The legion Go is still pulling more than 15 watts in the locked TDP settings, you can even see it at 6:45, the GPU is already pulling 10 watts while the CPU is pulling 15 watts
Keep in mind NTSYNC will be added in kernel 6.14, can't wait to see what this will actually do to Linux gaming performance. Hoping it isn't another overhyped rather useless implementation. Whatever it will be, it's still very nice to see how far Linux gaming has come thanks to Valve!
You can't use frame gen when testing. It's not a fair comparison. Frame gen makes the game feel very different, and changes game to game, so it's really muddying the waters for us when testing with frame gen.
If you're going to make a video like this, you should at least be using SteamFork, not Bazzite. Bazzite is not SteamOS, SteamOS is much lighter than Bazzite and based on Arch instead of Fedora. They are comparable, but it's disingenuous to say Bazzite is the same as SteamOS.
(5:31) It’s no joke when they mean TDP doesn’t exactly translate over. Steam Deck’s CPU | GPU aren’t even hitting a combined 15w, meanwhile the Legion Go s is already maxed that TDP on the CPU side alone 🤯
6:00 If people are confused about how to read this, Just look at the Wattage and the FPS. It will give you a better perspective. on where the improvement is and what the drawbacks are. It's feels like a Steam deck refresh with the performance like this. But yeah it's reflect the price aswell. so it's pretty ok to buy if you didn't had the steam deck yet. but for "Upgrade" from the Steam deck, I don't think it's worthed. I think I get it why Valve still cooking for Steam deck 2.
@@fresco_dinero5155 i just hope it's not about "Bigger is better" viasco. Ie most company like boasting their 4K oled BS, while their chip is like average at best. xd
Hey, I'm a big fan of your work. Thanks for updating the "clickbait" title based on your community feedback. You are missing the t in "steam" May you do a video on the Zotac Zone with bazzite installed. It's the only pc handheld with the ps layout that I'm considering.
To the people complaining that this isn't SteamOS: The SteamOS official image doesn't support TDP controls on the Go S yet. Bazzite does, so there's a good reason to use Bazzite instead of SteamOS while waiting for Valve to update it.
The offical image of steamos for this devices is not out yet either so you have 0 idea what it really can do. Tittle says STEAMOS not BAZZITE. thats why people complain
@@xarishark Is English not your first language? You just repeated what I said...the official SteamOS image hasn't been updated for the Legion Go S so TDP controls don't work yet. The official image still supports just the Steam Deck. The only way to fairly test the Go S against the Steam Deck is to limit both to 15W which is only possible on Bazzite which has working TDP controls for the Go S.
I think I have decided to buy the msi claw 8 ai+ due to its big screen and 80 watt hour battery that competes with the rog ally x, my only worry is the rog ally screen is to small.
@@Donsiie Man, this UA-camr is amazing. He doesn't have to use weird titles for his videos. Although this potentially gets more views, it actually has a negative effect on long-time followers.
I'm liked PC handhelds or any other gaming portables that have 8 inch display, it's so satisfying. 7 or 7+ inch display feel small, not enough satisfying for me
Valve is definitely gonna use a highly efficient Z2 extreme in the future. No way it will use RDNA 4.0. Valve want the perfect baseline handheld and give the opportunity to the clients to use the latest z3 extreme and steam os in the future.
Why would you even pay that much lol it’s a 6800u with half the cores missing. It’s 2025 we are on the 9000 series now even though it’s not called that now
Yeah it’ll be much better and more versatile than the steam deck. Steam deck was a good starting place to look at for the PC manufacturers like Lenovo, ASUS, MSI, etc. But now those companies, especially ASUS, will work on making amazing hardware that will have native support for Steam os and windows.
Bazzite is fine, but wake me up when the Legion Go with the official Steam OS arrives. Also, no shit that it's faster than the Steam Deck. I miss old ETA Prime.
@monki_sudo At $729, this device struggles to compete, with options offering the superior Z1 Extreme chip at the same price. The 32GB RAM feels wasted, further weakening its value. Meanwhile, the $500 Legion Go S Steam Edition delivers better performance than the Steam Deck, although minimal, making it the smarter choice for Linux users. For a Windows-based handheld, this just isn’t worth the price.
BazziteOS is slower than ChimeraOS or SteamFork FYI. Try SteamOS, SteamFork or ChimeraOS. Not Bazzite. CachyOS is also faster. In short use Arch based distro man.
Everyone crying about the device not being worth it. Then don't buy it. I got this with Windows on it and IV got everything i need to run bazzite on it. I'm happy to see the performance is better. I'm going to assume it's because windows isn't on there taking up all the vram etc and optimisation is better here.
I am very confused about the powerdraw. either the cpu powerdraw on the LGS is the combined powerdraw or the limits are just for the cpu, since the combined power seems to be around 10 W higher. which would be really bad, that would mean that the LGS wouldn't hit the same performance as the SD at the same powerdraw. At 55Wh 35W means that you would get a little more than an hour since the screen and other components also need power. and 25W gives you maybe 2h if you are lucky.
I think what I’ll do is wait for steam os to drop for legion go and download it, wipe windows and go steam os only essentially turning it into steam deck. Then legion go 2 for windows
These handhelds should all be shipping with Linux by default until Microsoft releases an OS catered to these mobile PCs so that users won't have to navigate through their clunky UI.
... Idk, seeing how you need to use frame gen anyways, just tells me that it's not good enough on it's own, at this point I keep my Steam Deck. Ofcourse, it's not offical SteamOS so it might work much better when it realises with one, we will need to wait and see
im curious how is helldivers 2 on the bazzite os considering getting a handheld pc gaming which as a controller player is perfect or should i wait for the new set of igpu Ryzen ai mobile processors to release ik you've had a blast with them eta prime I'm willing to put the extra money if need be performance wise i love your vids great insight
Seeing the comments about bazzite is not steam os , is the gnu/linux debate all over again 🗿🗿🗿 (Linux users loves semantics for some reason Even when they are irrelevant at least in this case XD)
Why anyone would buy this legion go over the original rog ally or the original legion go etc is beyond me. They both are literally cheaper than this (I believe this is $750). For something with this out of date apu is ridiculous. I genuinely don’t know why this exists.
Put bazzite on the tittle and stop with the straight up lies pls. You put out good work dont sully it with fake titles. clickbait another way. you know very well what people want to see is the real steamos that this portable is going to get by valve. what are you gonna put then in the tittle? steamos on the legion go S again???
Please don't use Steam OS in the title when it's not Steam os but Bazzite, I know they're basically the same thing but it's not steam is yet, so it could mislead people to think it already released directly from valve
People? Windows users 🤣 I knew it was Bazzite before I started watching the video. SteamOS beta should be released in March for other handhelds if Valve actually manages to do so.
I mean it should be the steam deck is a dinasour ... Question is why this over the Rog ally X it's slower, has less battery life and 16x10 screens are trash
My problem with SteamOS or Bazzite, or "gaming" on linux in general is the duplication of the proton elements when running a high number of smaller, indie-like games. I run a lot of smaller games, many of them under 200mb in size, but for each of those, I am need 1gb of proton files for each game. That is just a very inefficient use of drive space. After I install all of the games I like to play, proton take up 10x more space then the games themselves. Everyone likes to run SteamOS and Bazzite for high performance, but for those of us who dont run AAA games, gaming on linux is a messy environment at times.
Yeah it better be faster than the steam deck lol💀
Lol when I read the title I was like, almost everything that came later should be technically faster than steam deck
🤣 Practically all handheld PC's are faster than the Steam Deck 😂
@@Saif0412 Yet all of their controllers are worse
@@KriliumNot really
@@Krilium Idk if I'd agree with that
WASNT TOO IMPRESSED BEFORE with Windows 11 but now i saw this and positive im getting the SteamOS version
Bazzaite OS is not Steam OS, video name fooled me :(
Splitting hairs…
@@picardsfish18
Not really. It's just an outright lie.
clickbait only
It's better.
@@picardsfish18 No, that's not what that is
The legion Go is still pulling more than 15 watts in the locked TDP settings, you can even see it at 6:45, the GPU is already pulling 10 watts while the CPU is pulling 15 watts
I think something is odd with the CPU power reporting, it is not changing at all and that is not common
On the spiderman test you an see how it fluctuates (+-1 W) but on cp2077 it's just static
@@pacoa-kdbg9303 yeah it might be a gamescope related bug
CPU Power reporting is not the same as the Steam deck
People complaining about this not being Steam OS instead Bazzite really don't know anything about Linux :D
Little do they know, it's the same exact thing. Bazzite is steam OS just with 1 week delay in updates
@@fresco_dinero5155 And SteamOS is months/year behind in desktop mode. And the way they do immutability is so bad.
I know Linux. But I wanna make sure the Bazzite crew get recognized for their great effort. This guy has been using "SteamOS" for clickbait for years
Keep in mind NTSYNC will be added in kernel 6.14, can't wait to see what this will actually do to Linux gaming performance.
Hoping it isn't another overhyped rather useless implementation.
Whatever it will be, it's still very nice to see how far Linux gaming has come thanks to Valve!
This is the video I’ve been waiting for, Bazzite on the Go S
The only reason I'm sticking to Windows on my Legion Go is it's just easier to mod games, and use afmf2 or lossless. I do love the Bazzite Steam OS.
Imagine a Z2 extreme running steamos...
I even wonder if any brand would put a 395+ in a handheld and limit the wattage. Must be interesting to see.
I'm sure there's gonna be something very soon..minipc miniconsole size with steamos. custom soc on the best out though
Ayaneo launched the 3rd variant with 395+.
@@drdre4480 Ayaneo 3 is with the HX370, not the 395+
@ not a portable device coming up. It'll have a custom soc zen 5 rdna 3.5-4
At least I haven't seen the concept be portable beyond it's tiny.
@schikey2076 might be for others but I use my Ally plugged in all the time anyway.
I’m waiting on the Lego s official steam os version.
12:36 the price is crazy though
So it's approximately 10% faster, than Steam Deck OLED.
The bazzite crew does an amazing job, so in the end everyone calls him Steam Os...
I’d be interested to know the fan noise for this vs Steam deck and original Legion Go.
You can't use frame gen when testing. It's not a fair comparison. Frame gen makes the game feel very different, and changes game to game, so it's really muddying the waters for us when testing with frame gen.
this is not a scientific channel lol
If you're going to make a video like this, you should at least be using SteamFork, not Bazzite. Bazzite is not SteamOS, SteamOS is much lighter than Bazzite and based on Arch instead of Fedora. They are comparable, but it's disingenuous to say Bazzite is the same as SteamOS.
Would be nice to see some benchmarks/gameplay using the Legion Go Dock.
(5:31) It’s no joke when they mean TDP doesn’t exactly translate over.
Steam Deck’s CPU | GPU aren’t even hitting a combined 15w,
meanwhile the Legion Go s is already maxed that TDP on the CPU side alone 🤯
That's one slick deck you got there.
wait....
Can you show us footage of the tiny trackpad being used in desktop mode while in bazzite?
6:00 If people are confused about how to read this, Just look at the Wattage and the FPS. It will give you a better perspective. on where the improvement is and what the drawbacks are.
It's feels like a Steam deck refresh with the performance like this. But yeah it's reflect the price aswell. so it's pretty ok to buy if you didn't had the steam deck yet.
but for "Upgrade" from the Steam deck, I don't think it's worthed. I think I get it why Valve still cooking for Steam deck 2.
Every company yis cooking their second iteration. ASUS and Lenovo still hasn't released their second handheld that will have Z2 extreme chips
@@fresco_dinero5155 i just hope it's not about "Bigger is better" viasco. Ie most company like boasting their 4K oled BS, while their chip is like average at best. xd
It costs too much money and has no performance, until you can play all games at high settings and 70 fps, we have nothing to talk about.
Hey, I'm a big fan of your work. Thanks for updating the "clickbait" title based on your community feedback. You are missing the t in "steam"
May you do a video on the Zotac Zone with bazzite installed. It's the only pc handheld with the ps layout that I'm considering.
To the people complaining that this isn't SteamOS: The SteamOS official image doesn't support TDP controls on the Go S yet. Bazzite does, so there's a good reason to use Bazzite instead of SteamOS while waiting for Valve to update it.
The offical image of steamos for this devices is not out yet either so you have 0 idea what it really can do. Tittle says STEAMOS not BAZZITE. thats why people complain
@@xarishark Is English not your first language? You just repeated what I said...the official SteamOS image hasn't been updated for the Legion Go S so TDP controls don't work yet. The official image still supports just the Steam Deck. The only way to fairly test the Go S against the Steam Deck is to limit both to 15W which is only possible on Bazzite which has working TDP controls for the Go S.
I think I have decided to buy the msi claw 8 ai+ due to its big screen and 80 watt hour battery that competes with the rog ally x, my only worry is the rog ally screen is to small.
Same here
Same if it’s available for preorder because I’ve check Best Buy and some other stores and all they say is coming soon
Good videos! I appreciate your work.
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Another click bait. This is not the steamdeck OS
SteamDeck OS is based on Linux so does Bazzite OS, plus bazzite OS is superrior when compared to base SteamDeck OS for peasants
No shit it is not a steam deck
@ One legit question: would you remove SteamOS from your Steam Deck to add Bazzite (given that it is superior)?
JW how is it superior. SteamOS is based on arch and has officiall support from arch devs as well as valve @@8bitchiptune420
@@Donsiie Man, this UA-camr is amazing. He doesn't have to use weird titles for his videos. Although this potentially gets more views, it actually has a negative effect on long-time followers.
I'm liked PC handhelds or any other gaming portables that have 8 inch display, it's so satisfying. 7 or 7+ inch display feel small, not enough satisfying for me
Valve is definitely gonna use a highly efficient Z2 extreme in the future. No way it will use RDNA 4.0. Valve want the perfect baseline handheld and give the opportunity to the clients to use the latest z3 extreme and steam os in the future.
I will pay 450 dollars for this handheld and not a penny more, ill let you all know when i have it
just wait for steam version
@@cocozimme why not just get the go? For the better performance.
Why would you even pay that much lol it’s a 6800u with half the cores missing. It’s 2025 we are on the 9000 series now even though it’s not called that now
@@WuFluChanwhy do people pay that much or more for a steam deck then??
Cant belive SteamDeck is soo much cheaper, a its capable clearly it shows here
No steam os
clickbait
Why would you want SteamOS? Older Kernel, older KDE plasma.
I am really excited for the legion go s coming out in may for $500 do you think that will hold up against the steam deck?
Yeah it’ll be much better and more versatile than the steam deck. Steam deck was a good starting place to look at for the PC manufacturers like Lenovo, ASUS, MSI, etc. But now those companies, especially ASUS, will work on making amazing hardware that will have native support for Steam os and windows.
Bazzite is fine, but wake me up when the Legion Go with the official Steam OS arrives. Also, no shit that it's faster than the Steam Deck. I miss old ETA Prime.
for the price of the windows legion go s it should have had the extreme chipset.
Let’s just wait for Steam version lol…
I mean to be fair, the Steam OS version is going to have 16gb RAM vs. this models 32gb so I mean, small difference there.
Do we know then the steam version comes out and the price of that?
It will come out in may, starting at $499 for the 16GB version
Now can you make a comparison between Bazzite and Steamos on Steamdeck pls, that would help to figure out
But not as fast as Z1e devices!
Depends on the weight.
I mean, at this point, anything is faster than the deck.
Steam Go s will probably be the one that sells more over the windows Go S
I don't think so. We can hope.
@monki_sudo At $729, this device struggles to compete, with options offering the superior Z1 Extreme chip at the same price. The 32GB RAM feels wasted, further weakening its value. Meanwhile, the $500 Legion Go S Steam Edition delivers better performance than the Steam Deck, although minimal, making it the smarter choice for Linux users. For a Windows-based handheld, this just isn’t worth the price.
@@QuasiBRLN Here we have these prices for the Windows versions.
Legion Go S 1TB/32GB : $662 + VAT.
Legion Go S 512GB/16GB : $521 + VAT.
im going to wait for the steamos one with the z2 extreme
BazziteOS is slower than ChimeraOS or SteamFork FYI.
Try SteamOS, SteamFork or ChimeraOS. Not Bazzite. CachyOS is also faster. In short use Arch based distro man.
Way more expensive and minimal faster then a several years old device but of course this channel finds a way to babble it good.
@@igniatesch9664 the steam os version will be 499$
Everyone crying about the device not being worth it. Then don't buy it. I got this with Windows on it and IV got everything i need to run bazzite on it. I'm happy to see the performance is better. I'm going to assume it's because windows isn't on there taking up all the vram etc and optimisation is better here.
If you buy it with Windows on it so you can install Bazzite it's a big W for Windows. I'm waiting for the SteamOS version.
I wonder if it is possible to install the beta ISO version of actual SteamOS issued by Valve? I’m sure it’ll work, I think.
I want to see final fantasy 7 rebirth on this
I am very confused about the powerdraw. either the cpu powerdraw on the LGS is the combined powerdraw or the limits are just for the cpu, since the combined power seems to be around 10 W higher. which would be really bad, that would mean that the LGS wouldn't hit the same performance as the SD at the same powerdraw. At 55Wh 35W means that you would get a little more than an hour since the screen and other components also need power. and 25W gives you maybe 2h if you are lucky.
Whether this one is powerful than steamdeck?
Hows the battery performance in steam OS
I just wish the non-SDs would put more into the materials of their devices. Every PC handheld outside of the Deck looks cheap.
When steamdeck 2 will be released?
Everything is faster than the deck
I sent back my rog ally x and picked up a steam deck, I prefer steam os and that oled screen
I think what I’ll do is wait for steam os to drop for legion go and download it, wipe windows and go steam os only essentially turning it into steam deck. Then legion go 2 for windows
These handhelds should all be shipping with Linux by default until Microsoft releases an OS catered to these mobile PCs so that users won't have to navigate through their clunky UI.
You should get two legion go s and compare windows vs bazzite
Again bait. Im nearly unsubbing u
in the bios of the LEGO S how much VRAM can be setted? max 8GB or more? Because with 32gb there is plenty of ram !
... Idk, seeing how you need to use frame gen anyways, just tells me that it's not good enough on it's own, at this point I keep my Steam Deck. Ofcourse, it's not offical SteamOS so it might work much better when it realises with one, we will need to wait and see
im curious how is helldivers 2 on the bazzite os considering getting a handheld pc gaming which as a controller player is perfect or should i wait for the new set of igpu Ryzen ai mobile processors to release ik you've had a blast with them eta prime I'm willing to put the extra money if need be performance wise
i love your vids great insight
isnt the hardware between the upcoming models different from the Steam and the Windows version?
@@TheCaliMack the only difference I’ve seen is the Steam version starts at 16gb ram and Windows starts at 32gb ram.
@ I can choose between three models; 16GB/512GB 16GB/1TB and 32GB/1TB with Windows. $522 + VAT/Sales Tax for the 16GB/512GB model.
Can you compare them on 3w tdp and 5w tdp and check what is the total battery drain? I wonder whether steam deck oled is still king on those tdps xD
Seeing the comments about bazzite is not steam os , is the gnu/linux debate all over again 🗿🗿🗿
(Linux users loves semantics for some reason Even when they are irrelevant at least in this case XD)
It can't be Linux users who complain, it must be Windows users. If it's Linux users I hope Microsoft releases XboxOS ASAP so they can go back to M$.
I'm happy with my portal lol
Why anyone would buy this legion go over the original rog ally or the original legion go etc is beyond me. They both are literally cheaper than this (I believe this is $750). For something with this out of date apu is ridiculous. I genuinely don’t know why this exists.
Why do you keep using frame gen at such low base framerates for all your benchmarks. That is a terrible experience.
Bazzite OS is not Steam OS. Don't say things in the title that aren't true.
Are you a Windows user?
What isnbetter option to buy. Legion go or legion go s ? Mainlynim looking for cod warzone. Thanks for answer
A PC.
Let me guess, you had a pretty good time with it?
Hopefully native steam os has better performance than bazzite
dual boot??
Steam Os Now We R Talking
try to install steamos on it using the steam recovery image :D
I think only the Z1E version of the Legion Go S (SteamOS) will be worth its price.
you lied to me,this is not steam os
I wish it had the z1 extreme i would buy it. 4 core cpu is a no go for me
Great video alright 🙂
All this shows is that Windows sucks but we already knew that.
why 1200p when with this chip your gonna have to use 800p?
That’s like $100 per each extra fps😂
Put bazzite on the tittle and stop with the straight up lies pls. You put out good work dont sully it with fake titles. clickbait another way. you know very well what people want to see is the real steamos that this portable is going to get by valve. what are you gonna put then in the tittle? steamos on the legion go S again???
Faster,Thinner,Better Screen!!!!
6:00 so…the steam deck is better that’s actually terrible
Anything is faster then the steam deck...
"then"?
What? you hooked on phonics?
Please don't use Steam OS in the title when it's not Steam os but Bazzite, I know they're basically the same thing but it's not steam is yet, so it could mislead people to think it already released directly from valve
People? Windows users 🤣
I knew it was Bazzite before I started watching the video. SteamOS beta should be released in March for other handhelds if Valve actually manages to do so.
Just rename the video "SteamOS on the lenovo legion go S" no need for the extra that just states the obvious...
Must be some new optimization to bazzite os because it's never beaten windows on the same hardware usually they are neck and neck or windows wins ..
I mean it should be the steam deck is a dinasour ... Question is why this over the Rog ally X it's slower, has less battery life and 16x10 screens are trash
isn't it because it has a better processor?
Compare it with msi claw 8
Legion GO S is underpowered and frankly will be DOA. neither performance nor price is appealing
Yeah if not fastest definitely questionable
My problem with SteamOS or Bazzite, or "gaming" on linux in general is the duplication of the proton elements when running a high number of smaller, indie-like games. I run a lot of smaller games, many of them under 200mb in size, but for each of those, I am need 1gb of proton files for each game. That is just a very inefficient use of drive space. After I install all of the games I like to play, proton take up 10x more space then the games themselves.
Everyone likes to run SteamOS and Bazzite for high performance, but for those of us who dont run AAA games, gaming on linux is a messy environment at times.
You download the Proton version once. Are you thinking about Wineprefix folders?
What about rog ally x
The Legion Go S is 💩 Worse performance than the Z1 Extreme and the price for the Windows version isn't worth it. Wait for the Legion Go 2.
A Z1 Extreme model is launching in May.
Its not steam os its fedora based, so no
It’s a joke. Why make a new chip but have it be far weaker and older tech than the one that came before……. It’s far weaker than the Z1 extreme.
To be priced competitively with the Steam Deck.
…wasn’t that apparent? 😅