Thats why This video better than Feedbackgaming & TommyKay & Anothers. Cheaters & Exploits Only ignorants, Normal Play Only Real Gamers & Real Players & Real Pros.
The AI goes reluctant because it's been wired to try being cautious for simple traps where you pull back over a seemingly large area to entice them in then smack in on a choke point to encircle large amounts of units. Interestingly it doesn't actually care for your projected unit count to make this choice, so they're going carefully expecting some shenanigans even though their intel will say you have no units whatsoever.
Ah yes I knew they changed it, but yeah you would think they might account for the intelligence that they have on that player's military. They aren't going to spring out of holes in the ground if they don't exist 😆😆 Although maybe they account for my ally's militaries as well, who knows?
@@hatless_spider it's funny though because they still fall for tighter traps over and over again despite seeing your units and moving in anyways. Yet they see miles of empty land and just stand around waiting for someone else to dip their toe in.
@@hatless_spider “they aren’t going to spring out of holes” -the guy that abused the exploit where you wait to deploy your units so you can teleport them to where they need to be
12:18 If you wonder what the focus name means, it's "In the name of Polish Underground State" and was an opening statement of all verdicts done by the Resistance Court when dealing with traitors and collaborants
Interesting strategy. I recently played poland a similar way to get warszawo walcz. Poland has such a great design. Even after your capitulation, it is more fun than many other countries
Yeah it's actually insane the bonuses that they get! Warsaw uprising spawning fully equipped, elite veterancy 12 widths too. Most minor nations can only dream of all the off map factories that they can pick up
Im sure that everyone that viewed this video that hasn completed the achievement is very grateful for a fun way to completing the challenge. And for those that have already, Im sure they wished they thought of this strat. Great content man. I had to subscribe. You earned it
Surprisingly there's an even easier way to do this where you civil war yourself without an actual civil war and then join the Axis until you backstab them with capitulated Russian holdings, but that one might not work anymore
It really doesn’t take a genius I know it’s a good strat but the amount of people just saying oh I couldn’t never thought of doing this is just ridiculous
Mr. Spider, I am a very noob HoI4 player. My hours aren't that impressive and I'm more for the mods than anything. I'm not one to achievement hunt, but when I saw your video pop up, and I watched it through, I felt the flame light in my mind. I could do this. As of 1 minute ago, I survived 30 minutes of Hel, on my third attempt. Thank you for your innovation that made this approach.
This is one of the best Hearts of Iron 4 videos I have seen in a very long time, thank you. I will try this strategy some time, it seems like much fun.
That focus you did't want to pronounce "w imieniu Polski podziemnej" which translates to "in the name of Polish underground state". Those words were spoken by Polish underground fighters while carrying out the sentences for traitors. Just to justify them and and stand out from nazists who didn't care about the court, or judgement, just killed. So for example when underground state of Poland found out about a traitor, or colaborant they send some guys to do the dirty work but just before that they were saying: "w imieniu Polski podziemniej, skazuję cię na śmierć" which translate to " in the name of underground state of Poland i sentence you to penalty of death". If someone want to correct me, or add something from themselves feel free to write below! Great video tho, keep up the great work!
Trying out this strategy was probably the most unique HoI4 session I had since I first got the game. A lot of fun for sure as well. Glad I could help out! ^^
I've seen a lot of people saying they are going to/already tried this. Let's get a thread going where we can give helpful tips or say what you had issues with when trying this!
The Soveits in my attempt were really weak. If I delayed the uprising too much, Germany ate them alive. If I launched it too early, Germany was too strong to push myself. Had to bunker down and grind them.
Thanks for the tips!!! I was almost able to get the achievement but was short of 100k and got capitulated again. So kept fighting as exile and was able to get the achievement!!
You truly put your heart into this, there's no other explanation. So far I've tried defending around the Katowice-Krakow area for its geographical advantage with lots of hills and rivers but got overwhelmed in time, without reaching even 1m enemy casualties. Your strategy is far more secure and playable since I not only defended my territory but also had the chance to initiate a counter-offensive after I got my army ready and equipped properly. Much appreciations from Turkey. Waiting for your Hardly Anything Sèvres guide (well, if you don't have one yet)
I do plan to make a HAS full video eventually. Not super looking forward to it, though, as it is a difficult one to make fun. Hopefully I will find a way
While I can see some might dislike the initial phase, just letting them in unopposed, I like the use of operatives to cause the Warsaw uprising. Very creative approach thank you.
Thanks! I didn't want to play the traditional method because clicking last stand and desperate defense repeatedly did not seem enticing to me. Not bashing the old method though, a lot of people have come up with clever strategies for it!
Ahhhhh yeah I was thinking of doing something similar like this just for fun. I would’ve never thought I could’ve gotten one of the most prestigious achievements out of it!
i loved your guide, very reliable, in my game i got the worst outcome possible. China capituled before 1940, the allies failed in the africa front and urss is surviving in terminal state and i got the achiev in 7 oct 1942 and holding very easy.
You know there is a reason why in real life tank divisons are often 2/3 tank 1/3 infantry, while mechanized divisions are 1/3 tank 2/3 infantry. Combined arms warfare is what works. Its not a cheezy game mechanic that mixing infantry and tanks gets you strong forces, its should be considered a bug that a tank divion and infantry division on the same tile dont give such results.
@@Ryukuro Another game thing that doesnt happen is that when this division takes soft attack damage its not the mechanized infantry dying leaving behind unsupported tanks, instead it seems tankers get out of their tanks and take on infantry roles as if they where trained for them. Also then the division that should have lost all its infantry gets reenforced that brings down the xp of the whole divion when in reality should you have veteran tankers with green infantry that would IRL result in lack of combined arms and total failiur unless you send the divion back to the rear and have them excercise for a month to get the new infantry to learn how to fight side by side with tanks. Real life is much more complex than any game I guess. A clear demonstration of gamyness is that when your troops are starving on Iwo Džima you can still build forts because in game output on civilian factories can be used on any tile you control, where as IRL the general controling the island out right told the ships supplying the japanese forced that they need less food and water and more construction matrial shipped to them, causing men to fall ill from exhaustian malnurishment so that they could turn the iland in to a fortress. IRL what you ship when american submerines are throtling your supply is a hard choice, in game fort construction material just teleports.
OH, OH THAT'S GENIUS. All these years I was thinking that this achievement requires you to not capitulate, The only sad part is doing it in 1939 means one can't go for the One True Correct Path for Poland- which is PSL's Peasants Republic and Front Morges.
Hey! I know I’m a year late lol, but I just wanted to say that it’s genuinely appreciated that you said “self-inflicteded unaliving” at 13:57 instead of the original word. As someone suffering from ptsd related to that subject it feels very comforting to hear someone avoid that word. Really good video btw! I enjoyed it a lot ❤
Give it a whirl and update how it went! I like to hear if it helped and it's informative for other people too. Hmm, maybe I'll make a pinned comment where people can give advice/say how it went for them
@@hatless_spider So, I fired off the uprising in 1942 at first, but the Soviets had been pushed back too much. I then reloaded and launched it in November of 1941. I wasn't able to push and encircle the germans. But I was able to hold on to dear life by garrisoning in a circle around Wasaw and having Katowitz for the steel. Eventually the Germans/Axis tired themselves out and I was able to grind them to 1.8m casualties in a final push. Definetly less tedious than the "typical" method, but I wasn't able to get it as cleanly as you did.
Wait I thought the actual Old way was the Warsaw Strategy. Where you put all of your divisions on three provinces, Lodz, a plains tile and Warsaw Itself????
I succeeded in a similar challenge by surviving as belgium. It is surprisingly easy making a small defensive pocket with 1 port, waiting until american tanks land and then overruning the germans.
After seeing your borbon france video, i think it is viable too for napoleon even better where you can ask for military access from uk and us then avenge waterloo to quickly capitulate the allies, but i am struggling to find a way and the best timing to declare war on Germany (munich conference and poland cannot get me lowlands, i have not enough manpower to fight germany after it beat up the lowlands)and overwhelm themto get the warscores
@@hatless_spider I am still learning how to do effective micro, so it was much more of a slog to expand from the initial defensive circle. But other than that it worker perfectly.
@wu lle nice no worries! I am just always curious to see how my strats do when put into practice! I appreciate you telling me and trying it so quickly!
The original holding strat is still very cool, don't get me wrong! But this at least provides an alternative to the last stand clickfest that I personally didn't want to do!
No, I wanted it as cheap as possible since we do still have some things we need to produce besides just tanks as poland. If we add heavy mgs that would get us 8 more soft attack, but add 2 more IC to the cost. I guess this extra cost would be reduced by 25% though, so maybe it's worth a try!
@@hatless_spider Heavy MGs are actually a good idea, maybe as the game goes later and you have a higher mil count, but I was talking about additional MGs, 1 SA and 2 defense for .5 production cost. Regardless though I really wanna try your build on a France game, it’s a cool idea
It could probably work yeah since they will have next to nothing there. At least for this tutorial though, I wanted to keep it as uncomplicated as possible so it can be easily followed
*Thats why This video better than Feedbackgaming & TommyKay & Anothers. Cheaters & Exploits Only ignorants, Normal Play Only Real Gamers & Real Players & Real Pros.*
> watches video > replicates strat > retreats to a circular fallback line > each half of the polish army randomly decides to relocate to the respective other side of the country > entrenchment is killed > day ruined
I actually made a second strategy that didn't become as popular, but I feel like it works quite well and is still fun! ua-cam.com/video/N1IARKZsJrM/v-deo.html
I think you're thinking of Libya, which can do both. Possibly you are thinking of how Yemen gets the highest population from forming Arabia, because other nations don't core it from the decision. I watch Sejozwak too 😁
@@hatless_spider also i saw in your saves you were doing monarchist macedonia? i remember i tried doing the greek monarchy path once and it just sucked so much i stopped before i finished the political tree. doing macedonia as monarchist greece sounds like even harder than normal fascist. good luck
@Quichrlyn yeah it's in the works. I think I have the way down now but I still have more testing to do! It really is probably the worst monarchist path in the game
Thanks Hatless, i tried this recently but the Warsaw Uprising never triggered and I keep strengthening resistance and it got all the way to 100%but sitll nothing
Honestly the old method wasn't that bad. first attempt I was just learning while second attempt I got it when I knew what I was doing. Now crusader kings 2 is the true hel.
5:12 to 5:28 hmm, I think Britain would legit kick you out if you said that to them and if they had the option to drop the exiled government on the English channel lmao.
Hey hatless just wanted to ask you something, are spy agencys necessary for the strat? I dont own la resistance and wondering if its worth going for it
Anyone have better info for this question? Hmmm I'm actually not sure if it can function without la resistance. If the warsaw uprising can still happen regardless it should work though. Maybe someone else here can tell you more.
@@hatless_spider I think the warsaw uprising can still happen, though I have never actually tried, but when I was trying for the achievement normally I could still do the uprising tree. Seems like it would just take ages more, so maybe its not worth it.
Trying this now. Thanks always dreaded this achievement but now I’m willing to try. Did you stick with grand battle plan or switch to superior firepower?
The older way which by doing the Warsaw strat. The Technical New Way is to do the Krakow-Katowice Donut. All divisions in a donut in Krakow, Katowice, the forest tile above Katowice and the tile beneath Krakow.
Hey I was just thinking, I'm not sure if this would work but, after you send all equipment to UK to keep it, why not also recruit a million divisions to keep as much manpower as possible?
I don't understand how a combined arms division suddenly started being called a space marine division. I literally larp as the US with infantry and tanks in one template. Hell the british did that before the US started doing it too.
It's an old HOI4 term for it at this point. But yeah, it's an actual real life strategy too. France employed it although in their case it proved ineffective against the massed tanks of germany
@@hatless_spider In the US case, they had so many tanks they decided "F*** it!" and gave tanks to many infantry units like opera winfrey screaming "You get a car, and you get a car!" The US tank spam was so big, the germans didn't have enough ammo to take them all out.
Since I don't even have HOI 4, but still quite a bit interested in history I don't understand, why players defending Poland don't want to extend the defensive perimeter along the Bug river and Carpathians, only stick to Vistula and Warta. It would allow for more manpower and factories (from so called Centralny Okręg Przemysłowy, which on this map would span across provinces of Lublin, Kielce and Kraków) to be in control of Poland.
Essentially we need as small a perimeter as possible that still allows effective control over as much as possible. I probably could have held more at the start with my method, but since it is a tutorial, I wanted to make it possible for as many people as possible to have success while following
Is there an agency or button that influences how many Polish states rebel or is it vanilla that all of Poland rises? The latter would be meta gaming as the allies could flood in [Edit] Why didn’t the Allies floor in btw? Other than Danzig being taken back by the Germans, you reckon it’s a viable strat too to let the allies flood in?
1. It is influenced by what Germany owns. So that is why I wanted them to reconquer all of poland if possible, so that my uprising can be bigger since soviets control eastern poland from molotov ribbentrop. 2. The allies actually can't get in due to denmark being held by germany, and thus the strait there is closed
Thanks for the guide. I kept trying the bitt3rst33l and feedback strats and kept failing but I managed your guide first attempt 😅
Thats why This video better than Feedbackgaming & TommyKay & Anothers. Cheaters & Exploits Only ignorants, Normal Play Only Real Gamers & Real Players & Real Pros.
@@C.A._Old what is bro on???
@@alicorn3924 does this still work bro?
@@Mclairdd I got the achievemement today, with the help of this guide
The AI goes reluctant because it's been wired to try being cautious for simple traps where you pull back over a seemingly large area to entice them in then smack in on a choke point to encircle large amounts of units. Interestingly it doesn't actually care for your projected unit count to make this choice, so they're going carefully expecting some shenanigans even though their intel will say you have no units whatsoever.
Ah yes I knew they changed it, but yeah you would think they might account for the intelligence that they have on that player's military.
They aren't going to spring out of holes in the ground if they don't exist 😆😆
Although maybe they account for my ally's militaries as well, who knows?
@@hatless_spider it's funny though because they still fall for tighter traps over and over again despite seeing your units and moving in anyways. Yet they see miles of empty land and just stand around waiting for someone else to dip their toe in.
@@hatless_spider “they aren’t going to spring out of holes”
-the guy that abused the exploit where you wait to deploy your units so you can teleport them to where they need to be
@@lukeb1663 They are dropped from the sky like space marines. That's no exploit at all!
They didn't spring out of holes. That mechanized division was the paper service yesterday.
I like this. Very creative method
Thank you!
I watched your method a couple times and enjoyed it as well!
12:18 If you wonder what the focus name means, it's "In the name of Polish Underground State" and was an opening statement of all verdicts done by the Resistance Court when dealing with traitors and collaborants
Good bit of info!
Now next issue...how to pronounce it 😁😆😆😆😁
@@hatless_spider Something to the effect of "v' imyenyu Polski' podzhiemney"
Hope it helps
@@ambiguousdrink4067 it does, thanks!
@@hatless_spider Google Translate is pretty good at polish pronounciation. Just paste the text there and listen
I love how taking some land to get the germans to counter-attack and take casualties turned into trying to encircle half the eastern front
Interesting strategy. I recently played poland a similar way to get warszawo walcz. Poland has such a great design. Even after your capitulation, it is more fun than many other countries
Yeah it's actually insane the bonuses that they get! Warsaw uprising spawning fully equipped, elite veterancy 12 widths too.
Most minor nations can only dream of all the off map factories that they can pick up
My man really just saw everyone struggling and went "aight lemme fix that for ya"
🤜🤛
Im sure that everyone that viewed this video that hasn completed the achievement is very grateful for a fun way to completing the challenge. And for those that have already, Im sure they wished they thought of this strat. Great content man. I had to subscribe. You earned it
Surprisingly there's an even easier way to do this where you civil war yourself without an actual civil war and then join the Axis until you backstab them with capitulated Russian holdings, but that one might not work anymore
Really clever, can't imagine the amount to time it took to figure out the exact specifics of this strat.
This one wasn't as intensive as a lot of my strategies, actually. But it still took about a week or so of testing in my freetime
It really doesn’t take a genius I know it’s a good strat but the amount of people just saying oh I couldn’t never thought of doing this is just ridiculous
Mr. Spider, I am a very noob HoI4 player. My hours aren't that impressive and I'm more for the mods than anything. I'm not one to achievement hunt, but when I saw your video pop up, and I watched it through, I felt the flame light in my mind.
I could do this.
As of 1 minute ago, I survived 30 minutes of Hel, on my third attempt. Thank you for your innovation that made this approach.
Awesome good job!
mr spider
This is one of the best Hearts of Iron 4 videos I have seen in a very long time, thank you. I will try this strategy some time, it seems like much fun.
That focus you did't want to pronounce "w imieniu Polski podziemnej" which translates to "in the name of Polish underground state". Those words were spoken by Polish underground fighters while carrying out the sentences for traitors. Just to justify them and and stand out from nazists who didn't care about the court, or judgement, just killed. So for example when underground state of Poland found out about a traitor, or colaborant they send some guys to do the dirty work but just before that they were saying: "w imieniu Polski podziemniej, skazuję cię na śmierć" which translate to " in the name of underground state of Poland i sentence you to penalty of death". If someone want to correct me, or add something from themselves feel free to write below! Great video tho, keep up the great work!
18:24 I am Polish and in my opinion the best Polish patriotic song is the "pierwsza brygada"
The music choice was perfect!
Well, I had my polish friend, Tom from Bitt3rSteel Discord, help me with music choice.
So it's way more legit than just me picking!
What's the name of the song?
Trying out this strategy was probably the most unique HoI4 session I had since I first got the game.
A lot of fun for sure as well.
Glad I could help out! ^^
I followed this guide after trying the Katowice enclave strat several times and it worked like a charm. Nice!
Awesome, glad to hear it worked well!
Wow, I am very impressed that there is an alternative way to do this! Thanks for the effort. Can't wait to give it a try!
A HOI4 UA-camr would probably be the last thing I’d expect Gandhi to reincarnate as.
I've seen a lot of people saying they are going to/already tried this.
Let's get a thread going where we can give helpful tips or say what you had issues with when trying this!
The Soveits in my attempt were really weak. If I delayed the uprising too much, Germany ate them alive. If I launched it too early, Germany was too strong to push myself. Had to bunker down and grind them.
Very novel solution I like it. My original plan was to just have a movie running while I did the achievment but this looks more engaging lol
Thanks for the tips!!!
I was almost able to get the achievement but was short of 100k and got capitulated again.
So kept fighting as exile and was able to get the achievement!!
Glad it worked out in the end!
This is incredible. I already have this achievement, but this video made me want to do it *again* ;-)
I did Warsaw uprising I realised that you could've I tried it but it was too grueling at the same time
Amazing video, Poland is my favourite hoi4 nation and this is now my new favourite poland video
You truly put your heart into this, there's no other explanation. So far I've tried defending around the Katowice-Krakow area for its geographical advantage with lots of hills and rivers but got overwhelmed in time, without reaching even 1m enemy casualties. Your strategy is far more secure and playable since I not only defended my territory but also had the chance to initiate a counter-offensive after I got my army ready and equipped properly. Much appreciations from Turkey. Waiting for your Hardly Anything Sèvres guide (well, if you don't have one yet)
I do plan to make a HAS full video eventually.
Not super looking forward to it, though, as it is a difficult one to make fun.
Hopefully I will find a way
@@hatless_spiderplease do. I've played turkey so much fucking around trying to get HAS.
While I can see some might dislike the initial phase, just letting them in unopposed, I like the use of operatives to cause the Warsaw uprising. Very creative approach thank you.
Very creative solution, loved it!
Thanks!
I didn't want to play the traditional method because clicking last stand and desperate defense repeatedly did not seem enticing to me.
Not bashing the old method though, a lot of people have come up with clever strategies for it!
Ahhhhh yeah I was thinking of doing something similar like this just for fun.
I would’ve never thought I could’ve gotten one of the most prestigious achievements out of it!
I will try this out after my current run. Thank you!
You can also keep your divisions by sending them as expeditionary forces to allies, and then recalling them after you capitulate
Great video with even greater strategy, thanks i will try it out .
Update how it goes! I like to hear if it helped!
@@hatless_spider i wasnt at home so i havent played yet but its great to see how you care about viewers
thank you gamer! after 1.4k hours, i finally have it! Your guides are fucking awesome, thank you again!
As for me i atempted it the painfull way of warsaw-łódź line and it was horrible, but made it at first atempt
it’s so funny that Walery Sławek killed himself in this run considering he already did that in April 1939, 4 months before the run starts.
The original timeline is certainly VERY off track in this alternate universe 😁
Very good background music choices
i loved your guide, very reliable, in my game i got the worst outcome possible. China capituled before 1940, the allies failed in the africa front and urss is surviving in terminal state and i got the achiev in 7 oct 1942 and holding very easy.
Awesome! Glad to hear it helped!
I am making this comment before watching the video. Thanks Hatlesspider, I'm sure you found a great tactic.
Thanks for engaging and helping the traffic! I appreciate all you guys helping out the channel!
Thank God there's an alternative to Feedback gaming's painful RNG strat.
Edit: I took a quick peek at your content, instantly subscribed.
Thanks and welcome!
Oh and Bittersteel's even more painful RNG strat
You know there is a reason why in real life tank divisons are often 2/3 tank 1/3 infantry, while mechanized divisions are 1/3 tank 2/3 infantry. Combined arms warfare is what works. Its not a cheezy game mechanic that mixing infantry and tanks gets you strong forces, its should be considered a bug that a tank divion and infantry division on the same tile dont give such results.
I mean pure tank divs suck in game. Any remotely optimized div has some mech in it
@@Ryukuro Another game thing that doesnt happen is that when this division takes soft attack damage its not the mechanized infantry dying leaving behind unsupported tanks, instead it seems tankers get out of their tanks and take on infantry roles as if they where trained for them. Also then the division that should have lost all its infantry gets reenforced that brings down the xp of the whole divion when in reality should you have veteran tankers with green infantry that would IRL result in lack of combined arms and total failiur unless you send the divion back to the rear and have them excercise for a month to get the new infantry to learn how to fight side by side with tanks. Real life is much more complex than any game I guess.
A clear demonstration of gamyness is that when your troops are starving on Iwo Džima you can still build forts because in game output on civilian factories can be used on any tile you control, where as IRL the general controling the island out right told the ships supplying the japanese forced that they need less food and water and more construction matrial shipped to them, causing men to fall ill from exhaustian malnurishment so that they could turn the iland in to a fortress. IRL what you ship when american submerines are throtling your supply is a hard choice, in game fort construction material just teleports.
They call it space Marines, I call it combined arms
OH, OH THAT'S GENIUS. All these years I was thinking that this achievement requires you to not capitulate, The only sad part is doing it in 1939 means one can't go for the One True Correct Path for Poland- which is PSL's Peasants Republic and Front Morges.
Hey! I know I’m a year late lol, but I just wanted to say that it’s genuinely appreciated that you said “self-inflicteded unaliving” at 13:57 instead of the original word. As someone suffering from ptsd related to that subject it feels very comforting to hear someone avoid that word. Really good video btw! I enjoyed it a lot ❤
Glad it was better for you
Hope things are improving for you!
You can set spies to automatically continue their previous task after missions
Incredible strategy. I was very hesitant to try this achievement due to the other method. But this strategy seems way more fun.
Give it a whirl and update how it went! I like to hear if it helped and it's informative for other people too.
Hmm, maybe I'll make a pinned comment where people can give advice/say how it went for them
@@hatless_spider So, I fired off the uprising in 1942 at first, but the Soviets had been pushed back too much. I then reloaded and launched it in November of 1941. I wasn't able to push and encircle the germans. But I was able to hold on to dear life by garrisoning in a circle around Wasaw and having Katowitz for the steel. Eventually the Germans/Axis tired themselves out and I was able to grind them to 1.8m casualties in a final push.
Definetly less tedious than the "typical" method, but I wasn't able to get it as cleanly as you did.
@Titop 222 nice thanks for the update!
Even if it wasn't as clean, a win is a win!
You ever just see the achievement and do it first try without any preparation
Only if the DLCs didn't cost so much that I will never buy any of them
Watch for the sales! You can get most of them very reasonably this way!
Wait I thought the actual Old way was the Warsaw Strategy.
Where you put all of your divisions on three provinces, Lodz, a plains tile and Warsaw Itself????
Yeah it was. But now after this strategy, all other ways are the old ways 😁
I succeeded in a similar challenge by surviving as belgium. It is surprisingly easy making a small defensive pocket with 1 port, waiting until american tanks land and then overruning the germans.
Lore of Don't go INSANE for 30 Minutes of Hel...DO THIS INSTEAD momentum 100
Imagine hitler going WDYM the entire Poland came back into existence
it is quite easy to read: W imieniu Polski podziemnej.
lol I totally still don’t know how
After seeing your borbon france video, i think it is viable too for napoleon even better where you can ask for military access from uk and us then avenge waterloo to quickly capitulate the allies, but i am struggling to find a way and the best timing to declare war on Germany (munich conference and poland cannot get me lowlands, i have not enough manpower to fight germany after it beat up the lowlands)and overwhelm themto get the warscores
I am gonna do this right now.
Ohhh yeahhhh brother!
@@hatless_spider Just got the achievement. I was not as smooth as your run after the uprising, but it was fun. Thanks!
@@wulle8509 very nice, good to hear!
What was difficult after the uprising?
@@hatless_spider I am still learning how to do effective micro, so it was much more of a slog to expand from the initial defensive circle. But other than that it worker perfectly.
@wu lle nice no worries!
I am just always curious to see how my strats do when put into practice!
I appreciate you telling me and trying it so quickly!
I prefer just holding that was very fun.
The original holding strat is still very cool, don't get me wrong!
But this at least provides an alternative to the last stand clickfest that I personally didn't want to do!
@@hatless_spider Not that strat, the strat of holding in the South is the one I mean.
@Tommuli Haudankaivaja ah yeah with releasing the czechs and Ukraine and all that. Definitely clever!
@@hatless_spider And a lot more fun than the original job.
This strategy seems way more historical to me
Interesting tank design, have you tried it with roof MGs for soft attack? Soft attack + armor absolutely shreds AI divisions
No, I wanted it as cheap as possible since we do still have some things we need to produce besides just tanks as poland.
If we add heavy mgs that would get us 8 more soft attack, but add 2 more IC to the cost.
I guess this extra cost would be reduced by 25% though, so maybe it's worth a try!
@@hatless_spider Heavy MGs are actually a good idea, maybe as the game goes later and you have a higher mil count, but I was talking about additional MGs, 1 SA and 2 defense for .5 production cost. Regardless though I really wanna try your build on a France game, it’s a cool idea
Dang Poland be popping out of Germany like a chest burster right in the middle of Barbarossa.
Poland Stronk!
Lol yeah it's straight out of alien
That was pretty cool
Thanks!
9:39 Tank design.
13:31 Division template.
Edit: 13:43 Div Templ.
I'm going to try this in the future
16:15
what do you think about trying to cap Slovakia so you would get their guns and some war effort
It could probably work yeah since they will have next to nothing there.
At least for this tutorial though, I wanted to keep it as uncomplicated as possible so it can be easily followed
@@hatless_spider i got you
he sounds like the burger king foot lettuce guy
*Thats why This video better than Feedbackgaming & TommyKay & Anothers. Cheaters & Exploits Only ignorants, Normal Play Only Real Gamers & Real Players & Real Pros.*
Thanks for video
For some reason I am not allowed to make resistance Contacts...
you might need la resistance dlc which enables that
@@hatless_spider i have every dlc
@@hatless_spider i did it, Thanks
> watches video
> replicates strat
> retreats to a circular fallback line
> each half of the polish army randomly decides to relocate to the respective other side of the country
> entrenchment is killed
> day ruined
I actually made a second strategy that didn't become as popular, but I feel like it works quite well and is still fun!
ua-cam.com/video/N1IARKZsJrM/v-deo.html
you should form al andalus and arabia with yemen. apparantly you can do both in the same run
I think you're thinking of Libya, which can do both.
Possibly you are thinking of how Yemen gets the highest population from forming Arabia, because other nations don't core it from the decision.
I watch Sejozwak too 😁
@@hatless_spider yeah i just saw it lmao i mixed them up hes great
@@hatless_spider also i saw in your saves you were doing monarchist macedonia? i remember i tried doing the greek monarchy path once and it just sucked so much i stopped before i finished the political tree. doing macedonia as monarchist greece sounds like even harder than normal fascist. good luck
@Quichrlyn yeah it's in the works.
I think I have the way down now but I still have more testing to do!
It really is probably the worst monarchist path in the game
@@hatless_spider is it harder than normal macedonia?
yes, self-inflicted un-aliving
This video earned you a sub:) such great content and nice voice:)
Welcome aboard!
@@hatless_spider nice to see refreshing good strategy , too many content creators just make stagnate content on hoi4
Hello there
General Kenobi
Witam!
Thanks Hatless, i tried this recently but the Warsaw Uprising never triggered and I keep strengthening resistance and it got all the way to 100%but sitll nothing
Wait, why is your icon House Forrester from that really bad Game of Thrones telltale game?
They're my favorite GoT house, and I love the crest and their house words.
I do need to create my own icon soon though!
Those who have no dlc🥲
Honestly the old method wasn't that bad. first attempt I was just learning while second attempt I got it when I knew what I was doing. Now crusader kings 2 is the true hel.
Hmm i don't even have this CK2 achievement!
Still lots for me to explore
@@hatless_spider You should try it, with your insane vids I'm sure you could get it easily.
Nice video,next time when you will Play on Poland ,Play pierwsza brygada song please :)
me with no dlc: 🗿
I started work on another method that should work without DLC!!
5:12 to 5:28 hmm, I think Britain would legit kick you out if you said that to them and if they had the option to drop the exiled government on the English channel lmao.
Lol well then I guess their stubbornness will lose them WW2!
😁😆
Polish too has undergone the very strange change of tr to č?!?!
Hey hatless just wanted to ask you something, are spy agencys necessary for the strat? I dont own la resistance and wondering if its worth going for it
Anyone have better info for this question?
Hmmm I'm actually not sure if it can function without la resistance. If the warsaw uprising can still happen regardless it should work though.
Maybe someone else here can tell you more.
@@hatless_spider I think the warsaw uprising can still happen, though I have never actually tried, but when I was trying for the achievement normally I could still do the uprising tree. Seems like it would just take ages more, so maybe its not worth it.
Sneaky, nice!
Trying this now. Thanks always dreaded this achievement but now I’m willing to try.
Did you stick with grand battle plan or switch to superior firepower?
I stayed with GBP for a while, then eventually switched over to Superior firepower once I had a good bank of xp
this doesnt work anymore, i cant select warsaw uprising.
Capitulation, just as planned😏.
Is it possible to bank all the manpower by queuing up a ton of units before you capitulate and then cancelling the training queue?
Yes, but we'll be getting our manpower back when we have the warsaw uprising, so it would be a bit redundant
@@hatless_spider Fair. Love this guide man, it's brilliant.
I don't understand... you got the 30 minutes of hel achievement AND had fun?
Does not compute!
Today Feedback gaming released a video about the old way...
My reaction to that:
Ok
😁😆
The older way which by doing the Warsaw strat.
The Technical New Way is to do the Krakow-Katowice Donut.
All divisions in a donut in Krakow, Katowice, the forest tile above Katowice and the tile beneath Krakow.
Hey I was just thinking, I'm not sure if this would work but, after you send all equipment to UK to keep it, why not also recruit a million divisions to keep as much manpower as possible?
Well when the uprising happens we get the manpower back regardless, so at that point there just isn't much need to retain manpower while in exile
what's the song name?
I was so excited to try this but then I learnt you need man the guns :(
Nooo!!
Well hopefully you can get it on sale at some point.
Watch for the next sale!
What was that song? Never heard it before
Jak szło wojsko raz ulicą - raz, dwa, trzy
@@hatless_spider I saw it in the description. Thanks by the way
I don't understand how a combined arms division suddenly started being called a space marine division. I literally larp as the US with infantry and tanks in one template. Hell the british did that before the US started doing it too.
It's an old HOI4 term for it at this point.
But yeah, it's an actual real life strategy too. France employed it although in their case it proved ineffective against the massed tanks of germany
@@hatless_spider In the US case, they had so many tanks they decided "F*** it!" and gave tanks to many infantry units like opera winfrey screaming "You get a car, and you get a car!" The US tank spam was so big, the germans didn't have enough ammo to take them all out.
Bro I capitulated Germany at 1.6 million ☠️☠️☠️
@@SwissAlboblah oof
What is the mod that makes that world mini map at the bottom right of your screen?
Since I don't even have HOI 4, but still quite a bit interested in history I don't understand, why players defending Poland don't want to extend the defensive perimeter along the Bug river and Carpathians, only stick to Vistula and Warta.
It would allow for more manpower and factories (from so called Centralny Okręg Przemysłowy, which on this map would span across provinces of Lublin, Kielce and Kraków) to be in control of Poland.
Essentially we need as small a perimeter as possible that still allows effective control over as much as possible.
I probably could have held more at the start with my method, but since it is a tutorial, I wanted to make it possible for as many people as possible to have success while following
Isn't Lodz-Warsaw line better than Krakow one?
Space marine doesn't work in current patches right?
@@rougechampion they are still very strong
@@hatless_spider oh wow ty. I'll take another look at your division template and give it a shot :)
and this polish song mmmmmmmmmmmmm
What was the song on the second half of the video?
Song name is in the description!
w guide
What doctrine are you using?😅
Is there an agency or button that influences how many Polish states rebel or is it vanilla that all of Poland rises? The latter would be meta gaming as the allies could flood in
[Edit] Why didn’t the Allies floor in btw? Other than Danzig being taken back by the Germans, you reckon it’s a viable strat too to let the allies flood in?
1. It is influenced by what Germany owns. So that is why I wanted them to reconquer all of poland if possible, so that my uprising can be bigger since soviets control eastern poland from molotov ribbentrop.
2. The allies actually can't get in due to denmark being held by germany, and thus the strait there is closed