So funny I’ve got a d’angelico semi hollow and if i turn the bridge pickup right down then switch to the middle position it acts like a volume cut for comping but this only seems to work on my guitar other 2 humbucker guitars doesn’t seem to do it
Here’s the beauty of Martino’s genius. He saw two chord structures as: “Symmetrical Parental Forms”. 1) The Augmented triad (1-3-#5) can be visualized as an equilateral triangle (3x4=12, or 3 major thirds). Play 554 on GBE for C+. LOWER any of those notes one fret; you will “parent” 3 different MAJOR triads (E-G# and C). Instead, RAISE any of those C+ notes by one fret, now you will parent 3 different MINOR triads. - So 6 other triads from that one Augmented parent. Got it? (Edit: also the 3 Minor triads are the RELATIVE MINOR TRIADS of those 3 MAJOR TRIADS. - So C+ parents C/Am by moving the high E; C+ parents Ab/Fm by moving the B string; and C+ parents E/C#m by moving the G string. So not only does the Augmented triad parent 3 Major triads and 3 Minor triads but they are the RELATIVE MINOR TRIADS.) (End of the edit.) 2) The Diminished 7th chord (1-b3-b5-bb7) can be visualized as a perfect square (4x3=12, or 4 minor thirds). Play 4545 on DGBE for a Dim7 chord named for any of those root notes. Flatten any one note? Parent 4 different Dom7 chords. Sharpen any one note? Parent 4 different Half-Dim7 chords (min7b5). - So 8 other 7th chords are easily parented by that one easy-to-grab Dim7 parent. Cool eh? Martino was a genius who saw the fretboard differently (more correctly). - Anyone who spent time learning inversions of triads and of 7th chords should appreciate how much Martino’s approach “unlocks” the instrument. He also has much to teach us about the “zen” of guitar, of music, and of life.
@@nickwright8720 Piano inversions require different hand "shapes" for each chord. This is because the arrangement of the keys isn't purely symmetrical. The guitar is symmetrical in the sense that frets are frets, there are no black or white frets. Augmented and diminished chords are also symmetrical. (As explained, 3x4 and 4x3). This means that inversions of augmented and diminished chords can be played using the same shape and moving it up the fretboard. Aug and dim chords are only small changes away from a large variety of different chords. This method of understanding inversions on the guitar allows you to really understand what a chord "shape" means in the context of inversions. For example, if you know all your open chord shapes. Play the augmented triad described above on the top three strings. Move one of the notes down a half-step and see that the major open chord shapes of D, A, and E arise. You can work through the other variations that are described too. Other symmetries that are applicable to guitar are whole tones (symmetries of whole steps), chromatics (half-steps), quartal voicings, and octaves. These are all things that are easier to play on the guitar than on the piano due to the guitar's symmetrical nature. Martino also has this way of combining octaves and chromatics thats pretty cool.
@@richardwangYou are welcome! As a now-retired teacher, I found that there’s no better way to come to an understanding of something than to try to teach it to someone else. Martino was an absolute genius!
Hi. Sorry. I'm a big fan of Pat Martino's story. It really inspired me. You wouldn't happen to know if he was still reading music after his brain injury would you?
First thing....congratulations to the camera person while film Pat play the first tune. Most camera people don't have a clue what interests the viewer concerning guitar. I'm 64. First heard Pat on the "Live!" album when I was 13. For me, Pat is a jazz prophet. He is the vessel for the music that comes through him. Yes, he's passed into the next plane of existence. but we have the sonic breadcrumbs leading us to the source.
I have his dvd from truefire...great and hours and hours of work to do....awesome....don't have to buy the dvd...go to truefire and sample some for free...
Pat is one of my favorite jazz guitarist. I’ve used a book of transcriptions of him to help me with jazz. I am not a great guitarist and have really struggled to learn jazz. I have a problem sometimes understanding his philosophy of guitar with the three and four and vertical horizontal and how it applies. Maybe because that’s not how I learned to think about guitar. All I can do is sit back and admire the genius that is Pat Martino. Btw, “Think Tank” is one of my favorite albums. Thanks for this!
Great presentation, Dave. You handled everything with class and allowed Pat to delve fairly deep without making it awkward or off track. Being professional and personal at the same time is an art form all in itself and you pulled it off nicely.
The correlation of life and one’s life experience is in your hands. The expression is the freedom to share that with others and the joy it brings. RIP Pat Martino
Just seeing him walk out when introduced brought me to tears ! What a lovely guy and an absolute monster on guitar . Just listen to his solo on Sunny from the album in the seventies… Stunning!
Pat is such an inspiration. If you look up his background you'll note that he had a terrible brain aneurysm back in the early 80s that left him with total memory loss of playing the guitar. He had to reteach himself and developed his vertical/horizontal/thirds theory as a result. I still don't quite fathom what that theory is. Interesting that his melodic motifs based on interval relationships with the alphabets of words was a technique used by classical composers. The man is brilliant, not to mention a great jazz guitarist.
Just watched the documentary, apparently the hypothesis is that because he had such a large tumor that had been stealing blood from and otherwise disrupting the function of surrounding tissues that his brain had rerouted those functions at an early age, in his childhood and adolescents, and his tumor might even account for his approach to the instrument and music generally
"My greatest exercise for developing technique is precision itself"! What a statement and when you think about it, yeah precision will demand technique. So cool.
This is pretty incredible, how his mind works and how he integrates all awareness/perception/knowledge/information into musical possibilities, a truly unique cat, musically and otherwise. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for writing Miles, please enjoy a visit to the master class archive at www.davefrankjazz.com, there are currently 44 of these in-depth classes, all free for you) Hi from NYC!
I lost my Mom before covid but She had dementia, She was an incredible artist and classical pianist. Love Your playing and interviewing style. Rip Pat Martino
The first time I heard Pat was in Pittsburgh at a club called the Hurricane. He was playing with Sonny Stitt with don Patterson on organ and Billy James on drums. He soloed on a very uptempo tune and I was amazed at his ability to say so much at that speed. I stayed till the gig was over and asked Pat if I could spend some time with him. He said "sure come up to my room at the Hotel Ellis. (What a great human being) He played things there that were even more incredible. His kindness overcame my sense of awe. I left there in the morning at sunrise. That's Pat Martino.
I have all of pats books and don't completely understand his concept of everything deriving from the guitar's diminished voicings. I've taken all of the theory course my undergrad has to offer but this still twist my mind a bit. pat is in a league of his own.
Man, I love Pat's playing. I'm a Pat fanatic but one thing I must say, don't be confused by his spiritual development now and his path to getting there i.e. "the instrument should not be an addiction.". Well, didn't he say his parents had to wake him up off the table to go to bed? Didn't he say he was told he spent about 18 hours with practice or being in a musically environment? These are the type of things that confuse some students. It's still all about doing homework first. Enlightenment comes later. Get his course, study it, meditate on it and get enlighten. LOL. He tried to pull a nice one on us with Giant Steps...
I believe Pat meant about being so addicted to music, and progressing, he missed out on essential life events. Especially earlier on, while learning the craft. You realize this as you get older...
Thanks so much Dave! Pat’s approach to the guitar and existence in general is so refreshing and encouraging, an absolute inspiration for those who seek the truth in their own heart. Words are not enough, but rest assured the universe is listening- thanks again and much love 🥰
As grateful as I am to Pat for this invaluable insight into music, jazz, philosophy & life itself, I thank Dave for allowing this session to flow naturally, unhindered. Deeply moved & inspired by you gentlemen. My eternal thanks.
thanks for writing Brooce, pleeze enjoy a visit to the master class archive at www.davefrankjazz.com, there are currently 36 in-depth classes, all free for thee)
On Opposites: “Being there on time, with nothing… and clearing my mind…and pay attention to one thing at a time…..whats placed before me…. and do so with precision” vs. “We’re not always concerned about what we’re asked to do. Sometime we’re so absorbed… and… taken by what we want to do next… that what we’re asked to do seems to be in the way if it, and we try and get it done as quickly as we possibly can…and by doing that…we enter mediocrity…..automatically’” Wisdom, Thanks Pat
Dave, that was an OUTSTANDING rendition of Lean Years. I find this d-minor tune particularly challenging on the keyboard because of the modulations to e-flat minor then d-flat minor, back to d-minor. The adjacent tonal centers makes the mental and fingering changes difficult to move between... at least, for me.
Every time I feel completely useless, I remember, that Pat Martino´s guitar has a bridge pickup.
Ha
It actually has a use... to kill switch the guitar ;)
Greatest UA-cam comment ever
So funny I’ve got a d’angelico semi hollow and if i turn the bridge pickup right down then switch to the middle position it acts like a volume cut for comping but this only seems to work on my guitar other 2 humbucker guitars doesn’t seem to do it
@@JamesDaSilvamusic thanks man
“Study what gives you joy” Volumes in one sentence
I love how Frank tried to advertise Pat's lesson and then Pat just was like screw the lessons and went full philosophy.
He sounded like Immanuel Kant.
I always wanted to learn guitar but I'm not good at math and I'm not familiar with Chinese philosophy.
Here’s the beauty of Martino’s genius.
He saw two chord structures as:
“Symmetrical Parental Forms”.
1) The Augmented triad (1-3-#5) can be visualized as an equilateral triangle (3x4=12, or 3 major thirds).
Play 554 on GBE for C+.
LOWER any of those notes one fret;
you will “parent” 3 different MAJOR triads (E-G# and C).
Instead, RAISE any of those C+ notes by one fret, now you will parent 3 different MINOR triads.
- So 6 other triads from that one Augmented parent. Got it?
(Edit: also the 3 Minor triads are the RELATIVE MINOR TRIADS of those 3 MAJOR TRIADS. - So C+ parents C/Am by moving the high E; C+ parents Ab/Fm by moving the B string; and C+ parents E/C#m by moving the G string. So not only does the Augmented triad parent 3 Major triads and 3 Minor triads but they are the RELATIVE MINOR TRIADS.) (End of the edit.)
2) The Diminished 7th chord (1-b3-b5-bb7) can be visualized as a perfect square (4x3=12, or 4 minor thirds).
Play 4545 on DGBE for a Dim7 chord named for any of those root notes.
Flatten any one note?
Parent 4 different Dom7 chords.
Sharpen any one note?
Parent 4 different Half-Dim7 chords (min7b5).
- So 8 other 7th chords are easily parented by that one easy-to-grab Dim7 parent.
Cool eh?
Martino was a genius who saw the fretboard differently (more correctly).
- Anyone who spent time learning inversions of triads and of 7th chords should appreciate how much Martino’s approach “unlocks” the instrument.
He also has much to teach us about the “zen” of guitar, of music, and of life.
Please elaborate ☝️👏🙏👍🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
thanks for the explanation, the diagram was kinda confusing
@@nickwright8720 Piano inversions require different hand "shapes" for each chord. This is because the arrangement of the keys isn't purely symmetrical.
The guitar is symmetrical in the sense that frets are frets, there are no black or white frets. Augmented and diminished chords are also symmetrical. (As explained, 3x4 and 4x3). This means that inversions of augmented and diminished chords can be played using the same shape and moving it up the fretboard. Aug and dim chords are only small changes away from a large variety of different chords. This method of understanding inversions on the guitar allows you to really understand what a chord "shape" means in the context of inversions.
For example, if you know all your open chord shapes. Play the augmented triad described above on the top three strings. Move one of the notes down a half-step and see that the major open chord shapes of D, A, and E arise. You can work through the other variations that are described too.
Other symmetries that are applicable to guitar are whole tones (symmetries of whole steps), chromatics (half-steps), quartal voicings, and octaves. These are all things that are easier to play on the guitar than on the piano due to the guitar's symmetrical nature. Martino also has this way of combining octaves and chromatics thats pretty cool.
You still have to learn the tune.
@@richardwangYou are welcome!
As a now-retired teacher, I found that there’s no better way to come to an understanding of something than to try to teach it to someone else.
Martino was an absolute genius!
I studied with Pat in 1982. I learned more about music in 6 1hour lessons than I did with other teachers. He was a guru.
Hi. Sorry. I'm a big fan of Pat Martino's story. It really inspired me. You wouldn't happen to know if he was still reading music after his brain injury would you?
You are a lucky man.
Wow! The level of musicianship here is absolutely stellar.
Very true
First thing....congratulations to the camera person while film Pat play the first tune. Most camera people don't have a clue what interests the viewer concerning guitar. I'm 64. First heard Pat on the "Live!" album when I was 13. For me, Pat is a jazz prophet. He is the vessel for the music that comes through him. Yes, he's passed into the next plane of existence. but we have the sonic breadcrumbs leading us to the source.
Pat Martino is a guitar god…his continuous and constant picking speed is really amazing!!
Pat Martino, What an amazing man. This is the first i've heard of him. He's an absolute genius in my mind.
I have his dvd from truefire...great and hours and hours of work to do....awesome....don't have to buy the dvd...go to truefire and sample some for free...
Where have you been?
Such a Gentleman. This man here is the real deal.
Guitar Man haha
Pat is one of my favorite jazz guitarist. I’ve used a book of transcriptions of him to help me with jazz. I am not a great guitarist and have really struggled to learn jazz. I have a problem sometimes understanding his philosophy of guitar with the three and four and vertical horizontal and how it applies. Maybe because that’s not how I learned to think about guitar. All I can do is sit back and admire the genius that is Pat Martino.
Btw, “Think Tank” is one of my favorite albums.
Thanks for this!
This is how my guitar instructor gave lessons. He spoke about the genome of music and higher concepts before we ever went over exercises.
This is so inspiring! What a great human being.
Great presentation, Dave. You handled everything with class and allowed Pat to delve fairly deep without making it awkward or off track. Being professional and personal at the same time is an art form all in itself and you pulled it off nicely.
thank you for writing) Please enjoy a visit to the master class archive at davefrankjazz.com for 56 in-depth master classes, all free for thee)
The correlation of life and one’s life experience is in your hands. The expression is the freedom to share that with others and the joy it brings.
RIP Pat Martino
OMG I really wish I met him but it's too late 11.1.21RIP
It goes to show that if we have a chance to see these great do it.
Just seeing him walk out when introduced brought me to tears ! What a lovely guy and an absolute monster on guitar . Just listen to his solo on Sunny from the album in the seventies… Stunning!
Wonderful-Thank you!
Love this!!!
Excellent !
Wow! This is just pure gold right here... Can´t wait for what is next!
Pat is such an inspiration. If you look up his background you'll note that he had a terrible brain aneurysm back in the early 80s that left him with total memory loss of playing the guitar. He had to reteach himself and developed his vertical/horizontal/thirds theory as a result. I still don't quite fathom what that theory is. Interesting that his melodic motifs based on interval relationships with the alphabets of words was a technique used by classical composers. The man is brilliant, not to mention a great jazz guitarist.
Just watched the documentary, apparently the hypothesis is that because he had such a large tumor that had been stealing blood from and otherwise disrupting the function of surrounding tissues that his brain had rerouted those functions at an early age, in his childhood and adolescents, and his tumor might even account for his approach to the instrument and music generally
FANTASTIC
Thanks for the class
What a brilliant man. Such an insightful masterclass. Thank you, Pat and Dave!
thank you so much, it is so nice to listen to him talking.
My God what a class !!!!!!!!
Also thank you for asking the questions that are interesting to musicians ,great interview ,
Wow! Struck gold again! Thanks dudes……super dudes at that.
A very beautiful man. Thank you for sharing Pat.
Lifetime of knowledge to unpack here.
Great advice and philosophy from an advanced player and thinker.
This is a must-read-write & share fantastic historical epic moment Frank. big blessed hands!
Thank you Pat ,u r genius!!
Namaste from Darjeeling
What a awesome looking guitar.
Genius!
"My greatest exercise for developing technique is precision itself"! What a statement and when you think about it, yeah precision will demand technique. So cool.
Dave - I'm grateful that you had the chance to have Pat M. as your guest. More than ever, this youtube video is significant today.
thanks for writing Brian) Pat was absolutely great that day in every way)
Beautiful interview, thank you! I loved the concept of Joy, we should do what brings joy tu us. So simple but powerful and true! RIP PM
This is pretty incredible, how his mind works and how he integrates all awareness/perception/knowledge/information into musical possibilities, a truly unique cat, musically and otherwise. Thanks for sharing.
superb
Tone monster. Love his purity.
Legend
Excelente músico Pat Martino 👌🤝 gracias
Grreat Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!
❤️🙏 Senior Pat Martino
This is one of the most fascinating things I have ever seen. Thank you so much for doing this. I will be watching this over and over
Thanks for writing Miles, please enjoy a visit to the master class archive at www.davefrankjazz.com, there are currently 44 of these in-depth classes, all free for you) Hi from NYC!
The improvised chord melody from 40:12 is beautiful and what so many guitarists aspire to.
yes for sure
Indeed!
Repeated movement
So true!
Rick Beato, thankyou
Oh Mr Martino too!!!!!!
thank you so much for this !!
this is just amazing.
$2 please)
Class.... So much Class
haha thanks for writing
what a fantastic interview.. thank you for posting
you are welcome)
Took me a sec to realize what Pat was doing with the alphabet method... wow. It's cool. Gotta try it!
Thanks so much for this!
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Boy can Pat PLAY. Genius
at least)
Maestro Martin!
How hadnt I been here before? Such a great video, tks!
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1:04:30 Genius... Loved this man. RIP, sir.
Thx a lot Dave for this wonderfull moment ...
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I should have been there!
Dave--that intro solo/walking bass line is incredible. Thank you for being an inspiration and providing enriching content for all us chumps!
You can send me all your chump change anytime har har)
Superb guitarist and also had the best hairstyle of anyone in the 1960s.
A Great Master Class featuring an amazing Human Being with an Amazing story to tell!! Thanks Dave!!
That ll be $2 Nigel
Thank you so much !!!
you are welcome)
Great session !
Pat's De best, period.
Thank you Pat Martino...
Hey what am I chopped liver?
So touching Dave... Slice that cake. 😂
Thank you!
you are welcome)
I love hearing pat talk ,the professor
I love how he talks also, of course I have NO idea what he's talking about.
0.o Wow. Love this to highest degree! I owe you a coffee for posting this!
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YESSSSS!!!!!!
Damn what a genius so inspiring! Thank You for posting!
I lost my Mom before covid but She had dementia, She was an incredible artist and classical pianist. Love Your playing and interviewing style. Rip Pat Martino
FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!
you think? haha
The first time I heard Pat was in Pittsburgh at a club called the Hurricane. He was playing with Sonny Stitt with don Patterson on organ and Billy James on drums. He soloed on a very uptempo tune and I was amazed at his ability to say so much at that speed. I stayed till the gig was over and asked Pat if I could spend some time with him. He said "sure come up to my room at the Hotel Ellis. (What a great human being) He played things there that were even more incredible. His kindness overcame my sense of awe. I left there in the morning at sunrise. That's Pat Martino.
Fantastic is right) I felt the same way doing this class with him.
Dave you too, sounded great and was an excellent host!
I have all of pats books and don't completely understand his concept of everything deriving from the guitar's diminished voicings. I've taken all of the theory course my undergrad has to offer but this still twist my mind a bit.
pat is in a league of his own.
Thank You all very much! God Bless!
I'm going to interpret the mail box analogy as the mail box being the target notes.
Good job Dave!
why thank you)
Hello Dave I am a guitar player and I would like to come to your show! ua-cam.com/video/qvDS6a0mqbA/v-deo.html
22:47 is the Answer. Thanks, Mr Martino.
Man, I love Pat's playing. I'm a Pat fanatic but one thing I must say, don't be confused by his spiritual development now and his path to getting there i.e. "the instrument should not be an addiction.". Well, didn't he say his parents had to wake him up off the table to go to bed? Didn't he say he was told he spent about 18 hours with practice or being in a musically environment? These are the type of things that confuse some students. It's still all about doing homework first. Enlightenment comes later. Get his course, study it, meditate on it and get enlighten. LOL. He tried to pull a nice one on us with Giant Steps...
What do u mean with giant steps?
@@isaacpadilla6348 he’s talking about near 1:20:00 where pat improvises a chord melody with giant steps.
I believe Pat meant about being so addicted to music, and progressing, he missed out on essential life events. Especially earlier on, while learning the craft. You realize this as you get older...
Best thing on UA-cam.
that's what they all say hahahaha
Thanks so much Dave! Pat’s approach to the guitar and existence in general is so refreshing and encouraging, an absolute inspiration for those who seek the truth in their own heart. Words are not enough, but rest assured the universe is listening- thanks again and much love 🥰
Blessings and Keep Swingin amigo, please enjoy a visit to the master class archive at davefrankjazz.com for 57 in-depth jazz master classes, all free)
It is too good to believe
What are you referring to?
Great interview greatest guitarplayer on the planet
no question!
As grateful as I am to Pat for this invaluable insight into music, jazz, philosophy & life itself, I thank Dave for allowing this session to flow naturally, unhindered. Deeply moved & inspired by you gentlemen. My eternal thanks.
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I'm there already! Started on Master Class #01: Charlie Parker Thank you :-)
anything I can do to help you feel free to write)
Cool camera work. And, I’d like to learn more about Lennie. I think Joe Satriani studied with him, too.
Che meraviglia
cool...
Man ...Dave....you`re AWESOME! You`re the Ayatollah of Rock`n Rolla.
haha I diggit, thanks)
Oh my God
Rest In Peace Mr. Martino
Great! I subscribed!
Great! Now go to your parents' wallet, take out all the green stuff, and send it to me!
haha I 'm not that young!!! moreover it looks more like goldish than green ;)
Soupy Sales lives!
On Opposites: “Being there on time, with nothing… and clearing my mind…and pay attention to one thing at a time…..whats placed before me…. and do so with precision”
vs.
“We’re not always concerned about what we’re asked to do. Sometime we’re so absorbed… and… taken by what we want to do next… that what we’re asked to do seems to be in the way if it, and we try and get it done as quickly as we possibly can…and by doing that…we enter mediocrity…..automatically’”
Wisdom, Thanks Pat
This guy has such a brain as he may be from another planet of a advanced civilization.
Pat Martino - The Geniuses's Genius
for sure Here's to Pat!!
RIP Pat Martino
Pat Martino is such a amazing musician and very down to earth. Sadly, his current condition has made seeing him perform again unlikely.
He passed in November of 2021, so 100% unlikely unless you join him in heaven.
Hey Dave I am an other jazz student in south west China in yunnan !
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Wow you can really hear the Lennie influence haha thanks for the video
yes, I grew up in his living room) Thanks for writing
Dave can kill it Too.
haha thanx for writing)
Dave, that was an OUTSTANDING rendition of Lean Years. I find this d-minor tune particularly challenging on the keyboard because of the modulations to e-flat minor then d-flat minor, back to d-minor. The adjacent tonal centers makes the mental and fingering changes difficult to move between... at least, for me.
Cutting that tune took alot of practice)
what did you just say? Did SRV do that? ;)
I wish the Rhythmic space aspect were accentuated a bit more