Don't let Microsoft fool you by them presenting a truly insanely bad version of Recall first only to roll it back. Literally any version of this is awful. This is them using the tactic of showing people an even worse version of something really bad first so that their still bad thing doesn't look so egregious to people in comparison. If they really listened to feedback they'd just drop the project.
I wouldn't even be surprised if in the future people forget or get comfortable with this they silently update the same original settings or worse. That's just how these people work.
is the point why Apple can't make apple intelligence people 5:40 that the problem Where does our Face ID get into than The Folder where our system folders be C:\WINDOWS\System32\WinBioDatabase you know the folder that may need Administrators right meaning ( recall needs it at System Level and not on the chip where no one can reach it 5:05 Microsoft likey learning their Pro and home is just the same just with bitlocker in pro now in home just not fully enabled not like the older people may put their keys in the C:\ Area to recover their drive
The original announcement of Recall made me sell my Microsoft stocks. Windows is such a large part of the company that if they persist with ending its usability it will gimp the whole company
Who asked for an "AI" powered anything that takes screenshots of my daily use? Pretty sure no one. Again, most consumer facing AI is created to solve something nobody asked for.
I just checked the desktop market share statistics, and windows seems to have been on a downward trend since 2009. I'm amazed they haven't learned that the reason for that is because they keep inconveniencing windows users with more and more bloat, more and more features nobody asked for, less and less performance because of all this bloat, etc. Microsoft would instantly reclaim their 98% market share if they just released a no-nonsense, ethical version of windows, with 0 bloat, only necessities, and no forced features.
Audited, end-to-end encrypted, to me I just can't trust Microsoft/Windows, I don't think there's anything that could convince me otherwise. Linux is private and FOSS by default, and I believe open source privacy measures are the future. I don't want to trust audits or rely on big corpo, it has to be open source + audited to have any trust in encryption, especially when talking about these massive tech companies that directly benefit off your data (the amount of telemetry by default with Windows is enough evidence for that). Open source projects tend to lead to better or comparable results (MPV, OBS, LibreOffice, qBitTorrent, etc.), and the best part: no subscription or price attached. The more we support Linux/FOSS the better tech will get imo.
I fully expect that they are lying and that they are intentionally siphoning off private information onto their servers. They are that greedy and that crazy.
I switched to Linux close to a month ago and I ran into some first time setup issues but once that was all sorted, it was and has been smooth sailing. I’m still dual booting because I have one game that I play that doesn’t work natively on Linux but aside from that, everything I do can be done on Linux. Now I don’t have to worry about being spied on by big corporations.
@@esphilee already dabbled like that with Mint and Kubuntu over time. Isaw the writing on the wall, just didn't want to mck with my main machines yet. Hinestly just figured Id get serious when I did my next build... not the next major OS update
Honestly, since linux gaming is getting insanely good everyday. I personally have a hard time finding a reason to use windows. Even with games I like that use some form of kernel level Anti Cheat, I just use a console for those games. Not a perfect solution but it works for me. Windows needs to step up lol
In my case, i... simply don't play those games... I mean kernel level anticheat doesn't work very well, because cheaters simply use external methods to cheat in games by routing their signals through a separate computer before the signals go to the gameserver. This is why, despite kernel level anticheat, the amount of cheaters online has increased by an insane amount over the last decade. On the other hand, games with server-side anticheat like tf2, overwatch, world of warcraft, etc, has so few cheaters it brings kernel level anticheat to shame, lol. Yeah i can live without hunt showdown and deceive inc... There's other things to play.
Consider tech companies make a fortune selling your data, its in their interest for you to have recall. These limiting features, biometric security.....personally i dont believe them.
they made sure other legit users can't look into your data.... but they? oh they have full range. Hackers will manage it as well, it's too valuable and becomes a huge target.
Honestly, the Mozilla stumbles made me switch to LibreWolf. I don't want to be "surprised" like that by my browser nor treated as a feckless dumbass by its developers. :P
I just switched to Linux, quitting windows cold-turkey. Linux has been a positive experience for me so far, comes with a bunch of cool s**t as well, like a "Free TV" app, and Torrent client (Transmission)... I would've swapped sooner if i knew Linux was THIS awesome. xD I've had no problems with gaming either, though i planned to to just quit kernel anticheat games altogether, despite being able to play like 50% of anticheat games, i've decided to put this limitation on myself, simply because kernel level anticheat isn't working very well, and that the invasion of privacy isn't worth it for a method that is ineffective. : / Kernel anticheat has had about a decade to prove its worth now, and it has failed. Devs need to go back to server-side anticheat and stop being lazy.
The only problem I have with recall is, it capture my screen every 5 seconds. It doesn't matter how they encrypt them, analyse them, keep them, I just don't want someone peeping and tracking my computer screen. I am dialy driving Linux anyway. Thank god for FSF for FOSS. Hallelujah, Alhamdullilah, Amida Butsu, Om Namo Narayanaya, Tēnā te Atua, mahalo ke Kāne.
This should not be available on ANY operating system... that's the problem... I want this gone. I switched to Linux, just in time to avoid ever having something this ridiculous on my computer. Now i'm not even sure if i'm ever going to go back to windows, lol... Linux has been a very positive experience for me!
Experian monitoring is worse than worthless. The alerts are unintelligible, and all requests for aid appear to go to young Filipinas who have no English skills. The "alerts" appear designed to just make customers think a job is being done.
Coincidentally, an Australian company just released an update on approved, or more specifically not approved, BYOD devices. Two main changes regarding security concers are : Windows 11 devices running on ARM / Snapdragon etc. and Windows 11 in general is not recommended unless special requirements due to stability and security issues. Apple IOS is not supported generally and not recommended due to security concerns. Primary supported computer OS is Redhat or equivalent, but other Linux distros can be used. Numerous companies, especially any dealing with security etc are concerned on the AI and data collection the big companies are pushing.
Surly all they would have to do is add a "mark as recall senstivive" option to the righjt click menu on folders / files - not quite sure how they would do that on every browser though for websites thougjh.
EEA = European Economic Area. It's a group of nations, including most or all of the EU, that have certain agreements relating to international trade between them.
Chris Tutus did a video on this, apparently with the latest Windows update, everybody has recall on their system and its hidden, as a matter of fact, the latest Windows file explorer is dependent on it.. Anybody that says you need an AI chip For your computer to take screenshots of what you're doing, I don't really have words for that
I just don't see how this can be compatible with any sort of intellectual property protection at a company. I can't have hidden screenshots of customer information laying around where I can't get rid of it, possibly (almost certainly) being sent to microsoft.
In short, the Linux RCE really isn't that bad, it only affects Linux servers configured with printing services, which aren't enabled by default on Debian, Ubuntu, or RHEL. Desktop Linux also isn't affected unless you have setup the printing services yourself.
I feel like i have to use bitlocker instead of veracrypt for my FDE - because of its auto unlock on boot - which i have to use as i neeed to reboot my computer remotely sometimes and also wake from sleep magic packets - does anyone know if there is a way to get veracrypt to do the same thing? even a usb unlock drive key would work for me in this situation. - id love to move fully to VC but that one thing stops me.
I'm struggling to find any clarity on this, but can someone please explain to me if this RECALL feature is per all versions of Windows 11 or does it require you to install Copilot?
its M$ they can say we did this but the password is save somewhere that any one who looks for it in plainsight hope its not cd key+ serial combo , ill give it a year or so or less the said protection is already gone someone found a way to uninstall it or replace the password with hid own user inputed password
i'm happy to stay on computer that incapable of AI. for elon's twitter situation, elon already caused havoc on twitter and it doesn't enough. he want more damage to the point where it closed forever/forcefully.
"Linux Experiment Podcast", uhuuu, i'm glad you quoted that video. That channel looks too geek, too nerdy, too childish, i dunno, but I liked it and I'm subscribed to it. 😀
Don't let Microsoft fool you by them presenting a truly insanely bad version of Recall first only to roll it back. Literally any version of this is awful. This is them using the tactic of showing people an even worse version of something really bad first so that their still bad thing doesn't look so egregious to people in comparison. If they really listened to feedback they'd just drop the project.
Not even once.
I wouldn't even be surprised if in the future people forget or get comfortable with this they silently update the same original settings or worse. That's just how these people work.
Recall is a security risk no matter what
is the point why Apple can't make apple intelligence people
5:40 that the problem
Where does our Face ID get into than
The Folder where our system folders be
C:\WINDOWS\System32\WinBioDatabase
you know the folder that may need Administrators right meaning ( recall needs it at System Level and not on the chip where no one can reach it
5:05 Microsoft likey learning their Pro and home is just the same just with bitlocker in pro now in home just not fully enabled
not like the older people may put their keys in the C:\ Area to recover their drive
Microsoft : The back door is now a Barn Door . Also .. Trust us .👀
The original announcement of Recall made me sell my Microsoft stocks. Windows is such a large part of the company that if they persist with ending its usability it will gimp the whole company
Invest in Linux. ;)
Who asked for an "AI" powered anything that takes screenshots of my daily use? Pretty sure no one.
Again, most consumer facing AI is created to solve something nobody asked for.
Now now, their investors asked for it in order to steal information to sell.
It's a needlessly complex solution looking for a [nonexistent] problem to solve.
microsoft's huge oversights when first launching recall were completely disqualifying
8:24 And of course an upgrade would *never* install it again and activate it. No way. That could never happen. Ever. Nope. Can't happen.
It also can't ever suddenly decide that it would be useful to keep a copy of all that information in the cloud. Just for safety, of course.
I just checked the desktop market share statistics, and windows seems to have been on a downward trend since 2009.
I'm amazed they haven't learned that the reason for that is because they keep inconveniencing windows users with more and more bloat, more and more features nobody asked for, less and less performance because of all this bloat, etc.
Microsoft would instantly reclaim their 98% market share if they just released a no-nonsense, ethical version of windows, with 0 bloat, only necessities, and no forced features.
@@MyouKyuubi windows 7 with support and compatibility upgrades would destroy mac and linux
@@defe1981 Yeah. : /
It will NEVER be good enough.
I'll STILL have it removed when I do a reinstall of the OS. "removed" I would NOT sacrifice my disk space for that spyware.
I said it would be back. M$ obviously see a money value in this information. It's, a, bad, idea.
Audited, end-to-end encrypted, to me I just can't trust Microsoft/Windows, I don't think there's anything that could convince me otherwise. Linux is private and FOSS by default, and I believe open source privacy measures are the future. I don't want to trust audits or rely on big corpo, it has to be open source + audited to have any trust in encryption, especially when talking about these massive tech companies that directly benefit off your data (the amount of telemetry by default with Windows is enough evidence for that).
Open source projects tend to lead to better or comparable results (MPV, OBS, LibreOffice, qBitTorrent, etc.), and the best part: no subscription or price attached. The more we support Linux/FOSS the better tech will get imo.
Which key do they have? If they have access to both keys…
I fully expect that they are lying and that they are intentionally siphoning off private information onto their servers. They are that greedy and that crazy.
I swapped to linux about a week ago, it's been a positive experience for me so far! Now i'm unsure if i'll ever swap back to windows, lol.
I switched to Linux close to a month ago and I ran into some first time setup issues but once that was all sorted, it was and has been smooth sailing. I’m still dual booting because I have one game that I play that doesn’t work natively on Linux but aside from that, everything I do can be done on Linux. Now I don’t have to worry about being spied on by big corporations.
@@jak3y3 I was dual booting, but I'm honestly just sick of corporations and the modern world. I have fully pulled out of Microsofts grips.
I stand by my statements when it came up. When I even think my machines could get recall, that's the day I switch to Linux.
You should install Linux in a old PC or Laptop and start using it today.
@@esphilee already dabbled like that with Mint and Kubuntu over time. Isaw the writing on the wall, just didn't want to mck with my main machines yet. Hinestly just figured Id get serious when I did my next build... not the next major OS update
Honestly, since linux gaming is getting insanely good everyday. I personally have a hard time finding a reason to use windows. Even with games I like that use some form of kernel level Anti Cheat, I just use a console for those games. Not a perfect solution but it works for me. Windows needs to step up lol
Helldivers 2 shows that even that sort of anti-cheat can work on Linux - currently playing on Arch. Actually made me start gaming on 🐧.
In my case, i... simply don't play those games... I mean kernel level anticheat doesn't work very well, because cheaters simply use external methods to cheat in games by routing their signals through a separate computer before the signals go to the gameserver.
This is why, despite kernel level anticheat, the amount of cheaters online has increased by an insane amount over the last decade.
On the other hand, games with server-side anticheat like tf2, overwatch, world of warcraft, etc, has so few cheaters it brings kernel level anticheat to shame, lol.
Yeah i can live without hunt showdown and deceive inc... There's other things to play.
MS has historically missed so many obvious use-cases in their development process. It's been mind-boggling to me for eons.
Consider tech companies make a fortune selling your data, its in their interest for you to have recall.
These limiting features, biometric security.....personally i dont believe them.
they made sure other legit users can't look into your data.... but they? oh they have full range. Hackers will manage it as well, it's too valuable and becomes a huge target.
Honestly, the Mozilla stumbles made me switch to LibreWolf. I don't want to be "surprised" like that by my browser nor treated as a feckless dumbass by its developers. :P
There can never be anything good when the feature is invading the privacy. So "not good enough" is not even enough.
Now more than ever it's time to switch to Linux !!!
The way to fix recall is to totally remove it.
Device encryption = Windows home + Microsoft account. Bitlocker = Windows Pro
Staying with 7 and 10-with the NSA’s “updates” off-on some machines, and migrating to Linux on others.
_Recall this: ..i.._
I just switched to Linux, quitting windows cold-turkey.
Linux has been a positive experience for me so far, comes with a bunch of cool s**t as well, like a "Free TV" app, and Torrent client (Transmission)... I would've swapped sooner if i knew Linux was THIS awesome. xD
I've had no problems with gaming either, though i planned to to just quit kernel anticheat games altogether, despite being able to play like 50% of anticheat games, i've decided to put this limitation on myself, simply because kernel level anticheat isn't working very well, and that the invasion of privacy isn't worth it for a method that is ineffective. : /
Kernel anticheat has had about a decade to prove its worth now, and it has failed.
Devs need to go back to server-side anticheat and stop being lazy.
updates off? which ones? I'm running Win10 and got CoPilot today, and I'm figuring out what it has access to.
Recall should be uninstalled by default
Windows is a malware.
Nobody asked for recall... I'm certainly not walking MS's path anymore.
The only problem I have with recall is, it capture my screen every 5 seconds.
It doesn't matter how they encrypt them, analyse them, keep them, I just don't want someone peeping and tracking my computer screen.
I am dialy driving Linux anyway. Thank god for FSF for FOSS. Hallelujah, Alhamdullilah, Amida Butsu, Om Namo Narayanaya, Tēnā te Atua, mahalo ke Kāne.
F**k Recall! you Heard me Microsoft.
They can fix recall by removing it
DISM has a way to disable Recall, I used that.
This is becoming a must listen every time it comes out
This should not be available on ANY operating system... that's the problem... I want this gone.
I switched to Linux, just in time to avoid ever having something this ridiculous on my computer. Now i'm not even sure if i'm ever going to go back to windows, lol... Linux has been a very positive experience for me!
Experian monitoring is worse than worthless. The alerts are unintelligible, and all requests for aid appear to go to young Filipinas who have no English skills. The "alerts" appear designed to just make customers think a job is being done.
Fedora doesn't have cups enabled by default.
Coincidentally, an Australian company just released an update on approved, or more specifically not approved, BYOD devices.
Two main changes regarding security concers are :
Windows 11 devices running on ARM / Snapdragon etc. and Windows 11 in general is not recommended unless special requirements due to stability and security issues.
Apple IOS is not supported generally and not recommended due to security concerns.
Primary supported computer OS is Redhat or equivalent, but other Linux distros can be used.
Numerous companies, especially any dealing with security etc are concerned on the AI and data collection the big companies are pushing.
Can someone explain to what exactly recall is supposed to do that I want?
The issue is, they will use Recall to train their AI on. MS is going to be using customers activity to get the information that AI needs to learn.
You guys really believe what Microsoft is saying.
We also believe Linux have so many vulnerabilities and still use it.
Don't judge.
Change to , it's more secure!
@@muhammadyusoffjamaluddin There's a difference between having vulnerabilities that need fixing, and... INTENTIONALLY INSTALLING MORE VULNERABILITIES!
@@muhammadyusoffjamaluddin you think Win doesn't have them?
@muhammadyusoffjamaluddin, I know your mom is not perfect, but you shouldn't compare her to the peeping Tom next door.
Boy oh boy, am I ever happy I have been running Linux full time since 2015.
You were ahead of your time, boeh! 🤠
Brave does have an additional data collection setting turned on by default even when you turn off the other one during setup.
"some people work weekends, some people work late nights"
Me: I work both weekends and overnights lmao
Surly all they would have to do is add a "mark as recall senstivive" option to the righjt click menu on folders / files - not quite sure how they would do that on every browser though for websites thougjh.
EEA = European Economic Area. Basically the broader economic union, not just EU Member States.
EEA = European Economic Area. It's a group of nations, including most or all of the EU, that have certain agreements relating to international trade between them.
Chris Tutus did a video on this, apparently with the latest Windows update, everybody has recall on their system and its hidden, as a matter of fact, the latest Windows file explorer is dependent on it.. Anybody that says you need an AI chip For your computer to take screenshots of what you're doing, I don't really have words for that
It'll be good when they scrap it
Uh wow so MS wants your biometric data, e.g. picture ? No thanks after Win10 is done I am switching to Linux.
I just don't see how this can be compatible with any sort of intellectual property protection at a company. I can't have hidden screenshots of customer information laying around where I can't get rid of it, possibly (almost certainly) being sent to microsoft.
In short, the Linux RCE really isn't that bad, it only affects Linux servers configured with printing services, which aren't enabled by default on Debian, Ubuntu, or RHEL. Desktop Linux also isn't affected unless you have setup the printing services yourself.
@@mx338 cups was on by default on my Ubuntu Desktop install
I feel like i have to use bitlocker instead of veracrypt for my FDE - because of its auto unlock on boot - which i have to use as i neeed to reboot my computer remotely sometimes and also wake from sleep magic packets - does anyone know if there is a way to get veracrypt to do the same thing? even a usb unlock drive key would work for me in this situation. - id love to move fully to VC but that one thing stops me.
Maybe you need a KVM?
@@MadsterV I would still need to use BitLocker for the host FDE though
man that's a lot of work going into something that not a single soul asked for.
the only good thing about recall is that you can uninstall it... it's bad that it's installed at all by default though
That may be the case now but I wouldn’t be surprised if later in Microsoft made it impossible to uninstall recall
Ok so do i switch to Librewolf or Brave?
I'm struggling to find any clarity on this, but can someone please explain to me if this RECALL feature is per all versions of Windows 11 or does it require you to install Copilot?
It's only available on devices that meet specific hardware specifications, which at this time is Copilot+ PCs. There's more details in the article.
Where's the link for jmp? Did they forgot to add it?
Now come on bruh, u really wearing a Proton shirt agghhh lol.
its M$ they can say we did this but the password is save somewhere that any one who looks for it in plainsight hope its not cd key+ serial combo , ill give it a year or so or less the said protection is already gone someone found a way to uninstall it or replace the password with hid own user inputed password
i'm happy to stay on computer that incapable of AI.
for elon's twitter situation, elon already caused havoc on twitter and it doesn't enough. he want more damage to the point where it closed forever/forcefully.
"Linux Experiment Podcast", uhuuu, i'm glad you quoted that video. That channel looks too geek, too nerdy, too childish, i dunno, but I liked it and I'm subscribed to it. 😀
Windows Recall...Yea.... no fu---- way. No.
Looks like I moved to Linux just in time XD
No one even asked for this
first
Gavin Newsom... :/