@@kingsolomon673 The joke refers to in III right after the initial Spino attack and the group is wandering around and the Kirbys are arguing and Paul Kirby (William H. Macy's character) butchers a dino's name by saying Tricycloplots.
If the script says he was “gargling” then my best guess would be that he died from an internal pulmonary injury. Maybe during the fall he broke a rib that then punctured his lung
@@Frankly_Amazing2000 the majority of be force would have been on the adult. He had all of the parachute attached to him. Think of it as a hanging noose, with someone hanging onto a cowboy's boots. All of the force would have been on the cowboy, with minimal shock impact on the other person.
As a kid I always assumed he got caught in the tree through his parachute and starved to death. Kinda fucked up thinking that the kid didn't help him for the days he was probably up there.
"Why is his corpse stepped of flesh" He's hanging, totally exposed, in a boiling jungle island. In a _tree_ It's teeming with bugs, birds, compies...there's millions of scavengers to pick it clean. "Where'd his legs go" Decomposing bodies don't hold together very well. And again there's all sorts of animals picking at him. Which leads to the last question: "How'd his dead body climb up a tree" Here's how it goes: dead body sitting there for anything to eat. A carnivore or scavenger finds it, tries to pull it down, but it can't because the parachute ropes are too tightly tangled, so it rips the body in half and leaves with its prize. A small (relatively), arborial scavenger shows up, drags the rest of the carcass further up into the tree so that it can eat in safety, just like modern cheetahs. (Also, in the book, there are arborial dinosaurs). Final result: the carcass is left in the tree, where only small animals and insects can get at it, unable to break the bones.
Internal bleeding is often worse than bleeding you can see. When you're bleeding you can see where the wound is and can stop the loss of blood. Internal bleeding needs more complex diagnostic analysis to treat and it has the risk of septic shock.
Yet, the idea of blood being more dangerous INSIDE of you is still a bit funny to me. I remember asking my mom about that at age 10 or so like "isn't that where blood belongs? How can I tell if it's still all right and not killing me?" Yeah, I wasn't exactly Dougie Houser, ok? Our bodies should really evolve a way to reabsorb internally leaked blood...is that a thing?
@@gardevoir7137 The rate of our evolution has slowed down so much due to hospitals and medicine that a couple of hundred of years won't do anything in terms of our evolution. I'd give it a couple of thousands of years if not hundreds of thousands...
@@YeeSoest we do actually have a minor version of that 'ability'. A bruise is a pool of blood in the tissue caused by trauma that's re-absorbed into the body and disposed of by the immune system over a number of days. Those blood cells however, can not be re-used by the body again. That's probably what your thinking of. Given that life on earth has had hundreds of millions of years to evolve and not one single species has the ability to 're-absorb internal bleeding to be re-used by the body', it would be safe to assume we wouldn't develop such a thing any time soon. If anything, medical science will develop so much to the point where things like bleeding out/internally would be an irrelevant issue.
It actually makes sense how he's decayed so much. Temperature, humidity, and exposure to Wildlife play a huge part in decomp. If someone dies in the jungle they can become a skeleton in just a few days. Considering the bugs, it's surprising he wasn't more picked clean...
I don't remember how many days passed on the film, but even a full month on the sun doesn't make a corpse like that... (I work with this kind of stuff)
@@JustKelso1993 well, 8 weeks depending on insects... But then the most unrealistic thing is the kid surviving 8 weeks alone with men eating dinosaurs... lol
Not enough credit is given to this guy as a step father. The dude really cared for the kid even if he stupidly took him close to a dino island. He tried to get to know his stepson more and took on international vacations. Most step parents get bad rep but this guy was golden.
Credits to a person who took a kid to a...dino island? This person could have been einstein and we would have still called him the dumbest one to exist.
@ironfist Yes, riding next to alpha predators is 100% safer than sticking far from the land with creatures from which only one from all of them can swim good enough to get to the boat
@Darvenne J probbably, although he was very far from the island. We do not know what attacked the boat, but there was just one and only dinosaur that could come close to it.
Ben's death in JP3 was one big head-scratcher for me. I knew he couldn't have been killed by a Rex or the Spino since his skeleton was still there entangled in the parasail's cords. I too believed he was injured in the landing so he couldn't get away. As to how he died, I assumed the raptors, since they landed pretty close to the nests, came across him, attacked and killed him. Then scavengers (bugs and other carrion species) and natural decay led to his body being the condition it was in. However, what if it was another species that wasn't on InGen's list like the archaeopteryx?
@Ace B i had a very complicated discussion about it with my friend while watching it( my friend was watching JP III first time). We assumed raptors as well bexause spino and rex would eat it in one bite, compies were too small to climb and pteranodons were still closed in the aviary, although some pterosauruses were seen being free in lost world, human stuck in a tree branches wouldn't be their best food avalibe. And since raptors can jump (as seen in Udesky's scene ... R.I.P. udesky) they could get acces to it. Exept from them, we stated that maybe dilophosourus could try to get it, but now, death from wounds makes perfect sense
Bodies decompose much faster in jungles. I'm surprised there was enough of him left to swing in the trees 8 weeks later. Between flies, rats, compies, and who knows what else would have been nibbling on Ben all that time too. Imo.
@@jacobmorales1283 Because in the jungle due to heat and humidity there are more decomposers and they work faster meaning the remains are decomposed faster
He was a minor character but his death makes me really sad, he seemed like a genuinely good person who wanted to have fun with Eric and tried his best to get them out of there. It saddens me that his last moments were spent telling Eric it would be okay, knowing that he wasn't going to make it.
I want to say that this guy was actually very good. He was kind to Eric, being a father like figure to him. Trying to comfort Eric in his last living moments. Ben was nice and was trying to give Eric something else to think about other than his parents divorce. This makes his death even more depressing that a good character was killed off.
I agree. Eric's home life had to have been a mess... Ben was a nice guy trying to connect with his girlfriend's son (he may even have thought he would be Eric's stepfather someday), who just picked the wrong place to go.
Well, on one side, I hope he died like that, at least it would be quicker and maybe even less painful. But I still prefer the theory most people seem to have. The Velociraptors finding him hanging and jumping at him, attacking his legs, probably ripping them off in the process, while he climbs up higher to get out of range and then he bleeds out. It would make for one of the most brutal deaths in the JP franchise.
@@trentjensen96 bruh, nedrey got gutted in half and described him feeling his organs and realizing his head is in it's mouth before getting it crushed like a tomato can. It's gonna be gory af lol
This is an interesting take. We did the dinosaur theory lol but this one seems very plausible HOWEVER... how do you explain him being higher up in the tree?😄
Perhaps dinosaurs scavenged his body and pulled him up in order to eat him, or perhaps it was just a plot hole overlooked and the body was raised to set up the jump scare that we get from it.
@@donovanmejia6284 not really in her video she explained how she thinks he died and its most likely the truth because as she said "look how close they landed to the rapter nest" and his legs are gone and so with playtons video he didnt notice his legs where missing and also in her video after he died from blood loss the compys got him
I swear to god I read this in a novel but raptors found them and ate his legs and he had adrenaline pumping so he pulled himself up and wrapped the parachute cords around his arms when he was out of their reach and bled to death there
Pteranodons grabbed him by there claws flew away with him and dropped him, leaving his dying body to dangle from the tree. A middle sized dinosaur chopped his legs off, and was full so they went away. And then loads of compys and some baby Raptors ate the skin of the body and licked it clean ? There’s my theory
Okay here's how I believe his body got that way; after he died from his injuries, he probably started to decay lot faster due to the humid hot air on the site, as the decay goes on, most of his flesh kind of seats out through his stomach and probably his lower extremities may have fallen out due to said decay, there's a good likely chance the compies actually do climb trees or maybe even some of the insects on the island could have stripped him from his flesh. There is scientific evidence of ants having stripped the flesh off of their prey in a matter of hours, so honestly it may not even be that inconsistent on how his body ended up like that.
Imagine dying from injuries by tree in a series primarily focused on dangerous Mesozoic animals... Also, I'd always theorized myself that shortly after the camera footage cut out that the raptors had gotten him, as their nests were within fairly close proximity to the crash site, as well as his body's mutilated state and the fact we saw a Velociraptor jump an easy 7-8 up into the air after Amanda... That shot to me implied it wasn't their first attempt at picking humans out of trees...
I thought he was hurt and stuck in tree, he released Eric and he died, then various dinosaurs and birds came to taste his meats and bones, made his body shrik aparts and that's how Rescue team found him.
When I got to Ben's scene a couple days ago whilst watching JP3, I would've never thought it was internal bleeding that did him in. I always thought it was dehydration that got to him. Seeing it now though, internal bleeding makes a lot more sense. I figured that he must've been irreversibly stuck in the tree, and decided to cut Eric out so he wouldn't suffer his fate. After a few days or so, of course, he'd die and scavengers would pick him clean. I also thought maybe the chute he was wearing caused some type of internal issue related to the chute crushing his insides or something, which now I think of it, plays into his death via internal bleeding.
they fell at an angle where Ben would have taken alot more blows than Eric due to the sheer size difference. It's like trying to spit on an ant or a roach (just a comparison) the size per square inch makes Ben more susceptible to injuries or maybe he just got unlucky
Even though he may have died due to crashing through the trees, sustaining most of the injuries by branches, there's no doubt in my mind that his carcass became food for something. It would be difficult to believe that an island filled with life would let such an opportunity for a free and easy meal go to waste.
This has been one of the biggest mysteries for me, right behind the attack on the ship in the Lost world. What really confused me is the noises heard during the video recording, I could never tell if it was an animal coming for them or just the camera malfunctioning or maybe just them getting unstrapped. I think that noise is really what got a lot of people curious as to what happens. As for why his body is in such terrible shape. Small animal probably took the skin and raptors and the like the limbs. They didn't feel like tangling or chocking on the harness so they decided to leave the Torso mostly intact. I also imagine that the reason he was in the tree was because the parasail caught the wind and pullied him into the branches after expiration, before settling back down to be discovered by the Kirbys party.
@Klayton Fioriti question: if you were a Jurassic World Employee what would you do if you were present during the 2015 incident And do you think you’d survive? Also if you ever got to work at Jurassic World what job position would you personally want?
///M-GT we’ll admittedly those guns are very heavy to move around and they couldn’t exactly lock on to it as the helicopter was moving around due to wind.
As someone who studies decomposition, I think it'd be fair to say that there would be only that much flesh left on the body at that time. Bugs and heat do a lot more than you'd ever think.
He probably been slaughtered by raptors when Eric is gone, and his corpse probably got scavenged by either meat eating birds native to Sorna, or Compies that somehow climbed the trees with their tiny arms.
Before I watch the video, my idea is that Ben was killed by the raptors seconds upon landing. After the crash, Eric drops down and turns off the camera, but the sounds of the two humans and the crashing of branches, along with parental instincts and the guarding of their nearby nest, attracts the raptors, which surround Ben and close in on him slowly (like in the end). Eric runs into the forest towards the river, and Ben is left entangled in ropes and kicks to save his own life, but is quickly shredded and consumed by raptors, and later cleanded by Compys (which is why Eric fears the two species.)
But wasn't he up in the trees before being found later? He was still tangled in the parachute so unless the raptors dragged him back up there parachute intact that couldn't have been the case.
@Taijifufu His legs were missing, so they could just ripp them out and then leave him like that as the rest of his body was out of their range. Legless man's corpse hangin from a tree, I am not gonna sleep tonight
But his body is a lot larger, and his legs dangle further down - his body made the first impact with each object, and would have shielded Eric. There was more of him to be hit.
@@GriffinWolf his lower legs sure but Eric was blocking all of Bens internal organs. Anything that would have damaged Bens lungs, etc would have first hit Eric's face.
Statistically speaking, the pilot of a paraglider has a 40% higher chance of getting injured compared to the passenger. More over, although Eric blocks most of the internal organs, Ben has a larger body and most of the damage would be internal. Common injuries from paramotoring and paragliding are tibia fractures, fractured ribs, and lumbar fractures. Nearly all of the injuries are internal and most are from the impact. The injury will mostly rely on body size, mass, etc. Having a smaller body would be beneficial in this case. Either way, Ben's entire back is exposed while Eric has his front exposed. Going by your logic it would still be 50/50.
@@Preposter it was more of a parachute at that point but go run through the bushes and compare the injuries to your front versus your back. There is no scenario where they crash through the trees and it injures Ben less than the kid unless he is hit in the head.
"Human shield" You're thinking of being hit from the front. His legs and back would hit the objects while the boy bounced safely off his chest and belly
@@KlaytonFioriti we all had a childhood filled with dinosaur related things!!!! And besides that dinosaur part, The Rite of Spring, in Fantasia is my favorite part I watch it over and over again to this day and have SO MUCH respect for it!!!
Although he may have caused this entire scenario, I'd like to think Ben died a hero, from detaching the parasailing line to absorbing the fall impact to reassuring Eric
For the state of the body I always figured his lower half got bit off by carnivore that grabbed him by the legs, ripped in half, and swung up higher in the canopy. From there an army of ants, some flys, etc could easily strip the body clean.
The condition of his body seems pretty explainable to me. Context: I collect bones from roadkill in PA, which has a variety of environmental conditions throughout the year, so I have a decent understanding of what can happen to a human-sized corpse in a couple of months (we have a lot of deer). After death, the internal organs begin to decompose extremely quickly. Gut bacteria keep doing their thing, causing bloating, eventually rupturing the digestive tract if it isn't already ruptured by trauma, leaking bacteria and gut contents into the surrounding tissues. Assuming that no vertebrate scavengers have gotten to the body by then, the smell attracts flies and beetles, which lay eggs, and the larvae eat through soft parts faster than you'd think possible. Maggots, beetles, and crows/small animals can reduce a deer to nothing but bones, dry skin, and connective tissues in a couple of weeks. But of course, Ben's corpse is notably missing its skin. That tells me that either things were wet enough to allow invertebrates to even eat the skin (possible on a tropical island), and/or small- to mid-sized dinos also had a go at him and tore off pieces of soft tissue. The latter seems more likely, given the red tint of the tissue that's left - slow maggot breakdown is usually black, gray, even green with mold. So my theory is that the body was picked over by smaller pterosaurs filling an ecological niche like vultures, and any larger ones could possibly have tried to fly off with some (maybe to avoid raptors), inadvertently pulling Ben's body higher up where the ropes tangled in the branches. Anything on the ground would be eaten by raptors and compies.
As for how his body ended up like that, we could argue other dinos got to him. TLW flat out shows pteranodons so for all we know they picked his body clean and dragged him around.
Ben Hildebrand died from injuries and his carcass is eaten by some scavenging animals klayton, now as always klayton you may have a very Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
Considering this info my guess is that the impact must have broken some of the man's ribs which punctured a lung and would explain the gurgling in his voice. There could also be more internal damage given the info points to the duo falling straight down a tree almost at ninety degrees since a frontal impact would have been much worse for Eric. Ben would later die from internal bleeding, unfound by dinosaurs big enough to drag him from his place like a T-Rex or the Spino, given raptors didn't show interest or find him despite being relatively nearby and compys weren't made for climbing. This would explain why his body is rotten rather than eaten, as only bugs and maybe whatever small birds/lizards/small pterosaurids lived on the island could reach his corpse. Edit: what really disturbs me is how (or if) Eric found out he died. Since there was a raptor nest nearby the kid mustn't have been there for long. I wonder if he waited until Ben passed away more or less silently, or left to search a safer place and then returned to find him dead or simply was forced to abandon him once he made it to shelter. Poor boy must have been traumatized enough to explain his rather flat behaviour after being found by Grant.
@@winkekatze5593 it couldn’t be a water Dino that is never seen or referenced in the entire franchise up until this point. And not mentioned in this movie. Even part 3 isn’t that sloppy.
@@zakunick1 Just because it wasnt mentioned doesnt mean it couldnt be a water dino. I mean there were many Dinos on Ingens list that werent seen in the movies. Even Alan Grant talks about this. A water dino is the only logical explanation. The Spinosaurus explanation is totally ridiculous.
Well questioning what happened to his flesh and muscle in 8 days I can explain rather easily. While turkey hunting several years ago I killed a coyote kicking up nests looking for eggs. He was a nice size so I skinned him and kept the pelt. We tossed the carcass in a semi dry creek bed and left him there. 2 days later buzzards had opened him up and gone after the entrails. By the end of the week it was mostly bone and cartilage. Now Ben died in a Tropical climate with a lot more ferocious flying scavengers I'm sure. Once picked clean the weight could have caused his legs to simply drop with nothing much holding them on. Just my two cents.
As a kid I always assumed he died just after the fall and protected the kid during it. And him being higher up can be sort of explained by storms forcing his body up higher? But I always just guessed he basically died right after the fall. I think they should have added in blood droplets falling down which would have made the scene a lot more concise that Ben died.
Would love to hear you read the books as a audio book style video your heart for the series and awesome voice would really be a treat! Merry Christmas!
Another fascinating video. I've spent the last several hours playing JW Evolution and watching football. Now I close the game and get to see a great JP video.
But he'd have been torn apart, his body looks rotten rather than consumed; the lost flesh us more akin to bugs working on him than any bigger creature.
As to how his body got higher up in the tree, one way would be that as a large carnivore was chomping his legs off, it pulled down, flexing the branches his chute was stuck on. Once his legs detached, the branches sprung back, yanking his body up into the branches and tangled lines.
Simple they got stuck in the tree Eric gets out and when there about to get Ben down they hear the Raptors. Eric hides. Ben tries to climb higher in the tree but the Raptors tugged at his legs and eventually ripped them off Ben then dies of blood loss and then bugs and complies eat his flesh.
Yeah but why is he up in the tree? We can see him right above the ground on the cam seconds before he falls down the tree. But we do know that raptors like to rip arms and legs of like arnold in JP and hoskins in JW.
@@vex7149 I also thought this at first but why would they fly in a forrest. We've seen them on the coast of isla sorna. I don't think the search for food in the forrest because they're way to big to fit throug all those trees. The closest thing I can imagine to a pteranodon hunting in a forrest is a dimorohodon but we've seen them attack in Jurassic world and they couldn't lift a person up. Even the pterandodons had trouble doing it.
Great explanation of Ben’s Death in Jurassic Park III. I think he must have died by one of the Velociraptors, Pteranodons or the Spinosaurus?, we’ll find out for sure.
Well that's.... pretty heartbreaking :( Will always be so frustrated about how great this film could have been It's ok as it is, but wow, it could have been so much more interesting 'Bone Man Ben' is a wonderful piece on the soundtrack by the way!
The Tricycloplots got him.
LedosKell lol😂
This actually made me laugh!
Lmao
I don't get the joke
But it still made me smile
@@kingsolomon673 The joke refers to in III right after the initial Spino attack and the group is wandering around and the Kirbys are arguing and Paul Kirby (William H. Macy's character) butchers a dino's name by saying Tricycloplots.
He didn't have a Lucky Pack
Oh shoot.
If the script says he was “gargling” then my best guess would be that he died from an internal pulmonary injury. Maybe during the fall he broke a rib that then punctured his lung
How Would he have punctured his long if the kid was covering his entire torso?
Gurgling.
@@Frankly_Amazing2000 if he broke a rib, that could have punctured his lung. The impact at that rate of fall was probably massive.
Cass Smith Exactly, so when the kids have been crushed from the impact of Ben from behind?
@@Frankly_Amazing2000 the majority of be force would have been on the adult. He had all of the parachute attached to him. Think of it as a hanging noose, with someone hanging onto a cowboy's boots. All of the force would have been on the cowboy, with minimal shock impact on the other person.
"Even though his eyes were open, I knew he wasn't with me anymore."
Jeez... That's absolutely chilling...
TheNecroticRaptor whoa........
Sounds like a horror novel...
gave me SHIVERS!!!
Thats too much im scared,, if there were a other music thant not so
Ikr
As a kid I always assumed he got caught in the tree through his parachute and starved to death. Kinda fucked up thinking that the kid didn't help him for the days he was probably up there.
That is exactly what I thought happened lmao
Same
Hi
Now that’s some messed up bullsh*t
I assumed some dinosaurs ate him
*Not gonna lie, this Non-Dinosaur related death makes me feel bad for the guy*
I mean id rather go out like that than be mauled by a dinosaur
#Facts
Yep
The only dif is dinosour attack is faster death yhen for a couple days dying slowly
Ms Chips If we go by the book, he died shortly after the crash, so probably died within minutes from shock and blood loss.
"Why is his corpse stepped of flesh"
He's hanging, totally exposed, in a boiling jungle island. In a _tree_
It's teeming with bugs, birds, compies...there's millions of scavengers to pick it clean.
"Where'd his legs go"
Decomposing bodies don't hold together very well. And again there's all sorts of animals picking at him. Which leads to the last question:
"How'd his dead body climb up a tree"
Here's how it goes: dead body sitting there for anything to eat. A carnivore or scavenger finds it, tries to pull it down, but it can't because the parachute ropes are too tightly tangled, so it rips the body in half and leaves with its prize. A small (relatively), arborial scavenger shows up, drags the rest of the carcass further up into the tree so that it can eat in safety, just like modern cheetahs. (Also, in the book, there are arborial dinosaurs). Final result: the carcass is left in the tree, where only small animals and insects can get at it, unable to break the bones.
Great job man
Or you know the movie was poorly written.
potaterjim ok guys I get it
I thought it was pretty obvious.. It shouldn't take a detective to figure that one out
potaterjim
Feel like you were reaching here.
Nobody:
Me at 3am: how Ben hildebrand died
Everybody : that joke is overused and overrated
CampinCarl1911 now you just calm down there campin carl
You need sleep
No I need answers
Same
it’s 3:01 for me
Internal bleeding is often worse than bleeding you can see. When you're bleeding you can see where the wound is and can stop the loss of blood. Internal bleeding needs more complex diagnostic analysis to treat and it has the risk of septic shock.
Yet, the idea of blood being more dangerous INSIDE of you is still a bit funny to me. I remember asking my mom about that at age 10 or so like "isn't that where blood belongs? How can I tell if it's still all right and not killing me?"
Yeah, I wasn't exactly Dougie Houser, ok?
Our bodies should really evolve a way to reabsorb internally leaked blood...is that a thing?
@@YeeSoest give humanity a couple hundred years to evolve
@@gardevoir7137 The rate of our evolution has slowed down so much due to hospitals and medicine that a couple of hundred of years won't do anything in terms of our evolution. I'd give it a couple of thousands of years if not hundreds of thousands...
@@alaric3415 big rip
@@YeeSoest we do actually have a minor version of that 'ability'. A bruise is a pool of blood in the tissue caused by trauma that's re-absorbed into the body and disposed of by the immune system over a number of days. Those blood cells however, can not be re-used by the body again. That's probably what your thinking of. Given that life on earth has had hundreds of millions of years to evolve and not one single species has the ability to 're-absorb internal bleeding to be re-used by the body', it would be safe to assume we wouldn't develop such a thing any time soon. If anything, medical science will develop so much to the point where things like bleeding out/internally would be an irrelevant issue.
*The Pteranodons and Raptors want to know your location*
LOL
That would be the most terrifying notification a person could receive.
YOU AGAIN
@Yersultan Dosymbekov wtf how large is your cat dude? If you have seen a cat that's hip height on a human please show me that cat
I'll get my shotgun
It actually makes sense how he's decayed so much. Temperature, humidity, and exposure to Wildlife play a huge part in decomp. If someone dies in the jungle they can become a skeleton in just a few days.
Considering the bugs, it's surprising he wasn't more picked clean...
I don't remember how many days passed on the film, but even a full month on the sun doesn't make a corpse like that... (I work with this kind of stuff)
@@RaimarLunardi 8 weeks
@@JustKelso1993 well, 8 weeks depending on insects...
But then the most unrealistic thing is the kid surviving 8 weeks alone with men eating dinosaurs... lol
@@RaimarLunardi Fair lol I would die instantly if I was on an island of man eating dinos.
Raimar Lunardi Deer carcasses can be picked clean in just over a week. Ive seen it many times.
Not enough credit is given to this guy as a step father. The dude really cared for the kid even if he stupidly took him close to a dino island. He tried to get to know his stepson more and took on international vacations. Most step parents get bad rep but this guy was golden.
Credits to a person who took a kid to a...dino island? This person could have been einstein and we would have still called him the dumbest one to exist.
should have done something safer, like maybe go on a safari with lions and stuff
True that that's why I dropped the Step in stepdad and see a wonderful girl as my daughter.
@ironfist Yes, riding next to alpha predators is 100% safer than sticking far from the land with creatures from which only one from all of them can swim good enough to get to the boat
@Darvenne J probbably, although he was very far from the island. We do not know what attacked the boat, but there was just one and only dinosaur that could come close to it.
Ben's death in JP3 was one big head-scratcher for me. I knew he couldn't have been killed by a Rex or the Spino since his skeleton was still there entangled in the parasail's cords. I too believed he was injured in the landing so he couldn't get away. As to how he died, I assumed the raptors, since they landed pretty close to the nests, came across him, attacked and killed him. Then scavengers (bugs and other carrion species) and natural decay led to his body being the condition it was in. However, what if it was another species that wasn't on InGen's list like the archaeopteryx?
Archaeopteryx or even Microraptor. Maybe even both.
I figured that since his legs were missing, the raptors got those.
Raptor kill him because in a musical show raptor killing Ben by ripping his leg snapping his neck ok
@Ace B i had a very complicated discussion about it with my friend while watching it( my friend was watching JP III first time). We assumed raptors as well bexause spino and rex would eat it in one bite, compies were too small to climb and pteranodons were still closed in the aviary, although some pterosauruses were seen being free in lost world, human stuck in a tree branches wouldn't be their best food avalibe. And since raptors can jump (as seen in Udesky's scene ... R.I.P. udesky) they could get acces to it. Exept from them, we stated that maybe dilophosourus could try to get it, but now, death from wounds makes perfect sense
I like how bens gf didn’t really give af that he died lmao
@@ZenoBell016 technically he was the back up dick
She's a wahmen with options
Yeah Hank Moody
I mean, she had a spaz attack when his body slumped down.
@joshua ashley he died when he gets killed
Bodies decompose much faster in jungles. I'm surprised there was enough of him left to swing in the trees 8 weeks later. Between flies, rats, compies, and who knows what else would have been nibbling on Ben all that time too. Imo.
How do you know? 🤨
@@jacobmorales1283 Because in the jungle due to heat and humidity there are more decomposers and they work faster meaning the remains are decomposed faster
@@blaze6400 oh ok makes sense
I always thought he just read an entire argument thread on a UA-cam video and he just rapidly decomposed into a skeleton.
This checks out.
He was a minor character but his death makes me really sad, he seemed like a genuinely good person who wanted to have fun with Eric and tried his best to get them out of there. It saddens me that his last moments were spent telling Eric it would be okay, knowing that he wasn't going to make it.
I want to say that this guy was actually very good. He was kind to Eric, being a father like figure to him. Trying to comfort Eric in his last living moments. Ben was nice and was trying to give Eric something else to think about other than his parents divorce. This makes his death even more depressing that a good character was killed off.
I agree. Eric's home life had to have been a mess... Ben was a nice guy trying to connect with his girlfriend's son (he may even have thought he would be Eric's stepfather someday), who just picked the wrong place to go.
So how did Eric manage to survive?
Well, on one side, I hope he died like that, at least it would be quicker and maybe even less painful. But I still prefer the theory most people seem to have. The Velociraptors finding him hanging and jumping at him, attacking his legs, probably ripping them off in the process, while he climbs up higher to get out of range and then he bleeds out. It would make for one of the most brutal deaths in the JP franchise.
If it had been actually written by Crichton, it would've been brutal. I can guarantee it.
@@trentjensen96 bruh, nedrey got gutted in half and described him feeling his organs and realizing his head is in it's mouth before getting it crushed like a tomato can. It's gonna be gory af lol
@@eldamari79 omg I need to read the book
Good idea, but how could he climb up higher without any legs? The shock alone from losing them could kill him in no time.
@@dinosaurwoman arms
Answer: The Predators got him, but his spine and head were not good enough to be kept as a trophy
Lol yeah
Lol I always said that too😅
If Predators were on Isla Sorna, then the survivors of JP3 would've had a few less predatory dinosaurs to worry about including the Spinosaurus.
This is an interesting take. We did the dinosaur theory lol but this one seems very plausible HOWEVER... how do you explain him being higher up in the tree?😄
Like in your pov
Perhaps dinosaurs scavenged his body and pulled him up in order to eat him, or perhaps it was just a plot hole overlooked and the body was raised to set up the jump scare that we get from it.
@@donovanmejia6284 not really in her video she explained how she thinks he died and its most likely the truth because as she said "look how close they landed to the rapter nest" and his legs are gone and so with playtons video he didnt notice his legs where missing and also in her video after he died from blood loss the compys got him
I swear to god I read this in a novel but raptors found them and ate his legs and he had adrenaline pumping so he pulled himself up and wrapped the parachute cords around his arms when he was out of their reach and bled to death there
Pteranodons grabbed him by there claws flew away with him and dropped him, leaving his dying body to dangle from the tree.
A middle sized dinosaur chopped his legs off, and was full so they went away.
And then loads of compys and some baby Raptors ate the skin of the body and licked it clean ?
There’s my theory
That’s honestly heart wrenching in a way. I imagine that he intentionally took those blows for him... and paid the price.
Here’s to Ben.
And his girlfriend barely even cared.
Michael ouch...
I think he shielded Eric
@@fm_0523 which he did. As an adult comparing it to a teen sized body, he *did* shield Eric and protected him from most of the fall.
The blonde annoyed tge fuck outta me i was kinda hoping shed die
“NEEEEOOOOOOO NOT YEAAAT!!”
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I haven't seen JP3 in at least 17 years and god I can still hear this comment.
Okay here's how I believe his body got that way; after he died from his injuries, he probably started to decay lot faster due to the humid hot air on the site, as the decay goes on, most of his flesh kind of seats out through his stomach and probably his lower extremities may have fallen out due to said decay, there's a good likely chance the compies actually do climb trees or maybe even some of the insects on the island could have stripped him from his flesh. There is scientific evidence of ants having stripped the flesh off of their prey in a matter of hours, so honestly it may not even be that inconsistent on how his body ended up like that.
Imagine dying from injuries by tree in a series primarily focused on dangerous Mesozoic animals...
Also, I'd always theorized myself that shortly after the camera footage cut out that the raptors had gotten him, as their nests were within fairly close proximity to the crash site, as well as his body's mutilated state and the fact we saw a Velociraptor jump an easy 7-8 up into the air after Amanda... That shot to me implied it wasn't their first attempt at picking humans out of trees...
They snapped his legs after that the blood attracted pteranodon (my guess) and there are compies in his skeleton eating his leftovers
If raptors found him, there'd be nothing left.
I thought he was hurt and stuck in tree, he released Eric and he died, then various dinosaurs and birds came to taste his meats and bones, made his body shrik aparts and that's how Rescue team found him.
When I got to Ben's scene a couple days ago whilst watching JP3, I would've never thought it was internal bleeding that did him in.
I always thought it was dehydration that got to him. Seeing it now though, internal bleeding makes a lot more sense.
I figured that he must've been irreversibly stuck in the tree, and decided to cut Eric out so he wouldn't suffer his fate. After a few days or so, of course, he'd die and scavengers would pick him clean.
I also thought maybe the chute he was wearing caused some type of internal issue related to the chute crushing his insides or something, which now I think of it, plays into his death via internal bleeding.
Also in a tropical environment decomposition typically happens faster, in addition to all the small scavengers picking at the poor guy's bones.
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I bet Ben didn't
Unless they were falling backwards, him being bigger and taking more damage wouldn't really make sense, as the kid was hanging in front and lower.
they fell at an angle where Ben would have taken alot more blows than Eric due to the sheer size difference. It's like trying to spit on an ant or a roach (just a comparison) the size per square inch makes Ben more susceptible to injuries or maybe he just got unlucky
According to a deleted scene, Ben was attacked and killed by the velociraptors, and Eric filmed the raptors as they ran away.
Even though he may have died due to crashing through the trees, sustaining most of the injuries by branches, there's no doubt in my mind that his carcass became food for something. It would be difficult to believe that an island filled with life would let such an opportunity for a free and easy meal go to waste.
This has been one of the biggest mysteries for me, right behind the attack on the ship in the Lost world.
What really confused me is the noises heard during the video recording, I could never tell if it was an animal coming for them or just the camera malfunctioning or maybe just them getting unstrapped. I think that noise is really what got a lot of people curious as to what happens.
As for why his body is in such terrible shape. Small animal probably took the skin and raptors and the like the limbs. They didn't feel like tangling or chocking on the harness so they decided to leave the Torso mostly intact. I also imagine that the reason he was in the tree was because the parasail caught the wind and pullied him into the branches after expiration, before settling back down to be discovered by the Kirbys party.
@Klayton Fioriti question: if you were a Jurassic World Employee what would you do if you were present during the 2015 incident And do you think you’d survive? Also if you ever got to work at Jurassic World what job position would you personally want?
Listen to everything Owen says and actually carry live ammunition lol
Klayton Fioriti so are you saying that the bullets they were shooting at the I-Rex were rubber bullets?
@@Competitive_Bid_ They were meant for subduing, not killing.
@@Competitive_Bid_ the door gunner couldn't hit a barn.
They should hire the door gunner from Full metal jacket
///M-GT we’ll admittedly those guns are very heavy to move around and they couldn’t exactly lock on to it as the helicopter was moving around due to wind.
This is the one death that confused me to death.
As someone who studies decomposition, I think it'd be fair to say that there would be only that much flesh left on the body at that time. Bugs and heat do a lot more than you'd ever think.
He probably been slaughtered by raptors when Eric is gone, and his corpse probably got scavenged by either meat eating birds native to Sorna, or Compies that somehow climbed the trees with their tiny arms.
The people who wonder why he seems closer to the ground in the video never heard of zoom.
Before I watch the video, my idea is that Ben was killed by the raptors seconds upon landing. After the crash, Eric drops down and turns off the camera, but the sounds of the two humans and the crashing of branches, along with parental instincts and the guarding of their nearby nest, attracts the raptors, which surround Ben and close in on him slowly (like in the end). Eric runs into the forest towards the river, and Ben is left entangled in ropes and kicks to save his own life, but is quickly shredded and consumed by raptors, and later cleanded by Compys (which is why Eric fears the two species.)
But wasn't he up in the trees before being found later? He was still tangled in the parachute so unless the raptors dragged him back up there parachute intact that couldn't have been the case.
@Taijifufu His legs were missing, so they could just ripp them out and then leave him like that as the rest of his body was out of their range. Legless man's corpse hangin from a tree, I am not gonna sleep tonight
hard to believe he took most of the damage in the decent when he was wearing Eric as a human shield.
But his body is a lot larger, and his legs dangle further down - his body made the first impact with each object, and would have shielded Eric. There was more of him to be hit.
@@GriffinWolf his lower legs sure but Eric was blocking all of Bens internal organs. Anything that would have damaged Bens lungs, etc would have first hit Eric's face.
Statistically speaking, the pilot of a paraglider has a 40% higher chance of getting injured compared to the passenger.
More over, although Eric blocks most of the internal organs, Ben has a larger body and most of the damage would be internal.
Common injuries from paramotoring and paragliding are tibia fractures, fractured ribs, and lumbar fractures. Nearly all of the injuries are internal and most are from the impact. The injury will mostly rely on body size, mass, etc. Having a smaller body would be beneficial in this case.
Either way, Ben's entire back is exposed while Eric has his front exposed. Going by your logic it would still be 50/50.
@@Preposter it was more of a parachute at that point but go run through the bushes and compare the injuries to your front versus your back. There is no scenario where they crash through the trees and it injures Ben less than the kid unless he is hit in the head.
"Human shield" You're thinking of being hit from the front. His legs and back would hit the objects while the boy bounced safely off his chest and belly
The opening with the T Rex vs Stegosaurus reminded me of the Dinosaur part from Fantasia, Klayton was that a homage to it or a coincidence?
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@@KlaytonFioriti we all had a childhood filled with dinosaur related things!!!! And besides that dinosaur part, The Rite of Spring, in Fantasia is my favorite part I watch it over and over again to this day and have SO MUCH respect for it!!!
That T-Rex vs Stegosaurus fight from Fantasia was dramatic as fuck !
Although he may have caused this entire scenario, I'd like to think Ben died a hero, from detaching the parasailing line to absorbing the fall impact to reassuring Eric
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For the state of the body I always figured his lower half got bit off by carnivore that grabbed him by the legs, ripped in half, and swung up higher in the canopy. From there an army of ants, some flys, etc could easily strip the body clean.
The footage of Dinosaur Battles and the music from that game gives me a huge feeling of nostalgia.
The condition of his body seems pretty explainable to me. Context: I collect bones from roadkill in PA, which has a variety of environmental conditions throughout the year, so I have a decent understanding of what can happen to a human-sized corpse in a couple of months (we have a lot of deer).
After death, the internal organs begin to decompose extremely quickly. Gut bacteria keep doing their thing, causing bloating, eventually rupturing the digestive tract if it isn't already ruptured by trauma, leaking bacteria and gut contents into the surrounding tissues. Assuming that no vertebrate scavengers have gotten to the body by then, the smell attracts flies and beetles, which lay eggs, and the larvae eat through soft parts faster than you'd think possible. Maggots, beetles, and crows/small animals can reduce a deer to nothing but bones, dry skin, and connective tissues in a couple of weeks.
But of course, Ben's corpse is notably missing its skin. That tells me that either things were wet enough to allow invertebrates to even eat the skin (possible on a tropical island), and/or small- to mid-sized dinos also had a go at him and tore off pieces of soft tissue. The latter seems more likely, given the red tint of the tissue that's left - slow maggot breakdown is usually black, gray, even green with mold.
So my theory is that the body was picked over by smaller pterosaurs filling an ecological niche like vultures, and any larger ones could possibly have tried to fly off with some (maybe to avoid raptors), inadvertently pulling Ben's body higher up where the ropes tangled in the branches. Anything on the ground would be eaten by raptors and compies.
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As for how his body ended up like that, we could argue other dinos got to him. TLW flat out shows pteranodons so for all we know they picked his body clean and dragged him around.
Ben Hildebrand died from injuries and his carcass is eaten by some scavenging animals klayton, now as always klayton you may have a very Merry Christmas and a happy New Year.
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So, he was killed in the fall. Internal bleeding from blunt force trauma.
I always assumed he got stuck, then picked clean by Raptors and Compies.
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Considering this info my guess is that the impact must have broken some of the man's ribs which punctured a lung and would explain the gurgling in his voice. There could also be more internal damage given the info points to the duo falling straight down a tree almost at ninety degrees since a frontal impact would have been much worse for Eric. Ben would later die from internal bleeding, unfound by dinosaurs big enough to drag him from his place like a T-Rex or the Spino, given raptors didn't show interest or find him despite being relatively nearby and compys weren't made for climbing. This would explain why his body is rotten rather than eaten, as only bugs and maybe whatever small birds/lizards/small pterosaurids lived on the island could reach his corpse.
Edit: what really disturbs me is how (or if) Eric found out he died. Since there was a raptor nest nearby the kid mustn't have been there for long. I wonder if he waited until Ben passed away more or less silently, or left to search a safer place and then returned to find him dead or simply was forced to abandon him once he made it to shelter. Poor boy must have been traumatized enough to explain his rather flat behaviour after being found by Grant.
I would love to see an explanation (probably difficult) on the two guys in the boat who died when going into the mist in the beginning of JP3
Agreed. I’m sure it’s supposed to be implying that it was the Spino. But that was never a good enough excuse for me.
@@zakunick1 A spino in the middle on the ocean on a boat travelling at high speed? Lol. Never. It probably was a water dinosaur.
@@winkekatze5593 it couldn’t be a water Dino that is never seen or referenced in the entire franchise up until this point. And not mentioned in this movie. Even part 3 isn’t that sloppy.
@@zakunick1 Just because it wasnt mentioned doesnt mean it couldnt be a water dino. I mean there were many Dinos on Ingens list that werent seen in the movies. Even Alan Grant talks about this.
A water dino is the only logical explanation. The Spinosaurus explanation is totally ridiculous.
You know what would be great? Another short film with Carnotaurus’s that camouflage at one point like in the lost world novel!
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Great video, thanks alot always wondered
" The sound of *PUMPLING* "
That's a new one for me. I've never pumpled before, nor have I heard the call of a pumpler, one who pumples.
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Major nostalgia points for the Scan Command/Dinosaur Battles music and cutscenes!
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I guess the raptors stayed with him till he died of starvation.
I assumed the Pteranodons got him they allude to that being the reason as to why people don't come out of the fog.
Thank you very much for this informative video.
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Well, scavengers could have attempted to get him down afterwards, hence the damage to the lower section
erik cannibalised his flesh to survive, and hoisted him further into tree to protect food source form scavengers
No lmao
That is. Possible though he. Died dangerously close to the Raptors so probley not
Plot twist: Eric lured his parents and the others to the island to eat them.
Another awesome video Klayton! 👍🏻
Seasons greetings to you and the family 🎄
Great video, and have a Merry Christmas.
Well questioning what happened to his flesh and muscle in 8 days I can explain rather easily. While turkey hunting several years ago I killed a coyote kicking up nests looking for eggs. He was a nice size so I skinned him and kept the pelt. We tossed the carcass in a semi dry creek bed and left him there. 2 days later buzzards had opened him up and gone after the entrails. By the end of the week it was mostly bone and cartilage. Now Ben died in a Tropical climate with a lot more ferocious flying scavengers I'm sure. Once picked clean the weight could have caused his legs to simply drop with nothing much holding them on.
Just my two cents.
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Yeah I dont really like it but I'm glad other people do
@@KlaytonFioriti glad I'm not the only one who did not like it as well.
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Thank you, this helps me understand that very much in Jurassic Park 3, The fans May hate Jurassic Park 3 but I really don't mind it.
3:55 “the non canon”
Why are you even making this video...? It’s time we stop treating non canon as actual canon
As a kid I always assumed he died just after the fall and protected the kid during it. And him being higher up can be sort of explained by storms forcing his body up higher? But I always just guessed he basically died right after the fall. I think they should have added in blood droplets falling down which would have made the scene a lot more concise that Ben died.
Would love to hear you read the books as a audio book style video your heart for the series and awesome voice would really be a treat! Merry Christmas!
Imagine falling so hard on a tree, Both your legs snap off...
“We’re gonna get out of here, pal.”
[casually wiggles bloody leg stumps]
Most likely after ben died Eric probably put his body up the tree so that no dinosaurs could get him but he was gotten to by the compys
Dr. Universe !!! Yes because twelve year old boys can lift grown men up trees
Just the other day my 11 year old stepson threw me 30ft in the air
Joel 7491 well he got up the tree somehow
Compys haven't been known to climb
Another fascinating video. I've spent the last several hours playing JW Evolution and watching football. Now I close the game and get to see a great JP video.
Klayton could you..or have you done a video on how Eric survived for 6 weeks..I love your videos..merry Christmas buddy
It could've been the Raptors, they did find him right near the nests
But he'd have been torn apart, his body looks rotten rather than consumed; the lost flesh us more akin to bugs working on him than any bigger creature.
@@Soul93Taker it mentions that his legs appear to be gone. If he were 10 feet up a tree, that's all they would be able to reach by jumping
@@jarrodedwards08 I'm thinkin Compys somehow got to him and maybe a Ceratosaur got the bottom half of his body.
Eric ate him.
That's how he stayed alive & energetic all those weeks. And it's a good thing that Ben was a big man. Lots of meat & fat.
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Yea sure, turning into a cannibal when you can have Chocolate Bars, Sweets and Canfood on the same Island
That's disgusting
@@fm_0523 yeahh.. ...
chocolate bars, sweets and canfood ughhh ..... cross!
How babaric
As to how his body got higher up in the tree, one way would be that as a large carnivore was chomping his legs off, it pulled down, flexing the branches his chute was stuck on. Once his legs detached, the branches sprung back, yanking his body up into the branches and tangled lines.
Love your background music in this video👌
The movie wanted a skeleton scare... that’s how
Yeah horrible
Simple they got stuck in the tree Eric gets out and when there about to get Ben down they hear the Raptors. Eric hides. Ben tries to climb higher in the tree but the Raptors tugged at his legs and eventually ripped them off Ben then dies of blood loss and then bugs and complies eat his flesh.
I love how you have been doing new intros every episode
I love that description of Ben's death from that survivor book. Makes me want to read it :)
Okay, he died by the fall, but his flesh and legs were ripped off by Raptors, since the survivors found him near nests.
VeX 7 i mean he was alive when they landed and didnt sound in any pain.
Yeah but why is he up in the tree? We can see him right above the ground on the cam seconds before he falls down the tree. But we do know that raptors like to rip arms and legs of like arnold in JP and hoskins in JW.
@@guybrushthreepwood2014 Interesting, perhaps Pteranodons scavenged the parts *they didn't like.*
@@vex7149 I also thought this at first but why would they fly in a forrest. We've seen them on the coast of isla sorna. I don't think the search for food in the forrest because they're way to big to fit throug all those trees. The closest thing I can imagine to a pteranodon hunting in a forrest is a dimorohodon but we've seen them attack in Jurassic world and they couldn't lift a person up. Even the pterandodons had trouble doing it.
@louis Wolfe Is this another youtuber? And if so could you please send me a link to the video?
Y’all aren’t looking at the bigger picture, Little man ate Ben since he died. Cannabilism over starving to death ;)
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Cool new intro! Very reminiscent of the dinosaur fight in Fantasia. 🦖
Your videos never fail to amaze me. Canon or not, was good to get some insight on his death.
Maybe he broke his neck by try to escape
Elaborate how
Great explanation of Ben’s Death in Jurassic Park III.
I think he must have died by one of the Velociraptors, Pteranodons or the Spinosaurus?, we’ll find out for sure.
I love that the background music is from the JP3 game 🤣💯👌 well played sir
Thank you. This question was keeping me up at night.
before watching : I guess he starved to death
Well that's.... pretty heartbreaking :(
Will always be so frustrated about how great this film could have been
It's ok as it is, but wow, it could have been so much more interesting
'Bone Man Ben' is a wonderful piece on the soundtrack by the way!
Dude you used the gba game music for this I love it!
Love your channel Klayton Fioriti