No surprise Herodotus was uncomfortable in Egypt. He was disgusted to see Egyptian women enjoying freedom and given respect by men. What a contrast to Athenian society where women were virtual slaves having no freedom, regarded as stupid, deceitful and inferior. The love of an older man to a teenage boy was of a higher order and celebrated. Women only existed to bear children for men. Why were the ancient Greeks so hostile to females?
Because they're sill pissed that the Trojan War was started inadvertently by a bunch of goddesses fighting over a f*king apple (Yes this is a joke about the apple of discord. Look it up)
Simply because Egypt was more hedonistic doesn't mean they were less of a patriarchy than any other empire of the Ancient world. There were many aspects of Ancient Egypt which was not ideal for females. Also Egypt was just as homosexual as Greece so I'm not sure what implication you were trying to make with that.
Egypt had an extremely ridged gender based system that granted women many freedoms but excluded them from thousands more. There’s a reason Hatshepsut presented herself male conforming, women were not to be Pharaohs. Women could be reagents, but only a male could be Pharaoh. It’s what makes Hatshepsut so extraordinary; her reign remains to us in the Egyptian record, and while Thutmosis III did have her name removed on most monuments, many Egyptian anthropologists believe that he removed her name as not to offend the gods and preserve her form in the afterlife, as the transition between the rule of the two was seamless. The problem arises when your female pharaoh must now face the judgement of the gods. Should a ruler as beloved and effective as Hatshepsut suffer eternal damnation? Evidence is strong that Thutmosis’s removal of her cartouches name may have been to preserve her eternal life. His erasure attempts are half hearted and sloppy at best.
Actually a royal little girl did learn housekeeping, except she was taught management rather than practical labor. A large part of her duties as a royal wife and mother were to properly regulate their very large households.
I don’t think anyone should dismiss the practices of a society that lasted for 3,000 years. No other society has come close to lasting as long as the Egyptians. There is a lot of wisdom to take from it if you want a society that is sustainable and can withstand many eras.
See I agree with you. Not even in specific civilizations , however the family unit and gender roles did get the human race this far. I don't know why modern society is so hell bent on villianizing it. It's like millions of years of biological evolution are just being completely ignored for the sake of "progressiveness". Males are designed differently than females, they evolved for seperate jobs for the same goal. That's just biological reality, not mysogenist.
@@milkandspice1074 So basic biological evolution offends you because you don't want to and I'm disrespectful for pointing out why civilizations across the globe had the same type of situation. So how's society going since we decided "we don't want to" anymore. Do you think the modern west will last as long as Egypt?
@@milkandspice1074 you seem to like west Africa allot. West Africa still uses traditional gender roles and has strict laws regarding family , including the death penalty for people who commit adultery. Also very strict laws on homosexuality. You're kind of a hypocrite tbh.
I found out about this just recently but preislamic Turkic tribes in Asia were the pinnacle of equality that I have never heard of before. Women were raised exactly the same as men, and this is exactly how it sounds. These people were warriors and nomads, which means if men go to war, so do women. They were trained their entire lives along with men, in archery, hands on combat, horse riding. A saying goes that "there was no such thing as a woman running away from a man", as men wouldn't dare insult a woman, and women could hold their own. A particular story explains how, due to possible danger, a wife waits with weapons at the door of the home, to defend her husband while he rests. There was also no such thing as "wife cooks men hunt and take care of the animals" (these people were nomads)- everything was done together and everyone was expected to participate. Some of them would later go to Byzantine empire as brides and were shocked at some treatment of women there, especially as they would be "dressed lavishly" and expected to look pretty and smile while these women were pretty much trained to fight their entire lives.
Press X for doubt. Women are 62% weaker by body weight. No amount of training can overcome such a large biological deficit. To put it into perspective if the average male at the time was 150lbs a woman would have to weigh 243lbs to be as strong as him. Even women today that are juiced to the gills with anabolic steroids don't get that big. Like the shieldmaidens of the vikings, women soldiers were used as last ditch defense and them entering combat basically meant the fight was over and their job was to inflict as much damage on the enemy as they could muster before being inevitably overwhelmed.
Also, the tactics used between smaller, thinner and shorter individuals are different from the tactics a more muscle bound, thicker, and taller individuals would use in a battle situation. Edit: sentence structure.
@@alliewilliams9744 Yeah, I can train a toddler to man mounted machine gun but it doesn't mean they'll be effective in battle. The implication was still the fantasy of the warrior woman being an effective military unit. The reason why no society did it, is because anyone that tried found out it didn't work. Women were more valuable creating more future soldiers than trying to fight.
@@socialdistancingon8333 Except women are so weak they couldn't even operate the pull on a long bow which would require 150-200lbs of force to pull. Long range weapons are the only conceivable situation they'd be useful in a battle. In any melee combat they are weaker, slower and cannot fight in heavy armor. Even in terms of reaction time women are 10 times slower to react to novel stimuli.
Not exactly. There were many benefits to being a woman in ancient Egypt, however there was still a great deal of sexist way of thinking and gender roles. You almost never see a female pharaoh ruling on her own, though they do exist but their names are few and far in between. Most roles of administration and government were fulfilled by men. Male heirs were priorities over female despite women could inherit and own property. In ancient Egyptian literature, women were described as being frivolous and untrustworthy. And to say that pre-Islamic Egypt offers more development and female social standing than Islamic Egypt sounds a bit Islamaphobic and skates the line of stereotypes about North African and Middle Eastern cultures
@@vinadevdutt4542 exactly..in Egypt every child has to learn and master there fathers trade..trades thats been passed down for centuries without them we would be nothing
It’s important to remember when using written Egyptian sources that they would only write about how the world should be, never if it had gone a way it shouldn’t. They believed strongly that the written word carried magic power and that to write anything down may bring it to come. Ancient Egyptians never wrote about bad things that would happen, for fear they would breath the bad life. So when there’s no written record about if there were sex workers, it’s probably because sex work was antithetical to the Ancient Egyptian view of balance and harmony being preserved at all times. It’s preposterous that in a civilization spanning the course of 3,000 years there were no sex workers. There were sex workers. The scribe class never used the gift of Thoth to write about them.
There might not be because premarital sex wasn't a taboo and both men n women can have consensual sex.... The brothels exists bcz sex outside marriage is not considered good and men are useless to set up brothels to enjoy sex apart from his wife or before marriage... Egyptian were right.... Have sex with whoever you want or love for both men and women
@@debasmitapaul9511 I’m pretty sure plenty of married men in ancient Egypt were cheating on their wives with sex workers. Just because we don’t have empirical evidence for it, it’s biased to assume in the absence of said data it DIDNT exist, instead of acknowledging you just don’t have the empirical data to prove definitively it did. When anthropologists and archaeologists are faced with a situation like this, we turned to human behavior. Sex work has been a part of human culture since culture, perhaps even before. Humans love sex, and we will go out of our way to have it. It’s universal. So with that knowledge of human behavior, it’s bad science and bad historical interpretation to state that because we have no data, there for there were no sex workers.
@@nessarigby5911 Men* love sex. Men* will go out of their way to have it. Women couldn't go to brothels for funsies. Just to sell their bodies. Men got the fun sex. Women didn't. Sounds pretty shitty to me. But yeah, it will always be this way. With men having all the sex they want with all the women they want, and people saying this is natural. While women are punished. Amazing.
Idk why the thought of an ancient GREEK being uncomfortable with the egyptian culture cracks me the f**k up.....weren't they known for some seriously questionable stuff themselves??!!!!
@@leonle924 to say the least. Man/boy loving is another example as well as the expression "going Greek" means butt buggery and the extreme like is another one that comes to mind. The fact that they were OBSESSED with the male genitalia entirely and they had SEVERAL phallic symbols all over the town much less in personal domicile doorways for good luck and prosperity....just to name a few. 🤣
@@bobbisparks53 I believe the man/boy love originated from Greek military life, you would be more inclined to fight with someone whom shared a sexual relationship with you. Not to mention their obsession with smaller penises as it was believed to show dominance and power. Ancient greek culture was very weird but super progressive for their time, other than the mistreatment of women.
This are all theory and theories can be right and can be wrong. And Egyptian women in our modern days are very strong in fact they are known that they beat their husbands and this is a real fact 😁
It’s actually really common in Africa during this time to find cultures where women shared in power and were relatively regarded as equal to men. Most earth based cultures are this way because their world view is governed by nature and the balance and harmony.
@Styliani lmao… they share thousands of years of culture and intersection with west Africa. The dogon share much of their language with Egypt because they left Egypt when it was Kemet as the successive invasions from the north occurred. There are tons of similarities in spiritual and scientific understanding, language, linguistics and culture of ancient Kemet and west Africa that indicate otherwise
@@yafetkasalie8070 has no data (because it did not happen minus incest , lices and crabs actually the romans had thouse , the egyptians had curios way to stop crabs and liceses , they would shave there constantly and took baths frequant also they would bathe in viniger after shaveing (yeah i know terrible stinging , but it worked ) to the point that romans thought they are crazy to shave there and any roman women would laugh at egyptian men that were shaved there Also this is because religion and haveing body hair (especialy for noblity) was not godly and since egyptian gods are depicted hairless they also tried to not have hair Romans had terrible STDs , Yeah .... idk why anyone wants to make anciant civilaizaitions so disgusting , dose everyone think that anciant people loved bad smelling stuff ? Not even medieval ages , one medieval queen did not want to shower and was ridiculed by every court a lord commented on her that she reeks and she said thank you (she was a crazy exeption ) actual true history is only available in private studies (schools dont want to teach it anymore )
ancient egypt literally does sound like it basically treated women as well as we do, at least in some respects. even just in the level of sexual freedom they had. i truly believe that the concept of virginity is an absolute stain on our culture.
Well even though the word itself is useful, I agree. People get shamed whether they’re a virgin or not for so many different reasons when it shouldn’t be a big deal
The obsession of virginity is insane, but nothing wrong with virginity itself. Just the whole obsession about it being enforced onto girls and women is what makes it insane.
@@paulmememan508 Men and women are suffering right now, and I'm gonna have to press x to doubt it's because women aren't focused on virginity. But in the same vein I am of the belief that sex is sacred and should be taken seriously.
Ironically, in modern Egypt you could get arrested for holding hands with your partner. Even if you’re married. Also if one of the couple has an Egyptian passport, you’re not allowed to share a hotel room with your partner if you’re not married to each other. I’m not sure exactly how seriously these rules are enforced but Egypt is definitely more conservative then it once was
A comment on the short lifespan: Average lifespan includes the ages at death of the very young and the very old. Most babies in ancient times died before age 5 due to infection, injury, etc so that skews the average lifespan toward the low end. But people who survived childhood didn't just suddenly need caretakers and die of old age in their late 20s. I highly doubt folks were hobbling around wrinkled at 29. War, disease, childbirth complications, malnutrition - all reasons why people would die young. That doesn't mean everyone died before age 35.
i understand your channel is all about "nutty" stuff but i don't see anything weird about the Ancient Egyptian marriage. in fact, they were The most genuine and civilized in this part in particular. love your videos btw.
I'm pleased to hear that there was no word for "virginity" in Ancient Egypt. I've always disliked this ridiculous notion that one's identity changes (or is sullied if you're female) once you engage in heterosexual intercourse. And people who choose not to engage in sex at all don't need a label to separate them from those who do, there is no point.
Wait that's what it means in the states? In asia if you had sex with anybody, regardless of gender, you're not a virgin anymore cause, well, you had sex. If you had sex with an animal (yes it is indeed disgusting) that also counts as you losing your virginity
'Virginity' wasn't invented because of identity, but we certainly think of it that way now. Identity was not something humans focused on during their evolution, "survival" was. Virginity was a means of survival for the following reasons: prevent unwanted pregnancy, and help ensure offspring and pregnant females are taken care off. If a woman got pregnant in caveman times, she could not take care of herself. Hunting and growing crops would be very difficult. (I lived off grid with three children for a time and it was difficult with advanced tech. It would have been impossible without technology. A cave girl's immediate family couldn't care for her due to short lifespans. Hence having a person committed to her before she had the chance of getting pregnant made sure that she and her offspring would survive. Multiple studies strongly suggest men are more likely to better take care of offspring emotionally if they are biologically their own. It's a shared trait with the animal kingdom where males will only care for offspring based on species and if they are biologically theirs. Due to this, women have evolved to actually have initial chemical release that bonds them emotionally. It only occurs during the first intercourse and each childbirth.
These comments are eye opening. I've lived in many places and NEVER have I heard that one's identity changes if you aren't a virgin. For backstory; Idaho, Washington, Oregon Montana, Connecticut, upstate New York, Georgia, Toronto, Ottawa, Pennsylvania, Illinois and now Utah. I've never heard of this ridiculous statement
Premarital sex was considered fine for women, which sounds great until you remember girls were married off by 10-12 yrs old. Having been widowed at 41, I do hope they are correct about being together in the afterlife.
Also these marriages weren't copulated until the girl hit puberty. Ancient china had a similar system, where girls would join the husband's household early and be taught by the mother in law on how to care for the specific home and stuff. Men were often young too and the couple would grow up together making the bond stronger .
@@kristingallo2158 Actually the life expectancy was so low due to so many children dying, not that most died in their 30s. That is what brings down the average life expectancy for that time. An incredible number of young children died young, which drops the average, but if a child lived past the age of 5, they were then likely to live a pretty long life.
It sounds like a beautiful culture, not weird! What I like the most about it is that they valued their children highly, boys and girls equally. And their style, of course! They looked stunning.
I love this channel 😁 an I love the narrator, almost Morgan Freeman 👍🏻👍🏻 love the interesting historical facts mainstream history avoids.. I've always loved everything ancient Egyptian 👏🏻😲👍🏻👍🏻
It's so surprising to learn that they used to sign a contract for objects ownership before marriage ! I live in Egypt and they still carry this practice till today and call it (el-Qayma = the list) in it they list all the things the groom brought & the things the bride brought and sign it infront of witnesses so that in case of a divorce each party get their stuff or it's value in cash . I found it to be strange and pessimistic apparently it's just culture 🤣
I'm really enjoying learning how different civilizations of Ancient Africa managed life. Africans were so advanced in areas that we in modern society can't seem to get right. Thanks for your work✌🏾❤🖤💚💛✌🏾
Africa is its own continent so we should ask the question how/why/when history started mixing her people🤔😒 ... Egyptians are African no matter how the story is twisted
@7:18 ...Considering the life expectancy was mentioned to be 29-33, it really dawns on me that the elderly people that would have been being looked after were literally my age, 28. In ancient Egypt I am elderly and need caring for and would only have a few years left in me, so weird.
yeah you must have gotten something twisted up there, average live expectancy doesn't mean the oldest age that people ever reach and a low life expectancy usually results from high infant mortality rates, not people suddenly dropping dead at 28. even back in those days, people dying between 70 and 90 wasn't a rarity. so no, you wouldn't be considered an elderly person in need of care.
@@ibanez856 men also worked very dangerous jobs while many women died in childbirth. Which is why the upperclass live the same ages as us, they were the only ones with health and safety lmao and had access to better healthcare than the peasants. - > Which is why USA life expectancy is quite low for a Western country
My dad is from Cairo, Egypt. He recently told me that his dad owned a pharmacy in Cairo and invented/sold a version of Viagra before it even existed on the market.
I would love it if you could do more coverage of ancient Greece I’m totally fascinated by it. Also what it would’ve been like to live in Mesopotamia and ancient first cities like some of the first cities in the world I wonder what the cultures were like there? I love your videos good job.
Only if the cast is actually Egyptians and not Negros. A world of difference and I'm sick of people glorifying Negros just because ignorant people think that ONLY Negros suffered slavery. Many Occidentals (which may include some Caucasians). To be clear many white people were slaves in various countries, cultures, and at different times. Iran "officially" stopped enslaving Ethiopians in 1989. But I doubt it has actually ended.
I don't agree with the final statement that current times are as open and progressive as ancient Egypt. Not with the rates of domestic violence, and not with how difficult it is to acquire a divorce.
I like that the ancient Egyptians’ attitudes emphasized harmonious living. Flexible, balanced expression of power, like natural approach to things. Equal respect for masculine and feminine. In relationships, three’s a crowd, so discouraged at all costs! Unnatural. If 3 was meant humans would have 3 arms, three eyes… follow me? Just greedy. Divorce was so easy, if they weren’t happy, just move on or stay free and do what you want to do! Maybe the reason for all that treachery in royal couplings, all those concubines, power and politics by other means. Bloodline wins the day! I also believe reverence for something bigger than themselves brought a feeling of safety and order and stability to life. In short, they felt loved, makes you feel more secure. Made for nice poetry, too! Sad that way of life got twisted over the eons. We moderns need to chill out!
There are a lot of tribes throughout North and South America, each with their own systems and culture. Do you have a tribe in mind? Trying to research the vast amount of tribes that have their histories intact would take a long time.
It’s crazy to think the Middle East was safe asf for women and had women on equal terms almost with men but nowadays it’s a unsafe place for women it’s crazy how drastically things changed there they really went backwards with their values it’s sad
Hey I don't know if u were saying that just in general but if it's with respect to this video Egypt is in Africa n not the middle east, I'm sure u know that but just in case😊
@@bitanyagidey1810 Just in case you fell on your head when you were a kid let me explain to you that you can be part of a continent and at the same time part of a geopolitical entity. For example, the near east is part of Asia, Euroasia and people call it the near east. I understand you most likely are black and think Egypt was inhabited by black people. But here's the thing you are wrong. Egyptians modern and ancient share a significant genetic affinity with levant neolithic. We know that southern Egyptians had and still have a sizable subshahran admixture but they're not black.
@@akutagawaryunosuke4851 I'm not sure why you were triggered enough to insult me about it but okay. Here's the thing tho, i never said anything about them being black or not. I simply said that they are and were Africans, which is unequivocally true. Being African and being black aren't strictly simultaneously. You can be white and still be an African, just like white south africans. But you are assuming as such and in addition to your whole "they are not black!" thing, even though there are Egyptians that would be considered as black, and also your completely unnecessary outburst is leading me to believe that you are just a racist or in a racist mindset as it is a common belief of white supremacists and colonizers to think that advanced civilizations could definitely not come from Africa or black people or atleast those they perceive as black. So i will not fault you for being a rude person but maybe u should think about being nicer to people especially those that haven't done shit to you😂 but anyways, have the day you deserve 👋
Man, I don't think Ancient Egypt would have been too horrible in these standards. I love that divorce wasn't looked down on when arranged marriages are the norm. You don't just "fall in love" with people you're forced to be married to. Very small percentage. Friends maybe, but what happens when you find your "soul mate" and you're already married? Not allowing divorce encourages infidelity.
This is all really interesting, I would have loved to learn about same sex relationships in ancient Egypt too. Were they acceptable? Common place? Were they as simple as the heterosexual marriages? Was it okay to have a same sex relationship as long as it was before marriage? It would be fascinating to know
im sure they were. In Africa, it was normal for ppl to have sexual relationships with whomever prior to marriage. In some places, same sex pairing were encouraged as it prevented early pregnacies. Homophabia arrived to the continent primarily via european colonisation. They were massive prudes.
@@antwainclarke3406 that actually not true they were never mentioned or written about and one thing about Egyptians is they don't write about what they don't like l am Egyptian so it's a well known fact that they destrode any the history of the Pharaohs they didn't like
@@antwainclarke3406 Africa is a continent. It's literally like saying all of Americans speak the lame Spanish. It's not accurate and changes from country to country within the continent. Egypt is a country within Africa.
I'm surprised this came up in my recommendations, but I actually love it since I'm writing a story that I want to be as accurate as possible to the ancient Egypt (+magic) for a dnd campaign. And it actually starts with a marriage
Wow, I can’t believe how similar their ideas around marriage and divorce are to modern time! Is there any evidence that modern laws regarding this were influenced by Egyptian ones?
This early civilization had A LOT of things before their time and helped to shape other civilizations around the world. Men could only get a wife if they had a job and could take care of their wife.👏👏. I love it.
It should be mentioned also that the pharaohs married their sisters who became their first wives. This was done in order to keep the blood Royal…and of course led to inbreeding. The Egyptian Parthenon consisted of brothers marrying sisters.
There’s nothing weird about ancient Egypt and marriage/divorce. It sounds perfectly women friendly and down right fair. Sounds a lot like marriage/divorce standards today in the US. Coincidence I think not. (One Dollar bill)
Tut's wife was actually named Ankh-es-en-amun (means something like "She whose life is of Amun"); I love the Mummy, but they either mispronounced her name, or they gave her a similar (but different) name (Anakhsunamun), or they used a different pronunciation guide to fill in the vowels, since Ancient Egyptians did not always write those in
Egypt seems more open-minded than a lot of countries these days. They left people to live in ways that made them happy and didn’t take away their freedom to choose what they wanted to do with their bodies. I’m from a pretty progressive country but there are a couple places I can think of that need to keep their noses out of private citizens’ business
Ok so, Women were free to do what they wanted. But, they were also married off at first mark of womanhood. So 10-14 years old. I just do not envision a girl under the age of 9 seeking such an intimate relationship, unless forced. Though the freedom strikes some modern women as awesome or liberating, when you think of the ages it changes the picture a bit. Just my thoughts. What do you think?
I agree it’s complicated. At least we can assume they were the same age. Whats worse is a man in his 50s marrying a 6 year old and consummating the marriage when she was 9. That was Mohammed some centuries later. He is the apparent perfect example and a blessing to all humans. Mind boggling.
@@chatonmignon8724 what about the matrilineal society, divine kingship as well as rituals like circumscision that are almost exclusively practiced in Ancient africa at the time ?
@@sankh4914 Herodotus was talking about Egypian and Etyopian as different population. Colchidian (Georgia-causian) doing that too. First Egyptian the others imited them ... "Bas-relief illustrating the ritual of circumcision, tomb of Ankhmahor, Saqqara, EgyptEven the historian Herodotus, in his time (5th century BC), got lost in it: Colchidians [Georgia],, the Egyptians and the Ethiopians are the only peoples who have always practiced circumcision. The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine acknowledge that they inherited this usage from the Egyptians; the Syrians established in the valley of Thermodon [Cappadocia] claim to have recently borrowed it from the Colchidians. From the Colchidian(Georgia), the Egyptians and the Ethiopians, I cannot say which people took this custom from the other, because it is obviously one of the oldest” (History, II)."
@@sankh4914 North Africa not black Africa. You have to accept this difference. The North African and bantu-Congo-subsaharian African. It's different ethny. In Asia you have Mongol population what we call Asian people and other ethniy like indo-European and Semitic population. The Persian or Arab have nothing to do with Chinese same the north African have nothing to do with sub-saharian people.
If I'm not wrong many Christians communities allow gay marriage atleast in western countries. And in the new testament there's nothing specifically against LGBT. But Islam on the other forbids gay relationships completely.
If there is one alternate history I would like to see, it would be Egypt as a Coptic Christian nation under the rule of the Pharaoh that allowed both Christians and believers of Kemetism to coexist with one another. Why? Because Ancient Egyptian seemed to be the best ancient civilization to ever exist! Well, for me, at least because they practice social equality.
The poor people died at 30 years old and the rich lives until 60 years ! I prefer the civilisation like native north american with less social difference.
This is not really “ancient Egypt” you are describing. Herodotus visited Egypt during the Late Period. Which was a time period in which native Egyptian control over Egypt had recently been reinstated after periods of Nubian, Persian, and neo-Assyrian control. So it while it was certainly more Egyptian and had more to do with “ancient Egypt” than Hellenistic Egypt which was still to come (always cracks me up when people refer to Cleopatra as an “ancient Egyptian” or, slightly off topic, try to argue she was black... somehow? For some reason? She was Greek.) I still think it’s prudent to point out this was time period of revival. Not a time period during which the core of Ancient Egypt was thriving. I’m not really explaining this well... Leta just say they weren’t building pyramids at this time. I mean the pyramids at Giza were built over 2,000 years before Herodotus cane to Egypt and even the New Kingdom is around 1,000 years gone at this point...
Actually this is kind of ancient Egypt you are describing... I guess. But bookending the things with, “this is what Herodotus saw when he came to Egypt...” Kind of misleading...
Cleopatra's father was Greek (Not meaning he was white) but her Mother Was Afrikan (you are can not be a true Egyptians (Kemetian) anything if you didn't come from that Royal Line. Ancient Egyptians are not white (never have been) and (white) Europeans are not Indigenous to Afrika.
A little note is that the image shown at 4:46 is actually a color plate taken from a National Geographic story about Egypt published in October of 1941.
4:02 why do the Ancient Egyptian look like Europeans in this picture???? I personally think In this picture the people look Serbian 🤔 funny thing is in the next picture at 4:10 it shows how Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves but there are a lot of people that are unhappy with that.
Art major here. Judging from the look of the painting it was probably done close to the Renaissance, so the Egyptians likely look like Europeans because those were the people the artist had nearby to use as models.
@@KaiSani Just because someone made up a new name for them a few years ago doesn't mean it's any more real. There actually were humans here before the Indians. And most American Indians originated from Asia.
Is no one gonna mention the way he put his whole narrussy into narrating those poems and then completely went back to the info like he didn’t get down with that sensual shit?? 👁👄👁
your hand is in my hand, my body trembles with joy, my heart is exalt she is more beautiful than any other girl, she is like a star rising with beautiful eyes for looking and sweet lips for kissing how sweet!
If you all want to discuss Egypt after European defeat...have a go at it. Any talk of Egypt prior to European defeat will forever be beyond your comprehension. Not trying to be rude...it's just factual.
Major error. No depictions of King Tut's queen on the tomb walls. The affectionate pictures were on various objects: a throne, a lamp, a chest, and a small shrine.
And most of those objects weren't made for him. As he died so sudden and early there was literally no time to muster a burial worthy a Pharao. So they improvised.
No surprise Herodotus was uncomfortable in Egypt. He was disgusted to see Egyptian women enjoying freedom and given respect by men. What a contrast to Athenian society where women were virtual slaves having no freedom, regarded as stupid, deceitful and inferior. The love of an older man to a teenage boy was of a higher order and celebrated. Women only existed to bear children for men. Why were the ancient Greeks so hostile to females?
Because they're sill pissed that the Trojan War was started inadvertently by a bunch of goddesses fighting over a f*king apple
(Yes this is a joke about the apple of discord. Look it up)
Literally same here in India. Probably something to do with tibal mentality in Aryan culture, Idk.
Simply because Egypt was more hedonistic doesn't mean they were less of a patriarchy than any other empire of the Ancient world. There were many aspects of Ancient Egypt which was not ideal for females. Also Egypt was just as homosexual as Greece so I'm not sure what implication you were trying to make with that.
Because they were jealous of the very beings they wanted to be. Smh
Egypt had an extremely ridged gender based system that granted women many freedoms but excluded them from thousands more. There’s a reason Hatshepsut presented herself male conforming, women were not to be Pharaohs. Women could be reagents, but only a male could be Pharaoh. It’s what makes Hatshepsut so extraordinary; her reign remains to us in the Egyptian record, and while Thutmosis III did have her name removed on most monuments, many Egyptian anthropologists believe that he removed her name as not to offend the gods and preserve her form in the afterlife, as the transition between the rule of the two was seamless. The problem arises when your female pharaoh must now face the judgement of the gods. Should a ruler as beloved and effective as Hatshepsut suffer eternal damnation? Evidence is strong that Thutmosis’s removal of her cartouches name may have been to preserve her eternal life. His erasure attempts are half hearted and sloppy at best.
Actually a royal little girl did learn housekeeping, except she was taught management rather than practical labor. A large part of her duties as a royal wife and mother were to properly regulate their very large households.
so lika CEO managing the company?
Proof?
I don’t think anyone should dismiss the practices of a society that lasted for 3,000 years. No other society has come close to lasting as long as the Egyptians. There is a lot of wisdom to take from it if you want a society that is sustainable and can withstand many eras.
See I agree with you. Not even in specific civilizations , however the family unit and gender roles did get the human race this far. I don't know why modern society is so hell bent on villianizing it. It's like millions of years of biological evolution are just being completely ignored for the sake of "progressiveness". Males are designed differently than females, they evolved for seperate jobs for the same goal. That's just biological reality, not mysogenist.
Ancient Ireland had similar cultural practices, and so did some of the indigenous tribes of the U.S.
@@kristingallo2158 Because not everyone wants to do those things. You should be more respectful.
@@milkandspice1074 So basic biological evolution offends you because you don't want to and I'm disrespectful for pointing out why civilizations across the globe had the same type of situation. So how's society going since we decided "we don't want to" anymore. Do you think the modern west will last as long as Egypt?
@@milkandspice1074 you seem to like west Africa allot. West Africa still uses traditional gender roles and has strict laws regarding family , including the death penalty for people who commit adultery. Also very strict laws on homosexuality. You're kind of a hypocrite tbh.
As far as I'm aware ancient Egypt is the most female friendly place you could travel back in time to
Yup!
Ancient Sparta as well
Pre colonial Philippines was probably the best or one of the best
@@gorexio764
Weren't they pretty aggressive in Sparta? Maybe I'm wrong about this but isn't the whole grease Rome area kind of anti woman
@@نجمة-ت8د
I unfortunately do not know much about the Philippines... like next to nothing 😓
I found out about this just recently but preislamic Turkic tribes in Asia were the pinnacle of equality that I have never heard of before. Women were raised exactly the same as men, and this is exactly how it sounds. These people were warriors and nomads, which means if men go to war, so do women. They were trained their entire lives along with men, in archery, hands on combat, horse riding. A saying goes that "there was no such thing as a woman running away from a man", as men wouldn't dare insult a woman, and women could hold their own. A particular story explains how, due to possible danger, a wife waits with weapons at the door of the home, to defend her husband while he rests. There was also no such thing as "wife cooks men hunt and take care of the animals" (these people were nomads)- everything was done together and everyone was expected to participate. Some of them would later go to Byzantine empire as brides and were shocked at some treatment of women there, especially as they would be "dressed lavishly" and expected to look pretty and smile while these women were pretty much trained to fight their entire lives.
Press X for doubt. Women are 62% weaker by body weight. No amount of training can overcome such a large biological deficit. To put it into perspective if the average male at the time was 150lbs a woman would have to weigh 243lbs to be as strong as him. Even women today that are juiced to the gills with anabolic steroids don't get that big. Like the shieldmaidens of the vikings, women soldiers were used as last ditch defense and them entering combat basically meant the fight was over and their job was to inflict as much damage on the enemy as they could muster before being inevitably overwhelmed.
@@paulmememan508 lol she never said men and women are biologically the same… she literally just said they were trained to fight just like the men were
Also, the tactics used between smaller, thinner and shorter individuals are different from the tactics a more muscle bound, thicker, and taller individuals would use in a battle situation.
Edit: sentence structure.
@@alliewilliams9744 Yeah, I can train a toddler to man mounted machine gun but it doesn't mean they'll be effective in battle. The implication was still the fantasy of the warrior woman being an effective military unit. The reason why no society did it, is because anyone that tried found out it didn't work. Women were more valuable creating more future soldiers than trying to fight.
@@socialdistancingon8333 Except women are so weak they couldn't even operate the pull on a long bow which would require 150-200lbs of force to pull. Long range weapons are the only conceivable situation they'd be useful in a battle. In any melee combat they are weaker, slower and cannot fight in heavy armor. Even in terms of reaction time women are 10 times slower to react to novel stimuli.
So, ancient Egypt was more advanced, developed and women friendly than today's Egypt.
Right!
Not exactly. There were many benefits to being a woman in ancient Egypt, however there was still a great deal of sexist way of thinking and gender roles. You almost never see a female pharaoh ruling on her own, though they do exist but their names are few and far in between. Most roles of administration and government were fulfilled by men. Male heirs were priorities over female despite women could inherit and own property. In ancient Egyptian literature, women were described as being frivolous and untrustworthy. And to say that pre-Islamic Egypt offers more development and female social standing than Islamic Egypt sounds a bit Islamaphobic and skates the line of stereotypes about North African and Middle Eastern cultures
yes . the Black Africans that were the Ancient egyptians were not the muslim occupants of today .
مصر ليست متقدمة
ليس سبب دور مرأه
السبب هو استبداد و ظلم حكام و فقر
@@Casanova102986 not only black africans were ruling and inhabiting ancient egypt.
I wasn't expecting such modernistic views about love and marriage in such an ancient civilization. It was a delightful surprise for me.
Wow..do you realise we are the stupidest people ever but pretend to be wiser than the peope before us that paved the way for us.
@@librialdevelopment5354 I get what you're saying. I guess it's the flaw of being human being.
@@vinadevdutt4542 exactly..in Egypt every child has to learn and master there fathers trade..trades thats been passed down for centuries without them we would be nothing
@@librialdevelopment5354 Because people are so arrogant nowadays
So you have never heard of Gandharva Vivah?
It’s important to remember when using written Egyptian sources that they would only write about how the world should be, never if it had gone a way it shouldn’t. They believed strongly that the written word carried magic power and that to write anything down may bring it to come. Ancient Egyptians never wrote about bad things that would happen, for fear they would breath the bad life. So when there’s no written record about if there were sex workers, it’s probably because sex work was antithetical to the Ancient Egyptian view of balance and harmony being preserved at all times. It’s preposterous that in a civilization spanning the course of 3,000 years there were no sex workers. There were sex workers. The scribe class never used the gift of Thoth to write about them.
There might not be because premarital sex wasn't a taboo and both men n women can have consensual sex.... The brothels exists bcz sex outside marriage is not considered good and men are useless to set up brothels to enjoy sex apart from his wife or before marriage... Egyptian were right.... Have sex with whoever you want or love for both men and women
@@debasmitapaul9511 I’m pretty sure plenty of married men in ancient Egypt were cheating on their wives with sex workers. Just because we don’t have empirical evidence for it, it’s biased to assume in the absence of said data it DIDNT exist, instead of acknowledging you just don’t have the empirical data to prove definitively it did. When anthropologists and archaeologists are faced with a situation like this, we turned to human behavior. Sex work has been a part of human culture since culture, perhaps even before. Humans love sex, and we will go out of our way to have it. It’s universal. So with that knowledge of human behavior, it’s bad science and bad historical interpretation to state that because we have no data, there for there were no sex workers.
@Nessa I was thinking that too
@@debasmitapaul9511 premarital sex isn’t a taboo in my culture nowadays either but there are still plenty of sex workers around
@@nessarigby5911 Men* love sex. Men* will go out of their way to have it.
Women couldn't go to brothels for funsies. Just to sell their bodies. Men got the fun sex. Women didn't. Sounds pretty shitty to me. But yeah, it will always be this way. With men having all the sex they want with all the women they want, and people saying this is natural. While women are punished. Amazing.
Idk why the thought of an ancient GREEK being uncomfortable with the egyptian culture cracks me the f**k up.....weren't they known for some seriously questionable stuff themselves??!!!!
Like huge orgies 😂
@@leonle924 to say the least. Man/boy loving is another example as well as the expression "going Greek" means butt buggery and the extreme like is another one that comes to mind. The fact that they were OBSESSED with the male genitalia entirely and they had SEVERAL phallic symbols all over the town much less in personal domicile doorways for good luck and prosperity....just to name a few. 🤣
@@bobbisparks53 I believe the man/boy love originated from Greek military life, you would be more inclined to fight with someone whom shared a sexual relationship with you.
Not to mention their obsession with smaller penises as it was believed to show dominance and power. Ancient greek culture was very weird but super progressive for their time, other than the mistreatment of women.
Homosexuality mainly not that homosexuality is questionable by any means but other cultures might have thought so in that era
All of you are wrong and I’m guessing extremely Caucasian
I love ancient Egypt so much, and I think the whole marriage thing should be like that to this day.
Feminist and egyptian women would never go for arranged marriages
@@sadetwizelve I could do with fewer arranged marriages
This are all theory and theories can be right and can be wrong. And Egyptian women in our modern days are very strong in fact they are known that they beat their husbands and this is a real fact 😁
@@ya7yalubnan That can't be a healthy ship
@@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen I think I might need one. Trying to find a man by myself isn’t working.
It’s actually really common in Africa during this time to find cultures where women shared in power and were relatively regarded as equal to men. Most earth based cultures are this way because their world view is governed by nature and the balance and harmony.
@Styliani lmao… they share thousands of years of culture and intersection with west Africa. The dogon share much of their language with Egypt because they left Egypt when it was Kemet as the successive invasions from the north occurred. There are tons of similarities in spiritual and scientific understanding, language, linguistics and culture of ancient Kemet and west Africa that indicate otherwise
@Styliani that’s literally such a ahistorical assertion.
@Styliani yes. I have. In relative depth. I’m certain you have not based on your myopy.
It sounds like they were pretty decent folks.
Pretty gross! Lice, crabs, all kinds of ailments. Incest, and they swang both ways.
@@angelafinley2662 data?
@@angelafinley2662 cool
@@angelafinley2662 that applies to any other civilizations during the time
@@yafetkasalie8070 has no data (because it did not happen minus incest , lices and crabs actually the romans had thouse , the egyptians had curios way to stop crabs and liceses , they would shave there constantly and took baths frequant also they would bathe in viniger after shaveing (yeah i know terrible stinging , but it worked ) to the point that romans thought they are crazy to shave there and any roman women would laugh at egyptian men that were shaved there
Also this is because religion and haveing body hair (especialy for noblity) was not godly and since egyptian gods are depicted hairless they also tried to not have hair
Romans had terrible STDs ,
Yeah .... idk why anyone wants to make anciant civilaizaitions so disgusting , dose everyone think that anciant people loved bad smelling stuff ? Not even medieval ages , one medieval queen did not want to shower and was ridiculed by every court a lord commented on her that she reeks and she said thank you (she was a crazy exeption ) actual true history is only available in private studies (schools dont want to teach it anymore )
ancient egypt literally does sound like it basically treated women as well as we do, at least in some respects. even just in the level of sexual freedom they had. i truly believe that the concept of virginity is an absolute stain on our culture.
Am I the only one who disagree, I mean with the exception of the lack of obsession of virginity I do not think it was that progressive
Well even though the word itself is useful, I agree. People get shamed whether they’re a virgin or not for so many different reasons when it shouldn’t be a big deal
The obsession of virginity is insane, but nothing wrong with virginity itself. Just the whole obsession about it being enforced onto girls and women is what makes it insane.
What about the paradox of declining female happiness?
@@paulmememan508 Men and women are suffering right now, and I'm gonna have to press x to doubt it's because women aren't focused on virginity. But in the same vein I am of the belief that sex is sacred and should be taken seriously.
Ironically, in modern Egypt you could get arrested for holding hands with your partner. Even if you’re married. Also if one of the couple has an Egyptian passport, you’re not allowed to share a hotel room with your partner if you’re not married to each other. I’m not sure exactly how seriously these rules are enforced but Egypt is definitely more conservative then it once was
Shit there goes my plan to see pyramids
Ancient Egypt = before the Assarians took it over and made it the miserable place it is now.
Except for the hotel part that is not true. And these rules are not enforced on outsiders
Because current Egypt is now a Muslim country… it’s more akin to a middle eastern country now.
That's not true at all
Partners can hold hands in public
This man has a great voice and sounds like one of my favorite radio hosts! Thanks for adding another layer to the information.
A comment on the short lifespan: Average lifespan includes the ages at death of the very young and the very old. Most babies in ancient times died before age 5 due to infection, injury, etc so that skews the average lifespan toward the low end. But people who survived childhood didn't just suddenly need caretakers and die of old age in their late 20s. I highly doubt folks were hobbling around wrinkled at 29. War, disease, childbirth complications, malnutrition - all reasons why people would die young. That doesn't mean everyone died before age 35.
no one said they were...
i understand your channel is all about "nutty" stuff but i don't see anything weird about the Ancient Egyptian marriage. in fact, they were The most genuine and civilized in this part in particular. love your videos btw.
With today's blasé attitude towards infidelity and singular parenthood being romanticized, this is nutty.
@@MickeyMallone. true though
Honey and crocodile dung as contraceptives.
There...that's the nutty thing you missed
This video was fascinating, it's amazing how advanced they were and knowing that girls were as important as boys is really refreshing!
I'm pleased to hear that there was no word for "virginity" in Ancient Egypt. I've always disliked this ridiculous notion that one's identity changes (or is sullied if you're female) once you engage in heterosexual intercourse.
And people who choose not to engage in sex at all don't need a label to separate them from those who do, there is no point.
Wait that's what it means in the states?
In asia if you had sex with anybody, regardless of gender, you're not a virgin anymore cause, well, you had sex. If you had sex with an animal (yes it is indeed disgusting) that also counts as you losing your virginity
@@bluekawashima-9012 Anywhere in the world, that's the meaning of it as well. It doesn't only have to be “heterosexual intercourse” like OP says.
'Virginity' wasn't invented because of identity, but we certainly think of it that way now. Identity was not something humans focused on during their evolution, "survival" was. Virginity was a means of survival for the following reasons: prevent unwanted pregnancy, and help ensure offspring and pregnant females are taken care off. If a woman got pregnant in caveman times, she could not take care of herself. Hunting and growing crops would be very difficult. (I lived off grid with three children for a time and it was difficult with advanced tech. It would have been impossible without technology. A cave girl's immediate family couldn't care for her due to short lifespans. Hence having a person committed to her before she had the chance of getting pregnant made sure that she and her offspring would survive. Multiple studies strongly suggest men are more likely to better take care of offspring emotionally if they are biologically their own. It's a shared trait with the animal kingdom where males will only care for offspring based on species and if they are biologically theirs. Due to this, women have evolved to actually have initial chemical release that bonds them emotionally. It only occurs during the first intercourse and each childbirth.
These comments are eye opening. I've lived in many places and NEVER have I heard that one's identity changes if you aren't a virgin. For backstory; Idaho, Washington, Oregon Montana, Connecticut, upstate New York, Georgia, Toronto, Ottawa, Pennsylvania, Illinois and now Utah. I've never heard of this ridiculous statement
It’s not that deep
Premarital sex was considered fine for women, which sounds great until you remember girls were married off by 10-12 yrs old. Having been widowed at 41, I do hope they are correct about being together in the afterlife.
That's a very important thing to remember when people are going on about how super great Ancient Egypt was for women.
People died at 35.
Also these marriages weren't copulated until the girl hit puberty. Ancient china had a similar system, where girls would join the husband's household early and be taught by the mother in law on how to care for the specific home and stuff. Men were often young too and the couple would grow up together making the bond stronger .
@@kristingallo2158 Actually the life expectancy was so low due to so many children dying, not that most died in their 30s. That is what brings down the average life expectancy for that time. An incredible number of young children died young, which drops the average, but if a child lived past the age of 5, they were then likely to live a pretty long life.
@@betsybabf748 Only upper classes. Lower classes died earlier do to the physical labor.
It's taken us 2000yrs to just get back to what ancient Egyptians already had. These guys were amazing 👏 Truly the GOAT 🐐
Woah, that’s so interesting :O this makes me want to look more into ancient Egypt
It sounds like a beautiful culture, not weird!
What I like the most about it is that they valued their children highly, boys and girls equally.
And their style, of course! They looked stunning.
I love this channel 😁 an I love the narrator, almost Morgan Freeman 👍🏻👍🏻 love the interesting historical facts mainstream history avoids.. I've always loved everything ancient Egyptian 👏🏻😲👍🏻👍🏻
Yh
It's so surprising to learn that they used to sign a contract for objects ownership before marriage ! I live in Egypt and they still carry this practice till today and call it (el-Qayma = the list) in it they list all the things the groom brought & the things the bride brought and sign it infront of witnesses so that in case of a divorce each party get their stuff or it's value in cash . I found it to be strange and pessimistic apparently it's just culture 🤣
That is completely mind blowing I love watching these videos so much
I'm really enjoying learning how different civilizations of Ancient Africa managed life. Africans were so advanced in areas that we in modern society can't seem to get right. Thanks for your work✌🏾❤🖤💚💛✌🏾
مصر لم تكن افريقية
شمال افريقيا ليسوا افارقة
Credit to Egyptians
Egyptians are Afro-Asiatic
Anything in the african continent is African ❤️
Africa is its own continent so we should ask the question how/why/when history started mixing her people🤔😒 ... Egyptians are African no matter how the story is twisted
You got me hooked on these vids
The ancient Egyptians are so fascinating. I’m truly obsessed.
I knew this, it's part of why it's one of my favorite ancient civilizations.
@7:18 ...Considering the life expectancy was mentioned to be 29-33, it really dawns on me that the elderly people that would have been being looked after were literally my age, 28. In ancient Egypt I am elderly and need caring for and would only have a few years left in me, so weird.
yeah you must have gotten something twisted up there, average live expectancy doesn't mean the oldest age that people ever reach and a low life expectancy usually results from high infant mortality rates, not people suddenly dropping dead at 28. even back in those days, people dying between 70 and 90 wasn't a rarity. so no, you wouldn't be considered an elderly person in need of care.
@@larapohrsch9789 oh, that sounds much better!
@@ibanez856 men also worked very dangerous jobs while many women died in childbirth. Which is why the upperclass live the same ages as us, they were the only ones with health and safety lmao and had access to better healthcare than the peasants. - > Which is why USA life expectancy is quite low for a Western country
God put our Life expectancy at 120.
Moses and others reached Age 700+
Keep up the great work. You’re the best teacher.
I love it! They seemed very.....Egyptian! I mean what would you expect from such a beautiful nation!
Yes they weren't neither black nor white.
@@user-ow1qs7jo7f what's that?
My dad is from Cairo, Egypt. He recently told me that his dad owned a pharmacy in Cairo and invented/sold a version of Viagra before it even existed on the market.
تلاقيها كانت حشيش
Egyptian man I’ve met now are hella sexist. This says pre-muslim. What’s your experience?
Herodotus just had culture shock 😂
This is so eye-opening! Thanks for such a great vid!🐰🌼
It looks like they knew what marriage was all about.
Ancient Egypt was so great. Huge respect for them
I would love it if you could do more coverage of ancient Greece I’m totally fascinated by it. Also what it would’ve been like to live in Mesopotamia and ancient first cities like some of the first cities in the world I wonder what the cultures were like there? I love your videos good job.
Can we agree to finally have an Egyptian TV series just like Spartacus and Vikings... It's about TIME tho.
I would pay good money for this!!
Only if the cast is actually Egyptians and not Negros. A world of difference and I'm sick of people glorifying Negros just because ignorant people think that ONLY Negros suffered slavery. Many Occidentals (which may include some Caucasians). To be clear many white people were slaves in various countries, cultures, and at different times. Iran "officially" stopped enslaving Ethiopians in 1989. But I doubt it has actually ended.
@@TheAlvoss wtf
@jody look up KING TUT
I don't agree with the final statement that current times are as open and progressive as ancient Egypt. Not with the rates of domestic violence, and not with how difficult it is to acquire a divorce.
I like that the ancient Egyptians’ attitudes emphasized harmonious living. Flexible, balanced expression of power, like natural approach to things. Equal respect for masculine and feminine. In relationships, three’s a crowd, so discouraged at all costs! Unnatural. If 3 was meant humans would have 3 arms, three eyes… follow me? Just greedy. Divorce was so easy, if they weren’t happy, just move on or stay free and do what you want to do! Maybe the reason for all that treachery in royal couplings, all those concubines, power and politics by other means. Bloodline wins the day! I also believe reverence for something bigger than themselves brought a feeling of safety and order and stability to life. In short, they felt loved, makes you feel more secure. Made for nice poetry, too! Sad that way of life got twisted over the eons. We moderns need to chill out!
Can you do marriage of native Americans history
Yes please
There are a lot of tribes throughout North and South America, each with their own systems and culture. Do you have a tribe in mind? Trying to research the vast amount of tribes that have their histories intact would take a long time.
It’s crazy to think the Middle East was safe asf for women and had women on equal terms almost with men but nowadays it’s a unsafe place for women it’s crazy how drastically things changed there they really went backwards with their values it’s sad
Hey I don't know if u were saying that just in general but if it's with respect to this video Egypt is in Africa n not the middle east, I'm sure u know that but just in case😊
Lol egypt is in africa not middle east
@@bitanyagidey1810
Just in case you fell on your head when you were a kid let me explain to you that you can be part of a continent and at the same time part of a geopolitical entity. For example, the near east is part of Asia, Euroasia and people call it the near east. I understand you most likely are black and think Egypt was inhabited by black people. But here's the thing you are wrong. Egyptians modern and ancient share a significant genetic affinity with levant neolithic. We know that southern Egyptians had and still have a sizable subshahran admixture but they're not black.
@@bitanyagidey1810 The ancien Egytian are in north africa and if you take a map you will see that Egypte is closer to Israel than Congo !
@@akutagawaryunosuke4851 I'm not sure why you were triggered enough to insult me about it but okay. Here's the thing tho, i never said anything about them being black or not. I simply said that they are and were Africans, which is unequivocally true. Being African and being black aren't strictly simultaneously. You can be white and still be an African, just like white south africans. But you are assuming as such and in addition to your whole "they are not black!" thing, even though there are Egyptians that would be considered as black, and also your completely unnecessary outburst is leading me to believe that you are just a racist or in a racist mindset as it is a common belief of white supremacists and colonizers to think that advanced civilizations could definitely not come from Africa or black people or atleast those they perceive as black. So i will not fault you for being a rude person but maybe u should think about being nicer to people especially those that haven't done shit to you😂 but anyways, have the day you deserve 👋
Man, I don't think Ancient Egypt would have been too horrible in these standards. I love that divorce wasn't looked down on when arranged marriages are the norm. You don't just "fall in love" with people you're forced to be married to. Very small percentage. Friends maybe, but what happens when you find your "soul mate" and you're already married? Not allowing divorce encourages infidelity.
No it doest. Two immoral people cause infidelity. No such thing as a soul mate especially for women.
I love this channel !
Marriage Is weird now in 2022 lol. Over half of them end in divorce, yet ppl still do it 🤷🏾♀️
I am very surprised. I think it's really cool how open they were.
This is all really interesting, I would have loved to learn about same sex relationships in ancient Egypt too. Were they acceptable? Common place? Were they as simple as the heterosexual marriages? Was it okay to have a same sex relationship as long as it was before marriage? It would be fascinating to know
im sure they were. In Africa, it was normal for ppl to have sexual relationships with whomever prior to marriage. In some places, same sex pairing were encouraged as it prevented early pregnacies. Homophabia arrived to the continent primarily via european colonisation. They were massive prudes.
@@antwainclarke3406 that actually not true they were never mentioned or written about and one thing about Egyptians is they don't write about what they don't like l am Egyptian so it's a well known fact that they destrode any the history of the Pharaohs they didn't like
@@tokalayman3842 I said Africa
@@antwainclarke3406 Africa is a continent. It's literally like saying all of Americans speak the lame Spanish. It's not accurate and changes from country to country within the continent. Egypt is a country within Africa.
@@sekac2140 some one that knows that Egypt is mostly in Africa thank god
I'm surprised this came up in my recommendations, but I actually love it since I'm writing a story that I want to be as accurate as possible to the ancient Egypt (+magic) for a dnd campaign. And it actually starts with a marriage
Anka-Cinnamon?? You didn't see the Mummy, did you?
Apparently, people think my wife is a cinnamon roll
Wow, I can’t believe how similar their ideas around marriage and divorce are to modern time! Is there any evidence that modern laws regarding this were influenced by Egyptian ones?
there's a freaking pyramid on our American money...
them poem writers got game
This was REALLY interesting!
Wow the divorce preceedings in ancient Egypt were insanely ahead of their time.
This early civilization had A LOT of things before their time and helped to shape other civilizations around the world. Men could only get a wife if they had a job and could take care of their wife.👏👏. I love it.
It should be mentioned also that the pharaohs married their sisters who became their first wives. This was done in order to keep the blood Royal…and of course led to inbreeding.
The Egyptian Parthenon consisted of brothers marrying sisters.
I had a sister that I would have married were it legal. She agreed and we both agreed that there would be only adopted children, not biological kids.
@@TheAlvoss uh........
Randomly came across this. Really surprised. They were so ahead of their time. Very enlightening
There’s nothing weird about ancient Egypt and marriage/divorce. It sounds perfectly women friendly and down right fair. Sounds a lot like marriage/divorce standards today in the US. Coincidence I think not. (One Dollar bill)
Thats why they went extinct.
@@librialdevelopment5354 come on. You know that’s not true.
@@account_nameonline6420 think about it..the moment you go again what Is natural things will go bad
This was really fascinating. Refreshing even.
What painting is that at 3:31, it's beautiful
The Obsequies of an Egyptian Cat
Very interesting!
'Ank-cinnamin' lmao, try
Anahk-soon-amun
Sounds the same to me
Tut's wife was actually named Ankh-es-en-amun (means something like "She whose life is of Amun"); I love the Mummy, but they either mispronounced her name, or they gave her a similar (but different) name (Anakhsunamun), or they used a different pronunciation guide to fill in the vowels, since Ancient Egyptians did not always write those in
It's pronounced: Ankh-ah-son-ah-men
@@Pharaoh_Tutankhamen no....amun. as in the God Amun.....lmao
@@0hMyLife I know, I was just saying how it was pronounced
Egypt seems more open-minded than a lot of countries these days. They left people to live in ways that made them happy and didn’t take away their freedom to choose what they wanted to do with their bodies. I’m from a pretty progressive country but there are a couple places I can think of that need to keep their noses out of private citizens’ business
Ancient Egypt definitely was progressive, but egypt today is definitely not.
wtf is a progressive country
Very interesting video. Makes me appreciate them more.
Wonder what the info sources are though. We'd love to see it too. 👍
Ancient Egypt looks more modern than modern time today
Thank you!
Ok so, Women were free to do what they wanted. But, they were also married off at first mark of womanhood. So 10-14 years old. I just do not envision a girl under the age of 9 seeking such an intimate relationship, unless forced. Though the freedom strikes some modern women as awesome or liberating, when you think of the ages it changes the picture a bit. Just my thoughts. What do you think?
I agree it’s complicated. At least we can assume they were the same age. Whats worse is a man in his 50s marrying a 6 year old and consummating the marriage when she was 9. That was Mohammed some centuries later. He is the apparent perfect example and a blessing to all humans. Mind boggling.
@@account_nameonline6420 He is
@@ottomanpapyrus9365 how?
@@account_nameonline6420 He spoke with the Lord
@@ottomanpapyrus9365 more like spoke with himself and made it up!
Love this video, History in general.
Ugh, how is ancient Egypt more progressive than we are today???
Monotheistic religions are more rigorous than polytheistic religions. The Bible is very hard on Babylon, whom she called a prostitute.
Oh yea that part... & the royal family married not only half siblings but full siblings, the royal family tree looked like a ladder...
This was good content 😂💯
Ancient egyptian culture is only odd if compared to Eurasian civilizations....if you look to the African Interior everything makes sense.
Nothing to do with black Africa, polytheistic religions are more flexible than monotheistic religions.
@@chatonmignon8724 what about the matrilineal society, divine kingship as well as rituals like circumscision that are almost exclusively practiced in Ancient africa at the time ?
@@sankh4914
Herodotus was talking about Egypian and Etyopian as different population. Colchidian (Georgia-causian) doing that too. First Egyptian the others imited them ...
"Bas-relief illustrating the ritual of circumcision, tomb of Ankhmahor, Saqqara, EgyptEven the historian Herodotus, in his time (5th century BC), got lost in it: Colchidians [Georgia],, the Egyptians and the Ethiopians are the only peoples who have always practiced circumcision. The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine acknowledge that they inherited this usage from the Egyptians; the Syrians established in the valley of Thermodon [Cappadocia] claim to have recently borrowed it from the Colchidians. From the Colchidian(Georgia), the Egyptians and the Ethiopians, I cannot say which people took this custom from the other, because it is obviously one of the oldest” (History, II)."
@@chatonmignon8724 All evidence points to the fact that circumscision was first practiced in Africa. It can also be found in Far East Asia.
@@sankh4914 North Africa not black Africa. You have to accept this difference. The North African and bantu-Congo-subsaharian African. It's different ethny.
In Asia you have Mongol population what we call Asian people and other ethniy like indo-European and Semitic population. The Persian or Arab have nothing to do with Chinese same the north African have nothing to do with sub-saharian people.
I can’t understand all off this video but I love it, I hope if we have been such our past!
This is why it makes me laugh when Christians say gays can't get married because it goes against their book, they act as if they invented marriage
lmfao right
Well God did created male and female so that's that and qu'ers would be illegal again pretty soon
If I'm not wrong many Christians communities allow gay marriage atleast in western countries. And in the new testament there's nothing specifically against LGBT. But Islam on the other forbids gay relationships completely.
@@khristiec6863 good
You forgot the two other Abrahamic religions that say the same thing since it’s not just a Christian belief.
Would love more about before Egypt became Egypt.
If there is one alternate history I would like to see, it would be Egypt as a Coptic Christian nation under the rule of the Pharaoh that allowed both Christians and believers of Kemetism to coexist with one another. Why? Because Ancient Egyptian seemed to be the best ancient civilization to ever exist! Well, for me, at least because they practice social equality.
The poor people died at 30 years old and the rich lives until 60 years !
I prefer the civilisation like native north american with less social difference.
social equality isn't good, its a modern regressive concept
nice and very informing video , can you please make the same one about ancient greeks , thank you :)
May be you should also talk about the Vedic India or pre Vedic India
That must be fascinating too.
YES!!!!
In some tribes in Africa they still do it. ❤️
This is not really “ancient Egypt” you are describing. Herodotus visited Egypt during the Late Period. Which was a time period in which native Egyptian control over Egypt had recently been reinstated after periods of Nubian, Persian, and neo-Assyrian control. So it while it was certainly more Egyptian and had more to do with “ancient Egypt” than Hellenistic Egypt which was still to come (always cracks me up when people refer to Cleopatra as an “ancient Egyptian” or, slightly off topic, try to argue she was black... somehow? For some reason? She was Greek.) I still think it’s prudent to point out this was time period of revival. Not a time period during which the core of Ancient Egypt was thriving. I’m not really explaining this well... Leta just say they weren’t building pyramids at this time. I mean the pyramids at Giza were built over 2,000 years before Herodotus cane to Egypt and even the New Kingdom is around 1,000 years gone at this point...
King Tut has been dead for 900 years...
I mean 900 years is a long time...
Actually this is kind of ancient Egypt you are describing... I guess. But bookending the things with, “this is what Herodotus saw when he came to Egypt...” Kind of misleading...
Cleopatra's father was Greek (Not meaning he was white) but her Mother Was Afrikan (you are can not be a true Egyptians (Kemetian) anything if you didn't come from that Royal Line. Ancient Egyptians are not white (never have been) and (white) Europeans are not Indigenous to Afrika.
@@MedjayCommander I just had a stroke trying to make sense of this comment.
@@peepeepoopoo8692 Read it slowly
A little note is that the image shown at 4:46 is actually a color plate taken from a National Geographic story about Egypt published in October of 1941.
Rarely hear about the life of average ancient Egyptians. It’s always about the royals
sounds like the most morally sound view of love/marriage out of the ancient societies i’m aware of
“In romantic poses” pic of her serving him… 🙄
POV: it’s 12:52 at night and this popped up on your page
4:02 why do the Ancient Egyptian look like Europeans in this picture???? I personally think In this picture the people look Serbian 🤔 funny thing is in the next picture at 4:10 it shows how Ancient Egyptians depicted themselves but there are a lot of people that are unhappy with that.
Shhh, don’t speak about it. We have to ignore how ancient Egyptians depicted themselves in favor of how “others” depicted them.
@@jeanbastien9424 loool nice one
Art major here. Judging from the look of the painting it was probably done close to the Renaissance, so the Egyptians likely look like Europeans because those were the people the artist had nearby to use as models.
@@vernandsockey8611 good eyes there 👍🏿 must be technical in judging what era a painting is from
A lot of north African look same.
I appreciate everything you said. Please tell us more and what if the couple didn’t understand marriage 😅
Out of that whole video the thing the only thing that made me take a pause was hearing a grown man call a woman’s period her “menses.”
Menses is another term for period
That’s what it’s called lol
You're shocked that an adult male used a scientific term?
What's abnormal about it?
It’s just another term! No big deal
I'd like to see some citations for the information presented. It's very interesting, but where did this info come from?
I'd like to see a lot more videos about about the sex practices of ancient civilizations. How about the American indians?
Relax
@@lululemon1517 😆
down bad
They’re not Indians at all. They’re native Americans
@@KaiSani Just because someone made up a new name for them a few years ago doesn't mean it's any more real. There actually were humans here before the Indians. And most American Indians originated from Asia.
Awesome content
Is no one gonna mention the way he put his whole narrussy into narrating those poems and then completely went back to the info like he didn’t get down with that sensual shit?? 👁👄👁
As far as the ancient Egypt goes, they were the most chilled and normal
your hand is in my hand, my body trembles with joy, my heart is exalt
she is more beautiful than any other girl, she is like a star rising with beautiful eyes for looking and sweet lips for kissing
how sweet!
It reminded me of my characters' romance :)
The images in the background are funny af lol
If you all want to discuss Egypt after European defeat...have a go at it. Any talk of Egypt prior to European defeat will forever be beyond your comprehension. Not trying to be rude...it's just factual.
Where did you find this information
Major error. No depictions of King Tut's queen on the tomb walls. The affectionate pictures were on various objects: a throne, a lamp, a chest, and a small shrine.
And most of those objects weren't made for him. As he died so sudden and early there was literally no time to muster a burial worthy a Pharao. So they improvised.
I adore at the pictures of just sand with no trees or lush foliage. Philadelphia USA
I wouldn't call it "weird" -- sounds a lot more fair than other societies at the time and even recently