
I don't think they're simply planets away. In the Cosmere and in Kriss notes it's mentioned it's much larger than our solar system, since each of these planets has their own planets, moons, and suns that aren't visible to other planets. That stands to reason they are _quite_ far apart though somewhere together in the same galaxy.
Which book is the info on Silverlight and Khriss from? I believe that the Ire was from Mistborn: A Secret History but can't remember Silverlight. Also, which organisation is the map maker Nazh in?
Khriss first introduced in White sand graphics novel, it's easy to read just 3 volumes, but if you don't like graphic novels, then you can listen to their graphic audiobook, It's awesome to hear.
The Ire is not from Mistborn/Scadrial. They do have a stronghold in the Cognitive Realm in Scadrial, though they are not originally from there. They're as he mentions from Sel and are ancient Elantrians that left Sel long before the Reod happened.
Pretty good actually! I'm on Shadows of Self and kinda contemplating just jumping into Bands right after I'm done (which I normally wouldn't do). We'll see how I feel when I finish it :)
Just like the video that covered the spiritual realm, I have no idea where you got half of this information! It's been a while since I read Mistborn: Secret History, one of the major stories dealing with worldhopping, but I don't remember anything about Silverlight.
@@iveybullard8988 A lot of information comes from offhand references, WOBs, obscure mentions in books, etc. I also get a ton of my information from the official wiki and the 17th Shard's podcast and fansite. Basically just a lot of digging around and you'll find most of what you're looking for XD
It may be English semantics but I wouldn’t say we know they’re a primarily Roshar organization just that we’ve seen them the most there. It’s obvious they’re on many worlds from the kinds of investiture they possess.
I think the ghostbloods segemnt needs to be updated. Now we know their primary purpose is to protect scadrial and they are led by kelsier and the rosharan branch seems to be a loose cannon
All? Sir, even as of the making of this video that was barely a tenth of the known world hoppers. There were more than twice this many worldhoppers that showed up in just the first stormlight archive book.
Nice man. Same here. Great video! I'm reading warbreaker now and it's amazing. I've also read the first 3 SLA books. Is there anyone other books to read as well before rereading SLA to catch these world hoppers?
Lol your name gave it away XD I'd say you definitely want to read the first Mistborn Trilogy (and Mistborn: Secret History) before Rhythm of War. And if you can, Elantris too. In fact, while not 100% required, being fully caught up on the Cosmere before RoW makes it an amazing read because of how Cosmere heavy that book is
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When I realized a certain person was in each book it blew my mind and I immediately googled some answers, spoilers be damned
You're brave. I hate spoilers XD
Ah I love that character. So smart and ...wit-ty.
Hoid'd you do that?
How did that Felt?
technically nightblood is also a worldhopper
lol good point
I'm really hoping Shallan will join the world hopping people soon! She would be the most likely too given she has a (minor spoiler ahead) Seon now and knows the truth about the Ghost Bloods. God I hope she becomes a Rosharan world hopper ❤️
I'm pretty sure she will
Perhaps traveling with Jasnah. Transported kinda makes it easy
When did shallan get a seon?
@@badusernam did you read Rhythm of War? If not well, I did warn about spoilers lol.
@@dunnejos8423 i did but i just remembered the box so nvm. Read row before elantris so i ddnt reguster that it was a seon.
Reading the cosmere when you don’t know about worldhoppers and realmatic theory: huh
When you do: HUH
Lol the Cosmere is such a multi-layered read
I read White Sand before I read most of Mistborn and Stormlight and I’m very glad I did. It was nice to know Khriss as a cute dorky scientist duchess before I knew of her as the cool Cosmere researcher most people first met her as.
P.S.: I know White Sand has a reputation among some fans, but I really loved the Graphic Audio version of it! If you weren’t crazy about the comic, it’s definitely worth a listen!
Thank you White sand is my next destination now, i haven't heard of her in stormlights tho
I started reading stormlight again after reading a few novels. And then I heard "Let's destroy some evil" and I was looking at this sentence for a while thinking something ain't right. And then I googled it. So now I'm here searching for cosmere explained lol
I suppose you covered it when you mention the 17th shard, but I think Demoux deserves a special mention since he's a semi-prominent solo character throughout Mistborn who then later joins the 17th shard for unknown reasons, more than likely with the help of Harmony since he's _most likely_ being fed atium in one form or another through this avenue.
You mentioned that we do not know where Vasher and Vivienna are on Roshar, but we definitely do. Vivienna is in Shadsmar looking for vain for Nightblood that's given to Szeth, and Vasher calls himself Zahel and is the sword master that is among the Ardents in the Kholin war camp and later in Urithiru
Along with the creation of the Cosmere itself, the inclusion of world, hoppers was absolutely brilliant and probably like most people here.Brandon quickly moved to the top of my favorite fantasy author list.
I am astounded every single time at your sub count. you are going to BLOW up
Sigzil is also an independent worldhopper (Wit's apprentice in/before stormlight archive) :_)
My guy missed Demoux, and Galladon (they showed up on roshar in the pure lakes)
They're part of the 17th Shard. Thought it would be a bit redundant to mention the same people twice :P
@@RavensRants are they? I might need a reread because I completely forgot this fact 🤣
@@adeyemioyemade1631 yeah they are the people that ask about hoid in the pure lake the descriptions fit
@@RavensRantsthat's not mentioning the same people twice, people and organisations are a different thing.
I’d be interested to see some deeper spoiler filled (clearly labeled, of course) dives into some of these subjects. At some point. I know you got a lot on your proverbial UA-cam plate.
Eventually for sure :)
Yeah, this video ends up like a list of the organizations and individuals name, but without even a description of those and with most of their known goals obscured, I feel like this video is more frustrating than useful for new or seasoned readers.
If TW.Raven wants to make another worldhopper guide in the future, may I suggest mentioning the list of stories where each given organization or character appears and a physical description as well. I also feel like you needn't be quite so squimish about spoilers either, since, for instance, knowing that the ghostbloods are worldhoppers is already a bit of a spoiler in itself, and generally the subject of worldhopper is inherently spoilery anyway, so I think it's fine to dwelve deeper, with the proper warnings at least.
@@maximeteppe7627 - I don’t know about all that. While I can agree that it’s a bit light on information, wasn’t that the point of this video? Truly a non spoilery introduction to the subject. Just enough to help keep an eye out for these particular names without weakening the fun of piecing the puzzle together.
But also yeah, I too would like to see a deeper dive with all of the who what when where and why’s that can be fit in. The Cosmere is a big place, and we’ve got time.
@@joshhoehne8281 Of course, but I think that even as an introduction it falls short.
I'd prefer a format where a character of faction is introduced, with identifying features described to help recognize them whenever we cross there paths.
then the works where they appear as cameo could be listed. And finally the work where backgrounds and motives are most clearly explored is named.
Even without spoilers it could be a better way to provide a guide to track down and understand world hoppers.
As it stands the video ends up being a list of names, without providing much information about which books to find them in, and with mostly lacking or even deceiving information about their motives - and their planets of origin, which half the time don't appear in their respective novels, even less on their covers.
@@maximeteppe7627 - Gotta admit, what you’re describing does sound rather nice. Especially the “identifying features to help recognize them whenever we cross (their) paths” bit. Just imagining the extra thrills I could have gotten the first time reading through the Cosmere and being able to pick out all of the Worldhoppers as we’re introduced to them, even without knowing all of their story at that point. I’m smiling now.
Overall I see your points, and mostly agree. But I still think this video was fine for what I believe it was trying to be plus its short run time. I’d like to see the format expand in the direction of a short and simple primer like this one is, with a second “intermediate”, longer dive not long after. Like the next day or so. Possibly even film them both at the same time, then it’s “just” editing. Then if interest is high enough, a full on spoiler and theory filled episode.
Thanks for breaking that down.
Want to avoid spoikers in a worldhoper video? What a lad
Lol I try to avoid spoilers wherever possible
@@RavensRants and its great xD it just made laugh until i read one of the heart comments
Kinda killed the video. Just talk to us my man.
Hmm. We have the constellation map for seeing the worlds, but what is the perspective of that star map? Where is looking up in the sky and mapping that labeling each of the world's?
I don't think they're simply planets away. In the Cosmere and in Kriss notes it's mentioned it's much larger than our solar system, since each of these planets has their own planets, moons, and suns that aren't visible to other planets. That stands to reason they are _quite_ far apart though somewhere together in the same galaxy.
What about Azure in Oathbringer?
I'm sure I mentioned Vivenna in the video
@@RavensRants It might help to mention their aliases as well. I was confused as well and had to look it up.
She's was mentioned, she first appeared in Warbreaker
Which book is the info on Silverlight and Khriss from? I believe that the Ire was from Mistborn: A Secret History but can't remember Silverlight. Also, which organisation is the map maker Nazh in?
It's in Arcanum Unbounded. And Nazh is an assistant to Khriss
Nazh is from Threnody I believe
Khriss first introduced in White sand graphics novel, it's easy to read just 3 volumes, but if you don't like graphic novels, then you can listen to their graphic audiobook, It's awesome to hear.
The Ire is not from Mistborn/Scadrial. They do have a stronghold in the Cognitive Realm in Scadrial, though they are not originally from there. They're as he mentions from Sel and are ancient Elantrians that left Sel long before the Reod happened.
Thanks again for the video Raven! I finished Bands of Mourning the other day. How is your era 2 read going?
Pretty good actually! I'm on Shadows of Self and kinda contemplating just jumping into Bands right after I'm done (which I normally wouldn't do). We'll see how I feel when I finish it :)
@@RavensRants Thats what i did and i have no regrets! I try to switch up what i read so i dont get burned out.
Apparently we do know where Vivienne and Asher went. They are in roshar and are very much in the story is you know what to look for ;)
Storm it I was just about to go to sleep and then I found your channel. Rust and ruin
Lol 😂
Just like the video that covered the spiritual realm, I have no idea where you got half of this information! It's been a while since I read Mistborn: Secret History, one of the major stories dealing with worldhopping, but I don't remember anything about Silverlight.
Silverlight is mostly mentioned in Arcanum Unbounded and potentially a few offhand references here and there :)
I had no clue where all the info came from either. I figured it came from a WoB or the short stories.
@@iveybullard8988 A lot of information comes from offhand references, WOBs, obscure mentions in books, etc. I also get a ton of my information from the official wiki and the 17th Shard's podcast and fansite. Basically just a lot of digging around and you'll find most of what you're looking for XD
It may be English semantics but I wouldn’t say we know they’re a primarily Roshar organization just that we’ve seen them the most there. It’s obvious they’re on many worlds from the kinds of investiture they possess.
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Which book(s) is Chris in?
She’s a main character in White Sand!
She also makes an cameo in one of the Era 2 Mistborn books.
Its weird to think about how all 3 dead members of the 5 scholars where all killed by Vasher
And seeing as Yesteel was teased as a villian for the sequel, he might go 4 for 4
Request: link the videos mentioned in the description?
Now do it again with spoilers.
I think the ghostbloods segemnt needs to be updated. Now we know their primary purpose is to protect scadrial and they are led by kelsier and the rosharan branch seems to be a loose cannon
This is going to need an update
Hrm, out of date. The Ghostbloods are primarily Scadrian, though they do operate heavily on Roshar.
Also, we know exactly where Vasher is.
Shortform is optimal for quick reference vids.👍
Nice
Lol thanks :)
POV the seventeen shard, GET HOID
What about Wit?
Hoid
@@Hunni125 missed that one in audiobook lol
1:35 NSFV Picture 🖐
Not Safe For Veil?
And here I thought I was the only South African that's heard of this series
We do know where Vasher is, though.
We don't know exactly where on Roshar
@@RavensRants isnt vasher sahel? he is on roshar teaching swordsmen ship to the kolins
Yep. He’s Zahel and we learn his location and a bunch about him in Rhythm of War during his conversation with Kal.
All? Sir, even as of the making of this video that was barely a tenth of the known world hoppers. There were more than twice this many worldhoppers that showed up in just the first stormlight archive book.
Who the hell is Felt 😅 I need to re read mistborn
Thaidakar is Kelsier
South African?
Indeed 😉
Nice man. Same here.
Great video!
I'm reading warbreaker now and it's amazing. I've also read the first 3 SLA books. Is there anyone other books to read as well before rereading SLA to catch these world hoppers?
Lol your name gave it away XD
I'd say you definitely want to read the first Mistborn Trilogy (and Mistborn: Secret History) before Rhythm of War. And if you can, Elantris too. In fact, while not 100% required, being fully caught up on the Cosmere before RoW makes it an amazing read because of how Cosmere heavy that book is
@@RavensRants awesome! Thanks for the hot tip!
Exactly what I was about to ask...automatic subscribe...
Wow this is very outdated
LOST METAL SPOILERS AHEAD
Thaidakar is Kelsier. The Ghostbloods are primarily dedicated to protecting Scadrial at any cost.
That's how time works yes