Another important tip for getting a lot more CS is that he didn't kill side lane towers once the plates were down for a while. That allows the minion waves to bounce way faster even if the enemy doesn't collect it. It also makes them lose a ton of minions to towers unless their solo laners camp under those towers taking pressure off the rest of the map.
Felt that at 09:50 when he talks about early game runes. Switched from perma picking lethal tempo to hail of blades on azir. Makes a big difference in low elo. Ppl get messed up rly quick with Hail.
There's some new Chovy Akali videos he plays really aggressivr VS Azir and doesn't minimize with fleet. For some reason he also uses Teleport to go back into lane even with the wave pushed in and would bounce
What I found the most interesting was how he abused early game runes to get a better LATE game. You would have thought these were incomparable, but you explained it perfectly. If you can't even survive until late game, there is no point to take them. Does this apply to all of the lanes, or just higher ELO? As Ezreal, I'd want to take Conqueror or First Strike, since they give the MOST damage. However, the issue is that I have to smash BOT Lane without the aid of PTA, meaning it's harder to find early kills. I often find myself getting Conqueror to use late game, rather than smashing early, ensuring I can get to late.
It's definitely hard to say, I'm of the opinion that most of the time early game runes are better. I think there are lanes where you can know you can't get any advantage though (and you're not gonna lose a lot by not taking early game runes) and it's probably better just to play to scale
Do you think he calculated neeko R at min 8:00 so it would come up one second after the 1st cast of his R so he would have time to dodge it instead of getting blasted right after pressing R
As an adc, i end up having to sidelane a lot during midgame bc most midlaners in low elo just refuse to sidelane. I feel like after watching this and seeing how useful teleport can be for getting to fights on time and maintaining farm, I kinda want to try taking tp instead of heal/ghost in order to be more flexible during the midgame. Would this just be throwing? Im pretty new to the game and i dont really understand why heal/ghost/exhaust are the go-to options when tp seems so flexible.
Heal is for 2v2 lane. Exhaust is useful 2v2 but is largely to protect you from divers in team fights. Ghost is probably the best team fighting summoner 'cause ADCs are designed to kill everyone if they can out-maneuver them. Cleanse is also occasionally necessary vs certain supports and junglers. TP is somewhat more common in pro play because there are fewer fights, so taking a summoner for macro makes more sense. I think it's only super common on Ezreal and a couple bot lane mages though. I'd suggest trying out the different summoner options. You might find that you don't get much value out of Heal but you do well with Ghost or Teleport or something. If you're new to the game, there are going to be a lot of ways to win lane besides optimizing your summoners, so don't worry too much about what's meta and what's not.
As the other comments said TP just isn't as required for ADCs as it becomes a pretty dead spell in mid game (since most of the time you will just be farming mid waves or jungle camps) and for early game the extra combat summoner makes a big difference. Bot lane has a lot more all ins and less poking as well so TP isn't as valuable for that reason too. There are some lanes where ADCs take TP (like against double poke for e.g. Caitlyn Zyra) but even then you might want a combat summ to all in them
It's pretty hard if you both lose your 1v1 and your team is losing the map since you're just not gonna have any way to pressure side lane. Then you just have to try catch waves at tower but there's pretty much no way you're gonna have higher than 8.5~9CSPM in soloq
imo it's not really elo dependent, if you see lots of good roams you can go for them but if there are no good opportunities you should just keep farming. I made videos on roaming/priority usage which could help point you in the right direction
I think it can be good but its harder to play if you rush T2 boots because you don't have the mana to spam W as much so I don't think it's something you can do in every matchup (the ones where you need boots basically)
Could you explain a little bit why he doesn't hit tower. I noticed he pushes waves to tower but never goes up to hit it sometimes even waiting for the next wave to shove under tower again but not hit. Is it too risky or was he constantly needed elsewhere? Can't really understand this :(
@@ShokLeague Yeah after lane phase when he was side laning 17:28 20:49 it just seemed like he wasn't interested in towers not sure if it was too risky because akali is melee or if it was for tempo. At 17:28 fiora shows up after so maybe he had anticipated that not sure. 20:49 really confuses me because he backs teleports top and breaks tower then runs drag instead of staying breaking then tp drag. Not sure if it's a tempo thing.
I think both times he just values getting the base off, first time he has a lot of gold and second time he's low HP. Hitting towers is good but any time you spend on the map unable to pressure (because you have too much gold/not enough HP) it's kinda fake pressure@@IceDaBoi
I dont think mid engage at 25 mins is a mistake. He bought a stopwatch, and look for a fight, he end up dying, but his team cleanup. Perfect cs dont mean shit, if you dont capitalize on your advantage.
Doing this against a Neeko is nuts. Solo killing a neeko even, like christ Chovy is good. That's a crazy late Dark Seal BTW. Also, mostly unrelated, but I can't take any game with BRO Hena in it seriously anymore. Everytime I see the name I think about that time KatEvolved went absolutely mental and just chased this guy around the map for kills going "Broooooo Heeeeenaaaaa" like a psychopath. Apparently this guy inted every game he was on Evolved's team and he just snapped on him lmfao.
I don't see this working out in low elo. I am only scratching emerald right now so whenever I go to a sidelane there is always someone in my team that tries to contest the farm. If you touch a single jungle camp the jungler goes bonkers and starts trolling.
You can ignore camps if you're worried but you still want to find lots of farm. You need to put yourself in a lane where you can get farm on your own, your teammates can't be in every lane at once.
@@ShokLeague I try but after just one wave they come to me and try to group up. If they really don't come they start doing weird actions like exploring the darkest places in the enemy jungle and engage in the most uneven fights without any vision. So even if I am finally allowed to farm it is no use because the enemy team just fed on my team and can farm, setup and push freely. Also I get pinged a lot when they start fights for nothing and lose. It's like waves get cleared faster with the progression of the game so they have more free time to follow their intrusive thoughts.
I know the video is about Chovy's laning. He is doing amazing But can we appreciate 1-6 enemy lee sin on minute 11 and 4-1 bottom adc on Chovy side? I know, you have to focus on your own gameplay, you have to focus on your own improvements But let's be real the game is easier to win, when you have this scores in the game and not the other way around
APA shared an interesting interaction on X today which would have helped Neeko here: If Neeko is in minion form, the Akali Q doesn't trigger the empowered AA. Similarly transforming into a minion after throwing the Neeko Q doesn't trigger D-shield passive and second wind.
we're making it out of emerald with this one boys
*bronze
Lol I'm currently emerald 1 let's do it!
@@zduduu6329 what’s that like?
@@MichaelLee-s7e not too different from bronze lmao
emerald is basically the same as plat tbh, maybe they pay a bit more attention to map@@MichaelLee-s7e
Another important tip for getting a lot more CS is that he didn't kill side lane towers once the plates were down for a while. That allows the minion waves to bounce way faster even if the enemy doesn't collect it. It also makes them lose a ton of minions to towers unless their solo laners camp under those towers taking pressure off the rest of the map.
This is probably the only new thing I learned with this video. Thanks.
Fantastic analysis, I really love your content, it's very helpful. A video on TP is a great idea! Looking forward to it
It’s insane that he gets 10 cs on Akali. This was super helpful thank you.
Felt that at 09:50 when he talks about early game runes. Switched from perma picking lethal tempo to hail of blades on azir. Makes a big difference in low elo. Ppl get messed up rly quick with Hail.
Shok i really enjoy all your videos, I'm excited to see you get to rank 1
We're all gonna make it
This review is a masterclass! Thanks you a lot, sir.
This champ is like 4 years old and even after you mentioning the Neeko matchup I was confused as to why Aphelios and Neeko swapped lanes
Honestly I still get tricked by this at the start of lane too lmao
great vid! i know it prob isnt much but he cleared a shit ton of pink wards this game which each counted for a cs as well
True it all adds up
Great to see another akali video :) keep it up it's very informative
There's some new Chovy Akali videos he plays really aggressivr VS Azir and doesn't minimize with fleet. For some reason he also uses Teleport to go back into lane even with the wave pushed in and would bounce
I was watching Nemesis stream when this happened, Chovy what a chad.
What I found the most interesting was how he abused early game runes to get a better LATE game. You would have thought these were incomparable, but you explained it perfectly. If you can't even survive until late game, there is no point to take them.
Does this apply to all of the lanes, or just higher ELO? As Ezreal, I'd want to take Conqueror or First Strike, since they give the MOST damage. However, the issue is that I have to smash BOT Lane without the aid of PTA, meaning it's harder to find early kills. I often find myself getting Conqueror to use late game, rather than smashing early, ensuring I can get to late.
It's definitely hard to say, I'm of the opinion that most of the time early game runes are better. I think there are lanes where you can know you can't get any advantage though (and you're not gonna lose a lot by not taking early game runes) and it's probably better just to play to scale
amazing video, ive always struggled with cs
great video! helps a lot
Do you think he calculated neeko R at min 8:00 so it would come up one second after the 1st cast of his R so he would have time to dodge it instead of getting blasted right after pressing R
Maybe he thought he was gonna dodge the E and then the R wouldn't be a problem, I'm not sure
would be insane if he did infact calculate it ...those players are no joke@@ShokLeague
As an adc, i end up having to sidelane a lot during midgame bc most midlaners in low elo just refuse to sidelane. I feel like after watching this and seeing how useful teleport can be for getting to fights on time and maintaining farm, I kinda want to try taking tp instead of heal/ghost in order to be more flexible during the midgame. Would this just be throwing? Im pretty new to the game and i dont really understand why heal/ghost/exhaust are the go-to options when tp seems so flexible.
Heal is for 2v2 lane. Exhaust is useful 2v2 but is largely to protect you from divers in team fights. Ghost is probably the best team fighting summoner 'cause ADCs are designed to kill everyone if they can out-maneuver them. Cleanse is also occasionally necessary vs certain supports and junglers.
TP is somewhat more common in pro play because there are fewer fights, so taking a summoner for macro makes more sense. I think it's only super common on Ezreal and a couple bot lane mages though.
I'd suggest trying out the different summoner options. You might find that you don't get much value out of Heal but you do well with Ghost or Teleport or something. If you're new to the game, there are going to be a lot of ways to win lane besides optimizing your summoners, so don't worry too much about what's meta and what's not.
Don't go tp. Adcs needs survivability, tp gives you nothing In fights. Go heal ghost or cleanse always. Unless you are playing ziggs adc or something
As the other comments said TP just isn't as required for ADCs as it becomes a pretty dead spell in mid game (since most of the time you will just be farming mid waves or jungle camps) and for early game the extra combat summoner makes a big difference. Bot lane has a lot more all ins and less poking as well so TP isn't as valuable for that reason too. There are some lanes where ADCs take TP (like against double poke for e.g. Caitlyn Zyra) but even then you might want a combat summ to all in them
Love the chovy content. I think he's the best midlaner in the world right now
How can i click like that. How can i train
I have a mechanics guide which might help you!
@@ShokLeague where do i buy it
Don't need to buy it bro just search mechanics guide it's in my fundamentals playlist@@cupidok2768
@@ShokLeague hope i can find it. I need to get to challenger
Thanks a lot ! Do you know why does he choose Alacrity instead Tenacity ? For csing ? He also always choose Alacrity during Worlds.
Probably is for CSing, imo it's a bit surprising though I feel like the tenacity is very good
any chance you could also make a TOP lane fundamentals playlist?
Not much of a top laner, I'd say check out Coach Chippys or aloisNL
Great video!
How do you keep up high cs if you dont have prio in the sidelane? Can you get ahead just by collecting cs when you can’t really push and preassure?
It's pretty hard if you both lose your 1v1 and your team is losing the map since you're just not gonna have any way to pressure side lane. Then you just have to try catch waves at tower but there's pretty much no way you're gonna have higher than 8.5~9CSPM in soloq
great vid, i'm wondering if (as gold) it wouldn't be better to full roam early and help other lanes as much as possible instead of full farming
imo it's not really elo dependent, if you see lots of good roams you can go for them but if there are no good opportunities you should just keep farming. I made videos on roaming/priority usage which could help point you in the right direction
shok do you have a opnion about the orianna? caps maxed w on worlds
I think it can be good but its harder to play if you rush T2 boots because you don't have the mana to spam W as much so I don't think it's something you can do in every matchup (the ones where you need boots basically)
Could you explain a little bit why he doesn't hit tower. I noticed he pushes waves to tower but never goes up to hit it sometimes even waiting for the next wave to shove under tower again but not hit. Is it too risky or was he constantly needed elsewhere? Can't really understand this :(
In side lane you mean? Give me a timestamp and I'll have a look
@@ShokLeague Yeah after lane phase when he was side laning 17:28 20:49 it just seemed like he wasn't interested in towers not sure if it was too risky because akali is melee or if it was for tempo. At 17:28 fiora shows up after so maybe he had anticipated that not sure. 20:49 really confuses me because he backs teleports top and breaks tower then runs drag instead of staying breaking then tp drag. Not sure if it's a tempo thing.
I think both times he just values getting the base off, first time he has a lot of gold and second time he's low HP. Hitting towers is good but any time you spend on the map unable to pressure (because you have too much gold/not enough HP) it's kinda fake pressure@@IceDaBoi
@@ShokLeague i appreciate the insights 👍
@shok i wanna see ur laning phase u must be a demon
i wish i had a shok for adc
Arrow has good adc videos!
lol i was just watching your old chovy video
27:20 -1
I dont think mid engage at 25 mins is a mistake. He bought a stopwatch, and look for a fight, he end up dying, but his team cleanup. Perfect cs dont mean shit, if you dont capitalize on your advantage.
Doing this against a Neeko is nuts. Solo killing a neeko even, like christ Chovy is good. That's a crazy late Dark Seal BTW.
Also, mostly unrelated, but I can't take any game with BRO Hena in it seriously anymore. Everytime I see the name I think about that time KatEvolved went absolutely mental and just chased this guy around the map for kills going "Broooooo Heeeeenaaaaa" like a psychopath. Apparently this guy inted every game he was on Evolved's team and he just snapped on him lmfao.
lmao I wish I'd seen that
why alacrity on akali and not tenacity?
Probs just wanted easier CSing... Tbh I think tenacity is still better
Nemesis was top lane pantheon btw
I don't see this working out in low elo.
I am only scratching emerald right now so whenever I go to a sidelane there is always someone in my team that tries to contest the farm. If you touch a single jungle camp the jungler goes bonkers and starts trolling.
You can ignore camps if you're worried but you still want to find lots of farm. You need to put yourself in a lane where you can get farm on your own, your teammates can't be in every lane at once.
@@ShokLeague I try but after just one wave they come to me and try to group up. If they really don't come they start doing weird actions like exploring the darkest places in the enemy jungle and engage in the most uneven fights without any vision. So even if I am finally allowed to farm it is no use because the enemy team just fed on my team and can farm, setup and push freely.
Also I get pinged a lot when they start fights for nothing and lose.
It's like waves get cleared faster with the progression of the game so they have more free time to follow their intrusive thoughts.
funny to see how hard nemesis is getting carried in this game
I know the video is about Chovy's laning. He is doing amazing
But can we appreciate 1-6 enemy lee sin on minute 11 and 4-1 bottom adc on Chovy side?
I know, you have to focus on your own gameplay, you have to focus on your own improvements
But let's be real the game is easier to win, when you have this scores in the game and not the other way around
Of course it's way easier to play the game out when ahead, it's just impressive how well he can do so
@6:21 This guy definitely plays Dota2 😂
Most junglers would be pinging me like crazy if I started taking camps.
If you take them when they're on the other side of the map or if it's the enemy junglers camps it should be fine most of the time
That fiora dive was awful bro dam
Fuck I love this content
hey
its impossible to do so game to game, just a clickbait
lmao what
@@ShokLeague well u cant that cs every single game, he is just lucky he can side lane without his team inting 4v4 thats it
Now I really want to play Akali. Sorry for my next 4 mates I'll int.
APA shared an interesting interaction on X today which would have helped Neeko here: If Neeko is in minion form, the Akali Q doesn't trigger the empowered AA. Similarly transforming into a minion after throwing the Neeko Q doesn't trigger D-shield passive and second wind.
I saw that video on twitter! pretty crazy tbh