Cell vs Majin Buu - Which is the better Dragon Ball Z Saga?
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- The Cell Arc vs The Buu Arc, which is better? We talk about the Pros and Cons of the Majin Buu Saga and Cell Saga and delve into its best moments: Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, Super Vegetto, Majin Vegeta's Sacrifice, Cell vs Buu as villains and more. Cell vs Frieza Saga: • Frieza Saga Vs Cell Sa...
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Here's the thing...the best thing about the Buu Arc is Vegeta. Vegeta's character development and his rivalry with Goku is brought full circle here and honestly my favorite part of this arc is Goku and Vegeta working together starting from fusing into Vegito through finishing off Kid Buu because of that. Their dynamic in this arc is fantastic when they are working together. Not to mention the Majin Vegeta fight, although that is kind of impacted negatively by the fact we know Goku wasn't going all out in that battle. Still Vegeta's sacrifice against Fat Buu was a beautiful moment for his character. When Vegeta admits Goku is better than him, that line still sends chills down my spine. I remember as a kid my jaw literally dropped when he said that.
That being said...I didn't like the direction they took with Gohan. Him being cocky against Super Buu was a repeat of his mistakes against Cell. We should have seen Gohan learn from that mistake and not repeat it this arc because Gohan is too damn smart to be that thick headed. I would have liked Piccolo to be more than Gotenks' babysitter. Gotenks' also felt kind of like a waste too. The story seems to set up this whole next generation taking over theme, but it never goes anywhere and the next generation fails. It felt like, this arc, more than another, Toriyama couldn't decide how to end it and you can feel the exhaustion from Toriyama through his writing in this one.
Not to mention, as much as I like the idea of Uub, that ending just doesn't feel like a proper ending for the story. It's a great ending for the arc, but not for the story as whole. Of course GT's ending feels like the better ending for the story overall.
Supreme Kai was so cool at first, but got sidelined. The reintroduction of magic was great in concept but Toriyama didn't go far enough with it IMO.
Also the Super Saiyan thing got ridiculous with Super Saiyan 3. As cool as it was a kid, it really feels unnecessary. Super Saiyan 2 wasn't even called Super Saiyan 2 until the Buu Saga, it was Super Saiyan Grade 5 and implied to be basically the true full potential of the Super Saiyan power. Like Super Saiyan but perfected. Which is what the Cell Saga was building up to and why Super Saiyan was still cool in the Cell Saga and impactful. IMO Goku should have used Super Saiyan with Kaioken. Super Kaioken would basically provide all the same plot points of Super Saiyan 3. Super Kaioken provides a massive boost of power, but it creates a lot of strain so that Goku cannot use it for long periods of time just like Super Saiyan 3. And it would have made a lot of sense to have Goku combine his two biggest sources of power at this point: Kaioken and Super Saiyan. But Fusion is still freaking awesome though, I love it.
But...to end it on a positive note, this arc did make people love Hercule/Mr. Satan and that was an impressive feat in and of itself.
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The only thing I disagree with is your perspective on Super Saiyan 2. Now, this is 100% benefitted by hindsight, but I truly don’t understand how anyone could construe Gohan’s SS2 transformation as simply a new grade of SS1. The whole point of grade 4 was that THAT was the perfection of SS1: no stamina drain and no emotional change. SS2 was powerful, but seemingly regressed from what made grade 4 perfect because it made Gohan more violent. Plus, it gave him a completely new hairstyle which never happened with the SS1 grades. The closest thing is that Trunks broke through his hair tie when he went grade 3, so we just saw what his regular SS1 hairstyle would’ve been without it.
@@Watermelon_Man There were data books released after the Cell Saga that call what Gohan achieved in the Cell Games “Super Saiyan Grade 5” it wasn’t called Super Saiyan 2 until Goku was demonstrating the forms to Babidi and Buu before going SSJ3. Toriyama even suggested in interviews SSJ3 was him grasping for new power up ideas. So SSJ2 was an extension of SSJ originally.
This is why I think Goku should have had Super Kaioken instead. After mastering Super Saiyan and having an Other World body, he finds it possible to use Kaioken with Super Saiyan without it killing him and he uses that instead of SSJ3. He could only use it in burst though and it would take a toll on him similar to SSJ3, especially after he gets his living body back. So it would keep the plot pretty much the same, but without watering down SSJ with the existence of SSJ3, as SSJ2 would be an extension of SSJ and Super Kaioken would be SSJ augmented by Kaioken.
After that, the next logical extension would be SSJ4, probably renamed obviously. But maybe Goku realizes that there are too many drawbacks to Super Kaioken, but he’s reached the full potential of Super Saiyan, so the idea comes that perhaps a new power can be achieved by combining Super Saiyan with Oozaru. Then once achieving that, Goku has truly reached his max power as a Saiyan, so the only option left is to go for the God powers and abilities.
That seems like a natural evolution of power, where as SSJ3 feels…out of place in the grand scheme of things.
@@jeskerjames3260yeah it makes more sense for him too use kaioken with Super Saiyan
The story as a whole ending with Buu's defeat. That was an epilogue for Goku and Buu.
People make the same mistakes multiple times. But he wasn't as bad as with Cell. He wasn't cruel about it. He wasn't even that cocky, and he was that much stronger than him
There's nothing wrong with the next generation "failing". The characters did what they could at the time they could.
Piccolo failed against Freeza, Vegeta against cell ect. Goku gave the only people around a means of defending themselves.
Supreme Kai thing was on purpose. Just like how spopovich and Yamu turned out to be nobodies. And that gravity times ten guy.
They never used the terms grade in story.
The kaioken fanfiction doesn't add anything if you'll say it's going to do the same as ssj3.
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The two sagas have such distinct tones. When I watch the cell saga, I like watching the English dub with Faulconer’s soundtrack since fits it so well. Meanwhile, Kikuchi’s soundtrack fits the Buu saga so I watch it in the Spanish dub. Really like both, but there’s something whimsical about the Buu saga that makes it my favorite even with its problems
@@BigDoont246 explain
@@BigDoont246 I’ve watched the series in English, Spanish, and Japanese. The English on toonami when I was younger. Do you want me to somehow unwatch it?
I really liked the Falconer Soundtrack for the Cell Saga
@@BigDoont246best way to watch the show is original Funi dub for Android saga onwards
Cell hands down! Shoutout to you Geekdom I have been watch you since I was in college about 7-8 years!
Buu Saga holds a special place in my heart because my first ever piece of DBZ home media was a VHS tape of Fusion Saga: The Last Saiyan which had the 4 episodes of Vegito vs. Buuhan.
However, the first scene of Dragon Ball that I ever saw was on a Saturday back in the day when Toonami would air about 2-4 hours of DBZ episodes each weekend. I was channel surfing and winded up seeing 17 crushing Number 20's head. After seeing that, I WAS HOOKED!
Personally, my favorite portion of the Buu Saga was when Goku & Vegeta met on the battlefield to face Buuhan leading to their fusion into Vegito, Kid Buu blowing up earth and the final battle on the Kai planet.
When I look at both sagas as a whole, I would give it to the Cell Saga. Buu Saga just had WAY too much going on. It had A LOT and I mean A LOT of epic moments, fight sequences, signature moves, etc. What brought it down was that it just went on for WAYYYYYYYYY too long. I was in maybe 6th grade when I first got into DBZ and I know people who QUIT watching the series because no one could defeat Buu; SS3 Goku, Majin Vegeta, Ultimate Gohan, etc. the arc just kept going and going.
At least the Cell arc had a number of opponents to switch things up because Cell became the true big bad.
The Cell saga was the superior arc in DBZ. From the beginning to end, it gave us more of an urgency; there was no time wasted. It was training and fighting, and people dying in between it all. We experienced character development with most of the cast. Also, we seen them all be part of solution when it came to defeating cell. It kept us on our toes. The dramatics of the arc never settled down until the very end of it.
Yeah Cell Saga peak arc
As someone who watched the Cell Saga at the prime of my childhood I'll never be able to forget Gohan reaching SS2, embarrassing Cell, killing the Cell Jr's. It's so much more memorable. The Cell Games might be the absolute peak of anime as a genre.
The Cell Games are Peak A Tier
While the Cell Saga had numerous moments where they could have ended things before they even began, the new forms introduced weren’t quite as numerous or ultimately pointless as that of the Boo Saga where everything just boiled down to Goku again.
you clearly need to rewatch the buu saga bc it didnt boil down to goku it boiled down to the people of earth lending goku his energy 😂
@@princecheck11 Good point there, forgot that bit :p
Both of these are very iconic, but I actually prefer the Buu Saga overall. To me it just felt like it had every element of what I love about Dragon Ball. With so many different settings, great wholesome/funny and even dramatic moments and great new characters. As well as introduce some of the most iconic concepts of the whole franchise.
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For me it was the cell saga. The Buu saga was a little too much all over the place. The beggining and endings could be from enterely Different stories. The Cell saga also gave us Gohan's crowning moment.
Yeah
Where he got Goku killed?
@@damianmorningstar3150You mean Future Trunks? Goku chose to sacrifice himself. He could've just used instant transmission to come back to earth with King Kai.
@@wegoku7274what how??
how was the buu saga all over the place but the cell saga wasnt?
I prefer the Buu Saga for a number of reasons but I think the primary one is the art. The concepts are also quite evocative. I find Buu scarier than Cell.
ED: wanted to add I like the kind of throwing everything at the wall. After all the careful plans of Cell Saga seeing them go from confident and playing around to a final stand at the home of the Gods and all the stuff that happens in like 36 hours, lends an air of panic and stakes to the proceedings that I really appreciate.
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Whoa Geekdom I thought I was the only one who saw the similarities to Satan/Hercule and the biblical Satan! And to see you bring that into discussion here is just awesome! They are pretty much exactly the same!
For me its the Cell arc easily. Cell is arguable my favorite saga of Z. First of all just the feel, it was refreshing being back with an earth based story after the Namek arc which felt like if would never end. The character relevancy and interactions was huge for me. This was the only arc post saiyan where every character was relevant, or at least had a good amount of screentime. Goku was sick for a while which out some spotlight on Trunks and Vegeta, Piccolo was the main character for a bit, Gohan ended up as the top dog, Krillin played a role, Tien played a role, even Yamcha to an extent along with the rest of the supporting cast. It gave the arc a but more of a home earth Og Dragonball vibe to me. Cell as a villian along with the androids were a lot more interesting to me then Buu and Babidi, the fights (Goku/Gohan v Cell, Vegeta vs Cell, Piccolo vs 17, Tien vs Cell etc) were better, it was a more interesting story. Even the filler I found much more entertaining, like the TaoPaipai episode, and Krillin saving the family from Imperfect Cell.
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Personally i feel that the Cell saga is the better arc. And one of the many reasons for that was that the entire Z squad was involved heavily through out it.
Even though they were highly out powered Yamcha, Krillin and Tien really stepped up hugely and were determined to take on the challenges.
People often forget just how brave Yamcha was in this arc. He stayed by gokus side to defend his life.
For me personally the only reason I'm gonna choose Cell over Buu is because it's the last saga where characters like Krillin Tien and Piccolo all had major moments that played a part in the story. SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta is still my favorite fight of all time tho 💯.
Yamcha really got the short straw...
But I agree, the Cell Saga actually gave everyone a role, which is an automatic plus...
Piccolo had a great supporting role which made sense for his character.
The Android/Cell saga, and it isn’t even close.
The Cell saga was multi-layered and involved way more characters who had an opportunity to have a pivotal impact on the final outcome. It wasn’t focused one a singular protagonist and there was so many ups and downs. It was a great story with a terrific villain.
I see this in the buu saga 🤷♂️
@@maganhassan2627 I would argue that the Buu saga was negatively impacted by the lack of depth with the Buu character. The arch even seemed to be reduced to a parody at times. The Android/Cell arch was the pinnacle of Dragon Ball storytelling
@@nickolaslewis4416nah, that was the namek saga. hell I’d even say that the Saiyan saga is better than the cell saga
@@TogamiBruh I'll agree with you to degree on the Namek saga. Saiyan saga definitely was not better.
@@nickolaslewis4416 Saiyan saga kills the Cell saga so I don't know what you're on about..
The first half of the buu arc until Gohan fights Buutenks is rather excellent, it does everything right.
*It's buu saga for me.*
Classic Toriyama (OG DB) that i felt lose since saiyan saga - cell saga. Idk it's just fun for me back then despite the lacks.
It's over the place of course, since the editor seemed like gave Toriyama more freedom to end DB on that arc. The basic plot was more like current DBS. Typical Toriyama
Cell saga was more well structured. Too much in fact that felt a bit boring for me on some parts
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To me Buu saga will always be special because of the Majin Vegeta arc, that was peak DBZ storytelling imo. Of course Cell saga is really solid too. It's not possible to pick one over the other when you look at them as a whole.
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You guys should talk about that homage Gohan did with the Saiyaman suit for Android 16
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The android/cell saga is absolutely epic and peak DBZ imo but i absolutely love vegito being introduced in Buu saga
Cell Saga was the best, especially combined with the Android Saga. It was adventurous, exploring, creepy, no magic involved. Setting up everything for Perfect Cell and nobody saw it coming. Some legendary fights, Tien Vegeta Goku Gohan Android 17 vs Cell! Searching for Cell, the discovery of his spaceship, I all really liked it!
Same its Awesome
The GT rap is the best opening in any DB series ever😤
Cell Hands down. Heck I thought it was the last Saga when Kai was airing back in the day.
The cell saga was the best. Great writing character arcs.
Buu arc is the best arc to me it expanded on ki manipulation - expanded on in universe lore - solid character building and iconic moments - paved a way for irrelevant fighters to become relevant via fusion I wish we stayed in that buu saga era > Cell arc has the better plot though
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The cell arc has the better plot from future trunks perspective. Not from the z fighters pov
One of the hooks of DBZ has always been the different transformations. Honestly, in terms of creativity and design, the Buu saga had the better transformations. Goku’s Super Saiyan 3, the Fusion Dance, Meeting Vegito, Great Saiyaman and Buu’s various absorptions
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Personally, I enjoyed the Buu saga more, even though the Cell saga was great and had some better moments than the Buu saga. I honestly thought some of the Buu saga fights were better than the Cell saga fights. The Buu saga even had Goku and Vegeta finally get their rematch which was better than their first fight, but didn't have a decisive conclusion. Also, Buu was a bigger threat than Cell. Cell was a weapon created to defeat Goku, while Buu was more of a force of nature that couldn't be controlled for long and could destroy everything if the good guys couldn't stop him. Not to mention that Vegeta had a proper conclusion to his character transition from evil to good. Even Hercule was given redemption in the Buu arc. I like how Goku's search for a successor was handled better in the Buu arc than in the Cell saga, which ultimately led to everyone working together to defeat Buu. I am also glad that Goku came back to life during the Buu saga, even though his sacrifice in the Cell saga was great and his reasoning for not coming back to life made sense.
I'd argue Gohan in the cell arc had a better build up to be Goku's successor considering it was built up 2 arcs before hand with Gohan slowly but surely showing that he has the ability to take over for Gohan. Unfortunately it's his character that made Toriyama unable to fully make him the next MC
I liked the filler in both arcs. I love the filler of Yamcha and Krillin in other world and even the other world tournament. Cell arc I loved the gohan birthday and the girl named lime. It really adds to the series almost like the calm before the storm .
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Cell saga is the archetype of the son of man child to hero. Hard to beat it.
You ever had a party where you're told "pull out all the stops" and you put out the best, as you're make it up on the fly?
Cell Arc was actually that, and why it was peak Dragon Ball in Japan as it ran.
However, it burnt out Toriyama the most after too.
For me I'd say the Android Saga is better. While I LOVE the Vegeta character arc in Buu Saga and the SSJ2 fight, the Android arc hits COMPLETELY different. For starters, the MULTIPLE characters aiming to not only achieve SSJ but a higher level than that is amazing. Plus it makes you anxious to see what their SSJs would even look like at the time. Plus the fact that you have a pacifist kid for the first time being the world's only hope makes you fear for his life. Not to mention that you then see that same kid turn into like a grown man in his SSJ2 form like he's a totally different person...PERFECTLY executed 💯💯
Android/cell saga has always been my favorite db saga
I say this a lot. Buu Saga had amazing moments but they felt far and in between.
But Android/Cell saga had you invested from Goku return till the end with Cell defeat.
For me it’s the Cell Saga. But I do love the Buu saga. The Buu saga has very interesting things in that arch. Vegeta, the fusion, Goku becoming SS3. It’s great. But GOHAN man. He took it to the next level and my only gripe with the Buu saga was how they did Gohan. Ultimate is cool but he still practically did nothing in there and I’m glad they gave him shine again with Super Hero. They just gotta be consistent with him too 💯
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When I first saw Vegeta vs PuiPui on youtube I thought that was the most awesome moment in all media
I like 1 ability of both cell and buu is the absorbing power of their counter part
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Smh the faulconer opening never gets any love on this channel. It’s incredible . That guitar riff is so insane and matches the visuals perfectly.
I will forever like the Buu saga more than the Android saga. It’s a different and not a popular opinion but I’ll never change it
When you brought up Vegeta's character development I feel like you should have mentioned him getting upset when he thought Cell had killed Future Trunks
Not better than majin vegeta or his plan to finish buu.
Buu saga introduced DB to me. It's the perfect DBZ arc for me. Super Vegito, Gohan's Mystic form, SSJ3 Goku and Majin Buu becoming good was wholesome. The end of Z fight with uub was chilling too.
The Buu saga got too convoluted. It felt like they started just throwing everything at the wall!
It kept dragging on. Gohan could have defeated Buu, then Vegito could have defeated him. It went on too long.
The Cell Saga had the “Perfect” amount of plot twists, character development and big battles! The story feels well balanced.
Gohan couldn't beat buu. Was he stronger, sure. Strength ain't everything. Hence why buu > cell.
It was bigger than just getting a bigger power-up. It took EVERYTHING. Grit, power, planning, dragon balls, gods, earth etc.
@@Jiron127You’re WRONG !
I enjoyed both sagas but I feel the Cell saga was better. Even though I’m not a huge fan of Gohan, seeing Goku pass the baton to him was a great story and of course SSJ2 transformation was incredible. Stories of alternate timelines always fascinated me.
The Cell Saga was superior. The story was just as serious if not moreso than the Frieza Saga. It also gave us Piccolo vs 17! Which is one of the best fights in Dragonball Z. As well as Cells KO punch in black and white to Piccolo. But nothing ever topped Gohans Super Saiyin 2 transformation. I believe that's arguably the best moment of the entire Dragonball franchise.
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I do think Cell had the better themes and it was the best ending point the series potentially had. That said, I do like highschool Gohan as I age. I wish the early Buu saga had been a tv special or something of Gohan getting back into the swing of being a hero. Not being Goku but realizing he has a responsibility if he wants to live his dream or protect his family, friends and Videl.
I have a bit of a mind blower. What if, Gogeta and Vegito are actually beings in other universes? And all fusions. What if that's why fusion even works?
Sure. They exist, just not in the same space time as their counterparts. Virtually no different than the dragons
Favorite fights and moments happen in the Buu saga. I love gohan ssj2 transformation but I love Majin Vegeta/speech wayyy more
The android/ cell saga is my favorite arc had a lot amazing fights, awesome story and great character development. Also the z fighters trying to figure out who were the androids that were in Trunks timeline. But then learning that they were facing the wrong androids and also figuring out that it was another one they had to face off and stop him from absorbing the other androids. But the buu saga was awesome too had some great moments and awesome story. Another thing that was epic was vegeta sacrificing himself to save his family it was great but too realized it was all for nothing because majin buu came back great arc. Hard to choose but I’ll go with the android/ cell saga.
I enjoy both Arcs, great moments in both, but Androids/Cell arc was peak DBZ and my favourite saga in DB history
- SSJ2 Gohan (epic)
- Goku not being the focal point but passing the torch to Gohan
- Cell is my favourite villain of DB
- My favourite character, Piccolo getting key moments
- Future Trunks introduction
- Build up to Cell Games
- Final Kamehame Ha possible best climax in anime
Buu saga had great stuff to
- Definitely Vegeta’s character arc coming full circle
- SSJ3
- Goku V Vegeta fight
But it did drag on a lot, and it just came more about power boosts in the end. Although the final spirit bomb with Vegeta’s plan and Mr Satan playing a key role had an interesting take.
Certainly both arc above anything in Super though
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I am basing this on what ive love as a child . The 1st Arc i watched on Toonami was the buu Saga i was 7 years Old 21 years ago. And i loved the Fusions! Gotenks was my favoirte character back and when they brought vegito out!!.
Kids at my school were always talking about the buu saga. Dudes were drawing gotenks and vegito almost identical to toriyama !
Both Sagas kept changing who the final antagonist and final hero would be:
Android/Cell saga villain: First Mecha Frieza and King Cold; then Androids 19 and 20 (Dr. Gero); then Androids 17 and 18; then Imperfect Cell, Semi Perfect Cell, Perfect Cell, and finally Super Perfect Cell
Cell Saga heros: Piccolo, Trunks, Vegeta, Goku, and finally Gohan
Majin Buu arc villains: Spopovich and Yamu; Babibi and Dabura; Majin Vegeta; Fat Buu, Super Buu, Buutenks (after absorbing Piccolo and Gotenks), Buuhan (after absorbing Gohan); and finally kid Buu
Majin Buu arc heros: Vegeta, Gotenks, Ultimate Gohan, Vegito, and finally Goku
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I wonder if there is a fan edit where Fat Buu steams out Kid Buu instead of Evil Buu
The Cell saga story was better overall. Time travel, Trunks, Gohan's character arc that was getting hyped up the entire series, and the red ribbon army returning with the androids. The Z warriors training in the hyperbolic time chamber. New Super Saiyan forms and more Super Saiyans. Cell terrorizing the world, absorbing everyone, and the Cell games.
Saiyan arc filler with the pendulum room 🔥🔥🔥. I just love the original characters man
Love these discussions.. you both make great points in favour of both arcs. DBZ from beginning to end is a masterpiece imo
For me its Android/Cell saga. The emotional hits of Vegeta going SSJ, getting wrecked by 18, Cell absorbing 18 (that scene always came off very r*pey to me) and 16 dying and Gohan losing his shit for SSJ2 and finally destroying Cell was just an almost perfect story :)
We also get a good scene of a "normal" human, Tien, putting up REALLY good fight/sacrifice vs Imperfect Cell as a bonus :)
I kinda had a question about 17's death, he was alive and well in the Buu saga, but what I wanted to know is they made a big deal about Krillin needing two wishes to be transported from where Namek used to be to Earth's check in station, and then to be brought to Earth. It seems that 17 came back in single wish when King Kai's planet was blown up when he was assumed to be still trapped inside Cell when that happened. How did he just end up on Earth if he was dead at the former location of King Kai's planet? That also makes me asks how death works in the other world in general for not dead characters like Goku, King Kai (and Bubbles/Gregorry), and 17 in general as we saw them at the beginning of snake way (but not 17) the episode after the Cell arc was done
The cell versus buu saga.
They both have their moments. In the cell saga Gohan shows that at the time he was the strongest person, & in the buu saga you have the first fusion, SS3, The World martial arts tournament, Evil Vegeta, Super saiyan gotenks, Super Saiyan Gotenks 3, +more first, but I luv them all ❤
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Obviously for die hard fans I believe we’d go deeper into debate of more like saiyan saga vs android saga. 🤙🏽
Buu saga always gonna be my fav, it had so much epic shit. As a Geetz fan seein him go Majin and take it to Goku was peak DBZ, Final Atonement, SS3, fusions. For me I don’t think it’s gonna be surpassed.
This was a great video! 🌚
The Cell arc really was a perfect finish. Series should have ended there completely. The Buu arc felt like it just ruined a perfect ending for no reason.
Android +Cell Saga is quintessential DBZ for me, the meat of the whole series.
Btw i watched it multiple times before i could watch the rest od the show, lol 2000s were a different time.
I love these Dragon Ball Z sagas!
Buu saga. I've thought about this for a really long time. Buu just brought a very grim, galaxial threat. An entity that will end all of existence to where the gods would have to eventually get involved. It was a dire, desperation to end an enemy that was ultimately devilish. The reason the heroes were rambling and the next runner up kept coming up is the sense of desperation they were facing.
Androids/Cell for the same reason I named on the Freeza vs Cell saga.
When i saw the Buu saga at the same time there were other cartoons using the pink blob trope, and i thought dbz was just hoping on that train, just like how ssb and rose came out, i just saw dbs just hoping on the trendy cyan/magenta color theme thats other franchises were doing. But mt favorite part of the Buu arc is when fatbuu healed that blind kid tommy.
Hei bro do u think super can be discussed once animated compered to Z
Cell by far!!!! No questions asked!
I think the sagas individually bring different elements to the story. We are reintroduced to the Red Ribbon Army alongside Dr. Gero and the androids. We wouldn’t know about them or Goku’s virus if it weren’t for Trunks, who traveled from the future. Super Vegeta, Super Trunks, Super Saiyan 2 Gohan.
Then we have Majin Buu who was introduced as this malicious monster of destruction with The arrival of Super Saiyan 3 and fusion. ultimate Gohan. I think they both are great in their own way
yall forgot to mention the character development of Majin buu also he kills babidi & when the dog diess
To me nothing beats the Sayan and the Freeza saga. Every loss felt as a loss. And war felt like hell. In the Cell and Buu saga war felt like comedy. But that is not the discussion of today. I far prefer the Cell saga over Buu saga. It still had some of the seriousness of the previous Saga.
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Please do video on why Toriyama named him Mr. Satan
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Cell, but I love the introduction of all the Buu’s and Majin Vegeta and Gotenks
I felt like the Fusions should've been introduced in Super.
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The buu saga is fun and endearing in many ways but it also begins to break down the power scaling which is a bit frustrating. I really like the idea of dragon ball z ending after cell but I suppose it’s fun that it continued and went on to gt/super
Android/Cell saga was better overall but the Buu saga had some of the coolest moments of the franchise.
Last comment, the Writing of Boo was good, but the cell saga was a tale told since the first arch of man. Boo was a story that would continue the growth of characters and storyline. Plenty of unexpected twists. Just doesn’t hit the heart the same way.
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I loved the Buu Saga! I was kinda shocked to learn how contentious it is in the fandoms mind, yeah buu saga was a bit bloated and there was a tonal shift but I loved every moment of it,
Personally Android saga why it has horror right from the get go plus the memorable scene of Yamacha getting stabbed in the stomach one handed by Dr Gero and the place falling apart with flames that sells it also the writing and dialogue is top notch.
meh it's dragon ball so who cares about the writing and dialogue.
To me the Cell and android sagas are just one saga. And the Cell/Android saga is tied with the Saiyan, and Demon King Piccolo sagas. Those three did a perfect job of capturing the fact that this is an all out fight for the survival of earth. The way they portrayed the reactions to the unfolding situation all around the world in those three stories was just what a lot of these super powered action stories tend to miss.
The Android/Cell Saga changes it’s villains to keep the audience guessing as an engaging element.
On the other hand, the Buu Saga literally traded the main villain’s character just as we’re getting used to them- making it tedious. The villain we began with is not even the one we finish with- heck, even the final form isn’t technically the same character by the time he dies.
favotism for me buu saga is my 2nd fave dbz arc n i njoy it way more cause i love buu as vialn he felt truly evil n the 2nd half
I know it's divisive, but gohan in high school is genuinely my favorite part of the whole franchise. dragon ball does slice of life really, really well, and even in super those were the best episodes.
Goku vs Kid Buu in the manga started with Full Power SSJ3 Goku using a Full Throttle Kamehameha from close range that engulfs Kid Buu’s whole body and does zero damage to Kid Buu’s Ki level.