What is going on with the ToughBuilt StackTech System???
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My local Lowe's has a small display of this line in a odd ball area. They have a much larger display of Klein tool cases.
I was a demand planner in a manufacturing plant for 20+ years. We called new style orders to all stores "rollout" orders. All rollout orders HAD to ship out 100% complete and on time for exactly the reasons you explained. And at all times, you had to ship new store orders out 100% and on time. Good video.
I'm a fan of ToughBuilt and really want some of those drawers for my truck camper build. My local Lowe's seems to only have shelf space for the rolling toolbox and a few accessories. It's annoying to no end! I used to like Lowe's more than the big orange store, but this debacle is making me rethink my loyalty. I may go for Packout if Lowe's can't get it together.
Who ever came up with the mounts on the corners is a genius.
Flex, they copied them
I really REALLY want ToughBuilt to thrive. I’ve used so much kit in the last 15 years and most of my ToughBuilt stuff has survived the best after heavy use. And sadly, no one else is really designing equipment that’s nearly as clever 😢
Good innovation takes time and cooperation. Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay safe, warm, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Thanks for the update video, I was one of the folks emailing asking for an update. Hopefully, they are able to get stuff straightened out with Lowe's. My local stores have stock of most of the currently released items. I just want the next round of new items to come out, specifically that extra large one drawer box and the mounting plate. I'm tired of having it slide around the back of my vehicle. I know I can strap it down, but then it's more time consuming to get it in and out of the vehicle.
Enjoyed the video and definitely happy you put the right light on the situation. I’m a Toughbuilt user and have most of their items. Have been in constant contact with the company and have to say the customer service is top notch. Lowe’s system has given me nothing but problems, and even tried to get the rolling tool cart for about three months. Emailed back and forth with Toughbuilt and was informed that only two Lowe’s in the entire state of Ohio were stocking the item. The item was continuously out of stock. Finally called one of the stores and was told they had one. Drove an hour and a half, and they had it up on the top shelf on a pallet. Many Lowe’s stores were showing this item as a discontinued item, and were never going to get it. Had to constantly educate Lowe’s on what the product line even was. They even kept trying to push flex products after you signed up for email notifications for back in stock. Cannot wait for them to dump Lowe’s.
Thank you for the update! This system looks amazing and what I have seen of the product line at my local Lowe's looks impressive.
Not going to lie I was supposed how well build the boxes are. Love all the different thing you can buy. I think they are better that the Milwaukee pack out. Love that cold box. Love when the big rolling drose box. They seem less pricey than the Milwaukee pack out. Thank you Red!
I hope you're right, I love my StackTech stuff and feel it's superior to other offerings, especially the drawer boxes. I am concerned that the "Klein coup" has torpedoed Toughbuilt at Lowe's... it's not just StackTech, most of the Toughbuilt items, at least at my stores, is being replaced including the utility knives, hand tools, cliptech pouches, etc... and let's face it, now Lowe's carries Craftsman, Kobalt, Flex, Klein, and Toughbuilt in the modular box systems... maybe TB needs to jump to HD.... I just hope they stick around, the system is fantastic for my work (low voltage service & install) I have on the 4 wheel dolly 2 single drawers, the 3 drawer, 2 low profile full width organizers, the deep organizer, the medium tool box, the work top, plus 2 of the rails for cliptech and the stupidly expensive tumbler...
Indeed. They need to dump Lowes.
Just bought a house and this is the system I just got into. I'm liking it so far and there are some awesome possibilities with them.
It looks like really great products, but they are too expensive. And I agree about Lowes search engine. It's terrible. So is some of their product placement in the store. I wanted an EGO saw chain. Small sizes were with the saws, but larger sizes were some place else in the store. Go figure. I found it by accident. Excellent video, Jeff. And happy Father's day! 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
When one of my USPS customers asked if I had something they were expecting, I told them no, maybe tomorrow. I also told them the USPS had a new motto: "You get what you get when you get it, and if you get it."
Thanks for posting this. I bought a couple of their ammo boxes but inventory is sketchy at my local Lowes and I was wondering what is going on.
Supposedly, they are going to have more retailers coming in the Fall. Hopefully that fixes a lot of these issues. The only problem is that by then, i will probably have already bought a different brand and will no longer be in the market.
Harbor Freight would be wise to buy out Toughbuilt
Wouldn't that be a thing!
wrong quality and price point
Harbor Freight wouldn't do something like that.
harbor freight you listen?
Toughbuilt is too good for them to buy
I have $ specifically saved to buy a bunch of their stuff I really want that is supposed to be available this year or releasing soon, according to their website.
Ready to spend my $ for it if they would ever release it and have it in stock at Lowes. I think Lowes is holding them back or screwing this up somehow.
One of these other tool companies would be very smart to buy them out if they could because this stuff is very well thought out and better than any of the rest out there.
Just dont understand why we cant get it. Messed up. We want it now!!!
Ya lowes is blowing it idk if it's on purpose but whatever the drawers are sold out everywhere. these look great in my garage hope itall works out because i bought allot of them
My local lowes used to carry a shit ton of toughbuilt stuff. Felt like every time I walked in, there were 2-3 new toughbuilt products on display, now I couldn’t even find a set of the toughbuilt sawhorses when I tried to buy a new set last week.
Thank you for this information. I own packout and stacktech, and stacktech drawers are better than the Milwaukee, in my experience and opinion. Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I own lots of Milwaukee stuff and enjoy many of their products. As far as Lowe's is concerned, they have definitely done them dirty, despite my local store having nearly sold out of everything, no restock and they have removed all of their utility knives, blades, and such in favor for a huge Klein display. Thing is Klein, barely has any options on storage systems. My local store has also tucked Flex and Craftsman into a corner. Its a hit or miss depending on which store I go to in our area. I visited one yesterday and they have all the different brands proudly on display ready for purchase.
Consider that Toughbuilt is responsible for their own stock issues? Their miter saw stand has been out of stock everywhere for 3 years. Stacktech has tons of design flaws and impact modularity and customization.
@@mrniusi11 Fair enough for sure, especially since it was their first run and needed feed back to make changes. However, I have noticed several issues with Lowe's and the brands they carry. I just wish the stores and brands could be consistent.
My local Menards has all of their toughbuilt products on clearance. Menards online only deals has more toughbuilt products on clearance. No boxes mainly just tool belts and tool belt accessories, levels, etc.
My local Lowe's has not had hardly any of the toughbuilt items in stock for months plus they've raised the prices on any stock they do have.
I cleaned up on tool pouches through Menards. They gave me 2 for free even
i dumped my Milwaukee for the toughbuilt they in my opinion were better in a lot if ways, due to not being able to get certain things i use my toughbuilt for the house now and was able to get a flex stack pack at a good price so now that is what i use on jobsites but i still like the touggbuilt more. The accessories are better easier to put on and off especially for me the wire rack that TB offers as an attachment is worth it. my only issue was the handle was not wide enough and the wheels were a little small made it hard to go up and down flights of stairs which is very common
LOWES in my area thrown out TOUGHBUILT tools and very little Stack Tech , Skill tools are also being thrown out .
The drawers are my big want for the HFT set. If they had a rolling drawer and the divider drawers it would be perfect for my use.
Sounds like I may have to work on one of the ToughBuilt sets once the rolling drawer is available.
I can't find replacement saw horses since I damaged one of my tough built and when when I emailed they said where working on getting back in stock. Same with toughbuilt work station
My Lowe’s clearance everything thing out and removed the tough built displays, all I really wanted is the toughbuilt hammer 24oz
Lot of things just feel unusual. I remember picking up flex/stack pack.. Then I saw toughbuilt come in, and then Klein mod box. And in chronological order it's like flex was in a freeze - feels like it at least Idk? - then I recall seeing toughbuilt on clearance and also not seeing new items. Needless to say it just feels weird as though at any point any can die off, with exception to Klein because storage is an addition to their products. Flex is only somewhat able to stay afloat by their tools but even then feels like it was hyped and now kind of rare to see in the wild, could just be me though idk
I'm waiting for rigid to come out with a mounting plate so u can attach my boxes to the back of my 4wheeler
My Lowes has plenty of Stack Tech & Stack Pack as well. Neither seem to be selling all that well.
Jeff, love your videos. Can you do one video about work tables?
Specifically about tables that can mount a vise and a grinder?
Are you talking about portable ones like the tough built folding work table or are you talking about more permanent set ups for your shop?
my Lowes has shipping containers and some other "back area" place for new stock. Often it stays there until I go into the store and ask them to check the back and sure enough usually they hunt for me and pull it down so I can buy it. Kind of boggles the mind.
I can’t even consider StackTech until they come out with the Advanced Transporter and I can physically check it out and see if it will work for me.
That’s by far their best shot at getting people into the system… and the dolly cart combo thing… I’ve been willing and trying to buy that for maybe 10+ months. No answer on emails from Toughbuilt Lowe’s has it out of stock everywhere. Same with their gravity rise miter saw stand… even if you want buy it you can’t. It’s foolish. They will lose people like myself who have an entire stack… I’m already looking at rigid drawers and go back to my pro gear 2.0 full time. Might turn Toughbuilt into a range gear hauling system.
Engaging and concise! 😃
@denoftools Jeff, I was stunned today. Just a few minutes ago I saw my first Harbor Freight tv commercial ever. Thanks for the video. Any idea on when the new HF trailers will be released?
Even when they have them in stock they usually have it in boxes or store somewhere on the 3rd row
At my lowes, those fancy utility knives have been marked down to $9.99. The one that flips into a scraper an the one that has the 2 magazines that pop out.
I'd be all over that for 10$
I want Hercules brushless ratchets!
I was able to buy toughbuilt and flex on clearance. I returned my Milwaukee packout and bought better value for the price.
I have been trying to bring myself to start buying into this system, but everything i want is unobtainable or is coming out at another time this year.
My fear is i will buy into it and they will be discontinued.
They should sell this idea to Makita a company with deep pockets who is in need of a decent modular toolbox system....
BTW, thanks for this video. Ive been wondering about this.
Some ToughBuilt stuff (bags and screwdrivers) started showing up at Menards. I wonder if there’s a relationship to be developed there?
I think they've always been on Menards website, right now Menards is clearancing their Toughbuilt gear, i've spent way too much getting fantastic deals on things I probably don't need. 😆
My local 2 Lowe’s stores have a very small display of StackTech. Their clip tech items are mostly gone. Last new item I have found it the car trailer rack attachment. I want to add the cart and maybe the big rolling convertible cart. You have a ton of clip tech pouches. Why not release those StackTech clip tech clips.
They play games with returns as well.
There's a lot to like about StackTech, but it isn't the Packout killer I really wanted.
1) The half-box stack problem is such a basic, fundamental error that it makes you wonder how many folks on the design team actually USE these sorts of boxes.
2) Thinks like the ammo can or a few half boxes get very unsteady. However, the nature of the system is that a 1/2 unit only has 2 locking points, so they act as a pivot. It wobbles and until you can "bridge" the half boxes, there is no way to stabilize it.
3) The lack of an ability to lock the drawers again indicates the design team doesn't actually have a background using these systems.
The system looks great, and it is nice, but the pricing is very premium, and there are still too many errors for a really premium system. Coupled with the financial problems of Toughbuilt? It put a hold on my desire to sell all my packout and move over.
The half box tray is 98% similar to a tray from their large box and they are 0% interchangeable. Why would a company tool out a factory to make trays that are 2% different! stupidity. It's like a different team was responsible for each box and the only requirements were the exterior stack mechanism. It's as big of an oversight as the stack issue.
@@mrniusi11 Agreed. I like their drive, but these details matter when you are going to charge Packout prices.
As someone who’s owned Packout since the beginning Milwaukee also made and continue to make a lot of the same mistakes. Unfortunately all these boxes have pros and cons
Slow roll out. Lowes still only has the base units. Tw the manager and he said he doesn’t know what is going on with tough bilt brought some other items for over 50% off. The metal compact level with the fine dial bought for less than $10 now it’s priced at $34!
they announced weeks ago they are going to have new retailers with the stacktech products soon
sure, outside the US... I really don't understand what made them think to go global, when they don't even have the cash flow needed to meet US demand.
Happy Fathers Day
new Milwaukee has drawers and cupboard style door.
I think the arrival of Klein at Lowe’s really pushed them aside
You think? Other than Sparkys I think most people felt it was overpriced with not enough options.
i think the same, i think there is some exclusivity contract between Lowes and Klein, especially after Home Depot basically 100% dropped Klein
Stacktech is certainly nice but they need to beat the Milwaukee pricing they need to drop at least 10 to 20 dollars on every box because their prices are 5 dollars if not more over packouts pricing which is already way to expensive
Do you know if Menards will have this set? I know they sell ToughBuilt stuff.
Sorry, I have zero contacts at Menards.
@@denoftools I checked their website and it doesn't have any mention of it.
Lowes is trash fo this, I made the employees bring them down from the top becuase they said they didnt have any and I told them they arre all up there and they had all kinds of stuff up there from Toughbuilt
Yeah, Lowe’s has a tendency to lose stuff on that top shelf for some reason. It works great for us when they start to do closeouts because they keep dropping the price till everything sells and stuff can sit up there for months, slowly dropping in price.
Lowes has clearanced out all of the Toughbuilt tools including the scraper/knife which is probably Toughbuilts best product. The only Toughbuilt products left are the Stacktech and a hand saw. No screw drivers, knives, hammers, pull saw, levels, etc. It's weird and makes me worried about Toughbuilt.
The real problem is Klein , Lowe’s stole Klein from Home Depot. Lowe’s already had Flex, Tough System and Craftsman tool storage systems. When they got Klein one had to go and it was Tough System
I would like to see harbor freight jump in and start carrying the toughbuilt line of products.
Their stuff is honestly ok, got really excited when it came out and switched over to it from Packout. Their pieces are just stupid heavy empty and very hard to move around fully loaded with ease. They still haven’t resolved the fact you cannot switch between half sized and full sized boxes anywhere on the stack. And they are honestly overpriced for what they are. They would be a great set if they were more affordable or ran promo deals more often. So far I have seen one good deal and that was at initial launch. Also the locking mechanism starts to have issues after about 6 months of use and becomes unreliable
Actually they came out with a top part for that 1/2 box problem already should be released already as seen videos in it might be a order thing though not in-store.
can you tell me what's going on with their supplies? I haven't been able to get anything. Edit: Crossing fingers
When announced, I thought that Stacktech was so cool that I went and bought some stock in Tougbuilt. Well not long after that, the company reverse split the stock and that can be a really bad sign. Stock is down 75% since i bought. Bird Scooter had a reverse split which lead to a "new" share price of $2.40 per share now down to $0.018 a year later. The reverse split itself isnt a death sentence but it might signal poorly.
Not financial advice, obviously. My single stock picks are probably money better spent on slot machines.
About a year ago they issued a huge stock offering to raise capital. That's the money they used to build out this line of boxes. It's a big gamble but not any bigger than taking on large debt to do the same thing. Their biggest issue is Lowe's screwing up the launch and giving the impression that they are doing poorly. It can become a self fulfilling prophecy .
@@denoftools okay so did you cause that 40% pop today?
@@ekjswim Honestly I might have indirectly. I was talking to a buddy of mine who just finished writing his own day trading bot. He was looking to test it out and then we started talking about toughbuilt. Now I gotta call him and see if this was his doing.
The main and pretty much only reason i wont be buying into stacktech yet is that you cant lock any of the drawers. Why this wasnt included in the design i dont know and am shocked its not a feature when you can lock everything else
They should have jus came out hard and just released the rolling drawer box immediately. Let's be real that would have boosted sales as that's the main thing ppl want. Why release a normal rolling like every1 else? Your new. Make a splash
Yeah, I told them as much.
It's already hard to find Stacktech in stock now, so how would that help if they are already selling out? I wish they did though but only because I want to buy it now instead of later.
Because there are a lot of people, like me, that are sitting on the sidelines waiting to buy. This would have made them but now. I can find this stuff in store or on line to buy enough to make an initial purchase. I am choosing not to buy.
How about on Amazon
Honestly, I feel they should have launched there.
I think probably the biggest issue is the health of Toughbuilt. The company's stock is down 94% in the last year. Lowe's doesn't do very much right, but they may actually be protecting their customers from buying in too heavily until Lowe's has confidence in Toughbuilt's health. No shade on the Stacktech products though - those are so much better looking than Packout (which looks like it was designed during recess detention by an 8-year-old boy with a learning disability😒). Designing a system as great looking as Stacktech all while vultures are circling is truly a feat. I hope they can pull out of this nosedive.
Most don't know how stocks work and what big companies try to do. Big companies will buy stock to get it as low as possible so they can try to buy up the company for pennies on the dollar. Tough built is fighting them by buying back up stock so they can't have a chance to own 50% of the company shares. Stock has stabilized now so think everything is fine as long as they don't want to retire and sell off the company we should be fine.
It's why when I own a company I won't put my company on the stock market. People will pressure you the longer you're off the market, but there is nothing stopping you from not being on the stock market there huge farm companies that have made billions not on the stock market. The game platform steam I believe is also not on the stock market all privately owned.
Once you're on the stock market there will always be a possibility of some big corporate company buying a majority of your shares and stealing the company from under your nose. Having stock is nice for expanding the company but it's also bad when someone badly wants to own it as well.
No to both. TBLT has a long history of tanking stock price and raising more funds with a reverse split. It’s really awful, and it’s the financial mishandling evidence our bear didn’t find. Do not invest.
The Lowes mismanagement in the vid is dead on though
"Mishandling"? It's alternative financing and pretty common. You can either get traditional financing or issue more stock. There is no interest when it comes to stock. You might lose market cap in the short term BUT if you do it right and use that capital to grow the company you will come out golden on the other end. Risk vs Reward. No way to tell what the right play is till all the cards are dealt.
Toughbuilt has been opposing at a loss for years and between the fact that they are basically no longer lowes and just about out at Menards it doesn't look too good for them
@@denoftools Ok, for the record, I was poking fun at Lowe's & Milwaukee; I'm rooting for Toughbuilt. That said, Bear, I think I have to agree with the previous guy that was disagreeing with me 🤔. I've never held Toughbuilt stock, but just perusing what earnings data & news stories Tradingview aggregates, as a novice investor - they do not look healthy to me at all. If you're looking for fodder for a new & slightly offbeat video, though, I'd get a kick out of a bear explaining the bullish case for TBLT 😁🤙
I think someone needs to build a power station as part of their stack. Big enough to power some of their power tools or charge the batteries..
Instead of ICE cooler, make a 12v cooler/freezer.
I was thinking the same thing.
@@denoftools
You have the contacts.
Send them suggestions to whoever will listen. Share the $$$ if you get any. 😉
Lowes also has zero loyalty to a company or a specific product. You get to the end of a contract period they will try to get you to reduce your price or they will swap in another product - quality or even function be damned.
If you can't lock the drawers, there are total waste. Unless they have a fix within the next few months or or so I'm gonna sell mine and go to PACout
There are 3rd party accessories you can buy to lock the drawers.
Agreed…Lowe’s has the worst app and website search interface in the history of the world.
Lowes is a joke. My local store has them tucked into an aisle with their Craftsman toolboxes. At least the Home Depot has all their stuff out front where the customer can see the product.
Toughbuilt has failed to meet SEC filing deadlines and is scheduled to be delisted on NASDAQ. That’s their problem.
Paperwork is their problem?
@@denoftools more like fraud. Failing to report to regulators when you’re a publicly traded company is a big deal.
@@denoftools It isn't the paperwork; they either can't or do not want to report the numbers.
Which means they either have huge accounting problems or big financial issues.
@@denoftools no, are you kidding? Money is their problem. They took a ton of it in the form of investor dollars. Now they’re concealing what’s they have done with it.
Yes! Lowe's is constantly screwing things up! It's as if Lowe's has schizophrenia. It seems like they can't decide on which tool companies they want to pander to and so they try to pander to all of them and just stuff crap everywhere, but their stores are smaller and so it just doesn't work.
I have noticed that my local Menard's (Bowling Green, KY) is starting to carry a lot of ToughBuilt tool bags and accessories. I'm really hoping that after the Lowe's deal is over, Menard's will start to carry StackTech.
They look cool but until they can move production to the USA, I'll stick with my USA made Craftsman Tradestack.
Those are not USA made, they are assembled in the US from "Global Materials".
My local Lowe’s just now got 1 set of the boxes. It is aweful and if packout released a single drawer bottom box the tough built system would completely die. That is what I’m waiting for to see the bottom drawer box and then decide on what system I’m going to invest in.
Did we really need another entry into the rugged modular storage game. We already have: 1) Milwaukee PackOut, 2) DeWalt Tough system, 3) Rigid, 4) Ryobi Link, 5) Husky, 6) Flex, 7) Kobalt 8)Kline, 9) Bauer, and now 10) Toughbuilt.
I would much rather see a competitor to Systainer and L-Boxx besides Tstak.
I totally agree !
Someone needs to build a system that works in size like systainer but is just plain "more durable "
I like building "single tool" kits and not doubling up or piling things on top of one another.
As a one man operation, the last thing I want to do is bring in tools I don't need...
Lowes blocks my VPN, so I don't shop there. Home Depot blocks proton mail. I called HD support, they told me (in a stealthy way) because proton mail won't allow HD to spy on your email. So gmail, yahoo, etc. let HD spy on your email.
How exactly are you claiming they’re spying on your email?
@@denoftools I came to it when HD would not let me create an HD customer account with my new proton email address. I complained. I got up the food chain and their tech support. She told me any email address with a proton domain is banned by HD. I asked why? Proton is one of the most secure/encrypted email providers. She said something to the effect of, "HD isn't allowed the same access of information from proton email addresses, than other email providers". I said, "you mean you can't spy on me?". She said, "Basically, yes". I don't know any other way to spin that. I don't know how you explain banning of email domains either. Email providers are not a security risk to HD. It's all outbound traffic.
@@kristfur Ok, I did some digging on this and it looks like there are fewissues. Proton is not on a lot of whitelist systems because of how new and small it is compared to larger providers and as such it gets blocked by default. Proto has become a hotbed for scammers and fake accounts. And third, they block a lot of the header information. This is not personal information but packet info used to verify the service. HD and many other larger online services have a big issue with fake accounts so they block any untrusted domain. They aren't spying on you so much as seeing where the packet is from. If personal security is an issue for you i'd find someone other than Proton, they seem to have a track record of giving out info the government anytime they ask.
I've tried toughbuilt.....not a fan. To many mechanisms and things break. Keep it simple
What "mechanisms"? They have a latch to connect boxes and the clasp to open the box. What am I missing?
No where near taking out pack out … the latches freeze up in subzero temps .. the pricing is literally 10
Dollar difference between packout …. And they haven’t even been out long enough for durability … the drawer system sucks you loose useable space thanks to the latch
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