I know the feeling. They did the same to my order. 5 cards in same sleeve. It's not like the sleeves are expensive. I mean, they're penny sleeves after all.
Dang, that's honestly disgusting. I recently got a PSA 9 Holo Neo Ursaring the other day for £35. And you paid around thay for that Gengar? This isn't acceptable. They really shouldn't sell cards like this.
In the past I accidentally bought some fake Yu-Gi-Oh booster packs from Troll & Toad. I found out they were fake because the crimps were jagged instead of straight, and ever since then I swore to never do business with Troll & Toad again.
Yeah I purchased over $300 "Near Mint" 3:32 from Troll & Toad a couple years back, my Shiny cards from D&P had loads of surface scratches on the mirror foil
When I got back into collecting a few years ago, I almost immediately learned to avoid Troll and Toad like the plague. Sadly, this just confirms what I have seen for a long time now.
@PokeRev thank you for your time making this video and the knowledge about the site. While the next guys order might be different….. I know not to take the risk of getting any singles from them for sure and from my own purchase I know that I will not be taking the risk of purchasing anything again from them. Super unfortunate for me and for them because it is business regardless of how much I spent right 🤷🏻♂️ anyway yeah thank you very much for taking the time out of your day to and the money out of your pockets to place the order and take the risk for the rest of the people out there that might be thinking of ordering! And most of all thank you very much for another awesome quality and informative video! Great hanging out and watching your video it definitely keeps me entertained every day on my lunch break and just my breaks. I’m a grunt worker/laborer I do just about anything and everything inside and out of a house from start to finish and maintenance thereafter. I also do various odd jobs like drywall and painting and lawn work like landscaping and even snow removal in the winter. So getting to sit down and relax on my breaks for just a few minutes and get the day’s video in is a real treat for me! Been wanting to say so in the comments for a while but I had always been a lurker non subscriber (I just never subbed to anyone until recently) but anyway I’m rambling as always 🙏 greatly appreciated my man please keep the videos coming! ✌️
I laughed OUT LOUD during this video bruh! The way he describes these cards and talks about them with the boogers and sauces and stuff had me rollin 😂. I like these type videos. They have a little bit of everything.
I never buy cards from sellers who don't post high-quality photos of the front and back from multiple angles. Near Mint means nothing. We are not graders, and as this video shows, people are scammy and take advantage of the terminology to sell garbage played cards.
Oh wow, so the troll webside, does troll people? 😅 I have to say, i never in my life saw the "Fireworks" holo effect, and thanks to you i have a new holy grail! That card was so beautiful!! ❤
Yeah people seem to think lightly played and even moderately played cards are all near mint when ungraded. I only make orders with photos for that reason.
The time of buying mint cards from troll and toad is over. I was buying a bunch pre 2018 and it was mostly just from the market being less efficient as it is now. People had to sell their collections to stores like Troll for next to nothing cause it was hard to even find buyers. Collectors buying from the website could find really good conditions sometimes with the amount of cards they deal but they didn't even start using penny sleeves till recently. They used to put holos in toploaders without sleeves. Maybe still do idk. 😂 It took them a long time to even adapt to a decent standard. It's still very loose and unforgiving. I have to imagine they deal with many many returns.
Near Mint probably just means that it was straight up thrown in a kids pocket for about 5 weeks, and there happened to be a mint in their pocket as well...
Last time I ordered from Troll and Toad, I spent 400 dollars between 3 cards, they came in a single penny sleeve, inside a top loader. The card in the middle had stuff stuck all over it, front and back. The infuriating part was the shit stuck on the card in the middle left small dents on the other cards from being smashed up with it during the shipping. They were at least in acceptable condition before that. Needless to say, I wasn’t happy and I made a stink until I was able to return everything and get my money back. Troll and Toad use to be good, but that was before Pokemon collecting blew up in 2020. Their quality in singles has went to pure shit and I’ll never shop there again.
I've bought singles off of 2 sites. Literally only 1 card I've gotten listed as NM had a couple creases in the middle which obviously isn't NM, but it was also a $2 card so I wasn't worried.
I like how you don't always just go after the high money cards. You focus more on the average Joe's affordability, and I respect that. Can't wait for the return video.
I bought the SM tag team Garchomp & Giratina alt art, and it arrived in an envelope... no sleeve, no top loader, just the envelope. But that card still arrived in better condition than some of these.
That’s why eBay is one of the best places to buy singles. Sometimes it’s a little more expensive, but a lot of sellers do pretty great photos of the cards. Allowing you, the buyer, to judge the condition before purchasing
I have definitely had this problem from them before. I have also experienced a similar situation with Card Kingdom when buying Magic the Gathering. Not to mention it’s always a bit of a crapshoot with TCG player.
I definitely think TCG Player does a good job of keeping the cards you get within the proper condition rating. Whenever I've had an issue in the past, I have had an easy time getting them sorted out.
I live one town over from where Troll & Toad is. They are way overpriced on most of their cards imo, but selling stuff to them can be beneficial at times because I can just drop them off.
This is at beginning of video, "Troll in Toad" online shop is one of the higher end shops so I'm hoping to see cards shipped in top tier ways and also you should get what cards as explained. Tho I only buy from them here an there, but when I've purchased singles they've come sleeved, in a top loader or card saver depending on the cards value. An then had card board on each side held by painters tape so no left over sticky residue. Granted I only purchased a few cards they seemed legit can't wait to see how they do on a larger scale
Rev, I said the same thing in my review. Kinda mad about that, why not at least individually sleeve if you are going to pack all in one. Even on a $20/30 card. You are right, that's not cheap
You can still clean up some of these imperfections with a Q-tip ! They're usually easily taken off... and don't purchase anything from Troll and Toad 😅
Am I missing something. Did he not say he would link the tcg one below the video? I am looking for it but not seeing anything. I am super curious about tcg
The fact that even eBay sellers will put a $1 common card within a sleeve and seperate Toploader but this big company doesn't do it to cards worth $35+ is beyond insane. TERRIBLE.
For me personally, most of them actually looked like what you would expect from older near mint cards. They are still in pretty good shape but not PSA 10 candidates. I guess for grading they mostly would get grades from 7-8. Edit: First: The reverse holo Gengar is just... not near mint... That's harsh! Second: Rockets Raikou ex is not from EX Team Rocket Returns, but from EX Deoxys as a box topper (if I remember correctly).
Me and my daughter love watching your videos! After watching you She has gotten me back into opening packs for the first time since base set. Keep the vids coming! Take care brother
I like these kinda of videos, it shows what you're likely to get if you use these kind of sites, what do you think about card cleaning before grading? Maybe the booger cards would be a good test.
“Near mint” from troll and toad just means it was stored next to a candy drawer full of mints 🤣
rofl!
🤣
Gengar and mimiku is a definite hit
In the intro
Terrible company
Troll and toad jammed 5 cards (value $101) into 1 penny sleeve. Yes 1 penny sleeve. Wow not great shipping either
I know the feeling. They did the same to my order. 5 cards in same sleeve. It's not like the sleeves are expensive. I mean, they're penny sleeves after all.
Dang, that's honestly disgusting. I recently got a PSA 9 Holo Neo Ursaring the other day for £35. And you paid around thay for that Gengar? This isn't acceptable. They really shouldn't sell cards like this.
In the past I accidentally bought some fake Yu-Gi-Oh booster packs from Troll & Toad. I found out they were fake because the crimps were jagged instead of straight, and ever since then I swore to never do business with Troll & Toad again.
Now we know why it's called TROLL And Toad
No stamp Victreebel...? WOW!
The guideline is to wide theyre basically saying "NM" can range from psa 5 condition to psa 10 which is massive
it's a psa 7-10 for an actual near mint card never buy online because you'll get ripped off on condition look at the card in person first
I remember using Troll and Toad growing up to purchase cards luckily to play and not collect. Wild how rough the cards were!
Yeah I purchased over $300 "Near Mint" 3:32 from Troll & Toad a couple years back, my Shiny cards from D&P had loads of surface scratches on the mirror foil
When I got back into collecting a few years ago, I almost immediately learned to avoid Troll and Toad like the plague. Sadly, this just confirms what I have seen for a long time now.
@PokeRev thank you for your time making this video and the knowledge about the site. While the next guys order might be different….. I know not to take the risk of getting any singles from them for sure and from my own purchase I know that I will not be taking the risk of purchasing anything again from them. Super unfortunate for me and for them because it is business regardless of how much I spent right 🤷🏻♂️ anyway yeah thank you very much for taking the time out of your day to and the money out of your pockets to place the order and take the risk for the rest of the people out there that might be thinking of ordering! And most of all thank you very much for another awesome quality and informative video! Great hanging out and watching your video it definitely keeps me entertained every day on my lunch break and just my breaks. I’m a grunt worker/laborer I do just about anything and everything inside and out of a house from start to finish and maintenance thereafter. I also do various odd jobs like drywall and painting and lawn work like landscaping and even snow removal in the winter. So getting to sit down and relax on my breaks for just a few minutes and get the day’s video in is a real treat for me! Been wanting to say so in the comments for a while but I had always been a lurker non subscriber (I just never subbed to anyone until recently) but anyway I’m rambling as always 🙏 greatly appreciated my man please keep the videos coming! ✌️
I laughed OUT LOUD during this video bruh! The way he describes these cards and talks about them with the boogers and sauces and stuff had me rollin 😂. I like these type videos. They have a little bit of everything.
For every like I will spend that amount on Pokemon!
Chalo Chalo aage bado
Oof 175.
Like beggar and probably bot
A grown man begging for likes 😂😂😂😂😂 that's sad 😂😂😂 and pathetic!!! 😂😂
prove it
i mean alot of cards i have pulled from scarlet and violet sets look like this straight out of the packs. Is that not normal for anyone else?
That Venusaur has deff been scanned through the eReader a few times. Damn
Well thank goodness I have never pulled the trigger on troll and toad. Thanks for the video, very informative
Pokerev: *uploads*
Within 20 seconds: “Cool Video Rev”
Fr dude 😂
I never buy cards from sellers who don't post high-quality photos of the front and back from multiple angles. Near Mint means nothing. We are not graders, and as this video shows, people are scammy and take advantage of the terminology to sell garbage played cards.
They really put the "Troll" in Troll & Toad
Real
Who loves PokeRev 👇
Oh wow, so the troll webside, does troll people? 😅
I have to say, i never in my life saw the "Fireworks" holo effect, and thanks to you i have a new holy grail! That card was so beautiful!! ❤
Yep, all the reverse holos from the legendary collection have that firework pattern. It's pretty sweet
LC reverse holos are all beautiful but they are expensive!
Troll and Toad deliver on time but they are fishy. I dont think i'll be buying from them again
When i think of the name i think of them trolling people and toad being bad conditioned ugly stuff
I enjoy these from time to time to see all these cool vintage artworks. It's even cooler to see you pull them pack fresh!
Will it be good? Let's find out!!
Yeah people seem to think lightly played and even moderately played cards are all near mint when ungraded. I only make orders with photos for that reason.
I love when you buy these “mint cards” it always helps me know which websites to trust. Love this video, thanks!👍
That's why it's called TROLL and toad
Sneaky dark Charizard right away 😅😅😅
The time of buying mint cards from troll and toad is over. I was buying a bunch pre 2018 and it was mostly just from the market being less efficient as it is now. People had to sell their collections to stores like Troll for next to nothing cause it was hard to even find buyers. Collectors buying from the website could find really good conditions sometimes with the amount of cards they deal but they didn't even start using penny sleeves till recently. They used to put holos in toploaders without sleeves. Maybe still do idk. 😂 It took them a long time to even adapt to a decent standard. It's still very loose and unforgiving. I have to imagine they deal with many many returns.
I love experiments like This! Lets see what the grades these ones Get👀👀
Near Mint probably just means that it was straight up thrown in a kids pocket for about 5 weeks, and there happened to be a mint in their pocket as well...
I only buy raw cards from these sites to be in binder but you can get lucky and get mint card 😀
These videos where you buy in a bunch of singles and then grade them for an upcoming video are always so entertaining
I really enjoy these types of videos. Keep them coming 😁
Is troll and toad reliable for booster boxes? Looking for good places to get them.
Pokerev I love you keep doing what ur doing
I’m just getting into the whole Pokemon collecting at 38 years of age and I’m hooked on these videos. Just wish I had started sooner
Troll & Toad, definitely earned their name with this conditions.
Last time I ordered from Troll and Toad, I spent 400 dollars between 3 cards, they came in a single penny sleeve, inside a top loader. The card in the middle had stuff stuck all over it, front and back. The infuriating part was the shit stuck on the card in the middle left small dents on the other cards from being smashed up with it during the shipping. They were at least in acceptable condition before that. Needless to say, I wasn’t happy and I made a stink until I was able to return everything and get my money back. Troll and Toad use to be good, but that was before Pokemon collecting blew up in 2020. Their quality in singles has went to pure shit and I’ll never shop there again.
That looks near mint, bit of blue paint round the edges then bam its perfectly mint, could also try a felt tip or coloring pencil
I love videos like this especially when you grade them afterwards
Thanks Rev for taking one for the team
that umbreon reaction!😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro that’s rough!!! How do you know if you get picked to receive a 5.0 pack rev?
Can’t wait to see how these stock up
I've bought singles off of 2 sites. Literally only 1 card I've gotten listed as NM had a couple creases in the middle which obviously isn't NM, but it was also a $2 card so I wasn't worried.
Thanks for taking one for the team, Rev
That’s why I like to buy already graded cards. Too many people tend to list cards as in better condition than they actually are.
I like how you don't always just go after the high money cards. You focus more on the average Joe's affordability, and I respect that. Can't wait for the return video.
Thanks for the free PokeRev pack giveaway!
Yeah I've got a mixed bag of things from Troll & Toad
The actual condition of the cards having that wide range just blows my mind.
That Gengar card hurt a lot. Some of those were NM, some probably MP, but that Gengar... ouch.
Don't know why but troll and toad is always our go to price guide
Oof Troll and Toad is rough for singles
I bought the SM tag team Garchomp & Giratina alt art, and it arrived in an envelope... no sleeve, no top loader, just the envelope. But that card still arrived in better condition than some of these.
I love how you spend so much on these webite yet there service isnt worth it! Love the vids!!!
On the follow-up video, I would like a reminder of what you thought each card would grade.
That’s why eBay is one of the best places to buy singles. Sometimes it’s a little more expensive, but a lot of sellers do pretty great photos of the cards. Allowing you, the buyer, to judge the condition before purchasing
Troll and toad NM = stored in my pocket for seven years
Excellent to near mint. PSA 5s are "excellent" that's a pretty big range.
I have definitely had this problem from them before. I have also experienced a similar situation with Card Kingdom when buying Magic the Gathering. Not to mention it’s always a bit of a crapshoot with TCG player.
I definitely think TCG Player does a good job of keeping the cards you get within the proper condition rating. Whenever I've had an issue in the past, I have had an easy time getting them sorted out.
I would love a pokerev mystery box please
I live one town over from where Troll & Toad is. They are way overpriced on most of their cards imo, but selling stuff to them can be beneficial at times because I can just drop them off.
There’s a reason people have the expression “troll and toad near mint” when talking about damaged cards lol
I've been on a crazy pokerev binge
This is at beginning of video, "Troll in Toad" online shop is one of the higher end shops so I'm hoping to see cards shipped in top tier ways and also you should get what cards as explained. Tho I only buy from them here an there, but when I've purchased singles they've come sleeved, in a top loader or card saver depending on the cards value. An then had card board on each side held by painters tape so no left over sticky residue. Granted I only purchased a few cards they seemed legit can't wait to see how they do on a larger scale
I couldn't get myself to buy a card without seeing a picture of it. Props to you for taking the hit for us
That Gengar looked like CTR used it as a kneepad when doing his pile knee slides.
Rev, I said the same thing in my review. Kinda mad about that, why not at least individually sleeve if you are going to pack all in one. Even on a $20/30 card. You are right, that's not cheap
I love troll and toad. But the diff is I only buy fun bulk I want for my collection not for buying fancy cards
Paying for NM cards and getting those is a slap in the face, definitely putting the troll in Troll and Toad!
That gengar looks like rick james grinded his boots on it 👢 😅😂
Love these videos! Can't wait for the PSA return.... My opinion you should do WAY MORE PSA videos.... Love to see what cards get what grade! ❤❤❤
After this, I’ll never buy from troll and toad. I had no idea they would have heavily played listed as near mint and think it’s ok.
Never had a poke rev mystery pack ..just saying😊
Troll and toad NM means MP everywhere else normally. I've gotten a FOLDED In half card before, but 1 big crease counted as 1 flaw, therefore... NM LOL
Troll and toad trolled on their card conditions
These experiments are very informative and fun to watch
Dark Charizard is one of my favorite cards. Such a cool art.
You can still clean up some of these imperfections with a Q-tip ! They're usually easily taken off... and don't purchase anything from Troll and Toad 😅
Am I missing something. Did he not say he would link the tcg one below the video? I am looking for it but not seeing anything. I am super curious about tcg
The site is called TCGplayer
The fact that even eBay sellers will put a $1 common card within a sleeve and seperate Toploader but this big company doesn't do it to cards worth $35+ is beyond insane.
TERRIBLE.
Troll and toad haven't seen them in a moment
Apart from the condition this was a very nice diversity of cards!
Back in 2016-18 I was buying tons of NM holos from T&T and were grading 10’s consistently. Now there’s absolutely no way!!!
You did get some great cards, while it was nice to see what Troll & Toad has as near mint, so I enjoyed this video.
For me personally, most of them actually looked like what you would expect from older near mint cards. They are still in pretty good shape but not PSA 10 candidates. I guess for grading they mostly would get grades from 7-8.
Edit:
First: The reverse holo Gengar is just... not near mint... That's harsh!
Second: Rockets Raikou ex is not from EX Team Rocket Returns, but from EX Deoxys as a box topper (if I remember correctly).
I kinda thought you were being a little picky right up until the Ninetails. That Gengar was absolute unacceptable
If u dont want to lose your time, he got a Charizard
Oh man, that umbreon last time was so sad!
Me and my daughter love watching your videos! After watching you She has gotten me back into opening packs for the first time since base set. Keep the vids coming! Take care brother
I enjoy these videos and love when you grade the cards after!
Can’t wait to see the grading you’ve been pretty spot on with your guesses lately
Does it matter how much you pay PSA for grading? I see different prices for grading.
Love these for being informative on buying cards online 😊
I like these kinda of videos, it shows what you're likely to get if you use these kind of sites, what do you think about card cleaning before grading? Maybe the booger cards would be a good test.
I've bought plenty of Troll & Toad cards. The older the card, the more likely it's not mint card...
lmaooo exposing troll and toad 😂
Gotta love it