Beautiful conversation ~ I'm grateful to have found this knowledge that Howdie has passed to us. I don't know that I will ever be able to complete 'the work' involved but I am imagining that I will somehow escape the cruel cycle of the demiurge. I have been waiting all my long life to find something that makes this much sense and I love the comfort that it brings. Divine Sparks Forever!
How very difficult it is to have a discussion of emptiness or NO thing. We each move down such an intricately coiled and confused pathway to awakening. At some point we realize, "It is I who have awakened." Then the question becomes, "Who am I?" or "What has awakened?" We can speak of emptiness or No thing until we are blue in the face but it is something that can only be realized, not solidified in language. It is I who do the thinking and if there is no I then how to achieve realization of emptiness? Experiencers of NDE's are shocked to discover they are still alive, although the body is clearly not. Into the next realm we arrive with all our aversions and attachments intact. This is why we practice, again and again, while still alive, to transcend, as much as possible the constant presence of self identification. There are meditations to assist. The "Lamrim", for example is designed for this purpose. In this interview, it is so helpful to hear Howdie struggle with this idea and now I understand why his latest book was so difficult to write. I will read it at least twice. Thank you for this discussion.
Absolutely amazing chat guys! So much insightful intelligence. I heard.a quote somewhere some years back regarding the Self (capital 's' / manifestation) and it was; "Manifestation is the smoke from the fire" (of Self). It has stayed with me so I value it. Obviously the analogy is our true Self is the 'Fire' and all else is an emanation / reflection of it ... just thought I'd throw that in there as EVEN more food for thought. Brilliant show, much appreciation, all the best!
What Howdie is referring you to can be described as the Dharmakaya level of the transcendental witness. Many spiritual seekers remain connected to what is known as the Nirmanakaya level of witness, which involves the sensing of the fine electronic nature of the senses such as in the nadis, featuring luminosity in extension. Dharmakaya mysticism finds itself wrapped in the Emptiness, or what Zen Buddhism calls the Nothingness. There is considered to be yet another level, called the Svabhavikakaya or Spirit mysticism, which is a Non-dual awareness of the emptiness in form, and the form which is emptiness. This layer allows the seeker to return to the world from the pure emptiness, recognizing the absence of all that had been assumed while seeking, as well as the presence of what has passed away in the seeker following the ‘death’ experience that Dharmakaya mysticism is known for. Before the Nirmanakaya level, which can be reached with psychedelics, where most seekers spend their time, is the Sambhogakaya which is the fullness of natural embodied-ness. Like a good glass of wine or a joint. The struggle today for people lost in the matrix is not just to become loose from it, but to find one’s self-empty-but once again joined to actuality. I appreciate Howdie bringing these teachings, like Dogzen, to the masses when they need it the most. I became aware of these levels and techniques from reading Ken Wilber, especially Up From Eden. This book would make a great companion to Howdie’s book. Thanks again, Howdie! I managed to arrest my addictive personality disorders several years ago by reading this book and struggling with the same kind of personal struggle he is describing.🪬
Thank you Howdie.....for my knowledge gathering, I am looking at: Niels Bohr, John Wheeler, Donald Hoffman and Howdie Mickoski....all good men. I am sucking in information all over from.
“One of the first signs of the beginning of understanding is the wish to die. This life appears unbearable, another unattainable. One is no longer ashamed of wanting to die; one asks to be moved from the old cell, which one hates, to a new one, which one willl only in time come to hate. In this there is also a residue of belief that during the move the master will chance to come along the corridor, look at the prisoner and say: "This man is not to be locked up again, He is to come with me.” ― Franz Kafka, Blue Octavo Notebooks. Did Kafka know?
Confucius last words were, "“Heaven has turned against me. No wise ruler arises, and no one in the Empire wishes to make me his teacher. The hour of my death has come.” Alternatively, "“The great mountain must collapse, the mighty beam must break, and the wise man wither like a plant.” I think this demonstrates even his frustration with trying to fix the matrix. The suffering is a feature, not a bug. Big dumb Universe anyway.
I really don’t have the time or money to join Howdie’s private chats, but I am wondering if others enjoy the group and find there is much more info revealed there, because something is missing for me since he revealed his new book. How did the shift happen that pointed him to the Divine Spark of oneness? It seems he is aligning with A Course in Miracles non-duality content. “Nothing is real, everything is forgiven because it never happened…” Can’t wait for the next interview. You asked great questions, thank you!!
I dont know, the difference with Howdie vs other might be slight but slight can be huge in this kind of topic! I just listened to him on this interview and another today ( that other was a month old on Divine Spark Talks) and i also heard him a long while ago. But these two interviews i listened today really set him apart from other materials and in a way one can begin to comprehend
@@claresage Did the compared videos not seem like a huge leap of faith? I need to know how he bridged the chasm. Have you any perspective of the basis for Howdie’s change of heart from a life devoted to escaping the simulation to one devoted more to Christ-consciousness here on Earth?
@@TalkJunkies I hope you can have him on again soon! You’re a great interviewer and there’s so much more to know about his understanding of the world now vs. when he wrote about “The Cave.” Perhaps he feels we have to master a life on Earth before exiting??
Howdie presents an interesting perspective. It makes some sense. I saw prognosis for the national Debt of the USA for coming years, it’s shocking it grows from year to year , nothing won’t be fixed, I seem to get it.
The fiat will never lose its value, you just don't understand it's source. It's actual sour e is the spark, through all of the actors with it signing things.
Problem is you're trying to fight the matrix as an individual - of course it's going to overpower you. First - you don't need to fight. Second you get to know/feel your spark and start moving where it leads you. Third you do not need to die to escape - you transmute it and get free as you are still here. That's it.
Thanks!! I had been on the Trump train but jumped off a year ago then headed down the woowoo path but nothing ever really resonated with me. Found Howdie and Tony Sayers. I definitely feel there findings do make sense to me. Im still really pissed off about the whole thing. I would like to know your thoughts about the possibility of a reset coming soon. Howdie mentioned the military population count reflected in the Deagel Report for 2025 for the population of the United States. Thanks ❤
Howdie thinks its very soon. By end of 2025 many places will see great decline in population but even much worse by 2030. We arent here to reset. We're here to exit!
It all depends on each Individuals situation. A Rich Beautiful Girl is told the world is hers and its True. A poor disabled child is told Life will be Hard and its True. I dont know if God/Devil plays favorites but each one of us experience a different version of the Matrix, but i would say the majority of us thinks it sucks, we will never be famous, experience the Love of our Life without Grief and Loss, Travel the World and live Mansions but some people will, and those people will really Love Life and we wont see things eye to eye with them.
Yes, I've had a similar thought , about who gets what each time round, if the demierge is feeding on our fears. Most of my expansions of conciousness have come through suffering. Thought I had all the spiritual answers through karmic laws..
I would say yes, only if you want to see how Howdie’s position has dramatically shifted positions. It makes me realize that he has entered another simulacrum during his process.
@@howdoesitgetbetterPlease explain, because I thought the same. ACIM states that we have to give up the illusions of this world to obtain the peace of Heaven.
@@Aetherfield ACIM's core principle revolves around the idea that love is the only reality. ACIM teaches that only love is real and eternal, as it reflects the nature of God >>> what God? Satan? Lucifer?
@@Aetherfield According to ACIM, God is the Creator of the eternal and perfect spiritual realm, which includes our true selves (referred to as the Son of God or Christ in ACIM). @Aetherfield do you see? ACIM is referring (knowingly and unknowingly) whom? Son of God or Christ? Lucifer? Satan? The Holy Spirit in ACIM serves as the communication link between God and humanity. It is the Voice for God, guiding individuals back to truth and love. Voice for God? Voice of Satan?
@@howdoesitgetbetter From Chat GPT: “In A Course in Miracles (ACIM), the concept of the "ego" is central to understanding the nature of the world and how to transcend it. ACIM doesn’t explicitly use the term “demiurge” as it is understood in some Gnostic traditions, but it offers a similar framework that describes the world as an illusion created by the ego - a false sense of self and separation from God. The "demiurge" concept in ACIM could be interpreted as the ego's false creation of a world of separation, which can only be transcended through the mind's shift from fear to love.” To me, that sounds like where Howdie is resonating. It sounds like he believes that staying in his lane of love and helping helping others, will set him free…
Can someone please explain the sleeping beauty reference? Why can she not wake herself and escape without Prince (divine spark?) Who or what put her to sleep, and where is free will?
In the story, she was put into a coma by the evil witch. As a corollary, the true part of "you" which projects this false reality was put into coma by the Demiurge. "You" have to wake her up by having dignity and something awesome to create the desire of her to wake up.
@@franknberry333 I don't read fiction, but Howdie does, and he said that the old testament was a mix and match of words from the first true creation and the second false one.
Howdy Micoski there are places in this reality where it's total peace and total love we are the mighty humans we have to come together to defeat the global cabal and as some say the demiurge service to others before Self is key that's how we defeat the evil forever this I truly believe
No you aren't, just be open. True knowing only happens from inner revelation. And that will always happen when you are ready. Start with Howdie's first book, Exit the Cave.
Sometimes we need to give ourselves time to digest the new concepts bit-by-bit. We don’t always transform in one fast swoop- especially if you’re a control freak.
You disrespect your guests when you don't bother to read their names. There is no COW in Mick OS ky. Is the rest of your interview going to be as careless?
You can't be bothered to actually READ your guest's name. It has no COW in it. Mick OS ky. Shows desrespect for others when you don't LOOK at their name.
Howdie is so profound and wise , what a delightful conversation. Thanks ❤️❤️
Thank you!!! My Divine Spark has awakened and says "hurry up, this game is about to end".
It's not awakened because you're still here dude you're still in it
Thank you, guys, for this great conversation. I loved the metaphors.
Looking forward to reading your book, Howdie.
I’m watching this for a second time today! Love these conversations
Beautiful conversation ~ I'm grateful to have found this knowledge that Howdie has passed to us. I don't know that I will ever be able to complete 'the work' involved but I am imagining that I will somehow escape the cruel cycle of the demiurge. I have been waiting all my long life to find something that makes this much sense and I love the comfort that it brings. Divine Sparks Forever!
@ASparkPrimer
Thank you to the host for not interrupting Howdie and just letting him talk, he has a lot to say and it's all valuable and worth listening to ❤
Can't get enough of Howdie Mickoski wisdom. Thank you, and thank you for being a great host.
Cheers. Thank you
Intersting as always Howdie...!!!❤️🙏
Great interview, really good to hear Howdie give the positive side of the story more now.
Thank you gentlemen!
Deep and Profound.❤👍
Thank you so much great podcast with Howdie Mikoski 👍,,, looking again more podcast with Howdie Mikoski 👍
Jeffmara channel. New interview.
Or Divine Spark Talks channel. Howie interview one month ago
How very difficult it is to have a discussion of emptiness or NO thing. We each move down such an intricately coiled and confused pathway to awakening. At some point we realize, "It is I who have awakened." Then the question becomes, "Who am I?" or "What has awakened?" We can speak of emptiness or No thing until we are blue in the face but it is something that can only be realized, not solidified in language. It is I who do the thinking and if there is no I then how to achieve realization of emptiness?
Experiencers of NDE's are shocked to discover they are still alive, although the body is clearly not. Into the next realm we arrive with all our aversions and attachments intact. This is why we practice, again and again, while still alive, to transcend, as much as possible the constant presence of self identification. There are meditations to assist. The "Lamrim", for example is designed for this purpose.
In this interview, it is so helpful to hear Howdie struggle with this idea and now I understand why his latest book was so difficult to write. I will read it at least twice. Thank you for this discussion.
Absolutely amazing chat guys!
So much insightful intelligence.
I heard.a quote somewhere some years back regarding the Self (capital 's' / manifestation) and it was; "Manifestation is the smoke from the fire" (of Self).
It has stayed with me so I value it. Obviously the analogy is our true Self is the 'Fire' and all else is an emanation / reflection of it ... just thought I'd throw that in there as EVEN more food for thought.
Brilliant show, much appreciation, all the best!
Thanks for the kind words! Cheers
What Howdie is referring you to can be described as the Dharmakaya level of the transcendental witness. Many spiritual seekers remain connected to what is known as the Nirmanakaya level of witness, which involves the sensing of the fine electronic nature of the senses such as in the nadis, featuring luminosity in extension. Dharmakaya mysticism finds itself wrapped in the Emptiness, or what Zen Buddhism calls the Nothingness. There is considered to be yet another level, called the Svabhavikakaya or Spirit mysticism, which is a Non-dual awareness of the emptiness in form, and the form which is emptiness. This layer allows the seeker to return to the world from the pure emptiness, recognizing the absence of all that had been assumed while seeking, as well as the presence of what has passed away in the seeker following the ‘death’ experience that Dharmakaya mysticism is known for. Before the Nirmanakaya level, which can be reached with psychedelics, where most seekers spend their time, is the Sambhogakaya which is the fullness of natural embodied-ness. Like a good glass of wine or a joint. The struggle today for people lost in the matrix is not just to become loose from it, but to find one’s self-empty-but once again joined to actuality. I appreciate Howdie bringing these teachings, like Dogzen, to the masses when they need it the most. I became aware of these levels and techniques from reading Ken Wilber, especially Up From Eden. This book would make a great companion to Howdie’s book. Thanks again, Howdie! I managed to arrest my addictive personality disorders several years ago by reading this book and struggling with the same kind of personal struggle he is describing.🪬
Wow! I knew about half or one third of.what you were talking about and the other half blew me away. Thanks for the reference too. Will take look!
Whats the One Neat Trick that will allow me to accomplish this in 1 week?
@57:15 - X 1,000 Mr. Howdie!! Absolut facts brother!!!
Thank you Howdie.....for my knowledge gathering, I am looking at: Niels Bohr, John Wheeler, Donald Hoffman and Howdie Mickoski....all good men.
I am sucking in information all over from.
Thanks!!❤
Great Guest, Great Channel! I subscribed thanks to Howdie and certainly will enjoy other guests you offer. Thank you and cheers from Czechia! 🧡👍🙏
I appreciate that! Should have some more great podcast in the future
Just ordered Howdie's second book.. love these interviews. ty
Thank you
So true 👍
“One of the first signs of the beginning of understanding is the wish to die. This life appears unbearable, another unattainable. One is no longer ashamed of wanting to die; one asks to be moved from the old cell, which one hates, to a new one, which one willl only in time come to hate. In this there is also a residue of belief that during the move the master will chance to come along the corridor, look at the prisoner and say: "This man is not to be locked up again, He is to come with me.”
― Franz Kafka, Blue Octavo Notebooks. Did Kafka know?
Really Great Interview. Thank you Paul for all your questions, and Howdie for your answers!!
It is an invaluable contribution.
Thank you. I was a little rusty, but Howdie is very easy to chat with .
Cheers
Confucius last words were, "“Heaven has turned against me. No wise ruler arises, and no one in the Empire wishes to make me his teacher. The hour of my death has come.”
Alternatively,
"“The great mountain must collapse, the mighty beam must break, and the wise man wither like a plant.”
I think this demonstrates even his frustration with trying to fix the matrix. The suffering is a feature, not a bug.
Big dumb Universe anyway.
Thank you 🙏💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
Howdie's right about only having to focus on self. Why did I think God needed my help😅
Ive had a divine spark experience, it the most incredibly brilliant red. Looks like a massive twinkling star.
I really don’t have the time or money to join Howdie’s private chats, but I am wondering if others enjoy the group and find there is much more info revealed there, because something is missing for me since he revealed his new book. How did the shift happen that pointed him to the Divine Spark of oneness? It seems he is aligning with A Course in Miracles non-duality content. “Nothing is real, everything is forgiven because it never happened…”
Can’t wait for the next interview. You asked great questions, thank you!!
PS. I ordered the book. Can’t wait to receive it
Thank you!
I dont know, the difference with Howdie vs other might be slight but slight can be huge in this kind of topic! I just listened to him on this interview and another today ( that other was a month old on Divine Spark Talks) and i also heard him a long while ago. But these two interviews i listened today really set him apart from other materials and in a way one can begin to comprehend
@@claresage Did the compared videos not seem like a huge leap of faith? I need to know how he bridged the chasm. Have you any perspective of the basis for Howdie’s change of heart from a life devoted to escaping the simulation to one devoted more to Christ-consciousness here on Earth?
@@TalkJunkies I hope you can have him on again soon! You’re a great interviewer and there’s so much more to know about his understanding of the world now vs. when he wrote about “The Cave.” Perhaps he feels we have to master a life on Earth before exiting??
Thank you!!! 🥰
Howdie presents an interesting perspective. It makes some sense. I saw prognosis for the national Debt of the USA for coming years, it’s shocking it grows from year to year , nothing won’t be fixed, I seem to get it.
the dollar and other fiat will lose its value. Thanks for an enlightening podcast 🔥💕
The fiat will never lose its value, you just don't understand it's source. It's actual sour e is the spark, through all of the actors with it signing things.
Problem is you're trying to fight the matrix as an individual - of course it's going to overpower you. First - you don't need to fight. Second you get to know/feel your spark and start moving where it leads you. Third you do not need to die to escape - you transmute it and get free as you are still here. That's it.
So simple 😮😂😅
Thank you
Yeahhhhhhhhh 😊
Thanks!! I had been on the Trump train but jumped off a year ago then headed down the woowoo path but nothing ever really resonated with me. Found Howdie and Tony Sayers. I definitely feel there findings do make sense to me. Im still really pissed off about the whole thing. I would like to know your thoughts about the possibility of a reset coming soon. Howdie mentioned the military population count reflected in the Deagel Report for 2025 for the population of the United States. Thanks ❤
Howdie thinks its very soon. By end of 2025 many places will see great decline in population but even much worse by 2030. We arent here to reset. We're here to exit!
It all depends on each Individuals situation. A Rich Beautiful Girl is told the world is hers and its True. A poor disabled child is told Life will be Hard and its True. I dont know if God/Devil plays favorites but each one of us experience a different version of the Matrix, but i would say the majority of us thinks it sucks, we will never be famous, experience the Love of our Life without Grief and Loss, Travel the World and live Mansions but some people will, and those people will really Love Life and we wont see things eye to eye with them.
Only the funny thing is, we are repeatedly told that money doesn’t buy good fortune & happiness, and we see it play out quite often.
@@Aetherfieldit buys it, but at what expense? Will they ever want out? If they dont want out, can they ever get out?
Yes it is a perplexity why we are put in here with such differences, especially if it can make such difference in whether we exit the matrix
@@claresage Can we get out any more-so than they?
Yes, I've had a similar thought , about who gets what each time round, if the demierge is feeding on our fears.
Most of my expansions of conciousness have come through suffering. Thought I had all the spiritual answers through karmic laws..
Aaaah stuffed my gut again with fastfood.....stopped alcohol and nicotine.
Howdie reminds me of Jonathan adam pants.
I wanted to order Howdies book on Amazon but I can't :-( all the time is showing me its not delivered to my country, which is Uk 😢
Excellent conversation and it resonated big time with me. Do you have to have read the first book to understand this new one?
I would say yes. First book sets up his new book for sure. Cheers
I would say yes, only if you want to see how Howdie’s position has dramatically shifted positions. It makes me realize that he has entered another simulacrum during his process.
This sounds like a Course in Miracles
On the contrary...
@@howdoesitgetbetterPlease explain, because I thought the same. ACIM states that we have to give up the illusions of this world to obtain the peace of Heaven.
@@Aetherfield ACIM's core principle revolves around the idea that love is the only reality. ACIM teaches that only love is real and eternal, as it reflects the nature of God >>> what God? Satan? Lucifer?
@@Aetherfield According to ACIM, God is the Creator of the eternal and perfect spiritual realm, which includes our true selves (referred to as the Son of God or Christ in ACIM). @Aetherfield do you see? ACIM is referring (knowingly and unknowingly) whom? Son of God or Christ? Lucifer? Satan? The Holy Spirit in ACIM serves as the communication link between God and humanity. It is the Voice for God, guiding individuals back to truth and love. Voice for God? Voice of Satan?
@@howdoesitgetbetter From Chat GPT: “In A Course in Miracles (ACIM), the concept of the "ego" is central to understanding the nature of the world and how to transcend it. ACIM doesn’t explicitly use the term “demiurge” as it is understood in some Gnostic traditions, but it offers a similar framework that describes the world as an illusion created by the ego - a false sense of self and separation from God. The "demiurge" concept in ACIM could be interpreted as the ego's false creation of a world of separation, which can only be transcended through the mind's shift from fear to love.”
To me, that sounds like where Howdie is resonating. It sounds like he believes that staying in his lane of love and helping helping others, will set him free…
Can someone please explain the sleeping beauty reference? Why can she not wake herself and escape without Prince (divine spark?) Who or what put her to sleep, and where is free will?
In the story, she was put into a coma by the evil witch. As a corollary, the true part of "you" which projects this false reality was put into coma by the Demiurge. "You" have to wake her up by having dignity and something awesome to create the desire of her to wake up.
@ Thank you. I don’t think there’s much here that is worth waking up or sticking around for
What is the 2nd creation Howdie is referring to in Genisis? 33:20
There was a false creation and a true creation. We are currently experiencing the false one.
@@pointzerotwo Ok, but does it actually mention that In Genisis? Howdie made it sound like this second creation was actually documented
@@franknberry333 I don't read fiction, but Howdie does, and he said that the old testament was a mix and match of words from the first true creation and the second false one.
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Howdy Micoski there are places in this reality where it's total peace and total love we are the mighty humans we have to come together to defeat the global cabal and as some say the demiurge service to others before Self is key that's how we defeat the evil forever this I truly believe
Well then that disagrees with Howdies whole premise that this place cannot be made perfect,cannot really even be improved, and isnt meant to be...
Only in dreams do we think that 'we' are capable of defeating and changing anything.
@@Janis364 you have good dreams then!!
"HAVE ALREADY COME AND GONE" not came and gone. Great talk.cheers.
Cheers
Where is this group he's talking about?
Howdie's locals. He lists the link on his latest videos.
Neo Anderson 😅
Too deep for me!! I guess im screwed 😔
No you aren't, just be open. True knowing only happens from inner revelation. And that will always happen when you are ready. Start with Howdie's first book, Exit the Cave.
No- you’re here, and that’s the biggest step. It’s a difficult leap to take. Give yourself time to process this. It can take a long time.
Sometimes we need to give ourselves time to digest the new concepts bit-by-bit. We don’t always transform in one fast swoop- especially if you’re a control freak.
One interview is defn not enough, but a few is still only a start 😊
I'am one with nobody
So that's what, 50 hours?
Jesus was baptized IN water???
John baptized with water, Jesus with fire.
You disrespect your guests when you don't bother to read their names. There is no COW in Mick OS ky. Is the rest of your interview going to be as careless?
You can't be bothered to actually READ your guest's name. It has no COW in it. Mick OS ky. Shows desrespect for others when you don't LOOK at their name.
I'm so sorry name police. Don't you have something better to do other then freaking out over a name?
The Jinn are from the fire realm. I believe they were created from fire?