Weezy gave Drake the best advice, and he was too arrogant to listen. He told him "be true to yourself and don't get on no gangsta sh**, cuz that ain't you".
Hov too “Drake here’s how they gon come at you, With silly rap feuds tryna distract you” on Light Up At some point Drake felt like he knew better than them🤷🏿♂️
IYRTITL was the true Heel of Drake. This was the psuedo-mobster era that changed him for the worst. Nothing Was the Same was the last time we got 'Pure Drake'.
I agree that nwts was great but Troy is right about the inauthenticity, it always bothered me too. Songs like Worst behaviour, started from the bottom and the language aren't pure Drake, it really was the beginning of fake Drake
2015 is the transition year for Drake and Kendrick. That year made them who they are today. Drake would defeat Meek and adopt a mafioso mentality. 2015 put Drake on a high that he has never felt before. His lingo, train of thought, and image would change forever. He was the surburb guy who beat the #1 street rapper at the time. He received praised from legendary actors and rappers for his win. He had the women fan base and now he would have the streets(In his mind). Meanwhile.. Kendrick was gaining influence on a social and political level with "To pimp a butterfly".His " Alright" anthem would be the voice and battle cry of the police brutality/protest era of 2015. Both MC's were crowned. One as the Braggadocio hit maker/ battle rap. Champion... And the other as the voice of the culture. That year made them
It plagued him on the long run and by 2024 there was no way he could recover from the infection. And now we're watching his rap career die in real time.
He was threatened by GKMC. Drake was already much bigger than Kendrick, had the hits, had the Wayne cosign. But his music was regarded as rap for the ladies. Meanwhile, GKMC dropped and everyone called it an instant classic. And "real hip hop" from the subject matter pretty much being Boyz n the Hood, the skits, the rapping, the storytelling, etc. Maybe its 2024 bias, but I really think the tone/persona shift was Drake learning all the wrong lessons from GKMC and thinking trying to be more "hood" was what people liked about it
@@Mochafairiemonstermy take is he comprehends very well, but he knows his fans don’t, and that allows him to spin whatever narrative the way he wants. “Shape the stories how you want, hey Drake, they’re not slow” referenced that the world would not fall for the tactics like his fans do.
@ you’re giving him too much credit. That dude been mad at that control verse for over a decade. I don’t think he’d have underestimated K as much as he did if he were really on top of it.
Drake did everything Lil Wayne told him not to do. Act gangster, get tattoos…etc. It worked for a while but now reality has come back to bite him after K dot exposed him
Bro this is how I know we grew up on the same culture cause I felt this way as well , coming from a suburban household I understood Drake all the way up until this point. It didn't seen like an authentic change..... And then the next "joint" album with Future solidified my perspective, that Drake wanted the "Tough Guy Respect" . 6:54
broooo let me tell you .. man i had COUNTLESS arguments with niggas about Drake at that time because i noticed the change on "If you're reading this it's too late" .. i just couldn't get in to the music anymore because i originally knew Drake from Degrassi and im like .. why is he trying to rap more aggressively now? lol why is he trying to be this tough guy now?? As much as i love hip-hop, i love authenticity more! So that's when i stopped listening to Drake .. and Drake fans swear i was hating 😂
Tbh I get it tho, hear me out. When you 1. Move around a bunch or 2. Are from a melting pot of a city with a lot of culture like Toronto, you genuinely BECOME MULTIPLE PEOPLE. It’s very hard for people to relate to because most people stay in one small non city area with 2 types of people MAX their entire lives. But when you experience different lives you have different ways of living within one person. This is why I identified with Drake growing up until about 2017 when I was 16 and his music lost its consistency. But that’s why, he’s not actually copying something, he was around it just later in life and it shaped him, because he was always being shaped. The Take care Drake is nothing like Degrassi Drake which is nothing like modern Drake. and let’s skip all the pdf file stuff because that’s inexcusable ofc I’m just talking about personality
@@notreallyafamousartist695if there was any truth to that he would genuinely have become…someone. So who did he become? He became a pretender, borrowed swag, borrowed lyrics, borrowed personalities. Without which, nothing remains. There’s nothing genuine about that. He had an opportunity to be a unique personality because of his unique experience. Instead he chose to embody the experiences of others. And his art reflected the cost of that choice.
I feel like after Kendrick's Control verse overshadowed Drake's album rollout, Drake has been rather salty about it ever since. Hence the bars on NWTS The Language. "Who is this kid with the motormouth I am the one you should worry about." I feel like Drake was intimidated by the Control verse and he had been trying to act tough ever since. Don't forget that interview when he was asked about it and he was all like "Kendrick is making moments, it was a great moment in time, are you listening to it now?" And saying how Kendrick was not murdering him in any platform and a decade from now he'll revisit the topic. A decade later, well, everyone knows the rest.
Agree with each point! I’d add to it that this album (in hindsight) feels formulaic regarding the rest of his discography. He never really changes his album format from this point on
You articulated that perfectly. It’s like no matter how much I logically feel like it’s an amazing album, my heart never felt truly connected to it. I could never fully put my finger on what was off about it so thanks for this!
For a while i couldn’t pinpoint why I didn’t fw the album despite liking the music either. I had to sit and really think about it like “AM I hating on dude? Or is it something else??”😂
I agree. This is the album that Drake lost me. Drake just didn't' sound authentic at all to me in NWTS. Later finding out he didn't write everything made it make sense to me.
Views was the last album I powered through enjoyed first listen after about a week I was bored. Compare that to GNX I haven’t stopped listening I can’t, still bumping gkmc and TPAB to this day too Drake just never wowed me like other artists.
Bro you’re spot on. It was started from the bottom that had me looking at him sideways. Especially since I use to watch Degrassi lol when I would bring it up people would say the same thing to you “oh you’re a hater” lol my feelings never changed I still enjoyed his music but that feeling was always there could never explain it without being called a hater😭
Drake didn't change his relationship with the weeknd changed and that effected the kind of music drake could procure, "if you're reading this it's too late" is when Quintinn Miller joined the writing staff and drake's sound changed and the meek beef happened... Then started working with future etc..
I always felt this shift started during the If You're Reading This It's Too Late rollout/album but it's interesting to hear your points on it happening during NWTS rollout and album.
I think there's some revisionist history going on with your story. Drake was popular, yes. but after good, kidd dropped People were calling Kendrick the face of hip hop. Good kidd was an instant hip hop classic. even 3 albums in none of drakes albums had the same buzz as gkmc with hip hop fans. Not to mention Kendrick stepped all over the roll out of that album with control. Even after drake dropped, people were talking about control
Why are we talking about Drake paying homage to Ma$e lmfao obviously he didn’t “steal” a verse that already exists on an all time popular rap song like wtf?
I honestly think the “industry “ changed him I think dude honestly came in thinking everyone was his friend and found out quick that wasn’t case,plus the way he was moving and allegedly getting robbed at gunpoint earlier in his career people already thought he was the “soft” rapper and double that with the fact of him probably wanting to be accepted by his peers (black community peers) I’m not saying people treated like shit but it makes you think about shift in his music I really noticed the change myself when he did WATTBA with future I was very surprised
this is the take the people who just wanna hate him don’t wanna consider. his personality changed as his reality changed, so subsequently, so did the content. people just hate seeing one person win ALL the time cuz they can’t relate to it. it’s why michael jordan has haters.
NWTS is his 3rd album. So you better bring more confidence, a different vibe, and more to the table. The first 2 albums sounds like drake. The 3rd one sounds like him with more confidence in his evolution. So my opinion i like NWTS. The first 2 albums drake didn't fully catch my ear. But that 3rd album I heard him loud and clear!
I really like NWTS but I agree this is where the shift first started. But to me, Thank me later aged HORRIBLY. I tried going back to it based off nostalgia, I remember rolling outta my first job blasting Show me a good time 🎶 in '10 but dawg listening to that shit in '25 is diabolical 🤣 my old ass ears almost blew out. Damn shame.
I feel like it’s two sides to people who listened to Drake back then. There were people who knew about Drake since his mixtapes and the other people who found out about him when he dropped thank me later and was around young money. Now I say all that to say, most people who knew about mixtape Drake did not like this album and this is when we started falling back from him. And then there’s people like you who liked this album and wanted more.
EXACTLY ! Drake was literally the biggest he’s ever been. OF COURSE he will feel more confident and open to trying new sounds. Not because he’s “faking” “lying” or “bitter” like this man in the video is portraying. It’s really sad how people try to down Drake and label him as the “soft guy” when the accusers are deep down insecure with themselves and their life overall. THATS hate. Being so focused on another man and how he moves through out life and being ready to criticize him for the smallest things or changes. Let Drake be human man
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I have said this for years and since this album first dropped, expressed these same sentiments and got almost exactly the same responses as you. Back then I would say "That man could come out and rap "the clouds are so blue" and everyone would act like he had a supa hot fiya type reaction and said the greatest thing ever". And the people did not disappoint me! They made HIS word gospel, no longer needing credibility, didn't matter if he was stealing or flat out lying on songs b/c he in popular opinion the GOAT. I watched him taunt rappers, specifically Kendrick for YEARS so 2024 to now has felt like a long time coming and I love it! I have always loved the realness and authencity that came from hiphop back in the day and it finally feels like we are getting back to that! Real art and again, I LOVE it here! Keep going too! Reactors/commentators like yourself keep the realness alive and a real ear to music so yeah keep doing ya thang! Great piece!
Yea man alot of people believe this album was his best album including myself. This album made me a Drake fan so he had to be doing something right with it. I never heard someone complain about a rapper showing confidence or bravado.
NWTS is his best album in my opinion. As far as identity crisis he been has that problem before this album. Take Care was sugar cane puff music and Thank Me Later is all over the place. You can tell he been lost. In other words he been lost. Even on his mixtapes like comeback season. This dude been a corn in a colb hip pop allowed this guy in. Real hiphop fans seen this coming years before Thank me later. Headlines off of Take Care proved Drake was lost before NWTS.
This video just made me subscribe and I agree. You pointed out some key points that I didn't even think of but Nothing Was The Same was actually my true last Drake album listen song to song. I used to joke that "Nothing Was The Same" since he made that album but I know I was right. There was definitely a noticeable shift in his style and cadence. He was headed into a black hole 👀 🌑.
Ifyrtitl is where the content change was most apparent. You’re acting like nothing was the same didn’t still have that “soft” darke sound like, hold on we’re going home, come thru, etc. Also, change is needed for an artist to grow. Although I love old drake the best, If he didn’t change his content he would’ve stayed stagnant.
I also dont think its this deep. He made this album because he was tired of all the memes and jokes about him singing and lovey dovey music and wanted to prove he was that guy
Glad you could articulate it. This is exactly what happened to me as someone who used to listen to Drake. I remember being conflicted after this album 😂😂😂😂😂. Yes I meant to say that 😂
I had the same observations you've made!! The first Drake song I ever heard was Replacement Girl and I was hooked from then. All his mixtapes/albums were great and sounded like him. Take Care is then released and I was like who is this Drake? NWTS came out, and I was like "oh wow, he's a goner." THEN he came out with that album with Future and I was just lost for words. At that point, I couldn't listen to him the same anymore. To see where he ended up now doesn't surprise me at all.
Replacement girl was literally the first Drake song I ever heard as well ft Trey Songz, and I couldn’t help but think how back then in 07 could he get a feature like that being that I only knew him as wheelchair jimmy from degrassi but I shrugged it off
Kendrick came out with Dr. Dre and had a Jay-Z placement. We have to stop pretending he didn’t have as much if not more support than Drake. Not a fan of either btw.
I appreciate your articulation of this! I was a huge Drake fan back in the day. I actually think the last 3 cds I ever bought was Thank Me Later, Take Care, and Pink Friday. Something about his music stop hitting the same for me after Take Care. I still enjoyed some of his music but not as much. There was definitely some type of personality shift or persona change that happened then and led to where we are now. Excellent video!
This makes no sense 😂😂 Drake came in the game at 22 he’s 38 now. His music changed because HE CHANGED. He don’t feel the same way about things as he did then. Nobody come out the womb gangsta
Lmao I just put that in a min ago I never liked that song catchy yes but personally fav no but real drake fans know the authentic songs vs the crowd pleasers
@@Top5Troy look at all industry plants and their patterns. His story was too perfect. Everyone was praising him, even when they had no business doing so. I'm from Toronto and that guy has ghost writers from the beginning. You point out noticeable changes in his album stuff, that's honestly because he must lost his og ghost writer at some point. Because nothing was the same
NWTS was an ok album. I don’t think Drake really ever had a classic album. Good songs but body of work? Nah. Never really thought any of his albums were that great.
Top5Troy how did you feel about Thank me Later? I loved that album the first week when i bought it. Then it quickly got stale. For me, i attributed my failing enjoyment of that album to Drake's flow getting repetitive and predictable. He seemed to only have one flow. The only thing that kept me listening to it was the new appeal of 40's production.
Yeah I ain’t gon lie I think this video missed the mark pretty badly. Then he mentions if you’re reading this to late as an album he likes. Which came out after nwts but someone he can get into that one but not nwts…
Yeah he became this tougher image he was going for on NWTS, that is the Achilles heel of his persona now. Btw Quentin miller wasn’t around for NWTS, he came around 2015 for “if you’re reading this it’s too late.”
Kendrick & Cole both had mixtapes out before Drake but it was Kendrick's album section 80 that got the most recognition before GKMC & his feature on Control. The reason why Drake got his spot as the hottest hip hop artist was because of his affiliation with Lil Wayne.
I think NWTS is the authentic “tough guy version” of himself. Even on the outro how he mentioned how he was treated in high school and making people go through security clearance. He was literally rapping the “beat it chick” meme. For someone that everyone can acknowledge was slightly “nerdy” that’s a seemingly natural progression.
I always thought Thank Me Later was better than Nothing Was The Same as he seemed more authentic. Nothing Was The Same was essentially him putting on an act even though the delivery was pretty good.
@ Thank Me Later isn’t horrible but it’s the least well aged of his projects it’s no where near better than NWTS. Artistically, lyrically, commercial success…. Subjectively if that’s your hill to die on ok but by every objective measure yall wrong
My take verbatim. I loved RFI, CS, SFG, TML and TC but I just couldn't get into NWTS much either, nor any of his albums after that. The tone was COMPLETELY different, and like you, I couldn't fully understand why until a few years ago. Great video bro!
TochiRTA said drake's shift in his artistry during this period was influenced by A$AP Rocky. I'll be honest, I wasn't paying close attention to both of them at that time so I wouldn't know.
This is why I always liked "thank me later" and is my favourite. Once I found about he took the weeknds flows and songs plus quentin miller wrote majority of his stuff, I couldn't listen anymore. He is fraudulent I always knew it, the machine drive his career and helped him get to the top. Lil wayne just found a canadian, jewish, middle class, actor from degrassi in Richmond hill, toronto. Yeah right!!! Lil wayne was given Drake to cosign. He is manufactured and you could see it back in 2012/2013. People are just too caught up in the music and are hypnotized by it to even care about all the evidence and flaws. He is just a straight thief, insecure to the max, a guy who never get kitty and now wants to F everyones girl, a lame, arrogant and hypocritical but so are most people so i won't press that one as much. Kendrick to me is authentic since GKMC and his music is like a masterpiece film making and drakes is like a cheesy, predictable rom com with no substance and not realistic but woman eat it up anymore. Ie. 50 shades of grey (what dog shit) hahaha
Its crazy because I always said after NWTS, it truly wasnt. Thats my favorite Drake album cuz I like the bravado. Its like he was hitting his stride then when I heard IYRTITL, i was pissed because of the same reason you didn’t like NWTS. It felt fake as hell and keep in mind this is months before the Quinten Miller situation. Bro started sounding like tuff tony😂😂
Can’t say I agree with the premise at the time of this album Control just dropped and the language is a kdot diss intact a lot of that album was drake biting back harder so in context hip hop fans knew how it fit into the atmosphere of the time
Or maybe the deeper he got into the industry , if changed him 😂🤷🏾♂️ I actually started fucking with Drake at NWTS. Shit before that album was corny to me
When you realize J Prince forced and annoyed the mess outta Wayne to sign Drake. Wayne DID NOT WANT TO SIGN HIM. J Prince is responsible for the Lawbrey we see now…. No one wanted Drake in the game. J Prince FORCED him on us…. Wayne don’t even like him. When your guy says “don’t switch up or they will switch on you” lawbrey should’ve taken him seriously. This boy a Fan. A white woman, a colonizer, a buck breaker, a PAID JEW. Cuz the Jews get paid for the Holocaust but his daddy side cuz disrespected with no payment. All drakes music was FORCED ON US. By the king Jew Lucian. He’s an actor, not a rapper, not a singer he is an actor. He’s a liar.
Bro i felt the same way this girl i worked with used to beg me to listen to the album all the way thru but i couldnt get into it.. finally i did and enjoyed it but it definitely was a shift in his career
@ you hit the nail on the head. I’m 34. I found mixtape Drake before album Drake. This was the start for me of falling back from Drake and then the future collab album was it for me. I actually had found a future only version because I couldn’t stand hearing Drake rap like a gangster lol. But you’re right, most of us who liked “mixtape” Drake didn’t like this album while others who found Drake when thank me later came out or when he was running with young money, they loved it.
Please know this people don't change they only become more of who they truly are that is why he always had that feeling towards his past they will never leave
U know what I wanted to give u hell when I first saw the title but u right..I think it’s his best album personally (Take care sucked ass) but when I heard Worst Behavior I was shocked tbh but I had overlooked it cuz that Come Thru was 🥶 af!!
9:31 Honestly, I think that a lot of Drake’s (dark) thoughts are captured by the flow of others. I think that he felt what others wrote for him, especially in The Language.
Weezy gave Drake the best advice, and he was too arrogant to listen. He told him "be true to yourself and don't get on no gangsta sh**, cuz that ain't you".
keep it canadian
Hov too “Drake here’s how they gon come at you, With silly rap feuds tryna distract you” on Light Up
At some point Drake felt like he knew better than them🤷🏿♂️
@@Top5Troy The pride before the fall. Smdh
That was good advice to but wayne should follow that to cause that fake blood persona isn't wayne either lol they both need to be themselves 🤣
"Talk about your little TV show" 🤣
IYRTITL was the true Heel of Drake. This was the psuedo-mobster era that changed him for the worst. Nothing Was the Same was the last time we got 'Pure Drake'.
Facts, NWTS is Drake at his best IMO
I would say those are his 2 best projects
1000%
Facts
I agree that nwts was great but Troy is right about the inauthenticity, it always bothered me too. Songs like Worst behaviour, started from the bottom and the language aren't pure Drake, it really was the beginning of fake Drake
2015 is the transition year for Drake and Kendrick. That year made them who they are today. Drake would defeat Meek and adopt a mafioso mentality. 2015 put Drake on a high that he has never felt before. His lingo, train of thought, and image would change forever. He was the surburb guy who beat the #1 street rapper at the time. He received praised from legendary actors and rappers for his win. He had the women fan base and now he would have the streets(In his mind). Meanwhile.. Kendrick was gaining influence on a social and political level with "To pimp a butterfly".His " Alright" anthem would be the voice and battle cry of the police brutality/protest era of 2015. Both MC's were crowned. One as the Braggadocio hit maker/ battle rap. Champion... And the other as the voice of the culture. That year made them
add Future in there as the undeniable sound of what rap was to become in the next 10 years
@@Goated_SnoopDoggfacts
Basically.
Kendrick and Drake were running different races and serving different purposes.
Accurate
The Control verse came out shortly before this album. That hurt Drake to the core
exactly
It plagued him on the long run and by 2024 there was no way he could recover from the infection. And now we're watching his rap career die in real time.
Sensitive rapper
He was threatened by GKMC. Drake was already much bigger than Kendrick, had the hits, had the Wayne cosign. But his music was regarded as rap for the ladies. Meanwhile, GKMC dropped and everyone called it an instant classic. And "real hip hop" from the subject matter pretty much being Boyz n the Hood, the skits, the rapping, the storytelling, etc. Maybe its 2024 bias, but I really think the tone/persona shift was Drake learning all the wrong lessons from GKMC and thinking trying to be more "hood" was what people liked about it
2024 showed us he don’t really have good comprehension skills. Too busy doing method acting for rappers:
That's a good point
@@Mochafairiemonstermy take is he comprehends very well, but he knows his fans don’t, and that allows him to spin whatever narrative the way he wants. “Shape the stories how you want, hey Drake, they’re not slow” referenced that the world would not fall for the tactics like his fans do.
@ you’re giving him too much credit. That dude been mad at that control verse for over a decade. I don’t think he’d have underestimated K as much as he did if he were really on top of it.
@@Mochafairiemonster you can comprehend and STILL be arrogant. Trust, he comprehends very well. His “bait” proves it.
Nothing really was the same 😂
U JUST MADE THE WHOLE CONNECTION!
@@Top5Troy "Mother ahh... Mother ahh..." Ahh moment 🤣😭🙏
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well Kendrick did say
Yeah, and nothing been the same since they dropped "Control" · And tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes.
@@michellepreston9799which aged like angels 😭
Drake had industry cred but Aubrey will never have street cred.
Drake did everything Lil Wayne told him not to do. Act gangster, get tattoos…etc. It worked for a while but now reality has come back to bite him after K dot exposed him
Bro this is how I know we grew up on the same culture cause I felt this way as well , coming from a suburban household I understood Drake all the way up until this point. It didn't seen like an authentic change..... And then the next "joint" album with Future solidified my perspective, that Drake wanted the "Tough Guy Respect" . 6:54
Yep everyone was just nodding along to it.. I’m like ehhhh
@Top5Troy it's weird cause now Drake fits in to a niche category, which I hate for him as an artist, but he did make the the bed he laid in.
broooo let me tell you .. man i had COUNTLESS arguments with niggas about Drake at that time because i noticed the change on "If you're reading this it's too late" .. i just couldn't get in to the music anymore because i originally knew Drake from Degrassi and im like .. why is he trying to rap more aggressively now? lol why is he trying to be this tough guy now?? As much as i love hip-hop, i love authenticity more! So that's when i stopped listening to Drake .. and Drake fans swear i was hating 😂
@richieave55 same for me bro , and this coming from a rapper himself. I was a Drake Stan until NWTS album . And it all felt weird for me .
@@Top5Troy😂😂😂😂
Drake has struggled with his identity and it shows. Which is why he copied other street rappers flow and style because he doesn’t have his own swag.
Tbh I get it tho, hear me out. When you 1. Move around a bunch or 2. Are from a melting pot of a city with a lot of culture like Toronto, you genuinely BECOME MULTIPLE PEOPLE. It’s very hard for people to relate to because most people stay in one small non city area with 2 types of people MAX their entire lives. But when you experience different lives you have different ways of living within one person. This is why I identified with Drake growing up until about 2017 when I was 16 and his music lost its consistency. But that’s why, he’s not actually copying something, he was around it just later in life and it shaped him, because he was always being shaped. The Take care Drake is nothing like Degrassi Drake which is nothing like modern Drake.
and let’s skip all the pdf file stuff because that’s inexcusable ofc I’m just talking about personality
L
y'all keep on pouring excuses for this cornball lmao
@@notreallyafamousartist695if there was any truth to that he would genuinely have become…someone. So who did he become? He became a pretender, borrowed swag, borrowed lyrics, borrowed personalities. Without which, nothing remains. There’s nothing genuine about that. He had an opportunity to be a unique personality because of his unique experience. Instead he chose to embody the experiences of others. And his art reflected the cost of that choice.
he never had a father, i think it explains a lot of his flaws
I feel like after Kendrick's Control verse overshadowed Drake's album rollout, Drake has been rather salty about it ever since. Hence the bars on NWTS The Language. "Who is this kid with the motormouth I am the one you should worry about." I feel like Drake was intimidated by the Control verse and he had been trying to act tough ever since. Don't forget that interview when he was asked about it and he was all like "Kendrick is making moments, it was a great moment in time, are you listening to it now?" And saying how Kendrick was not murdering him in any platform and a decade from now he'll revisit the topic. A decade later, well, everyone knows the rest.
Nah yeah he was definitely salty about the Control verse😂
Good Kid and Control switched him up. That’s what it was. Remember he took a shot at Kendrick on The Language.
exactly
Facts he took a shot on Worst Behavior too. & the Sh!t remix around that time. He thought to compete he had to get the street cred
took a shot on 100 too with the game he was in compton in the video
ye this is where he started then kendrick with the bet and on on and on till now
Agree with each point! I’d add to it that this album (in hindsight) feels formulaic regarding the rest of his discography.
He never really changes his album format from this point on
definitely feels formulaic nowadays.. Plastic-y
You articulated that perfectly. It’s like no matter how much I logically feel like it’s an amazing album, my heart never felt truly connected to it. I could never fully put my finger on what was off about it so thanks for this!
For a while i couldn’t pinpoint why I didn’t fw the album despite liking the music either. I had to sit and really think about it like “AM I hating on dude? Or is it something else??”😂
This was actually a very good breakdown, also with proof and audio...I respect the work ..
Thank you for watching!
I agree. This is the album that Drake lost me. Drake just didn't' sound authentic at all to me in NWTS. Later finding out he didn't write everything made it make sense to me.
exactly 🎯
Yes especially the line about table dancers it sounded too witty for Drake he never was like that before.
But he did write NWTS
y’all so high horse to say anything it’s embarrassing 😂😂
Creating a thing piece about a guy you don’t know
@@mel-bp1kp You very analytic, as I think about it, that's kinder true
Drake’s new music just feels so bitter and narcissistic that it’s hard to listen to.
This is also when PND came into the fold and started writing everything
i think this is the album where a lot of writers started helping
Pnd? Many more than also weekend helped write most of take care
@@pistolpete3199 bro the weekend help w like 4 songs
yup i noticed on those rnb tracks, sounds like early pnd
Short answer:He became more aggressive the more famous he got and that’s how this album changed him
"And nothings been the same since the dropped 'Control' and tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes"
Damn. Here I thought it was Scorpion and the Pusha T loss, never considered Drake making a shift as early as NWTS. I gotta hear you out on this one
Scorpion was a shift too. For the opposite way
Views was the last album I powered through enjoyed first listen after about a week I was bored. Compare that to GNX I haven’t stopped listening I can’t, still bumping gkmc and TPAB to this day too Drake just never wowed me like other artists.
@Realyung4ever I understand that. I think Views is where Drake cashed out as a rapper and leaned all the way into pop music.
@@Realyung4eversame… actually this is the only Drake album that I listened to fully. Never played another 1 all the way thru
Lol you must be 18
Bro you’re spot on. It was started from the bottom that had me looking at him sideways. Especially since I use to watch Degrassi lol when I would bring it up people would say the same thing to you “oh you’re a hater” lol my feelings never changed I still enjoyed his music but that feeling was always there could never explain it without being called a hater😭
The real felt the inauthenticity! I never liked Drake music like that but early Drake felt like HIM felt authentic even if corny
I wouldn’t be surprised if in a couple of years we hear reference tracks to support your theory.
me too, i love being right 😭
I guarantee you Drake can't write at all just like R. Kelly
Drake didn't change his relationship with the weeknd changed and that effected the kind of music drake could procure, "if you're reading this it's too late" is when Quintinn Miller joined the writing staff and drake's sound changed and the meek beef happened... Then started working with future etc..
I always felt this shift started during the If You're Reading This It's Too Late rollout/album but it's interesting to hear your points on it happening during NWTS rollout and album.
This was the time when had Drake met all his heroes and they pissed on his leg. I get it.
Why wouldn’t they, he’s the softest rapper in the game
@@leos4243Cause pissibg on another person is weird and gross?
@@sippeon9047 are you autistic? No hate serious question tho
I think there's some revisionist history going on with your story. Drake was popular, yes. but after good, kidd dropped People were calling Kendrick the face of hip hop. Good kidd was an instant hip hop classic. even 3 albums in none of drakes albums had the same buzz as gkmc with hip hop fans. Not to mention Kendrick stepped all over the roll out of that album with control. Even after drake dropped, people were talking about control
GKMC is a classic album but it's no revisionist history to say that Drake was the far more popular rapper at the time
Why are we talking about Drake paying homage to Ma$e lmfao obviously he didn’t “steal” a verse that already exists on an all time popular rap song like wtf?
I honestly think the “industry “ changed him I think dude honestly came in thinking everyone was his friend and found out quick that wasn’t case,plus the way he was moving and allegedly getting robbed at gunpoint earlier in his career people already thought he was the “soft” rapper and double that with the fact of him probably wanting to be accepted by his peers (black community peers) I’m not saying people treated like shit but it makes you think about shift in his music I really noticed the change myself when he did WATTBA with future I was very surprised
this is the take the people who just wanna hate him don’t wanna consider. his personality changed as his reality changed, so subsequently, so did the content. people just hate seeing one person win ALL the time cuz they can’t relate to it. it’s why michael jordan has haters.
NWTS is his 3rd album. So you better bring more confidence, a different vibe, and more to the table. The first 2 albums sounds like drake. The 3rd one sounds like him with more confidence in his evolution. So my opinion i like NWTS. The first 2 albums drake didn't fully catch my ear. But that 3rd album I heard him loud and clear!
Bingo ✅
I really like NWTS but I agree this is where the shift first started. But to me, Thank me later aged HORRIBLY. I tried going back to it based off nostalgia, I remember rolling outta my first job blasting Show me a good time 🎶 in '10 but dawg listening to that shit in '25 is diabolical 🤣 my old ass ears almost blew out. Damn shame.
@@rasslinreads5666to me, NWTS is a classic album and his work that aged the best. And I'm not even a Drake fan.
I feel like it’s two sides to people who listened to Drake back then.
There were people who knew about Drake since his mixtapes and the other people who found out about him when he dropped thank me later and was around young money.
Now I say all that to say, most people who knew about mixtape Drake did not like this album and this is when we started falling back from him. And then there’s people like you who liked this album and wanted more.
EXACTLY ! Drake was literally the biggest he’s ever been. OF COURSE he will feel more confident and open to trying new sounds. Not because he’s “faking” “lying” or “bitter” like this man in the video is portraying. It’s really sad how people try to down Drake and label him as the “soft guy” when the accusers are deep down insecure with themselves and their life overall. THATS hate. Being so focused on another man and how he moves through out life and being ready to criticize him for the smallest things or changes. Let Drake be human man
Don't think it ruined him he was just transitioning from a boy to a man in the music industry
Nah it was “if you’re reading this it’s too late” that’s when he started trying to be a gangsta
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! I have said this for years and since this album first dropped, expressed these same sentiments and got almost exactly the same responses as you. Back then I would say "That man could come out and rap "the clouds are so blue" and everyone would act like he had a supa hot fiya type reaction and said the greatest thing ever". And the people did not disappoint me! They made HIS word gospel, no longer needing credibility, didn't matter if he was stealing or flat out lying on songs b/c he in popular opinion the GOAT. I watched him taunt rappers, specifically Kendrick for YEARS so 2024 to now has felt like a long time coming and I love it! I have always loved the realness and authencity that came from hiphop back in the day and it finally feels like we are getting back to that! Real art and again, I LOVE it here! Keep going too! Reactors/commentators like yourself keep the realness alive and a real ear to music so yeah keep doing ya thang! Great piece!
I appreciate that! I'm glad you're enjoying the realness.
Yea man alot of people believe this album was his best album including myself. This album made me a Drake fan so he had to be doing something right with it. I never heard someone complain about a rapper showing confidence or bravado.
This is a great breakdown and makes total sense. You put in to words how I been feeling bout Drake for a while, "personality switch" u was spot on.
NWTS is his best album in my opinion. As far as identity crisis he been has that problem before this album.
Take Care was sugar cane puff music and Thank Me Later is all over the place. You can tell he been lost. In other words he been lost. Even on his mixtapes like comeback season. This dude been a corn in a colb hip pop allowed this guy in. Real hiphop fans seen this coming years before Thank me later.
Headlines off of Take Care proved Drake was lost before NWTS.
That album was imo the best one hes released besides Take Care at close second. So many bangers on it. Straight downhill after it too.
yup nothing been as good and i dont like drake
That was a great video, putting the right words on this shift I also sensed back then. It's sad what has become of Drake over the years
You hit the nail on the head.
This is great content!!
Amazing video man, I havent seen anyone approach this from this angle... Real quaity video bro
Dude, you made an amazing video. I didn't know how much Drake had taken inspiration from others to make the NWTS album.
This video just made me subscribe and I agree. You pointed out some key points that I didn't even think of but Nothing Was The Same was actually my true last Drake album listen song to song. I used to joke that "Nothing Was The Same" since he made that album but I know I was right. There was definitely a noticeable shift in his style and cadence. He was headed into a black hole 👀 🌑.
Ifyrtitl is where the content change was most apparent. You’re acting like nothing was the same didn’t still have that “soft” darke sound like, hold on we’re going home, come thru, etc. Also, change is needed for an artist to grow. Although I love old drake the best, If he didn’t change his content he would’ve stayed stagnant.
I also dont think its this deep. He made this album because he was tired of all the memes and jokes about him singing and lovey dovey music and wanted to prove he was that guy
Nothing was the same is my favorite Drake album.
Mine too
You can thank Anthony Palman because he wrote most of the songs on the album
The fight in the club with Chris Brown too.
A like NWTS the most, Drake early albums was corny and soft to me, but on MWTS he improved his vocals,beat selection and songwriting formula
Dude, just shut down your internet. Click bait + stupid take. God the brain rot is hard here
Glad you could articulate it. This is exactly what happened to me as someone who used to listen to Drake. I remember being conflicted after this album 😂😂😂😂😂.
Yes I meant to say that 😂
I had the same observations you've made!! The first Drake song I ever heard was Replacement Girl and I was hooked from then. All his mixtapes/albums were great and sounded like him. Take Care is then released and I was like who is this Drake? NWTS came out, and I was like "oh wow, he's a goner." THEN he came out with that album with Future and I was just lost for words. At that point, I couldn't listen to him the same anymore. To see where he ended up now doesn't surprise me at all.
Yup he completely changed up!
How you like thank me later but not take care or NWTS?!? 😂
Replacement girl was literally the first Drake song I ever heard as well ft Trey Songz, and I couldn’t help but think how back then in 07 could he get a feature like that being that I only knew him as wheelchair jimmy from degrassi but I shrugged it off
Not a drake fan here......but this is literally his best studio album by far.....you gotta be clip farming
Good vid w/ good points. There was def a shift in his music.
Great vid new sub bro 👍🏾
Thanks for subscribing! 🙏🏾
@ np my brother keep up the great work 💯
Kendrick came out with Dr. Dre and had a Jay-Z placement. We have to stop pretending he didn’t have as much if not more support than Drake. Not a fan of either btw.
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He showed his pop side a bit on NWTS but I believe he switched in 2016 with Views. NWTS is his 2nd best album
Nice breakdown. Very well explained.
Thanks man, appreciate it.
I appreciate your articulation of this! I was a huge Drake fan back in the day. I actually think the last 3 cds I ever bought was Thank Me Later, Take Care, and Pink Friday.
Something about his music stop hitting the same for me after Take Care. I still enjoyed some of his music but not as much.
There was definitely some type of personality shift or persona change that happened then and led to where we are now.
Excellent video!
This makes no sense 😂😂 Drake came in the game at 22 he’s 38 now. His music changed because HE CHANGED. He don’t feel the same way about things as he did then. Nobody come out the womb gangsta
Now Quentin working with Drake since started from the bottom is a HOT TAKE.
Two words. OVO Hush.
His name on a few records
Great video, I'd be interested to hear why you still rate IYRTITL because one could argue he's much more vengeful on that album.
It started on his take care album with the song called, headlines.
Lmao I just put that in a min ago I never liked that song catchy yes but personally fav no but real drake fans know the authentic songs vs the crowd pleasers
Drake was an industry plant before we knew what industry plants was
When was Drake ever a industry plant? He was known before rap so your just yapping
I don’t think he’s an industry plant.
@@Top5Troy look at all industry plants and their patterns. His story was too perfect. Everyone was praising him, even when they had no business doing so. I'm from Toronto and that guy has ghost writers from the beginning. You point out noticeable changes in his album stuff, that's honestly because he must lost his og ghost writer at some point. Because nothing was the same
kendrick was going on at that time lol. don’t forget about the bet awards cypher shortly after the release of nwts
This is such an interesting yet crazy video to watch in 2025.
Really good job describing the shift.
you don't know what you're talking about that album was incredible
NWTS was an ok album. I don’t think Drake really ever had a classic album. Good songs but body of work? Nah. Never really thought any of his albums were that great.
Top5Troy how did you feel about Thank me Later? I loved that album the first week when i bought it. Then it quickly got stale. For me, i attributed my failing enjoyment of that album to Drake's flow getting repetitive and predictable. He seemed to only have one flow. The only thing that kept me listening to it was the new appeal of 40's production.
Yeah I ain’t gon lie I think this video missed the mark pretty badly. Then he mentions if you’re reading this to late as an album he likes. Which came out after nwts but someone he can get into that one but not nwts…
You’re allowed to disagree no biggie🤝
Yeah he became this tougher image he was going for on NWTS, that is the Achilles heel of his persona now. Btw Quentin miller wasn’t around for NWTS, he came around 2015 for “if you’re reading this it’s too late.”
He realized “Backpack” Drake wasn’t going to get him paid.
So he decided to be fake and look what that's done in persuit of getting paid more money
@ Exactly. 💯
Kendrick & Cole both had mixtapes out before Drake but it was Kendrick's album section 80 that got the most recognition before GKMC & his feature on Control. The reason why Drake got his spot as the hottest hip hop artist was because of his affiliation with Lil Wayne.
This is a great vid bro
I think NWTS is the authentic “tough guy version” of himself. Even on the outro how he mentioned how he was treated in high school and making people go through security clearance. He was literally rapping the “beat it chick” meme. For someone that everyone can acknowledge was slightly “nerdy” that’s a seemingly natural progression.
I always thought Thank Me Later was better than Nothing Was The Same as he seemed more authentic. Nothing Was The Same was essentially him putting on an act even though the delivery was pretty good.
100% agree
Hell nah yall in the comments gassin this bullshit
@@b.aonthebeat1507 Really? Care to explain how it’s BS?
@ Thank Me Later isn’t horrible but it’s the least well aged of his projects it’s no where near better than NWTS. Artistically, lyrically, commercial success…. Subjectively if that’s your hill to die on ok but by every objective measure yall wrong
My take verbatim. I loved RFI, CS, SFG, TML and TC but I just couldn't get into NWTS much either, nor any of his albums after that. The tone was COMPLETELY different, and like you, I couldn't fully understand why until a few years ago. Great video bro!
Thank you for watching!
I never believed Drake since the beginning of his career
He was kind of believable on his first two albums. But this version of Drake is long gone.
TochiRTA said drake's shift in his artistry during this period was influenced by A$AP Rocky. I'll be honest, I wasn't paying close attention to both of them at that time so I wouldn't know.
I don’t think that’s it
This is why I always liked "thank me later" and is my favourite. Once I found about he took the weeknds flows and songs plus quentin miller wrote majority of his stuff, I couldn't listen anymore. He is fraudulent I always knew it, the machine drive his career and helped him get to the top. Lil wayne just found a canadian, jewish, middle class, actor from degrassi in Richmond hill, toronto. Yeah right!!! Lil wayne was given Drake to cosign. He is manufactured and you could see it back in 2012/2013. People are just too caught up in the music and are hypnotized by it to even care about all the evidence and flaws. He is just a straight thief, insecure to the max, a guy who never get kitty and now wants to F everyones girl, a lame, arrogant and hypocritical but so are most people so i won't press that one as much. Kendrick to me is authentic since GKMC and his music is like a masterpiece film making and drakes is like a cheesy, predictable rom com with no substance and not realistic but woman eat it up anymore. Ie. 50 shades of grey (what dog shit) hahaha
Its crazy because I always said after NWTS, it truly wasnt. Thats my favorite Drake album cuz I like the bravado. Its like he was hitting his stride then when I heard IYRTITL, i was pissed because of the same reason you didn’t like NWTS. It felt fake as hell and keep in mind this is months before the Quinten Miller situation. Bro started sounding like tuff tony😂😂
Can’t say I agree with the premise at the time of this album Control just dropped and the language is a kdot diss intact a lot of that album was drake biting back harder so in context hip hop fans knew how it fit into the atmosphere of the time
This was an excellent breakdown video and I have to agree with everything. Good job, bro.
But if your reading this it’s too late is authentic?
Or maybe the deeper he got into the industry , if changed him 😂🤷🏾♂️ I actually started fucking with Drake at NWTS. Shit before that album was corny to me
When you realize J Prince forced and annoyed the mess outta Wayne to sign Drake. Wayne DID NOT WANT TO SIGN HIM. J Prince is responsible for the Lawbrey we see now…. No one wanted Drake in the game. J Prince FORCED him on us…. Wayne don’t even like him. When your guy says “don’t switch up or they will switch on you” lawbrey should’ve taken him seriously. This boy a Fan. A white woman, a colonizer, a buck breaker, a PAID JEW. Cuz the Jews get paid for the Holocaust but his daddy side cuz disrespected with no payment. All drakes music was FORCED ON US. By the king Jew Lucian. He’s an actor, not a rapper, not a singer he is an actor. He’s a liar.
Bro i felt the same way this girl i worked with used to beg me to listen to the album all the way thru but i couldnt get into it.. finally i did and enjoyed it but it definitely was a shift in his career
Didn’t this come out around the Control verse?
Control dropped first
@ you hit the nail on the head. I’m 34. I found mixtape Drake before album Drake. This was the start for me of falling back from Drake and then the future collab album was it for me. I actually had found a future only version because I couldn’t stand hearing Drake rap like a gangster lol.
But you’re right, most of us who liked “mixtape” Drake didn’t like this album while others who found Drake when thank me later came out or when he was running with young money, they loved it.
You aren’t the first person to say they loved Drake and despised the WAATBA collab album. Interesting but I get it
This is a great breakdown. Seems spot on.
Had new ghostwriters... simple lol
Please know this people don't change they only become more of who they truly are that is why he always had that feeling towards his past they will never leave
Worst Behavior video is crazy lol cringe now and cringe then lol
Definitely off the mark. But I respect the opinion and the effort you put towards explaining it.
Thank you for watching 🤝
Good video
This is my favorite Drake album. It was his best album in my opinion...
Ay bro I came on here to let you know that the Canadian dollar is worth less the US dollar. 👍🏽
This is so revisionist it’s not even funny u had me in the first couple minutes but nah
I disagree..”IYRTITL” was peak Drake..his decline began after this project
U know what I wanted to give u hell when I first saw the title but u right..I think it’s his best album personally (Take care sucked ass) but when I heard Worst Behavior I was shocked tbh but I had overlooked it cuz that Come Thru was 🥶 af!!
9:31 Honestly, I think that a lot of Drake’s (dark) thoughts are captured by the flow of others. I think that he felt what others wrote for him, especially in The Language.