i am a completely new fan i have no idea how comics work, never read one, and i want to start with rebirth, i have a couple of questions 1. do comics work like episodes from a show, like there is a season which has episodes or is it something else 2. what comic should i read first if i want to start rebirth 3. what if i dont want to read something from the comics will that affect what comes next 4. i really like batman, so could i just read his books or will i have to read all to understand everything 5. if i can only read batman then what comic should i read first it would be really helpfull if someone answered my questions, thanks.
1. DC and Marvel are more like soap operas or wrestling. They don't have breaks and continue on every month. But you could view miniseries as a season since the story stops. 2. DC Comics Rebirth #1 by Geoff Johns. 3. I don't have issues picking and choosing old story arcs. A lot of times, you'll realize something interesting happened that affects the story you're reading. And go back and read that as well. 4. You can read Batman right now. You'll figure out the status quo as you go along. 5. I personally would read Batman: Year One first.
@@sarimsiddiqui866 As a total DC noob I went through trial and error with Batman. That has made my approach to other DC characters I wanted to try out more conservative. Less game related comics, elseworld, New 52, Earth One or All Star. If you like the idea of variants those Batman feel like variants. I am focusing on the classics, seminal works, pre New 52 stuff with some early Rebirth. The stuff that makes Batman feel like The Batman. Batman titles that you can read as self contained stories in trade paperback or hardback. Batman> Year One, Year Two, Dammed, Hush, Venom, Death in the Family, Gotham After Midnight. The average trade read is about the average film length. The Dark Knight Returns is kind of the end of his story. So reading that early or first doesn't work as well. For more of show length than film length time wise. The Long Halloween + Dark Victory. I liked Batman War series it's like five short trades. People are mixed on that one, but I liked it. The Killing Joke didn't land, but people rave about that one. So it seems a crime against art not to mention it. Batman What Ever Happened to the Caped Crusader I found very interesting, but no spoilers. It is a strange one for sure until the end. Early Knightfall is amazing and it shows if a replacement Batman was bad and that part is not as great. That being said JLA: Tower of Babel even though an ensemble cast of characters shows how Batman is really seperate from the rest. You would not want him as a bad guy. Now I am into Superman/girl, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Batgirl/Woman, Catwoman Huntress, but I dropped the JLA stuff. They don't have enough time for all the individual characters. The X-men stuff is kind of like that as I have tried them recently across three Marvel eras. Tyring out Cap, Thor, Hulk, Spawn, Xmen, Excalibur old/new. Careful of being bitten by the comic bug? I am also into 2000 AD, Millarworld, DMZ, The Walking Dead, The Boy's now.
@@PrivateCitizen84 Oh my god thanks a lot!! you are really passionate about this lol, i will definately check out what u told me, and again thanks alot for the help
This is just me but a list of titles to start out with for beginners would be Justice League of America- Brad Meltzer run. Justice Society of America- Geoff Johns run in 2007. Green Arrow- Kevin Smiths and Jeff Lemires runs. Batman/Superman-Jeff Loeb run Superman- Tomasi/Gleason run Action comics- Geoff johns run with Richard donner and Eric powell. Hawkman-Robert vinditti run Batman-Morrison’s run, I know I’m going to be crucified but personally I liked Tom Kings Run. Perfect? No but it had some pretty good stories Animal man- Morrison Sandman-Gaiman The spirit- Darwyn Cooke Swamp thing-Moore Constantine- early Jamie Delano stuff, Ennis run. Green lantern rebirth by johns The flash- Williamson run Teen titans- Geoff johns run I’m sure I’ve left a lot out but those to me are introductory friendly
With the Black Adam movie coming out many folks might become interested in the Justice Society. All I can tell those people is to go pick up Geoff Johns JSA run from the 2000's. I fell in love with those characters because of how Johns wrote them.
Geoff Johns’s first JSA is pure gold. Each one of Sadowski’s splash page reveals at the end of each of the first few issues were such a thrill. JSA Classified was fun. By Volume 2 (now titled “Justice Society of America”), I thought that the team just got way too big and it lost some magic for me.
post crisis run on DC comics was really awesome and felt like a great reboot to dc universe and did everything right in my opinion and honestly next to DC rebirth both eras were really awesome and badass and as a huge fan of Superman that era gave me everything I ever wanted especially as a huge fan of Superman family especially with my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self hanging out with Damian wayne Robin and forming the super sons was really awesome and made me smile everyday I love it so much, also a bonus we got a great Green lantern and Titans during dc rebirth which was really awesome and badass in my book. It still drives me crazy that DC rebirth got destroyed by Dan didio horrible awful takes of DC comics by killing off Wally west and ruining everything with rebirth and killing off the titans and hiring Brian Michael bendis to destroy superman family drove me mad and still pisses me off till this day but that's just my opinion.
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My recommendations Superman - John Byrne's Man of Steel (followed by Byrne, Jerry Ordway, Roger Stern and Dan Jurgens run on Superman titles); Geoff Johns Secret origins, Legion of Super Heroes and Brainiac; Tomasi and Gleason's run Batman - Steve Englehart run; Legends of the Dark Knight; Scott Snyder run Wonder Woman - George Perez run; Hikiteia and Greg Rucka's run Flash (Barry Allen) - Joshua Williamson's run Flash (Wally West) - Mark Waid run; Geoff Johns run Green Lantern - Rebirth and Geoff Johns run Aquaman - Peter David run; New 52 run (the one written by Geoff Johns and later Jeff Parker) Justice League - Grant Morrison, Mark Waid and Joe Kelly runs Zatanna - Paul Dini run Green Arrow - Mike Grell, Kevin Smith, Judd Winick, Jeff Lemire and Benjamin Percy runs Hawkman - Robert Venditti run Teen Titans - Marv Wolfman & George Perez, Geoff Johns run JSA - Geoff Johns run (both vol 1 and 2) Legion of Super Heroes - Paul Levitz run Doom Patrol - Grant Morrison's run Suicide Squad - John Ostrander and Tom Taylor runs
Hawkman by Robert Venditti was soooo amazing. I wish he picked up the character again and continue the story, it was like 29 issues only, but was a fantastic run.
👍 RV did a nice job sorting out the backstory of HM, I thought he was poised to be an important character in JL or a new JSA. DC has deemed we only get Hawkwoman though.
John Bryne's Superman run is legendary. Between his DC & Marvel work, the man could do no wrong when I was growing up. Legends was a great series also. Still have my original issues of all those. Still need to catch up on quite a bit of stuff from the Rebirth era. Gonna be doing a deep dive into those over the next couple months.
I recommend the Crisis on Multiple Earths books where they put all the stories together for the different Crisis events that lead to Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Long-time DC fan here (since the 80s). The eras I can remember having most of what DC published in my pull list were the mid-90s (Aquaman, JLA, GL, Starman were highlights), the early 2000s (every corner of the DC Universe leading up to Infinite Crisis was absolutely solid). And then DC Rebirth. I skipped Flashpoint, New 52, and Dark Metal. I enjoy Elseworlds stuff but will bail out if the whole DC universe goes upside-down and becomes recognizable.
Great video. The Crisis era was the antithesis of the current DC era. The Flash and Superman and JLA hooked me. DC Rebirth brought me back into comics again.
This is by leaps and bounds the best video on UA-cam to figure out where to jump into reading DC comics ... every era explained in clarity so you'd at least know what you're getting into ... some mild spoilers, but I guess that's the trade off I hate, so much, those videos that were like "Just start anywhere"... omfg!!! Then you start "anywhere" and find Batman in a floating chair with glowing eyes, like WTF, man?! Thank you for this. Subscribed!
Please do a retrospective on Manhunter by Goodwin and Simonson from Detective! It’s about 64 pages and there was a recent Deluxe Edition. Way ahead of its time!
Since I was a kid on a budget when I first got into comics I was limited to only Marvel comics. Unfortunately this carried into my older years and while I was aware of some of the bigger things going on at DC I never became a regular reader. Nice to have a guide to the starting line.
It’s a good recommendation but it’s kinda long run and isn’t easy at all to get for new readers, this program is about comics for new beginners, New teen titans whole run are almost 5 omnibus editions
Grant Morrison's JLA run. I cannot stress enough how perfectly that series embodied everything cool about DC comics. Beyond that... Morrison's All-Star Superman. The entire run of Wolfman and Perez's New Teen Titans. Len Wein & George Perez's run on Wonder Woman. Alan Moore's Swamp Thing. Garth Ennis's Hellblazer. Greg Rucka's first run on Wonder Woman.
Obviously the answer is to start with New Fun: The Big Comics Magazine #1 from National Allied Publications, cover dated February 1935. Read everything from there, and it will all make sense. Good luck!
I started with Dark Nights Metal. Then I went back to the New 52 run of Justice League and Batman runs and at the same time to the Silver Age and Golden Age key comics like the origin of the JL and the main characters of the DC Universe. Then I went to the elseworlds like Kingdome Come etc. Now I'm back after the Metal event to catch up with Dawn of DC. I haven't read the post Crisis before Flashpoint stories because thats a LOT of years of reading but eventualy will get there. I would say the New 52 would be a complementary paralel read to the Silver Age of comics thats how it works for me because the're very different in tone and feel.
I completely agree with Eric Breen on Final Night. It was a like a great 70's Disaster Movie of Heroes vs. Nature. And there were some GREAT tie-in issues that came from it, especially from Robin & Aquaman.
Starnan series Kamandi until Kirby left The Flash series from 80's with Wally as Flash John Byrne Wonder Woman and George Perez Wonder Woman Dave Cockrum and Mike Grell Legion of Superheroes 70's Shazam series and the later Jerry Ordway Shazam series Batman year one Crisis on Infinite Earths only once reader understands all the characters House of Secrets, House of Mystery, the Unexpected
I really loved the Golden and Silver Ages of DC Comics. So much fun. Also, I loved The New 52 version of The Justice League. But, if I had to pick my favorite era overall, I gotta go with Post-Crisis aka Pre-New 52. Batman Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come, Watchman, Tim Drake as Robin, the Bat-family, The Death and Return of Superman saga, Knightfall, Zero Hour, DC One Million-what a fun story that was! JLA/Titans The Technis Imperative, Superman The Doomsday Wars, Young Justice, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, Flashpoint. My favorite era.
I don’t know. I just saw my coworker reading a comic book and asked if I can read it too. It wasn’t the first issue and I figured out pretty quick what was happening. He filled in any questions I had. That’s how I ended up reading DCeased and Doomsday Clock and Flash.
I recommend more Bronze Age stuff like DC Comics Presents with Len Wein and Jim Starlin the introduction of Mongul and the 3 part original Warworld saga is awesome.Marv Wolfman Action Comics with Superman fighting threats like Vandal Savage,Neutron and the new Brainiac skeleton version that was very popular in the 80's is very good too.I don' recommend N52.I prefer just forget this awful Era.
DC Bronze Age is awesome. People just don’t give it a fair shake and write it off as “kiddie”. Or, more likely, they just haven’t ever read any of it. I wouldn’t say they were any more corny than Marvel was. They just were different than Marvel. I’d say they had more of a sci-fi element. It’s like Star Trek vs Star Wars imo. The ones you mentioned, Wolfman on Green Lantern, Cary Bates doing crazy stuff in Flash, green Arrow back up stories in WFC and Detective by Cavelerie and Von Eden, Levitz and Staton on Justice Society, Skeates and Aparo on Aquaman ……Of the top of my head.
Glossed over Infinite Crisis, the weekly year long event series 52 and it's One Year Later concept. Not to mention Green Lanterns rise to prominence with Geoff Jones. GL was the biggest series at the time introducing most of the new events with Sinestro Corps War and Blackest Night.
2000s DC has a lot of great places to read. Geoff John's Green Lantern, as well as his aquaman with amazing Ivan Reis art and good coloring. The Scott Snyder Batman is great too, so many good artists and good story lines in that time.
Rebirth got me into Superman and Greenlantern. I’m still searching for some of the Greenlantern rebirth titles. When BMB came in to DC Superman went downhill fast and so did the rest of DC.
I loved Infinite Crisis and the immediate post-IC time. Final Crisis bolloxed that whole thing up. And I haven’t been really excited about a regular continuity book since New 52. And the crazy thing is that they could’ve had Booster correct the whole timeline because John’s had him remember the pre-New 52 Earth and then they dropped that ball.
I'am more of a Marvel guy and own a shit ton of comics, but I've always liked DC but follow the characters mostly through movies, TV and animation, while having a smattering of comics...so this was a nice insight into where to start growing my collection , I already have Man Of Steel and a few others mentioned, so not bad.
I started with Geoff Johns' Flash Rebirth, Flash, and flashpoint is next for me. Some of the beginning of Flash rebirth was confusing to me because I didn't know about the flash family but it was still great. After flashpoint I wanna get into Metal.
I would suggest Crisis on Infinite Earths til Flashpoint. New 52 was dogshit and nothing but a cash in. I left four months in after reading and collecting since 1991. Came back for Rebirth and now trying to stay through the current Rainbow age.
God bless ya, brother. I don't know how you can stomach the Rainbow age (nice nick' btw), I jumped ship 3 years ago. Rebirth was so good and should've been the catalyst for modern DC. Thanks to DiDio and the wokeys that all got shot straight to hell. King's Heroes in Crisis should've been titled "Rebirth in Crisis," because that was the final death nail as far as I'm concerned.
Awesome, I’ve been wanting to get into Marvel and DC comics for awhile now but, to be honest it’s been extremely intimidating for me as a fan of these characters in other media particularly Batman when it comes to DC to know where to start so, this should really help
Question for the panel: Are any of you familiar with the post-Crisis Spectre? Either or both the Doug Moench (1987- 89) ; John Ostrander (1992-98). Is one better than the other? I don't ever hear much scuttlebutt on those.
I love Doug Moench but Ostrander's Spectre run is incredible. Start with that. I know a guy who was in editorial at Marvel when it was coming out who also says that run was better than just about anything Marvel was doing at the time too.
It may not be canon anymore, but I truly recommend the golden age. The golden age stories are so bold and dynamic. It's about heroes intrepidly confronting criminals for the sake of the common good. It really displays the trueness of the superheroes. The stories have mayhem and intensity. It's sensational, yet has realistic elements with its characters.
Does anybody have a recommendation for a good place to start for Nightwing? I’ve seen Wes mention it a couple of times in his videos lately, but want to know if there’s a good spot for a beginner? (I’m guessing mid 80s after having watched the video?)
Start with Gunslinger Spawn. If you have more money buy more Spawn. After that there is a few Batman/Spawn crossover books. That's the best way to get into DC.
Buying DC is a trap. it's been getting worse each year. If someone wants to get invested in a large universe. Gunslinger and King are more affordable. Spawn over all has gotten better.
I would 💯 not recommend crisis on infinite earths as a intro to DC. As a kid, I read comics to my parents to help with my lisp and I tried to read crisis but every 2nd page, I had to explain the new hero being introduced (there were many) and it was difficult for them to follow the story.
I really don't want to dip back into current continuity, I stopped mid way through rebirth. I'm glad I did. I still pick up suicide squad, but the rest meh.
Stick to collected self contained books and all time classics, like DKR, Black Adam: The Dark Age or Kingdom Come. (Personally I would say stop once you get to the multicolored lanterns era, but to each his own.)
Does Milestone fit into the Zero Hour era at all, or were they still considered independent at that time? I ask because my cousin is a big fan of the Static Shock show and I'd like to get him into the (good) comics at some point.
Is there any reason why it should matter? The stories themselves are over twenty years old,. In that time Milestone has been rebooted at least once, and DC as a whole has had about five or six reboots. There's not much point even pretending canon is a thing, and that everything can fit together. If you think they're good stories then share them.
Ignore continuity if you like a character or group seek out recommended stories about them don't try to collect try to find stories you like to read you'll do fine they should do these videos on other comics publishers especially independents
With DC most modern readers should skip straight to bronze age. Marvel silver age holds up better but DC was for children until the 70s. Those comics are rare because children read the comics and then they were used to line birdcages, firewood, etc.
I would add the jumping off point, do not read beyond this, buyer beware: Metal and Death Metal. You can pretty much ignore almost everything after this outside of a very few exceptions (Hawkman was during the Metal era for example.) These are the turning point to the propaganda., sexuality stunts and complete Bendis Tom King style takeover and both events made the multiverse a completely incomprehensible gibberish mess, built for writers who are not creative enough to work within continuity or canon.
This isn’t really a where to start video. Saying a certain era to look at doesn’t really help a new reader find the exact books to buy. Also having multiple references to eras or series that aren’t good just muddles the whole topic. You’re basically just saying start dc in any set of books it may be good or bad at that point.
For both DC Comics and Marvel Comics, the Iron Age of comics was the best. From 1980 to 1994. Especially from 1986 to 1994. Everything unfortunately then started to turn to shit from 1995 to the present. Nothing but unnecessary cash grabs.
start from crisis on infinite earths and stop at flashpoint. you get all the best 80s, 90s and early 2000s stories and art and avoid the blue/pink haired weirdo writers post flashpoint.
You know they're masochists. There are no other serious fans I know of who would want to dig through all the woke garbage in the Big 2 and find all the rough diamonds that are left. That's some dedication although I do think they'll reach breaking point, eventually.
@@jaylucien669 But the those cost more money. The cheapest and therefore, the most easily accessible books are the ones DC is putting out right now. And it seems, at least according to a lot of UA-cam videos, the vast majority of their current output is awful. So why bother with DC at all?
@@davidharding1299 I guess it just depends on how much interest someone has in the characters. Plus the GNs and TPBs can be found for decent prices (old and new editions).
i am a completely new fan i have no idea how comics work, never read one, and i want to start with rebirth,
i have a couple of questions
1. do comics work like episodes from a show, like there is a season which has episodes or is it something else
2. what comic should i read first if i want to start rebirth
3. what if i dont want to read something from the comics will that affect what comes next
4. i really like batman, so could i just read his books or will i have to read all to understand everything
5. if i can only read batman then what comic should i read first
it would be really helpfull if someone answered my questions, thanks.
1. DC and Marvel are more like soap operas or wrestling. They don't have breaks and continue on every month. But you could view miniseries as a season since the story stops.
2. DC Comics Rebirth #1 by Geoff Johns.
3. I don't have issues picking and choosing old story arcs. A lot of times, you'll realize something interesting happened that affects the story you're reading. And go back and read that as well.
4. You can read Batman right now. You'll figure out the status quo as you go along.
5. I personally would read Batman: Year One first.
@@Wes_From_TC thanks alot this was very helpful 💟
@@sarimsiddiqui866 As a total DC noob I went through trial and error with Batman. That has made my approach to other DC characters I wanted to try out more conservative. Less game related comics, elseworld, New 52, Earth One or All Star. If you like the idea of variants those Batman feel like variants. I am focusing on the classics, seminal works, pre New 52 stuff with some early Rebirth. The stuff that makes Batman feel like The Batman.
Batman titles that you can read as self contained stories in trade paperback or hardback. Batman> Year One, Year Two, Dammed, Hush, Venom, Death in the Family, Gotham After Midnight. The average trade read is about the average film length.
The Dark Knight Returns is kind of the end of his story. So reading that early or first doesn't work as well.
For more of show length than film length time wise. The Long Halloween + Dark Victory. I liked Batman War series it's like five short trades. People are mixed on that one, but I liked it.
The Killing Joke didn't land, but people rave about that one. So it seems a crime against art not to mention it.
Batman What Ever Happened to the Caped Crusader I found very interesting, but no spoilers. It is a strange one for sure until the end.
Early Knightfall is amazing and it shows if a replacement Batman was bad and that part is not as great. That being said JLA: Tower of Babel even though an ensemble cast of characters shows how Batman is really seperate from the rest. You would not want him as a bad guy.
Now I am into Superman/girl, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Batgirl/Woman, Catwoman Huntress, but I dropped the JLA stuff. They don't have enough time for all the individual characters. The X-men stuff is kind of like that as I have tried them recently across three Marvel eras. Tyring out Cap, Thor, Hulk, Spawn, Xmen, Excalibur old/new.
Careful of being bitten by the comic bug? I am also into 2000 AD, Millarworld, DMZ, The Walking Dead, The Boy's now.
@@PrivateCitizen84 Oh my god thanks a lot!! you are really passionate about this lol, i will definately check out what u told me, and again thanks alot for the help
This is just me but a list of titles to start out with for beginners would be
Justice League of America- Brad Meltzer run.
Justice Society of America- Geoff Johns run in 2007.
Green Arrow- Kevin Smiths and Jeff Lemires runs.
Batman/Superman-Jeff Loeb run
Superman- Tomasi/Gleason run
Action comics- Geoff johns run with Richard donner and Eric powell.
Hawkman-Robert vinditti run
Batman-Morrison’s run, I know I’m going to be crucified but personally I liked Tom Kings Run. Perfect? No but it had some pretty good stories
Animal man- Morrison
Sandman-Gaiman
The spirit- Darwyn Cooke
Swamp thing-Moore
Constantine- early Jamie Delano stuff, Ennis run.
Green lantern rebirth by johns
The flash- Williamson run
Teen titans- Geoff johns run
I’m sure I’ve left a lot out but those to me are introductory friendly
With the Black Adam movie coming out many folks might become interested in the Justice Society. All I can tell those people is to go pick up Geoff Johns JSA run from the 2000's. I fell in love with those characters because of how Johns wrote them.
I think the movie is actually based on his version of Black Adam
Probably the best team book DC ever did since JLA. Johns also made the best Teen Titans since Wolfman. That guy really did a lot of good for DC.
@@NukeA6 I couldn't agree more.
Geoff Johns’s first JSA is pure gold. Each one of Sadowski’s splash page reveals at the end of each of the first few issues were such a thrill. JSA Classified was fun.
By Volume 2 (now titled “Justice Society of America”), I thought that the team just got way too big and it lost some magic for me.
Ironically, the best place to start is also where to end... I miss DC SOOO much.
post crisis run on DC comics was really awesome and felt like a great reboot to dc universe and did everything right in my opinion and honestly next to DC rebirth both eras were really awesome and badass and as a huge fan of Superman that era gave me everything I ever wanted especially as a huge fan of Superman family especially with my boy Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy as his little 10 year old self hanging out with Damian wayne Robin and forming the super sons was really awesome and made me smile everyday I love it so much, also a bonus we got a great Green lantern and Titans during dc rebirth which was really awesome and badass in my book. It still drives me crazy that DC rebirth got destroyed by Dan didio horrible awful takes of DC comics by killing off Wally west and ruining everything with rebirth and killing off the titans and hiring Brian Michael bendis to destroy superman family drove me mad and still pisses me off till this day but that's just my opinion.
@@dcfan4life301 i will review it eventually
Your opinions are dead on facts as far as I'm concerned. It still pisses me off too.
@@jaylucien669 thank you
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My recommendations
Superman - John Byrne's Man of Steel (followed by Byrne, Jerry Ordway, Roger Stern and Dan Jurgens run on Superman titles); Geoff Johns Secret origins, Legion of Super Heroes and Brainiac; Tomasi and Gleason's run
Batman - Steve Englehart run; Legends of the Dark Knight; Scott Snyder run
Wonder Woman - George Perez run; Hikiteia and Greg Rucka's run
Flash (Barry Allen) - Joshua Williamson's run
Flash (Wally West) - Mark Waid run; Geoff Johns run
Green Lantern - Rebirth and Geoff Johns run
Aquaman - Peter David run; New 52 run (the one written by Geoff Johns and later Jeff Parker)
Justice League - Grant Morrison, Mark Waid and Joe Kelly runs
Zatanna - Paul Dini run
Green Arrow - Mike Grell, Kevin Smith, Judd Winick, Jeff Lemire and Benjamin Percy runs
Hawkman - Robert Venditti run
Teen Titans - Marv Wolfman & George Perez, Geoff Johns run
JSA - Geoff Johns run (both vol 1 and 2)
Legion of Super Heroes - Paul Levitz run
Doom Patrol - Grant Morrison's run
Suicide Squad - John Ostrander and Tom Taylor runs
Hawkman by Robert Venditti was soooo amazing. I wish he picked up the character again and continue the story, it was like 29 issues only, but was a fantastic run.
👍 RV did a nice job sorting out the backstory of HM, I thought he was poised to be an important character in JL or a new JSA. DC has deemed we only get Hawkwoman though.
Agree. I like it better than Geoff Johns because he kind of had him simping over an uninterested Kendra who had him friend zoned hard.
It really was amazing. So underrated.
Best DC title of the 21st Century .
John Bryne's Superman run is legendary. Between his DC & Marvel work, the man could do no wrong when I was growing up. Legends was a great series also. Still have my original issues of all those.
Still need to catch up on quite a bit of stuff from the Rebirth era. Gonna be doing a deep dive into those over the next couple months.
I recommend the Crisis on Multiple Earths books where they put all the stories together for the different Crisis events that lead to Crisis on Infinite Earths.
Starman was awesome. It was excellent from beginning to end and should be a model for how to write a series. 90s was the best era for DC.
1986-2011 was all mostly great.
@@jaylucien669 Yes, totally agree.
Long-time DC fan here (since the 80s). The eras I can remember having most of what DC published in my pull list were the mid-90s (Aquaman, JLA, GL, Starman were highlights), the early 2000s (every corner of the DC Universe leading up to Infinite Crisis was absolutely solid). And then DC Rebirth.
I skipped Flashpoint, New 52, and Dark Metal. I enjoy Elseworlds stuff but will bail out if the whole DC universe goes upside-down and becomes recognizable.
I began with Super Friends and the 1960's Batman dutch angles, self-destruct levers, and SOCK, POW, BAM.
Great video. The Crisis era was the antithesis of the current DC era. The Flash and Superman and JLA hooked me. DC Rebirth brought me back into comics again.
This is by leaps and bounds the best video on UA-cam to figure out where to jump into reading DC comics ... every era explained in clarity so you'd at least know what you're getting into ... some mild spoilers, but I guess that's the trade off
I hate, so much, those videos that were like "Just start anywhere"... omfg!!! Then you start "anywhere" and find Batman in a floating chair with glowing eyes, like WTF, man?!
Thank you for this.
Subscribed!
Glad we could help.
I’m not the brightest bulb, but even I was able to start reading Batman, and Geoff Johns’ Green Lantern with minimal difficulty.
Yeah, anything by Johns is always highly recommended.
@Ryan Wilson Morrisons run was great as well
Please do a retrospective on Manhunter by Goodwin and Simonson from Detective! It’s about 64 pages and there was a recent Deluxe Edition. Way ahead of its time!
Since I was a kid on a budget when I first got into comics I was limited to only Marvel comics. Unfortunately this carried into my older years and while I was aware of some of the bigger things going on at DC I never became a regular reader. Nice to have a guide to the starting line.
Surprised no one recommended The New Teen Titans, I just read all the Omnibi and it was fantastic
@Ryan Wilson I mainly mean that first 10 year period, pre crisis and post crisis
I love the Wolfman/Perez run!
My first ever comic, and still my favorite.
@@jcoral1 especially the judas contract
It’s a good recommendation but it’s kinda long run and isn’t easy at all to get for new readers, this program is about comics for new beginners, New teen titans whole run are almost 5 omnibus editions
Grant Morrison's JLA run. I cannot stress enough how perfectly that series embodied everything cool about DC comics. Beyond that...
Morrison's All-Star Superman. The entire run of Wolfman and Perez's New Teen Titans. Len Wein & George Perez's run on Wonder Woman. Alan Moore's Swamp Thing. Garth Ennis's Hellblazer. Greg Rucka's first run on Wonder Woman.
Obviously the answer is to start with New Fun: The Big Comics Magazine #1 from National Allied Publications, cover dated February 1935. Read everything from there, and it will all make sense. Good luck!
@Ryan Wilson Hopefully nobody took my ridiculous comment seriously.
I started with Dark Nights Metal.
Then I went back to the New 52 run of Justice League and Batman runs and at the same time to the Silver Age and Golden Age key comics like the origin of the JL and the main characters of the DC Universe.
Then I went to the elseworlds like Kingdome Come etc.
Now I'm back after the Metal event to catch up with Dawn of DC. I haven't read the post Crisis before Flashpoint stories because thats a LOT of years of reading but eventualy will get there.
I would say the New 52 would be a complementary paralel read to the Silver Age of comics thats how it works for me because the're very different in tone and feel.
I completely agree with Eric Breen on Final Night. It was a like a great 70's Disaster Movie of Heroes vs. Nature. And there were some GREAT tie-in issues that came from it, especially from Robin & Aquaman.
I'm glad someone mentioned that first Doug moench batman run . It's super under-rated.
Breen got me into DC with JSA by Geoff Johns suprised it wasn't mentioned I hear it brought up alot by other Readers. Great video 👍
This is a great video. So difficult to nail it down. I'd say court of owls, Wolfman /Perez tt and johns gl run
Can’t thank all 3 of you enough for this. What Eric said about the second half of the 80s is exactly what made me a DC fan for life.
Rebirth is what got me to really appreciate Superman as a character
The Final Night probably one of the mos underrated event in DC. From my observations Its rarely pops up in conversations.
GREAT video ! Very very helpfull for a new reader. Thanks a lot.
i think the 100page giants from the 70's that reprinted a wealth of stories is a great resource for new readers
Starnan series
Kamandi until Kirby left
The Flash series from 80's with Wally as Flash
John Byrne Wonder Woman and George Perez Wonder Woman
Dave Cockrum and Mike Grell Legion of Superheroes
70's Shazam series and the later Jerry Ordway Shazam series
Batman year one
Crisis on Infinite Earths only once reader understands all the characters
House of Secrets, House of Mystery, the Unexpected
I really loved the Golden and Silver Ages of DC Comics. So much fun. Also, I loved The New 52 version of The Justice League. But, if I had to pick my favorite era overall, I gotta go with Post-Crisis aka Pre-New 52. Batman Year One, The Dark Knight Returns, Kingdom Come, Watchman, Tim Drake as Robin, the Bat-family, The Death and Return of Superman saga, Knightfall, Zero Hour, DC One Million-what a fun story that was! JLA/Titans The Technis Imperative, Superman The Doomsday Wars, Young Justice, Infinite Crisis, Final Crisis, Flashpoint. My favorite era.
Loved Red Lion in DC Rebirth. And also Marilyn Moonlight in Dawn Of DC.
This video was great! Excellent work, fellas! Solid Rec’s for new readers
Started with Rebirth. Loved Red Hood and the Outlaws and Deathstroke. Green Arrow was great but I fell out of it, unfortunately.
Great video again! The only thing I would add would be the Wolfman/Perez The New Teen Titans run from 1980- 84.
Thank you so much for this. This is the DC video I've been waiting on.
I don’t know. I just saw my coworker reading a comic book and asked if I can read it too. It wasn’t the first issue and I figured out pretty quick what was happening. He filled in any questions I had. That’s how I ended up reading DCeased and Doomsday Clock and Flash.
I recommend more Bronze Age stuff like DC Comics Presents with Len Wein and Jim Starlin the introduction of Mongul and the 3 part original Warworld saga is awesome.Marv Wolfman Action Comics with Superman fighting threats like Vandal Savage,Neutron and the new Brainiac skeleton version that was very popular in the 80's is very good too.I don' recommend N52.I prefer just forget this awful Era.
There are a lot of great gems from the Bronze Era. I'd love to have a complete set of DC Comics Presents.
DC Bronze Age is awesome. People just don’t give it a fair shake and write it off as “kiddie”. Or, more likely, they just haven’t ever read any of it. I wouldn’t say they were any more corny than Marvel was. They just were different than Marvel. I’d say they had more of a sci-fi element. It’s like Star Trek vs Star Wars imo. The ones you mentioned, Wolfman on Green Lantern, Cary Bates doing crazy stuff in Flash, green Arrow back up stories in WFC and Detective by Cavelerie and Von Eden, Levitz and Staton on Justice Society, Skeates and Aparo on Aquaman ……Of the top of my head.
Glossed over Infinite Crisis, the weekly year long event series 52 and it's One Year Later concept. Not to mention Green Lanterns rise to prominence with Geoff Jones. GL was the biggest series at the time introducing most of the new events with Sinestro Corps War and Blackest Night.
2000s DC has a lot of great places to read. Geoff John's Green Lantern, as well as his aquaman with amazing Ivan Reis art and good coloring. The Scott Snyder Batman is great too, so many good artists and good story lines in that time.
Rebirth got me into Superman and Greenlantern. I’m still searching for some of the Greenlantern rebirth titles. When BMB came in to DC Superman went downhill fast and so did the rest of DC.
I loved Infinite Crisis and the immediate post-IC time. Final Crisis bolloxed that whole thing up. And I haven’t been really excited about a regular continuity book since New 52. And the crazy thing is that they could’ve had Booster correct the whole timeline because John’s had him remember the pre-New 52 Earth and then they dropped that ball.
I also like the 00's stuff from Geoff Johns like his runs on Green Lantern and Flash, and Infinite Crisis.
Oh, and Superman!
Suicide squad in rebirth is also a hidden gem
Really enjoying the channel Wes,thank you👍
Great stuff...I know the continuities to look for in DC.
I'am more of a Marvel guy and own a shit ton of comics, but I've always liked DC but follow the characters mostly through movies, TV and animation, while having a smattering of comics...so this was a nice insight into where to start growing my collection , I already have Man Of Steel and a few others mentioned, so not bad.
I started with Geoff Johns' Flash Rebirth, Flash, and flashpoint is next for me. Some of the beginning of Flash rebirth was confusing to me because I didn't know about the flash family but it was still great. After flashpoint I wanna get into Metal.
If I were a new reader I would be so confused. Thank you for the video
I would suggest Crisis on Infinite Earths til Flashpoint. New 52 was dogshit and nothing but a cash in. I left four months in after reading and collecting since 1991. Came back for Rebirth and now trying to stay through the current Rainbow age.
God bless ya, brother. I don't know how you can stomach the Rainbow age (nice nick' btw), I jumped ship 3 years ago. Rebirth was so good and should've been the catalyst for modern DC. Thanks to DiDio and the wokeys that all got shot straight to hell. King's Heroes in Crisis should've been titled "Rebirth in Crisis," because that was the final death nail as far as I'm concerned.
Oh man this video is gold good gold!
Glad you think so!
Awesome, I’ve been wanting to get into Marvel and DC comics for awhile now but, to be honest it’s been extremely intimidating for me as a fan of these characters in other media particularly Batman when it comes to DC to know where to start so, this should really help
Hope this helps! We have a vid fr getting into Marvel as well.
Yeah, I plan on checking out your Marvel video as well
For me new 52 is perfection
Question for the panel: Are any of you familiar with the post-Crisis Spectre? Either or both the Doug Moench (1987- 89) ; John Ostrander (1992-98). Is one better than the other? I don't ever hear much scuttlebutt on those.
I love Doug Moench but Ostrander's Spectre run is incredible. Start with that. I know a guy who was in editorial at Marvel when it was coming out who also says that run was better than just about anything Marvel was doing at the time too.
I always read that Ostrander's Spectre is the best. And since the 90s was a very good decade for DC, I'd go with that.
After you’re done with Ostrander’s Spectre, check out his brief and underrated Martian Manhunter run.
@@jcoral1 thanks. I appreciate the feedback.
@@gumption76 thanks, I like under appreciated runs.
Young Justice run by Peter Davis is must read and Johns Teen Titans run.
It may not be canon anymore, but I truly recommend the golden age. The golden age stories are so bold and dynamic. It's about heroes intrepidly confronting criminals for the sake of the common good. It really displays the trueness of the superheroes. The stories have mayhem and intensity. It's sensational, yet has realistic elements with its characters.
I'm reading through some Golden Age Batman currently myself.
@@jcoral1 Yeah, back when he used to kill.
Pre 80s stuff is really rough to read, it's a very different style, pacing and narrative structure.
@@kateslate3228 It's not rough to read.
@@elijahbrown3551 It really, REALLY is.
Does anybody have a recommendation for a good place to start for Nightwing? I’ve seen Wes mention it a couple of times in his videos lately, but want to know if there’s a good spot for a beginner? (I’m guessing mid 80s after having watched the video?)
I reccomend the 89s teen titans run as it builds towards Dock becoming NW. After that I would look up the chuck dixion Nightwing run from the 90s
If you wanna go early try Dixon run, but if you’re looking for current, tom Taylor’s run is actually a pretty fresh take after it got stagnant.
Chuck Dixon’s run was excellent from beginning to end.
DARK KNIGHT RETURNS is a good intro for non-comic readers.
Long Halloween
You forgot to mention the best event Infinite Crisis which led to the amazing GL run by Geoff Johns.
Start with Gunslinger Spawn. If you have more money buy more Spawn. After that there is a few Batman/Spawn crossover books. That's the best way to get into DC.
Buying DC is a trap. it's been getting worse each year. If someone wants to get invested in a large universe. Gunslinger and King are more affordable. Spawn over all has gotten better.
@@MidnightLight. DC should be an after addon.
@Ryan Wilson Spawn has nothing as bad as Nubia Real One.
Great video. Going back to basics & ignoring the politics.
The new 52 was okay. But they could have kept Wally West as the Flash. The new 52 was the start of character destruction of fan favorites.
I would 💯 not recommend crisis on infinite earths as a intro to DC. As a kid, I read comics to my parents to help with my lisp and I tried to read crisis but every 2nd page, I had to explain the new hero being introduced (there were many) and it was difficult for them to follow the story.
What about Catwoman's comic book runs...❓️❓️❓️ How many are there, and where would be the best place to start...❓️❓️❓️
What's self contained like the Ultimate stuff in your marvel beginner video? Injustice maybe?
i would tell new readers to start with the most recent Alan Scott run
Cant believe you didn’t mention Injustice comics or red hood and the outlaws
I really don't want to dip back into current continuity, I stopped mid way through rebirth. I'm glad I did. I still pick up suicide squad, but the rest meh.
DC from 1986-2000 was mostly quality superhero comics
Stick to collected self contained books and all time classics, like DKR, Black Adam: The Dark Age or Kingdom Come. (Personally I would say stop once you get to the multicolored lanterns era, but to each his own.)
Where can you get the Gerry Conway Batman you guys were talking about ?
Can you still get the Gerry Conway Batman comics you guys were talking about ?
Try 1980.
So just to clarify, if I were to start reading DC comics starting at rebirth, that is canon and is currently what DC comics is working in to this day?
what do you guys think of dc ultra? would u recommend it?
If you like DC and digital comics 100%
7:32 what is the last great legion of super-heroes that you are talking about???????????????
Does Milestone fit into the Zero Hour era at all, or were they still considered independent at that time? I ask because my cousin is a big fan of the Static Shock show and I'd like to get him into the (good) comics at some point.
Is there any reason why it should matter? The stories themselves are over twenty years old,. In that time Milestone has been rebooted at least once, and DC as a whole has had about five or six reboots. There's not much point even pretending canon is a thing, and that everything can fit together. If you think they're good stories then share them.
Just treat Milestone as its own continuity. By the time Milestone became a part of DC, the whole line was pretty much done.
Have them start around 1978 and go to the Death of Superman in 1992. It's all down hill after that, for both companies.
YOU FORGOT THE SILVER AGE REPRINTS CALLED CALLED SILVER AGE CLASSICS WHICH ARE UNDERVALUED. THIS WAS ISSUED IN 2000.
Great
And where to stop: anywhere before the “New 52” starts.
The old DC is still great. Crisis of Infinite Earths was epic. And DC Rebirth was cool at first. After that it got worse and worse. Unfortunately. 😒
Flashpoint gave me an aneurism. The movie gave me three
Respectfully, I despise Flashpoint and wouldn’t suggest it for anyone.
The movie was good
@@Bolbi145 glad to hear it
Facts. Johns is overrated.
@@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388 I like Johns, just not FP.
@@tomcruisenukedmyaccount5388 yes and no
Why even start, you will just get to the point all of us are at, and be frustrated
Ignore continuity if you like a character or group seek out recommended stories about them don't try to collect try to find stories you like to read you'll do fine they should do these videos on other comics publishers especially independents
With DC most modern readers should skip straight to bronze age. Marvel silver age holds up better but DC was for children until the 70s. Those comics are rare because children read the comics and then they were used to line birdcages, firewood, etc.
I'd start with Iron Age then later back track to the Bronze Age. Bronze continuity was still pretty convoluted and confusing.
There is so much joker I just get tired of it in tv or movies.
I would add the jumping off point, do not read beyond this, buyer beware: Metal and Death Metal. You can pretty much ignore almost everything after this outside of a very few exceptions (Hawkman was during the Metal era for example.) These are the turning point to the propaganda., sexuality stunts and complete Bendis Tom King style takeover and both events made the multiverse a completely incomprehensible gibberish mess, built for writers who are not creative enough to work within continuity or canon.
New DC Comics readers? You made a video for 11 people?
That made me laugh harder than it should have . No Company , not even Marvel has fallen farther , faster than DC .
Sad but true.
I’m hyper-fixated on the DC fandom atm so I’m grateful for this.
This isn’t really a where to start video. Saying a certain era to look at doesn’t really help a new reader find the exact books to buy. Also having multiple references to eras or series that aren’t good just muddles the whole topic. You’re basically just saying start dc in any set of books it may be good or bad at that point.
For both DC Comics and Marvel Comics, the Iron Age of comics was the best. From 1980 to 1994. Especially from 1986 to 1994. Everything unfortunately then started to turn to shit from 1995 to the present. Nothing but unnecessary cash grabs.
I disagree with you about post 1994. The late 90s had some solid stuff and the 2000's were spectacular for both the Big 2.
Why do people say Watchmen is the best comic story ever. I didn't like it. Sorry I know its not a popular opinion
start from crisis on infinite earths and stop at flashpoint. you get all the best 80s, 90s and early 2000s stories and art and avoid the blue/pink haired weirdo writers post flashpoint.
You start with those books but end with gay superboy
Why would you advise anyone to start reading DC Comics now at all?
Are they masochists?
And are you sadists for recommending DC to them?
There's still thousands of comics from DC's past eras worth reading for new fans.
You know they're masochists. There are no other serious fans I know of who would want to dig through all the woke garbage in the Big 2 and find all the rough diamonds that are left. That's some dedication although I do think they'll reach breaking point, eventually.
@@jaylucien669 But the those cost more money. The cheapest and therefore, the most easily accessible books are the ones DC is putting out right now. And it seems, at least according to a lot of UA-cam videos, the vast majority of their current output is awful. So why bother with DC at all?
@@davidharding1299 I guess it just depends on how much interest someone has in the characters. Plus the GNs and TPBs can be found for decent prices (old and new editions).
I'm A comic book veteran. This video is not for me
all these videos are wrong.
Where to start? . . . Don't
Starting at flashpoint makes absolutely no sense
Rebirth is what got me to really appreciate Superman as a character