Brother White you are a true Biblical teacher. Most Christian apologetics are using worldly knowledge more than biblical knowledge. Brother many Christians doesn't like you bcos you're a true Christian.
The only help he could have given to her in this sad situation is pray for her mother so that maybe God would let her see the truth and would believe it.
@@amichiganblackman3200 True but the way i understood, her daughter tried to do that but she just refuse to get it and was requesting a special catholic priest to get her sins forgiven.
Thank you SOOO much for commenting on this video Dr. White! I was really wondering what your comment would be, right what I thought and more excellent points. I’d like to ask Mr. Turek ...did Moses tell the Israelites, as long as you believe in my God then do whatever rituals you want with that golden calf?
Spot on. This is why Paul refers to the foundation and power of God in 1 Corinthians as "Christ crucified". If you start there, it allows you to properly look back to the Old Testament and make the connections, be in the now and make the connections and look forward and make the connections. You get the proper context and weight of the atonement. Salvation is God's and God's alone. The faith you get from His grace being revealed to you is even a gift from Him (Ephesians 2)! That living faith has fruits, and those fruits are not in alignment with what Roman Catholic's teach, amongst other things.
I generally like Frank Turek but I def have noticed he is a bit afraid to criticize the issues with Catholicism. I think how bad his answer is on this shows how he is trying too hard to not offend Catholics, while deep down knowing.... hey that Catholic stuff just doesn't fit with the truth.
Dr. White seemingly made a frightening comment about circumcision. I’m certain he did not mean to communicate that circumcision cuts you off from God. The Apostle Paul was circumcised against his will also (he was 8 days old when it happened). He was making a reference to the Judaizers who went around telling gentiles that in order to be saved they had to believe Christ but also get circumcised and do a bunch of Jewish stuff; in other words, these Judaizers promoted faith + a bunch of works
Would we be committing sin if we gave the lady a Catholic Priest to comfort her ? I'm thinking about Jerimiah's message on Idolatry, about helping the Idol worshipper. Chapters 7 & 44 Dr. White I appreciate you. God Bless and Peace be with you.
Here is what you tell the woman. "Your mom is going to hell unless she accepts Christ as her savior through faith alone. You can make her feel better for a few minutes with a sacerdotal priest, but then she will go to hell for all of eternity. Explain this to your mom and preach the gospel to her." No sugar coating it.
Hey, I love these short videos of James White. Sometimes I would love to check the whole episode from Alpha and Omega Ministries. Is there a chance to include the source video in the description also. :D
Thanks Dr. White, it was your clear understanding of what Rome teaches and your many debates (I think I watched all available on UA-cam) that helped me leave the Baptist church to become Catholic. "Mere Christianity" isn't enough, praise God he gave us the sacraments and his church!
I'm not sure why anyone would claim that. If mere Christianity isn't enough than nothing is. It's like saying "mere JESUS sacrifice isn't enough, lets do all this other stuff to make it complete!"
9:50 15:00 - What saves you? “It’s the message that you believe in.” 20:30 - Christ’s imputed righteousness and the Gospel 20:55 , 21:35 , 21:42 , 21:47 - What is purgatory? Who is it for? Those who die in their sins? “Purgatory is for those who die in a state of grace… You must die in a state of grace; you must be justified. Purgatory is for the purging, not of the sins that you didn’t get forgiven, but of the temporal punishments of sins over against the type of punishment - mortal punishments - that destroy the grace of justification.” 22:05 - “If she’s afraid of dying in her sins, that’s a salvation issue, even for Roman Catholicism” 22:13 - “Satispaseo is the suffering of atonement in purgatory for the temporal punishments of sins, rather than the eternal punishments of sins.”
Could you or someone clarify what was said around the 15:30 mark about some Baptists not being saved and not believing in the Gospel? What are the difference between the Gospel that Baptists believe, and what the teachings are that mean they aren't saved?
You gotta clarify your comment on circumcision. My father did it for hygiene and I had no say. And you made a very bold and unclear statement that if you do circumcision your cut off from Christ. I am a saved born again and reformed Christian and circumcision does not cut me off from my eternal king. There's one unforgivable sin and it's not circumcision I don't believe circumcision is a sin but I don't believe it holds any spiritual meaning any longer but it does have other practical reasons to be done and because my dad did it for hygiene when I was a baby I am not any less open to salvation than you. I love you and your teachings so I really want you to clarify that statement cause I'm really confused by it
in context, galatians is about people forcing gentiles to be circumcised. Paul uses these people as an example of people who think that they are justified by the law. These people used the law incorrectly, Paul says the law is good for bringing forth the knowledge of sin, and the pseudo delphoy (false brothers) were saying that the law justifies. it doesn’t matter if you’re circumcised or not, because that isn’t what justifies, James White was saying that you aren’t justified by circumcision like the false brothers were saying. “For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.” Galatians 6:15 ESV hope that helped
The circumcision in Galatians is talking about a conversion procedure in the first century. It's refuted in Acts 15 as well, but then in Acts 16 Timothy is circumcised by Paul. There's a clear difference between the two circumcisions because it would not be completely rejected only for Paul to perform it afterwards. So ritual circumcision for conversion to a first century Judaism in order to inherit salvation by bloodline is the problematic circumcision but mere physical circumcision is okay.
a quick question - the church jesus established - and the church of the new testament speaks alot about bishops, presbtyrs which means priest and deacons - where is your bishop?
It absolutely does speak of bishops (overseers, elders), presbyters (elders, ministers, leaders) and deacons! All things that Reformed churches ordain.
John 20:21 Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I am sending you.” 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.”
@@dwong9289 Yeah, they have to pull the "declarative vs prescriptive" card. The same card James White pulls to deny passages that obviously teach you can fall out of grace.
“Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.
Verse 63 of the same passage shows Jesus explaining what He meant by those words: "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life." It is erroneous to view the elements as literal flesh and literal blood when Jesus Himself explained that these are Spiritual partakings, not physical.
@@zachbattles9762 “Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes” St Ignatius (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2-7:1 [A.D. 110]).
@@LightOfAllMankind The meaning of the words in John 6 is made clear by Jesus in the same passage: the food & drink He's speaking of is Spiritual. To consider it as literal is to err just as those who deserted Jesus that day. Your question has no bearing on the meaning of the passage.
“All I ever asked was you be merciful, back off sirs…work out your own salvation with God…careful your very judgment could be used against you……the lord will judge… not your denominations…..God knows our hearts and he doesn’t put a denomination in front of our name….some would want to stone this woman…..it’s easier to stone her than show mercy…..shame on us
The Gospel: Plain and Simple “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3 Ask someone today if they are saved and you will most likely hear responses like these: “I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de- termine whether or not a person actually knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what the gospel is and has left a devastating effect of people not knowing what it is that they are saved from nor how they are saved; which leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation. Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church sounding phrases that do not communicate anything. But rather present God’s word with clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel: plain and simple. Sin was passed upon all men by one man Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin (Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good works one might do we are still found sinners in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even one law we are found guilty. It is for this reason of not being able to create our own righteousness and being born in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus 3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross 2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath and judgement that was intended for us sinners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial, and resurrection on our behalf that we are able to have peace with God and forgiveness of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good news is unto all but only those that believe in it are made righteous in Christ (Romans 3:22). It is then after we have heard this good news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit and we are now part of Christ’s body the church (Eph 1:13) There is nothing that we need to do, no good works that are required, and no bad works that can separate us from our new position in Christ (Romans 8:35-39). Faith and belief in this information from God’s word is the gospel. The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your heart. The gospel is not making him lord of your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not being baptized with water. So next time someone asks you if you are saved. Give them the clear assured answer “Yes! And let me tell you why!” Find more free resources at: www.graceambassadors.com
First off, let ALL the saints pray for the sister in the beginning of the video. It's not enough to pontificate on theology (though I do that with the worst of them)> Love never fails, people! If you have resistant loved ones, don't give up. Keep talking, keep praying. Find common ground. Meet people at their doorway, not your own. For this is what the Lord does. And don't forget the promises of the Word of God: "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, you AND your house." (Acts 16:31) (under your roof, the blood of the Passover is sufficient.)
Apparently 'He is risen' is more accurately rendered as 'He has been raised'. God was satisfied. Romans 4 v 25 states: "He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification". Jesus was raised as the Father was satisfied with the atoning sacrifice (a one for all time sacrifice). So if the Father was satisfied with Jesus atoning sacrifice for my sins, to justify me, then I am satisfied too.
Call an LCMS pastor. We believe it's the body and blood, because Jesus says so. We recognize it as a means of grace through which there is a forgiveness of sins. There's nothing wrong with the woman's request.
I never did have any appreciation for Turek's work, but here, he sounds like he's more interested in being a comedian than a caring, conscientious slave of Christ.
While I know official Catholic teaching, I know some Catholic laymen/women and priests who are functional Lutheran or Anglican, and that makes the local Catholic parish attractive but I must judge it on official teaching and not so and so believe the Gospel.
Augustine Sermon 227 Then, after the consecration of the sacrifice of God, because he wanted us to be ourselves his sacrifice, which is indicated by where that sacrifice was first put, that is the sign of the thing that we are; why, then after the consecration is accomplished, we say the Lord's prayer, which you have received and given back. St. Augustine calls the mass a sacrifice and the Holy Eucharist a sacrament. So is he an idolater with a false gospel? Or is he right?
Lost respect for Frank Turek when he interviewed Mike Heiser, seems like he is to nice to people, he compromises when he does that, he does that in this video, does not point out faults in a false system, because he does not want to step on to many toes.
Nothing more than whats wrong with all of us. We're human. Sounds like some folks want to remove the plank from Mr. Franks or Heiser's eye before removing the spec in their own...
@@themexican1802 Big problem with Heiser is with Genesis 6, he redefines marriage, Heiser thinks the sons of God are angelic spiritual beings that took the daughters of men as wives. The sons of God are in Genesis 5. Heiser like many are blind and insert Mythology into Genesis 6.
@@themexican1802 Long Response for you I see sons of God as Adopted. The Septuagint a Greek version of the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament). Since the Greek is in play and in thought, what happened is a Interpretation error which leads to a Translation error, sons as angels is the error. The sons of God in Genesis 6 are Adopted Not Angels. In context Genesis 5 would be the sons of God in an Adopted Status not an Angelic status. This is how Mythology was inserted into Genesis 6 is because of Greek Mythology. Basically the scribes put Mythology thought into Genesis 6. The Greeks believed that Zeus (god of the sky) one of their pagan gods came down to earth, disguised himself as Amphitryon (Alcmene's husband), and seduced and impregnated Alcmene a mortal human women and she gave birth to Hercules, sounds like Genesis 6. Angels taking wives and producing half human and half angel demi-gods. Since there is a similarity with the Greek Myth of Zeus, Alcmene, and Hercules and the sons of God, daughters of men and Nephilim/Giants the Genesis 6:1-4 account. What happened is that to define the sons of God as angels because of the influence of Zeus. Zeus and angels are both heavenly beings so the thought of the sons of God became angels. Alcmene and daughters of men in Genesis 6, has the similarity of mortal and of flesh and a difference of Alcmene is singular and daughters of men is plural. Alcmene gave birth to Hercules and daughters of men gave birth to Nephilim/Giants Both the angel view of Genesis 6 and Mythology have a god or an angels from heaven or the sky coming down to impregnate a mortal human woman/ women and begot a demigod/demigods. Genesis 6: 1-4 "Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Most People just use these four verses, but they do not use the verse before or after. The whole context as to be applied. Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. NOTICE.>>>>>> "And" The word "And" is a conjunction that links to the previous verses of Genesis 6:1-4, Then the verse goes on to say "God saw the wickedness of man" The word "man" means human race or mankind......sooooo that is impossible for sons of God that are mentioned in the previous verses to be angels or spiritual beings, BECAUSE Verse 5 says "God saw the wickedness of man" Genesis 6: 6-7 "And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” Even verses 6 and 7 mentions man and destroying man, so God sent the flood to destroy man. Genesis 6: 8-9 " 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. 9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. Again have to use the New Testament to explain the sons of God in the Old Testament. Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God" Noah's Faith Hebrews 11: 6-7 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. 7 By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. Only a "Adopted" son of God would be an heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. Genesis 6:9 " This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a JUST man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God." The ONLY way Noah was a JUST man, perfect and walked with God is because of the Altar and the sacrifices Noah presented to God. Noah was a son of God because of his Faith . A person gets the word Justification from the word "JUST". God imputes righteousness and Justifies a Faithful person like Noah. How Noah is Just because he presented offerings on the Altar to God. The Altar was a form of worship, prayer and atoned for sin. To find Noah's offering on the Altar is found in Genesis 8 20 "Then Noah built an altar to the Lord, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar." These offerings to the Lord God was handed down from father to son, the sacrifices displayed Faith towards the Lord God. Abel presented them, Seth presented them and so did Noah. These sacrifices atoned for the sins of the Household of the person presenting them. Noah is an "Adopted" son of God. The names listed in Genesis 5 and the meaning of the names in Hebrew. Adam (Genesis 5: 3-5) Lived: 930 Years. Adam means “Man” Seth (Genesis 5: 3, 6-8) Lived: 912 Years. Seth means “put” or “appointed” or "Substitute" Enosh (Genesis 5: 6, 9-11) Lived: 905 Years. Enosh mean a " mortal man" Cainan (Genesis 5: 9, 12-14) Lived: 910 Years. Cainan means dwelling place Mahalalel (Genesis 5: 12, 15-18) Lived 895 Years. Mahalalel means "praise God or God be praised" Jared (Genesis 5: 15, 18-20) Lived 962 Years. Jared means "descend" Enoch (Genesis 5: 18, 21-24) Lived 365 Years/Translated never saw death. Enoch means "to initiate or discipline:-dedicate, train up" Methuselah (Genesis 5: 21, 25-27) Lived 969 Years. Methuselah means" [his] death will send away, cast out. Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lived 777 Years. Lamech means " to be low, depressed or grow poor or impoverished" Noah (Genesis 5: 28-29) Lived 950 Years. Noah’s name means "comfort or rest" Note: The "ONE" Family spared from the flood. Shem (Genesis 10: 10-11) Lived 600 Years. Shem's name means "renown, fame, famous" When putting the meaning of these names in a Phrase this is how it reads. Man [is] appointed a mortal man [in his] dwelling place. Praise God, [He] descended to discipline and train-up. [His] death will send away, cast out, the depressed, the despairing. The One [Jesus] will comfort us and give us rest renown name. All these Elders are considered Patriarchs. A Patriarch (noun)/ Patriarchs (plural noun) is defined as the male head of a family, tribe or tribes. From Adam to Jacob and even Job would be a Patriarch. Patriarchs are the sons of God, because of their Faith, Adoration, and Worship towards the True God while presenting a sacrifice or an offering to the Lord God.
”We will take a simple little verse and show you why it is not addressed to the natural man, Ecclesiastes 3:15: “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been; and God seeks what has been driven away.” The “natural man” cannot grasp that, for to him reality is based only on the evidence of the senses. The man of reason could justify the verse’s end, saying if it has any meaning then the writer must mean recurrence. The sun comes every day and the moon completes its cycle and the seasons come and go. If we took a picture of the universe today, the scientists can compute how long it will take to return to this point in the picture. So the intellectual man could justify the verse; but that is not what is meant, for it is addressed not to the man of reason or the man of sense, but to the man of Imagination. What is it all about? “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been, and God seeks what has been driven away.”
Neville Goddard Lecture - A Parabolic Revelation . . 06-6-1969 It is in you as a person that the nature of God is revealed, for a scriptural episode is not a record of an historical event, but a parabolic revelation of truth. To see Jesus or David as an historical character is to see truth tempered to the weakness of your soul. You must see what the characters represent, rather than the characters themselves. This is true for every story in scripture, for every episode will unfold within you.
1Co 12:3-5 Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit. Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord; I think if determinists can call Jesus Lord but deny free will, Catholics can get a bunch of stuff wrong too. (I know I am about to get the flame thrower)
@@myinternetname5911 well Steve if you had actually watched this video you would know that Rev White spoke frequently about the Reformers in it. But since you asked, I’ll let you do the homework on what Jesus would say from these verses. And with support from various Apostles as well. John 3:3-8; John 3:16; John 14:6; Peter in Acts 4:12; Paul in Acts 17:30-31; Paul in Romans 6:23; 5:8: 10:9-10, 13. I don’t see anything about a Roman sacrament when it comes to salvation in Christ and Him alone. Some of us do know what we’re talking about. Do you?
@@ronr1094 Yes, I do. For example, I know that the acronym TULIP isn’t included in the scriptures. In addition, I know Calvinists resort to ad hominem attacks when someone disagrees with them. Oh, also I know Jesus said to remove the plank from your own eye before removing the splinter from your brother’s eye.
@@myinternetname5911 TULIP was a later invention as Calvin as far as I know had nothing to do with that. It’s said that he would never have called himself a Calvinist. Nevertheless, the Doctrines of Grace are true. And best match Scripture and the the Christian life according to Scripture. Something to be said about that Scripture alone one! You asked a question above. I didn’t see it as ad hominem as much as you think. But I was addressing the content of the video itself. Superstition and false claims are running rampant in evangelicalism these days and Turek was a great illustration of this.
@@myinternetname5911 TULIP is an acronym for a summary of many doctrines from scripture, all people are totally depraved and totally dead to sin until they are regenerated by the holy spirit, unconditional election comes from Ephesians 1 where Paul calls christians predestined and elect, peter calls christians elect by God, etc. Limited Atonement is all based on Gods sovereign election, God justified those he predestined and those he predestined he also glorified, God chose who Jesus would die for before the creation of the world. Irresistible grace is also undeniable from scripture, those he predestined he glorified. and preservation of the saints is the P, God, in his sovereignty has elected people since before the creation of the world, the son justified those elect, and the spirit preserves those through sanctification. Tulip is entirely biblical, all you have to do is open your bible.
I stopped following Frank Turek when I found out he is good friends with Rick Warren. The things he said on that video to that woman are highly disturbing! Very sad 😔
Much love and respect to that Catholic mother sticking to her beliefs - it's clear that the daughter is entirely misinformed on what Catholics believe.
I do think many Catholics are Christians even though they believe in some unbiblical rituals. The question is are they trusting in Christ or their own works to save them, I would ask that. I think that would’ve been a better question than what Frank asked. If she thinks she must confess to a priest in order to go heaven that’s a big red flag.
Wait isn't the gospel really that simple? I thought it was just that God came as a man named Jesus he lived a perfect life died on the cross for our sins he rose again on the third Day. If you believe that your saved and given eternal life correct?
The problem is that Rome’s additions to the gospel make theirs a false gospel that doesn’t save. The apostle Paul tells us to let them be accursed if they preach a different gospel.
its like im hearing all these different religious leaders talkinjg about how bad the world is right now wiuth covid and to do your best in it. i dont hear anyone explaining the gospel, the sovereignty of god or his wrath thats being poured out on this earth and will be poured out fully in eternity. like please tell people the gospel because even if the world goes back to normal they are still at enmity to god and under his wrath thats being poured in good, bad and every other time as he deems fit topour it out.
My 88 yo neighbor felt great after getting the last rights from his priest. That’s what he told me. He apparently felt great about his eternal destiny.
Can’t forget about repentance. With true belief comes repentance. “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” 1 John 1:8-10 ESV “Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.” 1 John 2:4-6 ESV
So do we need to have perfect theology and a FULL understanding of Christ's sacrifice in every way to be saved? Her blindness to the fact that she should have peace already, should not be a reason for her not to be saved. The gospel is rather simple isn't it? We are judged according to what we know from God's perspective. The moms confusion and devotion to her Catholic man made teachings do not affect God's reality on how we are saved; in this context. We all have blind spots don't we? For whatever reasons. We all do. JW shed some light and had some solid thinking points, but certain semantics to a point are just that, semantics. This should be discussed rather. TY
I’ve noticed some thing interesting that the Calvinist will preach a holiness that I’m sure they do not practice and the fundamentalist will be honest and say no holiness is required for salvation and yet I’m sure they do more works in our more wholly than a Calvinist. If it is true that a Christian will be allowed into heaven with active sins on his soul then the standard for salvation is not the lack of sins on the soul at the presence of something else the gift. The irrevocable gift. If the thoughts and intentions of man’s heart are only evil continually then salvation won’t exactly change that but will change the penalty of that. And here is where the Calvinist gets into a gray area they will say you are being conformed to the image of Christ overtime. The problem is that ends up looking different from person to person so that can’t be the standard. If God will condemn the wicked for both great and small sins Alike and is justified forgiven at the moment of belief, Then the putting off of sins will never be what saves someone
As a former RC who got saved and spent 25 years in the Arminiast camp, and Is now a committed Calvinist, I can assure you do not understand reformed theology. Actually you don't understand the work of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer according to some of your comments.
@@amichiganblackman3200 You’re correct. I may indeed have smuggled in an assumption, But I know the “reformed crowd” or the “new calvinists” so called. Super cool, super trendy, they’re the cool smart table. I’ve listened to them very closely for years. And I cannot hop on the repentance standard preach. It’s too inconsistent. Most everything else when it comes to election, predestination, total sovereignty I can follow the logic I can see the plain meaning of the biblical letters. But the reformed crowd seems conflicted with total deprav the inability the submit to God to be saved and yet the requirement to stop sins in order to be saved. How can I tell you you must stop X and I’m still doing Y and he’s still doing Z?
@@mariosangermano5709 I understand. The Holy Spirit conforms you to the image of Christ. “I will cleanse you, you will be clean”. Old covenant promises, the elect, a people for my own possession…I couldn’t possibly read any more in depth on this. My head will explode if I get through another edwards or pink section 🤣. Nevertheless, that one single ifb objection is so simple…. No one would dare suggest they have repented of all their sins, we all know all men are equal before the cross. The gift is bestowed freely and the gift is the standard. And at the consummation there will be sins that each and every person will enter having been active. Whether it be lying, cowardice, gluttony, unforgivness, the list goes on. How can those sins be forgiven?
People are different, with different strengths and weaknesses. Of course people arent all going to look the same when conforming to christ because everyone is made differently by God. If you were to put an aspect of holiness like faith on a scale from 1-10, 10 being really good, everyone would naturally fall all over that spectrum, some having more natural faith than others. Introduce the Holy Spirit and now you have people moving on that scale towards a 10. But one person may have started at a 6 while another person at 3. So not everyone is going to look the same while being sanctified because everyone started at different places.
Never seen frank this way off before I believe he would go back on this if he remembers what paul said about circumcision. You can’t serve to masters either which this woman’s mother is doing.
I have noticed he seems to be pretty uninterested in criticism of catholicism issues. It def seems to be his weak spot where he tries to shoehorn in the problems of catholacism as if theya re ok, when you can tell by how poorly he does it I don't think deep down he even believes they are ok.
The Septuagint a Greek version of the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament). Since the Greek is in play and in thought, what happened is a Interpretation error which leads to a Translation error, sons as angels is the error. The sons of God in Genesis 6 are Adopted Not Angels. In context Genesis 5 would be the sons of God in an Adopted Status not an Angelic status. This is how Mythology was inserted into Genesis 6 is because of Greek Mythology. Basically the scribes put Mythology thought into Genesis 6. The Greeks believed that Zeus (god of the sky) one of their pagan gods came down to earth, disguised himself as Amphitryon (Alcmene's husband), and seduced and impregnated Alcmene a mortal human women and she gave birth to Hercules, sounds like Genesis 6. Angels taking wives and producing half human and half angel demi-gods. Since there is a similarity with the Greek Myth of Zeus, Alcmene, and Hercules and the sons of God, daughters of men and Nephilim/Giants the Genesis 6:1-4 account. What happened is that to define the sons of God as angels because of the influence of Zeus. Zeus and angels are both heavenly beings so the thought of the sons of God became angels. Alcmene and daughters of men in Genesis 6, has the similarity of mortal and of flesh and a difference of Alcmene is singular and daughters of men is plural. Alcmene gave birth to Hercules and daughters of men gave birth to Nephilim/Giants Both the angel view of Genesis 6 and Mythology have a god or an angels from heaven or the sky coming down to impregnate a mortal human woman/ women and begot a demigod/demigods. Genesis 6: 1-4 "Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose. 3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown. Most People just use these four verses, but they do not use the verse before or after. The whole context as to be applied. Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. NOTICE.>>>>>> "And" The word "And" is a conjunction that links to the previous verses of Genesis 6:1-4, Then the verse goes on to say "God saw the wickedness of man" The word "man" means human race or mankind......sooooo that is impossible for sons of God that are mentioned in the previous verses to be angels or spiritual beings, BECAUSE Verse 5 says "God saw the wickedness of man" Genesis 6: 6-7 "And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” Even verses 6 and 7 mentions man and destroying man, so God sent the flood to destroy man. Genesis 6: 8-9 " 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. 9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. Again have to use the New Testament to explain the sons of God in the Old Testament. Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God" Noah's Faith Hebrews 11: 6-7 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. 7 By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. Only a "Adopted" son of God would be an heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. Genesis 6:9 " This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a JUST man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God." The ONLY way Noah was a JUST man, perfect and walked with God is because of the Altar and the sacrifices Noah presented to God. Noah was a son of God because of his Faith . A person gets the word Justification from the word "JUST". God imputes righteousness and Justifies a Faithful person like Noah. How Noah is Just because he presented offerings on the Altar to God. The Altar was a form of worship, prayer and atoned for sin. To find Noah's offering on the Altar is found in Genesis 8 20 "Then Noah built an altar to the Lord, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar." These offerings to the Lord God was handed down from father to son, the sacrifices displayed Faith towards the Lord God. Abel presented them, Seth presented them and so did Noah. These sacrifices atoned for the sins of the Household of the person presenting them. Noah is an "Adopted" son of God. The names listed in Genesis 5 and the meaning of the names in Hebrew. Adam (Genesis 5: 3-5) Lived: 930 Years. Adam means “Man” Seth (Genesis 5: 3, 6-8) Lived: 912 Years. Seth means “put” or “appointed” or "Substitute" Enosh (Genesis 5: 6, 9-11) Lived: 905 Years. Enosh mean a " mortal man" Cainan (Genesis 5: 9, 12-14) Lived: 910 Years. Cainan means dwelling place Mahalalel (Genesis 5: 12, 15-18) Lived 895 Years. Mahalalel means "praise God or God be praised" Jared (Genesis 5: 15, 18-20) Lived 962 Years. Jared means "descend" Enoch (Genesis 5: 18, 21-24) Lived 365 Years/Translated never saw death. Enoch means "to initiate or discipline:-dedicate, train up" Methuselah (Genesis 5: 21, 25-27) Lived 969 Years. Methuselah means" [his] death will send away, cast out. Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lived 777 Years. Lamech means " to be low, depressed or grow poor or impoverished" Noah (Genesis 5: 28-29) Lived 950 Years. Noah’s name means "comfort or rest" Note: The "ONE" Family spared from the flood. Shem (Genesis 10: 10-11) Lived 600 Years. Shem's name means "renown, fame, famous" When putting the meaning of these names in a Phrase this is how it reads. Man [is] appointed a mortal man [in his] dwelling place. Praise God, [He] descended to discipline and train-up. [His] death will send away, cast out, the depressed, the despairing. The One [Jesus] will comfort us and give us rest renown name. All these Elders are considered Patriarchs. A Patriarch (noun)/ Patriarchs (plural noun) is defined as the male head of a family, tribe or tribes. From Adam to Jacob and even Job would be a Patriarch. Patriarchs are the sons of God, because of their Faith, Adoration, and Worship towards the True God while presenting a sacrifice or an offering to the Lord God.
Romans 10 tells us that the Jews missed out on salvation because they tried to establish their own righteousness instead of trusting in the righteousness of Christ. Catholics are doing the same thing.
So wrong, so wrong. 2 Peter 3:16 tells us that Paul's writing are difficult and misunderstood. Why? Because a lot of people lack context of Paul's writings. Many don't care to know, they fall into the trap of lamestream christianity. Which teaches they replaced Israel as His possession.
@@philblagden It all started back in Daniel's time. He gave us a prophecy that was fulfilled in 325A.D. A prophecy that changed Christianity into not christianity. There are some parts that are right, but so very much that isn't. Parts that help the pastors of today teach Paul all wrong. Interestingly: here's a question most Christians struggle to answer. Jesus did it. The apostles did it. Even after He ascended they still did it. Christians, do they do it? No way! They say: If you do your not truly saved! If you are seeking the truth no matter what then read on and consider that it's one of the prophecies that has been fulfilled. Lets consider what Daniel 7: 25 says: "He will intend to change religious festivals & laws." Which festivals was Daniel referring too? He never heard of Xmas, valentine's day or Thanksgiving. He knew about feast of booths, feast of weeks & passover. Perhaps those festivals were changed just like he prophecied. Well, the council of nicea happened in 325A.D, is that when they changed? Yep! After the changes is when we have the early Christians tortured and ripped apart by lions......... Why would "believers" of the 21st century follow the things that upset Daniel so much? 2 Cor 6:14-17 ...For what partnership is there between righteousness & lawlessness ..... therefore come out from among them, to be separate, don't touch anything unclean... When you change Gods laws, that's called lawlessness. So you see God is bringing judgement. Judgement is good, bringing correction, which brings us closer to God. So when your church gets shut down or restricted don't blame God, praise Him, and blame the forefathers who changed "the way". Then ask God to help change you back to His Holy days and His Holy ways before the council of nicea happened.
@@qw2ps4 So let me get this straight? People are going to hell for celebrating Christmas and Thanksgiving? And this is what Daniel was referring to when he talks about the ruler that seeks to change times and laws? I wasn't talking about this but talking about salvation by grace alone through faith alone versus salvation by human effort and works. Are you saying that salvation must be based on strict observance of the law? Are you a Seventh Day Adventist? I'm confused.
@@philblagden No I'm not SDA No to strict adherence to the law for salvation. The pharisees taught that, Jesus corrected them and they didn't like it. I'm pointing out that Gods ways were changed and that should set off alarm bells. The Council of Nicea consisted of the earliest Catholics which met where they made those changes. The protestants tried to break away but in the end they went with that doctrine. As believers we will be held accountable for our actions. The fact is that Israel tried many times to worship God their own way, failing every time. Then they would return to the ways of God and then they were blessed. Now on the subject will they go to hell for celebrating mans holy days, well that should be a no brainer. But .....
Wait I'm circumcised was not my decision. I am cut off from Christ? I believe that I'm saved but your telling me I'm cut off from Christ because I'm circumcised?
That’s what the Judaizers said in the early days of the church. One of the “works” these Judaizers (who were not saved because they trusted their works along with Christ) claimed was necessary for salvation was circumcision. Basically the Judaizers believed that in order to be saved, you had to believe in Christ but also do a bunch of other stuff, so that salvation was not in Christ alone. This is clearly false. Circumcision in and of itself does not cut you off from Christ, but believing that you must be circumcised to be saved is a problem
I like Frank, but have to admit he doesn’t look good here. Perhaps Frank is having a hard time accepting that his own Catholic mother may not know the true Gospel or be truly saved, so he convinces himself that the rituals don’t matter, etc. Just a thought.
Well anybody can nipick any little thing you said years ago and use it against you. Which is what this video is. But yes Turek does seem too have a soft spot for Catholicism.
At 7:40 Frank Turek says there is no reason to argue about the idea that Catholics are eating the flesh of the Christ and drinking the blood of the Christ in the Eucharist. The apostles in Jerusalem wrote a letter to Gentile Christians telling them to *abstain from blood.* *"You are to abstain* from food sacrificed to idols, *from blood,* from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things." (Acts 15 : 29) The Jewish Christians were already abstaining from blood because the Law commanded them to never eat blood (Deuteronomy 12 : 23 - 25 and Leviticus 17 : 10 - 14) Peter was among those apostles who told the Church to abstain from blood, yet the Catholic church tells Catholics they are drinking the actual blood of the Christ when they have the Eucharist. The Catholic church is so wrong. Does Frank Turek not know that drinking/eating blood is in direct disobedience to what God commanded the Church through the apostles?
Jesus Christ commanded: (1) Love GOD and (2) Love other people. The only way a human being can show that It loves GOD is by loving other people. Jesus Christ made this clear with the parable of of the Samaritan and other stories. Basically, do your best to be reasonably good to other human beings, and GOD will judge the rest. Jesus Christ made religion VERY EASY. Don't believe the modern day pharisees who want to imprison people with mindless rituals and unnecessary beliefs.
You Protestants crack me up. You say that we’re saved by faith alone (A term that only appears once when it is condemned in James 2:24) and say that a person is misunderstanding the gospel when they think their works matter at all and anything else matters but their faith. But then you see people that have faith like devout Catholics and Orthodox and you say actually never mind you’re not saved by faith alone. You’re saved by faith in faith alone alone. So suddenly unconditional election becomes quite conditional. But then you, Ryan take it a step further. You say that Frank Turek isn’t saved because he doesnt believe in your doctrine of salvation by faith in faith alone alone. So now your new doctrine of salvation is salvation by faith in faith in faith alone alone alone. How far does this go. If somebody says Turek is saved are they now danmed by the doctrine of salvation by faith in faith in faith in faith alone alone alone alone.
so you are still deceived by a translation from Jehovah Witness @@bman5257 ? it have been DEBUNKED many times by protestants, if you really use your head to think and search something in original manuscript, the term in james 2:24 is "Not Only By Faith",and not "Faith Alone",The term is not there, the word "justified" is also different,there are numerous way to use the word "justified" in the bible, your works-based Salvation will not save you at all,and here is why you are going to hell together with Frank Turek Romans 11:6 But if it is (Salvation) by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; OTHERWISE grace would no longer be grace. this verses tells us this:since a person is saved by grace,and if you Personally think you are saved by works,then this is not Grace,and since you think you are not saved by grace,then you are denying the fact that we are saved by grace,so you are denying Grace another verses is this,this is the proof that our WORKS is God's WORKS in a true believer: Philippians 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always OBEYED, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, WORK out YOUR OWN salvation with fear and trembling, FOR it is GOD who works IN YOU, both to will and to work for HIS good pleasure. Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, NOT a result of WORKS, so that no one may boast. we are Justified by Faith Alone,Christ Alone,Grace Alone,james chapter 2 is talking about justification BEFORE MEN,Thomas Aquinas believe this,Thomas aquinas,a super famous catholic scholar,claim that book of romans is the proof that we are not Justified by works of the law,"works of the law" is synonym of Works/Good works Matthew 7:12 "So WHATEVER you wish that others would do to you, DO also to them, for this is the LAW and the Prophets. we are justified by Faith apart From Works of the Law/Works/Good Works/whatever Titus 3:5 he saved us, NOT because of WORKS done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit, may God drag you... john 6
@@bman5257 the point is what is a persons, Roman Catholic or otherwise, truly in? If it is anything other than Christ’s redemption by dying for our sins once and rising from the dead to conquer death, it is a false Gospel. Belief in any ritual whether it be snake handling, eating a certain wafer only blessed by a certain person, reading the Bible, does not SAVE us from Hell. If I have to check any other box to know I’m going to Heaven, besides having true faith that Jesus paid my debt, that is self reliance and a works based gospel. Yes, our works play a part in our judgment on the Bema seat, but that plays no roll in our heavenly or hell eternal resting place.
@@ManlyServant Oh goodness my friend you have so much so wrong. First off the translation of James 2:24 as “justified by works, and not by faith alone” is not a Jehovah Witness idiosyncrasy. It is a mainstream translation used by Protestants “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” (James 2:24, ESV). I agree that my initial justification is not on the basis of my works, that my works or faith do not merit justification but that it is by grace. So I agree with you on Romans 11:6 and Ephesians 2. The Catholic position is not that a person is “saved by works” as you keep alleging, it is that they are justified by grace and then once justified a person has to obey commandments. “If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” (Matthew 19:17) You quote from Romans 11 later in that chapter he warns Christians in the Roman Church that they can lose their salvation. “Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.” (Romans 11:22) When Paul talks about justified by faith and not works of the law. He is obviously talking about the Law/Instruction/Torah of the mosaic covenant and he was fighting against the Judaizer heresy, which said you must follow the mosaic law to be justified. If you’re a reformed Christian you also believe that once a person has faith they can’t lose their salvation. “THEY BELIEVE for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away.” Luke 8:13. “For if we sin willfully after having received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth NO MORE sacrifice for sins,” Hebrews 10:26
@The if I took a stab at it I'd say someone who elevates what someone thinks about christ above their faith in him. You don't need all correct beliefs for thev magic of salvation to happen, otherwise we'd all be screwed. I suppose to put it in a fancy way legalism is when teleology exalts over ontology.
@@jeremiahtassinari1743 What reason do you have that it only applies to the Apostles? There is a long history of the exact opposite: The Didache 70AD was a compilation of the teachings of the Apostles and it said “Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure” (Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70]). St. Ignatius of Antioch, the direct disciple of St. John says “For as many as are of God and of Jesus Christ are also with the bishop. And as many as shall, in the exercise of penance, return into the unity of the Church, these, too, shall belong to God, that they may live according to Jesus Christ” (Letter to the Philadelphians 3 [A.D. 110]). St. Ambrose teaches “For those to whom [the right of binding and loosing] has been given, it is plain that either both are allowed, or it is clear that neither is allowed. Both are allowed to the Church, neither is allowed to heresy. For this right has been granted to priests only” (Penance 1:1 [A.D. 388]). St. Augustine teaches “When you shall have been baptized, keep to a good life in the commandments of God so that you may preserve your baptism to the very end. I do not tell you that you will live here without sin, but they are venial sins which this life is never without. Baptism was instituted for all sins. For light sins, without which we cannot live, prayer was instituted. . . . But do not commit those sins on account of which you would have to be separated from the body of Christ. Perish the thought! For those whom you see doing penance have committed crimes, either adultery or some other enormities. That is why they are doing penance. If their sins were light, daily prayer would suffice to blot them out. . . . In the Church, therefore, there are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptisms, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance” (Sermon to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15, 8:16 [A.D. 395]). The Catholic Church is the fullness of truth.
@@dwong9289 none of those quotes are form scripture. The apostle Paul never commands such for the church. We should confess our sins to each other but God is the one who forgives. God, as the forgiver, through Jesus Christ, is painted as the one who forgives sins The apostles has special authority that is not for us today. 1 John 1:9, Acts 2, Acts 13, 1 Cor 15, Hebrews 8:12, Hebrews 10:17, Colossians 3:13
@@jeremiahtassinari1743 The very disciples of the Apostles taught otherwise. The people one degree of separation from St John taught about the sacrament of confession. Even the Scriptures in John 20:23 teach confession. Your falsely interpret that the Apostle's unique role somehow invalidates the sacrament of confession. Why would only the Apostles need to forgive sins? 1 Cor 6:9 teaches us that believers who commit mortal sins such as idolatry, fornication, homosexuality, etc. will not enter into the kingdom of heaven. So, the sacrament of confession would be applicable throughout all time. The idea that confession only occurred with the Apostles is an ad hoc reason that was developed to support the heresy of the reformation. Every Catholic, Orthodox, and even Lutherans realizes that the Apostle's have unique authority yet they also teach about Confession. Confession is an authority passed down through apostolic succession through the laying on of hands at ordination, so the power derives from Christ to the Apostles and their disciples. There is a lot to discuss, but I will just link articles that explain it better than I can: www.catholic.com/qa/did-the-apostles-ordain-priests www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/how-to-defend-the-sacrament-of-confession www.catholic.com/tract/confession
@@dwong9289 again sir,if it's not rooted in scripture, I will not believe it. Just like the Bereans searched the scriptures to see what they were told is true, so should we.
"1343 thats why they hate doctrine because it has to divide just like it has been meant to thats why the holy spirit wrote through paul the epistles to get things right that were out of kilt. so if its good enough for the holy spirit who is the teacher of truth then its gotta be good for those who are born again by him. he leads into all truth. if you dont like the truth then god send a strong delusion upon you. 2thess2:9-11.
Yeah I just think people are always looking for someone else to disprove or condone another person so that they can feel better about who they watch. Doesn't mean both are wrong or right.
"Turek in no way suggested circumcision." This genuinely makes it sound like this is the first time you've ever heard a person examine and challenge a position with questions and examples.
That guy in the video is amazingly ignorant. We're dealing with the issue of ETERNAL destination here and while giving a wrong answer that has to do with ETERNAL DESTINY.. cheeseburger and gummy bears? to lighten the atmosphere (because that's so important right?) That guy will be held accountable before God for this soul with blood on his hands. (and others you have influenced with false info and having put up the video for thousands of others to watch and learn from)
Brother it's pathetic and this is a lesson for us to study the word fervently and teach only the word. The brother talking is a fine scholar, solid and has tremendously been a blessing to the body of Christ but He gets it very wrong here. He might have good intentions but what the listeners are hearing is very different
So he made an mistake years ago, yes the videos is years old and you guys condemn him instead of praying for him? What then does that speak about you and your hearts? "For with whatever judgement you judge, you will be judged"
There is a huge difference between pointing error and condemning someone. Personally, and to date, I still use resources from Turek. He has done a great job in apologetics but nevertheless he gave an erroneous answer here. My comment personally charge us to be students of the word so that we won't trust persons instead of truth. Love you bro.
respectfully, how holy can a catholic priest be? Paul said that there are none good, none seek after God, no righteous people. “rites of passage” are exactly the thing James White is talking about, if you must have rites of passage performed, then you are not trusting in the finished work of Christ. Please repent and trust Christ, you can not add anything to the work of Christ and if you think you can, you will taint your salvation and will be thrown away.
This guy is quick to harshly without love correct a brother in Christ for perceived error but will bend over backwards to be loved by blasphemous Muslim and jihadis and side with them agains other brothers in Christ.
No question about it, but it doesn't prevent us from presenting the true Gospel to those who are believing a lie - for as long as the book of Galatians remains in the Canon of Scripture, we have to.
@@magicberu well, I hear you. But we need to look at the entirety of scripture. I like Dr. White, but he's got his share of errors and problems just like any other Christian leader.
Only those born again! no one else following a false gospel will be in heaven. We are saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone! And unless you are trusting in the finished work of Christ, you aren't saved! And the gospel call is repent and believe!
You’re really being far too ingenuous towards Frank Turek here James… not only does Turek’s response betray a poor grasp of Romanism, but it betrays a hopeless grasp of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which is where your critique really ought to have been focussed But what you failed to attend to, is this - how would YOU have answered this lady?
@@danielomitted1867 they weren't adding it on, already existed as part of their faith and were trying to impose it on the gentiles, however Paul when even addressing that particular matter wasn't even arguing the merits of that tradition/law, because he knew it is in the law of moses. He simply saying those traditions only would make it harder for gentiles to convert. However none of this was my original point, the main point of contention with the Jews with Paul and the apostles, was the fact that the Jews didn't even believe Yeshua was the son of God to begin with hense why there was no reason to even argue the purpose or merits of the law.
@@donaldthomas9217 you have no clue what youre talking about. They were trying to add it to the Christian faith. Paul didnt accuse them of misunderstanding who Jesus was he accused them of destroying the nature of grace. Youre adding that in despite galatians never once stating that.
@@danielomitted1867 well for one not only for I have clue of what I'm talking about but furthermore I have no respect for anyone, especially a so called Christian who has to try and attack someone's intelligence instead of the idea itself. I don't agree with all lot of people but I never call them stupid or a fool because I disagree, but because you did only proves that you're the one with no clue.
@@donaldthomas9217 I did. Im simply pointing out what youre accusing these people of isnt what Paul accused them of and isnt found absolutely anywhere within the text of Galatians.
Why are the Calvinist always the most judgmental out of all the protestants? It's so easy too nipick some mistake someone made years ago and everyone in the comments acting like they're so much better than Turek... so much for loving Christians....
Brother White you are a true Biblical teacher. Most Christian apologetics are using worldly knowledge more than biblical knowledge. Brother many Christians doesn't like you bcos you're a true Christian.
No he isn't. He speaks of himself.
@@koreshdabar-yhwh3588 how do you mean?
@@koreshdabar-yhwh3588 I guess you don't watch the full video. Please watch it carefully.
I’m so thankful for your ministry Dr. White.
This one was a really bad look for Frank Turek. He literally gave that woman no help.
The only help he could have given to her in this sad situation is pray for her mother so that maybe God would let her see the truth and would believe it.
@@nikokapanen82 the truth has to be presented to her in order for God to do that, though. That's what Christians are supposes to do.
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True but the way i understood, her daughter tried to do that but she just refuse to get it and was requesting a special catholic priest to get her sins forgiven.
Niko, the help he could have given her is the truth of the gospel.
Thank you SOOO much for commenting on this video Dr. White! I was really wondering what your comment would be, right what I thought and more excellent points.
I’d like to ask Mr. Turek ...did Moses tell the Israelites, as long as you believe in my God then do whatever rituals you want with that golden calf?
I don’t understand why Dr. Turek didn’t really answer the question when the answer is so simple. Present the true gospel.
@Messenger Charles Either that or because he knows it will cause his fan base to shrink.
can't offend anyone
Spot on. This is why Paul refers to the foundation and power of God in 1 Corinthians as "Christ crucified". If you start there, it allows you to properly look back to the Old Testament and make the connections, be in the now and make the connections and look forward and make the connections. You get the proper context and weight of the atonement. Salvation is God's and God's alone. The faith you get from His grace being revealed to you is even a gift from Him (Ephesians 2)! That living faith has fruits, and those fruits are not in alignment with what Roman Catholic's teach, amongst other things.
I generally like Frank Turek but I def have noticed he is a bit afraid to criticize the issues with Catholicism. I think how bad his answer is on this shows how he is trying too hard to not offend Catholics, while deep down knowing.... hey that Catholic stuff just doesn't fit with the truth.
It’s funny how White is taking a harder stance than Turek, but White speaks more accurately about the Mass, and understands Catholic teaching better.
He's more accurate on both issues
Dr. White seemingly made a frightening comment about circumcision. I’m certain he did not mean to communicate that circumcision cuts you off from God. The Apostle Paul was circumcised against his will also (he was 8 days old when it happened). He was making a reference to the Judaizers who went around telling gentiles that in order to be saved they had to believe Christ but also get circumcised and do a bunch of Jewish stuff; in other words, these Judaizers promoted faith + a bunch of works
Gal 5:2-4, Paul is speaking of circumcision as a means of being justified by the Law. That’s what Dr. White was referring to.
Would we be committing sin if we gave the lady a Catholic Priest to comfort her ?
I'm thinking about Jerimiah's message on Idolatry, about helping the Idol worshipper. Chapters 7 & 44
Dr. White I appreciate you.
God Bless and Peace be with you.
Here is what you tell the woman. "Your mom is going to hell unless she accepts Christ as her savior through faith alone. You can make her feel better for a few minutes with a sacerdotal priest, but then she will go to hell for all of eternity. Explain this to your mom and preach the gospel to her." No sugar coating it.
Hey, I love these short videos of James White. Sometimes I would love to check the whole episode from Alpha and Omega Ministries. Is there a chance to include the source video in the description also. :D
Thanks Dr. White, it was your clear understanding of what Rome teaches and your many debates (I think I watched all available on UA-cam) that helped me leave the Baptist church to become Catholic. "Mere Christianity" isn't enough, praise God he gave us the sacraments and his church!
I'm not sure why anyone would claim that. If mere Christianity isn't enough than nothing is. It's like saying "mere JESUS sacrifice isn't enough, lets do all this other stuff to make it complete!"
Pure Gospel here. Love it.
On point bro...
Frank is soft in catholicism.
Im with you here.
thank you Brother
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15:00 - What saves you? “It’s the message that you believe in.”
20:30 - Christ’s imputed righteousness and the Gospel
20:55 , 21:35 , 21:42 , 21:47 - What is purgatory? Who is it for? Those who die in their sins?
“Purgatory is for those who die in a state of grace… You must die in a state of grace; you must be justified. Purgatory is for the purging, not of the sins that you didn’t get forgiven, but of the temporal punishments of sins over against the type of punishment - mortal punishments - that destroy the grace of justification.”
22:05 - “If she’s afraid of dying in her sins, that’s a salvation issue, even for Roman Catholicism”
22:13 - “Satispaseo is the suffering of atonement in purgatory for the temporal punishments of sins, rather than the eternal punishments of sins.”
Could you or someone clarify what was said around the 15:30 mark about some Baptists not being saved and not believing in the Gospel? What are the difference between the Gospel that Baptists believe, and what the teachings are that mean they aren't saved?
@The thank you for the clarification.
@The there is a very big difference between Catholic and Baptist. So sad Frank Turek we should pray for him
exactly. when I heard Frank Turek say this, I immediately placed him on the apostate list
Nobody cares about your meaningless list, the only list that matters is God's.
Apostate list? You don’t think Frank is saved based of off his response?
🎶 "He's writing a list... he's checking it twice!" 🎶
Yes, let's talk about it in the big studio.
You gotta clarify your comment on circumcision. My father did it for hygiene and I had no say. And you made a very bold and unclear statement that if you do circumcision your cut off from Christ. I am a saved born again and reformed Christian and circumcision does not cut me off from my eternal king. There's one unforgivable sin and it's not circumcision I don't believe circumcision is a sin but I don't believe it holds any spiritual meaning any longer but it does have other practical reasons to be done and because my dad did it for hygiene when I was a baby I am not any less open to salvation than you. I love you and your teachings so I really want you to clarify that statement cause I'm really confused by it
He's talking about the book of Galatians when the judaizers where forci g circumcision on gentile new believers.
in context, galatians is about people forcing gentiles to be circumcised. Paul uses these people as an example of people who think that they are justified by the law. These people used the law incorrectly, Paul says the law is good for bringing forth the knowledge of sin, and the pseudo delphoy (false brothers) were saying that the law justifies. it doesn’t matter if you’re circumcised or not, because that isn’t what justifies, James White was saying that you aren’t justified by circumcision like the false brothers were saying. “For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.”
Galatians 6:15 ESV
hope that helped
The circumcision in Galatians is talking about a conversion procedure in the first century. It's refuted in Acts 15 as well, but then in Acts 16 Timothy is circumcised by Paul. There's a clear difference between the two circumcisions because it would not be completely rejected only for Paul to perform it afterwards. So ritual circumcision for conversion to a first century Judaism in order to inherit salvation by bloodline is the problematic circumcision but mere physical circumcision is okay.
a quick question - the church jesus established - and the church of the new testament speaks alot about bishops, presbtyrs which means priest and deacons - where is your bishop?
Bishop is used interchangeably with elder in the NT. It just means Pastor(s) essentially.
It absolutely does speak of bishops (overseers, elders), presbyters (elders, ministers, leaders) and deacons! All things that Reformed churches ordain.
John 20:21 Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I am sending you.” 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.”
Heretics all hate the Catholic Church because it is a Divine Institution.
@@dwong9289 Yeah, they have to pull the "declarative vs prescriptive" card. The same card James White pulls to deny passages that obviously teach you can fall out of grace.
“Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them.
Verse 63 of the same passage shows Jesus explaining what He meant by those words:
"It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life."
It is erroneous to view the elements as literal flesh and literal blood when Jesus Himself explained that these are Spiritual partakings, not physical.
@@zachbattles9762
“Take note of those who hold heterodox opinions on the grace of Jesus Christ which has come to us, and see how contrary their opinions are to the mind of God. . . . They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which that Father, in his goodness, raised up again. They who deny the gift of God are perishing in their disputes” St Ignatius (Letter to the Smyrnaeans 6:2-7:1 [A.D. 110]).
@@LightOfAllMankind Yes, His spiritual flesh, not His literal flesh, just as Jesus taught.
@@zachbattles9762 was it spiritual flesh or literal flesh that suffered and rose from the dead?
@@LightOfAllMankind The meaning of the words in John 6 is made clear by Jesus in the same passage: the food & drink He's speaking of is Spiritual.
To consider it as literal is to err just as those who deserted Jesus that day.
Your question has no bearing on the meaning of the passage.
“All I ever asked was you be merciful, back off sirs…work out your own salvation with God…careful your very judgment could be used against you……the lord will judge… not your denominations…..God knows our hearts and he doesn’t put a denomination in front of our name….some would want to stone this woman…..it’s easier to stone her than show mercy…..shame on us
I take that position, it’s the correct one.
The Gospel:
Plain and
Simple
“But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent
beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your
minds should be corrupted from the simplicity
that is in Christ.” - 2 Corithians 11:3
Ask someone today if they are saved and
you will most likely hear responses like these:
“I have accepted Jesus into my heart.” Or “I
have made him Lord of my life.” “I’ve been
baptized.” “I said a prayer.” Sounds all good
and churchy don’t it; but it is difficult to de-
termine whether or not a person actually
knows the gospel that saves them. These useless phrases don’t describe a thing about what
the gospel is and has left a devastating effect
of people not knowing what it is that they are
saved from nor how they are saved; which
leaves a more serious effect of people questioning their salvation.
Let’s not muddy the simplicity of salvation that is in Christ with vague church
sounding phrases that do not communicate
anything. But rather present God’s word with
clarity and assuredness. So here is the gospel:
plain and simple.
Sin was passed upon all men by one man
Adam, and death is a consequence of this sin
(Rom 5:12). Mankind has an eternal destiny of
condemnation and wrath - Hell - because of
this sin (Rom 6:23). No matter what good
works one might do we are still found sinners
in the sight of our Creator God. And all unrighteousness and those who follow get indignation and wrath. We cannot be found
righteous for by God’s law we are found sinners (Rom 3:19-20). If we have broken even
one law we are found guilty.
It is for this reason of not being able to
create our own righteousness and being born
in a sinful flesh that we need a savior (Titus
3:5). Christ is that Savior, God manifested in
the flesh, sinless, died in our place on a cross
2000 years ago. Taking upon him the wrath
and judgement that was intended for us sinners. And it is through his bloodshed, burial,
and resurrection on our behalf that we are
able to have peace with God and forgiveness
of our sins (1 Cor 15:1-4, Col 3:14). This good
news is unto all but only those that believe in
it are made righteous in Christ (Romans
3:22).
It is then after we have heard this good
news of Christ’s righteousness available to us freely, that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit
and we are now part of Christ’s body the
church (Eph 1:13)
There is nothing that we need to do, no
good works that are required, and no bad
works that can separate us from our new position in Christ (Romans 8:35-39).
Faith and belief in this information from
God’s word is the gospel.
The gospel is not accepting Jesus into your
heart. The gospel is not making him lord of
your life, it is not saying a prayer and it is not
being baptized with water.
So next time someone asks you if you are
saved. Give them the clear assured answer
“Yes! And let me tell you why!”
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Little disappointed u didn’t mention 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
First off, let ALL the saints pray for the sister in the beginning of the video. It's not enough to pontificate on theology (though I do that with the worst of them)>
Love never fails, people!
If you have resistant loved ones, don't give up. Keep talking, keep praying. Find common ground. Meet people at their doorway, not your own. For this is what the Lord does.
And don't forget the promises of the Word of God:
"Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, you AND your house." (Acts 16:31)
(under your roof, the blood of the Passover is sufficient.)
I'm a paedobaptist and I just gotta say Iove James White. Thanks for what you do.
Apparently 'He is risen' is more accurately rendered as 'He has been raised'. God was satisfied. Romans 4 v 25 states: "He was delivered over to death for our sins and was raised to life for our justification". Jesus was raised as the Father was satisfied with the atoning sacrifice (a one for all time sacrifice). So if the Father was satisfied with Jesus atoning sacrifice for my sins, to justify me, then I am satisfied too.
Excellent 👍
Call an LCMS pastor. We believe it's the body and blood, because Jesus says so. We recognize it as a means of grace through which there is a forgiveness of sins. There's nothing wrong with the woman's request.
Frank Turkey really discouraged me here.
God is exposing!!!
exposing what?
I never did have any appreciation for Turek's work, but here, he sounds like he's more interested in being a comedian than a caring, conscientious slave of Christ.
Why don't you appreciate his work?
@@ImmyT89 In a nutshell? He's an evidentialist and I'm a presuppositionalist.
@@carolberubee why can't you be both?
@@StallionFernando do you mean being both evidential and presupp? Or do you mean being a comedian and being a conscientious slave of Christ?
@@carolberubee pressup and evidential.
While I know official Catholic teaching, I know some Catholic laymen/women and priests who are functional Lutheran or Anglican, and that makes the local Catholic parish attractive but I must judge it on official teaching and not so and so believe the Gospel.
Augustine Sermon 227
Then, after the consecration of the sacrifice of God, because he wanted us to be ourselves his sacrifice, which is indicated by where that sacrifice was first put, that is the sign of the thing that we are; why, then after the consecration is accomplished, we say the Lord's prayer, which you have received and given back.
St. Augustine calls the mass a sacrifice and the Holy Eucharist a sacrament. So is he an idolater with a false gospel? Or is he right?
No Calvinist can answer this because they have a false gospel
Excellent
Lost respect for Frank Turek when he interviewed Mike Heiser, seems like he is to nice to people, he compromises when he does that, he does that in this video, does not point out faults in a false system, because he does not want to step on to many toes.
What’s wrong with Heiser?
Nothing more than whats wrong with all of us. We're human. Sounds like some folks want to remove the plank from Mr. Franks or Heiser's eye before removing the spec in their own...
@@themexican1802 Big problem with Heiser is with Genesis 6, he redefines marriage, Heiser thinks the sons of God are angelic spiritual beings that took the daughters of men as wives. The sons of God are in Genesis 5. Heiser like many are blind and insert Mythology into Genesis 6.
@@Sons_of_Thunder.Oh, interesting. Didn’t the Septuagint scribes translate sons of God as angels?
@@themexican1802 Long Response for you I see sons of God as Adopted.
The Septuagint a Greek version of the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament). Since the Greek is in play and in thought, what happened is a Interpretation error which leads to a Translation error, sons as angels is the error. The sons of God in Genesis 6 are Adopted Not Angels. In context Genesis 5 would be the sons of God in an Adopted Status not an Angelic status. This is how Mythology was inserted into Genesis 6 is because of Greek Mythology. Basically the scribes put Mythology thought into Genesis 6.
The Greeks believed that Zeus (god of the sky) one of their pagan gods came down to earth, disguised himself as Amphitryon (Alcmene's husband), and seduced and impregnated Alcmene a mortal human women and she gave birth to Hercules, sounds like Genesis 6. Angels taking wives and producing half human and half angel demi-gods.
Since there is a similarity with the Greek Myth of Zeus, Alcmene, and Hercules and the sons of God, daughters of men and Nephilim/Giants the Genesis 6:1-4 account. What happened is that to define the sons of God as angels because of the influence of Zeus. Zeus and angels are both heavenly beings so the thought of the sons of God became angels.
Alcmene and daughters of men in Genesis 6, has the similarity of mortal and of flesh and a difference of Alcmene is singular and daughters of men is plural.
Alcmene gave birth to Hercules and daughters of men gave birth to Nephilim/Giants
Both the angel view of Genesis 6 and Mythology have a god or an angels from heaven or the sky coming down to impregnate a mortal human woman/ women and begot a demigod/demigods.
Genesis 6: 1-4 "Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Most People just use these four verses, but they do not use the verse before or after. The whole context as to be applied.
Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
NOTICE.>>>>>> "And" The word "And" is a conjunction that links to the previous verses of Genesis 6:1-4, Then the verse goes on to say "God saw the wickedness of man"
The word "man" means human race or mankind......sooooo that is impossible for sons of God that are mentioned in the previous verses to be angels or spiritual beings, BECAUSE Verse 5 says "God saw the wickedness of man"
Genesis 6: 6-7 "And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”
Even verses 6 and 7 mentions man and destroying man, so God sent the flood to destroy man.
Genesis 6: 8-9 " 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. 9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
Again have to use the New Testament to explain the sons of God in the Old Testament.
Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God"
Noah's Faith
Hebrews 11: 6-7 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
7 By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
Only a "Adopted" son of God would be an heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
Genesis 6:9 " This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a JUST man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God."
The ONLY way Noah was a JUST man, perfect and walked with God is because of the Altar and the sacrifices Noah presented to God. Noah was a son of God because of his Faith . A person gets the word Justification from the word "JUST".
God imputes righteousness and Justifies a Faithful person like Noah. How Noah is Just because he presented offerings on the Altar to God. The Altar was a form of worship, prayer and atoned for sin.
To find Noah's offering on the Altar is found in Genesis 8 20 "Then Noah built an altar to the Lord, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar."
These offerings to the Lord God was handed down from father to son, the sacrifices displayed Faith towards the Lord God. Abel presented them, Seth presented them and so did Noah. These sacrifices atoned for the sins of the Household of the person presenting them. Noah is an "Adopted" son of God.
The names listed in Genesis 5 and the meaning of the names in Hebrew.
Adam (Genesis 5: 3-5) Lived: 930 Years. Adam means “Man”
Seth (Genesis 5: 3, 6-8) Lived: 912 Years. Seth means “put” or “appointed” or "Substitute"
Enosh (Genesis 5: 6, 9-11) Lived: 905 Years. Enosh mean a " mortal man"
Cainan (Genesis 5: 9, 12-14) Lived: 910 Years. Cainan means dwelling place
Mahalalel (Genesis 5: 12, 15-18) Lived 895 Years. Mahalalel means "praise God or God be praised"
Jared (Genesis 5: 15, 18-20) Lived 962 Years. Jared means "descend"
Enoch (Genesis 5: 18, 21-24) Lived 365 Years/Translated never saw death. Enoch means "to initiate or discipline:-dedicate, train up"
Methuselah (Genesis 5: 21, 25-27) Lived 969 Years. Methuselah means" [his] death will send away, cast out.
Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lived 777 Years. Lamech means " to be low, depressed or grow poor or impoverished"
Noah (Genesis 5: 28-29) Lived 950 Years. Noah’s name means "comfort or rest" Note: The "ONE" Family spared from the flood.
Shem (Genesis 10: 10-11) Lived 600 Years. Shem's name means "renown, fame, famous"
When putting the meaning of these names in a Phrase this is how it reads.
Man [is] appointed a mortal man [in his] dwelling place. Praise God, [He] descended to discipline and train-up.
[His] death will send away, cast out, the depressed, the despairing. The One [Jesus] will comfort us and give us rest renown name.
All these Elders are considered Patriarchs. A Patriarch (noun)/ Patriarchs (plural noun) is defined as the male head of a family, tribe or tribes. From Adam to Jacob and even Job would be a Patriarch. Patriarchs are the sons of God, because of their Faith, Adoration, and Worship towards the True God while presenting a sacrifice or an offering to the Lord God.
”We will take a simple little verse and show you why it is not addressed to the natural man, Ecclesiastes 3:15: “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been; and God seeks what has been driven away.” The “natural man” cannot grasp that, for to him reality is based only on the evidence of the senses. The man of reason could justify the verse’s end, saying if it has any meaning then the writer must mean recurrence. The sun comes every day and the moon completes its cycle and the seasons come and go. If we took a picture of the universe today, the scientists can compute how long it will take to return to this point in the picture. So the intellectual man could justify the verse; but that is not what is meant, for it is addressed not to the man of reason or the man of sense, but to the man of Imagination. What is it all about? “That which is, already has been; that which is to be, already has been, and God seeks what has been driven away.”
Neville Goddard Lecture - A Parabolic Revelation . . 06-6-1969
It is in you as a person that the nature of God is revealed, for a scriptural episode is not a record of an historical event, but a parabolic revelation of truth. To see Jesus or David as an historical character is to see truth tempered to the weakness of your soul. You must see what the characters represent, rather than the characters themselves. This is true for every story in scripture, for every episode will unfold within you.
1Co 12:3-5
Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking in the Spirit of God ever says “Jesus is accursed!” and no one can say “Jesus is Lord” except in the Holy Spirit.
Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit; and there are varieties of service, but the same Lord;
I think if determinists can call Jesus Lord but deny free will, Catholics can get a bunch of stuff wrong too.
(I know I am about to get the flame thrower)
please read ephesians 1 and romans 9 and understand them. How can it be that people are predestined in your view?
Hey can you do a video responding flowers on his new video ?😁
Calvin and be Reformers would cringe at this guy’s response, along with labeling him as a heretic.
Any thoughts on how Jesus Christ would react, or do you only care about the opinions of Calvin and the Reformers?
@@myinternetname5911 well Steve if you had actually watched this video you would know that Rev White spoke frequently about the Reformers in it. But since you asked, I’ll let you do the homework on what Jesus would say from these verses. And with support from various Apostles as well. John 3:3-8; John 3:16; John 14:6; Peter in Acts 4:12; Paul in Acts 17:30-31; Paul in Romans 6:23; 5:8: 10:9-10, 13. I don’t see anything about a Roman sacrament when it comes to salvation in Christ and Him alone. Some of us do know what we’re talking about. Do you?
@@ronr1094 Yes, I do. For example, I know that the acronym TULIP isn’t included in the scriptures. In addition, I know Calvinists resort to ad hominem attacks when someone disagrees with them. Oh, also I know Jesus said to remove the plank from your own eye before removing the splinter from your brother’s eye.
@@myinternetname5911 TULIP was a later invention as Calvin as far as I know had nothing to do with that. It’s said that he would never have called himself a Calvinist. Nevertheless, the Doctrines of Grace are true. And best match Scripture and the the Christian life according to Scripture. Something to be said about that Scripture alone one! You asked a question above. I didn’t see it as ad hominem as much as you think. But I was addressing the content of the video itself. Superstition and false claims are running rampant in evangelicalism these days and Turek was a great illustration of this.
@@myinternetname5911 TULIP is an acronym for a summary of many doctrines from scripture, all people are totally depraved and totally dead to sin until they are regenerated by the holy spirit, unconditional election comes from Ephesians 1 where Paul calls christians predestined and elect, peter calls christians elect by God, etc. Limited Atonement is all based on Gods sovereign election, God justified those he predestined and those he predestined he also glorified, God chose who Jesus would die for before the creation of the world. Irresistible grace is also undeniable from scripture, those he predestined he glorified. and preservation of the saints is the P, God, in his sovereignty has elected people since before the creation of the world, the son justified those elect, and the spirit preserves those through sanctification. Tulip is entirely biblical, all you have to do is open your bible.
Frank is playing footsie with Romanism. 😭
I stopped following Frank Turek when I found out he is good friends with Rick Warren.
The things he said on that video to that woman are highly disturbing! Very sad 😔
Yes I too used to follow him and I saw him in saddleback church and I doubted him and my doubt become true that he was not Biblical.
@NicoCoco Do you not believe in free will?
He also agrees and is friends with Hugh Ross which puts me off from his ministry.
Much love and respect to that Catholic mother sticking to her beliefs - it's clear that the daughter is entirely misinformed on what Catholics believe.
It is admirable, though unfortunately spiritually blind
I do think many Catholics are Christians even though they believe in some unbiblical rituals. The question is are they trusting in Christ or their own works to save them, I would ask that. I think that would’ve been a better question than what Frank asked. If she thinks she must confess to a priest in order to go heaven that’s a big red flag.
Frank is like Ravi. There is something wrong - to see frank say that! Well there it is. If that doesn’t blow the lid wipe open I don’t know what will
Wait isn't the gospel really that simple? I thought it was just that God came as a man named Jesus he lived a perfect life died on the cross for our sins he rose again on the third Day. If you believe that your saved and given eternal life correct?
Yes sir 🫡
The problem is that Rome’s additions to the gospel make theirs a false gospel that doesn’t save. The apostle Paul tells us to let them be accursed if they preach a different gospel.
its like im hearing all these different religious leaders talkinjg about how bad the world is right now wiuth covid and to do your best in it. i dont hear anyone explaining the gospel, the sovereignty of god or his wrath thats being poured out on this earth and will be poured out fully in eternity. like please tell people the gospel because even if the world goes back to normal they are still at enmity to god and under his wrath thats being poured in good, bad and every other time as he deems fit topour it out.
He’s giving her false hope. Sad. As long as the Gospel matters, they’re wrong.
Andy Stanley, seeker sensitive churches.
No such thing as used To be a Christian. You're either saved or your not. God won't lose His own.
Right, those who went out from among us were never of us
I would like to see what white makes as his criteria for Christianity
My 88 yo neighbor felt great after getting the last rights from his priest. That’s what he told me. He apparently felt great about his eternal destiny.
Faith in Christ alone saves brother
It’s so sad how he could laugh off so many weight issues. Makes me quite uncomfortable.
Can’t forget about repentance. With true belief comes repentance.
“If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
1 John 1:8-10 ESV
“Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.”
1 John 2:4-6 ESV
So do we need to have perfect theology and a FULL understanding of Christ's sacrifice in every way to be saved? Her blindness to the fact that she should have peace already, should not be a reason for her not to be saved. The gospel is rather simple isn't it? We are judged according to what we know from God's perspective. The moms confusion and devotion to her Catholic man made teachings do not affect God's reality on how we are saved; in this context.
We all have blind spots don't we? For whatever reasons. We all do. JW shed some light and had some solid thinking points, but certain semantics to a point are just that, semantics.
This should be discussed rather. TY
Believing short of regeneration.
I’ve noticed some thing interesting that the Calvinist will preach a holiness that I’m sure they do not practice and the fundamentalist will be honest and say no holiness is required for salvation and yet I’m sure they do more works in our more wholly than a Calvinist. If it is true that a Christian will be allowed into heaven with active sins on his soul then the standard for salvation is not the lack of sins on the soul at the presence of something else the gift. The irrevocable gift. If the thoughts and intentions of man’s heart are only evil continually then salvation won’t exactly change that but will change the penalty of that. And here is where the Calvinist gets into a gray area they will say you are being conformed to the image of Christ overtime. The problem is that ends up looking different from person to person so that can’t be the standard. If God will condemn the wicked for both great and small sins Alike and is justified forgiven at the moment of belief, Then the putting off of sins will never be what saves someone
Your first sentence is riddled with assumptions that you have no evidence for.
As a former RC who got saved and spent 25 years in the Arminiast camp, and Is now a committed Calvinist, I can assure you do not understand reformed theology. Actually you don't understand the work of the Holy Spirit in the life of a believer according to some of your comments.
@@amichiganblackman3200 You’re correct. I may indeed have smuggled in an assumption, But I know the “reformed crowd” or the “new calvinists” so called. Super cool, super trendy, they’re the cool smart table. I’ve listened to them very closely for years. And I cannot hop on the repentance standard preach. It’s too inconsistent. Most everything else when it comes to election, predestination, total sovereignty I can follow the logic I can see the plain meaning of the biblical letters. But the reformed crowd seems conflicted with total deprav the inability the submit to God to be saved and yet the requirement to stop sins in order to be saved. How can I tell you you must stop X and I’m still doing Y and he’s still doing Z?
@@mariosangermano5709 I understand. The Holy Spirit conforms you to the image of Christ. “I will cleanse you, you will be clean”. Old covenant promises, the elect, a people for my own possession…I couldn’t possibly read any more in depth on this. My head will explode if I get through another edwards or pink section 🤣. Nevertheless, that one single ifb objection is so simple…. No one would dare suggest they have repented of all their sins, we all know all men are equal before the cross. The gift is bestowed freely and the gift is the standard. And at the consummation there will be sins that each and every person will enter having been active. Whether it be lying, cowardice, gluttony, unforgivness, the list goes on. How can those sins be forgiven?
People are different, with different strengths and weaknesses. Of course people arent all going to look the same when conforming to christ because everyone is made differently by God. If you were to put an aspect of holiness like faith on a scale from 1-10, 10 being really good, everyone would naturally fall all over that spectrum, some having more natural faith than others. Introduce the Holy Spirit and now you have people moving on that scale towards a 10. But one person may have started at a 6 while another person at 3. So not everyone is going to look the same while being sanctified because everyone started at different places.
Never seen frank this way off before I believe he would go back on this if he remembers what paul said about circumcision. You can’t serve to masters either which this woman’s mother is doing.
I have noticed he seems to be pretty uninterested in criticism of catholicism issues. It def seems to be his weak spot where he tries to shoehorn in the problems of catholacism as if theya re ok, when you can tell by how poorly he does it I don't think deep down he even believes they are ok.
The Septuagint a Greek version of the Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament). Since the Greek is in play and in thought, what happened is a Interpretation error which leads to a Translation error, sons as angels is the error. The sons of God in Genesis 6 are Adopted Not Angels. In context Genesis 5 would be the sons of God in an Adopted Status not an Angelic status. This is how Mythology was inserted into Genesis 6 is because of Greek Mythology. Basically the scribes put Mythology thought into Genesis 6.
The Greeks believed that Zeus (god of the sky) one of their pagan gods came down to earth, disguised himself as Amphitryon (Alcmene's husband), and seduced and impregnated Alcmene a mortal human women and she gave birth to Hercules, sounds like Genesis 6. Angels taking wives and producing half human and half angel demi-gods.
Since there is a similarity with the Greek Myth of Zeus, Alcmene, and Hercules and the sons of God, daughters of men and Nephilim/Giants the Genesis 6:1-4 account. What happened is that to define the sons of God as angels because of the influence of Zeus. Zeus and angels are both heavenly beings so the thought of the sons of God became angels.
Alcmene and daughters of men in Genesis 6, has the similarity of mortal and of flesh and a difference of Alcmene is singular and daughters of men is plural.
Alcmene gave birth to Hercules and daughters of men gave birth to Nephilim/Giants
Both the angel view of Genesis 6 and Mythology have a god or an angels from heaven or the sky coming down to impregnate a mortal human woman/ women and begot a demigod/demigods.
Genesis 6: 1-4 "Now it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, 2 that the sons of God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves of all whom they chose.
3 And the Lord said, “My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.” 4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men and they bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.
Most People just use these four verses, but they do not use the verse before or after. The whole context as to be applied.
Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
NOTICE.>>>>>> "And" The word "And" is a conjunction that links to the previous verses of Genesis 6:1-4, Then the verse goes on to say "God saw the wickedness of man"
The word "man" means human race or mankind......sooooo that is impossible for sons of God that are mentioned in the previous verses to be angels or spiritual beings, BECAUSE Verse 5 says "God saw the wickedness of man"
Genesis 6: 6-7 "And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. 7 So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”
Even verses 6 and 7 mentions man and destroying man, so God sent the flood to destroy man.
Genesis 6: 8-9 " 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. 9 This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God. 10 And Noah begot three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
Genesis 6:8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.
Again have to use the New Testament to explain the sons of God in the Old Testament.
Ephesians 2:8 "For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God"
Noah's Faith
Hebrews 11: 6-7 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
7 By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
Only a "Adopted" son of God would be an heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.
Genesis 6:9 " This is the genealogy of Noah. Noah was a JUST man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked with God."
The ONLY way Noah was a JUST man, perfect and walked with God is because of the Altar and the sacrifices Noah presented to God. Noah was a son of God because of his Faith . A person gets the word Justification from the word "JUST".
God imputes righteousness and Justifies a Faithful person like Noah. How Noah is Just because he presented offerings on the Altar to God. The Altar was a form of worship, prayer and atoned for sin.
To find Noah's offering on the Altar is found in Genesis 8 20 "Then Noah built an altar to the Lord, and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird, and offered burnt offerings on the altar."
These offerings to the Lord God was handed down from father to son, the sacrifices displayed Faith towards the Lord God. Abel presented them, Seth presented them and so did Noah. These sacrifices atoned for the sins of the Household of the person presenting them. Noah is an "Adopted" son of God.
The names listed in Genesis 5 and the meaning of the names in Hebrew.
Adam (Genesis 5: 3-5) Lived: 930 Years. Adam means “Man”
Seth (Genesis 5: 3, 6-8) Lived: 912 Years. Seth means “put” or “appointed” or "Substitute"
Enosh (Genesis 5: 6, 9-11) Lived: 905 Years. Enosh mean a " mortal man"
Cainan (Genesis 5: 9, 12-14) Lived: 910 Years. Cainan means dwelling place
Mahalalel (Genesis 5: 12, 15-18) Lived 895 Years. Mahalalel means "praise God or God be praised"
Jared (Genesis 5: 15, 18-20) Lived 962 Years. Jared means "descend"
Enoch (Genesis 5: 18, 21-24) Lived 365 Years/Translated never saw death. Enoch means "to initiate or discipline:-dedicate, train up"
Methuselah (Genesis 5: 21, 25-27) Lived 969 Years. Methuselah means" [his] death will send away, cast out.
Lamech (Genesis 5: 25, 28-31) Lived 777 Years. Lamech means " to be low, depressed or grow poor or impoverished"
Noah (Genesis 5: 28-29) Lived 950 Years. Noah’s name means "comfort or rest" Note: The "ONE" Family spared from the flood.
Shem (Genesis 10: 10-11) Lived 600 Years. Shem's name means "renown, fame, famous"
When putting the meaning of these names in a Phrase this is how it reads.
Man [is] appointed a mortal man [in his] dwelling place. Praise God, [He] descended to discipline and train-up.
[His] death will send away, cast out, the depressed, the despairing. The One [Jesus] will comfort us and give us rest renown name.
All these Elders are considered Patriarchs. A Patriarch (noun)/ Patriarchs (plural noun) is defined as the male head of a family, tribe or tribes. From Adam to Jacob and even Job would be a Patriarch. Patriarchs are the sons of God, because of their Faith, Adoration, and Worship towards the True God while presenting a sacrifice or an offering to the Lord God.
“It is (kinda) finished.”
-another Christ
Romans 10 tells us that the Jews missed out on salvation because they tried to establish their own righteousness instead of trusting in the righteousness of Christ. Catholics are doing the same thing.
So wrong, so wrong. 2 Peter 3:16 tells us that Paul's writing are difficult and misunderstood. Why? Because a lot of people lack context of Paul's writings. Many don't care to know, they fall into the trap of lamestream christianity. Which teaches they replaced Israel as His possession.
@@qw2ps4 Tell me how my statement is wrong. Simply saying it's wrong does nothing in the way of providing a counter argument.
@@philblagden It all started back in Daniel's time. He gave us a prophecy that was fulfilled in 325A.D. A prophecy that changed Christianity into not christianity. There are some parts that are right, but so very much that isn't. Parts that help the pastors of today teach Paul all wrong.
Interestingly: here's a question most Christians struggle to answer.
Jesus did it.
The apostles did it.
Even after He ascended they still did it.
Christians, do they do it?
No way!
They say: If you do your not truly saved!
If you are seeking the truth no matter what then read on and consider that it's one of the prophecies that has been fulfilled.
Lets consider what Daniel 7: 25 says:
"He will intend to change religious festivals & laws."
Which festivals was Daniel referring too? He never heard of Xmas, valentine's day or Thanksgiving.
He knew about feast of booths, feast of weeks & passover.
Perhaps those festivals were changed just like he prophecied.
Well, the council of nicea happened in 325A.D, is that when they changed?
Yep!
After the changes is when we have the early Christians tortured and ripped apart by lions.........
Why would "believers" of the 21st century follow the things that upset Daniel so much?
2 Cor 6:14-17 ...For what partnership is there between righteousness & lawlessness ..... therefore come out from among them, to be separate, don't touch anything unclean...
When you change Gods laws, that's called lawlessness.
So you see God is bringing judgement. Judgement is good, bringing correction, which brings us closer to God. So when your church gets shut down or restricted don't blame God, praise Him, and blame the forefathers who changed "the way".
Then ask God to help change you back to His Holy days and His Holy ways before the council of nicea happened.
@@qw2ps4 So let me get this straight? People are going to hell for celebrating Christmas and Thanksgiving? And this is what Daniel was referring to when he talks about the ruler that seeks to change times and laws?
I wasn't talking about this but talking about salvation by grace alone through faith alone versus salvation by human effort and works.
Are you saying that salvation must be based on strict observance of the law?
Are you a Seventh Day Adventist?
I'm confused.
@@philblagden No I'm not SDA
No to strict adherence to the law for salvation. The pharisees taught that, Jesus corrected them and they didn't like it.
I'm pointing out that Gods ways were changed and that should set off alarm bells. The Council of Nicea consisted of the earliest Catholics which met where they made those changes. The protestants tried to break away but in the end they went with that doctrine.
As believers we will be held accountable for our actions.
The fact is that Israel tried many times to worship God their own way, failing every time. Then they would return to the ways of God and then they were blessed.
Now on the subject will they go to hell for celebrating mans holy days, well that should be a no brainer.
But .....
Wait I'm circumcised was not my decision. I am cut off from Christ? I believe that I'm saved but your telling me I'm cut off from Christ because I'm circumcised?
That’s what the Judaizers said in the early days of the church. One of the “works” these Judaizers (who were not saved because they trusted their works along with Christ) claimed was necessary for salvation was circumcision. Basically the Judaizers believed that in order to be saved, you had to believe in Christ but also do a bunch of other stuff, so that salvation was not in Christ alone. This is clearly false. Circumcision in and of itself does not cut you off from Christ, but believing that you must be circumcised to be saved is a problem
In short, no he’s not saying that. Apostle Paul was circumcised also
I like Frank, but have to admit he doesn’t look good here. Perhaps Frank is having a hard time accepting that his own Catholic mother may not know the true Gospel or be truly saved, so he convinces himself that the rituals don’t matter, etc. Just a thought.
Well anybody can nipick any little thing you said years ago and use it against you. Which is what this video is. But yes Turek does seem too have a soft spot for Catholicism.
At 7:40 Frank Turek says there is no reason to argue about the idea that Catholics are eating the flesh of the Christ and drinking the blood of the Christ in the Eucharist.
The apostles in Jerusalem wrote a letter to Gentile Christians telling them to *abstain from blood.*
*"You are to abstain* from food sacrificed to idols, *from blood,* from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things."
(Acts 15 : 29)
The Jewish Christians were already abstaining from blood because the Law commanded them to never eat blood (Deuteronomy 12 : 23 - 25 and Leviticus 17 : 10 - 14)
Peter was among those apostles who told the Church to abstain from blood, yet the Catholic church tells Catholics they are drinking the actual blood of the Christ when they have the Eucharist. The Catholic church is so wrong.
Does Frank Turek not know that drinking/eating blood is in direct disobedience to what God commanded the Church through the apostles?
“Let’s do some baal stuff, huh!?” Lol
I think I’d like to see a debate between Scott Hahn and James White.
Jesus Christ commanded:
(1) Love GOD and (2) Love other people.
The only way a human being can show that It loves GOD is by loving other people.
Jesus Christ made this clear with the parable of of the Samaritan and other stories.
Basically, do your best to be reasonably good to other human beings, and GOD will judge the rest.
Jesus Christ made religion VERY EASY.
Don't believe the modern day pharisees who want to imprison people with mindless rituals and unnecessary beliefs.
Dr Turek is under the judgement of God if he truly believes that.
You Protestants crack me up. You say that we’re saved by faith alone (A term that only appears once when it is condemned in James 2:24) and say that a person is misunderstanding the gospel when they think their works matter at all and anything else matters but their faith. But then you see people that have faith like devout Catholics and Orthodox and you say actually never mind you’re not saved by faith alone. You’re saved by faith in faith alone alone. So suddenly unconditional election becomes quite conditional. But then you, Ryan take it a step further. You say that Frank Turek isn’t saved because he doesnt believe in your doctrine of salvation by faith in faith alone alone. So now your new doctrine of salvation is salvation by faith in faith in faith alone alone alone. How far does this go. If somebody says Turek is saved are they now danmed by the doctrine of salvation by faith in faith in faith in faith alone alone alone alone.
so you are still deceived by a translation from Jehovah Witness @@bman5257 ? it have been DEBUNKED many times by protestants,
if you really use your head to think and search something in original manuscript,
the term in james 2:24 is "Not Only By Faith",and not "Faith Alone",The term is not there,
the word "justified" is also different,there are numerous way to use the word "justified" in the bible,
your works-based Salvation will not save you at all,and here is why you are going to hell together with Frank Turek
Romans 11:6 But if it is (Salvation) by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works; OTHERWISE grace would no longer be grace.
this verses tells us this:since a person is saved by grace,and if you Personally think you are saved by works,then this is not Grace,and since you think you are not saved by grace,then you are denying the fact that we are saved by grace,so you are denying Grace
another verses is this,this is the proof that our WORKS is God's WORKS in a true believer:
Philippians 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always OBEYED, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, WORK out YOUR OWN salvation with fear and trembling,
FOR it is GOD who works IN YOU, both to will and to work for HIS good pleasure.
Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
NOT a result of WORKS, so that no one may boast.
we are Justified by Faith Alone,Christ Alone,Grace Alone,james chapter 2 is talking about justification BEFORE MEN,Thomas Aquinas believe this,Thomas aquinas,a super famous catholic scholar,claim that book of romans is the proof that we are not Justified by works of the law,"works of the law" is synonym of Works/Good works
Matthew 7:12 "So WHATEVER you wish that others would do to you, DO also to them, for this is the LAW and the Prophets.
we are justified by Faith apart From Works of the Law/Works/Good Works/whatever
Titus 3:5 he saved us, NOT because of WORKS done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,
may God drag you... john 6
@@bman5257 nice of you to assume that the guy you're replying to is protestant.
@@bman5257 the point is what is a persons, Roman Catholic or otherwise, truly in? If it is anything other than Christ’s redemption by dying for our sins once and rising from the dead to conquer death, it is a false Gospel.
Belief in any ritual whether it be snake handling, eating a certain wafer only blessed by a certain person, reading the Bible, does not SAVE us from Hell.
If I have to check any other box to know I’m going to Heaven, besides having true faith that Jesus paid my debt, that is self reliance and a works based gospel.
Yes, our works play a part in our judgment on the Bema seat, but that plays no roll in our heavenly or hell eternal resting place.
@@ManlyServant Oh goodness my friend you have so much so wrong.
First off the translation of James 2:24 as “justified by works, and not by faith alone” is not a Jehovah Witness idiosyncrasy. It is a mainstream translation used by Protestants “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” (James 2:24, ESV).
I agree that my initial justification is not on the basis of my works, that my works or faith do not merit justification but that it is by grace. So I agree with you on Romans 11:6 and Ephesians 2. The Catholic position is not that a person is “saved by works” as you keep alleging, it is that they are justified by grace and then once justified a person has to obey commandments.
“If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.” (Matthew 19:17)
You quote from Romans 11 later in that chapter he warns Christians in the Roman Church that they can lose their salvation.
“Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.” (Romans 11:22)
When Paul talks about justified by faith and not works of the law. He is obviously talking about the Law/Instruction/Torah of the mosaic covenant and he was fighting against the Judaizer heresy, which said you must follow the mosaic law to be justified.
If you’re a reformed Christian you also believe that once a person has faith they can’t lose their salvation.
“THEY BELIEVE for a while, but in the time of testing they fall away.” Luke 8:13.
“For if we sin willfully after having received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth NO MORE sacrifice for sins,” Hebrews 10:26
I think this guy is a Christian lawyer, pretty legalistic
@The if I took a stab at it I'd say someone who elevates what someone thinks about christ above their faith in him. You don't need all correct beliefs for thev magic of salvation to happen, otherwise we'd all be screwed. I suppose to put it in a fancy way legalism is when teleology exalts over ontology.
@The God bless you brother 🙏
We have a “false gospel”???
John 20:23
Whoever's sins you forgive, they are forgiven them. Whoever's sins you retain, they have been retained.
That was for the apostles, not for us now
@@jeremiahtassinari1743
What reason do you have that it only applies to the Apostles?
There is a long history of the exact opposite:
The Didache 70AD was a compilation of the teachings of the Apostles and it said
“Confess your sins in church, and do not go up to your prayer with an evil conscience. This is the way of life. . . . On the Lord’s Day gather together, break bread, and give thanks, after confessing your transgressions so that your sacrifice may be pure” (Didache 4:14, 14:1 [A.D. 70]).
St. Ignatius of Antioch, the direct disciple of St. John says
“For as many as are of God and of Jesus Christ are also with the bishop. And as many as shall, in the exercise of penance, return into the unity of the Church, these, too, shall belong to God, that they may live according to Jesus Christ” (Letter to the Philadelphians 3 [A.D. 110]).
St. Ambrose teaches
“For those to whom [the right of binding and loosing] has been given, it is plain that either both are allowed, or it is clear that neither is allowed. Both are allowed to the Church, neither is allowed to heresy. For this right has been granted to priests only” (Penance 1:1 [A.D. 388]).
St. Augustine teaches
“When you shall have been baptized, keep to a good life in the commandments of God so that you may preserve your baptism to the very end. I do not tell you that you will live here without sin, but they are venial sins which this life is never without. Baptism was instituted for all sins. For light sins, without which we cannot live, prayer was instituted. . . . But do not commit those sins on account of which you would have to be separated from the body of Christ. Perish the thought! For those whom you see doing penance have committed crimes, either adultery or some other enormities. That is why they are doing penance. If their sins were light, daily prayer would suffice to blot them out. . . . In the Church, therefore, there are three ways in which sins are forgiven: in baptisms, in prayer, and in the greater humility of penance” (Sermon to Catechumens on the Creed 7:15, 8:16 [A.D. 395]).
The Catholic Church is the fullness of truth.
@@dwong9289 none of those quotes are form scripture. The apostle Paul never commands such for the church. We should confess our sins to each other but God is the one who forgives. God, as the forgiver, through Jesus Christ, is painted as the one who forgives sins
The apostles has special authority that is not for us today.
1 John 1:9, Acts 2, Acts 13, 1 Cor 15, Hebrews 8:12, Hebrews 10:17, Colossians 3:13
@@jeremiahtassinari1743
The very disciples of the Apostles taught otherwise. The people one degree of separation from St John taught about the sacrament of confession. Even the Scriptures in John 20:23 teach confession. Your falsely interpret that the Apostle's unique role somehow invalidates the sacrament of confession. Why would only the Apostles need to forgive sins? 1 Cor 6:9 teaches us that believers who commit mortal sins such as idolatry, fornication, homosexuality, etc. will not enter into the kingdom of heaven. So, the sacrament of confession would be applicable throughout all time. The idea that confession only occurred with the Apostles is an ad hoc reason that was developed to support the heresy of the reformation. Every Catholic, Orthodox, and even Lutherans realizes that the Apostle's have unique authority yet they also teach about Confession. Confession is an authority passed down through apostolic succession through the laying on of hands at ordination, so the power derives from Christ to the Apostles and their disciples.
There is a lot to discuss, but I will just link articles that explain it better than I can:
www.catholic.com/qa/did-the-apostles-ordain-priests
www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/how-to-defend-the-sacrament-of-confession
www.catholic.com/tract/confession
@@dwong9289 again sir,if it's not rooted in scripture, I will not believe it. Just like the Bereans searched the scriptures to see what they were told is true, so should we.
Frank was not casting pearls to pigs.
"1343 thats why they hate doctrine because it has to divide just like it has been meant to thats why the holy spirit wrote through paul the epistles to get things right that were out of kilt. so if its good enough for the holy spirit who is the teacher of truth then its gotta be good for those who are born again by him. he leads into all truth. if you dont like the truth then god send a strong delusion upon you. 2thess2:9-11.
Yall, I had the 666th like on the video. Is Nero gonna come back and get me? Lol
I assume that lady, her mom, her husband and the gu y answering questions are all unconverted
The sad part is Frank Turek is pretty well known. He speaks at some pretty high profile things.
Frank Turek, the person answering, is Christian and work hard at evangelizing and defending the faith. He is a true son and ambassador of God.
@@DoctorAkke
In this particular case he failed short.
How circumcision came into this, as if it mattered, is a pathetic attack by White. Turek in no way suggested circumcision.
Yeah I just think people are always looking for someone else to disprove or condone another person so that they can feel better about who they watch. Doesn't mean both are wrong or right.
"Turek in no way suggested circumcision." This genuinely makes it sound like this is the first time you've ever heard a person examine and challenge a position with questions and examples.
I hope i can talk to you sometime
bruh,remember,this channel is not owned by james!
I got to talk to Dr White when he was in Pryor, Oklahoma. I put the sermons and Q&As up on my channel. He's a great guy. Very gracious.
✝️
That guy in the video is amazingly ignorant. We're dealing with the issue of ETERNAL destination here and while giving a wrong answer that has to do with ETERNAL DESTINY.. cheeseburger and gummy bears? to lighten the atmosphere (because that's so important right?) That guy will be held accountable before God for this soul with blood on his hands. (and others you have influenced with false info and having put up the video for thousands of others to watch and learn from)
Brother it's pathetic and this is a lesson for us to study the word fervently and teach only the word. The brother talking is a fine scholar, solid and has tremendously been a blessing to the body of Christ but He gets it very wrong here. He might have good intentions but what the listeners are hearing is very different
So he made an mistake years ago, yes the videos is years old and you guys condemn him instead of praying for him? What then does that speak about you and your hearts? "For with whatever judgement you judge, you will be judged"
There is a huge difference between pointing error and condemning someone. Personally, and to date, I still use resources from Turek. He has done a great job in apologetics but nevertheless he gave an erroneous answer here. My comment personally charge us to be students of the word so that we won't trust persons instead of truth. Love you bro.
Her mom was looking for a genuine holy representative of God to feel with her and perform her rites of passage.
respectfully, how holy can a catholic priest be? Paul said that there are none good, none seek after God, no righteous people. “rites of passage” are exactly the thing James White is talking about, if you must have rites of passage performed, then you are not trusting in the finished work of Christ. Please repent and trust Christ, you can not add anything to the work of Christ and if you think you can, you will taint your salvation and will be thrown away.
I can't believe how far off Turek is on this.
lmao 12:07 is hilarious
This guy is quick to harshly without love correct a brother in Christ for perceived error but will bend over backwards to be loved by blasphemous Muslim and jihadis and side with them agains other brothers in Christ.
There will be Roman Catholics in heaven.
Just as there will be Orthodox and Protestant believers in heaven.
No question about it, but it doesn't prevent us from presenting the true Gospel to those who are believing a lie - for as long as the book of Galatians remains in the Canon of Scripture, we have to.
@@magicberu well, I hear you.
But we need to look at the entirety of scripture.
I like Dr. White, but he's got his share of errors and problems just like any other Christian leader.
Only those born again! no one else following a false gospel will be in heaven.
We are saved by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone!
And unless you are trusting in the finished work of Christ, you aren't saved!
And the gospel call is repent and believe!
@@randycadkins settle down young man.😄
Shh don't say that too loud. Some groups think they'll be the only ones there!
Frank is dangerous.
You’re really being far too ingenuous towards Frank Turek here James… not only does Turek’s response betray a poor grasp of Romanism, but it betrays a hopeless grasp of the gospel of Jesus Christ, which is where your critique really ought to have been focussed
But what you failed to attend to, is this - how would YOU have answered this lady?
Disastrous take by Turek. Wow.
Your wrong about judaites, they didn't believe Yeshua was the son of God hence why Paul called them false
The only thing galatians says they did was add circumcision as a necessary work.
@@danielomitted1867 they weren't adding it on, already existed as part of their faith and were trying to impose it on the gentiles, however Paul when even addressing that particular matter wasn't even arguing the merits of that tradition/law, because he knew it is in the law of moses. He simply saying those traditions only would make it harder for gentiles to convert. However none of this was my original point, the main point of contention with the Jews with Paul and the apostles, was the fact that the Jews didn't even believe Yeshua was the son of God to begin with hense why there was no reason to even argue the purpose or merits of the law.
@@donaldthomas9217 you have no clue what youre talking about. They were trying to add it to the Christian faith. Paul didnt accuse them of misunderstanding who Jesus was he accused them of destroying the nature of grace. Youre adding that in despite galatians never once stating that.
@@danielomitted1867 well for one not only for I have clue of what I'm talking about but furthermore I have no respect for anyone, especially a so called Christian who has to try and attack someone's intelligence instead of the idea itself. I don't agree with all lot of people but I never call them stupid or a fool because I disagree, but because you did only proves that you're the one with no clue.
@@donaldthomas9217 I did. Im simply pointing out what youre accusing these people of isnt what Paul accused them of and isnt found absolutely anywhere within the text of Galatians.
Frank Turek, big oof!
This is what happens when man's will and a magic phrase... puts God on the hook. This is all about man's power.... awful theology from Frank here.
Why are the Calvinist always the most judgmental out of all the protestants? It's so easy too nipick some mistake someone made years ago and everyone in the comments acting like they're so much better than Turek... so much for loving Christians....
'Nitpick'. We're talking about a woman's eternal destination here.
One self-proclaimed teacher of the Gospel rebukes another self-proclaimed teacher of the Gospel. Meaning is null and void. People: WAKE UP!