The Pa. grand jury investigation into alleged systemic cover-up of child sex abuse within the Jehova
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- A Pa. grand jury recently brought child sex abuse charges against nine men in what some are calling the most extensive investigation into Jehovah's Witnesses ever.
Thank you so much for highlighting this. It has cost so many lives.
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They’ll ironically claim this as “persecution”.
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Exactly!
Yup, you already know, and it's so crazy that the rank and file members have no clue what's really going on within this cult, because they're not allowed to know, if they do ANY kind of research they will be accused of reading Apostate literature smh that organization is absolutely disgusting, and i pray to whomever is my higher power and have the ability to do something about this, that this evil organization is exposed and brought to an end, i pray that all the devout rank and file members get an abrupt waking up out of the sunken place that they are in
If that's the case, good! Watchtower needs more "persecution."
@@alans.wendelschafer6588 its foolish your comments all disciples of jessus is said to face persecutions ,but what persecutions some people came in our cult to change ¹themselfs but at the end of the day they dont we are in a wiked world of satan ,in Jw there is shunning to punish sinners that is being done to people who do not repent.
Omg so true
Thankfully, finally... someone cares !
The elders do not ever inform the police about child sex complaints.
But they report to police every single one act of vandalism to KH
@@simoneklll539 right 👉
They do where the law permits.
@@ronhansen8471permits?? Lol every state permits you to call the police on a child predator. Jehovahs Witnesses DO NOT. Their only concern is keeping the victim silent.
@@ronhansen8471 this is false. The law never PREVENTS them from reporting. The elders only report where the law absolutely requires that they report. And Watchtower legal looks for any loophole they can use to not have to report. They put a ton of effort and money into looking for ways not to have to protect children. I can show you Watchtower letters showing this is the case.
The whole Watchtower needs to be investigated.
Yes!
Definitely
Why does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society need to be investigated?
@@ronhansen8471 They (The Watchtower) are the ones that back all this up- corruption. The attorney general knows that the main line of communication comes from the Watchtower.
@ronhansen8471 Systemic coverup of sexual abuse, not only in the US.
Thank you for looking in to this 👍🏻
Thank you. Please keep investigating.
Nailed all elders and when you want to remove a tick from an animal , you have to get the head out and destroy it. The heads are in New York state and Pennsylvania! Great start ! Thanks for for letting everyone know about this. I am a survivor of CSA in that Corporation.
And make sure that no legs are still in.
My responsibility is to tell the authorities
The watchtower wall is coming down brick by brick.
I agree. And it should come down fast and due to the truth of what they do. We need to get out of Babylon, now.
"Witness to Wicked" aptly applies.
The Watchtower started to crumble & i love it!
It was the unwillingness of the elders to do anything about a serial child abuser that made me leave for good
So you blame the entire organization because of one bad apple?
@@ronhansen8471 when it is their established policy to not report child molesters and continues to be it isn't "one bad apple"
Personality I had to deal with 30 elders that would quote scripture that reporting would be reproach to god name if an elder was arrested and ordered to keep quiet and when I didn't I was shunned immediately
@@ronhansen8471 no we blame the organization that maintains a database of known pedophiles tens of thousands strong!
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!
@@kathryna6370 Figures. It is not the elders established policy to follow the laws in each states the crime was committed. I find your comment about 30 elders a tad over the top. If an elder was committing a wrong he should be brought before a judicial committee. If the crime was child abuse the victims have every right to report it to the authorities regardless of who it was. And yes if an elder or any member committed a crime of child abuse it would bring reproach on the organization. There are Christian laws and principals that need to be adhered to by all members regardless. King Manasseh can be used as an example
Justice for the many victims will come!
Great Job keep Exposing Watchtower LIES Abuse Hypocrisy and Corruption
So thankful I woke up from my life of programming and mind-control
The elders used the excuse of "this happened so long ago" all the time when victims would come forward. But if you had sex as an adult with another adult they would not stop till you were disfellowshipped.
Are you speaking from experience or just speaking?
@@ronhansen8471 jw troll go away.
@@barrygibbons2803 No point in helping someone with a corrupt heart is there?
@@ronhansen8471 your a JW troll. Watchtower is a business they only do things to promote the cult. people are used by the Org and made slaves of the Watchtower. Many of its members may be sincere in their beliefs and things they do but the Organisation is corrupt and Evil. The Governing Body are not men of God they are crime bosses.
@@barrygibbons2803 Trolls live in Norge. I realize people don't like the truth and that is my purpose to exchange the lie with the truth. (Romans 1:25)
Watchtower has no interest in protecting their members. Be they victim or perpetrator. They are ONLY concerned with protecting themselves, and the organization. SA is only one of the abuses this organization makes their members suffer.
Quite positive JW elders, leaders, etc,.,do NOT report sexual abuse to the police!! They claim they do...ya...right??!! 😏🙁🫤🙄🙄🙄🙄
here is the deal. In Florida for example the victim's parents report the crime not the elders. The laws in each state may not be the same and then there is clergy privilege. One of the problems is that the legal system does not recognize Christian law and principals. Do you know what they are?
@@ronhansen8471 clergy privilege is not a thing that prevents elders from reporting. Watchtowers policies prevent them from reporting. The law provides the loophole, it doesn't mean it has to be used. Watchtower argues that a child reporting their own abuse falls under clergy privilege.
They say they do...but they don't.
1006 unreported Cases in Australia alone since 1950 up until 2015....
In this 65 years they had enough Time to report...
Right??
But they didn't.
May be lately they are saying
You have the right to report...
Because they want to look nice before the law of the Land....
And the massive amounts of money pay to the victims by court orders...
Crist are using the secular authorities to do the job....
No worries justice will be served.
@@ronhansen8471 who cares what the secular system recognizes or not? Blaming parents, when they are "following those in the lead".....is rich. You sir are tying yourself in knots, to excuse religious leaders and others not reporting abuse of minors.
In Australia, over 2000 (at least documented by the branch), cases of abuse over decades. Would you like to know how many were reported to the police? Take a wild guess.
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Would you like to know how many of those cases were multiple offenders?
Come on man. You guys got this wrong. Have some humility.
@@ronhansen8471 There is no state law that prevents or punishes clergy reporting abuse. There are only state laws that remove punishment if they decide not to report if something was said during a sacramental confession. Watchtower has disgustingly argued that exception to reporting law in several child abuse cases, and they've gotten in trouble for doing so multiple times because they try to use it even when communications were victims or bystanders making accusations, which they then investigated internally, not voluntary confessions. They also break confidentiality by passing all of this info to the branch vs the Catholic, Episcopalian confession model of priests refusing to tell even other priests what someone has confessed to them. Other professions with ethics requiring confidentiality break it easily to report child abuse, and even warn people ahead of time. I know because I do so in my own volunteer work as a trained crime victim advocate. There is no reason clergy cannot be held to the same standard, but the Catholic lobby really is powerful. So, the Watchtower gets to use loopholes put into the law thanks to the disgusting lobbying efforts of the Catholic Church and the legislators' disgusting fear of holding them accountable lest they lose their support, and you can then come here making excuses about how Watchtower isn't an abhorrent organization because, hey at least they didn't break ridiculous and woefully inadequate reporting laws. God forbid they do the right thing and the thing that protects kids without being compelled to by law, right? But no, they are not lawfully required not to report. That is not a thing, and it certainly isn't justification for their horrible child abuse handling.
Hopefully we will see the same investigation in New Zealand
Their public policy is quite different then their internal policy on reporting child molesters to the police
Yup
They feel they are allowed to lie to authorities if it protects God's organization. They call it "spiritual warfare" and you can find videos of jw leaders talking about why this is an ok thing to do. The entitlement and false humility make me sick.
The tower is falling
I really hope I live to see this happen. Gonna be a date I annually celebrate lol
If it does I think I will finally being able to heal.
Where is Justin these days?
I used to be a jehovah's witness for 30 years and abused by al elder during 4 years when i was 9.
When my mother was notified about this horrific crime, she talked to the leaders of the local congregation but they advised her not to report it to the police.
My father did not follow their rules and proceeded to report it.
Both of them ended up disfellowshipped for not obeying what the elders instructed them to do.
Now, all my family is out of this evil organization whose interest is to cover their butts and reputation and not a child's traumatism.
I am so very sorry for the suffering you and your family endured .
I used to be one too. One day in field service, I was driving and pulled into a gas station for a break when the two sisters in the back seat suddenly started yelling about their father, who was an elder, saying how he would come into their rooms and wake them at 3 a.m. with a cold glass of water thrown at them to wake them. I'm sure there was a lot more going on. Another time, they had a party at their house and asked me to get something from the fridge. When I looked, there were two fridges next to each other. One was full of beer that no one was allowed to drink.
Later, I learned he had been disfellowshipped for alcoholism but later reinstated and allowed to have oversight of the congregation. He was always a bully to me and my kids.
My mom didn't report it but I left and now I'm dfed and none of my family talk to me.
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I am really sorry ☹️
This organization does not care for their followers, what matters is to explote them in the name of 'god'.
But we have good news 🥂🫡👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
The government of Norway objects to aspects of Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practice of disfellowshipping. In their opinion, shunning of former members prevents the right to freedom of expression, and is contrary to Section 2 of the Norwegian Religious Associations Act. Jehovah’s Witnesses also permit disfellowshipping of baptized minors. This means that children can be expelled if they break the group’s rules. According to the government, this is negative social control and violates children’s rights. Also, unbaptized children who break the group’s rules may be exposed to social isolation. This too can be perceived as negative social control and a violation of children’s rights, and a violation of Article 6 of Norway’s Religious Communities Act.
Therefore Jehovah’s Witnesses lose registration as a religious community in Norway because of their policy to enforce shunning of expelled members and
are ordered to pay $22,735 in legal costs to the state.
onlysky.media/hemant-mehta/norway-will-no-longer-fund-the-jehovahs-witnesses/
I left when I was in my early 20's and later learned that many of my own close friends growing up were abused. I'm glad your family has escaped. Most of mine is still trapped in there.
All for religion. It's absolutely amazing. Elders are not doing their job, protecting children. 😒 Accountability
Elders are not the police that sneak around and check up on its members but rather shepherd who take care of the spirituality of the sheep. They do not accuse unless they have verifiable proof or admittance from the accused.
@@ronhansen8471 I wonder if elders sneak around like police looking for homosexual activity or drug/alcohol use? I wonder if elders keep an eye out for blasphemous talk or members celebrating worldly holidays? I wonder if the elders keep an eye out for any members wearing cross necklaces or other such idol worship?
Do you think the elders ignore all these things too? Do you think members of the church are punished for doing any of the above as a result of elders witnessing their sins? Or is it just child sexual assault which they don't care about?
@@williamdowling7718 asking some good questions! Ron is defending the indefensible actions (inaction really) of his organization throughout these comments.
@@williamdowling7718 Keep wondering as you will never know, apparently. What I would do is review the activities of a shepherd and then you might learn and not wonder. There are new ones that come into the congregation with all sorts of ideas learned in the world and in their church. As mature Christians we do not make a big deal out of wrong understanding but will assist in helping them learn the truth with the idea that learning doesn't happen overnight.
@@ronhansen8471 by all means. Enlighten me. If you tell me the answer, I will know. If no jw's care to explain, then I'll never know.
Do church elders take any of their time to punish or otherwise administer consequences to church members who celebrate worldly holidays or display idols such as cross necklaces?
Yes or no?
I hope this investigation opens up in other states. New York has a lot cases. I also have a lot to say as a former witness.
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Read the JW Elders handbook 'Shepherd the Flock of God'
Please keep investigating. I left the church 20 years ago and there is so much wrong there. I walked in on my brother molesting the girl my mom babysat. I reported to my mom then we had to talk to the elders but the family decided to not reported because it would them look bad for the church. I was so confused since I was told they supposedly obeyed the laws of Cesar so I was very confused with the situation. As I got older I understood they hid it and my brother never was charged. And I will be forever regret not have been able to have stopped if from happening to that little girl. And when I reported it got hidden and I never saw that little girl again. I wish I could hug her and ask for forgiveness.
Don't you think that in more times than not the JW families of child abuse victims keep it silent to protect the child and it is not the elders hiding the facts?
@@ronhansen8471 No. Definitely not.
Many crimes have very long statutes of limitations. Please, report what you know to the police. Reporting crimes is in harmony with Romans chapter 13. Give Jehovah glory and report the crime to the authorities who are God's public servants.
@@punothebear If you read the literature published by the JW organization on child sexual abuse you would know what their position is on the subject and what is done. Yes some crimes do have long statutes of limitation but have you reviewed child sexual abuse statutes of limitations in all states? I have and frankly I was surprised. States are working to delete the sexual abuse statute of limitations but have a long way to go.
The bottom line is that elders do not hide pedophiles, they follow God's law first, and the secular laws enforce.
Don't forget to scan their elders manual
Right
I am so, so happy to hear this news. I'm an xjw and csa is rife within the jw community. It's one of the reasons I left.
Jehovahs Wickednesses.
Never heard that one, love it😂
More needs to be done. More arrests need to be done to domestic abusers who lies to everyone and act like it's never them. A sociopath narcissist
Disgusting. Every religious organization needs the same, must be reported. Constant cover-ups.
It is systemic in all churches and even the scouts.
Faded Glory, I went thru it for years, I totally get it. I don't trust churches, elders, deacons, pastors, none of it. I was made and forced in silence for 18 years. It's sick, and yes, boy scouts, and alit of that, even have big brothers and big sisters, been reported
@@FunkyMonkeyInvestigations wow. Sorry for you to have gone through that. 🌺
I just hope that some of these things, gets done and this kind of brainwashing that you can't go to a PD or to a sexual assault crime unit, for the sake of the victim, " rather than how the church will look, or the pastor, who cares how you look, especially if you are covering, hiding, causing fear,or guilty.. no mercy..jail' ! Enough is enough. ❤️🩷🧡💚💛💙☺️and thanks
Antisemite!
Using a biblical quote for the title is just brilliant
He says it’s the church’s fault. He saw, he knew, he stayed. Terrible judgement on his part! Shame on you Dad.
It's the power of brainwashing and mind control...
Thank goodness he woke up and reported the abuse
Have you ever been in a cult, sir?
Not saying you’re necessarily wrong , but you may not understand indoctrination and what it can do to a person
Their brainwashing tactics have destroyed my family and many others. We will never recover.
The perpetrator was a relative through adoption. This father interviewed here was a ministerial servant, and his uncle, the perpetrator's adopted father, was an elder. He had multiple relatives in that congregation, and he went up against a team of elders telling him to shut his mouth and let everyone handle the situation in the family, which is super duper common with familial cases of child sexual abuse. The perpetrators' families very often protect them and throw the family member who has been victimized under the bus to maintain appearances and family unity. He called Bethel to report it himself despite that, and was then deleted as a ministerial servant for not obeying the elder arrangement. There is a lot more to this case than what is shared here, and he eventually did go to police. The state of Pennsylvania let the perp off of the hook because he was still a juvenile when it happened, because there still is a whole lot of ignorance, even among the justice system about the pathology of sex abusers. He was a teenager and old enough to know better. Yes, maybe parents of victims who don't go to "worldly" authorities may share some blame in not protecting victims. That doesn't mean it is ok for the other adults who become aware to not only refuse to report, but to circle the wagons around the abuser to protect him instead of the child. And this is what happens all too often in these cases.
ONCED this gets public and in mainstream media, wouldn't be great if they also investigated all the victims who were disfellowshipped when they DID report their abusers? That one would be very telling. There are so many people that lost their families because they were shunned for reporting their abuse to the authorities. SHAME ON YOU FAMILY MEMBERS THAT STICK TO YOUR RELIGION RATHER THAN LOVE YOUR FAMILY.
I am a Christian that has family members who aren't Christian, and I don't shun them. This cult is dangerous to families.
He done nothing when he caught dude hurting his daughter?? He doesn't deserve children!!
Seriously. I would have whipped his butt right then and there.
There are many cases where the adult witness admitted the crime of CSA, still law enforcement was not informed, but the Service Committee at Headquarters directed Elders to not inform law enforcement, and if an Elder does, they are removed! This is well documented in previous cases such as the case in Freemont California Congregation with Candace Conti, the victim. Where a letter written to the Elders from the Governing Body told them not to inform law enforcement and to take no judicial action against the child molester. It is all in the case files which are public records now. I went since I lived in Freemont and got the case records. I had to see for myself the evidence. I was 😲 shocked!
My dad was disciplined as an elder for even suggesting to my friend and her mom that they should go to the police. When it came to trial, not only were elders there to support the abuser, some of them actually testified on his behalf as character witnesses. And no one was there to support my friend (I was too young at the time to fully understand.)
This is a serious sin and MUST be firmly dealt with, we MUST PROTECT our Children everywhere.☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
Sin? It’s a CRIME.
MORE THAN JUST A SIN " ITS A CRIME .....
I was one of those kids!!!
Me too
I am so sorry you had to go though that!! My heart goes out to you !!
I hope you have healed and have experienced a better life.
"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's."... Everyone one of these cases should have been reported to the police. That is Jehovah God's view on this issue.
They're not following their own teachings with Matthew 18: 16-18, outlining the process of wrong doing. But this is a crime committed, not a simple misdeed.
However internally there’s no “clergy”!
GO TO THE POLICE
Stop saying what you think should be obvious to people who are brainwashed because common sense and independent thinking ability do not exist in a cult atmosphere. Unless you've lived it, please, you won't understand and you'll blame the wrong people.
They NEED to be investigated more 😡
Y'all should put all of these reports in a playlist! Loads of people will be curious and will want to watch the investigation beginning to end!
Erin's Law has passed in 37/50 states and is federally funded under the general education budget. Erin's Law is taught as part of the school safety program by using age appropriate materials to teach children grades k-12 how to recognize and report child sexual abuse and sex trafficking. Where Erin's Law has been shared nationally and internationally, it has helped catch predators of children individually and systemic. Please contact your school district to ensure Erin's Law is used in your community to add this layer of protection for your children? Thank you.
I was part of that cult for 18 years. They have to be investigated!
This cult needs to be shut down.
Wow and it happened in the one true religion too .. Jehovah's pissed
Almighty GOD YHVH is a GOD of justice...
Sonner or later the truth will come out.
Look what happened to the nation that GOD choose to represent His holy name??
God gave a warning to Israelites about their wrong doing...
Matteus chapter 23....
Because they didn't lesson, they didn't repent thinking they were protected inside the temple,same time the elder back then murdered the prophets inside the Holy of the Holys where the ark of convent was...
So God sent a highly military nation to destroy the temple...
Who did God use??
The Roman soudgers....
Always God uses the secular powers to do the job....
Now we are in similar situation.
Stay faithful....
There is a lot to see.... coming.
@@MariaNunes-po5rc he's also extremely petty.. he's jealous, angry , a compete narcissist who demands being worshiped, is apparently into human sacrifice and he's a mass murderer who can't even keep track of one guy when there's only two people in existence "where's Adam?: so I appreciate the sentiment but I don't follow made up gods
@@4everseekingwisdom690 Nihilistic, brash and strident. You go, girl!
Abuse is abuse don't matter how long it happened...
Children dignity comes first...
Common sense right???
Shut down this organization!
Well if I caught someone abusing my child. The offender would disappear
The JW community need to wake up and give credit to Jehovah for handling it. It may not be in the way that they like but he is handling it.
An abuser of my daughter at her cousins is still not been punished and living without consequence in South Africa....this included rape of one or two of the girls!
so decieved and enslaved by the non Christian cult. they believe Jesus is Michael the archangel.
The bible teaches the government is there because God is allowing it and we should follow the laws...pretty sure it is law that if you know of a crime especially so heinous you should report it. No wonder a lot of elders have abused kids. When someone sins they ask you every single detail of your sin and make a decision of whether to disfellowship you. These people should read galatians.
It's deeper than their policy. They ordered elders through letters & their legal department to keep this quiet so as "not to bring reproach on God's name." When a case becomes known, the elders MUST contact legal at headquarters and follow their directions. They are culpable.
This is all I ever heard as a young person." We have to wait on Jehovah" It's all about not bringing reproach on Jehovahs name! What about protecting the children! This has to come out into the light.
That phrase still infuriates me. I'm inactive and my parents are still active jws and I'm still very close to them, physically and emotionally, and they somehow manage to work god and/or the org into pretty much every conversation and when I bring up legitimate problems they say, "wait on Jehovah," but they never really have an answer when I say, "why? Why would a god of love force his most faithful followers to wait, in pain, in fear, until some unknown time, when he has the power to fix it, or at least make it much better, right now? No loving parent would hand their child a venomous snake or a rock when they ask for bread, right?" And just for a second I can see the cognitive dissonance in their eyes, bc they are very loving parents and would never treat me and my sister the way Jehovah apparently treats his chosen people!
5:20 That half hidden sentence is important. "As required by law", not in all cases and immediately.
Edit: should have finished the video before frustration posting.
The bigger picture is would Jesus even care if it's mandatory reporting or not the whole goal is child protection. According the the Bible he wants sacrifice over the law.
📢Watchtower; Let My People Go!
Class Action Lawsuits.
If the pedophile is a JW, the legal department tells the elder to not report the abuse to the authorities. When elders do report it to authorities, they are delected from their position of an elder. When the pedophile is not a JW, than they are allowed to report the abuse, with no repercussions comming to the elder. According to reported cases, the percentage of abuse (to the total in the religion), is twice as bad with the JW’s, compared with the Catholic religion.
Sadly, this is the only way WT will change anything. You would think, to hear them talk, that they would change because it's the right thing to do. Hit their pocketbook and they change their tune. Sick
Ask them about their 2 witness rule.
Why would you wait for a 3rd time?.
You get those b*******
Hey bro!!!!!
They don't call the cops that is str8 bs
Ain’t this true, I was sexually assaulted by my own brother in law when I was 17 and it was swept under the rug, my parents said I had mental health that I lied about it and was just trying to destroy my sisters life. Nothing was done about it, even 27 years later it’s still in the same status “nothing happened” I made it up. Even tho I didn’t. Only the elders were informed but nothing further was done. It’s a hard spot to be in!
What I don’t understand with these stories is why they go to the elders first. If that happened, I would immediately make a police report. When I talk to the elders it would be to let them know what he did and that I already filed a police report, not to get permission. Sorry not sorry, born in JW here.
That man that did nothing to help his daughter should be punished!. I would lay down my life to protect my kids without a second thought. And he just thinks about it. He is disgusting!!!
The watchtower need to be fully investigated. They only do harm, both physically and psychologically. Please take them down. For the victims. For us.
People act like these religions is a good thing, do they ever study the real history of the church?
Statutes of limitations need change. Some states are lifting.
If you were abused check your state, get a lawyer try to get justice.
As a child of JW its rampant
Talk about bringing reproach on Jehovah
That loving god, always taking care of his flock. Glad I'm not a sheep.
"They *are* authorized to receive confessions" oh WHEW you wouldn't want to just TALK to a FRIEND and find out later that it wasn't sanctioned first!
To be silent when one should speak up makes cowards out of men. That couple are the best example of cowards that I have ever seen. Absolutely sickening. Jehovahs witnesses say that they obey the laws of the land and don't report these types of crimes are cowards.
I don't care what anybody else says. They'll call the police when it suits their wants, but they won't call the police when it doesn't. They are extremely erratic, and don't tow the line.
Thank you, it is a very painful reality. It is horrible to be ostracized. I am very sorry for what happened to the girl. I hope you have found Peace by now.
Don’t lose sight of the fact that her own father failed her. Because his nephew was her molester. There’s a lot more here than just the fact that it should have definitely been reported. He made himself an accessory, and now he’s blaming everyone except himself.
Boom! There’s always more. These accusations never make sense.
I wonder how his daughter feels about her parents 😢
2 witness rule is stupid
Religious groups teach csa is a sin not a crime.
Yep. Great report 👍
the 'two witness' claim is faulty, thats absolutely not what the bible says. its not talking about witnessing a sinful act.... Matthew ch 18 vs15: “Now if your brother sins go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that on the TESTIMONY of two or three witnesses every matter may be confirmed. 17 And if he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, he is to be to you as [p]a Gentile and [q]a tax collector.' [there are rarely two witnesses to an abuse.]
Several of my friends killed themselves because they were shunned.
This cult is so dangerous. Keep spreading awareness.
This is a great example of church and state being in bed with each other. At the expense and lives of the victims they prey on. As long as people attend these organizations and keep them running. This issue will never be fixed. It’s so embarrassing to think that adults in modern day still haven’t resolved how to fix this stupid problem in the world.
NOT TOLD NOT TO GO TO THE POLICE ANYWHERE IN THE WATCHTOWER. JUST GO TO POLICE. IF YOU KNEW ABOUT A MURDER YOU WOULD HAVE TO TELL POLICE, NOT ELDERS.
The elders are instructed to report child sex abuse to the Watchtower Legal Department FIRST....the legal department then advised them on what to do , depending on whether or not
reporting CSA to the authorities is mandatory in their state or country .
If reporting to the authorities is not mandatory, the elders are instructed to handle the crime internally in their secret kangaroo courts called " judicial committees".
It's not a policy they print in the public watchtower articles, that would be idiotic on their part and they aren't that stupid. But it is in the elders handbook that only appointed men in the congregation have access to.
Right! As a parent, just go to the police first. Then if you want to let the elders know what happened, tell them after.
@@mimid.6675 i know that but you do not have to tell any elder before the police.
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We know how the Jws are programmed...and how they're discouraged from " taking their brother to court "...and how they hide anything negative about the " brothers" and organisation so as not to " bring reproach on Jehovah's name "
I use to belong to that organization, here in Tennessee I know one that a young man was abused and it was put under the rug.
Good ! You as good men ( people) must do something good or else evil will abound !
More false prophets.
Every one of those new world translation “scriptures” is burned in my mind.
Thank God for Josh Shapiro.
Geeez.....what a suprise. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
As.a former Jehovah's witness, you want to know what's funny, if you look at their previous song book.. The artwork on the back of the songbook actually alludes to this problem of sex abuse with children... It uses very suggestive EMBEDDED imagery... A man with an erection disguised as a deformed hand... A young girl wearing a chastity belt...
The style of the imagery is meant to be subliminal, as if hiding in plain sight.. A lot of things could be going on in that place using the same signature... Given that they were BOLD enough to print that. It's a signature I've seen before with the Freemasons and it's where modern Jehovah's witnesses first had their start... Now I'm not trying to be condescending to anyone, but that's probably more than JUST a coincidence, it also has MAJOR spiritual implications...
All things being equal, the simplest explanation tends to be right one...
Sidenote: ua-cam.com/video/LqxJ-FMAShw/v-deo.html (It's no mystery to me)...
I think they removed it but all their art work has demonic subliminal messages in it .There's a YT channel that shows it
About time.
But everyone knows family will get away with raping their grandchildrens,daughters,sons and step children. Rome 13:4-5 This verses states those doing bad and bad will come back to them. It not speaking anything about forgiving these wicked monster that are to do time.
I'm just going to guess that they will soon anounce that maybe god no longer has their blessing. That they are simply searching for god in a dark world. That may be the only way to keep members in their group.
Yank their tax exemption
International commettee on jehovahs witnesses and their opponants. 16 Holly folk
me too