Russia advances suddenly in Donetsk & US aid bill passes senate I Ukraine: The Latest Podcast
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2024
- Day 787. Today, we bring you news from the battlefront, analyse developments in Donetsk as Russia pushes Ukraine back near Avdiivka and we discuss the latest diplomatic and political updates from around the world.
Contributors:
David Knowles (Head of Audio Development). @djknowles22 on X.
Dominic Nicholls (Associate Editor, Defence). @DomNicholls on X.
Francis Dearnley (Assistant Comment Editor). @FrancisDearnley on X.
Roland Oliphant (Senior Foreign Correspondent). @RolandOliphant on X.
Joe Barnes (Brussels Correspondent). @Barnes_Joe on X.
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'Inside a Besieged Ukrainian City Where Soldiers Await U.S. Arms' (Wall Street Journal):
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Ukrainian troops are overseasoned, not under. No American or British soldier has seen as much action without air support as they have.
Exactly this
This will completely reshape modern military tactics for the future war ahead.
unfortunately, they are conditioned to war, not trained for war ?
Lions, the lot of them.
@@sebastianforbes1 Lol. Experience doesn't exist in your world?
I don't understand the lack of acknowledgment of the hegemony of the US in this particular point of time?
I think they realise that's about to end and they can't cope. So they treat it like this military campaign and simply ignore reality.
Lies and spin don't win wars.
In what context?
Everyone acknowledges it
LPG gas imports from Russia into Europe is up 17%. No 1 importer France ?
Maybe, they shouldn't have shut down their nuclear power plants 😂
The sooner the world stops using oil & gas the better. I guess the next war will be over water & air!!!!!
All of Europe buys Russian energy.
When the Indian foreign minister met with Blinken last month he spelled out the facts.
When Blinken brought up India's energy purchases from Russia. He replied that Europe buys more energy from Russia in a day than India buys in a month. Blinken just smiled.
God speed to the shovel
The shovels were given by Prighozin to his ex-convicts, so they could go and dig trenches under fire for other Russian soldiers to make use of.
the tampon and shovel army can't even defeat one of the porest countries in Europe despite russia being backed by china, belarus, north korea, iran ..ect
I'd comment on the British PM but , what is his name?
Just look at what's in the aid and it answers all questions. No tanks, no bridging equipment, no SPGs, no offensive firepower at all. Just tons of 155mm shells, anti-tank/anti-air missiles, lots of IFVs, and the only "big stick" is the ATACMS but that's nothing new, just longer range. It is a package for an infantry-heavy army to DEFEND; that's it.
To be fair it's what Zelensky asked for, short term. After that they need a lot more. And it's still gonna be peanuts compared to what NATO would have to pay in money and especially blood should we continue to act so blind to history.
No Patriot missiles let alone an additional battery and not even an additional NASAMS or medium range AIM-120 missiles for NASAMS; just the short-range Stingers and the RIM-7 and AIM-9 missiles.
@@brodieboy3 Incorrect. Read it. The package explicitly includes RIM-7, AIM-9, FIM-92 (stinger), BGM-71 (TOW), AT-4, FGM-148 (Javelin), GMLRS (HiMARS), and a lot more... Patriot has been promised in the next lot, but may have been secretly included in this one as several Patriot batteries have reported clearance to be more active.
Ukranians have requested Bradley's. They love them more than we do. In reality this is the stuff I keep seeing the soldiers asking for.
Surprise and confuse the enemy. The US isn’t going to list all military help. They’ve done that before and got criticised. Don’t tell the ruzzians what’s in the bag !
"What is the name of our prime minister?" 😁
Street defiler 😂
Finally, US!
It will make no difference, they will not defeat Russia, this is a pointless human sacrifice
Come on Russia 🇷🇺🇬🇧
Yes. Come on Russia..... Go back to Russia and get out of Ukraine. Slava Ukrainii.
@@philiplbrown ukr is losing
@@cpxbni Watch the Kerch bridge Vlad then tell me Ukraine is losing.
@@philiplbrownI think the million plus Ukrainian deaths shows who is losing.
General Rajmund Andrzejczak was chief of staff of the Polish military. He said Ukrainian losses in millions. I guess he must be a Russian bot? 🧐
@@thedon1004 Then for a General he should be ashamed of himself. Ukraine has nowhere near million military, like the Russians say they destroyed thousands of Ukr planes which they never had in the first place. Get real Vlad, Russia has lost 3 times more military then Ukraine, not to mention the badly injured who will never fight again
I hope they do an Audit on all the money that has been wasted in Ukraine.
😂😂😂😂😂
I don't think they can blame 115 Bde; sounds like 47 Bde withdrew before they were properly relieved.
What is often lost in the discussion about defense spending is that much of the US defense budget is spent in other areas. This will come back and bite the US next time they ask for help in the middle east or Asia.
Also, the cost of NATO proper, i.e. what is actually used for alliance activities, isn't that much.
Much talk about Europe taking greater responsibility for its own defense - but no reflexion on what that would mean for US influence and arms export. It is naive to think that Europe would spend its defense budget in the US.
The smaller economies have a bigger percentage into there militarily budget because there gdp is a lot smaller than others.
No, they don't. Each country pledged to spend at least 2% of GDP respectively.
2023 defence spending.
Luxembourg was 0.7% of GDP.
Belgium was 1.13 % of GDP.
Iceland was 0.0% of GDP.
Denmark was 1.65% of GDP.
Other countries below 2% in 2023 were France, Italy, Portugal, Germany, Netherlands, Canada, Spain, Bulgaria, Hungary, Slovenia, North Macedonia, Norway, Montenegro, Turkey, and Albania,
I don't count 2024 because this year's spending is still ongoing. Maybe they will meet the target, maybe they won't. Germany may meet it because of it economic woes.
@gagamba9198 what I was saying was 2% of for example 2% of 235bil of a bigger economy is different figure than 2% of 10bil, I wasn't making any statement on who spends what percent and I was making an opinion of some countries can not afford 2%
Suddenly?
Eventually militarily, ukraine is not match to the russian, so why west not mediate a peace talks to save the rest of ukraine from total lost?
I understand that weapons producers in US very happy with this war, but why just for money they sacrifice russian n ukrainian ... very sad...
Because Russia will get a cm and take a kilometer
Because of putins actions Western nations must all spend more on defence and that's a simple fact that should be bipartisan.
Ideology should not trump practical and realistic appraisal of a situation andbit should not prevent the government taking appropriate action.
In the current climate any politician from either party who says there should be no increase or zero spending on defence is putting Ideology before the security of their nation and cannot be considered to have the foresight to be a leader.
It seems a very bad outcome for Ukraine to concede Crimea and I think Ukraine understands this. For anyone to suggest this as an option seems to show a lack of understanding about Ukraine's trade and economic necessities.
Without access to the Black Sea Ukraine is inhibited in exporting and will be dogged by Russia forever.
Russia on the other hand eill brow stronger and will not stop.
I doubt Ukraine would have worked so hard to regain the Black Sea access only to concede it.
It would be a travesty of justice and a huge mistake that will cost everyone greatly if Russia does not return to its own borders.
It seems advisable to realise exactly what Putin is and how his regime operate and to recognise that Russia does have an opposition that will continue to oppose putin no matter how many he disposes of and by how many means he uses.
Ukrainians need to be able to rotate troops. Being able to see their families, their friends & relations.
to know what they are fighting for... and the consequences of being over run... then that changes everything.
Support for Ukraine has never been more important since the Battle of Kyiv . Slava Ukraini & Heroyam Slava
Kharkiv to become like Mariupol before military defence and offence assets arrive? 🤯
Some will arrive in days. This will probably aid Ukraines air defense and deep strike ability before it does much for their combat capability.
Ukraine’s greatest need, more than materiel, is something that cannot be bought or sent- more Ukrainians. Look at Ukraine’s 2023 population pyramid; there are virtually no young men.
The material aid from the West will probably keep Ukraine from losing outright. Retaking territory will require the Ukrainians to go onto the short side of the attrition balance attacking an enemy in field fortifications; we have already seen Ukraine do poorly at that when they were in the best personnel, equipment, and supply situation they’ve had thus far.
First will come what has already been proposed: deeper conscription. When that is insufficient, the solution will be for Ukraine to ask for combat troops.
Dream on Ivan. Send some more drunk convicts on three wheelers to check it out
Best situation but not optimal. They needed mine clearing equipment
@@insertcognomen thanks for offensive .. that’s next year now.
Dems suggested they'd support him if MTG calls for his removal.
House speaker? Yes looks like it. There really isn’t a viable Republican alternative so might as well keep this guy or they are basically shut down for business
That's the same thing Pelosi told McCarthy.
How'd that work out?
😂
@@dannyb4753 LoL not too good!
MTG is an absolute wing nut. On what ticket did she get elected as representative? There must be a shed load of Russian trolls in her district.
Russia trying to beat the 3-4 business days it takes for Direct Deposit to drop on that $20 Billion.
Lol
Except its not a direct deposit....its a check in the mail.
Ukrainian officials will have to collect their finder's fees too, before it gets dispersed.
Military discipline, once 'optional' for exhausted & irritable soldiers, is likely to lead to serious losses.
I see Russian propagandists in these comments.. 🇺🇦🇺🇦
come on that cuts both ways
There is no propaganda from the UK, its only truth.
Well it's no secret that Putinstan has massive troll farms to post comments on Western news sites. Average Ivan earns less than $800 per month, so it doesn't take much oil and natural gas revenue to pay them their meager wages.
@@mrvgranfield Not really. I have yet to see ukrainian propaganda bots, but i constantly see russian bots. Maybe there are some ukrainian bots but in that case they are not very obvious, because Russian bots are very obvious in the way that they say the exact same thing and have similar usernames.
@@mrvgranfieldKrembots vs normal people defending democracy. The 2 are totally different
A Ukrainian battlegroup reinforced with battalions of nationalists has failed to break through Russian defenses near the village of Terny in the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR), military expert Andrey Marochko told TASS.
"The activity of Ukrainian troops has increased threefold near Terny. To support their assault teams, Ukrainian armed formations had sent reinforcements to that area. Despite all their efforts, Ukrainian militants did not achieve any positive results, as they failed to break through our defenses," Marochko said, citing his own sources.
The Ukrainians have also intensified artillery and drone attacks at Russian positions near that sector of the line of engagement, Marochko added.
🇺🇲🇺🇦🇪🇺🇬🇧 Sorry it took my government so long to get this support where it needs to go. This November I will do my part to vote straight Democrat and hopefully stop these severely "regarded" MAGA psychos or their cult leader from holding any power. Please hold strong Ukraine and forgive our failings.
Not a single house has been rebuilt in Hawaii after their devastating fires...Not a single house. No money apparently ?
@@samsungtap4183 No money for East Palestine either.
No American money for Americans, ever.
Keep up your clueless woke stupidity..NEVER has the MIC stopped sending weapons to UKR..but hey keep listening to these LSM lies.
Does this mean Kiev is advancing towards Lvov faster than the Russians are retreating?
When it comes to easy money, or cheap deals including oil, legal loopholes or hidden unlawful acts, Britain has always been immortal or corrupt.
I agree. Britain is immortal and thank God 😂
Hey war is war baby, but the wolves are at ol GIl's door here.
not just Britain but the Biden admin
royals secretly rule us. a pretend democracy. its courrupt as fk.
@@darrinvaughan8992Britain is broke. The largest private employer is Tesco 😂.
Immortal my arse.
❤Ukrainians ❤
Ukraine is losing. Stop the war.
@@devilishdeedneed negotiation between all for stop genocide of people
@devilishdeed First, Russia has to return all Ukrainian territory, pay reparations, and answer to the ICC for war crimes.
@@Freedowill-humanrights blame the US for not allowing it to end.
@@trumpsuckspigbalz2351 Hilarious!
The cope in these comments is *chefs kiss* how tf yall go from "were gonna take back crimea" to "yeah they've been taking territory but we didn't want it anyways" 🤣🤣🤣
Pay attention. They always say "territories". But he never said "people." They don't need people living in these territories, they don't consider them their own.
Slava shovelina 😂
In the podcast was there some strange background music while Dom was talking? Let that intern go 😂
On the note about the 115th. I have seen alot of Twitter posts from family of the soldiers in it saying alot of things about them, none positive. It seems the leadership there is not concerned about the ones fighting. The families feel like this is getting swept aside and hidden. Please dont let that happen. The guys fighting receive threats if they talk. I fully believe the Commander of the 47th. There is alot more behind this story.
The soldiers of Ukraine are actually being held hostage by the regime. If they desert, their families will be killed. These facts have been repeatedly confirmed. Those who do not have families or have moved their families abroad in advance have the opportunity to defect.
Dom doesn't like the bad news
Reports: understrength and exhausted Ukrainian units have the breakdown that understrength and exhausted units commit.
Dom: “jazz hands”
25 minutes in...OPSEC!
Chasiv Yar is critically important to hold ......it has been in my dreams........it has to be held.
Then donate.
It's kaput, only a matter of weeks now.
Too little too late. Politicians have dithered too long.
Booya - vote out the Russofile Republicans in November @
Why is Britain afraid of Russia? Britain is an island and Russia doesn't have that kind of Navy.
Russia barely has an army too.
@@bigpimpin179and yet Europe claiming they're about to get invaded any day now.
@@bigpimpin179 - if Russia loses, what will be left of Ukraine, and who will want to live there and pay off all the debts ?
But Russia has a Zircon missile. Two or three zircons and the island is gone. That's why Britain is afraid.
Britain just doing the USA bidding. The US also uses proxies to stirrup tensions.
But I thought we were in a stalemate lol, but Russia is advancing how is that ha ha ha
'Suddenly' advancing, of course. Suddenly and cowardly advancing, and Ukraine is braverly retreating.
Comments full of Russian Trolls today. I guess they don't like the news.
What warms me is that russkies are actually paying them and wasting money on this.
@@oleksii8182Леша, едь уже в Крынки, там тебя ждут. Бесплатный коммент
The earning of 7 months receiving almost nothing!
🇺🇦🇺🇦
So Gordon Brown and Labour bankrupted our country and we still cannot pay for the annual cost of all those lost years under Labour without borrowing more each year.
Nonetheless, where we are now, it seems that the increase for the UK defence now announced may only fund better retention measures for trained personnel; pay, pensions, accommodation and, hopefully, live firing training.
Any radical enhancement of capability will likely need to go much further to reverse the cuts of the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s and 2010s. Won’t it?
Take it from the Overseas Aid budget; that only appears to have paid countries to despise us.
Glory to Azov Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
They were running faster than Forrest Gump yesterday.
Genocide Joe is talking of USA leadership NOT the USA circus.
If only dollars were soldiers and shells.
I remember how vitally important the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were. Now no one cares about either. Millions dead and trillions spent for nothing.
Ukraine is destined to be forgotten just the same as Iraq and Afghanistan.
No
Day and night difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine.
If anything, if Ukraine starts losing, Europe will step in to stop Russia.
I doubt it. Ukraine is part of Europe and hence of immediate security concern.
@@chrisviking7807
Russia is also part of Europe.
Jesus, the Russians are out in force here today. How does it feel to be on the losing side guys?
Same massive attacks as on the frontline. Desperately trying to get more territory AND to catch more fish online, before the military aid comes.
Ask Ukrainians fleeing from the frontline and fleeing their country. Only the most r*t*rded people don't see that Ukrainians are currently losing. This podcast have quite plenty of such individuals.
Jesus and Russians should never be mentioned in the same sentence.
Ukraine is part of Russia 🇷🇺.
Adiivka has fallen!!!
It has to be remembered that as much as the current trend is worrying, RU forces have captured less ground than the failed UA offensive last summer..
Utter nonsense. Ukraine is collapsing.
Ukraine will not win without other countries becoming truly involved, sending their own troops, which will never happen because tuat would be world war 3. Stop living in a fantasy
Exactly. Context is everything. The chances of Russia taking Donetsk oblast is remote, yet alone Kyiv.
Clearly never looked at the objective of the SMO.
Demilitarisation of Ukraine was the number 1 objective. Russia has gone one better they have demilitarised NATO.
The collapse of the banderite regime will finalise the other objective.
It was never to acquire land. The longer range weapons given to Ukraine will lead to a larger loss of territory as Russia will never let them hold territory that they can launch attacks on Russian territory from.
It’s easy for us to criticise the 115th but we are sitting in our own homes and don’t face shortages of supplies or ammunition, we need to donate all we can to help Ukraine 🇺🇦
Donate yourself Ukraine needs soldiers
@@Peacewar2020You yanks should be there fighting. It's your proxy war why should others die to feed your MIC? 🧐
Russian power...!!!!!!
*Slava Rossiya* 🇷🇺 🪖 💪 😎 ❤️
Delusional guys
Ukraine should sit on the table for peace talks before all the your is gone 😢😢😢
the truth is starting to come ...
First
Over 3,100 foreign mercenaries fight for Ukraine during Russia’s special military operation and most of them come from the United States and Canada, the press office of the Russian Investigative Committee said in a statement on Thursday.
"Investigators have information about an overall number of over 3,100 foreign mercenaries taking part in combat activities on the Ukrainian side and the majority of them come from the United States, Canada, Great Britain and Georgia," the statement reads.
The committee added that measures are underway to locate their whereabouts and bring them to criminal liability.
Why isnt Zelensky on the front lines if its so important
- because he's just signed an increase to the border guards to stop those pesky escapes to Moldova and Romania ? 😂
Where's Putin at? Hiding in the Kremlin I assume? Wouldn't even visit the flooded parts of his own country with his own citizens begging him for help. Pathetic.
Hahahahahahaha
Most Americans don't support aid to ukraine. The military industrial combine does.
Incorrect
💙Slava ukraini 💛🇺🇦🇺🇸
Why are we supporting Ukraine ? This isn't our fight. If Russia wants it's old territory back let em have it
Oh another Russian paid troll. It's not your territory, Crimea is Ukraine territory, as is Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzha. The west is fighting for freedom from Putin's imperialist ambitions and Putin will NEVER win. Russian society is sick of Putin's war because he has left hundreds of thousands of Russian families without sons, fathers, brothers.
A tsunami of steel is massing near Kharkiv and Sumy, FAB-3000 first confirmed use today. The hammer is about to fall.
😂 did it hit anything or was it like the rest of the 'superweapons'?
Hi Oleg. How's your little "little problem"?
Can't use the fab3000 with a glide kit. It's bollocks.
I ain't a Russian bot. But Kharkiv is not in a good place.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Counteroffensive failure 2.0.
Lol
Lol, the copium is thick.
😂
Yukes lost war. Ivans won it. Recognise Crimea and Donbas as Russian and call it a day.
Gfys
Hope Russia gets there fast I’m done paying for Ukraine. BIDEN HAS MADE THE USA BROKE AGAIN
😂 ruski troll accounts are getting desperate
@@BinarySounds Running out of cabbage
It’s a money laundering operation.
Not much chance of that.
Sending secondhand weapons to Ukraine isn’t making America poor. It will make it richer.
Ukraine is finished, sign the unconditional surrender documents already
😂 keep dreaming vatnik
What is your favourite wallpaper pattern ?
Why and give in to a terrorist and war criminal?
If Russia wants Ukraine to surrender, then Russia will have to suffer a hell of a lot more!
@@bluecardholder Beggars can't be choosers :S
I hope Russia wins! Lets go Russia!!!😊
GFY
Keep hoping, but be prepared for heartbreak 💔
🇷🇺💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@@anthonyhulse1248 hope is the Zelensky strategy as proven.
Russia has lost 90+% of its army in Ukraine! That is a terrible result.
Why is the birthrate so low with Europeans? People say it's feminism?
Maybe men are infertile is that women's fault as well
The birthrate in Russia is lower. If it wasn't for domestic violence and date rape, only Muslims would be born in the Russian empire.
Da Torahgraph 's war
Shalom gimme 💰