I was thinking: I don't need to write my thanks since it probably gets lost in all the business of Proko's life and working on it is probably a better thanks... but you know what, -screams- THANKS, PROKO!
late comment, but for those that are having a hard time drawing or trying to understand that perpective of the bucket I suggest trying to draw a box with the first guide lines that proko used. I just understand that angle that he was drawing after I did that. Then you can draw the bucket inside the box or use the box for reference the perpective when you draw the bucket again.
@@JohnDoe-bm5lp also, in the case of a bucket, the top part (bigger) will be visible from the sides even when looking directly at the bottom part (smaller)
Your drawing tutorials and educational videos have to be among the best I've ever seen. Thank you so much, you have no idea how much I appreciate you and your team!
I was a little sceptic when I first saw the construction drawing, but you went clearly and understandably through the steps. Really well done. Thanks for this video series. It has been really helpful for me this far. :)
I kinda learnt to draw the pelvis from this perspective but now I gotta learn to draw it from different ones.Thank you Proko for your great tutorials!I'll do my best to learn! :)
I know I'm way late to this video but, do you have any tips or tutorials on drawing circles in perspective? I'm having such a hard time trying to get the angles right for the bucket! Anyways, thank you for always doing such an enormous work to help the art community!!!
I know it's late. But here are some tutorials ua-cam.com/video/_8sMkJXoKHA/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Voyresa2Y1c/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/AaZmwHU7vZo/v-deo.html
@@yukihsu3083 Sorry I just saw the notif pop up but WOW! Thank you so much for lending a hand even if it's been some time since I made that comment lol I'll make sure to check those out when I'm available!
I thought the lid and the bottom of the bucket isn't suppose to be a perfect circle (on the previous video). On 1:54 Proko said the lid is a perfectly round bucket. Can someone explain? Am I missing something? Im having a hard time drawing the lid and botton of the bucket
Hi Proko, thank you for uploading the video. I'm still struggling with overall the legs and how to draw them, so they aren't so stiffed. I also have the same problem with the arms, but not as much as the legs. I think, My main issue is drawing from gesture and then to anatomy with the legs and arm. I have no problem with the torso since your video the robo-bean helped me a lot. Anyway thank you for all these videos. You helped me, being a better artist .
I get confused starting around 2:36. The grid Stan draws is a good 30 degrees removed from the major and minor axes of the ellipses. Consequently, my eye rejects it as accurate perspective, even though obviously the final product looks beautiful. I also don't know how to reconcile the fact that we're pretending the bucket is circular on top, when he said in the "Anatomy of the Pelvis" video that it's elliptical. UA-cam comments are probably the wrong place to ask this, but does anyone have any insight on these points?
its not a circle in perspective, its an oval in perspective, its a squished truncated cone. the major axis of the bucket only accounts for lines running down towards the bottom. the minor axis of the ellipse doesnt align with the major axis of the tube part, it is skewed when he sets the angle of the long axis of the ellipse.
this was very educational as always, proko. :) do you have any videos on the glutes/buttox? that might sound like a weird question to some, but these are the muscles I have the most difficulty with from imagination and I've learned the hard way that being a manga artist does not mean I should learn from other manga artists. I need to learn real life anatomy to influence my style, and your videos have been an enormous help so far. you've become one of my favorite youtubers! :D I hope you read this and consider covering the glutes soon, or if you already covered it I'd appreciate the link. I can't find the video anywhere....
shouldn't the back edge of the left ischium be adjacent to the back edge of the right side of the ischium? I can see the back edge of the right ischium is in front of the centre line and the other side is not. Is this a perspective thing? I know there is a pointy section somewhere down there.
great video but although i can see what the bucket is like aproximately, you never mention its proportion. im not some pedant i generally rough things out and draw fast but only because im relying on knowledge like that in the back of my mind. is it safe to assume the wide ellipse to height ratio is 2:1 (say on a female) and the max depth is equal to height?? based on the cranial unit video where the bucket is tilted?
also you didnt mention that the top plane of the sacrum doesnt touch the back plane of the bucket, looks to me its like its almost in the middle between the center of the bucket and the back plane, but more towards the back. btw your videos literally saved my life thank you:)
one of the best video which i have ever seen may somebody present me some lessens like that ???? i could understand prespective by this video thank you proko
Assuming we are using Stans example orientation of the bucket here I do not understand why, if we were to maintain the same orientation, moving the horizon line up or down would affect the "horizontal" line he lays on second after the initial long axis line. Why would that be? We wouldn't be rotating the bucket just simply moving its relation to the horizon line.
The ellipses are in the same shape and the same direction, only the size changes.Their centers are connected into an axis. Their left-to-right and back-to-front straight lines cross each-other at this axis and at their halves(halfs?). Build rectangular plans inside the bucket using these lines. Split the bucket with an ellipse parallelar to the other ellipses(the 'rubber band'). At the top of the bucket, on the back-to-front axis, you will draw two lines parallelar to the left-to-right axis.One is at the back half of the back-to-front, right at the middle. The other one is on the other half but this time at the end of the first third. Focus on this parallelar at the third. It meets the ellipse at marking dots. Link these two dots with 'the rubber band', the middle ellipse of the bucket, following the side of the bucket, as if your pen was slipping against a real bucket. Finally, where the slipping lines meet the rubber band, you created two dots. Link it. If my explaination is not wrong, you should have the bucket and the cut edge. For the rest of the drawing, I should work before trying to explain it. Is this comment helpful? Did I do mistakes?
At the point where I am, I use a few colors to keep track of the most important lines. Mine are pink for all the lines of the cut edge of the bucket, blue for the back plan and red for the iliac crest. I also use letters to know where my marks are, B for back, F for front. Very useful, I recommend it for beginners like me, who can get lost too when having a second look at their drawings.
I was doing the sample practice images, specifically the the second one. I got to the wedge bit, so I was about to start doing the specific forms of the pelvis. For whatever reason, I could not make out what I was seeing, making my sketch appear weird. I don't know how to explain it, but it didn't make "sense" with what I was seeing and what I was drawing. It then hit me; picture of the pelvis was being view from behing. I was drawing the front part where the cocyx was.
I'm honestly not sure I like this method, I've been practicing it a while but it's not sticking. It's more an issue of the ellipse of the bucket, for one trying to draw an ellipse is difficult let alone one with the exact proportions you need and be able to do them in them perspectives, then there's adding the side planes and bottom plane which are also difficult. The method doesn't feel convenient to me nor does it seem to get easier, I find it much easier to simplify it into a rectangle then anything else.
I guess, a bit "closer to reality" is a trapezoid, then rectangle. But actually we need some 3D shape, rectangle and trapezium are 2D. I can't say why, but I prefer some "sharpened forms" for basic construction. So I draw kinda pyramid with flat top (well, flat bottom actually) as simplified pelvis. For me it's easier then "bucket". However, I guess, this method might be worse as this shape is farther from real pelvis.
It sounds like you haven't mastered drawing cylinders yet. It was mentioned in the previous video that it is ideal to practice drawing these cylinders. Just fill pages of your pad with tapered cylinders in various angles until you get comfortable drawing them. Then move on drawing these cylinders with wedges and draw enough of them until you get comfortable again. Then move on how it is drawn in this video. If anything you're just rushing too far ahead with these lessons while mostly disregarding the "practice" aspect of it. Just take it step by step from the most basic 2d shapes into 3d shapes in various angles (perspective) to the basic forms of the body (which where this video is at)
Drawing an ellipse inside a square is easier for me. It adds another step, true, but at this point I need the help. It also helps to know that drawing an "x" inside a rectangle divides it in half. Maybe you know this already. It really helps in estimating where to place features and trains the eye to do it correctly. Kinda tedious, maybe, but I think drawing meticulously and then drawing just by eye is what I need. Might help you, too.
The pelvis is probably the most difficult skeletal mass for me to understand. Not the just the shape and design (I have that down somewhat but still needs tons of work) but, the size and placement as a whole relative to rest of the body. Especially when considering the gender differences. Eventually I'll figure it out I guess. Ow. My head.
Isn't this the method shown by Gottfried Bammes in his book "Wir Zeichnen Den Menschen" (see page 96). Did you come up with it independently, or follow his lead? If the former, it's another case of great minds that think alike.
Oh, god, stop with the jokes already! (...don't!) srsly tho, thank you, Proko. This is going to be very helpful. Even more helpful would be to get that premium membership, eh? nudge-nudge (yes, i did share this video on facebook... figers crossed! toes too!)
Hello! Quick question: when drawing a female pelvis, is the bottom of the bucket wider? Women in general have wider hips already, but some have very very wide hips. In these cases, does the bucket shape become wider on the bottom than the top?
Does anyone understand how "side to side" and "back to front" lines on the top plane are even determined? Can they be in any direction? If you put down the "side to side" line first, is the "back to front" line the same but mirrored over the minor axis of the ellipse? I can't tell how to put these lines down because neither of them are parallel to either of the axes of the ellipse. He just seems to put them down using what, intuition?
isn't ASIS supposed to be on same vertical line with the pubic symphysis in natural Position? and ASIS should be at same horizontal line with PSIS in natural position? thx
This is quite ingenious, but why would you bother? Why not stop with the bucket, and maybe some ovals for the femur sockets? There are certain subcutaneous muscles you ignore, why not ignore the complexity of the pelvis? Why wouldn't a bucket marked with the origin and insertion points of various muscles do just as well?
Depemds on what you want to accomplish. Why tell people they dont need to learn things?? Sure, you can barely see any of the pelvis on the model, but what if you want to accurately represent a skeleton from your imagination? Theres only so much a photo ref can do for you. Its ridiculous to stamp out light in drawing. If someone wants to learn how to draw th pelvis, why not let them?
V Hinatsu I didn't tell anyone any such thing. I asked what the application of this knowledge was, and it was not a skeptical question but an earnestly curious one. That is, I asked not not so as to imply that there is no good answer, but because I suspect there is a good answer I'm not fully aware of.
+Mortimer Fujikawa What if you want a figure with the flesh pealed back or make skeletal pictures. It's great to know surface anatomy along with Osteo-anatomy.
You say that the elipse of a perfectly round bucket is perpendicular to the axis and you draw it that way, but as I understood, this shouldnt be a perfectly round bucket and you draw it differently in the critique video (its also a three quarter view and there the angle of the elipse is between the perpendicular line and line of the iliac crest)- so I dont get that?
1) draw Little vertical cylinder
2) divide it in half
3) and finish drawing a pelvis
Nice one! I use some landmarks quoted in the video and it's enough for a quick sketch!
i dont get it
4:21
easier said than done
draw the rest of the *hoot* pelvis
when you start to draw:
"hands omg it's so difficult"
when you reeeeealy start to draw:
pelvis: "Hi"
you: *WAAAAAAAAAAHH STAY AWAY FROM ME*
# RELATABLEEEEEEE!
XD
I imagined Heath Ledger's joker when he was disguised as a nurse
The truth has been spoken!
lol true
I was thinking: I don't need to write my thanks since it probably gets lost in all the business of Proko's life and working on it is probably a better thanks... but you know what, -screams- THANKS, PROKO!
I'm having the hardest time trying to draw a bucket
+Banri Stel Ikr. It took me two attempts to draw the bucket. The rest was surprisingly easy.
Two? I have a full paper of elipses trying to look paralel to each other failing miserably.
Drawing cilinders, buckets, boxes and spheres are the foundation of any 3d drawing . A Few HUNDRED pages filled with them would not be a waste.
Thanks for the cheering.
I came back to this comment section to write the exact same thing.
late comment, but for those that are having a hard time drawing or trying to understand that perpective of the bucket I suggest trying to draw a box with the first guide lines that proko used.
I just understand that angle that he was drawing after I did that.
Then you can draw the bucket inside the box or use the box for reference the perpective when you draw the bucket again.
good tip
I've never wanted to strangle a bucket so much in my entire life until now
LMAO
I've been in art education for almost 3 years and only now I realize I don't know how to draw a bucket...
There’s a problem there chief
Same 😂.. i've been trying for 3 days and i can't do it right ☹️.. so how did figure it out?
@@atoz1914 learn to draw a square in perspective and draw a circle inside it, sounds simple but takes some time and practice
@@JohnDoe-bm5lp also, in the case of a bucket, the top part (bigger) will be visible from the sides even when looking directly at the bottom part (smaller)
This exercise wrecked my brain. Excuse me while I pick up the pieces.
nice
@@Armonicyila_Live Tapico
for me this is the hardest part of the body to draw and understand. Face is tough, but this is tougher.
hi
Your drawing tutorials and educational videos have to be among the best I've ever seen. Thank you so much, you have no idea how much I appreciate you and your team!
Drawing male AND female pelvis are so different tought.
I like how this one is synthetized tough, very clear ,basic shape rendering, good job.
The pelvis. Harder than hands to draw.
I would not say harder.. but more critical..... if you make the pelvis wrong, then everything will be wrong.
*the assignment link is not working*
thank you so much for the great content
I was a little sceptic when I first saw the construction drawing, but you went clearly and understandably through the steps. Really well done. Thanks for this video series. It has been really helpful for me this far. :)
This bucket has become the bane of my existence
me: wow we are finally start drawing!
proko: PeLvAs pReSiCe pElVaS
LMAO
You know have a simple straight on Front view, Back view, and Profile view would be so helpful in the free assignment images pack.
SaiTurtlesninjaNX IKR?
What IKR?
I know, right?
It’s like school I don’t remember anything from the last class
I think this might be the spot where my learning ends lmaooo I enjoyed the spine/torso lesson a lot but I just can't warp my head around this one
this is tough information. l think I'll have to digest it for a while. good tutorial anyway!
I kinda learnt to draw the pelvis from this perspective but now I gotta learn to draw it from different ones.Thank you Proko for your great tutorials!I'll do my best to learn! :)
1:35 Draw this? Sure, hold my bucket.
2 hours later: How the f do perspective circles work
This video is priceless. Thank you for sharing it for free.
Hey Proko! How do I determine the distance between the rib cage and the pelvis? Thanks in advance.
Covered in the spine video.
Rangga Andika Asril the distance between the spine and ribcage is half a cranial unit-or alternatively, approximatey the size of a curled up fist
I know I'm way late to this video but, do you have any tips or tutorials on drawing circles in perspective? I'm having such a hard time trying to get the angles right for the bucket! Anyways, thank you for always doing such an enormous work to help the art community!!!
For me, it helps if you start with a cube with the perspective you want then put and ellipse on top
@@valeopvaleop That sounds like it could do the trick, thanks for the advice!
@@lu-v I just break apart the pelvis. I first learned the perspective of the tailbone only in different positions, and then I'll add on the rest
I know it's late. But here are some tutorials
ua-cam.com/video/_8sMkJXoKHA/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Voyresa2Y1c/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/AaZmwHU7vZo/v-deo.html
@@yukihsu3083 Sorry I just saw the notif pop up but WOW! Thank you so much for lending a hand even if it's been some time since I made that comment lol I'll make sure to check those out when I'm available!
I had such a hard time with the bucket, was so happy and proud when I finally managed to draw it well and then I saw the rest of the video...... 😭
I thought the lid and the bottom of the bucket isn't suppose to be a perfect circle (on the previous video). On 1:54 Proko said the lid is a perfectly round bucket. Can someone explain? Am I missing something? Im having a hard time drawing the lid and botton of the bucket
Hi Proko, thank you for uploading the video. I'm still struggling with overall the legs and how to draw them, so they aren't so stiffed.
I also have the same problem with the arms, but not as much as the legs.
I think, My main issue is drawing from gesture and then to anatomy with the legs and arm.
I have no problem with the torso since your video the robo-bean helped me a lot.
Anyway thank you for all these videos.
You helped me, being a better artist .
Really cool to draw it from the mind !!!!
Where can we find the assignments pictures now that the website changed ? The link in the bio is no longer valid :(
You're the Man Stan!
After trying to draw the pelvis like this i learned how to draw hands like a boss
Thanks for the free video lessons Proko!
Cool!! Wish I could pay for the premium course :(
hi hows ur progress
Anybody know where I can get the assignments?
so do we squish the cylinder or not? he says ignore it here but then does it in the critique video?
Proko You are awesome man! The best. Thanks!
Super Like! Great job once again Stan!
I get confused starting around 2:36. The grid Stan draws is a good 30 degrees removed from the major and minor axes of the ellipses. Consequently, my eye rejects it as accurate perspective, even though obviously the final product looks beautiful. I also don't know how to reconcile the fact that we're pretending the bucket is circular on top, when he said in the "Anatomy of the Pelvis" video that it's elliptical. UA-cam comments are probably the wrong place to ask this, but does anyone have any insight on these points?
its not a circle in perspective, its an oval in perspective, its a squished truncated cone. the major axis of the bucket only accounts for lines running down towards the bottom. the minor axis of the ellipse doesnt align with the major axis of the tube part, it is skewed when he sets the angle of the long axis of the ellipse.
But what is the standard height of the bucket when seen from the front or from the sides?
this was very educational as always, proko. :) do you have any videos on the glutes/buttox? that might sound like a weird question to some, but these are the muscles I have the most difficulty with from imagination and I've learned the hard way that being a manga artist does not mean I should learn from other manga artists. I need to learn real life anatomy to influence my style, and your videos have been an enormous help so far. you've become one of my favorite youtubers! :D I hope you read this and consider covering the glutes soon, or if you already covered it I'd appreciate the link. I can't find the video anywhere....
I'll be covering this when I'm done with the arms course.
Proko great! :D thanks so much
Damn this took me 4 hrs but it was definitely worth it
I find it most complicated setting this ellipsoid bucket into correct perspective (long axis and right angle). Any hints for that?
shouldn't the back edge of the left ischium be adjacent to the back edge of the right side of the ischium? I can see the back edge of the right ischium is in front of the centre line and the other side is not. Is this a perspective thing? I know there is a pointy section somewhere down there.
seems easy, gonna follow this tutorial tomorrow
can't even draw a bucket but okay
Just draw a pelvis and work your way back
@@MrBazzuu wtf
Self check in - 1.5 weeks strong!
I am reading the comments and think I am the only one who can draw a bucket but get confuses to add the details in any angle 😞
Liked and shared on facebook and I have been subscribed for a while already. Hope that counts!
took me forever but I finally got it :)
Thank you so much!!!! Youre a lifesaver
Uhmm... just asking what if the pov is front view of pelvis... i don't know how to construct it🥺
I love you :0
Leonardo666ism I love you too
Samuel Yang i don't get why that would help in gaining control the only way to do that is actually practicing how to make lines.....common sense dude
Sorry man if i sounded rude but dont worry your right we are all here to learn from each other
@@ytp1210 are you still alive?
great lesson, thank you
the back view should be given more emphasis..
I completely agree... but at the same time he needs to earn dat bank ass money yo. He reveals everything here there's no reason to pay for membership.
great video but although i can see what the bucket is like aproximately, you never mention its proportion. im not some pedant i generally rough things out and draw fast but only because im relying on knowledge like that in the back of my mind.
is it safe to assume the wide ellipse to height ratio is 2:1 (say on a female) and the max depth is equal to height?? based on the cranial unit video where the bucket is tilted?
also you didnt mention that the top plane of the sacrum doesnt touch the back plane of the bucket, looks to me its like its almost in the middle between the center of the bucket and the back plane, but more towards the back. btw your videos literally saved my life thank you:)
one of the best video which i have ever seen
may somebody present me some lessens like that ????
i could understand prespective by this video
thank you proko
Thank you Proko I greatly appreciate it
Hi! Looks like the link for the assignment images is broken!
really amazing!
thank you
Assuming we are using Stans example orientation of the bucket here I do not understand why, if we were to maintain the same orientation, moving the horizon line up or down would affect the "horizontal" line he lays on second after the initial long axis line. Why would that be? We wouldn't be rotating the bucket just simply moving its relation to the horizon line.
Seriously this is like the TOUGHEST part of the human body to draw even in a simplified way!!!!
when tough stuff like this is whats left in order to progress in art, thats where practice and dedication come in!
The ellipses are in the same shape and the same direction, only the size changes.Their centers are connected into an axis. Their left-to-right and back-to-front straight lines cross each-other at this axis and at their halves(halfs?). Build rectangular plans inside the bucket using these lines. Split the bucket with an ellipse parallelar to the other ellipses(the 'rubber band').
At the top of the bucket, on the back-to-front axis, you will draw two lines parallelar to the left-to-right axis.One is at the back half of the back-to-front, right at the middle. The other one is on the other half but this time at the end of the first third.
Focus on this parallelar at the third. It meets the ellipse at marking dots. Link these two dots with 'the rubber band', the middle ellipse of the bucket, following the side of the bucket, as if your pen was slipping against a real bucket. Finally, where the slipping lines meet the rubber band, you created two dots. Link it.
If my explaination is not wrong, you should have the bucket and the cut edge.
For the rest of the drawing, I should work before trying to explain it.
Is this comment helpful? Did I do mistakes?
At the point where I am, I use a few colors to keep track of the most important lines. Mine are pink for all the lines of the cut edge of the bucket, blue for the back plan and red for the iliac crest. I also use letters to know where my marks are, B for back, F for front. Very useful, I recommend it for beginners like me, who can get lost too when having a second look at their drawings.
Late, but thanks for this comment!!
after carefully watching this video I felt something was missing oh yeh i forgot to understand!!!!!
I was doing the sample practice images, specifically the the second one. I got to the wedge bit, so I was about to start doing the specific forms of the pelvis. For whatever reason, I could not make out what I was seeing, making my sketch appear weird. I don't know how to explain it, but it didn't make "sense" with what I was seeing and what I was drawing. It then hit me; picture of the pelvis was being view from behing. I was drawing the front part where the cocyx was.
I'm honestly not sure I like this method, I've been practicing it a while but it's not sticking.
It's more an issue of the ellipse of the bucket, for one trying to draw an ellipse is difficult let alone one with the exact proportions you need and be able to do them in them perspectives, then there's adding the side planes and bottom plane which are also difficult.
The method doesn't feel convenient to me nor does it seem to get easier, I find it much easier to simplify it into a rectangle then anything else.
I guess, a bit "closer to reality" is a trapezoid, then rectangle.
But actually we need some 3D shape, rectangle and trapezium are 2D.
I can't say why, but I prefer some "sharpened forms" for basic construction. So I draw kinda pyramid with flat top (well, flat bottom actually) as simplified pelvis.
For me it's easier then "bucket". However, I guess, this method might be worse as this shape is farther from real pelvis.
I'd recommend learning some more perspective, before getting to anatomy.
It sounds like you haven't mastered drawing cylinders yet. It was mentioned in the previous video that it is ideal to practice drawing these cylinders. Just fill pages of your pad with tapered cylinders in various angles until you get comfortable drawing them. Then move on drawing these cylinders with wedges and draw enough of them until you get comfortable again. Then move on how it is drawn in this video.
If anything you're just rushing too far ahead with these lessons while mostly disregarding the "practice" aspect of it. Just take it step by step from the most basic 2d shapes into 3d shapes in various angles (perspective) to the basic forms of the body (which where this video is at)
Drawing an ellipse inside a square is easier for me. It adds another step, true, but at this point I need the help. It also helps to know that drawing an "x" inside a rectangle divides it in half. Maybe you know this already. It really helps in estimating where to place features and trains the eye to do it correctly. Kinda tedious, maybe, but I think drawing meticulously and then drawing just by eye is what I need. Might help you, too.
My super simplified version of this is just the bucket with the step two completed and the parts where the legs click in located.
What type of pencil is he using? I've seen artist use it a lot for figure drawing. Someone pls reply.
The pelvis is probably the most difficult skeletal mass for me to understand. Not the just the shape and design (I have that down somewhat but still needs tons of work) but, the size and placement as a whole relative to rest of the body. Especially when considering the gender differences. Eventually I'll figure it out I guess. Ow. My head.
Isn't this the method shown by Gottfried Bammes in his book "Wir Zeichnen Den Menschen" (see page 96). Did you come up with it independently, or follow his lead? If the former, it's another case of great minds that think alike.
Oh, god, stop with the jokes already! (...don't!)
srsly tho, thank you, Proko. This is going to be very helpful.
Even more helpful would be to get that premium membership, eh? nudge-nudge
(yes, i did share this video on facebook... figers crossed! toes too!)
what paper are you using for this tutorial?
Michael Vaughan Smooth newsprint.
OH MY GOD!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!
Hello! Quick question: when drawing a female pelvis, is the bottom of the bucket wider?
Women in general have wider hips already, but some have very very wide hips. In these cases, does the bucket shape become wider on the bottom than the top?
I now see why it's anatomy for artists
Does anyone understand how "side to side" and "back to front" lines on the top plane are even determined? Can they be in any direction? If you put down the "side to side" line first, is the "back to front" line the same but mirrored over the minor axis of the ellipse? I can't tell how to put these lines down because neither of them are parallel to either of the axes of the ellipse. He just seems to put them down using what, intuition?
isn't ASIS supposed to be on same vertical line with the pubic symphysis in natural Position? and ASIS should be at same horizontal line with PSIS in natural position? thx
Can you do a video about painting? It's something that I struggle with and a lesson from you would be great ;-)
6:56 I drew with proko
*Breathes heavily
Thank you.
Proko, I dont know if Im the ony one but the link is not working, can you fix it :(? thanks
Fixed! Thanks for pointing that out.
@@ProkoTV thank you :,)
"and here we have a manageable simplified pelvis." Excuse me, manageable?
hello, from Brasil!
it would be good to watch a placement of the muscles on the bones of the pelvis
Is it just me or does the download link not work anymore?
Waaay too complicated for me
Спасибо, ваше объяснение очень помогло
Do you know how hard it is to draw a bucket
This is quite ingenious, but why would you bother?
Why not stop with the bucket, and maybe some ovals for the femur sockets?
There are certain subcutaneous muscles you ignore, why not ignore the complexity of the pelvis?
Why wouldn't a bucket marked with the origin and insertion points of various muscles do just as well?
Depemds on what you want to accomplish. Why tell people they dont need to learn things??
Sure, you can barely see any of the pelvis on the model, but what if you want to accurately represent a skeleton from your imagination? Theres only so much a photo ref can do for you.
Its ridiculous to stamp out light in drawing. If someone wants to learn how to draw th pelvis, why not let them?
V Hinatsu
I didn't tell anyone any such thing. I asked what the application of this knowledge was, and it was not a skeptical question but an earnestly curious one.
That is, I asked not not so as to imply that there is no good answer, but because I suspect there is a good answer I'm not fully aware of.
+Mortimer Fujikawa What if you want a figure with the flesh pealed back or make skeletal pictures. It's great to know surface anatomy along with Osteo-anatomy.
Cylinder and half semi circle, that’s what it looks like to me
drawing the pelvis i just cant get the perspective right. Even after giving it hours.
getting frustrated :(
keep going fam, we learn as we fail
Learn basic shapes first
Drawabox.com
Then perspective by Marshall Vandruff
Too bad I don't have facebook!
O cara explicou em inglês e eu entendi
pelvic is Not Easy Still Not Full Understood!!
this lesson was hard for me because I could never get the shape I wanted so wasted like 5 sheets of paper D:
i put in maybe three hours of drawing, trying to make a pelvis
i still continue to fail
It’s so difficult to get a perfect bucket. I’ve draw hundreds of them and they don’t look like his
Please make a video about hands
i beg you ;_;
Pelvis is more difficult than Skull to draw!
nah
I think it's because you don't see it as often as a skull.
You say that the elipse of a perfectly round bucket is perpendicular to the axis and you draw it that way, but as I understood, this shouldnt be a perfectly round bucket and you draw it differently in the critique video (its also a three quarter view and there the angle of the elipse is between the perpendicular line and line of the iliac crest)- so I dont get that?
*line for the asis points
Every bucket is perfectly round until u don't see it on the top or below view but front view, the perspective changed it
اف that is so hard i need to back for the 1st video in pelvis