if the air temperature is reasonable or you cant use a bucket (indoors and you cant make a mess) you can make a subcooler from a condensor you pulled from a old reach in cooler for example, something in the 15" size works great and with the fan already on there you can subcool a LOT of volume with just air. i doubt it will work perfectly on a roof in phoenix during summer but for most places with more humane temperatures it should work well. i prefer air over icewater when having to do big recoveries as you dont have to replenish the ice
Absolutely. A friend used one of those refregeration condensed and just mounted it to the back of his Appion G5 twin. He uses the air from the recovery machine to blow over it and it works great. He has it hard piped from the out to the unit to the condenser and a manual valve. It works great
@@love2hvac i did something simmilar. i made a box that holds the recovery machine and a big coil under it with a fan and with a short 1ft hose to the tank so i can stand it on top of the recovery tank. i could also weigh the whole lot in that manner and watch the tank fill. after recovery i just let it sit for a couple minutes for the fluid to drain (do mind the coil design so it can free flow down) and only have vapour left. that bit of vapour is not worth the effort to recover generally when dealing with decent volumes you find on rooftops, let alone chillers. and waiting for the coil to drain is not a problem as you have plenty of other stuff to do. the carrying box also protected the machine as they live pretty rough lives in the backs of our vans.
We have a small recycling company and recover from refrigerators and air conditioners. We currently have 5 G5 Twins. What is the ideal setup for fast recovery for high volume? Especially larger older R22 air conditioners. Or is there a better machine to use? Thanks , great video.
What if you are using a Fieldpiece Recovery Machine with self purge function? Wouldn’t this do the job of purging out refrigerant trapped inside subcooler transformer?
Your teaching iss the best to me but I ave a ? I have a mini split unit that was working pretty well, what I notice is the unit not turning on, an the unit receiving 220 voltage fuse on the circuit board good is there any advice u can give me about what could of cause it
So manu things it could be Most likely electrical. I have not started the electrical or the ductless/mini split sections yet. Ac service tech LLC has some great videos on them that are already up and running. I would recommend checking out his videos. I am far behind form getting there. Thank you for the support and I'm glad you enjoy the videos.
Do you have a place I can send you a video of refrigerant boiling out of the oil. I took it to show some guy I work with to show them the importance of the recovery and how much refrigerant can be trapped in the oil.
Ok So how do you get the liquid out of the sub cooler and into the tank. I run that reclaimer and I crack intake hose to reclaimer and introduce atmosphere. Is that the correct procedure?
i only have one core remover, could i just remove one of the cores and leave the other in? would it speed the recovery process up a bit? if so should i remove suction or discharge?
@love2hvac can you use support molecular transformer I On suction side of the recovery tank in ice water ? Or use it on discharge side of the recovery tank and use a purge option on field piece recovery unit ?
Or you could be open to learning something new. If you took the time you would see I have shown several ways of doing recovery not just this one. Have you even tried flipping the tank yourself, have you tried searching "flip the recovery tank" to see if if articles like the HVAC school, ACHR news, or even manufactured like Appion, Feildpice and more, have training for this practice. People spend 10% of their lives learning and 90% defending what they think they know. Try being on the learning side. When people pay for my class they are open to learn and taking in all this valuable information. When I spend my own time and money to make the training available for free, people want to rush to tell you how THEY do it or how it's different that Cletus taught them 20 years ago. I don't care how you do it. If you want to learn, stay and watch the entire series. If you want to argue and show off the only ways you know then go elsewhere or start your own channel but I don't have time for it. Good day
@@Gary-ts6dh well I make $96.42 an hour, time and half after 8 hours, double time Sundays and holidays, and I get a raise every June...so maybe you're right 😂 #SMART66
Thx so much. This gentleman is a true asset to the HVAC students
Thankfully for this tuition Mr.Ty it’s very important to use this method to increase the process faster.🌷
This is cool information. Definitely not practical for residential but I can see it saving a lot of time in larger commercial systems.
if the air temperature is reasonable or you cant use a bucket (indoors and you cant make a mess) you can make a subcooler from a condensor you pulled from a old reach in cooler for example, something in the 15" size works great and with the fan already on there you can subcool a LOT of volume with just air. i doubt it will work perfectly on a roof in phoenix during summer but for most places with more humane temperatures it should work well. i prefer air over icewater when having to do big recoveries as you dont have to replenish the ice
Absolutely. A friend used one of those refregeration condensed and just mounted it to the back of his Appion G5 twin. He uses the air from the recovery machine to blow over it and it works great. He has it hard piped from the out to the unit to the condenser and a manual valve.
It works great
@@love2hvac i did something simmilar. i made a box that holds the recovery machine and a big coil under it with a fan and with a short 1ft hose to the tank so i can stand it on top of the recovery tank. i could also weigh the whole lot in that manner and watch the tank fill. after recovery i just let it sit for a couple minutes for the fluid to drain (do mind the coil design so it can free flow down) and only have vapour left. that bit of vapour is not worth the effort to recover generally when dealing with decent volumes you find on rooftops, let alone chillers. and waiting for the coil to drain is not a problem as you have plenty of other stuff to do. the carrying box also protected the machine as they live pretty rough lives in the backs of our vans.
This I gotta see.
We have a small recycling company and recover from refrigerators and air conditioners. We currently have 5 G5 Twins. What is the ideal setup for fast recovery for high volume? Especially larger older R22 air conditioners. Or is there a better machine to use? Thanks , great video.
The G5 twin is the fastest thing I know of. It's what I use.
Could you run the condenser fan motor to heat up the coil and compressor?
Hi Ty!
When using transformer method still need to cool recovery tank? Thank you.🌷
The transformative (subcooled) is doing the cooling of the tank for us
If i cool the refridgerant too much won't that give me a false pressure?
The molecular transformer is nice but it holds an insane amout of refrigerant that gets trapped
Agreed, the down side is having to re set up just to pull the ref out of it by itself.
Nailed it!
Couldn't the recovery machine purge it out?
The issue is it's hooked up to the discharge side of the recovery. You need to valve off and switch it around to clear out the gas
What if you are using a Fieldpiece Recovery Machine with self purge function? Wouldn’t this do the job of purging out refrigerant trapped inside subcooler transformer?
Your teaching iss the best to me but I ave a ? I have a mini split unit that was working pretty well, what I notice is the unit not turning on, an the unit receiving 220 voltage fuse on the circuit board good is there any advice u can give me about what could of cause it
So manu things it could be
Most likely electrical. I have not started the electrical or the ductless/mini split sections yet.
Ac service tech LLC has some great videos on them that are already up and running. I would recommend checking out his videos. I am far behind form getting there. Thank you for the support and I'm glad you enjoy the videos.
Ty in winter and below 30 F degree is this method need it in summer yes will make the process very fast? Thankyou. 🌹please the sound is so low.🌴
Do you have a place I can send you a video of refrigerant boiling out of the oil. I took it to show some guy I work with to show them the importance of the recovery and how much refrigerant can be trapped in the oil.
Send me an email Ty@love2hvac.com
Send me an email
Ty @ love2hvac . Com
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Liquid in vapor port when you put tank in bucket?
Yes, this way you don't have the restriction of the straw of the liquid side.
Ok So how do you get the liquid out of the sub cooler and into the tank. I run that reclaimer and I crack intake hose to reclaimer and introduce atmosphere. Is that the correct procedure?
i only have one core remover, could i just remove one of the cores and leave the other in? would it speed the recovery process up a bit? if so should i remove suction or discharge?
Good video. It’s hard to hear though.
Thank you for the feedback. I was trying some new recommendations on sound. This feedback helps me a lot. Thanks!
Why not drop the refrigerant into recovery tank through gas port?
Because this way is faster and keeps the tank cooler.
@love2hvac can you use support molecular transformer I
On suction side of the recovery tank in ice water ? Or use it on discharge side of the recovery tank and use a purge option on field piece recovery unit ?
Or you could be open to learning something new.
If you took the time you would see I have shown several ways of doing recovery not just this one.
Have you even tried flipping the tank yourself, have you tried searching "flip the recovery tank" to see if if articles like the HVAC school, ACHR news, or even manufactured like Appion, Feildpice and more, have training for this practice.
People spend 10% of their lives learning and 90% defending what they think they know.
Try being on the learning side.
When people pay for my class they are open to learn and taking in all this valuable information. When I spend my own time and money to make the training available for free, people want to rush to tell you how THEY do it or how it's different that Cletus taught them 20 years ago.
I don't care how you do it.
If you want to learn, stay and watch the entire series. If you want to argue and show off the only ways you know then go elsewhere or start your own channel but I don't have time for it.
Good day
@love2hvac no I think you are the best Sir. I just had a question but I sounded just dumb.
🍺🥃🙂👍🏻
You keep saying saving me time, but I get paid by the hour 😂
Maybe you'd get paid more per hour if you had the mindset of saving your company money.
@@Gary-ts6dh well I make $96.42 an hour, time and half after 8 hours, double time Sundays and holidays, and I get a raise every June...so maybe you're right 😂 #SMART66
This ice water seems like some theoretical fastest thing but seems not worth it in the real world
Yet it's used every day
You can just turn the heat on and then you skyrocket the entire process 😂