@@seanpowers1899 In the orginial game Sarevok had 100% MR and was immune to them, with TotSC his MR became 0%. Nowadays these traps are the creative way to kill Sarevok. However, there is always the possbility to put the old SAREVO.cre into the override folder...
My god. It would've been one thing to see this done in the original but in the Enhanced Edition with the amount of things they patched? This is certainly very impressive. Never thought I would see anything like this in the Enhanced Edition! Seems triggering multiple dialogues can break the game since it seems to confuse the game into thinking a certain dialogue option was picked even if it was not available at the time :)
Thanks for the explanation. I was so confused by the fact that he somehow managed to raise 140k XP finishing just one quest that it didn't occur to me that he simply cheesed multiple triggers. I was gawking at the screen wondering that the reward seems pretty decent even for SoA and ToB)). Concerning triggers, I don't understand why they didn't implement rewards as simple "binary semaphores" or true/false toggles from the very beginning. You know, like each quest has the toggled_reward attribute, so the player could still break scripts, etc, but at least would be able to collect multiple XP rewards. And about beamdogs, I think they're too incompetent to fix really difficult things, like the pathfinder, and too lazy to do tedious tasks, like rewriting classes from scratch with all the dependent code...
Being max level before Nashkel Mines? Shit like this is why I prefer glitchless speedruns for certain games. There's an awesome Glitchless Speedrun of the original BG (BG Vanilla, as some people call it) on UA-cam where the guy just uses a crazy combination of learned spells, spell scrolls, potions, and strategies to beat it and it's simply godlike. And he never goes past level 3, he even levels up sometimes and just never hits the level up button.
Respect for that run... Interesting to see new exploits... legit one with the traps for the final battle... and the one with Kirinhale... Even with conversations(to get in Candlekeep and Duchal palace)... Simply Impressed...
Me too, and it's still just like that for me. I play games slowly and take my time with everything as much as the gameplay allows it and the story still makes sense. I've played the BG games extensively, both legitimately as well as otherwise (cheated, hacked and torn apart), but speedrunning is not one of my goals with any games. Of course, speedruns often don't respect the ways a game was originally intended to be played, so they're not to be taken as a comparison, anyway.
I just finished the game after 46 hours, and now I see this... THIS WAS AWSOME! The Saverok fight was a fucking pain in the ass, never thought about the traps, awsome idea
+Nachtruh You can also keep your party members at the door, take a party member (with boots of speed) and hit Saverok with an explosion then run to the door and exit. He will follow you out the door but Angelo and the other guy will not. So, you can legit 1v1 him =P
Trevor CliffordThats me using the Blade kit's special ability "Offensive Spin" which gives you 2x movement speed among other buffs for 24 seconds. Although it gives the blur effect visually, it doesn't apply the defensive qualities of the mage spell.
It would be interesting to see this in the original BG without taking advantage of the merits of TotSC. A Sarevok with 100% MR is immune to the traps in the center of Bhaal's temple. ;) Nonetheless, very nice.
Maybe i'm noob. But what's the trick with Xzar and Montaron going to candlekeep and avoid all that bandit camp and baludr's city stuff just when nashkel is done ?
some kind of dialogue exploit. I think it's having a previous dialogue menu with more options (1 and 2 instead of just 1), allowing you to choose option 2 when it's not supposed to be visible. for Candlekeep it let him choose 2 (here's my book), and for the palace it let him choose 3 (here's my invitation)
Great run. I found an exploit where I would talk to sarevok from the very left, then have only him follow me into the top left corner. Then I'd unleash with my dual wield fighter elf. I managed to kill him in less than a minute.
did i see it right ,the potion bug WORKS? i swear i believed it was fixed (well maybe they only fixed that tons of gems cheat) and how, just how did you get around the guard at candlekeep? is it because if you have the book it is the second option to give it to the guard and due to the relayed kick of montaron you had a dialouge with two options you had not chosen yet?
The old underflow bug doesnt work, but you still can swap potions and scrolls in place of things you've used in your inventory. The example in the video of the healing potion triggering the strength potion instead for instance.
+Jiseed to bad they fixed the underflowbug it´s been quite useful^^ to bad i did not know it when i played old bg1 (though i doubt it worked there after all it unpaused in the inventory so you´d drink the potion to quickly)would have been rather useful^^ i mean candle keep gives you everything you need for that glitch^^ in bg2 it was one of my favorite glitches^^ as you just got the 15.000 gold effortlessly (i mean you sell the stones, if thats not enough buy one back and go again^^) and could get the amulet of power in five minutes and then go for the quests with already overpowered equipement^^
+Jiseed I've spent like an hour real time trying to do that potion trick. Would you be so kind as to give me step by step tutorial on how to make it work? I'd be mighty grateful! PS You used that trick to dupe potions, right?
We use the multiple dialog glitch which involves interrupting a dialogue (in this case by despawning Montaron) which allows us to select that conversation's options (1,2, etc.) in a different conversation. By selecting the number 2 dialogue option we are able to select the (currently hidden) option to enter Candlekeep as if we have the Tome from the Duke.
STAWP TouCHHING MEE!!! Congrats. I'm the kid that put 4,000 hours of my childhood into this and only made it through 4 chapters before having to use that cheating config to finish the game. I then put 4000 more hours into this and made it through the city of Baldur's Gate, before I decided to rest-spam bandit scalps for GP and XP and then I quit.
@@OneWayTraffic Thanks lol. Funnily enough, I played this with my best friend in prep for BG3 and you know what? The thing that I didn't do was explore every map entirely. I thought as a kid, that I could just skip parts and still beat the game. NOPE
While I like glitches like using conversation glitch to kill Elminster for tons of exp.. glitching at 4:55 to start the game at level 9 is taking exploiting a bit too far. Might as well just give yourself max level at start. Other than that the run was great.
Watermark0n first of all it doesn't say any %. Second it doesn't change the point, glitches can be a fun way to experience the game, but abusing a cheat like this to instantly go to max level is not any different than just setting yourself max level with console. You might as well just use the console to teleport yourself to sarevok and call it a speedrun if you're going to abuse a cheat this badly.
@@Watermark0n you do realize neither any% nor speedrun refers to whether glitches are being abused, but just to completing the game as fast as possible without completing every task the game has to offer. Thus if you know the words you said - it would state nothing about the use of glitches. Usually however, if you don't mention that it is a glitchless speedrun, it does mean glitches are allowed. Regardless i do agree with Zack that some of the glitches seem like you might as well just call it "with cheats", but that is just how i feel. Abusing a glitch to skip large intervals of the game seems to make the run a bit pointless - and doesn't really seem like you are completing the game. I do however not care whether he uses glitches to jump through walls or doors, or whether he abuses glitches to cast scrolls infinitely or go to max level. But that is just me i guess...
The double cutscene after killing Mulahey makes it impossible to beat the game due to the game not adding cloakwood even though you're in chapter 4. As such we have to enter Candlekeep in order to trigger the chapter increment that occurs once you leave the catacombs. This allows us to hit chapter 5 and head over to Baldur's Gate. It is additionally much, much faster than going through Cloakwood and the Mines.
Click the scroll, click the ground. Enter the inventory and swap its place on the quick action bar (empty slot). Don't wait too long to swap it or it'll be eaten up, you have to do it before the spell particles appear.
I think other categories would simply be arbitrary, "100%" would require a really solid definition of what that would be, all items? All Quests? All Conversations? too many possibilities with very little interest in it. If you're really interested in a different category, I did a "glitchless" run of BG1EE (www.twitch.tv/jiseed/c/4203585), although what is considered glitchless is really in the eye of the beholder.
Dagoth Ur Where on SDA? There is a wiki with a decent amount of information, but things like the multiple dialogue to open the Duchal Palace and the different area dialogue warping for Candlekeep Early aren't explained and I can't really figure it out just from looking at the run.
Bruce Wayne 30, 40, 50 hours? I'm not sure. There's an expansion coming out (supposedly this ye ) called Siege of Dragonspear. Maybe you want to wait for that.
If you play BG1 to the end of BG2 and it's expansion (not counting the expansion coming out to bridge the games) you're probably looking at 200+ hours if you don't skip stuff. Maybe more if it's your first playthrough. You can fit it into a busy schedule, knock out a quest here or there and come back the next day.
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7:04 I love how he stopped for a while and took the gold xD no matter if you're speed running, gold is gold after all!
The kill on Sarevok. Jesus, I've soloed that fight a good dozen times and not thought to pull that nonsense even once. Great video, mate.
It is the most effective way, though pretty lame.
I found falling back and spamming fireballs like the doppleganger fight was the easier for me, though probably a lot slower for a speedrun.
@@seanpowers1899 I don't think Sarevok set those traps tbh. I think it's built into the temple.
@@seanpowers1899 In the orginial game Sarevok had 100% MR and was immune to them, with TotSC his MR became 0%. Nowadays these traps are the creative way to kill Sarevok. However, there is always the possbility to put the old SAREVO.cre into the override folder...
I finished this game today for the first time in my life. Sarevok took me like one hour to beat :D
Awesome run, loved the Sarevok fight, kept me on the edge of my seat the whole run through. Good job.
definitely a simple matter.
Definitely a menial task.
Fine...
such menial tasks, a simple matter, fine
Lul.
4:26 I must be free. I must be free. I must be free...
the final battle left me speechless.. great :)
My god. It would've been one thing to see this done in the original but in the Enhanced Edition with the amount of things they patched? This is certainly very impressive. Never thought I would see anything like this in the Enhanced Edition! Seems triggering multiple dialogues can break the game since it seems to confuse the game into thinking a certain dialogue option was picked even if it was not available at the time :)
Thanks for the explanation. I was so confused by the fact that he somehow managed to raise 140k XP finishing just one quest that it didn't occur to me that he simply cheesed multiple triggers. I was gawking at the screen wondering that the reward seems pretty decent even for SoA and ToB)).
Concerning triggers, I don't understand why they didn't implement rewards as simple "binary semaphores" or true/false toggles from the very beginning. You know, like each quest has the toggled_reward attribute, so the player could still break scripts, etc, but at least would be able to collect multiple XP rewards.
And about beamdogs, I think they're too incompetent to fix really difficult things, like the pathfinder, and too lazy to do tedious tasks, like rewriting classes from scratch with all the dependent code...
I've played over 100 hours as a blade... I recognize how he's doing all of this, and my only thought is; "wait that was an option!?"
I thought chain back stabbing with a thief or stalker was cool. this is messed up.
Being max level before Nashkel Mines? Shit like this is why I prefer glitchless speedruns for certain games. There's an awesome Glitchless Speedrun of the original BG (BG Vanilla, as some people call it) on UA-cam where the guy just uses a crazy combination of learned spells, spell scrolls, potions, and strategies to beat it and it's simply godlike. And he never goes past level 3, he even levels up sometimes and just never hits the level up button.
Do you have a link or a video title/creator name?
That Sarevok fight at the end was really clever, that was really good.
Respect for that run... Interesting to see new exploits... legit one with the traps for the final battle... and the one with Kirinhale... Even with conversations(to get in Candlekeep and Duchal palace)... Simply Impressed...
16:46 - That was fucking genius.
Genius? It's called exploiter noob. They used glitch to gain advantage in speedrun
wow my childhood is dead. are u happy now?
yes
wtf - how did you enter into ducal palace without getting invitations from undercellars in sewers? ?
You don't need an invitation to enter the tower
Too bad you dont talk an explain during the run
Went from 8 hp to 60hp and level 9 in one click. 4:37 to 4:39
oh wow, basically if you talk to her over and over it keeps rewarding the exp,. so he was maxed leveled from spamming turning in of the quest
I find it funny as ser.Last Boss as he dies say "oh btw a final save was created so you can import this toon to the game" and dies haha
You owned Sarevok just by springing traps?? Amazing
wow you destroyed my 53:40 wild mage run, i didn't even know all these exploits existed
Yours is legit (not using glitches), and I prefer that. 🙂
My first play through when I was like 8 took me a whole summer and it was almost 100 hours...... damn
Me too, and it's still just like that for me. I play games slowly and take my time with everything as much as the gameplay allows it and the story still makes sense.
I've played the BG games extensively, both legitimately as well as otherwise (cheated, hacked and torn apart), but speedrunning is not one of my goals with any games.
Of course, speedruns often don't respect the ways a game was originally intended to be played, so they're not to be taken as a comparison, anyway.
Did they make the walking faster in EE??
hey nice work on all the baldurs ice wind runs, looking foreward to the icewind 2!
Never knew about that scroll swap glitch. Nifty. Jammy bastard. 🤣😎🤣 Good job dude.
Elminster: "Ho, there wa...WTF?"
Still confused how you got into candlekeep early o.0
I desperately need commentary.
Yeah I have no idea what happened
I just finished the game after 46 hours, and now I see this... THIS WAS AWSOME! The Saverok fight was a fucking pain in the ass, never thought about the traps, awsome idea
+Nachtruh You can also keep your party members at the door, take a party member (with boots of speed) and hit Saverok with an explosion then run to the door and exit. He will follow you out the door but Angelo and the other guy will not. So, you can legit 1v1 him =P
Saverok fight was too easy. U are either noobs or too dumb to get past him
how do you get hasted and invisible almost all the time right from the start?
my question too - what is that, for lack of a better term because i don't know the symbol "phase shifting" that he is doing from the very beginning?
Trevor CliffordThats me using the Blade kit's special ability "Offensive Spin" which gives you 2x movement speed among other buffs for 24 seconds. Although it gives the blur effect visually, it doesn't apply the defensive qualities of the mage spell.
It would be interesting to see this in the original BG without taking advantage of the merits of TotSC. A Sarevok with 100% MR is immune to the traps in the center of Bhaal's temple. ;) Nonetheless, very nice.
I was hoping to find a way to complete story mode ASAP but this sequence is so confusing :D
what happened with the succubus?
The kill on Sarevok is pro.
"Hah, you're a queer-" my fav line from imoen
Maybe being called that for most of my childhood is why I've turned out this way, man... Oh well.
That end fight... really wish I thought to do that.
Maybe i'm noob. But what's the trick with Xzar and Montaron going to candlekeep and avoid
all that bandit camp and baludr's city stuff just when nashkel is done ?
some kind of dialogue exploit. I think it's having a previous dialogue menu with more options (1 and 2 instead of just 1), allowing you to choose option 2 when it's not supposed to be visible. for Candlekeep it let him choose 2 (here's my book), and for the palace it let him choose 3 (here's my invitation)
Great run. I found an exploit where I would talk to sarevok from the very left, then have only him follow me into the top left corner. Then I'd unleash with my dual wield fighter elf. I managed to kill him in less than a minute.
Nice run. How were you able to come back so quickly at Candlekeep? I am not sure to understand what you did.
did i see it right ,the potion bug WORKS? i swear i believed it was fixed (well maybe they only fixed that tons of gems cheat) and how, just how did you get around the guard at candlekeep? is it because if you have the book it is the second option to give it to the guard and due to the relayed kick of montaron you had a dialouge with two options you had not chosen yet?
The old underflow bug doesnt work, but you still can swap potions and scrolls in place of things you've used in your inventory. The example in the video of the healing potion triggering the strength potion instead for instance.
+Jiseed to bad they fixed the underflowbug it´s been quite useful^^ to bad i did not know it when i played old bg1 (though i doubt it worked there after all it unpaused in the inventory so you´d drink the potion to quickly)would have been rather useful^^ i mean candle keep gives you everything you need for that glitch^^ in bg2 it was one of my favorite glitches^^ as you just got the 15.000 gold effortlessly (i mean you sell the stones, if thats not enough buy one back and go again^^) and could get the amulet of power in five minutes and then go for the quests with already overpowered equipement^^
+Jiseed I've spent like an hour real time trying to do that potion trick. Would you be so kind as to give me step by step tutorial on how to make it work? I'd be mighty grateful!
PS You used that trick to dupe potions, right?
..............but you didn't go to the lower levels of Durlag's Tower......
How did you glitch your way into Candlekeep? Your run is impressive but hard to follow at times.
cool run! How does that early candlekeep-bug work?
We use the multiple dialog glitch which involves interrupting a dialogue (in this case by despawning Montaron) which allows us to select that conversation's options (1,2, etc.) in a different conversation. By selecting the number 2 dialogue option we are able to select the (currently hidden) option to enter Candlekeep as if we have the Tome from the Duke.
Daaang son! Ever thinking of doing BG2 :D?
Well you wont get any roleplay xp for this, but it's impressive.
What spell did you use to avoid the effects of all those traps?
Minor Globe of Invulnerability, which is complete immunity to all level 1-3 spells
What just happened at the end?
STAWP TouCHHING MEE!!!
Congrats. I'm the kid that put 4,000 hours of my childhood into this and only made it through 4 chapters before having to use that cheating config to finish the game. I then put 4000 more hours into this and made it through the city of Baldur's Gate, before I decided to rest-spam bandit scalps for GP and XP and then I quit.
An elf fighter or archer ranger with 5 pips in longbows and 19dex is a easy path through the standard game. Most wizards never get a spell off.
@@OneWayTraffic Thanks lol. Funnily enough, I played this with my best friend in prep for BG3 and you know what? The thing that I didn't do was explore every map entirely. I thought as a kid, that I could just skip parts and still beat the game. NOPE
The encounter outside Candlekeep... I thought EE allowed you to skip it with Esc
Is that free XP bug still in the game? Man I hope not, lol.
While I like glitches like using conversation glitch to kill Elminster for tons of exp.. glitching at 4:55 to start the game at level 9 is taking exploiting a bit too far. Might as well just give yourself max level at start. Other than that the run was great.
Do you know what an any% speedrun is?
Watermark0n
first of all it doesn't say any %.
Second it doesn't change the point, glitches can be a fun way to experience the game, but abusing a cheat like this to instantly go to max level is not any different than just setting yourself max level with console.
You might as well just use the console to teleport yourself to sarevok and call it a speedrun if you're going to abuse a cheat this badly.
"Speedruns are cheating" - shitters
@@Watermark0n you do realize neither any% nor speedrun refers to whether glitches are being abused, but just to completing the game as fast as possible without completing every task the game has to offer. Thus if you know the words you said - it would state nothing about the use of glitches. Usually however, if you don't mention that it is a glitchless speedrun, it does mean glitches are allowed.
Regardless i do agree with Zack that some of the glitches seem like you might as well just call it "with cheats", but that is just how i feel. Abusing a glitch to skip large intervals of the game seems to make the run a bit pointless - and doesn't really seem like you are completing the game.
I do however not care whether he uses glitches to jump through walls or doors, or whether he abuses glitches to cast scrolls infinitely or go to max level. But that is just me i guess...
How did he get into candle keep im confused
How do you not kill a lot of people and still manage to trigger the onset of ensuing quests or chapter??
wait how did you get to candelkeep after nashkel??? >
Looks like a dialogue exploit.
now you can skip gorion battle part by esc
why dont you skip the cutscenes?
Why did you need to go to the candlekeep catacombs and such twice?
The double cutscene after killing Mulahey makes it impossible to beat the game due to the game not adding cloakwood even though you're in chapter 4. As such we have to enter Candlekeep in order to trigger the chapter increment that occurs once you leave the catacombs. This allows us to hit chapter 5 and head over to Baldur's Gate. It is additionally much, much faster than going through Cloakwood and the Mines.
Jiseed Ah neat, very well done by the way
how does that scroll trick work? i tried to copy it from watching but i miserably failed.
Click the scroll, click the ground. Enter the inventory and swap its place on the quick action bar (empty slot). Don't wait too long to swap it or it'll be eaten up, you have to do it before the spell particles appear.
thanks. okay if that cheat works in bg2ee it doesn´t with vecnas robe^^ (i´m fast but not that fast^^)
I love these well-thought and balanced games with flawless mechanics and game design)) Looks totally legit))
Are there other categories for the speedruns of bg 1 & 2 ? because i can find only the any% with glitch
Thanks and awesome work !
I think other categories would simply be arbitrary, "100%" would require a really solid definition of what that would be, all items? All Quests? All Conversations? too many possibilities with very little interest in it. If you're really interested in a different category, I did a "glitchless" run of BG1EE (www.twitch.tv/jiseed/c/4203585), although what is considered glitchless is really in the eye of the beholder.
Jiseed That's true,we could have long debates to define that
Thanks for your link i will definetly check it and follow your work
Take care :-)
Okay but how did you got back to Candlekeep?
unbelievable
Absolutely no one
Jiseed: Im fast as fuck boi
8:12 nice glitch
THIS MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE. EXPLOIT EXPLOIT HACK HACK EXPLOIT - OH HEY I PLAYED A GAME. I enjoyed it, thanks!
lol the amount of glitching is great.
how do get inside walls?
by summoning something, you can check all the glitch explanations on speed demo archive
Dagoth Ur Where on SDA? There is a wiki with a decent amount of information, but things like the multiple dialogue to open the Duchal Palace and the different area dialogue warping for Candlekeep Early aren't explained and I can't really figure it out just from looking at the run.
Nethertheless I played it 100 hours xD
This game is so good it doesn't deserve speedrunning.
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Change my mind. :D
Good work to RTA btw. :)
Bug on bug on bugged bug run. How the fuck is this "enhanced" edition?
That's NOTHING, as a kid, I beat this game in like... two weeks... jerk.
wonderful
I AMM THE LAW!!
*AMN
wow... just........ wow
Such menial task
dang.
So basically you used an exploit to get to level 9 in 4:55. WOW, SO GOOD...
glitching through walls... migthaswell use EE keeper then
Does anyone else have no idea what's going on? I mean, what is this? A video game? That you play on a "computer"? What the what?
+izdatsumcp It's a video game... roughly 50+ hours of gameplay.. this dude apparently skipped by everything to finish in 20 minutes.
Bruce Wayne
This game (especially BG2) is one of the best of all time.. IMO they are still the best RPGs ever made.
Personally I find these graphics aged less than say Neverwinter Nights 1/2 and Dragon Age etc.. because of the isomentric view.
Bruce Wayne 30, 40, 50 hours? I'm not sure. There's an expansion coming out (supposedly this ye
) called Siege of Dragonspear. Maybe you want to wait for that.
If you play BG1 to the end of BG2 and it's expansion (not counting the expansion coming out to bridge the games) you're probably looking at 200+ hours if you don't skip stuff. Maybe more if it's your first playthrough. You can fit it into a busy schedule, knock out a quest here or there and come back the next day.