That's not shouting, that's the correct level of excitement for working a 1905 Otis lift :) This is your channel, you do things your way. The people that appreciate it will support you and stay, others will go and that's fine. It this is too long, then Matt and Tom's Live Shredding of UA-cam comments is a week in comparison! (~3h50m) It seems to be the right amount of time for YT content these days, which is perfect. It is great seeing a lift of this vintage moving, even if its not moving the cabin physically. It was explained in a way most people would understand and none of it was technically challenging. Loved it, can't wait for the next part and love getting the notifications for new vids, thanks to the notification bell. :)
+Mac·au haha! Absolutely :) when i saw this lift i immediately knew "this is going to be one hell of a lot of editing" but so glad I found it as it's certainly a classic and rare find :)
I appreciate your commitment in making quality videos and the nice attention to details that you have (like the relay contacts animation). It's really worth waiting a month for a new video. Good job!
Thank you so much for these videos!!! While our generation may not be able to understand how these relays used to work, your channel always keeps these knowledge alive and remind us of how the lifts of the past look like! I really look forward to more of videos as such informative videos about how these relays work are one of a kind.
Thanks very much. Comments like these inspire me to keep going and they are appreciated. Following on from my reply to your msg above, tonight (nearly 1am lol) I'm going to try and reply to everyone. It's something that I love doing as it's you guys that watch my videos so, to me, it's my duty to try and reply to everyone, but it does create another task ;)
Thanks very much! Although I worked out the wiring (and I had that diagram also) it was Pete Lomas behind discovering exactly how the selector functioned. I'm sure I would have worked it out in the end, but this was his field of expertise and he gave me the answers needed to complete this video.
I'm not sure how I got here but I'm glad I did. This is some neat stuff As a computer guy it's fascinating to see how things were done over 100 years ago, which would now be done with a tiny industrial microcontroller!
Absolutely! I too couldnt believe the size of the machines they had to invent and build to do a simple thing that the riders in the lift have no idea and appreciation of in the motor room. Thanks very much for watching and glad you found my channel :)
You have an amazing talent to explain technical things in a way that almost everyone can understand it. I know something about how relay logic works, so this is not new to me - but I can't stop thinking that i could have never explained it so well. Plus, the intro made me chuckle.. thumbs up!
Great Video! I explored a lift similar to this design in the mid 80s as a child with my father. Only it was in working order. If only we had the forethought to document it as you have. Very well done and thank you for your channel!
This i probably the best video out their on explaining how a floor selector works since it will have progressed alot since the early days of automatic lifts but they would never leave this basic principal of operation no matter what floor selector it is it,s always just a bunch switches wired in a certain manner
Yes very interesting comment. I have a video coming up which makes this point about the two position switches for "lift above" and "lift below" for direction logic. Thanks for the kind comment :)
GREAT video. I'm sorry for shouting, but it really was really well done and worth shouting about. I really do love these videos and how you explain them and the time and effort you put into them for us so we understand. Please, keep up the GREAT work.
Another fascinating video showcasing an old school electromechanical lift control, it would be good if you could power it up & see it working, it certainly looks well engineered.
+Evan Chan The video resolution has been 1080p 60fps for a long time now. My sony WX350 is 1080p but 30 fps. The lighy level matters a lot though. My action cam in low light doesnt cope very well as its a small lens and light input into the CCD chip matters. Can't remember what video you pointed out before but I don't purposely go out to make low res videos but the video is as good as the camera i have with me on the day. Even this one was unplanned and a chance finding
True. It is a good thing that various historical societies exist who put love and money into machinery such as this. Yeah - unfortunately for the sake of glorious, old technology, people's needs continue to change and evolve. Also, the economy comes into play. Cheaper, with a faster turn-around time on manufacturing and supportive maintenance is what most building/ property owners are concerned with now.
+38911bytefree Haha. Ah osd... there are still a couple of bits in this video which im not quite happy with but sometimes you get fed up with editing the same video for so long so i have to drop my osd and uploading it :) haha
Did you ever make a part 5 to the video (talking about the "acceleration" device)? If so, can you link to it, or tell me the title of the video so I can find it?
Excellent video! Would the lift car have been controlled by an up-down lever inside the car as you see in a lot of vintage lifts? Would be great to get some pictures of inside the actual lift car. I hope all this equipment is preserved and put in a museum one day.
Unfortunately the lift car is in the middle of the shaft, and the shaft is completely closed off, else I would have loved to see it also. No, actually this lift would have a separate button for each floor. I know this because there is a relay per floor. As per the video, these relays keep the call active until the lift arrives at the floor. Not sure what buttons are in the lift car, but if you look at part 1 of these videos, there is a control box on the top floor. I don't think it's original though, as pressing the buttons you can feel a sort of "microswitchy" effect (click on-click off) when you press them - this definitely won't be original.
@@mrmattandmrchay The oldest call buttons I've seen were from the 1920s and they used a simple bronze spring pushed by a bakelite button, touching a fixed bronze pad. The Schlieren buttons have quite a bit of travel (almost 10 mm I'd say) and what surprised me most was how long you had to hold the button until the relays actually latched! I'd say close to a second!
I very much recognise that song at the start of the video. It’s the song that Samsung washing machines play at the end of the cycle! Where did you find that?!
When my son was very young (3-5) there was this evening show called BabyFirst that did some soothing music and different animations to it. One of them was this carousel with shapes that used to go up and down where the horses should be. Each time, slightly different music, and always different items (example, one carousel was a bee then on the next post was a flower. Another was a watermelon on one pole, then another fruit on the next. Anyway, the music came from here. I had no idea about the washing machine lol!
Thank you! I’ve been looking for that song because if I ever made a washing machine channel then I could use that in a Samsung washing machine brick destruction compilation lol! I wonder if anyone would notice lol? The song is actually Die Forelle (Or The Trout in English) by Franz Schubert, but I have and always will know it as the song that Samsung washing machines play at the end of each cycle. If you are not only a hand dryer/lift enthusiast, but also a washing machine enthusiast too like I am, you just can’t miss it! If you want to find it type in “Samsung washing machine song” and it will come up because it’s well known, even by people that aren’t even interested in washing machines. The Samsung dishwashers play it too, but it’s a lower-pitched and quieter version, which I personally don’t like as much, and the Samsung dryers play it also (The same as the washing machine version of the song). Anyway, yeah!
So if I understand it correctly, in onder to go to first floor you where forced to go the reception on the ground floor regardless if you where above the first floor? I guess they didn't have keyswitches back then. But wouldn't using the stop switch render this security feature useless? (suppose it has a stop switch as this feature was more or less standard until automatic doors where introduced).
We will never know ;) Can't get into the lift car as it's boxed into the shaft with no access so I guess we will never know ;) But opening the gate while travelling would do the same.
Hi, Things are very busy at the moment. I have so much to edit, so much stuff that's not going to be edited any time soon. At work, omg, the company I work for is doing extremely well - we're winning so many contracts and it's a great company to work for also. This keeps me busy Mon-Fri, leaving only evenings and weekends. I'm still dedicated to spending time with my family, especially Chay as he is 13 and I don't want to miss his younger years. A few years from now I guess he will become more and more independent and I'm going to miss him as a kid. Therefore, Saturday daytimes are out and me and Chay do kickboxing, leaving Saturday evening and Sundays, where we normally do stuff. Sorry for such a long reply, but the little time I get to edit, well, you've seen my videos, they take ages and ages to edit!! :) So hopefully, when I've cleared a few down I'll have time to do the cat sprinkler project, however, I'm about to film two EPIC things which will definately jump the editing queue! Thanks for the message, the cat sprinkler video is on the list but I really can't give a time for it to be edited as I still have more footage to take on it. Sorry for the long reply once again :) Matt
So... If i understand correctly when a call button pushed the triggers and latches the call relay thus sending power to the floor selecter and the up or down relay depending on Where the laft car is and and what floor it was called from if the relays are in sieries what,s to stop them bypassing the floor the selecter yeah Don't know much beyond the basics of lifts
you did an amazing Job. This is One of your best films ever. I'm really proud of you. By the way on Tuesday I start painting a real old elevator motor room with a working Mercury arc rectifer and the old elevator. I will try to Film as much as I could, but I will Not so much speak, because mx spoken English is to Bad and I don't like to bring you into a coma. :-) When finished I upload it, and you can, if you like, pik them up and do what you will to do. Hopefully thst's OK. So See you on Monday, maybe Tuesday. Cherrio Toni. PS: I wish you and your family a lazy Sunday
Toni Turnwald Are you actually going to paint a picture of a lift motor room with mercury arc rectifier, or actually paint the motor room walls? If so would be great to see your painting when it's finished. Do you paint in oil, water colour or acrylic? I also do paintings too :)
+ELPaso1990TX Hello, I pretty feel sorry, At 1st from Monday til I finish the painting Job, I had to paint a huge elevator Motor room on an old factory, with would be changed into a technical museum for Industry work from the beginning til 1933. The walls in the Motor room, would be painted by a special white color, because during the evening houres it would be illuminated. Into the stairway from bottom to the top there became a painting of the Industry Revolution and on the top floor, where the main mercury arc reflector is located there comes a paint, that should be illustrated how he works. ( He works pretty good and it's very quite ) Also there are 3 elevators located in One machine room, one old fright elevator, one express from 1918 and a brand new one from 1924. All machines and the complete electrical stuff are new renovated and look quite nice. The pictures in the stairway that I should paint taking me about 5-8 Werks of work. The motor room should be finished on Wednesday and after that I start uploading the fist filmes, so mrmattandmrchay can edit them, if they like, also it's possible to upload all the paintings, or the work if thats liked. The main reason for me are the old lifts, because he is interesstred in them. OK. I hope I have helped you with these message. By the way. I use a normal Film camera with CD for storage, because I'm Not so good in filming, but I hope if I took a lot of RAW stuff mrmattandmrchay can handle that. cheerio Toni
+ELPaso1990TX PS: when I have to Do painting and decorating stuff I normally use oil, chalk and normal colors to paint pictures, when O have to renovate old paintings for e.g. in a church I try to mix the same color/paint there would be used at the 1st Time. So that meens Sometimes O mix different kind of stones, sand together to get the color, or I use plants, herbs ect. for coloring. hope that was helpful thank you for the contact, my Email Aturnwald@outlook.com. Cherrio Toni
Hi Toni, sorry I haven't replied until now. Tonight it "reply to all comments night!!". I have quite a few now that remain unanswered :) What you describe is fascinating and WOW, what a place. I would be very interested to see this!! Are you still working at this old factory, or have you completed your work there now?
yes, I see what you mean. Although the heart of the Otis system was the carriage on the back of the selector. The rotary part was for precision levelling and wasn't always used on all Otis lifts.
I,m not native english speaker and the explanation due to birtish diction is very hard to follow. Why you british speak in such weird way eating consonants, twisting vocals and att he same time talk as if you have a perfect "polite" pronunciation? Sorry but hearing it from outside sounds very unpleasant and as I said before, very hard to understand.
Out of the thousands of comments I've received over the ten years of my channel on youtube, this is the weirdest comment of them all. That's my voice. I write scripts and read it out slowly purposely so that everyone understands. If that's not good enough for you then quite frankly, tough lol! I'm not hiring someone to read out my voiceovers just for your benefit, when no-one else has every complained about them. Thanks for the comment, but man this is a weird one! One of the weirdest ever!
I reaaally love old, electromechanical system like this, it's absolutely fascinating!
Mr.matt you did a great job with this one, love these early lifts.
Would love to see this lift in working condition.
Hey thanks very much for the comment :) And, me too!
Well, damn. Ancient and simple, yet elegant in its own way. Thanks dude!
+evi1wombat I agree its a very interesting look into history of what they had available back then. Thanks for the comment
That's not shouting, that's the correct level of excitement for working a 1905 Otis lift :)
This is your channel, you do things your way. The people that appreciate it will support you and stay, others will go and that's fine.
It this is too long, then Matt and Tom's Live Shredding of UA-cam comments is a week in comparison! (~3h50m)
It seems to be the right amount of time for YT content these days, which is perfect.
It is great seeing a lift of this vintage moving, even if its not moving the cabin physically. It was explained in a way most people would understand and none of it was technically challenging. Loved it, can't wait for the next part and love getting the notifications for new vids, thanks to the notification bell. :)
+Mac·au haha! Absolutely :) when i saw this lift i immediately knew "this is going to be one hell of a lot of editing" but so glad I found it as it's certainly a classic and rare find :)
I appreciate your commitment in making quality videos and the nice attention to details that you have (like the relay contacts animation). It's really worth waiting a month for a new video. Good job!
+Andrea Villa thanks Andrea :)
Very nice animation and explanation how these lift contact's work. Thank you.
This is one of those projects where I was thankful to get the thing done - took way too long to edit this one, but hopefully it was worth it
Thank you so much for these videos!!! While our generation may not be able to understand how these relays used to work, your channel always keeps these knowledge alive and remind us of how the lifts of the past look like! I really look forward to more of videos as such informative videos about how these relays work are one of a kind.
Thanks very much. Comments like these inspire me to keep going and they are appreciated. Following on from my reply to your msg above, tonight (nearly 1am lol) I'm going to try and reply to everyone. It's something that I love doing as it's you guys that watch my videos so, to me, it's my duty to try and reply to everyone, but it does create another task ;)
Your knowledge is impressive :) amazing animation and explanation too. Good work.
Thanks very much! Although I worked out the wiring (and I had that diagram also) it was Pete Lomas behind discovering exactly how the selector functioned. I'm sure I would have worked it out in the end, but this was his field of expertise and he gave me the answers needed to complete this video.
I'm not sure how I got here but I'm glad I did. This is some neat stuff
As a computer guy it's fascinating to see how things were done over 100 years ago, which would now be done with a tiny industrial microcontroller!
Absolutely! I too couldnt believe the size of the machines they had to invent and build to do a simple thing that the riders in the lift have no idea and appreciation of in the motor room. Thanks very much for watching and glad you found my channel :)
You have an amazing talent to explain technical things in a way that almost everyone can understand it.
I know something about how relay logic works, so this is not new to me - but I can't stop thinking that i could have never explained it so well.
Plus, the intro made me chuckle.. thumbs up!
+Colaholiker Thanks :) i love explaining stuff.
Really? I never noticed that, and I've seen all of your lift videos... :-P
Great Video! I explored a lift similar to this design in the mid 80s as a child with my father. Only it was in working order. If only we had the forethought to document it as you have. Very well done and thank you for your channel!
This i probably the best video out their on explaining how a floor selector works since it will have progressed alot since the early days of automatic lifts but they would never leave this basic principal of operation no matter what floor selector it is it,s always just a bunch switches wired in a certain manner
Yes very interesting comment. I have a video coming up which makes this point about the two position switches for "lift above" and "lift below" for direction logic. Thanks for the kind comment :)
GREAT video. I'm sorry for shouting, but it really was really well done and worth shouting about. I really do love these videos and how you explain them and the time and effort you put into them for us so we understand. Please, keep up the GREAT work.
+wjf213 THANK YOU VERY MUCH lol :)
Another fascinating video showcasing an old school electromechanical lift control, it would be good if you could power it up & see it working, it certainly looks well engineered.
Нужно его восстановить и включить! :)
Nice and detailed video ! Finally changed the video resolution the video now looks much sharper
+Evan Chan The video resolution has been 1080p 60fps for a long time now. My sony WX350 is 1080p but 30 fps. The lighy level matters a lot though. My action cam in low light doesnt cope very well as its a small lens and light input into the CCD chip matters. Can't remember what video you pointed out before but I don't purposely go out to make low res videos but the video is as good as the camera i have with me on the day. Even this one was unplanned and a chance finding
Another great video, thanks!
One can only hope that the lift gets a second lease on life. Great video as always.
Wouldn't that be good? It would take a miracle and a lot of time and dedication though I guess!
True. It is a good thing that various historical societies exist who put love and money into machinery such as this. Yeah - unfortunately for the sake of glorious, old technology, people's needs continue to change and evolve. Also, the economy comes into play. Cheaper, with a faster turn-around time on manufacturing and supportive maintenance is what most building/ property owners are concerned with now.
Visit www.Electrokinetica.org i am sure they will be very interested.
Outstanding vid and job, I would tell it is on the limits of OSD perfection. Many thanks.
+38911bytefree Haha. Ah osd... there are still a couple of bits in this video which im not quite happy with but sometimes you get fed up with editing the same video for so long so i have to drop my osd and uploading it :) haha
Great video. Could you please take us into a New York walk up with a broken elevator ( think Big Bang series) and explain why they remain unrepaired.
Did you ever make a part 5 to the video (talking about the "acceleration" device)? If so, can you link to it, or tell me the title of the video so I can find it?
Nope, never got around to it.
When is the acceleration unit animation coming?
Excellent video! Would the lift car have been controlled by an up-down lever inside the car as you see in a lot of vintage lifts? Would be great to get some pictures of inside the actual lift car. I hope all this equipment is preserved and put in a museum one day.
Unfortunately the lift car is in the middle of the shaft, and the shaft is completely closed off, else I would have loved to see it also.
No, actually this lift would have a separate button for each floor. I know this because there is a relay per floor. As per the video, these relays keep the call active until the lift arrives at the floor.
Not sure what buttons are in the lift car, but if you look at part 1 of these videos, there is a control box on the top floor. I don't think it's original though, as pressing the buttons you can feel a sort of "microswitchy" effect (click on-click off) when you press them - this definitely won't be original.
@@mrmattandmrchay The oldest call buttons I've seen were from the 1920s and they used a simple bronze spring pushed by a bakelite button, touching a fixed bronze pad. The Schlieren buttons have quite a bit of travel (almost 10 mm I'd say) and what surprised me most was how long you had to hold the button until the relays actually latched! I'd say close to a second!
I very much recognise that song at the start of the video. It’s the song that Samsung washing machines play at the end of the cycle! Where did you find that?!
When my son was very young (3-5) there was this evening show called BabyFirst that did some soothing music and different animations to it. One of them was this carousel with shapes that used to go up and down where the horses should be. Each time, slightly different music, and always different items (example, one carousel was a bee then on the next post was a flower. Another was a watermelon on one pole, then another fruit on the next. Anyway, the music came from here. I had no idea about the washing machine lol!
found it... let me know what you think!! ua-cam.com/video/wKyAHjU3CL4/v-deo.html
Thank you! I’ve been looking for that song because if I ever made a washing machine channel then I could use that in a Samsung washing machine brick destruction compilation lol! I wonder if anyone would notice lol? The song is actually Die Forelle (Or The Trout in English) by Franz Schubert, but I have and always will know it as the song that Samsung washing machines play at the end of each cycle. If you are not only a hand dryer/lift enthusiast, but also a washing machine enthusiast too like I am, you just can’t miss it! If you want to find it type in “Samsung washing machine song” and it will come up because it’s well known, even by people that aren’t even interested in washing machines. The Samsung dishwashers play it too, but it’s a lower-pitched and quieter version, which I personally don’t like as much, and the Samsung dryers play it also (The same as the washing machine version of the song). Anyway, yeah!
Where is it?
So if I understand it correctly, in onder to go to first floor you where forced to go the reception on the ground floor regardless if you where above the first floor? I guess they didn't have keyswitches back then. But wouldn't using the stop switch render this security feature useless? (suppose it has a stop switch as this feature was more or less standard until automatic doors where introduced).
We will never know ;) Can't get into the lift car as it's boxed into the shaft with no access so I guess we will never know ;) But opening the gate while travelling would do the same.
You need THIS at home!
May I know if you have any videos of the cat sprinkler project coming out soon?
Please reply
Hi, Things are very busy at the moment. I have so much to edit, so much stuff that's not going to be edited any time soon. At work, omg, the company I work for is doing extremely well - we're winning so many contracts and it's a great company to work for also. This keeps me busy Mon-Fri, leaving only evenings and weekends. I'm still dedicated to spending time with my family, especially Chay as he is 13 and I don't want to miss his younger years. A few years from now I guess he will become more and more independent and I'm going to miss him as a kid. Therefore, Saturday daytimes are out and me and Chay do kickboxing, leaving Saturday evening and Sundays, where we normally do stuff.
Sorry for such a long reply, but the little time I get to edit, well, you've seen my videos, they take ages and ages to edit!! :) So hopefully, when I've cleared a few down I'll have time to do the cat sprinkler project, however, I'm about to film two EPIC things which will definately jump the editing queue!
Thanks for the message, the cat sprinkler video is on the list but I really can't give a time for it to be edited as I still have more footage to take on it. Sorry for the long reply once again :) Matt
So... If i understand correctly when a call button pushed the triggers and latches the call relay thus sending power to the floor selecter and the up or down relay depending on Where the laft car is and and what floor it was called from if the relays are in sieries what,s to stop them bypassing the floor the selecter yeah Don't know much beyond the basics of lifts
awesome video mrmatt I did another roblox escape siren video for u of the shutters going up and down on siren number 2
you did an amazing Job. This is One of your best films ever. I'm really proud of you. By the way on Tuesday I start painting a real old elevator motor room with a working Mercury arc rectifer and the old elevator. I will try to Film as much as I could, but I will Not so much speak, because mx spoken English is to Bad and I don't like to bring you into a coma. :-) When finished I upload it, and you can, if you like, pik them up and do what you will to do. Hopefully thst's OK. So See you on Monday, maybe Tuesday. Cherrio Toni. PS: I wish you and your family a lazy Sunday
Toni Turnwald Are you actually going to paint a picture of a lift motor room with mercury arc rectifier, or actually paint the motor room walls? If so would be great to see your painting when it's finished. Do you paint in oil, water colour or acrylic? I also do paintings too :)
+ELPaso1990TX Hello, I pretty feel sorry, At 1st from Monday til I finish the painting Job, I had to paint a huge elevator Motor room on an old factory, with would be changed into a technical museum for Industry work from the beginning til 1933. The walls in the Motor room, would be painted by a special white color, because during the evening houres it would be illuminated. Into the stairway from bottom to the top there became a painting of the Industry Revolution and on the top floor, where the main mercury arc reflector is located there comes a paint, that should be illustrated how he works. ( He works pretty good and it's very quite ) Also there are 3 elevators located in One machine room, one old fright elevator, one express from 1918 and a brand new one from 1924. All machines and the complete electrical stuff are new renovated and look quite nice. The pictures in the stairway that I should paint taking me about 5-8 Werks of work. The motor room should be finished on Wednesday and after that I start uploading the fist filmes, so mrmattandmrchay can edit them, if they like, also it's possible to upload all the paintings, or the work if thats liked. The main reason for me are the old lifts, because he is interesstred in them. OK. I hope I have helped you with these message. By the way. I use a normal Film camera with CD for storage, because I'm Not so good in filming, but I hope if I took a lot of RAW stuff mrmattandmrchay can handle that. cheerio Toni
+ELPaso1990TX PS: when I have to Do painting and decorating stuff I normally use oil, chalk and normal colors to paint pictures, when O have to renovate old paintings for e.g. in a church I try to mix the same color/paint there would be used at the 1st Time. So that meens Sometimes O mix different kind of stones, sand together to get the color, or I use plants, herbs ect. for coloring. hope that was helpful thank you for the contact, my Email Aturnwald@outlook.com. Cherrio Toni
Hi Toni, sorry I haven't replied until now. Tonight it "reply to all comments night!!". I have quite a few now that remain unanswered :) What you describe is fascinating and WOW, what a place. I would be very interested to see this!! Are you still working at this old factory, or have you completed your work there now?
Nice
Turn it on
Resembles the old Otis, but horizontal instead of vertical.
yes, I see what you mean. Although the heart of the Otis system was the carriage on the back of the selector. The rotary part was for precision levelling and wasn't always used on all Otis lifts.
You're so close to 10K subscribers! Awesome video! :D (Bell Icon: TURNED ON)
Yeah I know, this is so cool! I have to remember to keep monitoring it. Thanks for the comment :)
Hey the realy carasel stoped!
The 3 people that disliked this video have lost their lift riding privileges!!
Was this otis?
I,m not native english speaker and the explanation due to birtish diction is very hard to follow. Why you british speak in such weird way eating consonants, twisting vocals and att he same time talk as if you have a perfect "polite" pronunciation? Sorry but hearing it from outside sounds very unpleasant and as I said before, very hard to understand.
Out of the thousands of comments I've received over the ten years of my channel on youtube, this is the weirdest comment of them all. That's my voice. I write scripts and read it out slowly purposely so that everyone understands. If that's not good enough for you then quite frankly, tough lol! I'm not hiring someone to read out my voiceovers just for your benefit, when no-one else has every complained about them. Thanks for the comment, but man this is a weird one! One of the weirdest ever!