Even intelligent lions fans know Stafford is a better qb. We love Goff and his fit within this new offense, but Stafford has always been borderline elite.
Any fan who roots for the player and not the laundry knows. I wished goff all the luck in the world when he was traded and genuinely happy for him but you can't tell me staff didn't outplay him in that WC game by a mile
That's a weird game to cite as Staff outplaying Goff. They were both equally instrumental in keeping their teams alive until the 4th. Even the stats from that game prove it.
@@je9950 who cares about stats? Outside of the two scripted drives at the beginning of the game and the one after the half, Goff was efficient but pedestrian. Stafford was putting the ball in keyholes and had several highlight plays. It was the difference between a well oiled offense vs a QB putting the team on his back
Florio learned at a young age that you can’t get through a take without saying something negative about whoever it is you’re talking about. He has Napolean complex and thus needs to yell all the time. Chris- you don’t need him.
He deserves a raise no doubt. To ensure his longevity the Rams are heavily investing in the run game. I'm sure Stafford had fun handing the ball off to Kyren Williams last year. Takes away a lot of the pressure and he can just go out there and sling it on play action.
Stafoord is old and injury prone and probably doesbt have many years left. Guy made so muvh miney already. This is ridiculous for him to pull this now and become a diva. Feels like rams were closing in on being a contender abd he is doing this crap now
Its a complete joke how these guys are talking as if that’s how stafford is thinking. They want nothing more than to create a narrative that has nothing to do with reality. The rams already gave stafford n extension and he’s sitting on 2 years left with no guaranteed money. They’ve showed stafford nothing but respect and will continue to do right by him. It’s been talked about year in and year out on account of injuries and how he feels moving forward. Florio and sims gotta be the biggest clowns in the analyst game. Ask Aaron Donald how they treated him not stl Louis. Who gives 2 💩about St. Louis they were never going to be there forever. Get over it
Florio Foreal is a paid hater this dude hates the rams organization with a passion like bro go do something with yourself but talking football ain’t it 💯
Seattle, Tennessee or Dallas off the top of my head after the season is over. Stafford grew up in Texas and might take cheaper than Dak’s 59.4 million dollars this season to retire in his hometown.
If Patrick Mahomes is not making noise about his salary no other QB should. I mean look at all those overpaid QBs that can't get things done year in year out.
Mahomes deal is not what it seems they move money around and play accounting tricks with his deal so it looks like he is the 10th highest paid QB on the surface but he is getting paid more inline with Burrow at $55 million a year.
Didn't the whole of the media, and talking heads, say goff's contract with the Rams was ridiculous! . Now it's pay everyone early! Good god you guys are just click bait. Mike, you have a problem. Chris at least you have a balanced show with amhed. Sometimes you have to move away from your friends because they start to drag you down.
Stafford sucks. He’s good, not great, and if not for Tart dropping an INT in the NFC Championship, he would never have gotten that Super Bowl. It was an awful throw right to a defender. That’s Stafford. He’s a “gunslinger” which often creates more problems than it solves.
Goff is better than Stafford. Stafford is old and makes too many dumb decisions. He was objectively worse in the playoff game and has never won a playoff game except one magic year
Detroit is the hot team now he should be paid more than Stafford , let him get the rams winning again and then maybe alittle more money the rams messed up trading. Period
Totally different situations between Goff and Stafford. First off, Stafford is in year two of a four-year extension he got after the SB. Secondly, Goff was due for a new contract so he got what he got. It’s a timing thing. Is Stafford worth it? Yes. Will the Rams take care of him? Yes.
If Stafford wants a fully guaranteed deal they should guarantee those remaining 2 years but no extension. I think Stafford is going to want a raise, an extension, and more guaranteed money which the Rams just should not do. Why extend him when the 36 year old QB probably only has 2 years at peak performance.
They’re actually pretty identical…. Biggest difference is games played goff has played in like 7 or 8 more games, Stafford does have more ints tho, but he also won a SB so u gotta give that to him
@@alexanderabrew1470 I mean he’s gotten better, the guy he is now isn’t the one the rams got rid of. I’m not gonna ignore how terrible he was his first year in Detroit either. He needs a good team a lot of QB’s do. He was good with us when we were loaded he’s good now cuz the lions are talented. He’s an elite game manager ( this term has a negative connotation, but I personally see it as a guy who doesn’t play hero ball and play smart Brady was a game manager) but the second there pressure, he’s statistically one of the worst if not thee worst QB’s in the NFL. All QB’s suck under pressure but when ur one of the worst ur jus prone to stupid mistakes.
Stafford 2023: Record 9-6, 0-1 in playoffs; missed 2 games. 62.6% completion %, 3,965 yards passing, 24 TD's and 11 picks. Goff 2023 Record 12-5 regular season; 2-1 in playoffs. 67.3% completion %, 4,575 yards passing, 30 TD's and 12 picks. Stafford 2022: Record 3-6, missed 8 games due to injury. 68% completion %, 2,087 yards passing, 10 TD's and 8 picks. Goff 2022: Record 9-8. 65.1 completion %, 4,438 yards passing, 29 TD's and 7 picks. Goff's numbers are overall better than Stafford's last season. He doesn't miss games due to injury like Stafford does, and he's younger. Sorry, Simms, you're wrong...again.
I know, everyone is playing this game saying "Oh, well, Goff got us a playoff win...so...duh..." when it's really not that cut and dry. Goff also was the QB in the LOWEST scoring SB by any offense in NFL history. Goff is as nice guy but he's not a stud, he's not taking ownership, he's a bit player and he's proven his ceiling. Stafford is WAY above Goff and any football expert would say so, assuming their not one of these "woke" commie activists, like Florio.
No guaranteed money anymore! To anyone! You play you get paid! You don't you won't! That's how i would approach this if i was rams! Remember Todd Gurley? He cost millions even after he left! You would think the rams would learn from that!😮
That was the most stafford statline I’ve seen since he was with my lions😂 guys don’t forget we went 11-5 in 2014-15 and then went like 4-12 and then 6-10 for like 3 years after the ‘15 season lol
Hey, where did your defenses rank in all that time? Why can someone lead the league in TD's and yards and the team STILL LOSE? It's almost like the Lions made a HABIT or wasting HOF talent and never surrounding it with the complete team to win. I think BARRY SANDERS and CALVIN JOHNSON said it best, the Lions are not about trying to WIN.
@@yahcrack bro where do you spot arrogance? I spent 11 years watching the man destroy his body for the org. They showed a Matthew stafford stat and you’re mad about it? Why tf weren’t you mad when the media kept on with the 5-46 record vs teams over .500? Why weren’t you mad at the Matt Paddford jokes? (Stat padding) you should truly just read and move tf on. You have no idea what it was like to watch his talent be wasted & watch him give games away with stupid picks that should’ve just been a punt. But hey , we are arrogant when he’s the one who said he’s the bad guy coming to town to rip our hearts out😂😂 Foh don’t mention me again
@@TheCountofToulouse in 2014 the 11-5 year we had the 2nd best defense. Overall. We got bounced in the wildcard. And watch all of you suddenly agree that we/he got screwed in that game💀💀💀
@@TheCountofToulouse and then ask yourself during his entire tenure here. There’s an accumulated 8 minute video of HIS teams LOSING on GAME winning TOUCHDOWNS by STAFFORD, that got taken away🤔 bro was just having a horrible time here. Wonder why that changed when Goff got here🤔
THAT STAFFORD WAS A WIN FOR THE RAMS BUT IT’S STARTING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY. HE’S GETTING OLDER WHILE THE LIONS FUTURE IS JUST GETTING STARTED. IF THE LIONS WIN A SUPER BOWL, THEY WON THE TRADE EVEN WITH THE RAMS WINNING ONE. WHO’S THE RAMS QB AFTER STAFFORD?
Yeah he is gonna want more than Goff got. He's deserves it but Rams gotta commit too protection and more protection $$$. Matt is in his last few seasons physically and he is one or 2 bad hits away from a hand,thumb and shoulder injury that has sidelined him for stretches in seasons past. The guy is Worth it but I'm not sure he has 4 seasons left in his tank honestly.
Stafford has never missed a serious payday since draft day with mixed results overall. He’s paid fine considering he is super wealthy already and depends heavily on Snead to give him a stacked team.
Mixed results? Why. If Goff is the QB for the Rams, they DO NOT even GET to the Super Bowl and even if they DID, they LOSE it. Goff cannot throw a NO look pass with the game on the line and the team is down to backups and ONE good WR to WIN a title. Goff is the king of HOE HUM, the master of "oh well". Stafford WANTS to win, Goff acts like it's something that just happens sometimes.
Everybody LOVES this guy now! He’s one of the luckiest QBs in NFL history!! He should be sending Tartt a monthly stipend for dropping one of the easiest INTs in recent hstory!!!
Rams should have kept Carson Wentz....if Stafford walked....Wentz could easily take over..but you say, Wentz was bounced from team to team...so was Baker Mayfield...now look at Baker.....Wentz is bigger, stronger with a stronger arm.....
Florio has never had correct info on the Rams lol
Mike doesn't have correct info on any teams. If I need Accident lawyer I'll definitely listen to mike😂😂😂😂
The most underrated appreciated QB of his generation
FACTS
Lions fans and real heady football fans know. Dude is like a piece of iron.
i hate how much he is disrespected
he is so so good to get this much hate
@@theroderboyz3637 he was top 5 QB last season I think. Hall of famer too
Lions fans heard for years how he is a 2nd tier qb
Even intelligent lions fans know Stafford is a better qb. We love Goff and his fit within this new offense, but Stafford has always been borderline elite.
Any fan who roots for the player and not the laundry knows. I wished goff all the luck in the world when he was traded and genuinely happy for him but you can't tell me staff didn't outplay him in that WC game by a mile
That's a weird game to cite as Staff outplaying Goff. They were both equally instrumental in keeping their teams alive until the 4th. Even the stats from that game prove it.
@@je9950 who cares about stats? Outside of the two scripted drives at the beginning of the game and the one after the half, Goff was efficient but pedestrian. Stafford was putting the ball in keyholes and had several highlight plays. It was the difference between a well oiled offense vs a QB putting the team on his back
@@cap2205are you some kind of weirdo? I was defending Stafford just a weird game to defend.
There is absolutelly no problem between Stafford and Rams. He will retire a Ram and he will go into hof as a Ram
Stafford has been consistently showing up in OTAs. This mf doesn’t know anything
Hey Florio quit yelling.
Stafford has had some bad injuries. He is good but the injuries have been severe. He is close to retirement.
Stafford is injury prone ... only reason they haven't paid him ... can't pay him more than 2 years guaranteed tooooo risky ...
Florio learned at a young age that you can’t get through a take without saying something negative about whoever it is you’re talking about. He has Napolean complex and thus needs to yell all the time. Chris- you don’t need him.
He deserves a raise no doubt. To ensure his longevity the Rams are heavily investing in the run game. I'm sure Stafford had fun handing the ball off to Kyren Williams last year. Takes away a lot of the pressure and he can just go out there and sling it on play action.
Florio was definitely dropped on his head a lot growing up.
Rams are very dangerous this year.
im trying to save up all the money i can to bet on them against the Lions, its gonna be a smoke show
5,000 for 12,000 sounds diabolical
Stafoord is old and injury prone and probably doesbt have many years left. Guy made so muvh miney already. This is ridiculous for him to pull this now and become a diva. Feels like rams were closing in on being a contender abd he is doing this crap now
GO RAMS!!!
I am gonna be over warming up my howlitzer canon of an arm in case LA needs me. Put me in Coach McVay cause u cute!!
Mike calm down you’re going to have a heart attack talking about the Rams. Chill out
Its a complete joke how these guys are talking as if that’s how stafford is thinking. They want nothing more than to create a narrative that has nothing to do with reality. The rams already gave stafford n extension and he’s sitting on 2 years left with no guaranteed money. They’ve showed stafford nothing but respect and will continue to do right by him. It’s been talked about year in and year out on account of injuries and how he feels moving forward. Florio and sims gotta be the biggest clowns in the analyst game. Ask Aaron Donald how they treated him not stl Louis. Who gives 2 💩about St. Louis they were never going to be there forever. Get over it
Mike Florio is the reason I don't watch NBC sports
Florio Foreal is a paid hater this dude hates the rams organization with a passion like bro go do something with yourself but talking football ain’t it 💯
If Stafford goes into free agency, who signs him with big money? The Rams 🐏 might be competing against themselves. Why overpay?
Seattle, Tennessee or Dallas off the top of my head after the season is over. Stafford grew up in Texas and might take cheaper than Dak’s 59.4 million dollars this season to retire in his hometown.
He's not going anywhere.
Quit with the Jerod Goff worship. Many QBs have been traded . You are treating him
Like a princess
Love 💕 the media 🤫🤭
Stafford blows Dik! Most over hyped avg QB
Florios hate against the Rams organization is so cringe…try some balanced NFL coverage NBC.
If Patrick Mahomes is not making noise about his salary no other QB should. I mean look at all those overpaid QBs that can't get things done year in year out.
Mahomes deal is not what it seems they move money around and play accounting tricks with his deal so it looks like he is the 10th highest paid QB on the surface but he is getting paid more inline with Burrow at $55 million a year.
@@kaptainkush4351and he got security that other wit just won’t get
Mahomes has a ton of guaranteed money right? That's as important to players as salary
Mahomes is making like $25 mil a year in endorsements alone
It depends on the circumstances. If Stafd just looking for some guarantee and security I don't blame him. Rams would be fools to let him go
Mikes been pushing the goff is better than Stafford narrative recently and it’s so asinine
Goff is better
Exactly, Goff is slightly above average , Stafford is way better, he just hates the Rams
Stafford is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL golf is good but he's not in the upper echelon like Stafford is.
Didn't the whole of the media, and talking heads, say goff's contract with the Rams was ridiculous! . Now it's pay everyone early! Good god you guys are just click bait. Mike, you have a problem. Chris at least you have a balanced show with amhed. Sometimes you have to move away from your friends because they start to drag you down.
Why would LA want to get rid of Stafford? He still has easily another 4 years of damn near elite play
Stafford sucks. He’s good, not great, and if not for Tart dropping an INT in the NFC Championship, he would never have gotten that Super Bowl. It was an awful throw right to a defender. That’s Stafford. He’s a “gunslinger” which often creates more problems than it solves.
The Matthew Stafford pond has no muck at the bottom. And yet.. here is Mike Florio like a carp just raking around.. Mike you are a nasty old carp.
😂😅 tweedle Dee and tweedle dumb..
Goff is better than Stafford. Stafford is old and makes too many dumb decisions. He was objectively worse in the playoff game and has never won a playoff game except one magic year
Florio is a clown, just because Goff is now making more money than Stafford doesn’t mean anything, look what Cousin got 😁
Detroit is the hot team now he should be paid more than Stafford , let him get the rams winning again and then maybe alittle more money the rams messed up trading. Period
Another no story to fill time
Yep lol
I'm tired of Florio, stop talking Rams bud, no body wants your negative opinion
Herbert is overpaid
Totally different situations between Goff and Stafford. First off, Stafford is in year two of a four-year extension he got after the SB. Secondly, Goff was due for a new contract so he got what he got. It’s a timing thing. Is Stafford worth it? Yes. Will the Rams take care of him? Yes.
Superbowl Wins
Stafford 1
Goff 0
Superbowl Losses
Stafford 0
Goff 1
NO OTHER STAT MATTERS FLORIO!!
Hahahaha- Mike cares about the truth
Nope- Mike cares about the truth HE WANTS TO SPIN - THAT SUITS HIS NARRATIVE🖕
This is unwatchable
"Just like Kirk Cousins, Stafford has made a TON of money". Lol. Except one of these players EARNED that money, this is a clownish take.
If Stafford wants a fully guaranteed deal they should guarantee those remaining 2 years but no extension. I think Stafford is going to want a raise, an extension, and more guaranteed money which the Rams just should not do. Why extend him when the 36 year old QB probably only has 2 years at peak performance.
Why does Florio always want somebody to sit out?😂
Maybe it’s just overall hate for teams from LA in both college and pros regardless of sport .
🤣🤣🤣
Florio just wants Matty to stick it to Mcvay so bad 😂😂😂
Stafford wants another ring
Since the Stafford, Goff trade, Goff over all stats are better then Stafford's.
The stats since the trade are identical. The difference is goff has a much better supporting cast.
They’re actually pretty identical…. Biggest difference is games played goff has played in like 7 or 8 more games, Stafford does have more ints tho, but he also won a SB so u gotta give that to him
You don’t really think he’s better
@@alexanderabrew1470 I mean he’s gotten better, the guy he is now isn’t the one the rams got rid of. I’m not gonna ignore how terrible he was his first year in Detroit either. He needs a good team a lot of QB’s do. He was good with us when we were loaded he’s good now cuz the lions are talented. He’s an elite game manager ( this term has a negative connotation, but I personally see it as a guy who doesn’t play hero ball and play smart Brady was a game manager) but the second there pressure, he’s statistically one of the worst if not thee worst QB’s in the NFL. All QB’s suck under pressure but when ur one of the worst ur jus prone to stupid mistakes.
Stafford got a ring, Goff got a sb lost. Keep telling me how Goff is better tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣 rams nation ain't missing nothing
Stafford 2023: Record 9-6, 0-1 in playoffs; missed 2 games. 62.6% completion %, 3,965 yards passing, 24 TD's and 11 picks.
Goff 2023 Record 12-5 regular season; 2-1 in playoffs. 67.3% completion %, 4,575 yards passing, 30 TD's and 12 picks.
Stafford 2022: Record 3-6, missed 8 games due to injury. 68% completion %, 2,087 yards passing, 10 TD's and 8 picks.
Goff 2022: Record 9-8. 65.1 completion %, 4,438 yards passing, 29 TD's and 7 picks.
Goff's numbers are overall better than Stafford's last season. He doesn't miss games due to injury like Stafford does, and he's younger.
Sorry, Simms, you're wrong...again.
😂🤡🤦♂️
I know, everyone is playing this game saying "Oh, well, Goff got us a playoff win...so...duh..." when it's really not that cut and dry. Goff also was the QB in the LOWEST scoring SB by any offense in NFL history. Goff is as nice guy but he's not a stud, he's not taking ownership, he's a bit player and he's proven his ceiling. Stafford is WAY above Goff and any football expert would say so, assuming their not one of these "woke" commie activists, like Florio.
No guaranteed money anymore! To anyone! You play you get paid! You don't you won't! That's how i would approach this if i was rams! Remember Todd Gurley? He cost millions even after he left! You would think the rams would learn from that!😮
How about leaving the guy alone. Ridiculous to talk about the unknown. Wait till the real reports come out, not just from rumours.
Such nonsense.. Stafford would never do something like that
Are guys just into drama, either they will work out their differences or they won't who cares lets talk football
Truth should always win!!!!!!
That was the most stafford statline I’ve seen since he was with my lions😂 guys don’t forget we went 11-5 in 2014-15 and then went like 4-12 and then 6-10 for like 3 years after the ‘15 season lol
Hey, where did your defenses rank in all that time? Why can someone lead the league in TD's and yards and the team STILL LOSE? It's almost like the Lions made a HABIT or wasting HOF talent and never surrounding it with the complete team to win. I think BARRY SANDERS and CALVIN JOHNSON said it best, the Lions are not about trying to WIN.
YOU LION FANS GETTING REAL ARROGANT AFTER ONE GOOD SEASON LMFAO
@@yahcrack bro where do you spot arrogance? I spent 11 years watching the man destroy his body for the org. They showed a Matthew stafford stat and you’re mad about it? Why tf weren’t you mad when the media kept on with the 5-46 record vs teams over .500? Why weren’t you mad at the Matt Paddford jokes? (Stat padding) you should truly just read and move tf on. You have no idea what it was like to watch his talent be wasted & watch him give games away with stupid picks that should’ve just been a punt. But hey , we are arrogant when he’s the one who said he’s the bad guy coming to town to rip our hearts out😂😂 Foh don’t mention me again
@@TheCountofToulouse in 2014 the 11-5 year we had the 2nd best defense. Overall. We got bounced in the wildcard. And watch all of you suddenly agree that we/he got screwed in that game💀💀💀
@@TheCountofToulouse and then ask yourself during his entire tenure here. There’s an accumulated 8 minute video of HIS teams LOSING on GAME winning TOUCHDOWNS by STAFFORD, that got taken away🤔 bro was just having a horrible time here. Wonder why that changed when Goff got here🤔
THAT STAFFORD WAS A WIN FOR THE RAMS BUT IT’S STARTING TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY. HE’S GETTING OLDER WHILE THE LIONS FUTURE IS JUST GETTING STARTED. IF THE LIONS WIN A SUPER BOWL, THEY WON THE TRADE EVEN WITH THE RAMS WINNING ONE. WHO’S THE RAMS QB AFTER STAFFORD?
We’ll see his Vikings this season. He needs to worry about who’s gonna be their starting QB in MIN instead worrying about Stafford.
Yeah he is gonna want more than Goff got. He's deserves it but Rams gotta commit too protection and more protection $$$. Matt is in his last few seasons physically and he is one or 2 bad hits away from a hand,thumb and shoulder injury that has sidelined him for stretches in seasons past. The guy is Worth it but I'm not sure he has 4 seasons left in his tank honestly.
Stafford has never missed a serious payday since draft day with mixed results overall. He’s paid fine considering he is super wealthy already and depends heavily on Snead to give him a stacked team.
Mixed results? Why. If Goff is the QB for the Rams, they DO NOT even GET to the Super Bowl and even if they DID, they LOSE it. Goff cannot throw a NO look pass with the game on the line and the team is down to backups and ONE good WR to WIN a title. Goff is the king of HOE HUM, the master of "oh well". Stafford WANTS to win, Goff acts like it's something that just happens sometimes.
Everybody LOVES this guy now! He’s one of the luckiest QBs in NFL history!! He should be sending Tartt a monthly stipend for dropping one of the easiest INTs in recent hstory!!!
People can play that 'if's and buts' game all day long but at the end of the game, the 9ers were the LOSERS. Does that still burn?
Not at all! My team has beat them TWICE in SUPERBOWLS!!
😂
Magic staff the last wizard > jared goofy
He'll be taken care of 🤭🤫🤔
Chris, can you ask your colleague Mike Flores oops I mean Florio, how does it feel to be owned by Demeatrice Lamar Jackson?
Didn't the highest paid defensive player retire and free up a load of cap recently?
THEY GOT THE MONEY BECAUSE THEY’RE NOT PAYING ANYONE BESIDES HIM AND KUPP THEY JUST KNOW THAT STAFFORD IS GETTING OLD. ALSO THEY’RE STILL PAYING AD.
Rams should have kept Carson Wentz....if Stafford walked....Wentz could easily take over..but you say, Wentz was bounced from team to team...so was Baker Mayfield...now look at Baker.....Wentz is bigger, stronger with a stronger arm.....