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I helped with a flip this past winter/spring on a 100 year old house built on a crawl space. Half the floor joists were broken, there was no insulation in an addition, the grade of the backyard drained all rain and snow under the house, window sills were rotted, and not a single wall, floor, or ceiling was level or square in the place. It should have been torn down and had a new build, but the flipper was looking for a quick flip. It was a heck of a project, and most of the house is still unlevel, however it did end up selling, but the flipper lost about $90K. Anyway, this made me realize I'd love to be a carpenter, plumber, and/or electrician.
Hey Mr Roger! Love your vids too. Watched your toolkit setup for < $400 the other day. Personally I hate seeing any plumbing bc as a handyman I’m not supposed to touch it. But sometimes we do what we’ve got to do.
When you're in the midst of a project dragging and not going well it's nice to see someone far more practiced than yourself having a bad time too. Surprises are fun.
Haha. I picked up lumber last night and left the hardware store around ten pm . Perfect timing for me. I rebuilt the stairs yesterday but I have other plans to redo the deck .
LOL, great to hear I'm not the only one. Thought I could re-popcorn a bathroom and replace 2 sheets of drywall this weekend. It's Sunday and I've only sprayed the ceiling today...
Look, been a home owner for 3 years now. Remodeled SO many things. If I NEVER have to do another remodel I’ll be so goll damn happy. And here you are doing it for a living. Props.
Just want to say i watched this last week and took possession of a place yesterday. I started to mess around in the bathroom and found a wet spot in the ceiling drywall. The video provided enough oversight for me not to get overwhelmed. Found the small leak in a bent copper pipe. The plumber is coming tomorrow to change it out. Good stuff!
This is what I like. Doing a demo/remodel and stuff goes sideways. This is real life. No editing, no cut and paste. Just plain ol' "Oh crap, this is worse than I thought. Now what!"
I agree. The old house I'm working on was a rental for years. What a mess! Even where someone came in to repair made it worse. There's more code violations than if a food inspector checked all the restaurants in NYC. This channel makes me feel, "Wow it's not just me. But I have an example of how to keep calm & deal with it."
I know you're in a manufactured house there. I am dealing with the same 2x3 walls. I just finished the commode room because the toilet had no subfloor under it because of the way the last plumber sealed it. It looked exactly like under your shower. Fixing that toilet turned in to an entire remodel and watching your channel has helped me the whole way. Thank you!
Jeff, I gotta say it again, I'm so glad to see you working on an older manufactured home. Mine is a 1980 doublewide. I feel overwhelmed at times renovating ours but seeing your surprises being a professional gives me confidence to keep at it! Btw, I once heard someone say whoever built these things got paid by the staple lol Boy, are they right!!
This kind of stuff has been the core lesson of all our remodeling efforts. We find it every time we do a project so we aren’t actually surprised anymore but we still feel the ripple effects of the shock we got when we removed the back “wall” of our masterbath shower to learn there was no wall- just the attic!😮
Carpenter from Quebec, Canada. Mostly do formworking. God I love your videos. Bought an old 1967 house 5 years ago and renovated all of it. Learnt so much through all this process. Your videos helped me quite a few times, especially for the bathroom part ! Keep up the videos I love them ! 👌👌👌
Just found the same thing in my mobile. Found the problem from underneath. Not ready to reno the shower, but the drain was not sealed and the subfloor is not well. Crawling under there tonight with a new much better drain assembly! NO MORE LEAKS!
I had plans to replace kitchen cabinets- after removal, mold on the drywall. Removed that, and found termite damage! It turned into a complete kitchen gut and renovation/ damage is repaired and it turned out great! I feel ya on this one!
Thanks to your videos I remodeled my entire bathroom DIY with subway tile walls and new floor. My house was built in 1961 and this was the kind lazy errors I ran into while doing the demolition. Leaking toilet rotted 1/3 of the planks and the previous refresh decided to tile around the vanity lol. The leaky toilet could have been easily avoided using a rubber toilet gasket because the house shifts so much.
I just tore apart a Florida single wide and it was worse than this. We supported the roof and re-did the whole thing, joists and all. The good thing it was placed on a concrete pad which really helped out.
Got a Delta Monitor Lahara. The cartridge exploded during an unusual freeze in my area (it rarely gets below freezing where I live but it did that one winter). Sent them a photo, the info on when & where I bought it, the digital receipt, etc and they sent a new cartridge for free. My old trim kit was 3 knobs- hot, cold, & diverter for tub spout/shower. They were ugly. Now I have a single one that has dual function- small lever controls temp & larger one controls pressure. I can actually leave the temp at where I like it and move the pressure one when I turn on the shower. I'm going to have to do something similar when removing an old avocado green one-piece shower/tub. Going to suck tearing it all out. Looks like that wall needs some Killz! (I thought that as soon as I saw mold & before you mentioned it). Oops, I purchased my fixtures first. LOL. Although, it worked out for my ensuite bathroom project.
I grew up in apartments in NYC, which were maintained by landlords and supers. Something went wrong, you called the landlord and it would get fixed. So, I never really knew what went on behind the walls. How was everything held together? Was it magic, or magnets? I never really gave it much thought. It always just _was._ It wasn’t until my father moved us out to the suburbs and into a peach-colored ranch that was built in 1965 that I learned. After living in that house for 12 years, after my father and mother relocated to Florida, and after the pink-tiled bathroom began falling apart and the shower began leaking into the basement, I was fed up and put my foot through the wall and said, “Well, now I have to learn how to fix this.” Tearing apart that bathroom from rafters to joists, I finally learned what exists behind walls: someone else’s shitty work. That was one of the best life lessons I have ever learned.
Oh how I wish you lived in the suburbs of Chicago. I was just quoted 10,000 for a 5x8 bath. That is with me still having to buy all fixtures, no tub removal, and pay out electric separately. I am trying to soak up all this info to do it myself. I've been binge watching your A to Z bathroom remodel. Once I put the hammer to tile theres no turning back.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY your words to Gods ears. I just dont know where to start. Behind my shower wall is the fuse box on the other side. I really dont want an electrifying experience as I shower...hahaha
Thanks Jeff! I have the same problem with the 1940s house that we bought. The bathroom floor was all swelled up! Now I'm excites to see twaht you're going to do next.
This video reminds me of when I went to install a waterline for my new fridge and as I was making my way drilling holes through the bottom of the cabinets and when I got to the dishwasher it was mush. I pulled the dishwasher out and discovered black mold. So, a simple water line install turned into a full kitchen remodel because the cabinets had to be removed and all the drywall to make sure all the mold was killed. I had to call in a remediation company which then turned into an asbestos remediation....
It sounds like you were in the mood to listen to the people who said that you “should do something” or “should call someone” Next time learning a little more will help tons in the handling of the next project. And also helping people who want to help you part with tons of cash finding your door to leave faster.
Glad I'm not the only person finding water issues. I found a lot of water damage from a leaky washer hookup that wicked up from the floor, onto the wall 1/2 way up to the ceiling, and into the adjoining room. Lots of black mold, very fun... sadly it'll be an insurance claim. OH! And I also had the same issue with the putty in the drain, but in my case it was caulk holding the drain down... that was a fun afternoon.
Great video, I really appreciate that you guys don’t take shortcuts! I’m afraid my bathroom may have similar issues, plus the previous owners didn’t install the toilet correctly so the floor is sagging from water damage 🤦🏾♀️ I’d love to see a video where you demo an older house (100+ years) if you haven’t already - especially trying to navigate around possible asbestos and inconsistent studs 😅
Scope on my bathroom renovation kept increasing like this. Rotten subfloor, rotten top plate, notched-out corner post. Nothing like natural lessons in patience. 😂
This is the most real you can get with a project, and its becoming so much more common nowadays. 70s homes need love, and they're EVERYWHERE. I'm living and working in my '73 modular right now and I've already replaced structural members for three windows on overhangs on a second floor. Water damage. Lived here for less than a year.
Jeff I'm sorry for the unexpected condition but it's such a good thing for others to see this. I run into unexpected things all the time in my 60yr old home and it drives me crazy. By the way where can one get that long screwdriver drill bit you have on your drill?
Great video Jeff. I have signed up at Ferguson plumbing as a general contractor for my home renovation. That’s why we have codes. With that being said I better get back outside and do some wooden fencing and some asphalt repair. Try to clear my driveway of lumber and sawdust. . Stay well Jeff and team . ❤
think i did this same job in a house in Aurora ON back in the day the plumbing under the floor looks the same lol what a hot mess that was i cannot imagine how they were not having it rain down below this shower or it being really smelly
@Home RenoVision DIY 10:19 Jeff, this would be the 2nd drain in bathroom I’ve seen this week not connected. I had bathtub was removing & it wasn’t connected & that also explained somethings. The thing was siliconed, flex taped, etc all around drain but nobody decided to just connect the darn thing 🤦🏼. I’d say I’m surprised, but more I did when 1st moved to FL 15 yrs ago, I was shocked at 1st by what saw…..today though, it’s the “norm”, lol 🤦🏼 ANS SAD THING, was brand new home, 6 months old, & it’s how the builder etc…left it and I the job of new construction; which young couples or 1st time buyers thinking getting turn-key no problem house, that passed inspection…..yep, they usually do; & this my opinion ppl, fyi. Cheers✌🏻
I DO have one more fiberglass enclosure to replace someday, but I have semi-finished/garage space beneath, so hopefully I'd have noticed anything funky.
Ha, I had the exact same "shower drain connected with nothing but gravity" issue in my downstairs bathroom....luckily, I hardly used it until the remodel. I'm almost envious of those workers achieving a level of laziness I did not think possible.
How about when your installing the tub suround but the holes are off. I ran into this when I didn't measure the mixing valve and spout properly. I dry fitted the back panel in and made a cardboard template and located the holes perfectly and then transfered to the side panel and the holes were 2 1/2" off from left to right. What I didn't know at the time was that the side panel did not slide in all the way and butt up to the back wall. Now I haveto try and relocate the the piping and cut new holes in the panel to make it work. I did try contacting the company to see if I could just buy the new panel and it was a no go. I searched youtube and didn't really find anything useful. The best I could come up with is using a remodeling ring to cover the hole when I move the spout over some. It won't be centered but better than it was. As for the ring, I ended up using a 1 1/2" washer that I primed and painted. A video on how you would approach this and fix it would no doubt be helpful. great work btw,I do get alot from your videos.
The other issue with moisture in bathrooms is that bathrooms dont have conditioned air as they dont have returns.The exchange is done with the exhaust fan! So in theory ,you would need to run your fan 24/7,which most are undersized from the start.
We've been in our 1942 1.5-2 story since last fall and the bathroom walls have streaks of water running down them if the AC has been run recently. Even closing the register as much as possible hasn't helped much as the condensation is beading on/near the register grill and where the duct rises up behind the wall. The house was bought renovated as a flip and with previous conversions and everything covered it's frustrating to not know what's actually hidden behind walls and what is a lurking disaster. What's weird is that most of the major work looks mostly decent to solidly professional, but finish details are either lacking or poorly done. Anyway, I'm pretty sure the flippers either added the first/only exhaust fan ducting or at least replaced the exterior vent shutters and put in the cheapest 50 CFM from HD. I've tried taking cooler showers without recent AC but it hasn't improved much at all, so given I've never had these issues in other smaller rooms with the same flow exhausts, I'm thinking the may be a problem with the exhaust ducting flow. Our AC is working well, no indication of a evap condensate drain problem, but indoor humidity seems to have become a sudden issue with noticeable drink and bathroom condensation. We've had a lot of rain and humidity this summer but didn't really have any issues during wet periods in spring and early summer. Not really sure what to do but I think it's at least in part from hacked up HVAC duct work right above the bathroom register to the former attic(?) that's now a pretty big bedroom/den/loft. Apparently behind the built-in bookshelf and drawers is the only semi-accessable unfinished space with a few ducts and drain vent stack presumably. With a weird layout and several renovations over the years it's a mystery what's hidden and it seems maybe conditioned air is leaking in to some mostly empty interior wall cavities.
"Of course nothing here is square" - had the same idea fixing up my house built in 1947. I'm a cnc machinist and seeing a couple cm difference in room width between one end and the other is shocking.
I LOVE this content sir, please keep on doing your thing, I've learned more here than anywhere. Found my love for DEWALT tools also as my brand 🙏🙏 God Bless and thank you for the phenomenal content
I've renovated seven houses all built before 1960. I'm not surprised by anything. Normally, really good bones but terrible remodeling through the years. It's very interesting to peel back the layers.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I don’t doubt that. I’m leaving the little island in Florida and traveling the country in a few months; excited to see different methods, materials, and adventures
Looking at the extra space you created, I think I would use it all for the shower. I’d leave the valve where it is, but move the shower head to the other side. And then I’d not install a door and just put up enough glass beside the vanity for splashes.
A friend was complaining to me the other day that his shower has a leak that no one seems to be able to find. I now find myself wondering if it's been done the same way 😞
@10:00 " Its not that bad, It could have been black and fuzzy". !! 11:35 "OH MY GOD!!!...... I am giggling in an anticipating way at that because I know YOU have just found a teaching project extraordinaire! Shivering black bell thumbs up!
Two things, Jeff, first: when you slid in the shower your back was probably a centimeter from ramming into the shower control valve pipe sticking out. Second: you are dealing with a trailer from the 70's. They were built so cheaply and crappy I'm not surprised with the problems. Anyone with money back then didn't live in them. In fact, in storms they went airborne with any large gust of wind. In a tornado you found them across town!😂😂
Can I just say, BTDT? I'll be watching as this unfolds. In my case it was a kitchen that my home inspector said had a loose tile in front of the sink cabinet. After closing, I went and looked under the tile, only to find a direct opening to the crawl space. An improper, leaking, dishwasher drain connection left me with floor joists that were only remaining in place by memory.
Welcome to Florida, the first rule of thumb when buying a house in Florida is, slab on grade due to the moisture problems. The second rule of thumb is make sure the inspector has looked hard for termites. I wish i could post a photo of what I found on my current remodeling project on my girlfriends house. The entire stud pack on one corner of the house was nothing but mud and toothpicks, 5 2x4's gone. Luckily they stopped at the top plate in that spot. They did get into one side of the 2x10 header on the porch.
Lol . I was thinking the same thing about Florida humidity. The humidity in St louis Missouri rivals Acapulco, Houston and ant other cities and countries!
wow that was a great plumer glad you cought it jeff....cant wait for the next video ...i think it would be great to enlarge the shower in that space now...
Staples. Yes, it's not a stick built home, it's a double-wide manufactured home. They toss them together as quick and as light as they can which also explains the 1x you encounter.
I remodeled my bathroom 2 years ago. the rot was bad. tile shower 50 years old. ever bit of wood from 4 ft and below was incredibly damp. How the floor never fell through, I have no idea
Normal pre-HUD mobile home construction. Two by four were not required until June 1976 when mobile homes officially became known as manufactured homes.
You are a brave man attacking that remaining bit of wall with the gusto you did, I would have been afraid one good hit would have had the lot laying in the yard and you looking at the neighbours!
@6:15 I like how the camera is vibrating, it makes it appear as if the whole house is doing it, lmao. @14:02 holy crap, not much longer and it'd be a crawl shower :)
My favourite parts of your videos, and well, all home improvement shows, is when things are being demo'd and you hear "What the hell????" The greatest part of your vids is you actually show how you fixed things, where as on HGTV they just glance over it. It's like decorating shows. My favourite part is when they come in and redesign the house and it looks beautiful and they show the features of the room and I say to my wife, "I guess they didn't need a tv in their house with 4 kids" and the tv is nowhere to be seen.
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"usually i like it a bit tighter than that, hope it's not drippin" Lmao
A mobile home built in the 70s will be full of unexpected surprises. I know first hand from fixing my 1977 KB home. The subfloor is basically particle board which is probably the biggest issue. I wish I had completely gutted the entire place from the beginning instead of doing one room at time. The CPVC pipes absolutely should be replaced with copper or pex. It gets brittle and will fail spectacularly especially if you try to cap off or repair it in any way. Ask me how I know, lol! Just replace it all. Trust me! You may get lucky not replacing it but I wasn’t so fortunate.
You want to talk "in over my head", I'm just finishing up a 2 1/2 year build on my 5000 sf. house 6600 under roof. Contractors were scarce and unreliable, I had to either do it myself or watch them like a hawk. I'm doing my shower pans right now.
It has been our experience in our home that nothing goes as expected. We must always expect 2-4x the time we expected to take on a project. Thank heaven Home Depot is only a mile away!
I feel bad for your ears. I said, “I FEEL BAD FOR YOUR EARS!” Especially when you grabbed the Recip saw and started cutting in that echo chamber. Great videos. Stay safe and keep your faculties.
Got called out a few years back to a Mc Donald's restaurant with my pump truck because the refurb guys found that none of the plumbing for the sinks in the Kitchen area were connected to the pipework. Years of rotten food and fat had been dropping in to the crawl space below the floor. I had to get under there and jetwash it all out. Absolutely disgusting. Threw all my clothes away after and drove back across country in my skiddies.
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If you say OMG its got to be bad. St. Louis Missouri.❤ thx Jeff
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I helped with a flip this past winter/spring on a 100 year old house built on a crawl space. Half the floor joists were broken, there was no insulation in an addition, the grade of the backyard drained all rain and snow under the house, window sills were rotted, and not a single wall, floor, or ceiling was level or square in the place. It should have been torn down and had a new build, but the flipper was looking for a quick flip. It was a heck of a project, and most of the house is still unlevel, however it did end up selling, but the flipper lost about $90K.
Anyway, this made me realize I'd love to be a carpenter, plumber, and/or electrician.
I'm in south Florida. I need to redo a roof and enclose my patio to make a living room no clue how or where to start.
Wheres part 2 lol
This is a great example of a diy project. You start out with simple reno, turns into much more. Thank for sharing!
I hate to see plumbing work like that. At least I know you will do it right!!!
I was expecting it to be direct drain to the ground like another person discovered with their toilet 🚽 in Florida
Hey Mr Roger! Love your vids too. Watched your toolkit setup for < $400 the other day. Personally I hate seeing any plumbing bc as a handyman I’m not supposed to touch it. But sometimes we do what we’ve got to do.
I thought of you when he found that mess....What would Roger say and do? LOL
Cheers Roger! This was a real mess for sure. Next week I put it back together!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY great work as always Jeff. I can’t wait to see it!
When you're in the midst of a project dragging and not going well it's nice to see someone far more practiced than yourself having a bad time too. Surprises are fun.
Haha. I picked up lumber last night and left the hardware store around ten pm . Perfect timing for me. I rebuilt the stairs yesterday but I have other plans to redo the deck .
LOL, great to hear I'm not the only one. Thought I could re-popcorn a bathroom and replace 2 sheets of drywall this weekend. It's Sunday and I've only sprayed the ceiling today...
the only thing that Jeff is practiced in is being an incompetent sham
Look, been a home owner for 3 years now. Remodeled SO many things. If I NEVER have to do another remodel I’ll be so goll damn happy. And here you are doing it for a living. Props.
Just want to say i watched this last week and took possession of a place yesterday. I started to mess around in the bathroom and found a wet spot in the ceiling drywall. The video provided enough oversight for me not to get overwhelmed. Found the small leak in a bent copper pipe. The plumber is coming tomorrow to change it out. Good stuff!
Great job!
This is what I like. Doing a demo/remodel and stuff goes sideways. This is real life. No editing, no cut and paste. Just plain ol' "Oh crap, this is worse than I thought. Now what!"
Beat me to it, I was thinking the same thing! Thanks @homeRenovision DIY for always keeping it real on this channel
I agree. The old house I'm working on was a rental for years. What a mess! Even where someone came in to repair made it worse. There's more code violations than if a food inspector checked all the restaurants in NYC. This channel makes me feel, "Wow it's not just me. But I have an example of how to keep calm & deal with it."
This is when I'd start saying.....sheit..
Lol
Yes!
I know you're in a manufactured house there. I am dealing with the same 2x3 walls. I just finished the commode room because the toilet had no subfloor under it because of the way the last plumber sealed it. It looked exactly like under your shower. Fixing that toilet turned in to an entire remodel and watching your channel has helped me the whole way. Thank you!
This is by far my favorite video from you. Because of your self talk. I appreciate you.
Jeff, I gotta say it again, I'm so glad to see you working on an older manufactured home. Mine is a 1980 doublewide. I feel overwhelmed at times renovating ours but seeing your surprises being a professional gives me confidence to keep at it! Btw, I once heard someone say whoever built these things got paid by the staple lol Boy, are they right!!
I just tell myself that if those kinds of plumbers didn't exist then I'd be out of a job. Thank you for showing the real side of renovating.
Excellent problem solving, and explaining internal though process- shows resourcefulness and experience, great video
Glad you enjoyed it!
This kind of stuff has been the core lesson of all our remodeling efforts. We find it every time we do a project so we aren’t actually surprised anymore but we still feel the ripple effects of the shock we got when we removed the back “wall” of our masterbath shower to learn there was no wall- just the attic!😮
Carpenter from Quebec, Canada. Mostly do formworking. God I love your videos. Bought an old 1967 house 5 years ago and renovated all of it. Learnt so much through all this process. Your videos helped me quite a few times, especially for the bathroom part ! Keep up the videos I love them ! 👌👌👌
Just found the same thing in my mobile. Found the problem from underneath. Not ready to reno the shower, but the drain was not sealed and the subfloor is not well. Crawling under there tonight with a new much better drain assembly! NO MORE LEAKS!
I think every one should at least have a look!
I had plans to replace kitchen cabinets- after removal, mold on the drywall. Removed that, and found termite damage! It turned into a complete kitchen gut and renovation/ damage is repaired and it turned out great!
I feel ya on this one!
I think I actually just enjoy watching him work rather than doing it myself. 😂 I'm sure my shower is worse
It's all the guttural groans
LOL. Cheers!
Thanks to your videos I remodeled my entire bathroom DIY with subway tile walls and new floor. My house was built in 1961 and this was the kind lazy errors I ran into while doing the demolition. Leaking toilet rotted 1/3 of the planks and the previous refresh decided to tile around the vanity lol. The leaky toilet could have been easily avoided using a rubber toilet gasket because the house shifts so much.
The wallboard is called VOG Vinyl over gypsum. Still used in manufactured housing today.
I just tore apart a Florida single wide and it was worse than this. We supported the roof and re-did the whole thing, joists and all. The good thing it was placed on a concrete pad which really helped out.
Oh my god, I went through a similar issue. Thanks for making me feel like I am not alone in finding bad workmanship. keep up the great videos!
Got a Delta Monitor Lahara. The cartridge exploded during an unusual freeze in my area (it rarely gets below freezing where I live but it did that one winter). Sent them a photo, the info on when & where I bought it, the digital receipt, etc and they sent a new cartridge for free. My old trim kit was 3 knobs- hot, cold, & diverter for tub spout/shower. They were ugly. Now I have a single one that has dual function- small lever controls temp & larger one controls pressure. I can actually leave the temp at where I like it and move the pressure one when I turn on the shower.
I'm going to have to do something similar when removing an old avocado green one-piece shower/tub. Going to suck tearing it all out.
Looks like that wall needs some Killz! (I thought that as soon as I saw mold & before you mentioned it).
Oops, I purchased my fixtures first. LOL. Although, it worked out for my ensuite bathroom project.
Loved watching you rehinking the plan in real time, dude you're the best
Wow. Good to know!
I grew up in apartments in NYC, which were maintained by landlords and supers. Something went wrong, you called the landlord and it would get fixed. So, I never really knew what went on behind the walls. How was everything held together? Was it magic, or magnets? I never really gave it much thought. It always just _was._ It wasn’t until my father moved us out to the suburbs and into a peach-colored ranch that was built in 1965 that I learned.
After living in that house for 12 years, after my father and mother relocated to Florida, and after the pink-tiled bathroom began falling apart and the shower began leaking into the basement, I was fed up and put my foot through the wall and said, “Well, now I have to learn how to fix this.” Tearing apart that bathroom from rafters to joists, I finally learned what exists behind walls: someone else’s shitty work.
That was one of the best life lessons I have ever learned.
🤣🤣 pink, black and white and some green. 😅
So many surprises. I'm waiting to see how true the walls and corners are.
Oh how I wish you lived in the suburbs of Chicago. I was just quoted 10,000 for a 5x8 bath. That is with me still having to buy all fixtures, no tub removal, and pay out electric separately.
I am trying to soak up all this info to do it myself. I've been binge watching your A to Z bathroom remodel. Once I put the hammer to tile theres no turning back.
You can do it!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY your words to Gods ears. I just dont know where to start. Behind my shower wall is the fuse box on the other side. I really dont want an electrifying experience as I shower...hahaha
Thanks Jeff! I have the same problem with the 1940s house that we bought. The bathroom floor was all swelled up! Now I'm excites to see twaht you're going to do next.
see you next week! Cheers!
This video reminds me of when I went to install a waterline for my new fridge and as I was making my way drilling holes through the bottom of the cabinets and when I got to the dishwasher it was mush. I pulled the dishwasher out and discovered black mold. So, a simple water line install turned into a full kitchen remodel because the cabinets had to be removed and all the drywall to make sure all the mold was killed. I had to call in a remediation company which then turned into an asbestos remediation....
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It sounds like you were in the mood to listen to the people who said that you “should do something” or “should call someone”
Next time learning a little more will help tons in the handling of the next project. And also helping people who want to help you part with tons of cash finding your door to leave faster.
@@georgewelker853 what year did you buy your home?
2019
I like the vinyl drywall. And love the how thay Brad nail it in so we can repurpes it. But it is a pain to mud.
for sure.
Looks like my current project... My new house had a crack in the bathtub. I just completed demo and now pondering the new plan
Glad I'm not the only person finding water issues. I found a lot of water damage from a leaky washer hookup that wicked up from the floor, onto the wall 1/2 way up to the ceiling, and into the adjoining room. Lots of black mold, very fun... sadly it'll be an insurance claim.
OH! And I also had the same issue with the putty in the drain, but in my case it was caulk holding the drain down... that was a fun afternoon.
I love a guy with this much integrity and value for doing a good job
so many ways do do something right. on this job there was not even a remote sign of integrity!
Great video, I really appreciate that you guys don’t take shortcuts! I’m afraid my bathroom may have similar issues, plus the previous owners didn’t install the toilet correctly so the floor is sagging from water damage 🤦🏾♀️ I’d love to see a video where you demo an older house (100+ years) if you haven’t already - especially trying to navigate around possible asbestos and inconsistent studs 😅
He already renovated a 100 year+ old farm house. Not sure which channel the videos are on.
@@billm.8220 This channel....
Scope on my bathroom renovation kept increasing like this. Rotten subfloor, rotten top plate, notched-out corner post. Nothing like natural lessons in patience. 😂
This is the most real you can get with a project, and its becoming so much more common nowadays. 70s homes need love, and they're EVERYWHERE.
I'm living and working in my '73 modular right now and I've already replaced structural members for three windows on overhangs on a second floor. Water damage. Lived here for less than a year.
Jeff I'm sorry for the unexpected condition but it's such a good thing for others to see this. I run into unexpected things all the time in my 60yr old home and it drives me crazy. By the way where can one get that long screwdriver drill bit you have on your drill?
i like that too.
I love how you demo without safety glasses or gloves!
Right, saw zawing through fiberglass with no protection lol
Jeff, I can't stop laughing at your "Who's lying now?" comment! I would have a blast working with you. All these comments you make. Lovin' it!
“I’ve got to rethink a few things here”. The story of my life…. This video makes me feel great about my many diy projects.
Great video showing all the hidden extras 😂😂
Look's like one of my projects! Good to see ya have some snags because that's all I ever run into, as I learn on the go!
Great video Jeff. I have signed up at Ferguson plumbing as a general contractor for my home renovation. That’s why we have codes. With that being said I better get back outside and do some wooden fencing and some asphalt repair. Try to clear my driveway of lumber and sawdust. . Stay well Jeff and team . ❤
well done gerge! now you will get quality for less.
I've done a zillion of these jobs. Unstrapped plumbing is bothersome, but what.dumbfounds me the most is the corners cut on new construction.
Just watching you work and explain stuff is a whole new level of ASMR. LOL!
Glad you enjoy it!
think i did this same job in a house in Aurora ON back in the day the plumbing under the floor looks the same lol what a hot mess that was i cannot imagine how they were not having it rain down below this shower or it being really smelly
@Home RenoVision DIY 10:19 Jeff, this would be the 2nd drain in bathroom I’ve seen this week not connected. I had bathtub was removing & it wasn’t connected & that also explained somethings. The thing was siliconed, flex taped, etc all around drain but nobody decided to just connect the darn thing 🤦🏼.
I’d say I’m surprised, but more I did when 1st moved to FL 15 yrs ago, I was shocked at 1st by what saw…..today though, it’s the “norm”, lol 🤦🏼 ANS SAD THING, was brand new home, 6 months old, & it’s how the builder etc…left it and I the job of new construction; which young couples or 1st time buyers thinking getting turn-key no problem house, that passed inspection…..yep, they usually do; & this my opinion ppl, fyi.
Cheers✌🏻
I DO have one more fiberglass enclosure to replace someday, but I have semi-finished/garage space beneath, so hopefully I'd have noticed anything funky.
This was one of the most interesting videos posted recently on your channel. Looking forward to watching next one.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Looks like prefab. If you are having to cut the vinyl from going under walls, was probably a retrofit sometime since the original construction.
Perfect timing. I'm going to start on my bathroom next month.
way to go donna! Cheers!
Ha, I had the exact same "shower drain connected with nothing but gravity" issue in my downstairs bathroom....luckily, I hardly used it until the remodel. I'm almost envious of those workers achieving a level of laziness I did not think possible.
How about when your installing the tub suround but the holes are off. I ran into this when I didn't measure the mixing valve and spout properly. I dry fitted the back panel in and made a cardboard template and located the holes perfectly and then transfered to the side panel and the holes were 2 1/2" off from left to right. What I didn't know at the time was that the side panel did not slide in all the way and butt up to the back wall. Now I haveto try and relocate the the piping and cut new holes in the panel to make it work. I did try contacting the company to see if I could just buy the new panel and it was a no go. I searched youtube and didn't really find anything useful. The best I could come up with is using a remodeling ring to cover the hole when I move the spout over some. It won't be centered but better than it was. As for the ring, I ended up using a 1 1/2" washer that I primed and painted. A video on how you would approach this and fix it would no doubt be helpful. great work btw,I do get alot from your videos.
Always love watching your Videos !
Every problem encountered here was consistent with what I found on my manufactured home
You can buy a new trim kit for both Moen and Delta at the big box stores in the US
The other issue with moisture in bathrooms is that bathrooms dont have conditioned air as they dont have returns.The exchange is done with the exhaust fan! So in theory ,you would need to run your fan 24/7,which most are undersized from the start.
We've been in our 1942 1.5-2 story since last fall and the bathroom walls have streaks of water running down them if the AC has been run recently. Even closing the register as much as possible hasn't helped much as the condensation is beading on/near the register grill and where the duct rises up behind the wall. The house was bought renovated as a flip and with previous conversions and everything covered it's frustrating to not know what's actually hidden behind walls and what is a lurking disaster. What's weird is that most of the major work looks mostly decent to solidly professional, but finish details are either lacking or poorly done.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure the flippers either added the first/only exhaust fan ducting or at least replaced the exterior vent shutters and put in the cheapest 50 CFM from HD. I've tried taking cooler showers without recent AC but it hasn't improved much at all, so given I've never had these issues in other smaller rooms with the same flow exhausts, I'm thinking the may be a problem with the exhaust ducting flow. Our AC is working well, no indication of a evap condensate drain problem, but indoor humidity seems to have become a sudden issue with noticeable drink and bathroom condensation. We've had a lot of rain and humidity this summer but didn't really have any issues during wet periods in spring and early summer. Not really sure what to do but I think it's at least in part from hacked up HVAC duct work right above the bathroom register to the former attic(?) that's now a pretty big bedroom/den/loft. Apparently behind the built-in bookshelf and drawers is the only semi-accessable unfinished space with a few ducts and drain vent stack presumably. With a weird layout and several renovations over the years it's a mystery what's hidden and it seems maybe conditioned air is leaking in to some mostly empty interior wall cavities.
You may be over your budget, but you are not over your head. I have faith in you.
Cheers Joe!
"Of course nothing here is square" - had the same idea fixing up my house built in 1947. I'm a cnc machinist and seeing a couple cm difference in room width between one end and the other is shocking.
I LOVE this content sir, please keep on doing your thing, I've learned more here than anywhere. Found my love for DEWALT tools also as my brand 🙏🙏 God Bless and thank you for the phenomenal content
I've renovated seven houses all built before 1960. I'm not surprised by anything. Normally, really good bones but terrible remodeling through the years. It's very interesting to peel back the layers.
Welcome to Florida Jeff. I constantly have nightmares about the stuff I run into doing demo out here.
Cheers Tony. bad work is not geographical.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I don’t doubt that. I’m leaving the little island in Florida and traveling the country in a few months; excited to see different methods, materials, and adventures
Looking at the extra space you created, I think I would use it all for the shower. I’d leave the valve where it is, but move the shower head to the other side. And then I’d not install a door and just put up enough glass beside the vanity for splashes.
A friend was complaining to me the other day that his shower has a leak that no one seems to be able to find. I now find myself wondering if it's been done the same way 😞
There’s always a way to find leaks.
People must have taken really short showers!
@@RogerWakefieldHey it's the dude with the mustache 😊
@10:00 " Its not that bad, It could have been black and fuzzy". !! 11:35 "OH MY GOD!!!...... I am giggling in an anticipating way at that because I know YOU have just found a teaching project extraordinaire! Shivering black bell thumbs up!
learning lots on this trailer job for sure. Cheers!
Two things, Jeff, first: when you slid in the shower your back was probably a centimeter from ramming into the shower control valve pipe sticking out. Second: you are dealing with a trailer from the 70's. They were built so cheaply and crappy I'm not surprised with the problems. Anyone with money back then didn't live in them. In fact, in storms they went airborne with any large gust of wind. In a tornado you found them across town!😂😂
Oh lord. I had one of those shower stalls I tore out a few months ago. Total pain.
Can I just say, BTDT? I'll be watching as this unfolds. In my case it was a kitchen that my home inspector said had a loose tile in front of the sink cabinet. After closing, I went and looked under the tile, only to find a direct opening to the crawl space. An improper, leaking, dishwasher drain connection left me with floor joists that were only remaining in place by memory.
Welcome to Florida, the first rule of thumb when buying a house in Florida is, slab on grade due to the moisture problems. The second rule of thumb is make sure the inspector has looked hard for termites. I wish i could post a photo of what I found on my current remodeling project on my girlfriends house. The entire stud pack on one corner of the house was nothing but mud and toothpicks, 5 2x4's gone. Luckily they stopped at the top plate in that spot. They did get into one side of the 2x10 header on the porch.
we don't have those where I am from. Kinda wish i ran into some!
Lol . I was thinking the same thing about Florida humidity. The humidity in St louis Missouri rivals Acapulco, Houston and ant other cities and countries!
Everyone has a plan until they get punched 👊 in the face... Mike Tyson
wow that was a great plumer glad you cought it jeff....cant wait for the next video ...i think it would be great to enlarge the shower in that space now...
exactly what I was thinking
I love and appreciate all you do for us.
I bought a fixer upper last year and have replaced ALL the CPVC, I HATE CPVC!
Very good video, without fake fluff.
Same shit different day in bathroom remodels and we love it
Staples. Yes, it's not a stick built home, it's a double-wide manufactured home. They toss them together as quick and as light as they can which also explains the 1x you encounter.
Thanks Jeff, I am doing floor demo under my toilet! Pretty bad!!
I feel your pain!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY another mess, the joist was cut when the waste pipe was installed, so now more of the issue is structure
I remodeled my bathroom 2 years ago. the rot was bad. tile shower 50 years old. ever bit of wood from 4 ft and below was incredibly damp. How the floor never fell through, I have no idea
Sometimes you have to go to the right of that F around and find out chart.
Is this a modular or mobile home? Never seen a 1x3 stud used in any stick built home.
Yup, it is. Florida retirement at it's finest 😁
Normal pre-HUD mobile home construction. Two by four were not required until June 1976 when mobile homes officially became known as manufactured homes.
I noticed that too. I found that strange as well.
Having just remodeled a bathroom I feel your pain.
You are a brave man attacking that remaining bit of wall with the gusto you did, I would have been afraid one good hit would have had the lot laying in the yard and you looking at the neighbours!
@6:15 I like how the camera is vibrating, it makes it appear as if the whole house is doing it, lmao. @14:02 holy crap, not much longer and it'd be a crawl shower :)
My favourite parts of your videos, and well, all home improvement shows, is when things are being demo'd and you hear "What the hell????" The greatest part of your vids is you actually show how you fixed things, where as on HGTV they just glance over it. It's like decorating shows. My favourite part is when they come in and redesign the house and it looks beautiful and they show the features of the room and I say to my wife, "I guess they didn't need a tv in their house with 4 kids" and the tv is nowhere to be seen.
"usually i like it a bit tighter than that, hope it's not drippin"
Lmao
My Townhouse had a leak the exact same way and it was only 9 years old.
Thanks for keeping this real
the amount of of Robertson screws in this Florida Demo is impressive!
A mobile home built in the 70s will be full of unexpected surprises. I know first hand from fixing my 1977 KB home. The subfloor is basically particle board which is probably the biggest issue. I wish I had completely gutted the entire place from the beginning instead of doing one room at time. The CPVC pipes absolutely should be replaced with copper or pex. It gets brittle and will fail spectacularly especially if you try to cap off or repair it in any way. Ask me how I know, lol! Just replace it all. Trust me! You may get lucky not replacing it but I wasn’t so fortunate.
You want to talk "in over my head", I'm just finishing up a 2 1/2 year build on my 5000 sf. house 6600 under roof. Contractors were scarce and unreliable, I had to either do it myself or watch them like a hawk. I'm doing my shower pans right now.
Is that one of those "floating foors" I keep hearing about?
It has been our experience in our home that nothing goes as expected. We must always expect 2-4x the time we expected to take on a project. Thank heaven Home Depot is only a mile away!
nice!
Thanks you for these. videos! Just one concern. Where are your safety glasses??? I will worry about you 😮.
I feel bad for your ears. I said, “I FEEL BAD FOR YOUR EARS!” Especially when you grabbed the Recip saw and started cutting in that echo chamber. Great videos. Stay safe and keep your faculties.
I can not wait for the next episode of this bathroom.
videos every Saturday. Cheers!
I once pulled up a shower pan to find that the 2" drain was just loosely set over a 3" pipe without any kind of mechanical seal!
ok thanks for the jaww tip on the plier
Honestly it's a wonder nobody went through that shower pan over the years given it had no actual floor below it
just a single joist carrying the occupant.
Hilarious Jeff. I am so glad I’m not alone embarking on a project where I just get stopped cold and have to think about what just took place.
It happens. next week we show the how to move forward part!
Got called out a few years back to a Mc Donald's restaurant with my pump truck because the refurb guys found that none of the plumbing for the sinks in the Kitchen area were connected to the pipework. Years of rotten food and fat had been dropping in to the crawl space below the floor. I had to get under there and jetwash it all out. Absolutely disgusting. Threw all my clothes away after and drove back across country in my skiddies.