Red Dwarf - Time Drive

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  • @JnEricsonx
    @JnEricsonx 2 роки тому +159

    Still love those various moments when Rimmer is being 100% correct in his thoughts or suggestions.

    • @neilgerace355
      @neilgerace355 5 місяців тому +1

      Rimmer can be gracious, quick thinking and compassionate when he really tries

  • @spiceweasle3945
    @spiceweasle3945 2 роки тому +32

    Red Dwarf was at it's absolute peak in series 6. Long live the boys from the Dwarf!!!

    • @heartlessangel2910
      @heartlessangel2910 2 дні тому

      Facts. In some bitter sweet way, I kinda prefer that that “Out of Time” was canonically the end of the dwarfers. Better to die as heroes rather embracing the villains they would become.

  • @darkmvz6186
    @darkmvz6186 Рік тому +26

    Kryten's face, joy of medieval deep space 😆

  • @harrytheseal6566
    @harrytheseal6566 2 роки тому +26

    I think it's amazing that they got a time machine to go back to earth, only to realise that it doesn't budge an inch from its original place

    • @williambenson1477
      @williambenson1477 11 місяців тому +3

      oh no, thats the whole point- they did not find a drive to take them back to earth- they found a time machine to travel backwards in time but NOT travel through space...

    • @adamwalkervfx
      @adamwalkervfx 4 місяці тому +2

      Only for the writers to forget that little factoid in literally the next episode. 😂 (For the record, I love Tikka to Ride).

  • @ivorbrae
    @ivorbrae 2 роки тому +18

    I love this. This vies with the 'Holly Hop Drive' scene where ..."the further thought occurs, that we haven't budged a smegging inch!"

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 2 роки тому

      No, we have. But I have to admit it, I've flamingoed up. It's like a cock up but much much bigger.

  • @Ericwvb2
    @Ericwvb2 2 роки тому +14

    This highlights a seldom discussed problem with time travel in general ... The Earth is orbiting the Sun. The solar system is orbiting the core of the galaxy. Our galaxy is moving relative to other galaxies in the universe. If you travel back in time an hour, a year, a century, etc., you'll end up in deep space.

    • @qwadratix
      @qwadratix 5 місяців тому

      @@jasonbennett7002 I believe Copernicus may have mentioned it.

  • @ErictheHalf_bee
    @ErictheHalf_bee Місяць тому +1

    This is by far one of, if not the best, jokes on all of Red Dwarf. This, and the blue alert bulb.

  • @MrAtullberg
    @MrAtullberg 4 роки тому +18

    When I first saw this, my immediate thought was 'go to where Red Dwarf definitely was, then go back', but this was before the nano reveal.

    • @owenbutters7994
      @owenbutters7994 2 роки тому +4

      To be honest that would’ve probably just revealed the nanos earlier

    • @nicridsdel
      @nicridsdel 2 роки тому

      Same here…

  • @woodrobin
    @woodrobin 2 роки тому +91

    Either that, or if they acquire reliable suspended animation technology, they can go back in time three million years, set the ship on course for Earth, and go into suspended animation, so that they arrive back on Earth shortly after they originally left (best not to arrive before they left, depending on the effect of paradox in the universe of Red Dwarf).

    • @IronicSonics
      @IronicSonics 2 роки тому +12

      well they are currently 3 million years distant from earth, so theyll have to go 6 million years into the past and travel 3 million years in suspended animation to get back to earth in their relative present, unless they want to arrive on 3million AD earth. That also ignores and expansion of space or travel of the solar system in the milky ways as it orbits the galactic centre around every 200million years.

    • @woodrobin
      @woodrobin 2 роки тому +6

      @@IronicSonics I see your point. Actually the series doesn't make a lot of sense in terms of time and distance. In the first season, Dave Lister is the last surviving human because his mining ship had a radiation leak while he was in the stasis brig (basically gives the person a time-out as punishment . . . they aren't using up air, water and food sitting in the brig, they just don't get paid for the time they're in stasis). The ship wakes him up three million years later when the radiation is at safe levels. In the meantime, the human species has become extinct. They're not any particularly remote distance from Earth, it's the time that has passed that is the issue.
      In the second seaason, they're somehow also "three million years from Earth," and it's treated like it's a distance (like light years) or a travel time (like "it would take three million years to get there at the best speed we can maintain"). If those are both true, then they're three million years travel from Earth and three million years in Lister's future, so to get to a time before his family and friends (assuming he had any of either around) are all dead, he'd need to go back six million years as you described.

    • @dj1NM3
      @dj1NM3 2 роки тому +3

      @@woodrobin It's all being done for "Teh LOLZ" so we're not really supposed to think *that* deeply about how they could really fix their overall dilemma.

    • @dominikdobrotic8298
      @dominikdobrotic8298 2 роки тому +2

      Or they could travel at the speed so close to light that for them its minutes or hours (the faster you go the slower time passes for you) untill they arrive at earth and then they use the timemachine to go back in the past

    • @nunyabisnass1141
      @nunyabisnass1141 2 роки тому +3

      Or they could go back to 3mil years and send themselves a message on how to avoid the incident.

  • @johndoyle4723
    @johndoyle4723 2 роки тому +12

    Rimmer being such a smeghead when he is right.
    I watched the series with my children, we all loved them.

  • @darrenhirst9900
    @darrenhirst9900 2 роки тому +4

    When time was going backwards and the cat came out of the toilet with a look on his face you knew what had happened 🤣

  • @Ragroxin
    @Ragroxin 4 місяці тому +1

    I think the major overlooked aspect of the time drive was as a defensive tool
    Something nasty coming to you outside the ship - jump back a few years, you are still in the same place but whatever it was is now gone, either because it hasn't arrived yet - or if it's a "fixed position" i.e. celestial body / station / anomaly etc. it would be millions of miles away due to galactic rotation.

    • @isiahs9312
      @isiahs9312 3 місяці тому

      could just set a course for earth, go back 3 million years in time, and remain in status the whole trip.

  • @gregorysagegreene
    @gregorysagegreene 2 роки тому +8

    They picked my birthday over 500 years ago, instead of Australia they time-shifted the timezone and got American time in deep space one day earlier.

  • @nunyabisnass1141
    @nunyabisnass1141 2 роки тому +14

    Heres what you do when you cant travel faster than light, but can travel through time. You go back to the point where your future self can recieve a message calculated to recieve it for the time it takes for that message to travel.
    Its the same with futurama on omacron perseai 8 when ler wanted to see the season finally but the broadcast got cutoff. All he would have to do is send someone closer to earth the monitor the signal until the rerun came on, then race back to ler and give him the completed episode.

    • @sword4005
      @sword4005 2 роки тому +2

      or yet send a message so that red dwarf in the past would receive it before the accident, preventing red dwarf crews demise and more importantly for rimmer his death

    • @adamwhitehead7289
      @adamwhitehead7289 2 роки тому

      @@sword4005 Red Dwarf has branching timelines, so all that would do is create a parallel universe where the accident never happens. It doesn't help "our" characters from their perspective. They're still marooned.

  • @rosePetrichor
    @rosePetrichor 2 роки тому +2

    And then in series 7 this whole joke is made redundant when they DO use the time drive to go back to Earth, to make sure Lister can be found under the pool table

    • @nicridsdel
      @nicridsdel 2 роки тому

      …and to try and get Lister a “…small lakes’ worth of curry”…

  • @TheGreatSeraphim
    @TheGreatSeraphim 2 роки тому +10

    If you remain in the exact same physical point in space without anchoring to a physical body you would technically be closer or further from something.
    Harry Potter actually does this type of time travel with the Time Turner. The object is linked to a giant physical object to keep the user relative to it so when they use it they don't end up in space or ground.
    Of course flying by these rules means you're also subject to dangers such as things being or not being where they were in the past or future like MIB3 where they give a subtle nod to this when J goes back in time.

    • @wizardsuth
      @wizardsuth Рік тому

      There would also be a problem with your orientation relative to the anchor object. If you went back 12 hours you'd be on the opposite side of the anchor due to Earth's rotation. Depending on your latitude this might also put you at a different altitude, i.e. some distance above ground or buried under it.

  • @slaxxxer
    @slaxxxer 2 роки тому +80

    "Well yes" delivered hysterically!

  • @The_Lost_Subrosian
    @The_Lost_Subrosian Рік тому +1

    In five years time, you find another way to come back in time.

  • @johnbanks4761
    @johnbanks4761 2 роки тому +9

    hilarious to me that noone realised..time machine does not make a spatial displacement machine......hahaha love this show

    • @geoffkryten
      @geoffkryten  2 роки тому +6

      Which is exactly why an earthbound time machine could never work. Whatever time you go to, the earth isn’t there anymore and you’d find yourself floating in space. We must travel through time and space.

    • @DisemboweII
      @DisemboweII 2 роки тому

      @@geoffkryten I don't think time travel machines are possible in the first place, one of many problems would be arriving at the correct destination; with no "receiving" device it'd be like trying to send an electric currentfrom an open wire to a precise position somewhere in the space near to it, accurately, with no sort of antenna or beacon to guide it... it'd flail around wildly until turned off, or never reach out in the first place

    • @FFKonoko
      @FFKonoko 2 роки тому

      @@DisemboweII Your premise makes sense, but I don't think your reason why does? If it were that, then time travel is possible from the moment someone builds such a receiving device. You couldn't travel back further, but could travel back to that point or any point afterward...?
      I'd just flatly agree that it isn't possible, receiving device or not.

    • @Lord_Skeptic
      @Lord_Skeptic 2 роки тому +2

      @@geoffkryten in order to be in the same space you need to be relevant to another part in space so you could use the earth as the relative point.
      Sorry I cannot word it any better than that.

    • @geoffkryten
      @geoffkryten  2 роки тому

      @@Lord_Skeptic yes but everything is always in motion, so you just need to do the math to figure out where the planet was on the date you want to go there.

  • @LegionsAU
    @LegionsAU 8 місяців тому +1

    Still one of the best gags

  • @ganados0
    @ganados0 5 років тому +31

    Funnily enough they had a device capable of temporal and location shifting in the previous episode.

    • @NPCSingularity
      @NPCSingularity 3 роки тому +19

      Well the next episode. After they destroyed the time drive they went back to the time ship and got the portable one so Lister could get Indian Food in the 20th century only to end up in Dallas the day of Kennedy’s assassination.

  • @animemanXLK
    @animemanXLK 2 роки тому +10

    If they still access to red dwarf's stais chambers the time drive could effectively serve a similar role to ftl travel. You'd need to plot your course how long it will take you to arrive your destination and then set the time travel accordingly before going into stasis. Anywere and when achieved. The drawbacks is you can't account for what might happen to the ship while your in stasis.

    • @rosePetrichor
      @rosePetrichor 2 роки тому +2

      Well, yes, but given that Lister had the idea to go into stasis to wait out the trip back to earth in... the second episode of the first series, and then just... doesn't do that or mention the idea ever again, we can only assume that they were not viable for some reason (or, as is actually the case, the writers just forgot..!)

    • @animemanXLK
      @animemanXLK 2 роки тому

      @@rosePetrichor I think the main issues were Cat's huge wardrobe that he insisted on taking and Rimmer's insesant micro managing and general interfering. They never out right stated to my knowledge the stasis Chambers were no longer functional.

    • @rosePetrichor
      @rosePetrichor 2 роки тому +3

      @@animemanXLK the thing is, if Cat's huge wardrobe needed to go into stasis to survive the trip then it shouldn't have existed in the first place; all the stuff on the ship apparently survived the nuclear accident and 3 million years out in the open just fine, lol

    • @clasicradiolover
      @clasicradiolover 2 роки тому

      Well if Lister had gone into stasis it would have made some very boring episodes after that. Show comes on, pans over Lister in stasis, goes off again

  • @ladymecha8718
    @ladymecha8718 Рік тому +2

    Considering space expands over time, they could travel back in time, and then travel in space as a short cut as the distance to Earth would be closer by the shorter expansion in the time frame of the past. But the guys aren’t smart enough to figure this one out. 😂

    • @geoffkryten
      @geoffkryten  Рік тому

      That’s a great point. I don’t know how much space expands in 3 million years but it is sure to take some time off of the journey.

  • @Synnystershy
    @Synnystershy 4 місяці тому +1

    1:31 sounds like something on Blackadder... Minus the TV weather girl line.

  • @FildasKirk
    @FildasKirk 6 років тому +32

    nice, safe and dull - yeah right, as if the Middle ages could be called that, especially since 1421 was when the Hundred years war was once again in the active phase (the Henry V. phase) in France and the Hussite war of religious unrest was spreading throughout the central Europe.

    • @woodrobin
      @woodrobin 2 роки тому +5

      Well, it's nice, safe, and dull three million years worth of space travel distant from Earth. Which, assuming they didn't have encyclopedic knowledge of ancient history in that region of space, is incredibly lucky. Go back about two billion years in Larry Niven's Known Space universe, for instance, and you arrive in the Thrintun Empire, a galaxy-spanning slavery based imperial civilization run by carnivorous telepaths capable of mind-controlling any known species with relative ease.
      They were only overthrown because one of the enslaved races (the Tnuctipun) were so much more intelligent than the Thrint that they were able to obey the letter of their commands while perverting the spirit by designing devices and bio-engineered plants and animals that were usable to subvert their masters or sabotage them. For instance, they designed telepathic amplifiers to extend the range of Thrintun telepathy -- and made them so strong and long-ranged that one Thrint could dominate a whole planet, thus encouraging them to spread far out and away from each other and over-extend their reach. They designed self-growing lift engines ("stage trees") that stored reactive sap in their trunks and could be harvested to use as rocket engines . . . or triggered to turn orchards into huge bombs. They were commissioned to create livestock creatures with large, delicious brains (as Thrint especially enjoyed consuming brains) . . . and created the Bandersnatch, which looked like elephant-sized slugs, were stronger than bulldozers, and were completely immune to telepathy, disguising the fact that they were actually intelligent beings.
      If the only recourse against the people in charge when you pop up in your time machine is to be extremely clever, devious, and intelligent . . . the crew of the Red Dwarf would be in deep, deep trouble.

    • @ericwilliams1659
      @ericwilliams1659 2 роки тому

      Bless the algorithm that have resurrected this clip from one of the greatest shows ever.
      I always felt the joke could go two ways. First, we (humans) clearly didn't have much going on, specifically involving space, in the year 1421.
      Or it was an joke that lester didn't know how "un-nice, un-safe and un-dull" war torn medieval Europe was.

    • @ericwilliams1659
      @ericwilliams1659 2 роки тому

      As an adult, i see it is both. Lester is unaware of the chaotic nature of life the middle ages and unaware of their location in the galaxy.
      What i now wonder is if they are lost (i believe at this point in tbr show they have even lost the Red Dwarf mining ship) in space on Star Bug(?).
      How would they know where to go if they found a FTL (faster than light) device.
      I guess it is time to buy brit box and rewatch all of these.

    • @andreww2098
      @andreww2098 2 роки тому

      @@ericwilliams1659 lister not lester

    • @guyverjay1289
      @guyverjay1289 2 роки тому

      errrr

  • @2Scribble
    @2Scribble 4 місяці тому

    I love how through this *whole mess* Kryten doesn't bother to explain that they can only move TEMPORALY - not spatially - until AFTER they do so xD

  • @bluemagus2424
    @bluemagus2424 2 роки тому +4

    with the time drive what i never understood was why not go back to where they last had red dwarf and then jump to the day they lost her... poof problem solved. yes i know how they resolved it but at the time it was simple logic

  • @KRYTEN451
    @KRYTEN451 4 роки тому +6

    A Dwarfer!

  • @Blubatt
    @Blubatt 2 роки тому +4

    What I love is that these characters are too thick to see how they could use it to get home. They could travel 3 million and 200 years into the past, go into cryo deep sleep, and set a course for Earth.

    • @pianomoods1314
      @pianomoods1314 2 роки тому +5

      How did they miss such a blatant clue, the twonks! 😂

    • @LandersWorkshop
      @LandersWorkshop 2 роки тому +1

      They don't have cryo tubes on the Starbug.

    • @SamuelBlack84
      @SamuelBlack84 8 місяців тому

      ​@@LandersWorkshopActually, they do
      You see them in the episode Psirens

    • @LandersWorkshop
      @LandersWorkshop 8 місяців тому

      Holy necro-post Blackman! Damn, thanks for the update I guess.@@SamuelBlack84

  • @MrBond249
    @MrBond249 2 роки тому +6

    This was the best series of Red Dwarf. Unfortunately, it fell off a cliff as everything that came after was rubbish.

  • @Useaname
    @Useaname 2 роки тому +1

    This reminds me of a pulp sci-fi short story I read in a sci-fi annual from the 50s. I think the story was called The MilitAnts

  • @neilgerace355
    @neilgerace355 5 місяців тому

    "Well yes!"

  • @TheJohnCooperShow
    @TheJohnCooperShow 7 місяців тому +1

    if theyre chasing red dwarf, couldnt they go back in time to make up ground on it

    • @geoffkryten
      @geoffkryten  7 місяців тому

      Perhaps, but thinking about that and all the consequences of that makes my brain hurt.

    • @TheJohnCooperShow
      @TheJohnCooperShow 7 місяців тому +1

      @@geoffkryten they’d only have to go back in time a few days. Kryten could work out how far ahead red dwarf is and maybe even go back in time so they’re slightly ahead of red dwarf even

  • @computernerd1101
    @computernerd1101 2 роки тому +1

    Depending on frame of reference, there are multiple subjective lines of simultaneity between Earth 1421 and Starbug's current location in deep space during multiple time periods, making it impossible to pinpoint 1421 objectively.

    • @Sewblon
      @Sewblon Рік тому

      We don't need to pin point 1421 objectively. We just need to pin point it within the reference frame that corresponds to Star Bug.

  • @matthewlloyd3255
    @matthewlloyd3255 5 місяців тому

    I never understand why when Lister went into Stasis in episode 1, season 1, why Holly didn't just park the ship in the solar system somewhere with a message "Not be boarded for n years until radiation levels decreased...1 surviving crew in stasis...please wait..." (well...I do understand..we wouldn't have the show then would we?)

  • @Milamberinx
    @Milamberinx 2 роки тому +3

    They have stasis pod technology, they don't need a faster than light drive, they can already go anywhere and anywhen.

    • @DisemboweII
      @DisemboweII 2 роки тому

      The issue with stasis pods is you're still at the whim of the universe as you wait in stasis; you could crash into something, be boarded and raided, have faulty technology that kills you during sleep, etc

    • @mattcoyte
      @mattcoyte 2 роки тому

      But you can't go back in time with a stasis pod, only into the future.

    • @Milamberinx
      @Milamberinx 2 роки тому

      @@mattcoyte this whole video is about them having a time drive.

    • @Milamberinx
      @Milamberinx 2 роки тому

      @@DisemboweII that's a good point, perhaps they should go back in time to when the universe was smaller and travel there.

    • @mattcoyte
      @mattcoyte 2 роки тому

      @@Milamberinx I thought you were saying in your comment that at stasis pod would allow you to go 'anywhen'. Did I misunderstand?

  • @hardwirecars
    @hardwirecars 2 роки тому

    could have gone back 3 mil years and had everyone go back into stasis for the trip home

  • @godmeherbaba5607
    @godmeherbaba5607 Рік тому

    💖💖❤❤💘💘

  • @myaccount6216
    @myaccount6216 2 роки тому

    I suppose going back in time actually did change their distance to Earth since it's always moving... a bit too much for this to help

  • @mikes6961
    @mikes6961 2 роки тому +1

    Thats the problem with time travel. You travel in time and wind up in the trunk of a tree that used to grow where your time machine is now.

    • @DisemboweII
      @DisemboweII 2 роки тому

      If it displaces the exact shape of the physical space you occupy with the tree, you've just cut a neat spaceship out of the tree and left a large, pristine tree carving of a spaceship in your original timeline...

    • @dajw
      @dajw 2 роки тому +1

      That fails to account for the fact that everything in the universe is moving, and some of it quite fast. Frame of reference. The earth is spinning, orbiting the sun, the sun is steaming through space along with the galaxy which is also moving through space etc etc
      I’d argue that given either time travel or teleportation you’d wind up in deep space a long way from where you expected to be!

  • @randclar2037
    @randclar2037 2 роки тому

    Pretty Cool

  • @medexamtoolscom
    @medexamtoolscom 2 роки тому +1

    Why did they bother going back to the future, if it's a 3 million year trip back to Earth anyway? They might as well go 3 million years into the past and then when they eventually get back, it will be the right time. Though there is a chance they won't live that long.

  • @GawrGurasBathTubPizza
    @GawrGurasBathTubPizza 2 роки тому

    i'm confused at the drive, if they went back in time wouldn't travelling back a few years everyone in the ship be alive? even if that isn't how it worked can't they do that then make radio contact easier where more of the earths space travellers be alive? (i'm aware i'm over thinking things as this is just a joke but still)

  • @righteousone8454
    @righteousone8454 2 роки тому

    But did Tommy's revolver work in the end?

  • @valuepurposemission7517
    @valuepurposemission7517 2 роки тому +2

    just not enough humor like this anymore ... just sayin

  • @iamsemjaza
    @iamsemjaza 2 роки тому +2

    Or just go back for the length of your planned journey, go into stasis, and get there when you want. Back fast, long way forward.

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 2 роки тому

      The time machine is the essential ingredient though, because the intent for Lister isn't just to return to earth, it's to return "home", to the earth he left behind, with people n shit. Call me old-fashioned but if we and the Egbert Arms are still here in six billion years, I'll be rather surprised.

    • @iamsemjaza
      @iamsemjaza 2 роки тому +1

      @@ryans756 Yes, that's why you travel back the amount of time it takes you to drive home. Then you arrive at "the present" after a long nap in stasis.

  • @Mikewee777
    @Mikewee777 2 роки тому

    Was the " Spy Kids 3D" movie
    inspired by this robot ?

  • @danielwilliamson6180
    @danielwilliamson6180 4 роки тому +4

    0:43 1:27

    • @stevecarter8810
      @stevecarter8810 2 роки тому +1

      Wish! I just experienced time travel

    • @danielwilliamson6180
      @danielwilliamson6180 2 роки тому

      @@stevecarter8810 Don't we all. But, time travel does have it's consequences.

  • @vinnartaigh2076
    @vinnartaigh2076 2 роки тому +2

    They're all dead Dave

  • @jananchoudhury1503
    @jananchoudhury1503 5 років тому +17

    That moment you realise why Avengers Endgame made no sense.

    • @BYERE
      @BYERE 4 роки тому +5

      Janan Choudhury Different theory of time travel. Red Dwarf used the cause->effect theory (whereby changing something from the past instantly alters the future)
      Endgame used the parallel timelines theory, whereby any changes made do not directly change your history or future... as that could ultimately stop you from travelling back in time, thus creating a paradox... but instead creates an alternate timeline that the changes affect, which is separate from your own.

    • @HeartofBattlechannel
      @HeartofBattlechannel 3 роки тому +1

      @@BYERE Dragon Ball Z used that theory decades before Endgame did

    • @BYERE
      @BYERE 3 роки тому +2

      @@HeartofBattlechannel What's your point? The comment that I replied to was about Endgame. Yes, DBZ did use the same idea about time travel, but that really doesn't mean anything within this conversation's context.

    • @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475
      @dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 2 роки тому +3

      @@BYERE Still a shit movie though.

    • @tskmaster3837
      @tskmaster3837 2 роки тому +1

      Endgame is brilliant because the shrinking time travel is BOTH time travel and teleportation.
      You're shrinking down to the quantumverse which connects to the universe at every point- and then you merely pick where you re-enter.
      The brilliant part is they never explain it, they just show it in action.

  • @WinLoveCry
    @WinLoveCry Місяць тому +1

    🤣

  • @martinirvine9314
    @martinirvine9314 2 роки тому

    Aim Red Dwarf at Earth and press go. Set the time machine to 3,000,000 years in the future and bingo(I think)🤔😂

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 2 роки тому +1

      Very good! Only, then you'll arrive at the earth six billion years after you originally left it, and if you've still got that library book...

    • @Lord_Skeptic
      @Lord_Skeptic Рік тому +1

      9000000 years. Your baseball cards will be worth a fortune though.

  • @automat3000
    @automat3000 2 роки тому +1

    Pre-Renaissance deep space 😆

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins 2 роки тому

    bit of a problem I suppose