Mazdaspeed 3 Blows Engine On The Dyno After Making 400 WHP

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  • Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
  • Unfortunately we blew the stock engine in the Mazdaspeed 3 on the dyno. All the tuning was done by me, and many would agree that it was not overly aggressive. It's hard to say what caused the failure at this point, but we noticed knock retard values above 5 degrees in the data log right before it let go. This didn't really make sense as we were running 94 octane pump gas mixed with 3 gallons of in tank methanol. The next possibility in our minds, is that using the WOT box as a rev limiter while making this much power and generating this much heat with back to back runs, might have stressed the engines stock internals to a point of no return. We already know that the OEM pistons and connecting rods are the weak points of this engine. At this point we've sourced another used CX7 long block and are going get it built with forged connecting rods, pistons, upgraded bearings, and possibly some head work. Enjoy the video! Please like, share, and subscribe :)
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    Mods in this video:
    1. DM PCV Plate w/ Dual Vented Cans
    2. Cobb Accessport V3 (self tuned)
    3. Aeromotive 325 LPH Fuel Pump
    4. Bfg G-force Comp 2 All Seasons
    5. Stratified Guardian Angel V3
    6. Full Race Exhaust Manifold
    7. Ngk One Step Colder Plugs
    8. 6th Port Aux Fuel Injection
    9. Corksport Intake Manifold
    10. Jbr 88a Rear Motor Mount
    11. Jbr 88a Trans Motor Mount
    12. Jbr 80a Pass Motor Mount
    13. Custom Radiator Ducting
    14. Autotech HPFP Internals
    15. Eibach Lowering Springs
    16. Corksport Injector Seals
    17. Jbr Egr Block Off Plate
    18. Cpe Catless Downpipe
    19. Cfm Oil Breather Cap
    20. Jbr Raider's Air Damn
    21. MST Suzuka Wheels
    22. Koni Yellow Shocks
    23. Gen 2 Valve Cover
    24. CS 3.5 Inch Intake
    25. Cobb 3 Port Ebcs
    26. Fidanza Flywheel
    27. Bnr S4 V3 Turbo
    28. Jbr Under Route
    29. Cobb Xle Bpv
    30. AEM Gauges
    31. Cnt Catback
    32. Tr8 Fmic
    33. Wot Box

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  • @JeromyGreen
    @JeromyGreen 5 років тому +20

    Oh my god my heart broke when that happened.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      So did mine! Followed by a deep realization of "time to build" lol

  • @sentryeldefiant7569
    @sentryeldefiant7569 5 років тому +40

    Dam that sucks, on the bright side definitely more content for the channel. Just hate to see it happen this way.

  • @craigzilla100
    @craigzilla100 5 років тому +3

    Damn!! It's been a fun ride with the white speed 3.. sorry to hear, but also looking forward to seeing you guys tear it down and rebuilding.

  • @LnR4ever
    @LnR4ever 3 роки тому +6

    400 whp is pushing the stock internals to its absolute limits dayum! I'm surprised it didn't happen before this dyno

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  3 роки тому +1

      Oh yeah it definitely had a good long run lol

    • @MrToastyman900
      @MrToastyman900 2 роки тому +1

      400whp is surprisingly safe to run if you tune it right, i know people that daily 400whp stock motor cars, even one who’s managed to make 500whp on an unopened engine last quite a while

  • @wyattchilton15
    @wyattchilton15 5 років тому +1

    I'm a simple man, I see a speed 3 I hit subscribe. But I see neetronics I then hit the like button

  • @Muddysnowflake978
    @Muddysnowflake978 5 років тому

    I sorry to see you blew the motor now. It’s time to do some reach and build a beast of a motor. I hope nothing but the best for your future motor build

  • @MatrixRC
    @MatrixRC 5 років тому +1

    No one noticed earlier the black smoke from the exhuast. Clear signs something is wrong. Just my mechanical experience. But you live and learn. You start modding and eventually this is the end result.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      The black smoke is from the rich air fuel mixture and the blueish white smoke is from the turbo seal

    • @MatrixRC
      @MatrixRC 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners signs of tragedy about to happen.

  • @2011chitsazzadeha
    @2011chitsazzadeha 5 років тому +1

    Don't worry going built motor is great.

  • @BL1THE
    @BL1THE 5 років тому +1

    :( rest in peace little axela

  • @amberheardslawyerprofessor5266
    @amberheardslawyerprofessor5266 5 років тому

    Ugh so sad. Hurts i have the 04 speed3 1st gen upgraded and would still have my heart sink seeing that. Yeah way too much stress on the engine. Stock engine cant handle that much piston and connecting rod or even just getting a small nut dislodging inside the engine. Definitely will need love and care. - ASE Firestone mechanic.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      Don't u mean 2007 and up? Yeah man it was bound to happen sooner or later. Packing a fire extinguisher in the car from now on!

  • @bgbg7109
    @bgbg7109 5 років тому +1

    Its probally nothing you did.. with big turbo its not if but when!!!! Just curious why meth in tank when you ran aux fuel. Why not just e-85 mix??

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      Because we don't have E85 in the area

    • @TopiasSalakka
      @TopiasSalakka 5 років тому

      Lul E85 is a pump gas where i live

  • @Anthony-vr3um
    @Anthony-vr3um 5 років тому

    Damn all good hope you find a good deal on a block and do some diy on porting the heads and 80lb springs. If you build it yourself it's very cheap I have a thread on mso but i did before mine blew so price may vary a bit block+machine shop

  • @zignimus5334
    @zignimus5334 4 роки тому

    Lost my job with a 12 month old to support. Went bankrupt do had to buy a car. 6000$ on a mazdaspeed 6 and didnt even last 1 day..

  • @joshsmith4998
    @joshsmith4998 5 років тому

    Hey, the way I see it: Better this happens on the dyno than when you're out driving. That could be super dangerous if it happens during a street pull

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      For sure man! Packing a fire extinguisher from now on;)

  • @ibsilentops2897
    @ibsilentops2897 4 роки тому

    are you ever going to get this back together?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому

      Yes sir it's back up an running now, just need to finish editing the build video :)

  • @LikquidDutch
    @LikquidDutch 4 роки тому

    Mine has been making about 370 on e85 for about 6 years on the stock motor on a bnrs3 scary i run her hard to but I have always had this fear in the back of my mind .

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому +1

      That's great to hear, I too have been around the same power level for years, always tuning on the street with 2 gallons on in tank methanol. This was actually our first time at the dyno. I have a feeling that abusing the ignition cut rev limiter from the WOT box after almost every pull might have stretched the stock rod, causing it to sheer as soon as torque started increasing. When it let go at 4300 rpm, it was only generating 320 ft lbs of torque. This is all speculation though. It very well could have just been its time. Either way, I don't think we'll have any issues occasionally using the WOT box with the built engine :)

  • @groundhabit6408
    @groundhabit6408 5 років тому

    Torque is what killed your block ... You guys should have called it a day after hitting 350wtq numbers ... You can't push these stock blocks on higher torque or this will happen ... And if this dyno-jet wasn't calibrated correctly and read lower , you were playing with fire without even knowing it

  • @MrDeriktaylor
    @MrDeriktaylor 5 років тому

    Mine build was over 10k like 7 years ago I'm sure it's more now. Good luck

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      10k usd? What all was done?

    • @fsflip3111
      @fsflip3111 5 років тому

      10k? investment? or miles on car?

    • @lonewanderer958
      @lonewanderer958 4 роки тому +1

      I highly doubt you paid 10k To build a 3 motor 😂😂😂 what ya goin for 1000 hp? 😂😂

    • @MrDeriktaylor
      @MrDeriktaylor 4 роки тому

      10 for motor, exhaust,turbo kit,etc

    • @MrDeriktaylor
      @MrDeriktaylor 4 роки тому

      @@fsflip3111 invested

  • @dacoda6668
    @dacoda6668 2 роки тому +1

    These engines make 300 whp realibily!

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  Рік тому

      Yeah I agree 100%, especially in stock form

  • @emmanuelguerrero6598
    @emmanuelguerrero6598 5 років тому

    Can anyone help me out with my boost problem?
    I was hitting about 16 psi then 13 after about9 and at times I dont even feel the boost what should I check ?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      Email us a data log of when it happens. Also check for any boost leaks.

    • @emmanuelguerrero6598
      @emmanuelguerrero6598 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners I put a smoke machine on it and didn't really see anything. Is there certain spots of the car I should check ?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      @@emmanuelguerrero6598 Not really. It could be a lot of things. What mods do u have on the car?

    • @sav7123
      @sav7123 2 місяці тому

      Either a boost leak or injector seals

  • @matthewlucie
    @matthewlucie 5 років тому

    RIP

  • @Lordosvk
    @Lordosvk Рік тому

    What can i told you.... facepalm...

  • @MarcGismondi
    @MarcGismondi 5 років тому

    im definitely next lol

  • @daesyoung
    @daesyoung 5 років тому

    it was good before 11 timing

    • @filiplaskovski9993
      @filiplaskovski9993 5 років тому +2

      I don’t the timing caused the engine to fail it’s common for the rod to let go in the low rpm’s @400whp it was just pushed past it’s limit

    • @daesyoung
      @daesyoung 5 років тому +1

      iono mazda seems like the mufacture really good components vs honda. but gyea 400whp is a bigboy fshure. ty man!

  • @leslie7872
    @leslie7872 4 роки тому

    thats what happens when you dont buy a miata

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому

      Or when you're trying to make more power than the stock block can handle ;)

  • @mortysmith5556
    @mortysmith5556 5 років тому +10

    I know how much stress this is. But you should really document all your repairs and the build. I will be following along watching you!

  • @kamaleon20002000
    @kamaleon20002000 5 років тому +6

    Is not all about fuel air ratio... playing with timing to get more hp is always dangerous.
    Life is full of lessons... repair and go for those 400 whp.

    • @2011chitsazzadeha
      @2011chitsazzadeha 5 років тому

      This definitely wasn't a result of the minor timing increases they did, the rods were probably stressed and gonna let go anyways. 12.5deg at redline is basically 93 octane levels of timing, nevermind the in-tank methanol.

  • @pray4mysynths
    @pray4mysynths 5 років тому +4

    And I'm over here complaining about fuel pressure issues. All the best man!

  • @Sugybanks
    @Sugybanks 8 місяців тому +1

    What happened? I’m curious if the ring gap is just to small from factory on these for this kind of added power/boost

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  8 місяців тому

      We have a disassembly video of the carnage. Basically cylinder 2 connecting rod failed :(

  • @JimmieZ89
    @JimmieZ89 5 років тому +3

    Damn this really sucks! I've been following your channel for a long time now watching and learning from your builds for when I finally do my MS3. How many miles were on your stock block at this time? You were making great power and it was nice seeing the runs back to back with the slight changes you made. Hopefully you get her back on the road soon with that built engine.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      It had 154,000 kms (96,000 miles). Thanks man. We had about 10-15 minutes in between runs, but only 5 minutes between the 400 hp run, and the verification run when it blew. Can't wait to get built !

  • @kimhongsoon6081
    @kimhongsoon6081 5 років тому +3

    Solid 400WHP with torque kept low and safe. Still it blew, that's unfortunate. Keep it strong mate, hope to see more videos on rebuilt process.

  • @jasonc2948
    @jasonc2948 5 років тому +3

    Sad to see the beast blow on the Dyno. I've got a BL MPS that I blew the stock engine on, built it and loving it. Good luck with the build!

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      Thanks a lot! Wasn't expecting it to blow, but then again, do we ever?

  • @Mazdaspeedgarage
    @Mazdaspeedgarage 5 років тому +2

    Not the results you want to see when you’ve spend your money 💰 on quality parts to achieve that satisfaction but keep your head up it could have been worse just means you gotta build your motor take your time with it do it right
    And do it right the first time so that won’t happen again

  • @geraldgoodiii6993
    @geraldgoodiii6993 2 роки тому +1

    Those jagged lines are showing possible misfires
    Shouldn’t look like that

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  Рік тому

      It's very possible, we did notice some abnormal knock values in some of the pulls

  • @luistroll22
    @luistroll22 5 років тому +3

    Sorry for that, but its a new start, I'm stay here for see the progress guys

  • @bionicnightmare6546
    @bionicnightmare6546 5 років тому +2

    I turboed my Mazda 3 hatchback with the 2.3 na engine and running 8lbs boost with no time currently I see you actually got another block so I'll just build my second block and swap engines when fully built internals, I've been watching your videos alot lately as I was installing the turbo on my car after the engine is built in going to add the meth then go for a bigger turbo

    • @amberheardslawyerprofessor5266
      @amberheardslawyerprofessor5266 5 років тому

      Yeah not in the 2.3 i have an upgraded hatch speed3 even with a timing chain its still far too weak to handle that much turbo even 8 seems far out. 10? No way it wont hold and thats too big a risk on those 2.3 Ford engines. Okay fine it holds 10 lbs and ratios are all solid for awhile but then transmission could act up too much forced induction is just way too stressful and you WILL blow up the motor. WWSKD? (What Would Scotty Kilmer Do) Not this i can assure you 100% and wouldnt advise anyone.

  • @mituc
    @mituc 5 років тому +1

    Oh no...:( Well, too many consecutive runs. I'm pretty sure that what happened is the classic phenomenon of piston rings butting and piston jamming against the cylinder wall. Happened to one of my friends I was tuning for. In his case it was #1 but it's really a matter of which cylinder has the smallest ring end gap for the heat already in the piston/cylinder.
    The good news is that with a built engine and the same mods you have now ( +WMI, never leave WMI out of the game) you can shoot for 600 (even though on a street used MS3 the practically usable limit is about 500bhp and 500-520lb*ft).
    P.S.: if you were spraying (WMI) this wouldn't have happened.

  • @raquielcross5757
    @raquielcross5757 5 років тому +2

    Oh What!?!?at only 350 torque??
    I think maybe the car did too many runs in a row and needed to cool off before other triles..I m so sorry for you man that's a bummer now another load of money to rebuild it, atleast after that u d know you can easily pass 500 ponnies

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      Yeah man a build block is all this thing needs. I'm just looking to make decent jam reliably

    • @cliffordhaines6495
      @cliffordhaines6495 5 років тому +1

      Yeah I was wondering how long did he wait after each pull on it.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +2

      @@cliffordhaines6495 About 10-15 minutes in between runs. But only about 5 minutes between the 400 whp run and the vented block run lol. Definitely should have let it cool longer in between, but it goes to show that the block was ready to pop

  • @lambo5965
    @lambo5965 3 роки тому

    That car sounded unhealthy from the very first pull. They just have that weird sound when they are about to go in high rpm I've learned.

  • @paulholmes3446
    @paulholmes3446 5 років тому +3

    Hope you get it back on the road soon mate. That's just savage. Great channel

  • @CHUDHUCKER
    @CHUDHUCKER 5 років тому +1

    Buggery, that sucks. I feel yer pain, I've been there 3 times, blown engines suck (not my 2008 Mazdaspeed3 yet). Never on a dyno either, always far from home!!!
    Would be interesting to see what went wrong as it seemed to be a hauntingly similar situation like Low Speed Pre-Ignition. Lex did a good write up about it on the forum. I used to work with him many years ago (before Stratified Automotive Controls) and can't even begin tell you how super detailed he is with the work he does. I remember him bringing in a bent rod (piston still attached) to work back in 2009 as he was trying to figure out what was going on with these engines. I used to do engine teardown/machining/building and the part he brought in was quite mysterious as it didn't have any of the witness marks associated with known failure analysis, anyways, I could see that he couldn't let this slide by. So maybe a chat with him about the tune could shed some light?
    Oh, I also feel your pain on the cost as I live near Vancouver, we Canadians pay 30-40% more for this hobby as the US has all the good stuff.
    Good luck to you.

  • @pitbulltrainingandmotorcyc1658
    @pitbulltrainingandmotorcyc1658 5 років тому

    Well that fucking sucks I was wanting to turn up the boost myself but I’m thinking I’ll leave her at stage one for now

  • @backroadboosters4017
    @backroadboosters4017 4 роки тому +1

    These motors don’t like to hold more than 350ft lbs of torque. That was highly likely the failure point; the rodssss

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому

      That's exactly what happened, the cylinder 2 rod sheared causing some serious damage. We have a teardown video showing the carnage

  • @PH-x
    @PH-x 4 роки тому

    Howmuch was it at the crank I only as cause a buddy of mine just brought one completely stock an broke his cv doing launches his butt dyno he told me was about 400nat the wheel but tis completely stock one cat has been removed an that's with a busted cv so I'm fallen it be from my buddy that is , be interesting to find out as his gauge only once read 18 but digital outputs from the obd2 onto my phone was only like 12-14ish psi would drop off above 6500rpm so it's fair to say tis was only about 250ish right? I recorded all of it on my phone an it had funky timing advancing never below 6.5 positive advance on the timing but it would spike up an down rapidly lol an he said he only uses half throttle but I was with him that sh3t was foot flat befor quarter throttle lmfao this just proves it man

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому

      If he's completely stock he won't be making more than 240 whp, but then again, numbers can vary. The only way to really know what his car is putting down at the wheels is to take the car to a dyno, and even then, all dyno's read differently

  • @seanrogers2794
    @seanrogers2794 5 років тому

    Something ain't right I made 350 385 to the wheels on pump gas tuners suck

  • @colinslager
    @colinslager 2 роки тому +1

    How much power did it make at the crank?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  2 роки тому +1

      If we look at what it made at the wheels, we can add about 10-15%

  • @anthonycamillos3719
    @anthonycamillos3719 4 роки тому +1

    Just thought I'd point out there probably wasn't much wrong except the stock internals only hold around 370hp at the wheels "safely". Looking forward to following your build!

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah and even with a conservative torque curve, anything can happen

  • @geraldgoodiii6993
    @geraldgoodiii6993 2 роки тому

    Damn .. u guys run mad low timing compared to us in the KDM land
    19-21* is around what most run
    Some guys talk about 27-28* .. I’m like uhhh 😬

  • @FocusedHands
    @FocusedHands 3 роки тому +1

    Dang that was crazy!!! Good HP though!

  • @geraldgoodiii6993
    @geraldgoodiii6993 2 роки тому

    Good god so hard to watch. When I went on dyno to see what power I made I was holding my breath each oull .. so many nightmsre stories about dynos and vids of blown up motors

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  Рік тому

      Yeah I definitely didn't expect my first dyno experience to involve my engine blowing haha

  • @breakfasteatre
    @breakfasteatre 5 років тому +1

    It felt those tires on the car and commited suicide. Good luck with the build and send me a DM if you want a hand pulling the motor or putting it back in. I've done it multiple times

  • @ecsniping6850
    @ecsniping6850 5 років тому +4

    Every speed owners nightmare

  • @coltonobriant6307
    @coltonobriant6307 4 роки тому +1

    Is there a while thing of not flooring it under 3k? Maybe tomucg torque, idk just a guess from what i heard at a local meet i went too

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому +1

      When tuning you want to start a pull anywhere from 2500-3000 rpm to dial in as much of the usable powerband as possible. In the early days it wasn't recommended to floor it below 3000 rpm in 6th gear due to more load on the engine for a longer period of time. Nowadays the do's and dont's have been figured out, and the ability to tune the ecu to limit torque output below 3000 rpm has greatly helped to reduce engine failures. That being said, running a safe tune, with quality fuel is the most important thing. Personally whenever I am in 6th gear, I never floor it below 3k rpm ;)

    • @alexshoneya
      @alexshoneya 3 роки тому

      @@WannabeTuners I dont wot below 3k at any gears...

  • @btshader
    @btshader 5 років тому +2

    is it just me or does the engine have a funny sound on the last run?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      In the data log it was pulling over 5 degrees of timing for several cells right before it blew. We're not sure if it was just noise from a stressed component, or if it actually was detonating (which doesn't seem feasible as it was running 94 octane with 3 gallons of in tank methanol)

    • @btshader
      @btshader 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners could be due to the noise from a stressed component, keen to see what it looks like when u open it, i built my motor like 4 months ago and have to say u will enjoy doing it, stay positive and good luck bud!

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      @@btshader Thanks man! I take it u got everything machined at a shop, and then assembled it yourself?

    • @byteoncomputerservices8054
      @byteoncomputerservices8054 5 років тому

      That sounded like LSPI. Not uncommon in DI engines unfortunately.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      @@byteoncomputerservices8054 It blew at 4300 rpm generating only 320 ft lbs of torque based on the dyno graph. It was running 94 octane with 3 gallons of in tank methanol, so pre ignition and detonation should not have been an issue. But, anything is possible. That dip in power that u could hear was over 5 degrees of timing being pulled right before it let go. Wether it was knocking, pre igniting, or just noisy from a stressed component, taking it apart should be pretty interesting, and hopefully we can get a clearer idea of how it failed :)

  • @nerygarcia978
    @nerygarcia978 5 років тому

    Is the cx7 engine the exact same engine in our cars ? Btw Sorry to here what happen bro , your speed 3 was one of my favorite out there . I know you’ll come back stronger and faster lol!!!

  • @pitbulltrainingandmotorcyc1658
    @pitbulltrainingandmotorcyc1658 5 років тому

    How long did she last after the timing chain was done I’ve been fallowing your Chanel I’ve got an 06 ms6 I just did timing chain motor mounts cork sport fuel line wheel bearing bov optima battery I take and access port I’m aiming for reliability over power tho god I hope that she lasts i hope u build a new motor would love details on where to get one just Incase

  • @linchester8464
    @linchester8464 5 років тому

    I not very experienced with MazdaSpeed3 engines but the Mustang Ecoboost 2.3L block shares some designs with the MazdaSpeed3 block aka the Mazda L engine
    looking up similar Mazda Zoom Zoom Boom and the Ecoboom situation
    putting aggressive boost levels combine with advance ignition timings is a recipe for disaster
    www.ozmpsclub.com/forum/general-mps-mazdaspeed-discussion/12879-how-get-400whp-your-speed-3-practical-way.html
    www.mazdaspeedforums.org/forum/f106/bad-news-forzda-1-blew-up-bent-77027/
    www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123805882-Bent-Rod
    mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/35750/timing-chain-jumped-probably-bent-a-piston-is-my-engine-worth-fixing
    it looks like there was knocking on the final run when the engine was really hot and it happened during the up stroke cycle and the con-rod/s just bent and snap under the high boost and detonation
    the bent/broken rods basically hit the sides of the cylinder and blew that chunk of the block and the rest of the components
    but def a engine tear down will reveal the damages and the cause of the failure.
    This is my assumption at this point based on my past experiences with blown Evo 4G63

    • @smtyson1650
      @smtyson1650 5 років тому

      The engine did sounded funny on that last run,right before the motor blew

  • @chrismullin3986
    @chrismullin3986 3 роки тому

    They always blow up, even starndard, what was mazda thinking?? They need stronger internals, then we are talking some serious power!

  • @nwbklr
    @nwbklr 5 років тому

    Can only get away with this nonsense with an Evo. Lol. Hate to say it since I drive an STi. But dem da breaks.

  • @Forbidden.s3
    @Forbidden.s3 5 років тому +1

    Wont see that happen on a stage 3 2.0tsi 😂

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      2.0 TSI's in stock form have proven to be pretty stout ;)

    • @Forbidden.s3
      @Forbidden.s3 5 років тому

      Wannabe Tuners we have a guy out here in vegas with a mk6 gti pushing over 400hp on 91 stock internals and 500hp on 91 with water meth with all stock internals with a gtx2867 soooo idk bout that.

  • @Mazdaspeedgarage
    @Mazdaspeedgarage 5 років тому +1

    Another option you could go is a drop in ready long block from corksport or speed performance. I would go for stage 2 which supports 700++hp
    Just slap all your parts and your good to go

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      That is an option too! I'm just not sure if getting it done locally would be less expensive or not

    • @Mazdaspeedgarage
      @Mazdaspeedgarage 5 років тому +1

      Wannabe Tuners it’s not cheap to build a motor but it’s not easy either that’s why you gotta go to the right ppl who have been doing it for long time and who knows these cars
      Because you don’t want to have a built motor that wasn’t done right I’ve seen it happen

    • @raquielcross5757
      @raquielcross5757 5 років тому +1

      That's right better spend a bit more now that you re in this situation and get a safe reliable build than risk your money on a cheaper option

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      @@Mazdaspeedgarage Thanks for the advice :)

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      @@raquielcross5757 I know a reputable engine builder in the area called Competition Automotive. They've been around for over 40 years. I'll probably get an estimate from them first and go from there ;)

  • @cliffscholes5966
    @cliffscholes5966 5 років тому

    This was a hard watch, knowing it was going to blow. I do think though that meth mix in the fuel tank is a very bad idea. And very unpredictable. And I think this is why you ha e a massive knock event, and blow a rod out the side. Fit a meth kit buddy. Much safer. I run 436bhp on stock block with a devilsown progressive meth kit. So my boost air temps are kept in check. I run 99ron (or octain as you lot call it) with meth kicking in at 15psi, and has full spray at 20psi. Hope this helps for the future build buddy.

  • @angelavila2128
    @angelavila2128 3 роки тому

    How many kms were on your car when you installed the bnr s4? Do you think your engine would have lived longer if you stayed around 350-370 hp range along with torque? I’m about to install a bnr s4 on mine as well but I’m a paranoid fuck.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  3 роки тому

      The car had about 120,000 kms on it when we installed the BNR S4. I had been tuning the car since then using virtual dyno to estimate power. I found that virtual dyno read lower than the actual dyno that we went to, so if we go off of actual dyno numbers in comparison to VD numbers, up until it blew up on the dyno at 160,000 kms, the car was probably making anywhere from 350-400 whp depending on what tune I was running and how cold it was outside. Some theories I have that caused the engine to blow are that we were doing too many back to back pulls, the wot box acting as an ignition cut rev limiter (rather than the ECU's fuel injector cut) may have stressed the rods, or it was just it's time to blow. It's hard to say when these stock engines will let go, but the best thing to do is run an alcohol mix to prevent detonation, and run a safe consistent tune (not to say I wasn't lol)

  • @adamswartz7670
    @adamswartz7670 5 років тому

    So sorry man. That sucks, kinda sounded like you windowed your block by sending a rod.

  • @journalsofajackass6195
    @journalsofajackass6195 5 років тому +1

    Sell me that guardian angel. Lol

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      I'm definitely gonna need it when we drop a built engine into this thing ;)

  • @gimmethecarkeys
    @gimmethecarkeys 5 років тому

    Sucks brother... mine just cracked a ringland. Didnt explode like yours... judging by yours you will have to find a decent long block and rebuild it. Prob hit the valvtrain when it went boom boom.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      Yeah dude consider yourself lucky. Take it easy on it and build her asap. I've already sourced a used running CX7 engine ;)

    • @gimmethecarkeys
      @gimmethecarkeys 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners mine is off at overspeed motorsports having the bottom end built. CNC ported head and valve springs done. Cant wait to see the upcoming content on yours!

  • @jimmytran5328
    @jimmytran5328 5 років тому

    Why would you run it that many times only 10-15 minutes in between and then 5 minutes between the 400hp.... like dam... what a waste...

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      It's part of the game, better it happened here than on the street!

  • @ivanborruel
    @ivanborruel 3 роки тому

    The cx7 turbo engine and the heads are the same as the mazdaspeed 3 1st Gen?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  3 роки тому

      Yep the cx7 engines are the same in the gen 1's

    • @ivanborruel
      @ivanborruel 3 роки тому

      @@WannabeTuners so that mean if my car is moddded, and I blew my engine off, I just bought a used cx7 turbo engine and swap it and thats it?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  3 роки тому

      @@ivanborruel Well the turbo in the cx7 is slightly smaller, so you'd want to swap over the turbo from the speed 3. You'll also need to swap over the flywheel and clutch onto the cx7 engine by removing the flex plate and install a pilot bearing into the crankshaft.

  • @newground1341
    @newground1341 4 роки тому

    Soooo You found another rig; 2nd gen’?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому

      Haha we built another engine with forged pistons and rods

    • @newground1341
      @newground1341 4 роки тому

      Fuck! When did you...did you shoot the build?

  • @trey369
    @trey369 5 років тому

    Nooo monicaaa..

  • @TBPony
    @TBPony 5 років тому

    Get one of those corksport built crate engines, they already have everything done for you for 500 plus, I have the same car with the same color so this was hard to watch

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      Thanks man, although I'm picking up a used running cx7 long block tomorrow which will be getting the treatment ;)

  • @RedClutch22_
    @RedClutch22_ 5 років тому +1

    Dude it’s all good ! You took it pretty cool I was sooo piss when I blew mines ! Now watch this mazdaspeed Reach to the next level

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      I'm just lucky I have another car to drive

    • @RedClutch22_
      @RedClutch22_ 5 років тому +1

      Lol my parents wanted to kill me ... I had no car for 6 months! ...

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +2

      @@RedClutch22_ Oh man, it's crazy how we don't realize what we have until it's gone

    • @RedClutch22_
      @RedClutch22_ 5 років тому

      Dude Facts bro

    • @RedClutch22_
      @RedClutch22_ 5 років тому +1

      You can tell when the car was going into Boost the motor just took a Shit ... no fucks given ... you would think at high RPM it will blow at that moment but “GOING into boost” damn

  • @dylanthomas9777
    @dylanthomas9777 5 років тому

    Why was the timing increased when you weren't making any large gains until it blew at 12.5?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      According to the dyno graphs, from 9.5 to 12.5 degrees at 6700 rpm, it was generating about 10 whp more per degree at the same boost pressure!

  • @mazdaspeedg2380
    @mazdaspeedg2380 5 років тому

    Damn that sucks reason why I’m always scare to be on the dyno I’m making a lot less tho at 367whp

    • @MannyFresh1x
      @MannyFresh1x 5 років тому

      You always get that "dont blow up" feeling on the dyno

  • @bananahammock789
    @bananahammock789 5 років тому +1

    This made me cry.

  • @TheOriginalPancakeHou5e
    @TheOriginalPancakeHou5e 5 років тому

    Just watching this, that’s sucks. These engines are hit and miss when pushing the limits. Mine made 520whp before it let go on stock rods and pistons. Bows the time to build so you can go further safely

    • @TheOriginalPancakeHou5e
      @TheOriginalPancakeHou5e 5 років тому

      I noticed you guys were throwing more timing at it instead of boost. Is there a reason why? I know most tuners prefer to add boost vs timing as timing creates more heat which of course cyl 3 is always producing more than any other. That’s what let go on mine

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      @@TheOriginalPancakeHou5e Yeah man it should be good when she's built and ready for action. When I tune I always dial in my boost and fuel curve first, and increase timing last. It's pretty much a balancing act between timing and boost, and too much of either will put more stress on the engine in general. I didn't want to run too much boost as I didn't want to cause inefficiency in the engines ability to breathe. I feel it runs better at 22 psi instead of 24 psi with these upgraded manifolds. We hear of people pushing big power on stock blocks, but that does not come without risk. I'd consider someone making 520 whp on a stock bottom end for a while quite lucky lol

  • @spillybuilt7491
    @spillybuilt7491 5 років тому +1

    What rpm was the tuner doing pulls from??

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      2500 rpm to 6700 rpm where the WOT box limits the revs through ignition cut, as opposed to the OEM fuel injector cut rev limiter

    • @spillybuilt7491
      @spillybuilt7491 5 років тому

      Stock blocks should really not do pulls under 3k

    • @CarlosGonzalez-vi9qv
      @CarlosGonzalez-vi9qv 5 років тому

      @@spillybuilt7491 All the tuners ask to go WOT after 2500 for the datalogs in 4th gear soo....

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      @@spillybuilt7491 That's what is recommend, but for tuning purposes most if not all tuners will start a dyno pull around 2500 rpm in order to tune that area of the rpm range

    • @spillybuilt7491
      @spillybuilt7491 5 років тому

      It was bound to happen at those power levels regardless. Best of luck on the rebuild!

  • @bryanmunoz4005
    @bryanmunoz4005 5 років тому

    Where are you located?

  • @ask4boost
    @ask4boost 5 років тому

    Worst feeling ever I'm sure.. but I cant wait see the process of building it 🤙🏽

  • @HoUsEoFcAtS78
    @HoUsEoFcAtS78 5 років тому

    This is what happens to wannabe tuners.

  • @br0leg274
    @br0leg274 5 років тому

    Hey, stock engine in Germany dies ~350hp at 20.xxx, direct or over time. Due to the high speed interstates we can see where the durability is.

  • @Mazdaspeedgarage
    @Mazdaspeedgarage 5 років тому

    I’ve had bolt installed on the past on my speed3 and it was fun but now I have my speed6 I’m going the different route spend the money on a built long block that supports the hp I need

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      Yea and pack a fire extinguisher just in case

  • @sq33qs
    @sq33qs 5 років тому

    All the best with fixing the car, GL.

  • @geenuz4fam
    @geenuz4fam 5 років тому

    That sucks. My accord blew up on a dyno too. The price to pay when u wanna go fast. I learned that its not a good idea to wanna make your daily a race car. Goodluck with whatever you decide to do.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      Thanks man! I'm picking up a used running long block today and am going to upgrade rods, pistons, and bearings

    • @geenuz4fam
      @geenuz4fam 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners 💪👍👍

  • @BigBoy-ub3uc
    @BigBoy-ub3uc 4 роки тому

    What caused it?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому

      I'm not exactly sure what caused it, although I'm thinking that the WOT box's abrupt ignition cut rev limiter feature may have stretched or fractured the cylinder 2 connecting rod, causing to break as soon as mid range torque was generated. With the stock block and a bigger turbo, it's not if it will blow, but when :) It's better to build it while it's still in one piece so you don't have to pay for another engine.

  • @I_Am_SoSo
    @I_Am_SoSo 5 років тому

    love them gen1. i have one also but i keep on getting misfire, rough idle and constantly dealing with crankshaft sensor. i replaced it but a week later it gives me the code again. any advice brother?

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      Try swapping coil packs to see if the misfire transfers to another cylinder. Also check crank sensor connections and related wiring for damage or shorts.

    • @I_Am_SoSo
      @I_Am_SoSo 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners the dealer swapped the motor with another replacemt and the fixed all the problems but i keep getting the same symptoms. i changed the coil packs so im thinking its the wires. i replace the maf sensor already also and spark plugs. 113k miles 😭

  • @blandry5014
    @blandry5014 5 років тому

    Any update buddy? I feel bad for you. Don't know what i would do if that happen to my speed3. hope to see that speed3 up and running soon. i like all your videos, keep on the good job !

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      Thanks a lot man! Right now the spare engine has been torn down and is awaiting it's built destiny at the machine shop. Tbh I'm glad it happened here rather than on the street.

    • @blandry5014
      @blandry5014 5 років тому +1

      it never fun when it happen but like you said better on the dyno then in the middle of downtown traffic or on the highway. Glad to hear that the engine is at the shop will be waiting for more videos.

  • @acu98mev
    @acu98mev 5 років тому

    hey i just picked up a speed3 im from hamilton area what kinda km did yours have when she poped

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      It had just under 160,000 km's

    • @acu98mev
      @acu98mev 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners dang mines got 376xxx

  • @muhsped3841
    @muhsped3841 5 років тому

    Can yall film the engine building process.

  • @alexdafaatty
    @alexdafaatty 5 років тому

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @Ratcher.
    @Ratcher. 5 років тому

    mine went out while coming home at night on the highway whole car was in flames and light the whole highway like it was day got stuck at 3k rpms like it was redlining i have no idea where rod 3 went

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      Oh man sorry to hear, did the whole car burn down?

    • @Ratcher.
      @Ratcher. 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners no I had 2 extinguishers in the car and had to use both but i saved it haven't looked over the whole wiring harness the bottom of the car is crispy though lol. Good luck with yours though I will say don't let the car sit to long with out progress like i did after 2 years you will lose motivation sooo fast you'd wish it did burn to the ground.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      @@Ratcher. Haha alright man thanks for the advice;)

  • @SpiffyDay
    @SpiffyDay 5 років тому

    I’m surprised after adding 3 degrees of timing the tuner still added another full degree... sorry it blew.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      I was the tuner! It's all good man, there's always risk involved when making this much power with a stock block

    • @SpiffyDay
      @SpiffyDay 5 років тому

      Wannabe Tuners of course!! Always a risk. That’s name of the game! Excited to see it back up and running hopefully soon

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      @@SpiffyDay Absolutely! We picked up a used running cx7 long block not long ago. Let the fun begin!

    • @2011chitsazzadeha
      @2011chitsazzadeha 5 років тому

      The timing was really conservative, realistically most speeds can run another 5-6degrees of timing on an ethanol mixture before getting close to the knock threshold.

  • @coltonobriant6307
    @coltonobriant6307 4 роки тому

    Whole*

  • @OGtrushalpatel
    @OGtrushalpatel 4 роки тому

    Blow up is at 6:03

  • @OGtrushalpatel
    @OGtrushalpatel 4 роки тому

    Blow up is at 6:03

  • @chrisvasquez3703
    @chrisvasquez3703 5 років тому

    My buddy just made 500whp @ 36psi. Sorry bout the speed guys /:

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      Nice! Thanks, the car will be back up and running soon :)

    • @2011chitsazzadeha
      @2011chitsazzadeha 5 років тому

      Your friend must be running an ATP hotside to need that much boost for 500whp lol.

  • @boostindub
    @boostindub 4 роки тому

    Dam sucks man!

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  4 роки тому

      Yeah it was a surreal experience, but we're getting a built motor now, so it'll be solid ;)

    • @boostindub
      @boostindub 4 роки тому

      @@WannabeTuners heck ya!

  • @sbscars
    @sbscars 5 років тому

    Hopefully I'm not next to ZZB. I'm just down the road from you guys, so I hope it's not contagious.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому +1

      I really do wonder if the WOT box had something to do with it

    • @sbscars
      @sbscars 5 років тому +1

      @@WannabeTuners funny enough the guy I bought my sway bars off of ZZB at Neetronics as well. Only with a GTX3071 and a spike of 32ish psi. Made around 500 when it popped though (or so I was told), he was from Milton and also drove a white gen juan.

    • @WannabeTuners
      @WannabeTuners  5 років тому

      @@sbscars Oh damn what did he have done to the car? Stock block?

    • @sbscars
      @sbscars 5 років тому

      @@WannabeTuners Yep, stock block. Supporting mods from what I can remember were:
      -Sure Motorsports turbo header (Which I bought off him)
      -ATP Turbo GTX3071R externally gated to a 38mm or 44mm Tial (don't remember the exact size)
      -3" catless turbo back
      -TR8 FMIC w/ CX racing piping
      -CPE injector seals
      -Aux fueling w/ split second controller
      -3.5" intake
      -unsure what intake manifold he was using because it was already sold when i went to pick up the sway bars and turbo header.
      His name was Imran if i remember correctly, his ad was on the facebook market place back in March 2019 when I met up with him. Super nice guy.

  • @newground1341
    @newground1341 4 роки тому

    Jeeze man, it’s “never enough”

  • @jeffreygonzalez8544
    @jeffreygonzalez8544 5 років тому

    I watched your video yesterday and I was like dam that sucks. Now on my way to work today I got rod knock bad. I’m in the same boat you are now