Why The 1970-1973 Pontiac Firebird Formula Is The Most Forgotten Golden Era Performance Car

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  • The 1970-1973 Pontiac Firebird Formula was one of the great performance cars of the Golden Era. Find out why this great car is so overlooked.
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  • @clevlandblock
    @clevlandblock Місяць тому +115

    Back in the spring of 72 I ordered (courtesy of my parents) a new 72 Formula 400. The agreement was for me to order a 350 2 barrel as a college car. Naturally, I instead ordered a Formula 400 in a burnt orange with honeycombs. The order got cancelled by the dealer a few weeks later due to the factory strike. That October I ordered a 73 TA 455, having been told that the SD-455 was on indefinite hold. Drove that car for four years then bought a low mile 74 TA 4 speed SD-455 in 1978. I still have that car, now with 14k miles.

    • @danam0228
      @danam0228 Місяць тому +5

      😱

    • @wydopnthrtl
      @wydopnthrtl Місяць тому +4

      @@danam0228 Very cool!

    • @davidbolt5113
      @davidbolt5113 Місяць тому

      Love that car

    • @stephenholland5930
      @stephenholland5930 Місяць тому +1

      You've only driven the '74 TA 10,000 miles in 46 years? Doesn't seem many.

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion Місяць тому +2

      How many of those 14,000 miles are from smoking the rear tires? 😂

  • @JustK009
    @JustK009 Місяць тому +71

    When America built REAL cars

    • @Tony_417
      @Tony_417 Місяць тому +5

      Have you seen the mustangs, Camaros, and challengers of the last 10 years Forrest Gump? I would call those REAL cars with record breaking horsepower numbers. Such an ignorant comment founded in none sense. I’m sure you’re very proud of your 40 year old firebird parked outside your doublewide trailer. But the muscle cars of the last 10 years are amazing technological marvels.

    • @sidefx996
      @sidefx996 Місяць тому +6

      @@Tony_417 sure the performance of the newer cars is better, but the styling and the entire image is completely based on the older cars you just knocked. The originals were just that & weren’t trying to be something they weren’t.

    • @sidefx996
      @sidefx996 Місяць тому +6

      @@Tony_417 and apparently you’ve been living under a rock because you haven’t seen the prices of these Firebirds lately. None of them are parked outside a double wide Einstein.

    • @appleiphone69
      @appleiphone69 Місяць тому

      My S550 Mustang has great styling and performs as both a muscle car and sports car. 460 HP and cooled seats.

    • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
      @user-qr7ee2cp4y 21 день тому

      @@appleiphone69 given the performance of these new cars, I'm amazed that so many are paying so much for the run of the mill turds of the 60s and 70's....

  • @HerbLarge
    @HerbLarge Місяць тому +17

    I’m lucky enough to have a 71 ram air ho 455 4 speed car with all of its factory drivetrain still in it. It is fun to drive!

  • @justinwhite9689
    @justinwhite9689 Місяць тому +29

    The twin scoops were so cool

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 Місяць тому

      Till it rained

    • @mikee2923
      @mikee2923 Місяць тому +2

      Yup. I actually like the twin snorkel scoops better than the T/A shaker.

  • @blainesnider9089
    @blainesnider9089 Місяць тому +23

    I still have my 70 formula400

  • @thepassionofthegoose5472
    @thepassionofthegoose5472 Місяць тому +22

    When I was a child my dad had a 70 Formula 400 in granada gold, and an 87 Formula with a 305 TIP in silver when I was a teen. Needless to say he was a Firebird guy.

  • @gmoney1592
    @gmoney1592 Місяць тому +64

    Man do I miss Pontiacs.

    • @majesticfirebird2310
      @majesticfirebird2310 Місяць тому +3

      Gone but not forgotten, thanks to media like Smokey & The Bandit, Knight Rider and, more recently, I Don't Feel At Home In This World Anymore.

    • @joshuagibson2520
      @joshuagibson2520 Місяць тому +4

      Yes. Even 90s ones.

    • @OspreyFlyer
      @OspreyFlyer Місяць тому +2

      Yeah same, my wife and I had some Pontiacs: Trans Am, Sunbird, Grand Am.

    • @formula73
      @formula73 Місяць тому +4

      I bought a 73 Formula when I was a junior sailor back in 2001. Still have it.

    • @gmoney1592
      @gmoney1592 Місяць тому

      @@formula73 Nice man. Great car I love that year and style .

  • @ronb493
    @ronb493 Місяць тому +24

    One of my favorites as a kid. Brings back memories.

  • @joedoyle7799
    @joedoyle7799 Місяць тому +10

    Back in 1980 my parents were looking for a new car for my dad, they brought several test drives to the house, mostly GMG bodies until my dad pulled up in a Firebird formula 301 turbo. I didn’t believe him when he said he bought it but he did and it’s still in our family today. 10 years of fighting with a turbo he had put in a custom built 400 with a 400 transmission, it’s a Family heirloom

  • @lancairw867
    @lancairw867 Місяць тому +13

    Memories. In the early 80s my teen neighbor had a 72 Formula Firebird 🐦‍🔥. I remember my 13 year old self being pushed back in the seat and see the hood rise as he did a pull. Awesome 😎 his dad was high up at Comp Cams in Memphis.

  • @m1a1hm
    @m1a1hm Місяць тому +26

    I think the 70 to 73 Firebirds are the best looking firebirds made I got a 71 Firebird Formula 400 .

    • @danmyers9372
      @danmyers9372 Місяць тому

      Agreed and almost impossible to find these days.

    • @m1a1hm
      @m1a1hm Місяць тому

      @@danmyers9372 Your right they are hard to find well a least around where I live as a kid in the 80s there were only two guys I knew who these year model firebirds and the 71 Firebird I got came from California

  • @EvanBarr-uk3vk
    @EvanBarr-uk3vk Місяць тому +13

    1973 formula sd looks so clean

  • @Plombo_5
    @Plombo_5 Місяць тому +17

    Those were the days

  • @jerryleejohnsonjr1377
    @jerryleejohnsonjr1377 Місяць тому +7

    My first car was a 73 Firebird that I paid 800 bucks for in 1982 before I even had a drivers license, I still dream of having that same model again.

  • @luisvelasco316
    @luisvelasco316 Місяць тому +7

    I always liked Panch's Formula on the show "Chips" which had the dual Formula hood scoops together with a Trans Am shaker scoop.

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 Місяць тому

      All 3...? Wow

  • @csumme7
    @csumme7 Місяць тому +5

    A friend of mine in high school had a blue 71 Formula. It was a great looking sports car from the 70s.

  • @mikemc330
    @mikemc330 Місяць тому +15

    I didn’t forget about them. I love the look of those beautiful cars!

    • @warrenny
      @warrenny Місяць тому

      No one who actually is a car person has forgotten them. It's just a marketing tool for UA-camrs to get clicks.

  • @gt-37guy6
    @gt-37guy6 Місяць тому +8

    I spent a fair amount of time in a 71 Formula, Black with white stripes and 3 speed manual - high school buddy's car. It was not a quarter miler, but holy cats it was fun to ride on curvy roads at say 120 - 130 mph! Very impressive handling compared to the basic cars of the day, and very good brakes. I have to this day not seen another 350 3 speed manual Formula - but I know they are around.

  • @bobc8649
    @bobc8649 Місяць тому +4

    Always wanted a 71-73 Formula with a 455 SD. Add the twin scoop hood with ram air ! Owned a 69 GTO 400/ 355 hp so I got the whole Pontiac vibe.

  • @landiahillfarm6590
    @landiahillfarm6590 Місяць тому +4

    '71-'73 Formula's are IMHO one of the best looking musclecars of all time. Sadly I never owned one, but I did have a '70 GTO so I totally get it!

  • @Paulie1232
    @Paulie1232 Місяць тому +7

    I own a firebird and I loved it...beautiful car 🚗 😊

  • @69Applekrate
    @69Applekrate Місяць тому +19

    nicely done. not sure if you were clear but, in 1970, all Formulas had 400 engines. The rear spoiler and 350 and 455 engines became avail for 1971.

  • @905cavillac2
    @905cavillac2 Місяць тому +4

    That's funny this came across my feed as yesterday I seen a 70 Formula fully restored in a champagne color, absolutely stunning car and very underrated, but I love me a good Formula Firebird✌️

  • @mikeks8181
    @mikeks8181 6 днів тому +1

    I owened a 1975 Firebird Formula that I bought as my first car in 1982. It was underneath set up for rally racing! The gears would only let It get up to about 100 but That Silver Bird Would Turn on a Dime No matter the speed! I Miss it so much!

  • @scotsiegel35
    @scotsiegel35 Місяць тому +4

    I had a 70 formula 400 with 330 hp.stock growing up in 71 and 72 my Jr and Sr high school year's. I could blow away 396 Camero's, no problem It was the fastest car I ever owned in my life. Oh yeah it had a 4 speed with a Hurst T shifter. What a great car.

  • @BCaldwell
    @BCaldwell Місяць тому +12

    Thanks for continuing to make these videos Sir 👌

  • @georgewilson1184
    @georgewilson1184 Місяць тому +20

    Actor James Garner portraying low budget ex convict frugal Private Detective James Rockford drove Firebird Esprit but because he really enjoyed driving and doing his own stunt work his firebirds were actually Formulas badged as Edprits LOL

    • @RivetGardener
      @RivetGardener Місяць тому +2

      His car is a classic. And those J turns he did!

    • @georgewilson1184
      @georgewilson1184 Місяць тому +4

      @@RivetGardener well I said low budget maybe not his standard fee $200 daily plus expenses 😆 that may be cheap now but back in the 1970s that was a hefty fee

    • @ONTHEEDGEFRED
      @ONTHEEDGEFRED 17 днів тому

      ​@@georgewilson1184yeah that was pretty good money back then, considering I worked all week for $50 less than one day of his salary . I made 375 per hour which comes out to $150 a week before taxes

    • @will7its
      @will7its 16 днів тому +1

      Yeah he drove the secretary version.....lol

    • @1990notch
      @1990notch 6 днів тому +1

      My favorite show of that time.

  • @benniebarrow348
    @benniebarrow348 Місяць тому +2

    My favorite classics ......1970-1976 Pontiac firebird and 1970-1973 Camaro. Gorgeous cars no doubt.

  • @braddietzmusic2429
    @braddietzmusic2429 Місяць тому +12

    I just like these Firebirds in these 3 year a bit more than Camaros of the same years. I never get tired of looking at them.

  • @767driver
    @767driver Місяць тому +1

    My Dad had a 72 Lemans. A great car, kept it 20 years with no major mechanical issues.

  • @jaydcs6298
    @jaydcs6298 Місяць тому +7

    Those hood scoops made the car.

  • @brandonpetchnick1182
    @brandonpetchnick1182 Місяць тому +6

    I asked for this one some time ago. No idea if you saw the request. It's awesome. I absolutely love your channel.😊

  • @chadkimmel8957
    @chadkimmel8957 Місяць тому +1

    These are my favorite years for Firebirds.

  • @allanbacon2977
    @allanbacon2977 Місяць тому +5

    Was my favorite car 🐦‍🔥

  • @jackduguid177
    @jackduguid177 Місяць тому +4

    I had a new white/blue
    1972 Trans Am..
    I traded in my ‘66 GTO..
    Wish I had kept
    them both..

  • @KevinSan88
    @KevinSan88 Місяць тому +2

    The early nose with the twin hood scoops, is my favorite front end of the 2nd gen ‘birds

  • @IowaBudgetRCBashers
    @IowaBudgetRCBashers Місяць тому +5

    SD455 is one of the awesomest cars ever created

  • @Litt646
    @Litt646 Місяць тому +1

    I had a 73, loved that car!

  • @billmcmurtrie1142
    @billmcmurtrie1142 14 днів тому +1

    I'd love to have a '71 Formula 400 Firebird. Best looking Firebird ever.

  • @misterenergy959
    @misterenergy959 Місяць тому +1

    Nothing can put me to sleep like a good OCM video….. keep them coming !

  • @peterbedrosian622
    @peterbedrosian622 Місяць тому +5

    great video

  • @weekendgarage3299
    @weekendgarage3299 Місяць тому +2

    Pontiac made some iconic cars!

  • @mikee2923
    @mikee2923 Місяць тому +1

    70-73 Formula is my all time favorite. Especially when equipped with the 455. With the 73 SD as the holy grail.

  • @johnhull6363
    @johnhull6363 Місяць тому +3

    Nailed it with this one. Being younger, I had a 91 formula 5.7L bought new

  • @madmike2624
    @madmike2624 Місяць тому +5

    This content is so fantastic!!, facts to back it up is even better!! Keep up the most interesting and fact filled channel!!`!Bravo !~!

  • @teddyghioto
    @teddyghioto Місяць тому +1

    I have had lots of firebirds and trans ams lemans and even a fiero with a 350 in it over the years..Right now i have a 83 grand prix 350 in it a 96 firebird formula lt 1 and a 97 firebird v 6...LOVE MY PONTIACS...

  • @danmyers9372
    @danmyers9372 Місяць тому +1

    Had a high school buddy who bought a used 1971 or 72 Formula 455 around 1974. That car was really impressive. Great power (torque) and it handled better than pretty much any muscle car of that era. I had a 1970 Mach 1 351 and the Firebird beat my Mustang in pretty much every way imaginable. Out of curiosity I occasionally check the used market for these cars and rarely do I find one. Decent examples seem to be extremely rare especially given how many were produced.

  • @michaelsimmons261
    @michaelsimmons261 Місяць тому +3

    Aaa the good Old days 😊

  • @jamescunningham4180
    @jamescunningham4180 Місяць тому +1

    I took my driver's test in my mom's formula 400 firebird 1974 recommended premium no pollution. Back window didn't drop yet!! Gold very fast 🇺🇸🏁🏁😊

  • @danbaumann8273
    @danbaumann8273 Місяць тому +5

    Love those hoods. Liked them even more than the T/As shaker. So, if I understood everything correctly the Formula was basically equal to a T/A if so equipped and the only difference would be trim and graphics. Great video.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 Місяць тому +1

      @@FranzAntonMesmer Yeah, the 442s were pretty cool.

    • @cmte.brazinazzo2061
      @cmte.brazinazzo2061 Місяць тому +1

      Instrument Panel didn't had the metal finish, even if you wanted, I believe.

    • @danbaumann8273
      @danbaumann8273 Місяць тому +3

      @@cmte.brazinazzo2061 Yes, the metal dash was only in the T/A, you couldn't gey it in the Fornula.

  • @jimsteele2072
    @jimsteele2072 Місяць тому +1

    I agree, my buddy back in like 1978 had a 71 formula 400, black with tan interior, cragars, I wished that was my car ...
    I had a 68 Sattellite , still was badass

  • @cva1122
    @cva1122 Місяць тому +2

    Keep them coming. I look forward to each and every one.
    When I load UA-cam, if you have a new video, it's the first one I click. Everytime.

  • @trent1984
    @trent1984 26 днів тому +1

    My favorite muscle car ever

  • @carlc5748
    @carlc5748 Місяць тому +3

    John De Lorean looked to Ferrari to help design the 1970 Firebird. it was supposed to be exclusive for Pontiac. GM people insisted that the camaro get the same design, or the Pontiac design would get the proverbial axe. My cousin has a 1970 Firebird, and told me this little known background story.

  • @chris.swearengin
    @chris.swearengin Місяць тому +3

    I do like the trans am, but the firebird I would take the second gen. That would be my favorite out of the first two. I do like the videos. Please share more of them take care.

  • @blackscotydog
    @blackscotydog Місяць тому +4

    RIP Pontiac.......

    • @JTA1961
      @JTA1961 Місяць тому

      Well said

  • @kencooper2059
    @kencooper2059 Місяць тому +1

    Beautiful cars!

  • @goodbonezz1289
    @goodbonezz1289 Місяць тому +1

    Early second generation Firebirds and Trans Ams would be the main reason why I’d want a time machine…

  • @user-ju8ss7wo5r
    @user-ju8ss7wo5r Місяць тому +1

    I bought a '72 red formula 350 summer of '79. It came with a junkyard receipt for the replacement engine, said: '73 pontiac 400. A year later, while replacing the fuel pump I discovered it was a 455. To this day, I think it may have been a SD. At 6 K rpms it still had torque. Paid $300 for it!

  • @V8AmericanMuscleCar
    @V8AmericanMuscleCar Місяць тому +2

    I have 88 Trans Am GTA and I love it but I would like to have one of early 70s too.

  • @HypocriticYT
    @HypocriticYT Місяць тому +1

    My aunt had a white one with all the performance options. I was a couple years too young to buy it when she sold it and in mint condition 😮

  • @WaltANelsonPHD
    @WaltANelsonPHD Місяць тому +1

    I look forward to your posts. Thanks!

  • @josephcameron530
    @josephcameron530 Місяць тому +1

    Excellent presentation. Awesome cars!

  • @georgeford6439
    @georgeford6439 Місяць тому +1

    My fave years of TA/FB.....

  • @dannywilsher4165
    @dannywilsher4165 Місяць тому +1

    I had a white 73 SD 455 Trans Am. Regrets still run deep for selling it!!!!!

  • @pinchnloaf
    @pinchnloaf Місяць тому +1

    Love these cars. And that’s how I feel about my LT1 Camaro. You get the SS drivetrain but can option it sleek and light

  • @JackF99
    @JackF99 Місяць тому +2

    I'm a Mustang guy but IMO the 70-73 Firebird Formula was the best looking Pony Car of all time.

  • @darrellsaunders4267
    @darrellsaunders4267 Місяць тому +1

    A guy I ran around with in high school got a 70 Trans Am brand new...white with blue stripe. 5700.00 plus change.
    I had A 68 Firebird 400....I could keep up with him neck and neck to 100mph. He had it up to 157 mph one night and it still had room.

  • @user-ui8or8cq7l
    @user-ui8or8cq7l Місяць тому +3

    I only wish the 70-73 had the T/A front fender vents.

  • @bryanmchugh1307
    @bryanmchugh1307 Місяць тому +1

    My first car was a 1976 red Camaro. It was a nice car.

  • @vandalorianvandalorian4769
    @vandalorianvandalorian4769 Місяць тому +1

    I had a ‘70 Formula 400!
    That sucker was FAST!
    I miss it so much!

  • @midnightsun2483
    @midnightsun2483 Місяць тому +1

    I always liked the formulas

  • @johngranato2673
    @johngranato2673 Місяць тому +1

    I nearly bought a used 72, with the hood scoops. However, I was short $60, So, I asked my dad for a loan, but he didn't have the money. So, I bought a 73 Buick Century. Oh, well. Fifteen years later, I was able to buy a 68 GT 350 Fastback. I still love the Pontiac, though.

  • @manddservice.manddservice
    @manddservice.manddservice 9 днів тому +1

    Great Video

  • @excelerater
    @excelerater Місяць тому +1

    love these ,455

  • @CarsandCats
    @CarsandCats Місяць тому +1

    Flush mount side markers really cleaned up the car over the Camaro.

  • @trainglen22
    @trainglen22 Місяць тому +1

    Gorgeous cars! I wish that the GM motor company didn't make the Corvette the car that no other car built by Chevrolet or Pontiac couldn't be faster.

  • @danam0228
    @danam0228 Місяць тому +2

    Spot on mon ami

  • @seththomas9105
    @seththomas9105 Місяць тому

    I had the luck to own a 73 Z/28 LT/RS back in the 80's. LOVED that car, but I always thought the Poncho's were better looking. And the Formula's set up right were a running, gunning SOB. The Ram Air Hood was Probably the best cold air induction ever on a factory GM car.
    When I win the lottery... LOL.

  • @SierraBravo347
    @SierraBravo347 Місяць тому +6

    Now we're tawkin....

  • @shayzayit
    @shayzayit Місяць тому

    ❤Pure art ❤

  • @smellsuperb1
    @smellsuperb1 Місяць тому +1

    Absolutely not forgotten, this was the best of the second generation, especially '70-'71.
    1970 (year i was Born) is not coincidentally the best year of muscle cars across the board. '72-'72 isn't bad either but those had reduced compression and the beginning of emissions restrictions.

  • @bobdavis3357
    @bobdavis3357 Місяць тому

    I want a 72 T/A 455 H.O. Car ran mid 13s stock, 13.5 @105 with the automatic TH400

  • @gunsbeersmemes
    @gunsbeersmemes Місяць тому +3

    Can you do the G-Body Grand Prix GT?

  • @thunderray1987
    @thunderray1987 Місяць тому +1

    The best-looking Firebird is still the '79-'81!! I would take a '79 Firebird Formula 400 or a T/A, either one.

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u Місяць тому +2

    I've always preferred the Formula over the Trans Am; it had cleaner styling, and was a much better performance bargain

  • @MrWill73
    @MrWill73 Місяць тому

    Definitely one of the most underrated and unrecognized muscle car. Strongest engines with no excess weight and had only what you needed. Slimed down prized fighter. Optioned correctly, it was a mid 13 second car totally stock. Blew away the Road Runner and beat it at its own concept.

  • @MrJohnnyDistortion
    @MrJohnnyDistortion Місяць тому +1

    Best Formula & T/A body style and nose. A jet intake nose.👍🏼

  • @michaelcoffey7362
    @michaelcoffey7362 Місяць тому

    Nice 😊

  • @ceejay960
    @ceejay960 Місяць тому

    Really rare cars these days, probably because so many have been converted to a Trans Am, since for so many years that's what most collectors wanted.

  • @charlesdiggs5297
    @charlesdiggs5297 Місяць тому +1

    I love the coverage, but you neglect to mention that the 1970 strike cut production.But this was john delorean's best work at gm

  • @buckshot6481
    @buckshot6481 Місяць тому

    The best thing Pontiac ever built next to the GTO.

  • @CarsandCats
    @CarsandCats Місяць тому +2

    The gap on the front bumper valance drives me nuts! They could have done MUCH better than that.

  • @The_R-n-I_Guy
    @The_R-n-I_Guy Місяць тому +1

    Love GM cars before the 5mph bumper standards

  • @westhavenor9513
    @westhavenor9513 Місяць тому +1

    You should probably clarify that the HP ratings after 1971 are net, rather than gross

  • @mikyl-fo8rh
    @mikyl-fo8rh Місяць тому

    Then came the rectangular headlights 😖
    What surprises me is the industries' tardiness in providing 4-speed automatics especially given their other technological gymnastics to improve fuel economy and performance in the 70s.

    • @davesmith9684
      @davesmith9684 Місяць тому

      meh.. nationwide speed limit was still 55mph. It was cheaper to go with numerically lower rear gears

  • @kc0lif
    @kc0lif Місяць тому +2

    i like the 2nd generation. i like 455 ho.

  • @user-ui8or8cq7l
    @user-ui8or8cq7l Місяць тому +2

    GM missed the boat in the 2010s and 2020s by keeping the name alive in offering Camaro buyers a limited production choice for for a Trans Am or Firebird.

    • @majesticfirebird2310
      @majesticfirebird2310 Місяць тому +1

      Pretty sure there's a company out there that offers unofficial Trans-Am body kits for 5th gen Camaro's.

    • @user-ui8or8cq7l
      @user-ui8or8cq7l Місяць тому +2

      @@majesticfirebird2310 there is (or was). I mean factory produced, limited run. Same for Stellantis and the 'Cuda.

  • @ShadeTree_RC
    @ShadeTree_RC Місяць тому +4

    notification gang in da house 😁

  • @troynov1965
    @troynov1965 Місяць тому +2

    I always loved the Pontiac TA from the movie McQ with John Wayne. It did not have that silly screaming chicken on it.

    • @richardkaltenbach3961
      @richardkaltenbach3961 Місяць тому

      Also 1981's AN EYE FOR AN EYE With CHUCK NORRIS!!

    • @sidefx996
      @sidefx996 Місяць тому +1

      His didn’t but it was an option in ‘73.