Snap-on’s 7” Diagonal Cutters the same as Icons New 7” Diagonal Cutters? Let’s Test Them Out!
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- We put Snap-on 7” Vector Edge Diagonal Cutters up against Icons New 7” Diagonal Cutters. Are they the same, or is one better than the other? Tune in as we dive in.
Snap on 7" VectorEdge Diagonal Cutter (Red)
Item no :87ACF
Link:
shop.snapon.co...
Features
• Cold forged alloy steel ensures strength and durability for years of reliable performance
• Differential heat treatment produces strength and durability in specific locations to handle tough cuts
• VectorEdge tightly toleranced, induction-hardened, parallel cutting edges are engineered to provide repeated cuts of hard wire, soft wire, spring steel and cable ties at all locations along the blades
• Cushioned plastisol handles for comfort and leverage to reduce fatigue
Specifications
Dimension B, Jaw Length, inches 13/16
Dimension C, Overall Length, inches 7-3/8
Country Of Origin USA
Dimension A, Handle Type Bowed
Jaw Type VectorEdge
Finish Natural
Warranty
Lifetime Warranty, Non-Repairable, Warrantied for Materials and Workmanship/for as long as purchaser owns the Tools.
Harbor Freights Icon 7 in. Diagonal Cutter
Link:
www.harborfrei...
PRODUCT OVERVIEW
The ICON™ 7 in. Diagonal Cutter has advanced induction-hardened cutting edges for long lasting sharpness. The cutting edges are engineered for repeated cuts in hard wire, soft wire, spring steel, and cable ties. Like all ICON™ hand tools, these diagonal cutter pliers are backed by a hassle-free, manufacturer's lifetime warranty.
Forged alloy steel for maximum strength and durability
Dipped cushion handles for a comfortable grip
Lifetime warranty
SPECIFICATIONS
SKU(s) 59168
Brand ICON
Model PDC7
Jaw opening 5/8 in.
Material Forged alloy steel
Product Weight 0.75 lb.
Shipping Weight 0.79 lb.
Size(s) 7 in.
Please let us know if your experiences with these tools.
I like that the icon brand exists, you can get snap-on style tools at a fraction of the price. And a lot of harbor freight’s tools are good store brand tools, for people looking to find the new sears craftsman. And the icon 3/8 drive flex head ratchet with the “grip” seems slightly better than a similar snap-on (that I got at a tag sale)
Yea you can’t count them out based on their name alone. Some good things can now be found under the icon line. Thanks for sharing!
A lot of knock-off copies are built to inferior quality. These icons are built to arguably equal quality. I have both and I'm impressed with the Icons. I like the tackiness of the SO grips better, but the icon grips are still really good.
@@RedShiftedDollar thanks for commenting. I also realize that the grips are still different from each other and most of the SO are tackier but also have a little less cushioning. Please consider subscribing as I’ll be reviewing more Snap Ons in the near future.
@@ThingsMen Subbed 👍
I just got these and the 8"needle nose and the icon hose gripper pliers they seem to be pretty nice,time will tell
Thanks for sharing. We like these as well. We do have our eyes on the needle nose pliers as well.
The first pair of hose grippers I bought I didn’t examine them in the store and the tips were really poorly formed. But the second pair is fine and I really like them.
Just bought a 7" ICON diagonal cutting plier for home use. Doing cutting jobs is so far so good.
Feeling the build of tool is so strong.
Time will tell the differences.
Agreed. It’s weight and feel is much better than most HF tools. Enjoy.
Its not about the tool brand, its about the tool behind the tool, doesnt have to be snap on to get the job done, i can replace a tranny just as fast with pittsburgh pro as i can with snap on tools. Ive been asked for help on how to remove a door panel off a crown vic by someone who had a fully kitted out 30 grand snap on toolbox filled with mac, snap on and matco tools while all i had was a 20x26 craftsman toolbox and harbor freight tools. Just to put it into perspective.
Fair point and perspective. Find what works best for you and get after it. Thank you for commenting. Please consider liking and subscribing for more videos like these!
As long as Snap-On's patent has not been infringed, if there even was one on the Snap-On dykes. Then Harbor Freight having the Icon dykes manufactured the same or almost the same as the Snap-On's is not a problem. Snap-On's patents on most of their tools have expired. This is why so many of the available tools from many different manufacturers have the same designs and features found on Snap-On tools. You can buy almost any socket or ratchet from any brand and it will have most if not all of the once-touted features you could only get from Snap-On. Snap-On's design that still stands out is its very tight tolerance specifications. A Snap-On socket for example will fit much tighter on a bolt or nut than most of the other brands of sockets. Sometimes this is by a thousandth or two sometimes it's only by a few ten-thousandths of an inch or millimeter. Most of the time this won't matter, sometimes it may even be an advantage, and the off-brand sockets will work just as well as the Snap-On.
The Snap On design for ratchets is ubiquitous. The majority of those inexpensive ratchets in tool kits from the Far East are Snap On knock offs.
I dunno if that would make me proud or pissed. Obviously it is a good design otherwise it would not be imitated so much.
Like it or not, its very similar and surprisingly better than expected.
It's almost as if people aren't aware that the tools aren't necessity better and that they are just prepaying for on-site warranty. Many tools have lifetime warranty, but you have to bring the original receipt into the store to make the exchange, so it's potentially less convenient. Although it's not like the tool truck is sitting on the back corner of the property just waiting for your tool to break so they can instantaneously swoop in and make you feel better about breaking a tool. If you break a tool while on a job, then you will have to wait for the truck to show up.
There is no reason to bring a receipt. Harbor freight doesn't require them when doing a warranty swap
@@RealGeorgeyWashington They do not at least in California from where they were founded. I even called the corporate office and the verified that you need a receipt to have Harbor Freight honor the warranty.
@donho3617 Hm, that's odd. They've never asked me at any store I've been to in Indiana. Although I know specific states can be a pain. If you have an harbor freight account, you shouldn't need the receipt even there. The purchase should be stored electronically in their system.
Yea, no receipt needed for Icon tools. Its a great system they have going.
I'll see if they make end cutting snips. My pair is older than I am. It's either knipex or these.
Either would be a safe bet. 👍🏻
ThingsMan, I disagree. Knipex tools are simply superior. I have Cobra wrenches from both Knipex and Harbor Freight. A HUGE difference in feel and function. It's tough to beat German engineering and manufacturing.
@@keithl4094 I do have to agree with you on that one, my 16" Cobra pliers are the best. Only had one bad experience with a knipex plier, the non-cobra slide style 6" one's, slip right out of the grooves like all other manufacturers do.
@@keithl4094 I do own a pair of Bahco self adj. 10" pliers. Snap on's sister company, and the same one's they slap the Snap on label on, and charge twice as much. They are excellent, made in France, I think?
@@DavidWeinberg-cm9xd Spain
Snap on uses a special cromoly forged steel, not forged chrome vanadium. Not even close to the same quality, yet not a bad deal for the money.
As mentioned in the video and Snap On's website they are "Cold forged alloy steel". Agree, that at 1/3 of the cost, the Icons do appear to be a valid substitute.
Please don't talk out your ass (and get your spelling correct, it's chromoly). Snap-on _rarely_ uses chromium-molybdenum (which is usually used only on things like racing bicycle frames anyway). This particular tool doesn't use Cr-Mo (whether its 4140 or 4340) - it's simply 'cold forged steel alloy' without a qualifier; if I could examine it, I could guess at its SAE mettelurgy. If it was Cr-Mo or Cr-V, you can bet Snap-On would have made a big stink about it on their advertising/specs.
Don't be a slave to a brand, my friend - life is too short.
So buy 3 I mean shit.
@@r3dhorse Why? they are lifetime.
Snap on dudes are mad that now people can get what they paid a fortune for, for a quarter of the price lmao.
I got mine for $16 with a coupon. At that price it’s totally worth it
Even better. 👍🏻
If you have an account it will be in your purchase history. No receipt needed.
Taiwan makes quality stuff. They know how to forge andtemper steel well.
@@GunGuy258 yes most of their factories figured this out decades ago.
Thanks
Welcome
The ones I got have started to really rust with minimal use, same with the slip joint pliers I got.
Are yours Snap on or Icon?
From the factory most tools come with a coating of very light oil, to keep them nice and new looking while they are in the packaging, you should oil them periodically atleast a spray of wd-40, snap on or icon, sweat and the oils from your hands and humidity in the air will attack any untreated steel, i have plenty of snap on tools, chromed and raw steel that have rusted.
Awesome. Got the icons today for $14 out the door
Nice. You won’t be disappointed 👍🏻
I think you’ve answered your own question.
You show an absolutely ancient pair of SnapOn side cutters. Still in perfect working order.
Then ask if we’d prefer the counterfeit version.
I would choose your old SnapOn over the new HF version.
Yeah, SnapOn is pricy for the home mechanic. SnapOn doesn’t even want that business. They’re professional tools.
HF is great for the do it yourselfer. I have a bunch of their stuff.
But I don’t kid myself that it’s a substitute for high end tools either.
There’s a whole lot of tool brands between those two. Carslyle,Tekton,Capri for high end Taiwanese tools. KTC and Vessel from Japan. Knipex, Wiha & Wera feom Germanw and so much more!
It ain’t a choice of the most expensive or the least expensive.
Lol
I see your point. The reason for the video is to test side by side and compare overall, so you all can make the best educated decision. My Snap On's are great. No complaints. I'm also 6 months in on the Icons and they are still holding up like new. Is Icon a bad choice? Not at all, especially considering cost and ease of replacement. To each their own.
And that is what Snap On wants you to think.
@@stchman absolutely!
That’s the way SnapOn markets their tools.
And there has to be some truth to it or would fail.
People but tools to work. Not for show.
@@davehaggerty3405their tools are high quality but they built their reputation when the only alternatives were complete garbage. Things have changed since then and great quality imports are readily available from many manufacturers. Choice is good for consumers
I'm surprised there haven't been hoards of Snap On fan boys show up to tell you all the different reasons they aren't as good
Let’s hope we are all open minded. 😉
I'm sorry I am a little bit late . Those pliers are good for the do it yourself backyard guy. I would not allow those in my shop. I have fired people for using shitty inferior tools!!! Like crappy worn out sockets and wrenches that rounded bolt heads off . Totally avoidable situations that cost time and money. I guess some people just don't know any better.
@@frankgrillo8331 Yeah, no excuse in my book, ruining people's vehicles with crappy tools. One good tool is better than 10 worn out junk tools.
@@frankgrillo8331 So if it’s not Snap off then it’s just garbage for pro work huh? Well I hate to disagree but you are so close minded I can’t resist. I’ve been in the business 25 years. I own snap on, MATCO, Sunex, Williams, knipex and now some ICON/gear wrench and for sockets KOKEN Japan which is FAR better than snap on. Not even a comparison. So if you are rounding off bolts sounds like it’s operator error to me. But like your buddy here, keep sippin that koolaid and thinking there’s only one brand in the universe. Laughable
Frank didn’t say SnapOn was THE premium brand.
You did.
I shop the world for what I consider the best tools.
In addition to the brands you mention I have Engineer and Vessel from Japan and Wiha , Felo and Wera from Germany.
Lots of good choices these days.
The only reason I figure tool trucks survive is because they track the customer down and put the tool in his hand. Then finance it for them.
I see no problem with Icon for the average DIYer, but if you're a professional you're better off with Snap On, Mac, or Cornwell. They are much higher quality
There are plenty of "DIYers" who buy Snap On, just look at all these tool collectors out there in you tube land.
And plenty of professionals who have Icon Gearwrench Tekton ad nauseam...
If you can get 90 - 95% quality at 25% or less the price the math is not difficult. That phrase "DIYer" is a condescending trope.
If a homeowner wanted to buy Ridgid or Klein tools I would pat him on the back.
Thanks for commenting. 7 months in and these are performing as well as my Snap On's. I think its fair to say that these are about, or just as good with a much simpler warranty.
I think when it comes down to it, professionals can get away with using icon for pliers because they tend to last a very long time. A pair of cheap chinese slip pliers can last 20+ years.However, when it comes to cutting tools, the steel needs to be good in order to last. Therefore, i would not recommend icon for diagnol cuttters, or flush cut, scissors, or sheet metal cutters, or anything else that requires a edge to cut.
@@crashconstructionunfiltere3829When I visited Japan and shopped around in their hardware store. Many hand tools are made in Taiwan.
ICON tools manufactured in Taiwan may be worth a try.
Taiwan makes sense as their quality control is quite good but cost of goods are still quite low. That’s a win for consumers. Thanks for commenting. Please like and consider subscribing for future videos. 👍🏻
Might want to see some more reviews out there. These are well made and a bargain. They don’t feel or perform like lower quality cutters. They are solid. I appreciate your comments though. Please subscribe and stick around. 🤘🏻
@@ThingsMen 👍
They are no where near the quality of snapon ,i have afew snapon pliers that ive been using at my job for over a decade ,but for the price and if u use the coupon the icons are a good deal im gonna get some of the copys and compare them over time jsut because it would be a fun experiment
I think that is a great idea. Owning both they appear to function almost identical. They are well worth the money.
Hard to beat ICON for the DIYer
In the case of these cutters I’d be inclined to agree. 👍🏻
Or the professional
I think it's fine, they don't compete, nobody who would buy the snapons, is going to go for the icon, cause fanboys
I own a lot of snap on and now I buy varied brands. Whoever delivers the best value and quality gets my money. The Japanese and Taiwanese make damn good tools. This made in the USA means it must be great is just stupid and getting old. Snap on fan boys are the WORST! Haha
Surprisingly more and more guys are looking at the Icon line which is nice to see. No need to get stuck with one manufacturer. A good tool is a good tool regardless. That's the purpose of this channel, to find the best tools for your $. Thanks for commenting. Please consider liking and subscribing!
I stopped buying Icon pliers with that style of handle. Every single pair I’ve had has been super stiff in the joint, and that’s nonsense for a “””premium””” plier that’s supposed to be on par or even close to the Snappy version. I’m betting it’s the same deal with these diagonals, they look like it as they’re being handled in the video. I’ve spent a ton of time trying to break in multiple pairs of Icon pliers with that style of handle and they just don’t. The Doyle’s are always excellent, and the Icons with the thinner red plastic have been good, but those thick red handled ones have been way too stiff. That’s 💩 for the prices. Fingers crossed they bring out Doyle plastic cutters
I don't own any Icon pliers but I usually just spray some WD-40 and work it in whenever I've had a pair of pliers/cutters that were too stiff.
These have broken in nicely. Might give them a try if you are still considering
They say, "Imitation is the Lowest form of flattery"
I think it turned out well.
Tools are tools
I have like 10 dikes from many brands, some get use more than others, makes no difference at the end of the day
Nice tools feel nice and look nice though
Good slogan to live by.
I’ve owned several icon products thinking they would be able to perform good. And at first they seemed to be a good capable product. However I would have to say that they are not built for the professional technician they aren’t built for the regular rigorous work that snap on products are. I’m not saying that every product snap on makes is better than every other brand but I have seen and used a lot of different brands in my 25 year career and I would never buy anything except snap on products for certain tools ratcheting tools especially. Basically don’t buy a product because it is a mimic of a superior brand in the long run it’s just worth buying the brand you like and use and have trust in
Fair points. It makes sense to follow a manufacturer that makes reliable tools and provides excellent support. However there are always emerging brands and compete for that level of quality. One of the points of this channel is to find those items and brands you might not be currently considering.
Which are better at rusting? 😂😂
Here in Florida, rust sucks, never had these issues in NJ. It does not matter what brand you buy or have, it will rust just the same. I use a spray wax in a can called Tool Saver. It will protect anything of ferrous metal.
Another form of testing...interesting. ;)
Snap on fanboys will still say how their overpriced tool is better
They might, or they might take a moment and weigh their options.
Don’t like them Mickey Mouse feeling handle grip,
Thanks for commenting. I expect mixed opinions on them as well.
Icon way better then Snapon, use it, break it and take it back to harbor freight.
They are easy and quick to replace tools. That is a plus.
Icon is better.
So far it’s holding up.
Nice, but Nowhere near the Quality of Snap-ON
You might be surprised.