****1 Corinthians 15:11**** "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." One word "WE" destroys the Mid-Acts Dispensationalist position, which asserts that the gospel preached by Paul was distinct from that preached by Peter and the other apostles. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists believe that Peter and the apostles preached a "gospel of the kingdom" to Israel, while Paul preached a "gospel of grace" to the Gentiles, suggesting two separate messages. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 provides a clear statement of unity in the preaching of both Paul and the other apostles, implying that they proclaimed the same gospel. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that Paul’s gospel (often termed "the gospel of the grace of God") is distinct from the gospel Peter and the others preached. They suggest that Peter’s gospel focused on the kingdom for Israel, while Paul’s message was about grace and justification by faith for the Gentiles. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 directly challenges this view: Paul states that both he and the other apostles preached the same gospel, which resulted in the faith of the Corinthians. This clearly implies a shared message rather than two separate or distinct gospels. If Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels, it would be odd for Paul to conclude his argument by saying "whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." The use of "we" unites Paul with the other apostles in the act of preaching the same gospel.
@@UponaROCKExactly. To assert that there are multiple gospels opposes the teaching of Scripture. The verse you quoted (1 Corinthians 15:11) is an explicit statement by the apostle that they all preached the same gospel.
@@matthewsouthwell3500 Thanks for the comment. We both know that Mid Acts Dispensationalism is a doctrine of devils that distorts the clear teaching of Scripture, leads to confusion and division, and exalts human intellect and pride over the simplicity of the Gospel. Those who embrace this false doctrine are willfully rejecting the truth, opening themselves up to deeper spiritual deception. As believers, we must remain vigilant and grounded in the Word of God. The Bible warns us to "prove all things" and to "hold fast that which is good" (1 Thessalonians 5:21). We must test every doctrine against the full counsel of Scripture and reject any teaching that does not align with the truth of God’s Word. Mid Acts Dispensationalism, for all its claims of being "biblical," does not pass that test.
How did the jews properly worship the LORD, (according to lv16) after returning from exile, specifically on the day of atonement when, for many scholars, there was no Arc of the covenant
I think for God it always was a matter of heart. He KNOWS when sth is lacking (on purpose) and TODAY we don't look back on Jewish customs and tradition.
@@robusc4940 I refer to the error of the Scofield Dispensationalists in proposing a division in the people of God. God has one people, one Israel, the Church.
@@anselman3156Grace Ambass are 'midacts', I don't think Scofield was. There are many 'churches' throughout the OT & NT. The current 'church' is the Body of Christ and Gal 3:28, Col 3:11, 1 Cor 12:13 applies to anyone who places their faith/trust in the Gospel 1 Cor 15:1-4 death/burial/resurrection of Christ for JUSTIFICATION.
Most people totally misuse the idiom "rightly dividing the word." To rightly divide was a farming term. When a farmer needed to plow through new or tough ground, he would sight an object in the distance. The object had to be known, sure, and unmoving. As he plowed through each row, he made sure that what he was doing *lined up* with what he knew to be solid and sure. When we encounter new or difficult passages, we must make sure that our understanding LINES UP with the parts that we already know and are clear and sure. Never did it mean to split the Bible into "ours and theirs." God does *not* divide his followers into a caste system!
Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter; These are different gospels. It's not a caste system because the Jews can also recieve grace from the gospel of the uncircumcision, it's just that for a time the gospel of the circumcision was also available to those awaiting the OT prophesy and/or were followers of John the Baptist, Acts 19 shows this take place when Paul baptizes two of John's people into the gospel of the circumcision.
Read it carefully. He is NOT saying that there is a "Circumcision Gospel!" That is an absurd idea! He is saying that HE (Paul) was called to preach THE GOSPEL to the uncircumcised people, that is, gentiles. While other are called to preach THE GOSPEL to those who were circumcised (Jews.)
@@DianaSzucs-jv7yo The gospel of the kingdom and Paul's "mystery" gospel of grace are these two gospels and if you were to carefully read Acts you would see the disciples instructing believers to sell everything they owned and to live with them together as followers: (Acts 2:44-45) "And all that believed were together, and had all things common; {45} And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need." These were Israelites who were living in Israel under the law, and who have sold their possessions to travel and be instructed by the apostles of Christ. Completely different circumstances and requirements as a believer than a Christian experiences.
@@Daiyve Gospel means "good news." The Gospel taught in the OT was the Good News that those who were faithful to their God (faithfulness which is brought about by FAITH in YHVH/ I AM) would be resurrected on the last day to reign forever on a redeemed and perfected earth with their Messiah as KING. The gospel of the NT is that the Messiah came, the gentiles were grafted into the Congregation of the Elect (Ekklesia) and if they lived by faith in YHVH/I AM they would be resurrected on the last day to reign forever on a perfected. renewed earth with their savior. The Gospel of the kingdom is the Good News that there will be an eternal kingdom of perfection to those who receive their Messiah through FAITH by looking BACK to his sacrifice and forward to his coming. The Gospel for the Jews was the Good News that they would inherit the land of promise to those who belong to their Messiah through faith by looking forward to his coming.
@@DianaSzucs-jv7yo You left out the part where Daniel's 70 weeks had 7 years left, the tribulation, when Stephen was stoned, and then instead of that beginning Jesus appeared to Paul and we've had 2000 years of grace, and waiting for the rapture and tribulation period to begin. When you include that very important information from the OT, then you must become a dispensationalist to account for the Daniels 70 weeks not yet being fulfilled, not until the fullness of the gentiles.
Paul also wrote to Timothy "not to lay hands on quickly" (i.e. identify someone as a brother in Christ 1Tim5:22) and to "stay away from" people that show every feature of 2Tim3:1-7. He doesn't count THEM brothers but unbelievers, nominal Christians, false brethren. There's a LOT Paul has to say about those and he doesn't count them into the true Body of Christ apparently.
Regarding 2 tim 3:1-7 , we need to consider circumcision in Christ are teachers too: “For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:” Titus 1:10 KJV
*****1 Corinthians 15:11***** "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." One word "WE" destroys the Mid-Acts Dispensationalist position, which asserts that the gospel preached by Paul was distinct from that preached by Peter and the other apostles. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists believe that Peter and the apostles preached a "gospel of the kingdom" to Israel, while Paul preached a "gospel of grace" to the Gentiles, suggesting two separate messages. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 provides a clear statement of unity in the preaching of both Paul and the other apostles, implying that they proclaimed the same gospel. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that Paul’s gospel (often termed "the gospel of the grace of God") is distinct from the gospel Peter and the others preached. They suggest that Peter’s gospel focused on the kingdom for Israel, while Paul’s message was about grace and justification by faith for the Gentiles. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 directly challenges this view: Paul states that both he and the other apostles preached the same gospel, which resulted in the faith of the Corinthians. This clearly implies a shared message rather than two separate or distinct gospels. If Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels, it would be odd for Paul to conclude his argument by saying "whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." The use of "we" unites Paul with the other apostles in the act of preaching the same gospel.
@@UponaROCK you mean Paul’s gospel is also waiting for the great tribulation like that of Peter: “And I will shew wonders in heaven above, And signs in the earth beneath; Blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:” Acts 2:19 KJV
@@UponaROCK I do myself support Mid-Acts as a historical "cesura" but YES you're totally right with regards to DOCTRINAL teaching which doesn't conflict Paul with Peter or the other apostles at all (one is a historical matter, other is doctrinal). Logically speaking (and Justin seems to be a logical guy too), "WE" would then have to assume that Pauls epistles are NOT valid for any "Ex-Jewish" believer if there's a controversy vice versa. Makes no sense at all. I would call that "hyper Mid-Acts" which is also false like any "hyper" teaching. If you "hyper divide" scripture you will get a mash of some kind but not find better understanding. MARANATHA, greetings from Germany! 🙏❤️
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER Greetings from Savannah, GA and thanks for the reply. Please explain the idea that a historical shift (or break) in God's plan happened around the time Paul began his ministry, which is roughly the middle of the Book of Acts?
Looking forward to you restarting your Romans Series.
Me to!
You are an excellent teacher. If I wanted to follow your teachings which UA-cam video should I begin?
You can download his book Start Rightly Dividing for free.
The you and the law teaching is a good start.
****1 Corinthians 15:11**** "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." One word "WE" destroys the Mid-Acts Dispensationalist position, which asserts that the gospel preached by Paul was distinct from that preached by Peter and the other apostles. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists believe that Peter and the apostles preached a "gospel of the kingdom" to Israel, while Paul preached a "gospel of grace" to the Gentiles, suggesting two separate messages. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 provides a clear statement of unity in the preaching of both Paul and the other apostles, implying that they proclaimed the same gospel. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that Paul’s gospel (often termed "the gospel of the grace of God") is distinct from the gospel Peter and the others preached. They suggest that Peter’s gospel focused on the kingdom for Israel, while Paul’s message was about grace and justification by faith for the Gentiles. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 directly challenges this view: Paul states that both he and the other apostles preached the same gospel, which resulted in the faith of the Corinthians. This clearly implies a shared message rather than two separate or distinct gospels. If Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels, it would be odd for Paul to conclude his argument by saying "whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." The use of "we" unites Paul with the other apostles in the act of preaching the same gospel.
@@UponaROCKExactly. To assert that there are multiple gospels opposes the teaching of Scripture. The verse you quoted (1 Corinthians 15:11) is an explicit statement by the apostle that they all preached the same gospel.
@@matthewsouthwell3500 Thanks for the comment. We both know that Mid Acts Dispensationalism is a doctrine of devils that distorts the clear teaching of Scripture, leads to confusion and division, and exalts human intellect and pride over the simplicity of the Gospel. Those who embrace this false doctrine are willfully rejecting the truth, opening themselves up to deeper spiritual deception.
As believers, we must remain vigilant and grounded in the Word of God. The Bible warns us to "prove all things" and to "hold fast that which is good" (1 Thessalonians 5:21). We must test every doctrine against the full counsel of Scripture and reject any teaching that does not align with the truth of God’s Word. Mid Acts Dispensationalism, for all its claims of being "biblical," does not pass that test.
The fellowship of the mystery video from 4 years ago is what sold me.
AMEN 🙏
How did the jews properly worship the LORD, (according to lv16) after returning from exile, specifically on the day of atonement when, for many scholars, there was no Arc of the covenant
I think for God it always was a matter of heart. He KNOWS when sth is lacking (on purpose) and TODAY we don't look back on Jewish customs and tradition.
Wrongly dividing the people of God
What is wrong about his teachings ?
Name a point that you would like to discuss.
@@robusc4940 I refer to the error of the Scofield Dispensationalists in proposing a division in the people of God. God has one people, one Israel, the Church.
"Dispense with tradition, do not wrongly divide the people of God."
@@anselman3156Grace Ambass are 'midacts', I don't think Scofield was.
There are many 'churches' throughout the OT & NT.
The current 'church' is the Body of Christ and Gal 3:28, Col 3:11, 1 Cor 12:13 applies to anyone who places their faith/trust in the Gospel 1 Cor 15:1-4 death/burial/resurrection of Christ for JUSTIFICATION.
@@matthewsouthwell3500 Your posts elsewhere & this one BRILLIANTLY displays your ignorance
Most people totally misuse the idiom "rightly dividing the word." To rightly divide was a farming term. When a farmer needed to plow through new or tough ground, he would sight an object in the distance. The object had to be known, sure, and unmoving. As he plowed through each row, he made sure that what he was doing *lined up* with what he knew to be solid and sure.
When we encounter new or difficult passages, we must make sure that our understanding LINES UP with the parts that we already know and are clear and sure.
Never did it mean to split the Bible into "ours and theirs."
God does *not* divide his followers into a caste system!
Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
These are different gospels. It's not a caste system because the Jews can also recieve grace from the gospel of the uncircumcision, it's just that for a time the gospel of the circumcision was also available to those awaiting the OT prophesy and/or were followers of John the Baptist, Acts 19 shows this take place when Paul baptizes two of John's people into the gospel of the circumcision.
Read it carefully. He is NOT saying that there is a "Circumcision Gospel!" That is an absurd idea! He is saying that HE (Paul) was called to preach THE GOSPEL to the uncircumcised people, that is, gentiles.
While other are called to preach THE GOSPEL to those who were circumcised (Jews.)
@@DianaSzucs-jv7yo The gospel of the kingdom and Paul's "mystery" gospel of grace are these two gospels and if you were to carefully read Acts you would see the disciples instructing believers to sell everything they owned and to live with them together as followers:
(Acts 2:44-45) "And all that believed were together, and had all things common; {45} And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need."
These were Israelites who were living in Israel under the law, and who have sold their possessions to travel and be instructed by the apostles of Christ. Completely different circumstances and requirements as a believer than a Christian experiences.
@@Daiyve Gospel means "good news." The Gospel taught in the OT was the Good News that those who were faithful to their God (faithfulness which is brought about by FAITH in YHVH/ I AM) would be resurrected on the last day to reign forever on a redeemed and perfected earth with their Messiah as KING.
The gospel of the NT is that the Messiah came, the gentiles were grafted into the Congregation of the Elect (Ekklesia) and if they lived by faith in YHVH/I AM they would be resurrected on the last day to reign forever on a perfected. renewed earth with their savior.
The Gospel of the kingdom is the Good News that there will be an eternal kingdom of perfection to those who receive their Messiah through FAITH by looking BACK to his sacrifice and forward to his coming.
The Gospel for the Jews was the Good News that they would inherit the land of promise to those who belong to their Messiah through faith by looking forward to his coming.
@@DianaSzucs-jv7yo You left out the part where Daniel's 70 weeks had 7 years left, the tribulation, when Stephen was stoned, and then instead of that beginning Jesus appeared to Paul and we've had 2000 years of grace, and waiting for the rapture and tribulation period to begin.
When you include that very important information from the OT, then you must become a dispensationalist to account for the Daniels 70 weeks not yet being fulfilled, not until the fullness of the gentiles.
Makes me wonder that in 100 years what future right dividers may be correcting in our doctrines!
I don’t read or follow Scofield. But how about someone do a critique of your and your ministry? Or do you have everything right? I doubt it.
What part don't you agree with ?
Paul your comment here is worthless.
Paul also wrote to Timothy "not to lay hands on quickly" (i.e. identify someone as a brother in Christ 1Tim5:22) and to "stay away from" people that show every feature of 2Tim3:1-7. He doesn't count THEM brothers but unbelievers, nominal Christians, false brethren. There's a LOT Paul has to say about those and he doesn't count them into the true Body of Christ apparently.
Regarding 2 tim 3:1-7 , we need to consider circumcision in Christ are teachers too:
“For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:”
Titus 1:10 KJV
*****1 Corinthians 15:11***** "Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." One word "WE" destroys the Mid-Acts Dispensationalist position, which asserts that the gospel preached by Paul was distinct from that preached by Peter and the other apostles. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists believe that Peter and the apostles preached a "gospel of the kingdom" to Israel, while Paul preached a "gospel of grace" to the Gentiles, suggesting two separate messages. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 provides a clear statement of unity in the preaching of both Paul and the other apostles, implying that they proclaimed the same gospel. Mid-Acts Dispensationalists argue that Paul’s gospel (often termed "the gospel of the grace of God") is distinct from the gospel Peter and the others preached. They suggest that Peter’s gospel focused on the kingdom for Israel, while Paul’s message was about grace and justification by faith for the Gentiles. However, 1 Corinthians 15:11 directly challenges this view: Paul states that both he and the other apostles preached the same gospel, which resulted in the faith of the Corinthians. This clearly implies a shared message rather than two separate or distinct gospels. If Paul and Peter were preaching different gospels, it would be odd for Paul to conclude his argument by saying "whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed." The use of "we" unites Paul with the other apostles in the act of preaching the same gospel.
@@UponaROCK you mean Paul’s gospel is also waiting for the great tribulation like that of Peter:
“And I will shew wonders in heaven above, And signs in the earth beneath; Blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:”
Acts 2:19 KJV
@@UponaROCK I do myself support Mid-Acts as a historical "cesura" but YES you're totally right with regards to DOCTRINAL teaching which doesn't conflict Paul with Peter or the other apostles at all (one is a historical matter, other is doctrinal). Logically speaking (and Justin seems to be a logical guy too), "WE" would then have to assume that Pauls epistles are NOT valid for any "Ex-Jewish" believer if there's a controversy vice versa. Makes no sense at all. I would call that "hyper Mid-Acts" which is also false like any "hyper" teaching. If you "hyper divide" scripture you will get a mash of some kind but not find better understanding. MARANATHA, greetings from Germany! 🙏❤️
@@Corinna_Schuett_GER Greetings from Savannah, GA and thanks for the reply. Please explain the idea that a historical shift (or break) in God's plan happened around the time Paul began his ministry, which is roughly the middle of the Book of Acts?