I’m curious of Zaina’s profession because the way she handled Scotty without being combative while remaining stern was masterclass-level conflict management lol
Agreed!! Why Scotty soooooks: 1. "I'm sorry if you feel... " 🙄 Thanks for the non-apology bro. 2. Zaina clocking that she shouldn't leave her phone with him; including her middle-of-the-night 1 am bathroom breaks. 3. Everything else.
Scotty is a prime example of why some men like younger women; he’s able to seem more mature and aware with Aria but Zaina was able to correctly handle his tantrums, he then resorted to calling her old basically. Some men can’t deal with mature women because it exposes their shortcomings.
I just don’t like how JR showed up unsure he doesn’t want to marry Zaina but keep calling Sandy his wife like sir you a whole clown you just met her 3 weeks ago…
can't get the "her ex (nick) tryna talk to my wife" line out of jr's mouth... it made me sick like wtf you must be a mole or something NO FREAKING WAY ZAINA AND HIM ARE A REAL COUPLE 😭
@@lexx31691 he has much to learn. His general tone and style of interrogation has no place in a relationship. Shouting at your girlfriend at the bar, throwing a strop when his date suggestions aren't taken up etc. Shocking. That doesn't make him a bad person, but he has much work to do.
Zaina has SELF-REGULATION, BOUNDARIES & SELF-LOVE. No spoilers here, but I have to commend Zaina for the way she handled herself every single time Scotty was awfully manipulative and mean.
Exactly! Gaslighting, projecting, manipulating. He will literally flip a concern they bring up, get defensive, then accuse them of doing what they just expressed he does.
That facade dropped with the SWIFTNESS. I just hope Zaina leaves this single cause THESE DOPPELGANGERS.... Aria has dealt with this for THREE years?? Girl 😬
Scotty standing there with the death stare trying to intimidate her then, gaslight her like she was tripping. Scotty will eventually have Aria’s brother in jail b/c he gives number red flag. I would love to hear JR’s ex-wife’s side b/c something tells me he’s full of it. And, Nick’s inability to control his emotions is concerning. Aria, Zaina & Sandy should leave single.
Sandy literally seems to not like Nick when she’s around others but when with him, If you watch carefully, she actually passively love bombs and strings him along. She mostly says I love you, caresses him and goes in for a kiss first. He’s already unhinged but she strings him along and he’s not perceptive enough to see that she despises him
Scotty is just super creepy and scary. JR'S mouth says confidence but his body language screams insecure and needy. Zaina is clearly an emotionally secure woman who deserves better. Nick deserves therapy. Mariah...poor thing, she needs some time to herself to grow her independence. Sandy should leave alone. I like Aria and Caleb as a couple. The couples that left early wasted everyone's time.
Baby I started kicking my feet just looking at the clip 😊 when she complimented him and he returned it in then sum....my heart. If we get ONE thing out of this season maybe?
I was like damn, perfect time to kiss, but also knowing at the same time it wasn't because of everything. 😭 Please, Aria...go get you someone who treats you like this and RUN from Scotty!
Scotty is one step away from snapping badly and ending up on the ID Channel He is dangerous, and women are not safe around him. No matter the edit, those parts of him are true, and he can't help himself.
Nick is hella exhausting. Gives off super psycho boyfriend vibes. He manipulates that woman with his crocodile tears. The type of dude that will show up to her job to make sure she’s actually there and not out cheating or something. Sandy is no saint either but sheesh.
I saw Scotty`s interview on the Viall Files. He said the scene with Zaina was edited, but what about the other one and the other one my boy. Time to take some accountability.
@@maureen1031Nick's doing too much, he's way too explosive w her and then comes back sooo apologetic. like why come back to her if you still didn't wanna talk? i think sandy not being forthright about the second kiss was justified bc its like stepping into a minefield talking w nick😅
Sandy literally seems to not like Nick when she’s around others but when with him, If you watch carefully, she actually passively love bombs and strings him along. She mostly says I love you, caresses him and goes in for a kiss first. He’s already unhinged but she strings him along and he’s not perceptive enough to see that she despises him
Scotty is insecure and will make every woman in his life miserable by making her turn herself inside out to make him feel good. Aria looked so miserable in the beginning and now that she is with Caleb, she's smiling all the time. Scotty can blame the edit for how he comes off if he wants but Aria's own brother doesn't like him and he doesn't only know him through the show's edit so what's his excuse for that?
The look on Scotty's face when asking "Do you accept my apology?... Are you sure?" is very creepy! 😳😳 I am not insinuating that he's abusive, but coming from an abusive household, I see certain red flags. The manipulative question that he presented gives me pause 😳😳😳 Someone once revealed that a component of an abuser is the sense of entitlement and self-centeredness.... From the earlier episode, Scotty definitely shows a sense of entitlement
You can tell Sandy and JR are they're for the same thing. Let's get some legal cheating in!! Sandy is great at lying, making out with JR, and trashing Nick. It's almost scary how much she enjoys it. She's very manipulative and will somehow spin it into her being the victim.
The whole dinner scene during the switch over had me GAGGED severally thanks to JR… like sirrrrrrr you’re doing entirely TOOOOOOOOOO MUCHHHHHHH and Scott is CONSTANTLY PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE AND VERY COMBATIVE SO MUCH SO I MIGHT HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO TIM cos I thought the man was sassy but Scott said HOLD MY BEER ! wtf???? Zeina is so much better than me cos I COULD NEVERRRRR!!!!!😳😳😳
Uhm one thing I haven’t seen anyone clock is that JR also has this “fortune favors the bold” Latin phrase tattooed on his hands. JR mentions this when he meets Sandy’s family and friends. 😅 are we sure Nick didn’t do this on purpose to torture himself cause this is too much of a coincidence?
Scotty was doing the most for me this episode. The gaslighting from this man was crazy talking about how he wasn’t trying to accuse her but then makes comments that insinuates that he is basically accusing her of being the one that told JR he wanted a hall pass. It’s no wonder Aria is connecting emotionally with Caleb.
Caleb and Aria were so sweet! And they seemed to bring out the best in each other. Bring each other out of their shells. It was lovely to see. Also, idk if you clocked it, but did Nick look like he'd been in a fight when he showed up to the un-swapping of partners ceremony? He walked in lopsided with his shoulder almost up to his ear, and I swear it looks like one of his eyes has a green-yellow bruise around it. I NEED to know what happened there.
Finally someone pointed this out 👏🏻 Yes, JR showed that tattoo when meeting Sandy’s family. When I saw Nick getting THE SAME TATTOO I screamed. Sir, I will NOT believe that was a coincidence, that’s a crazy insecurity showing up. Therapy, not marriage for this man.
I doubt it was intentional. Its the male equivalent to having a "Live Laugh Love" tatoo. Its just that insanely basic of a tattoo that it makes you look like a NPC
@@aba1designThat would have been believable if he didn’t come up with some lie about a “surprise” tattoo. Every tattoo artist will show you the mock up on a stencil before they start, so you know exactly what you’re getting. It’s a total liability to give someone a tattoo they didn’t approve. That made him a complete WEIRDO
I don’t know how JR landed Zaina to begin with. The more we see, the more confused I get. A class act, through and through. My partner has been watching this season with me (he hates these shows) and got irritated with Scotty not even 5 minutes into his interrogation of Zaina in the kitchen. Said an emotionally immature man is a danger to society and asked if we could take a break. He was BOTHERED 😂🤣
11:07… YALL did y’all clock that he got JRs tattoo? At Sandy’s family dinner they were checking his tattoos and he has that on his hands. There’s no way to get a surprise tat, you have to check the stencil so Wtf is this?! 😭
I'm not sure I agree with you on Nick. Can you imagine having to sit in an apartment alone while the girl you want to marry is making out with someone else in bed. They have 0 empathy for Nick and not once has she stood up for him. They constantly trash him, it's like a bonding thing for them. I think nick should definitely leave the show single because she does not love that man. It's almost like she hates him.
I think Nick and Sandy are both at fault in their dynamic, just in different ways. Nick needs to learn how to regulate his emotions, full stop. The fear and extreme feelings around too damn much and he needs to understand how draining it is. For him and for the people around him. Sandy likes to throw rocks and hide her hands lol. She’s not dumb and she absolutely manipulates the truth to put herself in a better light. Watching how she interacted with Zaina at girl’s night disappointed me. Funny that she drew a comparison between her and Aria but Aria made it clear that she didn’t want Mariah to be caught off guard by anything she saw. Aria truly values honesty and transparency, despite how hard it is.
@diamcole i agree, but I also think the circumstances is what tipped Nick into a spiral. He was willing to apologize whereas JR and sandy are busy kicking him while he's down. Again, I think you should leave single and work on himself. Then find someone who actually likes him.
@@Sayithowitis15 Oh I 100% agree. Honestly just want Nick to get this under control because it's going to be a hinderance in other relationships and because I think he's solid enough of a guy to do better. I fully believe him when he said he was getting mixed messages from Sandy. I really don't like how she and JR essentially teamed up to make him sound like a monster. Like yeah, he overreacted to some degree but give the man some grace. He apologized immediately.
Scotty is awful, he’s so unkind, I hated the way he was speaking to Zaina, so manipulative and honestly triggering to watch, she’s such a sweet heart, the. Calling her old..
Scotty: *being aggy and questioning Zaina about JR* what I’m not accusing you of anything??? Scotty later: you’re on your phone at night so you must be talking to JR about me Scotty even later: no I wasn’t accusing you of anything?? Actually you’re gaslighting me and making yourself look bad. BROTHER HUH????
Do you really? The man doesn't even know if he wants to be married and have kids. He also seems to placate a lot which means he isn't being honest with himself 🫤
@@joanna0988I think he has insecurities about his self worth. It was mentioned multiple times that he thought he’d die alone because he doesn’t think he can be a good husband/dad which to me screams he doesn’t know his worth. That being said I do think he’s the best man on the show. He was beyond respectful to aria and Mariah in the trial marriage and I love his soft spoken voice approach he takes with his demeanor. I can see how he can be an avoider but yeah I don’t think he’s ready for marriage lol yet I think Mariah is just pushing a bit much like sis your 24 and only dated 2 years
Its disgusting how Scotty is such an entitled manchild and thinks hes gods gift to a woman because he had the ideal life "on paper".....he is like a guy bragging about healthy seed 😅 idk how to describe it but its corny and perplexing but its sat with me since he mentioned his upbringing
Scotty reminds me of my dad. I 100% relate to Aria and i hope her convo with her brother and relationship with Caleb allows her to see through Scotty’s bullshit
I said since ep 1, scotty wants a beard. Period. And JR is becoming the other man in Sandy's relationship. And it's funny how life works. His ex wifes infidelity is eating up JR. Yet, now he's living THAT role that the other man played in his marriage.
i just remember JR being petty with Nick during the coin game. From what we saw it seemed like JR had a problem with Nick first for whatever reason and it just continued to escalate from there
Honestly it seemed like during that scene she opened his eyes or something fr. He acted so different after that I think he realized conflicts have solutions or something for the convo between zaina and scottt
If you watch the ultimatum France this show looks weird. The way the couples are handling everything is disrespectful to their real partners and the way the audience is attacking Nick for rightfully being upset at his girlfriend cheating on him with JR is even weirder. On the ultimatum France they got into the new relationships and were very respectful to their real partners they knew the fake relationships were fake and didn’t put the fake relationship over the real ones. This 👆🏾 is weird
I agree! He definitely had a right to feel betrayed. She dealt with him so callously and to me it showed she doesn’t love/respect him. With that being said, Nick seems unhinged, he lacks self awareness and perceptiveness. Instead of seeing the real her, he showed the real him, which is obsessed with her and erratic (eg. getting JR’s identical Tattoo). Because of his behavior, the audience wasn’t able to focus on Sandy’s awful character and instead saw him as the issue.
Yes I just said this too! The France version, everyone has boundaries and respect no one was out here being a ‘JR and Sandy’ and I think most couples made it to marriage on that version - if I remember correctly
@@amarie9092 I really think JR and Sandy are so similar, not in a sweet way but both seem very selfish, inconsiderate, sadists and VERY deceptive. That night after Sandy left the Table bashing Nick, then went to the room and started making out with him confused me. Also, when she lied to Zaina about helping JR be better for her. Everything JR said seemed disingenuous so I won’t even touch on him.
@ at all!!! And the way JR cried to Sandy like “I thought what we had was real. Why would you tell me Zaina it wasn’t real 😢🥺” I just wanted to throw my coffee at the TV…but it’s also bittersweet seeing a player getting played. Over here crying to Sandy.
@@amarie9092 I don’t even think JR genuinely likes Sandy. I don’t believe anything he utters. He prolly just wanted to sell to her how much he “cares” by seeming hurt by what she said.
Scotty is an absolute clown, no lie. Zaïna is an ABSOLUTE baddie. She deserves better than these two dudes. So is Aria; please leave this dude alone. Clown 🤡
i feel like everyone watching the show is like damn none of us actually expected to ship anyone, let alone new couples, but omg caleb and aria - their dynamic is amazing and i hope we still get to see more in the rest of the show! I am so hyped for the reunion omg
I wouldn't be surprised if he holds onto his original negative feelings of his father to not deal with her take accountability because that should be a LEARNING moment for him and for him to do the opposite....nah he chooses to be like this
Scotty has a very narcissistic personality. He may want to head to therapy once he sees the playback. This could be a serious health issue. Aria needs to run the other direction.
Scotty is a Martell Holt....narcissists dont need to be on tv. Because they can't lie freely but that EGO gets 👏🏿 THEM 👏🏿 EVERY 👏🏿 TIME 👏🏿!! Gets them exsposing themselves and their natures 👀 Something funny about JR trying to prove their relationship when he isnt about posting or ppl knowing about his relationship. You look as unfaithful and untethered as you claim to want be seen as 🤷🏿♀️ i heard she aint got nothing of him online 😅.
And note, i heard some of this Ultimatum cast will be in the upcoming Perfect Match Season 3. I won't be surprised if its J.R, Sandy and Scotty on that show.
I’m watching now and what’s crazy is Scotty will see the rerun of this and will STILL think he was the almighty! He frustrated me so bad because I’ve seen this personally! To me, his ex is too sweet! She’s not as vocal, so he knows just how to beat her down to where she feels like nothing!
I just don't understand why Aria is still with Scotty or why Sandy is with Nick. The way they both complain after all these years, y'all should not be together!
Seeing Scotty bothered me. That whole convo at the start of the episode reminded me of myself for a two year span after college. This young man needs help. He’s not ready for a relationship and he needs a better relationship with himself as well.
I fell for a man like Scotty because of my dad. He was different in some ways, but he was just another type of narcissist. I wish I had been aware of it when we got together. Scotty is emotionally abusive. It’s wild to actually see it on TV. You’d think he’d hold back. Maybe this is how he is when he is holding back??? 😳 😱 I must say that this demonstrates how little insight someone like him has. How do they not see that they are doing it?! 😔
Zaina and JR aren’t in a relationship. They definitely already ended things and are just doing the show for clout. Also, JR has no reason to be holding Sandy hostage. If Nick wanted to see her he didn’t need to be so caught up and involved. If I were Nick I’d be annoyed with him too. He’s doing too much.
Then the way she looked at him was telling. She was clearly taken off guard by that grab. That was not an endearing pull, he was trying to take back control after she neutralized him. This dude needs help.
Omg both girls are smart and beautiful but unfortunately he is straight up NARCISSIST THIS IS CRAZY HOW HE MAKE THE COMMENTS AND THEN TURN IT ON HER I admire her she told him straight up your energy is heavy Both girls better run he is a narcissist unfortunately is how he act and the reactions he have 🙈
Nick need to get it together but jr I side eye cuz one he knows he wanna sleep with sandy nick knows they wanna sleep together. Compared to the other couples I don’t think anyone kissed but them lol jr need to let his girl go cuz why he keep playing in her face. Scotty needs help its givin bi polar or anger management
I’m curious of Zaina’s profession because the way she handled Scotty without being combative while remaining stern was masterclass-level conflict management lol
He tries to play and Zaina keeps winning. "Scotty" keeps trying to elevate himself
I was so impressed. As you say - a masterclass. Which is why I'm confused on her choice of JR.... She needs to level up.
Shes probably great at it because she deals with JR though too cuz hes pretty rude and combative as well when it comes to the group conversations.
@@adulray right! I was like I need a class!!
The Toxic People Management Department?😅
Tbh regardless of how the end of this show turns out... one thing for sure, Aria needs to RUN. Scotty is a walking red flag
Agreed!!
Why Scotty soooooks:
1. "I'm sorry if you feel... " 🙄 Thanks for the non-apology bro.
2. Zaina clocking that she shouldn't leave her phone with him; including her middle-of-the-night 1 am bathroom breaks.
3. Everything else.
Yes! He is a walking red flag!
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@@rhondazzle656 😂😂😂😂
Agree. Scotty loves Scotty. No room for anyone else
Scotty is a prime example of why some men like younger women; he’s able to seem more mature and aware with Aria but Zaina was able to correctly handle his tantrums, he then resorted to calling her old basically. Some men can’t deal with mature women because it exposes their shortcomings.
Yes!!!!
clock ittttt
Faaaaaacts
Spot on!!
I just don’t like how JR showed up unsure he doesn’t want to marry Zaina but keep calling Sandy his wife like sir you a whole clown you just met her 3 weeks ago…
Yeah, JR is doing too much. It's low key embarrassing
can't get the "her ex (nick) tryna talk to my wife" line out of jr's mouth... it made me sick like wtf you must be a mole or something NO FREAKING WAY ZAINA AND HIM ARE A REAL COUPLE 😭
@@emiemmsain’t no way.
@ I been seeing a lot of people saying they aren’t a real couple and I have to agree they were too happy to be with other people 😩
@@shaleesal.2060 doing way too much lol
Scotty told Zaina she was “making herself look bad.” I’m like WOW he has zero self awareness LOL
It was nonstop projection
@ it was so uncomfortable to watch. Anytime he showed up on screen I could feel my face change.
@@lexx31691 he has much to learn. His general tone and style of interrogation has no place in a relationship. Shouting at your girlfriend at the bar, throwing a strop when his date suggestions aren't taken up etc. Shocking. That doesn't make him a bad person, but he has much work to do.
@@lexx31691 right!? When he said that, I was like "that's crazy because I literally thought that about you" 😂
@@lexx31691 zero!!’
Zaina has SELF-REGULATION, BOUNDARIES & SELF-LOVE. No spoilers here, but I have to commend Zaina for the way she handled herself every single time Scotty was awfully manipulative and mean.
Zaina deescalated that situation so perfectly, left him with no place to go conversationally to deflect from his obvious aggression
Right. You can tell that he is use to going back and forth with Aria. Or feels like he’s “winning” because Aria will start crying.
EVERY SINGLE THING scotty says the women are doing is something he is ACTIVELY doing right that second... its insane.
Exactly! Gaslighting, projecting, manipulating. He will literally flip a concern they bring up, get defensive, then accuse them of doing what they just expressed he does.
Yes, it's called Projection. Narcissistic people usually do that.
he is a textbook narcissist
Yes!! Gaslighting King!!
All I’ve ever seen Scott do is gaslight and be aggressive ESPECIALLY with women
“I was one of two men to issue the ultimatum” is Scotty’s catchphrase, at this point it’s like once an episode. I’m tired
That facade dropped with the SWIFTNESS. I just hope Zaina leaves this single cause THESE DOPPELGANGERS....
Aria has dealt with this for THREE years?? Girl 😬
RIGHT they are both bad choices lol
Right! I said, ain’t no way!
Zaina handled herself with such maturity bc I would've been calling scotty everything but a child of God.
Scotty standing there with the death stare trying to intimidate her then, gaslight her like she was tripping. Scotty will eventually have Aria’s brother in jail b/c he gives number red flag. I would love to hear JR’s ex-wife’s side b/c something tells me he’s full of it. And, Nick’s inability to control his emotions is concerning. Aria, Zaina & Sandy should leave single.
you're right
Although I'm giving Sandy the biggest side-eye ever.
@@kimmyb504 he been divorced for over 5 years. No need to talk to his ex.
Sandy literally seems to not like Nick when she’s around others but when with him, If you watch carefully, she actually passively love bombs and strings him along. She mostly says I love you, caresses him and goes in for a kiss first. He’s already unhinged but she strings him along and he’s not perceptive enough to see that she despises him
Point blank period! Sandy doesn’t love Nick
I think she’s just careful that man seems sketchy
@@MandisaDizz89083 i’d even dare to say he repulses her. There were times when he would talk and you could kinda see the disgust on her face.
@@TS-yd6fzI saw that too. I was wondering, what is she using him for then? Maybe he s rich?
@@yt7377 I literally wanted to write that I bet there is some gain in it for her!
Scotty’s definitely sassy 💁♀️ like girl calm down 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@gracelocke5591 😂😂🤣🤣
Scotty master class in narcissistic gaslighting. Zaina master class in Ninja, check yourself.
Scotty is just super creepy and scary. JR'S mouth says confidence but his body language screams insecure and needy. Zaina is clearly an emotionally secure woman who deserves better. Nick deserves therapy. Mariah...poor thing, she needs some time to herself to grow her independence. Sandy should leave alone. I like Aria and Caleb as a couple. The couples that left early wasted everyone's time.
I LITERALLY TEARED UP WHEN ARIA & CALEB WERE ON THE BALCONY WATCHING THE SUNSET😭🩷
the watching the sunset scene 😭SOOOOO FUCKING CUTE
Baby I started kicking my feet just looking at the clip 😊 when she complimented him and he returned it in then sum....my heart. If we get ONE thing out of this season maybe?
Same girl 🥹
I was like damn, perfect time to kiss, but also knowing at the same time it wasn't because of everything. 😭
Please, Aria...go get you someone who treats you like this and RUN from Scotty!
I love them together
I cannot imagine even being friends with Scotty, let alone MARRY this dude.
Scotty is one step away from snapping badly and ending up on the ID Channel He is dangerous, and women are not safe around him. No matter the edit, those parts of him are true, and he can't help himself.
Preach!!
Everytime you say ‘Nick’, I hear Hanna from LIB in my head saying ‘I made you a man Neekkkk’😂😂
I heard it as I read your comment 😂
😂😂😂… I am hollering 😂😂😂😂
Me too! 😂😂😂
Screaming 🤣🤣 I had forgot about her
Nick is hella exhausting. Gives off super psycho boyfriend vibes. He manipulates that woman with his crocodile tears. The type of dude that will show up to her job to make sure she’s actually there and not out cheating or something. Sandy is no saint either but sheesh.
right? he seems emotionally unstable :/ sandy should just leave single
I saw Scotty`s interview on the Viall Files. He said the scene with Zaina was edited, but what about the other one and the other one my boy. Time to take some accountability.
😂😂
And the other one
It's giving lack of self-awareness and reflection
It’s giving child behavior
Aria, Sandy, and Zaina need to run and never look back.
Sandy?? 😂
@@maureen1031Nick's doing too much, he's way too explosive w her and then comes back sooo apologetic. like why come back to her if you still didn't wanna talk? i think sandy not being forthright about the second kiss was justified bc its like stepping into a minefield talking w nick😅
Sandy literally seems to not like Nick when she’s around others but when with him, If you watch carefully, she actually passively love bombs and strings him along. She mostly says I love you, caresses him and goes in for a kiss first. He’s already unhinged but she strings him along and he’s not perceptive enough to see that she despises him
Scotty is insecure and will make every woman in his life miserable by making her turn herself inside out to make him feel good. Aria looked so miserable in the beginning and now that she is with Caleb, she's smiling all the time. Scotty can blame the edit for how he comes off if he wants but Aria's own brother doesn't like him and he doesn't only know him through the show's edit so what's his excuse for that?
The look on Scotty's face when asking "Do you accept my apology?... Are you sure?" is very creepy! 😳😳 I am not insinuating that he's abusive, but coming from an abusive household, I see certain red flags. The manipulative question that he presented gives me pause 😳😳😳
Someone once revealed that a component of an abuser is the sense of entitlement and self-centeredness.... From the earlier episode, Scotty definitely shows a sense of entitlement
Zaina handled it so well because Scotty woulda got cussed out so bad 😩
Scotty is so annoying and he is so bothered by everything. Both girls need to run away from him he don’t even notice his behavior red flags.
You can tell Sandy and JR are they're for the same thing. Let's get some legal cheating in!! Sandy is great at lying, making out with JR, and trashing Nick. It's almost scary how much she enjoys it. She's very manipulative and will somehow spin it into her being the victim.
The way Scotty gives the evil eye 😮 It makes me feel uncomfortable just watching it.
The whole dinner scene during the switch over had me GAGGED severally thanks to JR… like sirrrrrrr you’re doing entirely TOOOOOOOOOO MUCHHHHHHH and Scott is CONSTANTLY PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE AND VERY COMBATIVE SO MUCH SO I MIGHT HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO TIM cos I thought the man was sassy but Scott said HOLD MY BEER ! wtf???? Zeina is so much better than me cos I COULD NEVERRRRR!!!!!😳😳😳
Uhm one thing I haven’t seen anyone clock is that JR also has this “fortune favors the bold” Latin phrase tattooed on his hands. JR mentions this when he meets Sandy’s family and friends. 😅 are we sure Nick didn’t do this on purpose to torture himself cause this is too much of a coincidence?
Ok. I knew that I wasn’t tripping.
This is so weird
Exactlyyyy! Nick is such a weirdo for that forreal!
Scotty was doing the most for me this episode. The gaslighting from this man was crazy talking about how he wasn’t trying to accuse her but then makes comments that insinuates that he is basically accusing her of being the one that told JR he wanted a hall pass. It’s no wonder Aria is connecting emotionally with Caleb.
Caleb and Aria were so sweet! And they seemed to bring out the best in each other. Bring each other out of their shells. It was lovely to see.
Also, idk if you clocked it, but did Nick look like he'd been in a fight when he showed up to the un-swapping of partners ceremony? He walked in lopsided with his shoulder almost up to his ear, and I swear it looks like one of his eyes has a green-yellow bruise around it. I NEED to know what happened there.
Nick’s tattoo is a literal copy of JR’s tattoo, in Latin & all. That’s actually crazy, like institutional.
Wait what!?!?!?
Finally someone pointed this out 👏🏻 Yes, JR showed that tattoo when meeting Sandy’s family. When I saw Nick getting THE SAME TATTOO I screamed. Sir, I will NOT believe that was a coincidence, that’s a crazy insecurity showing up. Therapy, not marriage for this man.
I doubt it was intentional. Its the male equivalent to having a "Live Laugh Love" tatoo. Its just that insanely basic of a tattoo that it makes you look like a NPC
@@aba1design😅
@@aba1designThat would have been believable if he didn’t come up with some lie about a “surprise” tattoo. Every tattoo artist will show you the mock up on a stencil before they start, so you know exactly what you’re getting. It’s a total liability to give someone a tattoo they didn’t approve. That made him a complete WEIRDO
Sometimes a girl just wants to scroll on TikTok at 1am while she takes care of business. And what?
RIGHT?! not you monitoring my screen time 🤣🤣 I can't with him
RIGHT?! not you monitoring my screen time 🤣🤣 I can't with him.
like helloooo??
But JR and Sandy seem to have slept together and are lying, which I do think matters though Nick's behavior is still inexcusable
I don’t know how JR landed Zaina to begin with. The more we see, the more confused I get. A class act, through and through.
My partner has been watching this season with me (he hates these shows) and got irritated with Scotty not even 5 minutes into his interrogation of Zaina in the kitchen. Said an emotionally immature man is a danger to society and asked if we could take a break. He was BOTHERED 😂🤣
11:07… YALL did y’all clock that he got JRs tattoo? At Sandy’s family dinner they were checking his tattoos and he has that on his hands. There’s no way to get a surprise tat, you have to check the stencil so Wtf is this?! 😭
I'm not sure I agree with you on Nick. Can you imagine having to sit in an apartment alone while the girl you want to marry is making out with someone else in bed. They have 0 empathy for Nick and not once has she stood up for him. They constantly trash him, it's like a bonding thing for them. I think nick should definitely leave the show single because she does not love that man. It's almost like she hates him.
I think Nick and Sandy are both at fault in their dynamic, just in different ways. Nick needs to learn how to regulate his emotions, full stop. The fear and extreme feelings around too damn much and he needs to understand how draining it is. For him and for the people around him.
Sandy likes to throw rocks and hide her hands lol. She’s not dumb and she absolutely manipulates the truth to put herself in a better light. Watching how she interacted with Zaina at girl’s night disappointed me. Funny that she drew a comparison between her and Aria but Aria made it clear that she didn’t want Mariah to be caught off guard by anything she saw. Aria truly values honesty and transparency, despite how hard it is.
@diamcole i agree, but I also think the circumstances is what tipped Nick into a spiral. He was willing to apologize whereas JR and sandy are busy kicking him while he's down. Again, I think you should leave single and work on himself. Then find someone who actually likes him.
@@Sayithowitis15 Oh I 100% agree. Honestly just want Nick to get this under control because it's going to be a hinderance in other relationships and because I think he's solid enough of a guy to do better. I fully believe him when he said he was getting mixed messages from Sandy. I really don't like how she and JR essentially teamed up to make him sound like a monster. Like yeah, he overreacted to some degree but give the man some grace. He apologized immediately.
@diamcole i think you're a spot on! I think we can both agree that this drama definitely brings more viewers and is good for the show.😁
Scotty has a creepy stare like Joe from You when he gets upset. That mofo crazy.
Scotty is awful, he’s so unkind, I hated the way he was speaking to Zaina, so manipulative and honestly triggering to watch, she’s such a sweet heart, the. Calling her old..
Scotty: *being aggy and questioning Zaina about JR* what I’m not accusing you of anything???
Scotty later: you’re on your phone at night so you must be talking to JR about me
Scotty even later: no I wasn’t accusing you of anything?? Actually you’re gaslighting me and making yourself look bad.
BROTHER HUH????
ugh i want a Caleb...God when 😩
Do you really? The man doesn't even know if he wants to be married and have kids. He also seems to placate a lot which means he isn't being honest with himself 🫤
@@joanna0988ooouu points are made
@@joanna0988I think he has insecurities about his self worth. It was mentioned multiple times that he thought he’d die alone because he doesn’t think he can be a good husband/dad which to me screams he doesn’t know his worth. That being said I do think he’s the best man on the show. He was beyond respectful to aria and Mariah in the trial marriage and I love his soft spoken voice approach he takes with his demeanor. I can see how he can be an avoider but yeah I don’t think he’s ready for marriage lol yet I think Mariah is just pushing a bit much like sis your 24 and only dated 2 years
@@Daveyjonesvi Yup I agree, he's definitely the least problematic man on the show 😅
Is it just me or does Zaina kind of resemble ashley tisdale?
Wooooooooah!!! I can’t unsee it now 🤯
Doppelgänger
Also looks like cardi b
Oh ya I could see that.
@@victoriaigwenwanne1665yeah she gives me cardi b heavy
Its disgusting how Scotty is such an entitled manchild and thinks hes gods gift to a woman because he had the ideal life "on paper".....he is like a guy bragging about healthy seed 😅 idk how to describe it but its corny and perplexing but its sat with me since he mentioned his upbringing
Scotty reminds me of my dad. I 100% relate to Aria and i hope her convo with her brother and relationship with Caleb allows her to see through Scotty’s bullshit
Scotty is scary. These women are PATIENT
Scotty fights like a spiteful woman. I wonder who taught him that. 🤔
I bet he's the last born in his family and has older sisters.
Throw away all the men plus Sandy.
Exactly!
I said since ep 1, scotty wants a beard. Period.
And JR is becoming the other man in Sandy's relationship. And it's funny how life works. His ex wifes infidelity is eating up JR. Yet, now he's living THAT role that the other man played in his marriage.
Zaina clocked his tea, I was really impressed
He literally came at her sassy, claimed he wasn't THEN turned around to say there is a reason she's bring interrogated....
😬 Episode 1.....
Nothing worse than a "nonchalant" passive aggressive dismissive AGGRESSIVE man. Lawd. Aria doesn't need to be in the same ROOM with him
He's DARVO in action
Scotty is sooo scary!!! I was literally so triggered by him 😅😅😅
i just remember JR being petty with Nick during the coin game. From what we saw it seemed like JR had a problem with Nick first for whatever reason and it just continued to escalate from there
Zaina needs to run and block that man from every angle .
Scotty the gaslighter is staying someone is gaslighting him. lol.
Thanks, Queen E. You're amazing!! I have not watched one episode this season. I feel like I know each couple from watching your reviews.
Honestly it seemed like during that scene she opened his eyes or something fr. He acted so different after that I think he realized conflicts have solutions or something for the convo between zaina and scottt
Caleb is a dream. The rest of the cast not so much
Mariah is just nice. They make a great couple
Caleb gives I’m holding it all in and might snap any second.
@@MSmith-qg1ohi don’t think he’d snap but more so be an avoider and shut down
@@Daveyjonesvithat's exactly it
We definitely needed to see more of Caleb
😂 the snort laugh, I love it
If you watch the ultimatum France this show looks weird. The way the couples are handling everything is disrespectful to their real partners and the way the audience is attacking Nick for rightfully being upset at his girlfriend cheating on him with JR is even weirder. On the ultimatum France they got into the new relationships and were very respectful to their real partners they knew the fake relationships were fake and didn’t put the fake relationship over the real ones. This 👆🏾 is weird
I agree! He definitely had a right to feel betrayed. She dealt with him so callously and to me it showed she doesn’t love/respect him. With that being said, Nick seems unhinged, he lacks self awareness and perceptiveness. Instead of seeing the real her, he showed the real him, which is obsessed with her and erratic (eg. getting JR’s identical Tattoo). Because of his behavior, the audience wasn’t able to focus on Sandy’s awful character and instead saw him as the issue.
Yes I just said this too! The France version, everyone has boundaries and respect no one was out here being a ‘JR and Sandy’ and I think most couples made it to marriage on that version - if I remember correctly
@@amarie9092 I really think JR and Sandy are so similar, not in a sweet way but both seem very selfish, inconsiderate, sadists and VERY deceptive. That night after Sandy left the Table bashing Nick, then went to the room and started making out with him confused me. Also, when she lied to Zaina about helping JR be better for her. Everything JR said seemed disingenuous so I won’t even touch on him.
@ at all!!! And the way JR cried to Sandy like “I thought what we had was real. Why would you tell me Zaina it wasn’t real 😢🥺” I just wanted to throw my coffee at the TV…but it’s also bittersweet seeing a player getting played. Over here crying to Sandy.
@@amarie9092 I don’t even think JR genuinely likes Sandy. I don’t believe anything he utters. He prolly just wanted to sell to her how much he “cares” by seeming hurt by what she said.
Scotty is an absolute clown, no lie. Zaïna is an ABSOLUTE baddie. She deserves better than these two dudes.
So is Aria; please leave this dude alone. Clown 🤡
i feel like everyone watching the show is like damn none of us actually expected to ship anyone, let alone new couples, but omg caleb and aria - their dynamic is amazing and i hope we still get to see more in the rest of the show! I am so hyped for the reunion omg
Aria'a sister-in-law said a 1000 words without opening her mouth!
Scotty comes across like a brat
Remember his dumb ass excuse that he was loved too much as a child so he hates rejection, my guy PLEASE be seriousssss
I wouldn't be surprised if he holds onto his original negative feelings of his father to not deal with her take accountability because that should be a LEARNING moment for him and for him to do the opposite....nah he chooses to be like this
@GG. And not the "ugh 🙄" kind of brat, but the "yikes 😬" one.
Scotty has a very narcissistic personality. He may want to head to therapy once he sees the playback. This could be a serious health issue.
Aria needs to run the other direction.
Scotty Is Tim from LIB.
Scotty is a Martell Holt....narcissists dont need to be on tv. Because they can't lie freely but that EGO gets 👏🏿 THEM 👏🏿 EVERY 👏🏿 TIME 👏🏿!! Gets them exsposing themselves and their natures 👀
Something funny about JR trying to prove their relationship when he isnt about posting or ppl knowing about his relationship. You look as unfaithful and untethered as you claim to want be seen as 🤷🏿♀️ i heard she aint got nothing of him online 😅.
Am I tripping, or did Nick get the same tattoo that JR has on his hands? I feel like I remember JR saying that to Sandy’s mom.
And note, i heard some of this Ultimatum cast will be in the upcoming Perfect Match Season 3. I won't be surprised if its J.R, Sandy and Scotty on that show.
I’m watching now and what’s crazy is Scotty will see the rerun of this and will STILL think he was the almighty! He frustrated me so bad because I’ve seen this personally! To me, his ex is too sweet! She’s not as vocal, so he knows just how to beat her down to where she feels like nothing!
Wow. Scotty is man child. I need him to leave this show with nobody
The edit…? You still had to say those things and make those faces, though! Scotty is a joke.
I just don't understand why Aria is still with Scotty or why Sandy is with Nick. The way they both complain after all these years, y'all should not be together!
Seeing Scotty bothered me. That whole convo at the start of the episode reminded me of myself for a two year span after college. This young man needs help. He’s not ready for a relationship and he needs a better relationship with himself as well.
Scotty is definitely sassy! Accurate description. I don’t like how he speaks to women at all.
Love that phone background. Cute!
Honestly.. can we first give you your flowers?? Because you are giving top notch content🔥🔥🔥😎😎
Now.. Aria, Sandy and Zaina RUN 🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️🏃🏾♀️
Mate, she is good to be staying there talking to this man. I would have walked out
Scotty you got issues mate.
Scotty’s character can be quite questionable at times is what I have seen thus far…
Nah Scotties/Scotty's behavior was gross here
JR is a simp. CONFIRMED
I fell for a man like Scotty because of my dad. He was different in some ways, but he was just another type of narcissist. I wish I had been aware of it when we got together. Scotty is emotionally abusive. It’s wild to actually see it on TV. You’d think he’d hold back. Maybe this is how he is when he is holding back??? 😳 😱 I must say that this demonstrates how little insight someone like him has. How do they not see that they are doing it?! 😔
Zaina and JR aren’t in a relationship. They definitely already ended things and are just doing the show for clout. Also, JR has no reason to be holding Sandy hostage. If Nick wanted to see her he didn’t need to be so caught up and involved. If I were Nick I’d be annoyed with him too. He’s doing too much.
Nick's tattoo 😅😅😅😅
He is a MESS! Just a mess that drags others along with his emotions. Draining and Exhausting!
What song is playing at the beginning of the episode??
Doesn't JR's tattoo say "Fortune Favors the Bold"? Or is that someone else besides Nick.
Scotty grabbed her wrist when she walked away was so intense... the wrist the one of the most vulnerable part the the body. Get out of here with that.
Then the way she looked at him was telling. She was clearly taken off guard by that grab. That was not an endearing pull, he was trying to take back control after she neutralized him. This dude needs help.
Sandy DOES NOT like Nick
I do not like Scotty. He is triggering me, reminds me of my ex.
Scotty and JR desperately need to kiss each other
Hey queen E❤
Omg both girls are smart and beautiful but unfortunately he is straight up NARCISSIST THIS IS CRAZY HOW HE MAKE THE COMMENTS AND THEN TURN IT ON HER I admire her she told him straight up your energy is heavy Both girls better run he is a narcissist unfortunately is how he act and the reactions he have 🙈
Nick need to get it together but jr I side eye cuz one he knows he wanna sleep with sandy nick knows they wanna sleep together. Compared to the other couples I don’t think anyone kissed but them lol jr need to let his girl go cuz why he keep playing in her face. Scotty needs help its givin bi polar or anger management
Scootie is psycho
The women are BEAUTIFUL ❤
I’ll marry Zaina anyday!