I wonder if Daniel has heard Alex Gourevitch on the Bungacast podcast discuss this topic (in a recent episode called “Dead Ends…”). It’s a fascinating example of two very intelligent people having apparently extremely very different orientations. I struggle to square them. A discussion / debate between Tutt and Gourevitch would be fascinating.
As to the discussion about depersonalised and personalized form of domination, I remember zizek talking about how when capitalism becomes for rent we can see personalized forms of domination. If you see it from this perspective, we can understand all the right wing populist movements in the world as bringing in this personal domination to sustain what is generally called as financial capitalism. I think if we understand the violence against Palestinians in this way we are putting them as modern subjects not as some barbarians as Israel claims them to be. Here, this war against Palestinians then becomes a focal point in understanding the new form of capitalism without democratic characteristics.
This is very broad discussion touching on Habermas, Foucault, Marx, Colonialism, Occupation, Imperialism, Zionism, Fascism, Palestinian resistance/struggle, Global south and Capitalism. This was difficult to process because of the format and density of arguments and you all know each other's positions. I'll be perfectly honest with you all, this will not resonate with any media outlet never mind a view base. Gen Z are the best chance of creating change so ideas and concepts must be refined into micro sizes arguments which upscale like fractals. You've all spent a great deal of time on these ideas and can meander through them for hours with like minded people, unfortunately the young can't. Distill the core concepts into undistorted symphonic arguments that can be TikTok'ed. This is the arena in which we all live like it or not. Academia is incomprehensible to society you may as well be speaking in Leonese. No more Umms Maya❤
Hey Im a real-life gen z here and I can tell you and these people and long form lectures like this have been super influential on my thinking for a long time. Gen z is not a monolith and not all of us are incapable of absorbing information outside of tik tok. Maybe if you want to be able to depend on young people you should restrain from cheap stereotyping.
@@ravivsarch6131 you are not a cultural captive obviously but to suggest millions of your generation aren't trapped by capitalist realism, consumerism, material pop culture and highly processed foods and data is not a broadly held position. If they were all awake the whole of capitalism would be devastated instantly! As far as I'm aware capitalism is thriving in this manufactured chaos and genocides of the others.
What we need is to encourage critical thought, and short forming everything for the waning modern attention span is part of the problem where that's concerned. Not everything is meant to be comprehended and digested by the mass line.
@@MVSSys ignorance is coded into society by design, it's useful to have a large illiterate mass easy to manipulate and control, the UK riots were the poor working class are attacking migrant centres and lynching Muslims in the street. Ignorance is a flame that burns down a society on the brink of economic hardship. Europe is a tinderbox again by design. War is pure profit and joy for the globalist.
I wonder if Daniel has heard Alex Gourevitch on the Bungacast podcast discuss this topic (in a recent episode called “Dead Ends…”). It’s a fascinating example of two very intelligent people having apparently extremely very different orientations. I struggle to square them. A discussion / debate between Tutt and Gourevitch would be fascinating.
That was a great pod
As to the discussion about depersonalised and personalized form of domination, I remember zizek talking about how when capitalism becomes for rent we can see personalized forms of domination. If you see it from this perspective, we can understand all the right wing populist movements in the world as bringing in this personal domination to sustain what is generally called as financial capitalism. I think if we understand the violence against Palestinians in this way we are putting them as modern subjects not as some barbarians as Israel claims them to be. Here, this war against Palestinians then becomes a focal point in understanding the new form of capitalism without democratic characteristics.
This is very broad discussion touching on Habermas, Foucault, Marx, Colonialism, Occupation, Imperialism, Zionism, Fascism, Palestinian resistance/struggle, Global south and Capitalism.
This was difficult to process because of the format and density of arguments and you all know each other's positions.
I'll be perfectly honest with you all, this will not resonate with any media outlet never mind a view base.
Gen Z are the best chance of creating change so ideas and concepts must be refined into micro sizes arguments which upscale like fractals.
You've all spent a great deal of time on these ideas and can meander through them for hours with like minded people, unfortunately the young can't.
Distill the core concepts into undistorted symphonic arguments that can be TikTok'ed. This is the arena in which we all live like it or not.
Academia is incomprehensible to society you may as well be speaking in Leonese.
No more Umms Maya❤
adorno would be lovin this
Hey Im a real-life gen z here and I can tell you and these people and long form lectures like this have been super influential on my thinking for a long time. Gen z is not a monolith and not all of us are incapable of absorbing information outside of tik tok. Maybe if you want to be able to depend on young people you should restrain from cheap stereotyping.
@@ravivsarch6131 you are not a cultural captive obviously but to suggest millions of your generation aren't trapped by capitalist realism, consumerism, material pop culture and highly processed foods and data is not a broadly held position. If they were all awake the whole of capitalism would be devastated instantly! As far as I'm aware capitalism is thriving in this manufactured chaos and genocides of the others.
What we need is to encourage critical thought, and short forming everything for the waning modern attention span is part of the problem where that's concerned. Not everything is meant to be comprehended and digested by the mass line.
@@MVSSys ignorance is coded into society by design, it's useful to have a large illiterate mass easy to manipulate and control, the UK riots were the poor working class are attacking migrant centres and lynching Muslims in the street.
Ignorance is a flame that burns down a society on the brink of economic hardship. Europe is a tinderbox again by design. War is pure profit and joy for the globalist.