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It's unbelievable that in the 21st century there are crackpots as deeply deluded as this guy. He's one step from stoning women to death for displeasing a man. But give him a mic and off he goes...
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits" this guy smells of rotten apples.
There are SO MANY problems (biblical interpretation, research, and cultural examples) here that vastly overwhelm the moments of good insight. When he describes bears as both fierce and unable to nurture children - as if all bears are male! As if mother bears aren’t fierce! As if female bears cannot both fight and nurture - it is clear that he is not only beyond the pale, but that he is completely self-unaware.
I stopped listening after you stated false statistics on physical violence in marriages. Also, I hope your followers know there are other forms of abuse in marriage. Ones that are more damaging and detrimental to every member in the family, with lasting impacts. "Controlling abuse is usually called intimate terrorism, and over 90% of the perpetrators are male. In a typical case a husband might prevent a wife from seeing friends or family and make her feel guilty or afraid if she defies him. He may threaten harm against children if she tries to leave, or badger her incessantly to get what he wants." -AAMFT
If a women is marrying a man that cannot control his emotions or lacks stoicism that is the womens fault. It is imperative that Men in your life vet your boyfriends as love clouds judgment. Women should not marry abusive men. And men should not marry abusive women
If there is any partial value to Webbon’s over-correction, it is that he has properly re-owned for himself the pre-modern label of “patriarchy” (which sees women as second class and subservient to their honorable men); rather than ruin the better term and category of complementarianism which arose specifically to overcome the problematic abuse and chauvinism within patriarchy. At least he sees the difference. Sadly, he is throwing away all the advantages as he moves backwards.
Thank you for sharing this, I have been hoping for a Christian voice for issues concerning the Manosphere. I grew up when women taking spiritual leadership roles in the house and the men having all the responsibility without authority. All responsibility with no authority is slavery and this is the sad state of men today. I do see women speaking out but it’s a minority
Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8 is talking to the thieving Church leaders. It is the answer to end covid and almost all ministers now know when they return the money they were never supposed to take for ministering then God will throw open the floodgates of heaven and end covid. But the thieving church leaders love money so much they would rather continue taking the money knowing every time they do they kill more people with covid. Talk about evil. Anyone that deletes or rejects the messages sent from the messenger of Malachi 3:1 rejects Jesus and will automatically die with the wicked. . . .
Very well said. God bless you richly! I've said for a long time now that the most dangerous position to be in, is to have responsibility without authority, and the most dangerous person to be is one with authority but no responsibility.
I have yet to talk with a man with these beliefs that fully respects women. They don’t they just don’t. Instead they look down at women as inferior. Im how can a woman be expected to submit when men aren’t really able to fill their role. Do you realize how much responsibility that is? I’m not a feminist however I’m also not about women subjecting themselves obediently to men that dont know how to rule with the love of Jesus. There is a lot of emphasis on women being the problem here at least that’s is what I’m hearing on this video but that doesn’t seem right. Men are just as much a problem or more . And this problem is written all over in the Bible like how Adam didn’t protect Eve. Look how God had to use Deborah to lead the men because there simply wasn’t a man who could lead. Why do you suppose?
First of all. You do not have the heart of Deborah in all this. Secondly, Deborah was not normative. Don’t confuse narrative with normative. Third, you are proving Joel’s point. Deborah had to lead because of lack of male leadership. Are you sure that is what is going on in the culture we live in today? In the so called “church” today. You were called to submit to a man that you are married to (your husband) even if they “don’t love like Jesus” 1 Peter 3:1-2. So you have shown that not only do you not want to submit to your husband and expect women not to submit to their husbands if they don’t “love like Jesus” but you are also not willing to submit to the Word of God. However, that was already evident before me typing this out. You speak of men who do not fully respect women, if they have these views. The problem is, you are disrespectful to men and even the Word of God with your views. You cannot see it though, because you grew up in a culture that worships women at every turn so when a man speaks up in a way that shines light in a way of Biblical truth, your sensibility is maxed out and you go to pointing the finger at a problem that Joel isn’t even discussing in this video. It seems to me that you are blinded by your own sinful heart and have deceived yourself or maybe the culture deceived you so much that you cannot see biblical truth when spoken to you. Keep spreading the lies though. Keep perpetuating the lies of the culture.
@@JW-tg1nn so if you could lay out my life you would see all these ways I don’t want to submit to the the Word of God huh? you don’t know that, do you? I love the Word of God. I want to submit to it through and through. I want to submit to it because I LOVE JESUS, who IS GOD. This woman’s comment shows either an outright rebellion of God’s instruction or a lack of knowledge. And I’m a Pharisee because I am showing someone their error? Even Jesus said “if you love Me, you will obey My commandments.” God’s Word is life giving. This woman doesn’t know it or doesn’t want to follow it. She loves the culture more than God or she is just ignorant. And why can’t I see my own previous comment. People like you probably found it offensive and it got removed. I am trying to love someone by showing them their error. This post from @toekneeroni is filled with error. I will not apologize for calling someone out for error. So, instead of calling me names, at least show me some of my own error.
@@JW-tg1nn If her comment is filled with error and I correct her error, this makes me a Pharisee. Ok, Haven’t you taken part in judgement and are completely hypocritical when you make this statement about me? Are you not trying to correct error you see in me? So what’s the difference? Now I don’t agree with your judgment but you are making a judgment, nonetheless! which is exactly what you are saying justifies you calling me a name. Let me be clear, I don’t agree with your judgment but I don’t mind you making a judgment about my messages. You are one confused individual. So is the woman who made the comment. Either that or she is outright rebellious. Keep calling me a Pharisee because I am making a judgment, when you are “guilty” of the very same thing, though.
@@JW-tg1nn what really worries me is that you don’t realize how you can control what “content” is removed. Your lack of understanding the way UA-cam works isn’t cute though. And Joel Webbon is woke?? Haha. Ok.
@@JW-tg1nn I never ever said that we are not all sinful and incapable of perfect obedience. So you continue to make judgements about me that are not based in reality. Going off my comment is exactly what gave you the self righteousness to try to correct me by using a pejorative to insult me and my views. But when I do it, it is not ok and pharisaical. And I am the immature one. You don’t agree with my judging or judgement and are upset because I am calling out clear error in someone’s way of thinking that anyone can see when reading the said comment, so you throw a fit and name call. Now I am immature and twisted because you realize the Pharisee label you gave me is completely hypocritical You will stand before Jesus one day and won’t be able to tell Him that his views and interpretations of His own Word are twisted and immature. You better pray hard.
This got me thinking about how the gender switch started years ago with the role of women running the house and men being subservient. We switched roles now we're switching plumbing.
Anything based on gender norms was merely cultural and no longer applies. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 so any discrepancies in the Bible are decided by me. Anyone that deletes the messages sent from the messenger of Malachi 3:1 rejects Jesus and will automatically die with the wicked. Matthew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven or bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex but opposite in regards to gender. Male or female is determined by gender located in the brain. Anyone that says any different and anybody collecting money for ministering is now blacked out from the holy Spirit and part of the Great Tribulation that began September 1st. They will remain blacked out until they repent and accept truth and return the money they were never supposed to take or they will wait too late and die with the wicked.
It is true that the gender switch is permanently in the "turned off" position. I like my women free of male components altogether, probably even to possess pomegranates if you're picking up what I'm puttin down
This man is verbalizing the major objectionable general attitude towards females that generations of non-indoctrinated women rose up to name, to challenge and to resist. It is tragic that he and others like him have attained a position of authority that gives them influence over young developing characters of both sexes.
The comment is made over and over that women's sin is not being "checked" but Men's sins have been. When and how and where were men's sins checked? Who checks them? It seems that the women's sins must be checked by men but who is checking the men's sins? Where are your references for this? You give references for your statistics about divorce but I see no references whatsoever for this particular point. And this seems to be the point that this whole sermon is based upon.
Good grief if you cannot see that this"Man" it's not the most disgusting human being?! Then honestly I feel sorry for u. This POS is disgusting! Any person that promotes public execution for women who he believes has falsely accused a man of violating them is insane!!!
@@harveyvaags6072 I understand it fully. What does anything, anyone says here have to do with John 6:44? Other than her saying that women can worship Christ in their own right. She’s right. I agree with that right up until she makes the claim that misogyny is the driving force to what Joel is saying. women (and weak men) who cannot accept the Bible verses that clearly teach that male headship is appropriate and resort to a pejorative (I.e. misogyny), have deep rooted misandry in the core of their beliefs. Again, a man is NOT needed for a woman to come to Christ. I never said anything of the sort.
Well, I must say, this is an outstanding presentation. Though I have a somewhat different theological perspective, I think Pastor Joel is spot on regarding the current state of Evangelicalism. Additionally, I fully agree that many--perhaps most--evangelical pastors are cowering in fear, too intimidated to confront Christian women. I have been a pastor for 46 years and now serve in a staff position in a mega-church. My primary responsibilities are assimilating newcomers/new believers and teaching men's ministry. Though we have seen excellent growth (numerically and spiritually) with the men; other staff pastors consider my teaching to the men as problematic. In fact, many of the wives of our men desire to hear for themselves what I present at our men's studies. The key factor is that I teach about the moral content of the New Testament. However, even that has become problematic because it is seen as "too political."
I’m a lady here. The unbiblical divorce and remarriage situation is something I’ve often wondered and have read various pastors take the stand you take. I don’t understand how unbiblical divorce, followed by an unbiblical marriage (now adultery by remarriage) is not a state of ongoing adultery? Would that be similar to a spouse cheating once and committing adultery that one time as compared to a spouse who is in an ongoing affair? If a believer has divorced unbiblically and remarries, wouldn’t it be that believer’s duty to go back to their original spouse and work on their original marriage? I don’t see why not
I was unsure about the biblical view of remarriage. But as I began to read the new testament, I began to notice that the only time there is mention of a woman getting remarried, it is when they are referring to widows. I think there is a passage where it talks about if a unbelieving man leaves his wife, she is no longer under bondage to him. But it doesn't mention that she can remarry.
@@nerychristian That's what not being under bondage means. They are free and therefore CAN remarry. Notice he tells the virgins, the unmarried and the widows to stay as they are, IF THEY CAN, but if they cannot, they don't sin by marrying. Now virgins are people who have never been married, widows are those who were married but their spouse has died, so the unmarried, would be those that used to be married, but no longer are. That's the only other group left.
@@nerychristian That's absurd. Jesus IS the word. So, Paul's writings ARE in the Bible and THAT is the Word. The Word doesn't contradict itself. Jesus was dealing with a specific question from the Pharisees who were talking about putting away, which is no more a divorce than people today just being separated. Paul goes into MUCH more detail about the marriage relationships and ALL the things that can go wrong and how to deal with them. God wouldn't allow people to do something in the OT that is a sin in the new. It's the putting away or sending away WITHOUT a certificate of divorce, that God hates. The men were just kicking their wives out and not going through the official divorce process so they she COULDN'T remarry, just like two people who today get separated but not divorced can't marry. So because of this, women were forced into adultery or prostitution to survive, as women didn't have careers back then. They HAD to be with a man to survive. Without a certificate of divorce they couldn't legally marry again and therefore, those were the two options for them. The idea that Jesus would DEMAND the innocent party stay single, something both Paul and Jesus admitted, few could do, is absurd and a classic case, of people not being able to understand context or taking one passage of the Bible without looking at all the rest, as if it's even POSSIBLE for one passage to address ALL possible issues.
I have been a listner of yours for quite some time now. I have had a lot of respect for you until I listened to this. So shocked. I believe in the biblical order of the home. But you have pushed it to the extreme. In our church we have a biblical counseling center. Our biggest counseling problems have come from households modeled like you discribe. The women are abused by a husband who uses his Bible to hurt his wife. He doesn’t love her, he rules her from everything from the friends she has to the money she spends on food. It is a great place for men like that to go for affirmation. This is sin. The man is not loving his wife like Christ loved the church. It’s is a prime place for narcissism to develop. We have Narcissistic Behavior Dissorder growing in leaps and bounds. So sad to say goodbye but I must.
She's exactly correct. I am a domestic violence counselor with over 25 years in the field and a master's level clinical social worker with 40 years of clinical work, and a Believer. I have seen multiple dozens of examples of abused men and women. Christian men using the Bible to justify controlling their families. Abuse happens by both genders. He's failing to understand that women's violence is in response to the aggression of the man. He's also borderline victim blaming. It's terrifying to hear this misogynist spout this BS. I kept waiting for him to spout how the TV show The Handmaid's Tale is an ideal to strive to emulate. Listen how this supposed shepherd turns to the use of violence. Nothing biblical here, it's only for him about power and control. Read between the lines of what he's saying here, and run.
@jonmoneymaker329 misogyny is the hatred of women. This man is married happily. Men who believe in biblical writings of the husband/wife dynamics do not hate women. They cherish them
Joel this topic is second only to the defense of the true gospel and perhaps part of the defense. The marriage is the building block of church and civil society and a picture of the gospel. Emasculated husbands and masculine wives is not the picture of marriage as a type of the gospel, but of Eve’s desire played out in history. The husband is a type of Christ in the marriage, but he often is neutered and even fragged by the church and feminists alike. The wife as a type of the church is elevated over her husband a picture of a submissive Christ. In this respect complementarianism and egalitarianism are not just destructive relationship advice, but heresy in the type that projects to the antitype. Thanks for giving voice to this most needed of topics.
I say this from personal experience that as my sexual purity increased my fear of women decreased (and fear of man in general). Prov 5 talks about the adulterous women taking the strength of a man. Men if you’re watching porn and pleasuring yourselves you are giving your strength away and by definition you are a weak man. Kill that sin brothers! Or it will kill you.
@12:38 The sin by women as described is not only NOT rebuked or condemned, it is actually rewarded by our legal system. If a man hits a woman, he goes to jail for domestic violence. If a woman hits a man, she does not. If a man is hit repeatedly by a woman and he strikes back in self defense, he goes to jail for domestic violence. In the divorce hearings, a woman is almost never reprimanded for her violence. In the divorce, she is rewarded with excess financial awards by the courts. I have heard women in restaurants discussing divorce and saying "I don't need him anymore. I don't want more kids. I'll get as much money from divorce as I get now, so why should I put up with him?" I have heard that theme repeatedly.
@@RecalledtoLife Categorically untrue is an inaccurate statement. Individual states and individual countries all have their own laws and methods for dividing property. Just as in some places the women come out less wealthy after divorce, there are places where some women in some income brackets do come out ahead financially. Your obvious bias (plus he moves in with his sweetie) is clouding your reasoning and ability to accept this fact. You ignore the fact that women are 2 times more often the initiator of the divorce. Women have also surpassed men in the percentage of who cheated on whom. The number one place that women meet their illicit lovers and which results in them leaving their husbands? FACEBOOK It is a statistical fact and has been the top of the list of numerous studies.
@@RecalledtoLife I have no bias, all persons need to conduct themselves in a blameless manner. You are biased, your comments about "he gets to move in with his sweetie" was completely biased and quite immature considering the context of the video. No one said that the women are the sole source of the problems, yet your last sentences alludes to that bias in the video. You obviously aren't honest enough to admit your bias even after it is shown to you. So there is not reason to try to have a mature and open dialogue with you.
True! I know a man who was REGULARLY being beat by his wife. He was a skinny and quiet little guy. She was quite a bit bigger than him and was very abusive to him. This was a man that I worked with. After YEARS of this woman degrading him and hitting him, he lost his temper and hit her back. He was immediately arrested for domestic violence has been in jail for more than a year now. His life has been ruined by this and everyone jumped straight to outrage that this man hit his wife. Literally nobody cared that she had been abusing him for years. And she was this big hulk of a woman who was bigger than most men………………
www.new-york-divorce-mediation.com/who-initiates-divorce-more-men-or-women/ www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220511-why-women-file-for-divorce-more-than-men www.divorcemag.com/blog/6-reasons-why-women-are-more-likely-to-file-for-divorce-than-men goodmenproject.com/divorce/9-reasons-why-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/ See below for link on domestic violence which contains these facts: “In relationships where violence was non-mutual almost 70% of the violence was perpetrated by the woman. In other words, in almost 7 out of 10 cases of mutual violence, the batterer was a female. Furthermore, mutually violent relationships were most likely to result in injuries to women. However, women who participated in mutually violent behavior with their male partners were more likely to display a pattern of repeated violence than men. Men’s violence was more likely to be isolated and unlikely to be repeated.” www.domestic-violence-law.com/blog/2016/april/women-or-men-who-usually-instigates-domestic-vio/ “A study led by the American Sociological Association determined that nearly 70% of divorces are initiated by women. And the percentage of college-educated American women who initiated divorce is even higher.” “According to 2015 research from the American Sociological Association (ASA), women initiate almost 70 percent of divorces.” If you think this gender imbalance only applies to heterosexual relationships, think again. Same-sex marriage has only been legal in the U.K. since 2014, but a 2017 report from the country's Office for National Statistics found that 78 percent of same-sex marriages that ended in divorce were between two women, indicating that women today might have higher expectations for marriage than men in general.
I’ve been admittedly consuming too much RP content. I am divorced. My ex-wife was a single mother when I married her, she was severely abusive to me. She cheated and left me for another man. They both cohabitate with my only child. I don’t have custody and I pay child support. The last time I’ve had sex was 6 years ago with my then-wife. The Christian pushback against the RP has been outright nauseating, delusional and enabling of continued female misconduct. It makes me question the validity of Christianity often. I’m horrified that ATHEISTS have to defend men like me AGAINST CHRISTIANS. But as angry with God as I am for unfair treatment I wish I could still want him in my life. It’s refreshing to hear a religious face speak something more than shallow lip service and canned platitudes to my experience and the experiences of countless other men. I wish I had a church nearby that I could trust.
It's because Jezebel runs the Western Church and pastors are cowards who DARE not confront her. THEY choose to submit to her. It's completely unbiblical. Jesus Himself addresses the Church of Thyatira which tolerated the Jezebel Spirit and He had VERY harsh warning against it. The Word is True, Let God's Word be True, though EVERY man be a liar. God is Good and He IS Truth, but sadly the western Church doesn't follow Him. But you have the Bible, study it, pray daily with Him, and Pray that He will bring some Godly men into your life for fellowship.
The Godfather of the Manosphere(RP) ,Rollo Tomassi, is a Protestant. He has written 4 books in his Rational Male series. The last book in that series of books specifically deals with religion. Rollo Tomassi has a website which I first came across in around 2011. He also has his own youtube channel.
@@Sandunesea ehhh, she’s now in financial hell and riddled with health problems, so go ahead and thank God for her “freedom.” Why would you wish that on her?
I think it was Randy Carlson on Focus on the Family that first brought this to light about 15 years ago. In his counseling session with couples and on the call in radio show, he noticed that over 80% of the time, the men were the victims of abuse in Christian homes. He then consulted with other counselors and found that they were seeing similar numbers, yet no one was talking about it. The men felt embarrassed and did not want to initiate help in the vast majority of cases. It was only after careful prodding and questioning were the counselors able to get the men to open up about the abuse they were receiving.
I have a question: i have been married, raised children, which are now grown. My husband hassed died. My question is this: if i want to stay unmarried for the rest of my life and live by myself, is that a sin?
He didn’t put a glass ceiling over his wife’s daughters’ heads. The Word of God did. My prayer is that his wife and daughters will love the Word of God and take joy in obedience to it. God’s Word is freeing, not oppressive. I will also pray that you are enlightened by the Lord and stop believing the lie of this satanic culture we live in.
@@Sandunesea here is the reality you live in whether you like it or not. The Bible is God inspired and written by men. The Bible IS the truth that tells us about a person who IS the TRUTH. The Bible is dangerous and speaks about a God who is to be feared. The Bible tells us who we are and who God is. The Bible is the only reliable Truth on the origins of all matter and life. If you do not believe any of the above, the world is going to be a very confusing place for you to live. Your life will be filled with unnecessary anxiety and confusion. Pray and ask the God of Jacob and Isaac to open your eyes.
a hundred dollars is a great deal. depending on the bbq alone that might be worth it 😂. getting speakers is not inexpensive. james white alone itll be cheaper for you to pay 100$ as opposed to get him to come to your church personally
You really pissed of the so called women with this one. You can see how manipulative they are in the comments as well by how they instantly have to start blaming others for their actions. God bless you brother.
That insight about needing to address the issue of eunuchs in marriage very soon with the generation of transgenderism and its repercussions was profound Pastor Joel! I am currently getting trained up to enter into pastoral ministry so I am now also seeing the need to research that was well so I have an answer when it comes to my doorstep in 5-10 years. Appreciate your ministry and your verbal processing that stumbles upon these deeper issues!
On the issue of multiple services, I think it's important to distinguish between multiple services in which an individual or family is only expected to attend one (e.g., 8:00, 9:30, and 11:00 morning services), and multiple services where an individual or family are expected to attend both (e.g., morning and evening services). On the latter, while I don't (yet) agree with my pastor that it's the normative biblical practice as adapted from morning and evening sacrifices, I at least see it as being permissible based on that model. I can accept the former if it's a temporary situation where the congregation are providentially hindered from all meeting together for a time--say the congregation have grown too big for their facility, and you're building or buying (or looking to rent) another building for that purpose. But as a permanent thing, at a minimum, I'd say it's bad practice--doubly so if the services differ significantly from each other.
I totally agree but would add that if there are so many people that they can’t fit into one service due to the facility size, it might be time to plant another church, if there are elders available to do so.
Its sad how most sin that brings people and nations continues to be the same kind that junior highschooler "struggle" with: keeping it in our pants, or not hosting pants parties. We never learn
Was never encouraged by Driscoll as something seemed...off, (unfaithful) to me in the mix even before the revelations. Joel is different...I think the public confession and repentance is a huge difference. He's firm/strong but not a mercenary.
If I'm not mistaken, In my Christian singles group, 100% of the divorced women have been the ones who filed for divorce. 95% of them are opened to remarriage for some reason.
I made it to the end and I hope people that don’t agree with you would be challenged to search the scriptures the way God has revealed this so clearly. As a woman this was so enriching and so edifying. Everything you said was spot on and exactly what pastors, and woman need to be thinking with a biblical patriarch worldview in the pulpit and defending Gods word in the roles for woman and men. And holding woman more accountable to fulfill their God given roles & to uproot men in being masculine the way God designed it🙏🏼
Pastors ALL across the land need to start preaching against it until there is enough outrage against it, that it stops. To get THAT to happen, lay people like us need to wake up our brothers and sisters in Christ to this evil and get their pastors to start addressing it.
Hi Pastor Joel! Yes, please keep preaching - I am one of the 25% that this message about feminism is resonating with. My mother was a feminist and I have always hated feminism - even as a little girl I couldn’t understand it. I have always felt like I didn’t fit in with the world and now I know why. Thank you for your faithful preaching!
The issue with Gisele and Brady is that Brady didn't want to spend time with his kids. Retired and then unretired after a couple of months. That being said, her rumored relationships after this leave me to question her taste in men (see Antonio Brown and Pete Davidson)
She was getting busy with the jiujitsu coach before she divorced him. The “you picked your career over me” is a smokescreen. I’ve dealt with an unfaithful wife, this is what they do. Any reason imagined that “could make sense.” They’ll use it.
What a GROSS misrepresentation of what happened. Tom absolutely loved his kids and wanted to spend time with them. GISELLE gave him an ultimatum, quit your career a few years early or I'm leaving you. She wasn't asking him to stop getting drunk or sleep around, she DEMANDED that he give up his passion or she'd leave. The ONLY mistake he made was actually obeying her and giving in to her ultimatum. HE did not choose his career over marriage, SHE demanded He give up something good or SHE'D leave. BTW, she's also a witch. A LITERAL Witch. The fact that so many conservacucks actually twisted that story to make it look like TOM picked football over the marriage is SICK and shows just how cucked and gynocentric the world has become. Also, as noted by the other guy, Giselle was getting busy with the KIDS' Jiujitsu instructor. I am sure she never expected Tom to agree to give up the career, so when he did and found out what was REALLY going on, he went back, and shortly thereafter she ends up with the instructor.
On your remark that “you can’t really love women if you are unwilling to call out their sins”, which of course you’re right on (as is the reverse surely) & it got me thinking. If pastors & priests exclusively tailor their sermons to praising all women always, and regardless of their behavior, they are by default depriving & attempting to re-distribute the glory that rightfully belongs to the selfless God-fearing wives, mothers, & women among us. But if all women are deemed righteous, spectacular, & pious, then how could the wonderful Christian women such as your wife, Lori Alexander, & my Titus 2 grandmother ever truly be special? According to their own distorted logic, these women cannot be genuinely unique or admirable, even though these women should absolutely be acknowledged, praised, & celebrated. Like, and are we really to believe that all the women in the pews are all equally as amazing as the Christian women who were martyred for their unwavering faith in Jesus Christ during the fall of Constantinople or the Armenian Jenn-oh-side, ridiculous. I commend you Pastor Joel for calling this nonsense out, it takes a lot of courage. God bless you and your family.
In searching for a church home I found that a lot of pastors allowing wives to co-pastor the church with them. I did see this an error, thank you for this affirmation of women’s role in marriage and the church.
The recent Darrell Brooks case with the female Judge and prosecutor are a perfect example of our weakness. If we have to walk on eggshells to put away a man that drove through a parade then society is trouble.
@@RightResponseMinistries A man cannot preach without the woman but a woman needs no man to preach. What power does a man have if he has no life? The woman does for the man something the man cannot do for himself.
@@T-Dog_nation But that logic cuts both ways because women wouldn’t exist without men either. That’s true both in the Creation account because Eve came from Adam, and it’s true in modern day as well since no woman can be conceived without a man.
Women are the vessels which God uses to bring life. Either way it doesn't matteras the ability to birth is not a biblical standard for preaching@thomasmills8954
Women and minority's sin is not just "unchecked" but cheered: our world actively enables and encourages them to sin by saying they are sinned against far greater than they themselves have sinned, which is totally untrue for any of us. Our sin against God is our greatest problem.
I kid you not, at our church, not only do they stop the service to HONOR women on Mother's day, but they give SPECIAL Accolades and Honor to SINGLE Mothers! Are you KIDDING ME?! The CHURCH is literally cheering on and holding SINGLE Mothers in special esteem!
@@cryptojihadi265single mothers are the parent that stayed. You should be giving crap to the father not doing his duty as a parent. But no, always blaming women…
@@laurienoel8392That's quite an assumption you're making. Are you excluding the possibility that some single mothers initiated a divorce from their husband and were awarded primary custody of the children by the courts despite the father trying to gain custody? Or perhaps the woman chose to have sex outside marriage and are a single mother as a result of their own actions?
Anything based on gender norms no longer applies. It was merely cultural. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 so any discrepancies in the Bible are decided by me and anyone that rejects me rejects Jesus and will die with the wicked.
- - Elizabeth. Rachel. Sara. Rebekah. Hannah. Samson's mother. - God blessed all of these women who were initially barren, with children who had great impact. Maybe God will use those who, because of their choices and the choices of others, to serve him in a special way.
Charging for conferences using the gospel is completely against the bible. Anyone collecting money for ministering in any way is now blacked out from the holy Spirit and will be until they either repent and bring the money back or way too late and die with the wicked.
Take jesus name out of your corrupt mouth you will bow to him! Your life is a short period he WILL BE YOUR JUDGE what an evil twist of his word wow this is evil 😈
I just started listening to your message, but just to let you know there are people who are on fire and really seeking biblical truth but who are on disability and can barely make ends meet or buy food much less spend $100 for a conference. A big problem at my old church was that I wanted community yet every single thing that they did involved money and it was very offputting and upsetting for me. Anyway, I like your messages, but just wanted to let you know that this is a reality for some people. God bless you, brother, and I am grateful for free messages on UA-cam given my financial struggles
Was speaking with my pastor about the trans movement and the eunuchs of Jesus's time. We need to prepare ourselves to deliver the gospel to these people. It is the only hope they have. There will be alot of them. 1st Romans. As such WERE you. I'll admit it will be difficult for me to not say " you did this to yourself."
Thank you so much Pastor Joel! I also am one of the 25% of women that listen to your podcast on a regular basis; and I very much hope more and more Christians wake up to this message and what the scriptures actually say about Biblical Patriarchy! I hope you stay encouraged and continue to bring the truth to the not only the church, but the public square! God bless you and your family!
Where are the sermons teaching men of their curse found Genesis 3: "17Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’: “Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it All the days of your life. 18Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field. 19In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread Till you return to the ground, For out of it you were taken; For dust you are, And to dust you shall return" Most men (not all men, just as not all women), complain of work. Why? Struggle in work is a consequence of man's sin. It's going to be tough. "Man up" already, men! Just as women have had to "woman up" during birth labor.
Women CAN preach because they are gifted by God as he gifts some men. Beth Moore can preach circles around you any day. One of the most gifted Biblical teacher preachers of our time. Too bad your insecurities have to try to diminish what God has gifted her. Very sad.
Question: re physical discipline/spanking children. I have an 18 month old daughter and another on the way and want a quiver full. My daughter is an absolute blessing and delight but she’s just started getting more disobedient, at what age should spanking be introduced if at all? Thanks and God bless you Joel
I've got 4 kids. At 1 yr I lightly popped the butt and at 2 I would do it harder/multiple times. It's meant to hurt a little. Also I only ever use my hand. If it's a particularly heinous incident I never increase how hard I whoop or the amount of pops, I add to the whooping with timeout or taking toys or TV or whatever. Set clear rules and boundaries. For example if you do this I will spank you for it. And if you do this I will not spank you but put you in timeout but if you go to timeout for the same thing 3 times in a day then it's going to be a spanking every time after that. Also, I talk to my children a lot, usually ill bring up whatever incident they got in trouble for later and talk to them about it, tell them why it was bad, why they shouldn't do it, what the Bible says about it, and what would happen if they were an adult and did it. Also there are things that are wrong that they don't get in trouble for unless they keep doing it after I tell them to stop such as interrupting. If I tell you 3 times to stop interrupting then you'll get a timeout. Just make sure the punishments fit the crime and are consistent.
@@spreadofthegospelministrie1154 you cannot teach a child that hitting is wrong and then hit your own child and call it discipline. Spanking hitting it's all the same. You really want to cause pain to your children I have a 1year I'm trying to teach her empathy how am I to do that if I hit her she will think it's ok. Plz don't use pain and violence to teach children
There is no Biblical mandate to spank children. The only argument I’ve ever heard worth engaging is the rod verses in proverbs which can be taken apart really easily. It’s not a command. It’s just not. ESP not for girls (in the rod verses, the word for child is na’ar which meant young adult male 🤷🏻♀️) Discipline means to teach. I highly highly recommend reading Hold on to Your Kids by Gordon Neufeld and learn about child development. I never spanked any of my kids and they are amazing 🥰. It’s not a necessary thing and it is almost always counter productive/will make everything harder in the long run.
@@repentorperish1386You're all nuts! So, hitting your neighbor is violence. Hitting your spouse is violence. Hitting your co-worker is violence. BUT HITTING YOUR CHILD IS OK?!!!😠 Does your Heavenly Father pop you on your butt when you disobey Him? Is is He a merciful Father? Our children are little humans, who have no knowledge or experience in this life. Our job is to love them, teach them, guide them, be patient with them, and to set a great example. They are not little robots. They SHOULD be curious and ask a ton of questions! And YES, I have children. 5 children. Oldest one is 21. I know very well what I am talking about.
Prior to feminism the daughters were protected. Protections and Provisions of father till holy matrimony then to husband who Protects and Provides. All women covered.
I liked a lot of this episode though I do disagree with the idea that because Ketanji Brown Jackson is a woman that’s why she is soft on CP offenders. I believe it’s because she is an unbeliever, and not just an unbeliever who doesn’t know if there is a God, but an unbeliever who follows the devil and is in complete agreement with whatever agenda the devil wants to being forth onto our societies.
Joel...you are right in spirit on this topic...But I'm afraid that even you aren't aware of how much unbiblical egalitarian assumptions you bring in your own analysis. Go to the 1hour mark in this video. You assume that a woman has the right to divorce her husband if he lies sexually with another woman. There is nothing in the Bible that supports this. Jesus tells us a man has the right to put away his wife if she commits adultery. The woman does not have that right Essentially the mans duties in the marriage covenant are different than the woman's duties in the marriage covenant. JUST LIKE God's duties to His people are different than the duties of the people. The essential elements of the husband's duties is protection and provision. The essential elements of the wife's duties is sole Fidelity to her one huaband. This is why a man may divorce his wife for sexual unfaithfulness while the man is free to have more than one woman so long as He provides and protects. See Exodus 20:10. United States Law actually recognized this fact as late as 1937. Thats when women got the right to divorce due to "adultery". Less than 100 years later our culture cannot tell men and women apart. Joel, you have unwittingly been indoctrinated into unbiblical assumptions. Let the Bible speak for itself instead of imbibing traditions. When we equate the primary duty of the man and the woman towards one another, we have already begun the slide towards egalitarianism. It starts at the fundamental level.
I struggle with being quiet and gentle. These teachings I accept as truth and God’s design. Left a church in Georgetown after attending a women’s conference. I do think it would be helpful if more men in the church boldly assumed their assigned roles. Feel like a walking contradiction. Drawn to messages that don’t apologize for patriarchal responsibilities while working towards living what I believe to be true.
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54:43 I’m a woman, I’m listening for the purpose of teaching my daughters the very opposite
This man and. Those like him are what makes societies terrible to live in.
@@edwinGuyle this man and men who thought like him are who assisted in allowing the most free and prosperous nation to be put in place.
I'm sickened by this phony religious creepiness. CREEP.
You are literally INSANE.
Elaborate why?
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Read my comment. I’ll give you evidence of why you’re crazy.
It's unbelievable that in the 21st century there are crackpots as deeply deluded as this guy. He's one step from stoning women to death for displeasing a man. But give him a mic and off he goes...
If by insane you mean “on point” then yeah
"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits" this guy smells of rotten apples.
More like the stench of homeless feces littering big city streets.
If he could lower the pitch of his voice he could get the Oscar for a Silence of the Lambs type.
Read Proverbs 31. That woman was buying fields, trading, out in the community.
Oh my God I hope he's not married poor wife/wives 😅
Cringe
There are SO MANY problems (biblical interpretation, research, and cultural examples) here that vastly overwhelm the moments of good insight. When he describes bears as both fierce and unable to nurture children - as if all bears are male! As if mother bears aren’t fierce! As if female bears cannot both fight and nurture - it is clear that he is not only beyond the pale, but that he is completely self-unaware.
I stopped listening after you stated false statistics on physical violence in marriages. Also, I hope your followers know there are other forms of abuse in marriage. Ones that are more damaging and detrimental to every member in the family, with lasting impacts.
"Controlling abuse is usually called intimate terrorism, and over 90% of the perpetrators are male. In a typical case a husband might prevent a wife from seeing friends or family and make her feel guilty or afraid if she defies him. He may threaten harm against children if she tries to leave, or badger her incessantly to get what he wants." -AAMFT
If a women is marrying a man that cannot control his emotions or lacks stoicism that is the womens fault. It is imperative that Men in your life vet your boyfriends as love clouds judgment. Women should not marry abusive men. And men should not marry abusive women
He, and his ilk, are dangerous fanatics.
@@audiojake8dude. Are you really blaming the victims instead of the abusers? What a terrible take.
If there is any partial value to Webbon’s over-correction, it is that he has properly re-owned for himself the pre-modern label of “patriarchy” (which sees women as second class and subservient to their honorable men); rather than ruin the better term and category of complementarianism which arose specifically to overcome the problematic abuse and chauvinism within patriarchy. At least he sees the difference. Sadly, he is throwing away all the advantages as he moves backwards.
Thank you for sharing this, I have been hoping for a Christian voice for issues concerning the Manosphere. I grew up when women taking spiritual leadership roles in the house and the men having all the responsibility without authority. All responsibility with no authority is slavery and this is the sad state of men today. I do see women speaking out but it’s a minority
Very well said.
Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8 is talking to the thieving Church leaders. It is the answer to end covid and almost all ministers now know when they return the money they were never supposed to take for ministering then God will throw open the floodgates of heaven and end covid.
But the thieving church leaders love money so much they would rather continue taking the money knowing every time they do they kill more people with covid. Talk about evil.
Anyone that deletes or rejects the messages sent from the messenger of Malachi 3:1 rejects Jesus and will automatically die with the wicked.
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We need more women like you out there!
Very well said. God bless you richly!
I've said for a long time now that the most dangerous position to be in, is to have responsibility without authority, and the most dangerous person to be is one with authority but no responsibility.
Are you serious!!
I have yet to talk with a man with these beliefs that fully respects women. They don’t they just don’t. Instead they look down at women as inferior. Im how can a woman be expected to submit when men aren’t really able to fill their role. Do you realize how much responsibility that is? I’m not a feminist however I’m also not about women subjecting themselves obediently to men that dont know how to rule with the love of Jesus. There is a lot of emphasis on women being the problem here at least that’s is what I’m hearing on this video but that doesn’t seem right. Men are just as much a problem or more . And this problem is written all over in the Bible like how Adam didn’t protect Eve. Look how God had to use Deborah to lead the men because there simply wasn’t a man who could lead. Why do you suppose?
First of all. You do not have the heart of Deborah in all this. Secondly, Deborah was not normative. Don’t confuse narrative with normative. Third, you are proving Joel’s point. Deborah had to lead because of lack of male leadership. Are you sure that is what is going on in the culture we live in today? In the so called “church” today.
You were called to submit to a man that you are married to (your husband) even if they “don’t love like Jesus” 1 Peter 3:1-2. So you have shown that not only do you not want to submit to your husband and expect women not to submit to their husbands if they don’t “love like Jesus” but you are also not willing to submit to the Word of God. However, that was already evident before me typing this out.
You speak of men who do not fully respect women, if they have these views. The problem is, you are disrespectful to men and even the Word of God with your views. You cannot see it though, because you grew up in a culture that worships women at every turn so when a man speaks up in a way that shines light in a way of Biblical truth, your sensibility is maxed out and you go to pointing the finger at a problem that Joel isn’t even discussing in this video.
It seems to me that you are blinded by your own sinful heart and have deceived yourself or maybe the culture deceived you so much that you cannot see biblical truth when spoken to you.
Keep spreading the lies though. Keep perpetuating the lies of the culture.
@@JW-tg1nn so if you could lay out my life you would see all these ways I don’t want to submit to the the Word of God huh? you don’t know that, do you? I love the Word of God. I want to submit to it through and through. I want to submit to it because I LOVE JESUS, who IS GOD.
This woman’s comment shows either an outright rebellion of God’s instruction or a lack of knowledge.
And I’m a Pharisee because I am showing someone their error? Even Jesus said “if you love Me, you will obey My commandments.”
God’s Word is life giving. This woman doesn’t know it or doesn’t want to follow it. She loves the culture more than God or she is just ignorant.
And why can’t I see my own previous comment. People like you probably found it offensive and it got removed.
I am trying to love someone by showing them their error. This post from @toekneeroni is filled with error.
I will not apologize for calling someone out for error.
So, instead of calling me names, at least show me some of my own error.
@@JW-tg1nn If her comment is filled with error and I correct her error, this makes me a Pharisee. Ok, Haven’t you taken part in judgement and are completely hypocritical when you make this statement about me? Are you not trying to correct error you see in me? So what’s the difference? Now I don’t agree with your judgment but you are making a judgment, nonetheless! which is exactly what you are saying justifies you calling me a name. Let me be clear, I don’t agree with your judgment but I don’t mind you making a judgment about my messages.
You are one confused individual. So is the woman who made the comment. Either that or she is outright rebellious.
Keep calling me a Pharisee because I am making a judgment, when you are “guilty” of the very same thing, though.
@@JW-tg1nn what really worries me is that you don’t realize how you can control what “content” is removed. Your lack of understanding the way UA-cam works isn’t cute though.
And Joel Webbon is woke?? Haha. Ok.
@@JW-tg1nn I never ever said that we are not all sinful and incapable of perfect obedience.
So you continue to make judgements about me that are not based in reality.
Going off my comment is exactly what gave you the self righteousness to try to correct me by using a pejorative to insult me and my views. But when I do it, it is not ok and pharisaical. And I am the immature one.
You don’t agree with my judging or judgement and are upset because I am calling out clear error in someone’s way of thinking that anyone can see when reading the said comment, so you throw a fit and name call. Now I am immature and twisted because you realize the Pharisee label you gave me is completely hypocritical
You will stand before Jesus one day and won’t be able to tell Him that his views and interpretations of His own Word are twisted and immature. You better pray hard.
You need to follow and listen to the URCNA, OPC, and other stern, righteously indignant denominational leaders.
Hallelujah for the women he didn't keep his word and she had enough
Joel over here looking like a reformed Matt Walsh :-)
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Matt Walsh is a demon hybrid that lies on purpose because the only way demon hybrids can take you is by getting you to believe their lies.
Lol. I've thought the exact same thing.
Yes....I was so confused!
This got me thinking about how the gender switch started years ago with the role of women running the house and men being subservient. We switched roles now we're switching plumbing.
Exactly right.
Anything based on gender norms was merely cultural and no longer applies. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 so any discrepancies in the Bible are decided by me. Anyone that deletes the messages sent from the messenger of Malachi 3:1 rejects Jesus and will automatically die with the wicked. Matthew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs for the sake of the Kingdom of heaven or bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex but opposite in regards to gender. Male or female is determined by gender located in the brain. Anyone that says any different and anybody collecting money for ministering is now blacked out from the holy Spirit and part of the Great Tribulation that began September 1st. They will remain blacked out until they repent and accept truth and return the money they were never supposed to take or they will wait too late and die with the wicked.
It is true that the gender switch is permanently in the "turned off" position. I like my women free of male components altogether, probably even to possess pomegranates if you're picking up what I'm puttin down
This man is verbalizing the major objectionable general attitude towards females that generations of non-indoctrinated women rose up to name, to challenge and to resist. It is tragic that he and others like him have attained a position of authority that gives them influence over young developing characters of both sexes.
The comment is made over and over that women's sin is not being "checked" but Men's sins have been. When and how and where were men's sins checked? Who checks them? It seems that the women's sins must be checked by men but who is checking the men's sins? Where are your references for this? You give references for your statistics about divorce but I see no references whatsoever for this particular point. And this seems to be the point that this whole sermon is based upon.
Good grief if you cannot see that this"Man" it's not the most disgusting human being?! Then honestly I feel sorry for u. This POS is disgusting! Any person that promotes public execution for women who he believes has falsely accused a man of violating them is insane!!!
Women can worship Christ in our own right. We don't need your misogyny to "guide" us.
Let’s talk about your misandristic approach to “Christianity” that you clearly have.
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@@Josh-qo7ydmisandristic? What part of John 6:44 do you not understand?
@@harveyvaags6072 I understand it fully. What does anything, anyone says here have to do with John 6:44? Other than her saying that women can worship Christ in their own right. She’s right. I agree with that right up until she makes the claim that misogyny is the driving force to what Joel is saying. women (and weak men) who cannot accept the Bible verses that clearly teach that male headship is appropriate and resort to a pejorative (I.e. misogyny), have deep rooted misandry in the core of their beliefs.
Again, a man is NOT needed for a woman to come to Christ. I never said anything of the sort.
But SHE can be called to be a neurosurgeon who will possibly save a life someday.....but not a preacher.
Well, I must say, this is an outstanding presentation. Though I have a somewhat different theological perspective, I think Pastor Joel is spot on regarding the current state of Evangelicalism. Additionally, I fully agree that many--perhaps most--evangelical pastors are cowering in fear, too intimidated to confront Christian women.
I have been a pastor for 46 years and now serve in a staff position in a mega-church. My primary responsibilities are assimilating newcomers/new believers and teaching men's ministry. Though we have seen excellent growth (numerically and spiritually) with the men; other staff pastors consider my teaching to the men as problematic. In fact, many of the wives of our men desire to hear for themselves what I present at our men's studies. The key factor is that I teach about the moral content of the New Testament. However, even that has become problematic because it is seen as "too political."
I’m a lady here. The unbiblical divorce and remarriage situation is something I’ve often wondered and have read various pastors take the stand you take. I don’t understand how unbiblical divorce, followed by an unbiblical marriage (now adultery by remarriage) is not a state of ongoing adultery? Would that be similar to a spouse cheating once and committing adultery that one time as compared to a spouse who is in an ongoing affair?
If a believer has divorced unbiblically and remarries, wouldn’t it be that believer’s duty to go back to their original spouse and work on their original marriage? I don’t see why not
I was unsure about the biblical view of remarriage. But as I began to read the new testament, I began to notice that the only time there is mention of a woman getting remarried, it is when they are referring to widows. I think there is a passage where it talks about if a unbelieving man leaves his wife, she is no longer under bondage to him. But it doesn't mention that she can remarry.
@@nerychristian That's what not being under bondage means. They are free and therefore CAN remarry. Notice he tells the virgins, the unmarried and the widows to stay as they are, IF THEY CAN, but if they cannot, they don't sin by marrying.
Now virgins are people who have never been married, widows are those who were married but their spouse has died, so the unmarried, would be those that used to be married, but no longer are. That's the only other group left.
@@nerychristian That's absurd. Jesus IS the word. So, Paul's writings ARE in the Bible and THAT is the Word. The Word doesn't contradict itself. Jesus was dealing with a specific question from the Pharisees who were talking about putting away, which is no more a divorce than people today just being separated.
Paul goes into MUCH more detail about the marriage relationships and ALL the things that can go wrong and how to deal with them.
God wouldn't allow people to do something in the OT that is a sin in the new.
It's the putting away or sending away WITHOUT a certificate of divorce, that God hates. The men were just kicking their wives out and not going through the official divorce process so they she COULDN'T remarry, just like two people who today get separated but not divorced can't marry.
So because of this, women were forced into adultery or prostitution to survive, as women didn't have careers back then. They HAD to be with a man to survive. Without a certificate of divorce they couldn't legally marry again and therefore, those were the two options for them.
The idea that Jesus would DEMAND the innocent party stay single, something both Paul and Jesus admitted, few could do, is absurd and a classic case, of people not being able to understand context or taking one passage of the Bible without looking at all the rest, as if it's even POSSIBLE for one passage to address ALL possible issues.
I have been a listner of yours for quite some time now. I have had a lot of respect for you until I listened to this. So shocked. I believe in the biblical order of the home. But you have pushed it to the extreme. In our church we have a biblical counseling center. Our biggest counseling problems have come from households modeled like you discribe. The women are abused by a husband who uses his Bible to hurt his wife. He doesn’t love her, he rules her from everything from the friends she has to the money she spends on food. It is a great place for men like that to go for affirmation. This is sin. The man is not loving his wife like Christ loved the church. It’s is a prime place for narcissism to develop. We have Narcissistic Behavior Dissorder growing in leaps and bounds. So sad to say goodbye but I must.
She's exactly correct. I am a domestic violence counselor with over 25 years in the field and a master's level clinical social worker with 40 years of clinical work, and a Believer. I have seen multiple dozens of examples of abused men and women. Christian men using the Bible to justify controlling their families. Abuse happens by both genders. He's failing to understand that women's violence is in response to the aggression of the man. He's also borderline victim blaming. It's terrifying to hear this misogynist spout this BS. I kept waiting for him to spout how the TV show The Handmaid's Tale is an ideal to strive to emulate. Listen how this supposed shepherd turns to the use of violence. Nothing biblical here, it's only for him about power and control. Read between the lines of what he's saying here, and run.
@jonmoneymaker329 misogyny is the hatred of women. This man is married happily.
Men who believe in biblical writings of the husband/wife dynamics do not hate women.
They cherish them
Talk about stretching Bible verses! No context required.
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Joel this topic is second only to the defense of the true gospel and perhaps part of the defense. The marriage is the building block of church and civil society and a picture of the gospel. Emasculated husbands and masculine wives is not the picture of marriage as a type of the gospel, but of Eve’s desire played out in history. The husband is a type of Christ in the marriage, but he often is neutered and even fragged by the church and feminists alike. The wife as a type of the church is elevated over her husband a picture of a submissive Christ. In this respect complementarianism and egalitarianism are not just destructive relationship advice, but heresy in the type that projects to the antitype.
Thanks for giving voice to this most needed of topics.
Well said!!
I say this from personal experience that as my sexual purity increased my fear of women decreased (and fear of man in general). Prov 5 talks about the adulterous women taking the strength of a man. Men if you’re watching porn and pleasuring yourselves you are giving your strength away and by definition you are a weak man. Kill that sin brothers! Or it will kill you.
@12:38 The sin by women as described is not only NOT rebuked or condemned, it is actually rewarded by our legal system. If a man hits a woman, he goes to jail for domestic violence. If a woman hits a man, she does not. If a man is hit repeatedly by a woman and he strikes back in self defense, he goes to jail for domestic violence.
In the divorce hearings, a woman is almost never reprimanded for her violence. In the divorce, she is rewarded with excess financial awards by the courts. I have heard women in restaurants discussing divorce and saying "I don't need him anymore. I don't want more kids. I'll get as much money from divorce as I get now, so why should I put up with him?" I have heard that theme repeatedly.
@@RecalledtoLife Categorically untrue is an inaccurate statement. Individual states and individual countries all have their own laws and methods for dividing property. Just as in some places the women come out less wealthy after divorce, there are places where some women in some income brackets do come out ahead financially. Your obvious bias (plus he moves in with his sweetie) is clouding your reasoning and ability to accept this fact. You ignore the fact that women are 2 times more often the initiator of the divorce. Women have also surpassed men in the percentage of who cheated on whom. The number one place that women meet their illicit lovers and which results in them leaving their husbands? FACEBOOK
It is a statistical fact and has been the top of the list of numerous studies.
@@RecalledtoLife I have no bias, all persons need to conduct themselves in a blameless manner.
You are biased, your comments about "he gets to move in with his sweetie" was completely biased and quite immature considering the context of the video. No one said that the women are the sole source of the problems, yet your last sentences alludes to that bias in the video. You obviously aren't honest enough to admit your bias even after it is shown to you. So there is not reason to try to have a mature and open dialogue with you.
True! I know a man who was REGULARLY being beat by his wife. He was a skinny and quiet little guy. She was quite a bit bigger than him and was very abusive to him. This was a man that I worked with. After YEARS of this woman degrading him and hitting him, he lost his temper and hit her back. He was immediately arrested for domestic violence has been in jail for more than a year now. His life has been ruined by this and everyone jumped straight to outrage that this man hit his wife. Literally nobody cared that she had been abusing him for years. And she was this big hulk of a woman who was bigger than most men………………
Joel - you need to do an entire sermon series / Bible study / book series on this topic - thank you for your courage to address!
Can you provide the info for the 2006 study you were referencing and any of the other marital/abuse statistics mentioned?
www.new-york-divorce-mediation.com/who-initiates-divorce-more-men-or-women/
www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20220511-why-women-file-for-divorce-more-than-men
www.divorcemag.com/blog/6-reasons-why-women-are-more-likely-to-file-for-divorce-than-men
goodmenproject.com/divorce/9-reasons-why-women-initiate-divorce-more-than-men/
See below for link on domestic violence which contains these facts:
“In relationships where violence was non-mutual almost 70% of the violence was perpetrated by the woman. In other words, in almost 7 out of 10 cases of mutual violence, the batterer was a female.
Furthermore, mutually violent relationships were most likely to result in injuries to women. However, women who participated in mutually violent behavior with their male partners were more likely to display a pattern of repeated violence than men. Men’s violence was more likely to be isolated and unlikely to be repeated.”
www.domestic-violence-law.com/blog/2016/april/women-or-men-who-usually-instigates-domestic-vio/
“A study led by the American Sociological Association determined that nearly 70% of divorces are initiated by women. And the percentage of college-educated American women who initiated divorce is even higher.”
“According to 2015 research from the American Sociological Association (ASA), women initiate almost 70 percent of divorces.”
If you think this gender imbalance only applies to heterosexual relationships, think again. Same-sex marriage has only been legal in the U.K. since 2014, but a 2017 report from the country's Office for National Statistics found that 78 percent of same-sex marriages that ended in divorce were between two women, indicating that women today might have higher expectations for marriage than men in general.
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Thank you
Thank you!
Your sources are not peer reviewed sources. You would be more credible if you provided actual scientific studies
Your sources are not peer reviewed sources. You would be more credible if you provided actual scientific studies
This was a really great conversation. Thanks, Pastor Joel! I'm going to be sharing it.
What a tool....
I’ve been admittedly consuming too much RP content.
I am divorced. My ex-wife was a single mother when I married her, she was severely abusive to me. She cheated and left me for another man. They both cohabitate with my only child. I don’t have custody and I pay child support. The last time I’ve had sex was 6 years ago with my then-wife.
The Christian pushback against the RP has been outright nauseating, delusional and enabling of continued female misconduct. It makes me question the validity of Christianity often. I’m horrified that ATHEISTS have to defend men like me AGAINST CHRISTIANS.
But as angry with God as I am for unfair treatment I wish I could still want him in my life.
It’s refreshing to hear a religious face speak something more than shallow lip service and canned platitudes to my experience and the experiences of countless other men.
I wish I had a church nearby that I could trust.
It's because Jezebel runs the Western Church and pastors are cowards who DARE not confront her. THEY choose to submit to her. It's completely unbiblical. Jesus Himself addresses the Church of Thyatira which tolerated the Jezebel Spirit and He had VERY harsh warning against it.
The Word is True, Let God's Word be True, though EVERY man be a liar.
God is Good and He IS Truth, but sadly the western Church doesn't follow Him. But you have the Bible, study it, pray daily with Him, and Pray that He will bring some Godly men into your life for fellowship.
The Godfather of the Manosphere(RP) ,Rollo Tomassi, is a Protestant. He has written 4 books in his Rational Male series. The last book in that series of books specifically deals with religion. Rollo Tomassi has a website which I first came across in around 2011. He also has his own youtube channel.
We thank God that your ex wife is free of you
@@Sandunesea ehhh, she’s now in financial hell and riddled with health problems, so go ahead and thank God for her “freedom.” Why would you wish that on her?
@@electric5hadow she wouldn’t have been if she never met you. You are the scourge that happened to her
I think it was Randy Carlson on Focus on the Family that first brought this to light about 15 years ago. In his counseling session with couples and on the call in radio show, he noticed that over 80% of the time, the men were the victims of abuse in Christian homes. He then consulted with other counselors and found that they were seeing similar numbers, yet no one was talking about it. The men felt embarrassed and did not want to initiate help in the vast majority of cases. It was only after careful prodding and questioning were the counselors able to get the men to open up about the abuse they were receiving.
I have a question: i have been married, raised children, which are now grown. My husband hassed died. My question is this: if i want to stay unmarried for the rest of my life and live by myself, is that a sin?
@@brandieller4339 no.
Pray and think for yourself
😂😂😂 what are you? A child, can’t you think for yourself
Does a divorce prior to being saved forfeit getting married after being saved?
Did you make vows before God when you married?
This ideology is oppressive and frightening. I will pray for your wife and daughters and the glass ceiling you have put over their heads.
He didn’t put a glass ceiling over his wife’s daughters’ heads. The Word of God did. My prayer is that his wife and daughters will love the Word of God and take joy in obedience to it. God’s Word is freeing, not oppressive.
I will also pray that you are enlightened by the Lord and stop believing the lie of this satanic culture we live in.
@@Josh-qo7yd then the word of God is dangerous after all men write the Bible and claimed the God did
@@Sandunesea the Word of God is very dangerous. You are correct about this. It’s dangerous and powerful and good. It is the BEST thing for us.
@@Josh-qo7yd no it is not
@@Sandunesea here is the reality you live in whether you like it or not.
The Bible is God inspired and written by men.
The Bible IS the truth that tells us about a person who IS the TRUTH.
The Bible is dangerous and speaks about a God who is to be feared.
The Bible tells us who we are and who God is.
The Bible is the only reliable Truth on the origins of all matter and life.
If you do not believe any of the above, the world is going to be a very confusing place for you to live. Your life will be filled with unnecessary anxiety and confusion.
Pray and ask the God of Jacob and Isaac to open your eyes.
a hundred dollars is a great deal. depending on the bbq alone that might be worth it 😂. getting speakers is not inexpensive. james white alone itll be cheaper for you to pay 100$ as opposed to get him to come to your church personally
Yep!
Excellent!!! 🙌🏻
You really pissed of the so called women with this one. You can see how manipulative they are in the comments as well by how they instantly have to start blaming others for their actions.
God bless you brother.
Fitting name for u 🙄
That insight about needing to address the issue of eunuchs in marriage very soon with the generation of transgenderism and its repercussions was profound Pastor Joel! I am currently getting trained up to enter into pastoral ministry so I am now also seeing the need to research that was well so I have an answer when it comes to my doorstep in 5-10 years. Appreciate your ministry and your verbal processing that stumbles upon these deeper issues!
Thank you brother!
On the issue of multiple services, I think it's important to distinguish between multiple services in which an individual or family is only expected to attend one (e.g., 8:00, 9:30, and 11:00 morning services), and multiple services where an individual or family are expected to attend both (e.g., morning and evening services). On the latter, while I don't (yet) agree with my pastor that it's the normative biblical practice as adapted from morning and evening sacrifices, I at least see it as being permissible based on that model. I can accept the former if it's a temporary situation where the congregation are providentially hindered from all meeting together for a time--say the congregation have grown too big for their facility, and you're building or buying (or looking to rent) another building for that purpose. But as a permanent thing, at a minimum, I'd say it's bad practice--doubly so if the services differ significantly from each other.
Very well said. Thanks for the clarification.
I totally agree but would add that if there are so many people that they can’t fit into one service due to the facility size, it might be time to plant another church, if there are elders available to do so.
Its sad how most sin that brings people and nations continues to be the same kind that junior highschooler "struggle" with: keeping it in our pants, or not hosting pants parties. We never learn
Was never encouraged by Driscoll as something seemed...off, (unfaithful) to me in the mix even before the revelations.
Joel is different...I think the public confession and repentance is a huge difference. He's firm/strong but not a mercenary.
If I'm not mistaken, In my Christian singles group, 100% of the divorced women have been the ones who filed for divorce. 95% of them are opened to remarriage for some reason.
Well there, so a woman wants a divorce and you automatically jump to the conclusion that it's the woman's fault? I can't even.
Hypergamy unchecked (the sin of women) …. Rich Cooper talks about a statistic that 50% or women already have a plan B when in a marriage
@@rachelparradelong but 75% of men are already on plan d. Get it?
Little do they know that they are actually biblically prohibited from doing so
Let me guess, they’re telling everybody in the group that they were cheated on and abused?
33:29 no Joel we don’t need each other
I made it to the end and I hope people that don’t agree with you would be challenged to search the scriptures the way God has revealed this so clearly.
As a woman this was so enriching and so edifying. Everything you said was spot on and exactly what pastors, and woman need to be thinking with a biblical patriarch worldview in the pulpit and defending Gods word in the roles for woman and men.
And holding woman more accountable to fulfill their God given roles & to uproot men in being masculine the way God designed it🙏🏼
Thank you! God bless.
Why does a man take off his hat to pray?? .... If a woman is not meant to cover her's to pray.
What is your point?
How could I get rid of no fault divorce in America? How could that happen?
Pastors ALL across the land need to start preaching against it until there is enough outrage against it, that it stops.
To get THAT to happen, lay people like us need to wake up our brothers and sisters in Christ to this evil and get their pastors to start addressing it.
Hi Pastor Joel! Yes, please keep preaching - I am one of the 25% that this message about feminism is resonating with. My mother was a feminist and I have always hated feminism - even as a little girl I couldn’t understand it. I have always felt like I didn’t fit in with the world and now I know why. Thank you for your faithful preaching!
Praise God! God bless you Heather. Thanks for taking the time to tell me that and encourage me.
Well leave the world then. Do us all a favor and do that
@@RightResponseMinistries says the man who promotes public murder of women who he believes falsely accuse sexual assault against a man!
Pastor Joel you're doing the Lords work. Don't stop telling the truth
The issue with Gisele and Brady is that Brady didn't want to spend time with his kids. Retired and then unretired after a couple of months. That being said, her rumored relationships after this leave me to question her taste in men (see Antonio Brown and Pete Davidson)
Her taste in men is probably pretty questionable, considering she's literally a witch.
She was getting busy with the jiujitsu coach before she divorced him.
The “you picked your career over me” is a smokescreen.
I’ve dealt with an unfaithful wife, this is what they do. Any reason imagined that “could make sense.” They’ll use it.
What a GROSS misrepresentation of what happened. Tom absolutely loved his kids and wanted to spend time with them. GISELLE gave him an ultimatum, quit your career a few years early or I'm leaving you. She wasn't asking him to stop getting drunk or sleep around, she DEMANDED that he give up his passion or she'd leave.
The ONLY mistake he made was actually obeying her and giving in to her ultimatum. HE did not choose his career over marriage, SHE demanded He give up something good or SHE'D leave.
BTW, she's also a witch. A LITERAL Witch.
The fact that so many conservacucks actually twisted that story to make it look like TOM picked football over the marriage is SICK and shows just how cucked and gynocentric the world has become.
Also, as noted by the other guy, Giselle was getting busy with the KIDS' Jiujitsu instructor. I am sure she never expected Tom to agree to give up the career, so when he did and found out what was REALLY going on, he went back, and shortly thereafter she ends up with the instructor.
This is an excellent conversation. Thank you
On your remark that “you can’t really love women if you are unwilling to call out their sins”, which of course you’re right on (as is the reverse surely) & it got me thinking. If pastors & priests exclusively tailor their sermons to praising all women always, and regardless of their behavior, they are by default depriving & attempting to re-distribute the glory that rightfully belongs to the selfless God-fearing wives, mothers, & women among us. But if all women are deemed righteous, spectacular, & pious, then how could the wonderful Christian women such as your wife, Lori Alexander, & my Titus 2 grandmother ever truly be special? According to their own distorted logic, these women cannot be genuinely unique or admirable, even though these women should absolutely be acknowledged, praised, & celebrated. Like, and are we really to believe that all the women in the pews are all equally as amazing as the Christian women who were martyred for their unwavering faith in Jesus Christ during the fall of Constantinople or the Armenian Jenn-oh-side, ridiculous. I commend you Pastor Joel for calling this nonsense out, it takes a lot of courage. God bless you and your family.
Man. That comment about the fact that the future will consist of more eunuchs than we may have ever in this time period….that’s heavy.
@@RecalledtoLife whatever it is you’re trying to convince me of…it totally worked. 👍🏼👍🏼
In searching for a church home I found that a lot of pastors allowing wives to co-pastor the church with them. I did see this an error, thank you for this affirmation of women’s role in marriage and the church.
Thank you for this brother preacher Joel.
The recent Darrell Brooks case with the female Judge and prosecutor are a perfect example of our weakness. If we have to walk on eggshells to put away a man that drove through a parade then society is trouble.
Deborah rallied the Israelite troops into battle, and was successful.
Yes, to the shame of Barak.
@@RightResponseMinistries A man cannot preach without the woman but a woman needs no man to preach. What power does a man have if he has no life? The woman does for the man something the man cannot do for himself.
@@T-Dog_nation But that logic cuts both ways because women wouldn’t exist without men either. That’s true both in the Creation account because Eve came from Adam, and it’s true in modern day as well since no woman can be conceived without a man.
@@ravikeller9626 Women are the only ones that can give life. No man can give life. Man comes from the woman.
Women are the vessels which God uses to bring life. Either way it doesn't matteras the ability to birth is not a biblical standard for preaching@thomasmills8954
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Good preaching
Based content, thank you Pastor Joel
Women and minority's sin is not just "unchecked" but cheered: our world actively enables and encourages them to sin by saying they are sinned against far greater than they themselves have sinned, which is totally untrue for any of us. Our sin against God is our greatest problem.
Very true.
I kid you not, at our church, not only do they stop the service to HONOR women on Mother's day, but they give SPECIAL Accolades and Honor to SINGLE Mothers! Are you KIDDING ME?!
The CHURCH is literally cheering on and holding SINGLE Mothers in special esteem!
@@cryptojihadi265single mothers are the parent that stayed. You should be giving crap to the father not doing his duty as a parent. But no, always blaming women…
@@laurienoel8392That's quite an assumption you're making. Are you excluding the possibility that some single mothers initiated a divorce from their husband and were awarded primary custody of the children by the courts despite the father trying to gain custody? Or perhaps the woman chose to have sex outside marriage and are a single mother as a result of their own actions?
@@aerofreak64we both know that is not the majority and those weren't the case I was talking about... stop playing devil's avocate, that is immature.
Yep, the 'innocent' party who biblically divorced their spouse is PROHIBITED from remarrying another.
Thank you for speaking Biblical truth. 💯💯💯
Finally! A masculine voice and message that I can share with my masculine 20 yr old son. Thank you, may God keep blessing your efforts.
Anything based on gender norms no longer applies. It was merely cultural. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 so any discrepancies in the Bible are decided by me and anyone that rejects me rejects Jesus and will die with the wicked.
@@elijahmalachi45-6dieker8 hey alright
Dude is literally advocating rape.
Where so these statistics come from?
From the people who make up statistics
"Did God really say..." ......😆😆😆😆😆
From blogs😂
- - Elizabeth. Rachel. Sara. Rebekah. Hannah. Samson's mother. - God blessed all of these women who were initially barren, with children who had great impact.
Maybe God will use those who, because of their choices and the choices of others, to serve him in a special way.
Will there be a recording of the conference available for purchase afterward?
Eventually
Charging for conferences using the gospel is completely against the bible. Anyone collecting money for ministering in any way is now blacked out from the holy Spirit and will be until they either repent and bring the money back or way too late and die with the wicked.
Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.
-- 1 Timothy 5:17
God is bringing biblical manhood back and I’m excited for what’s in store. Thankful for Pastors like you Joel
I did really like your debate commentary of the Jen Wilkins public school debate.
Preach it Pastor!
Take jesus name out of your corrupt mouth you will bow to him! Your life is a short period he WILL BE YOUR JUDGE what an evil twist of his word wow this is evil 😈
I just started listening to your message, but just to let you know there are people who are on fire and really seeking biblical truth but who are on disability and can barely make ends meet or buy food much less spend $100 for a conference.
A big problem at my old church was that I wanted community yet every single thing that they did involved money and it was very offputting and upsetting for me.
Anyway, I like your messages, but just wanted to let you know that this is a reality for some people.
God bless you, brother, and I am grateful for free messages on UA-cam given my financial struggles
Such a great listen! Thank you Joel Webbon!!!
@@JW-tg1nn what is false about it? 🤔
Was speaking with my pastor about the trans movement and the eunuchs of Jesus's time. We need to prepare ourselves to deliver the gospel to these people. It is the only hope they have. There will be alot of them. 1st Romans. As such WERE you. I'll admit it will be difficult for me to not say " you did this to yourself."
Some people simply can't afford it. I am not one of those but I do see their point.
Thank you so much Pastor Joel! I also am one of the 25% of women that listen to your podcast on a regular basis; and I very much hope more and more Christians wake up to this message and what the scriptures actually say about Biblical Patriarchy! I hope you stay encouraged and continue to bring the truth to the not only the church, but the public square! God bless you and your family!
Very kind. Thank you.
God is a woman - if she exists
Much respect to you, Sir.
Thanks for your teaching. From a God-fearing woman in Australia. Please pray for the Uniting Church in Australia, for faithfulness to God's word.
cops dont support you Pastor....i am dissained and despised by cops...#nashuanh please pray for me....they look down on me....
The church needs a confrence on value.
Where are the sermons teaching men of their curse found Genesis 3:
"17Then to Adam He said, “Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’:
“Cursed is the ground for your sake;
In toil you shall eat of it
All the days of your life.
18Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you,
And you shall eat the herb of the field.
19In the sweat of your face you shall eat bread
Till you return to the ground,
For out of it you were taken;
For dust you are,
And to dust you shall return"
Most men (not all men, just as not all women), complain of work. Why? Struggle in work is a consequence of man's sin. It's going to be tough. "Man up" already, men! Just as women have had to "woman up" during birth labor.
27:03 apostle Paul was a misogynist
Women prayed and prophesied in church. I think that meant using their voice!
Hmmm... This means that Tom is available. 🤔
Good job my friend.it is better to please God, than man.
Women CAN preach because they are gifted by God as he gifts some men. Beth Moore can preach circles around you any day. One of the most gifted Biblical teacher preachers of our time. Too bad your insecurities have to try to diminish what God has gifted her. Very sad.
A wrench can be used as a hammer to a certain extent. Doesn’t mean it was made to be a hammer.
Is this a bot?
Question: re physical discipline/spanking children.
I have an 18 month old daughter and another on the way and want a quiver full. My daughter is an absolute blessing and delight but she’s just started getting more disobedient, at what age should spanking be introduced if at all? Thanks and God bless you Joel
I've got 4 kids. At 1 yr I lightly popped the butt and at 2 I would do it harder/multiple times. It's meant to hurt a little. Also I only ever use my hand. If it's a particularly heinous incident I never increase how hard I whoop or the amount of pops, I add to the whooping with timeout or taking toys or TV or whatever. Set clear rules and boundaries. For example if you do this I will spank you for it. And if you do this I will not spank you but put you in timeout but if you go to timeout for the same thing 3 times in a day then it's going to be a spanking every time after that. Also, I talk to my children a lot, usually ill bring up whatever incident they got in trouble for later and talk to them about it, tell them why it was bad, why they shouldn't do it, what the Bible says about it, and what would happen if they were an adult and did it. Also there are things that are wrong that they don't get in trouble for unless they keep doing it after I tell them to stop such as interrupting. If I tell you 3 times to stop interrupting then you'll get a timeout. Just make sure the punishments fit the crime and are consistent.
@@repentorperish1386 thanks so much for the advice that’s really helped. God bless you and yours 🙏🏻👍🏻
@@spreadofthegospelministrie1154 you cannot teach a child that hitting is wrong and then hit your own child and call it discipline. Spanking hitting it's all the same. You really want to cause pain to your children I have a 1year I'm trying to teach her empathy how am I to do that if I hit her she will think it's ok. Plz don't use pain and violence to teach children
There is no Biblical mandate to spank children. The only argument I’ve ever heard worth engaging is the rod verses in proverbs which can be taken apart really easily. It’s not a command. It’s just not. ESP not for girls (in the rod verses, the word for child is na’ar which meant young adult male 🤷🏻♀️)
Discipline means to teach. I highly highly recommend reading Hold on to Your Kids by Gordon Neufeld and learn about child development.
I never spanked any of my kids and they are amazing 🥰. It’s not a necessary thing and it is almost always counter productive/will make everything harder in the long run.
@@repentorperish1386You're all nuts! So, hitting your neighbor is violence. Hitting your spouse is violence. Hitting your co-worker is violence. BUT HITTING YOUR CHILD IS OK?!!!😠 Does your Heavenly Father pop you on your butt when you disobey Him? Is is He a merciful Father? Our children are little humans, who have no knowledge or experience in this life. Our job is to love them, teach them, guide them, be patient with them, and to set a great example. They are not little robots. They SHOULD be curious and ask a ton of questions!
And YES, I have children. 5 children. Oldest one is 21. I know very well what I am talking about.
Prior to feminism the daughters were protected. Protections and Provisions of father till holy matrimony then to husband who Protects and Provides. All women covered.
Only if women are chattel
Reality check 💣
I liked a lot of this episode though I do disagree with the idea that because Ketanji Brown Jackson is a woman that’s why she is soft on CP offenders. I believe it’s because she is an unbeliever, and not just an unbeliever who doesn’t know if there is a God, but an unbeliever who follows the devil and is in complete agreement with whatever agenda the devil wants to being forth onto our societies.
I call my husband my King for this very reason ❤️
I’m not sure that’s why lol
Joel...you are right in spirit on this topic...But I'm afraid that even you aren't aware of how much unbiblical egalitarian assumptions you bring in your own analysis. Go to the 1hour mark in this video. You assume that a woman has the right to divorce her husband if he lies sexually with another woman.
There is nothing in the Bible that supports this.
Jesus tells us a man has the right to put away his wife if she commits adultery. The woman does not have that right
Essentially the mans duties in the marriage covenant are different than the woman's duties in the marriage covenant. JUST LIKE God's duties to His people are different than the duties of the people.
The essential elements of the husband's duties is protection and provision. The essential elements of the wife's duties is sole Fidelity to her one huaband.
This is why a man may divorce his wife for sexual unfaithfulness while the man is free to have more than one woman so long as He provides and protects. See Exodus 20:10.
United States Law actually recognized this fact as late as 1937.
Thats when women got the right to divorce due to "adultery".
Less than 100 years later our culture cannot tell men and women apart.
Joel, you have unwittingly been indoctrinated into unbiblical assumptions. Let the Bible speak for itself instead of imbibing traditions.
When we equate the primary duty of the man and the woman towards one another, we have already begun the slide towards egalitarianism. It starts at the fundamental level.
This is disgusting. Shame on you.
Yes, but what if a married man sleeps with another man's wife? Shouldn't that man and woman be put to death? At least according to the law
@@nerychristian yep
@@anthonyburrell5761What is adultery and can a man commit it?
@@anthonyburrell5761If a man has sex with an unmarried woman does he cause her to sin? Since women are to be virgins before marriage?
I struggle with being quiet and gentle. These teachings I accept as truth and God’s design. Left a church in Georgetown after attending a women’s conference. I do think it would be helpful if more men in the church boldly assumed their assigned roles. Feel like a walking contradiction. Drawn to messages that don’t apologize for patriarchal responsibilities while working towards living what I believe to be true.