The Unwritten Laws of Tennis
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2023
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Personally I like tennis etiquette as it keeps the game civil, unlike many other sports.
As for raising a hand when one benefits from a net ball, it’s not really an apology but rather an acknowledgment to the opponent that it was luck. Very respectful and I hope this continues.
Lot of shots are luck especially at rec level that are not a net ball no one else apologizes for those. I just ignore it or have a good laugh about it and move on whether I won the point or they did. It all evens out in the end. The apology seems more awkward because both know it's fake.
Only club level but I’m sometimes embarrassed to win a point like that and it’s a genuine acknowledgement. Surely this feeling is not uncommon at all levels
Honestly I don’t mind winning a net cord point, and I don’t apologize for it. I will say, I wouldn’t brag about the point either. It happens for me and to me, it is what it is, no reason to apologize for it
@@adamheath4599 it’s an interesting one, I would always take it - I wouldn’t prefer it to drop my side. But it’s an error really isn’t it, that you’ve won a point from, you don’t aim for the net cord, so I feel a little uneasy about it.
@@munckymagic that’s fair, maybe cause I’m a believer in karma that I’ll always take blessings that come my way lol
I hate winning bullshit points. It’s an honest sorry from me even (though it doesn’t bother me when it happens TO me…. I know, cognitive dissonance).
If the ball touches the net, the point should be over. No one feels good about a net cord.
One of the most entertaining and hilarious breakdowns of etiquette was the Tsitsipas vs Kyrgios Wimbledon match, where Tsitsipas regularly tried to clock Kyrgios at the net and on return. Gosh that was SUCH a crazy match haha.
Crazy match 💯
I love Bublik too. Man, how he curses in Russian! He never says anything bad about the opponent, but still so funny to hear him swearing.
There's another word for etiquette: Respect. For your opponent and yourself. I think small gestures of respect toward your opponent means you're taking their game seriously, not dismissing them by getting angered or distracted. You remain focused on your game as a solution - problem-solving their game, the threats they pose on the court and in your mind. With baseline respect, you're more likely to rise to the challenge they present with presence of mind. It's respecting the game that gives so much to you, to all of us - all the social and health benefits - feelings of connectedness, community, that enduring feeling of accomplishment, feelings of well-being and vigor and an extended lifespan. Tennis raises our quality of life and respect is an important piece of that equation.
What about Tennis Court etiquette? Like closing the door when you enter or leave the courts. Or waiting for a point to finish before walking behind a player?
The reason that some might find players like Nick or Bublik entertaining is because they are the exception to the unwritten rules of sportsmanship in tennis. If everybody did it tennis would become unbearable to watch.
Bublik is curious to watch. Watch him. Some of his traits. He smiles a lot - maybe too much, especially when he wins a point. It seems like he's reveling in his opponents anguish and basking in his own superiority - that type of thing. It strikes me as slightly strange - something's off. A touch sociopathic. But then he'll show sportsmanship and argue to the umpire on behalf of Medvedev, but there are other instances of sportsmanship and empathy and respect for his opponent. He rarely shows rage or acts out in tantrums like Kyrgios. It's fair to say Bublik is effusive and seems to be more animated than most other players.
@Piewalkermatt Yeah, I like Bublik. I've used him just as an exemple of an unorthodox player who gets a little rowdy sometimes. He is definitely not as annoying as Nick
As a kid playing another kid, we were so happy when net cord happened. "That was so cool" kind of mentality and we both smiled.
I still think its cool, win or lose the point, because it is always unintentional and exciting waiting to see what side it drops 😀❤️🎾
I like this viewpoint and it’s so true. I play with my 8 year old son and he is the happiest kid ever when hits the net cord winner. He just finds it cool and funny, maybe also because we call it a “pig” in my language :) On the other hand he felt really down and broken when I won an important point with an unplayable “pig” in our match the other day. So I guess the “sorry” or hand gesture is to show empathy with the other player and acknowledge you won a point with the unintentional help of luck. There is absolutely no need to analyze if we are being honest in saying “sorry” or not. For me it doesn’t clash with being happy about winning the point. I can be happy about the result and still acknowledge that the way of getting it was not how I wanted to do it and show empathy to the other. Because obviously most of the times we are not going to laugh together on every “pig” like kids. But some points are mutually funny even for grown-ups :)
Nice topic, well done.
I find it interesting that when a player hits the net cord and loses the point, his or her opponent doesn't apologize from the opposite stand point (of when one wins the "lucky" point)...
GREAT video concept
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Love this. Going full Christopher Walken in this one. Your videos have really helped me learn the game. Thanks so much.
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I also lift my hand in apology after a shank winner, but of course I love it inside.
Regarding hitting someone on an overhead - for us rec players, I disagree that it’s poor sportsmanship. We’re not as other worldly as pro players, and it’s a legit good strategy to hit overheads or put away volleys at our opponents feet if they’re in the vicinity of the net area. No one is going to get hurt, just maybe hurt feelings sometimes
Ive only played tennis most my life on a recreational/ hobby level. Never played in a league or anything, but yeah these tennis etiquettes have been engrained in my mind for a long time. Another one, and its pretty obvious, is waiting for your opponent to be ready before serving.
The shaking of hands at the end of a match is pretty much just a show of respect and sportsmanship.
Can't think of any other unwritten laws at the moment, that might be all of it though.
@IntuitiveTennis Important video. Consider doing a short one on handling disputes on court, not only disputed calls, but managing disrespect from difficult personalities and ways to defuse verbal confrontations, especially since most USTA/UTR matches are self-officiated. Would love to hear some of your own experiences.
Another request - a video or short on the limitations of practice sessions.
Good points! Also, in the next one you might give some pointers to entering and exiting public courts, being careful to warn neighbors if your ball gets into their court, feeding balls back to players either behind them at the fence, or after they complete their point. I'm finding there is a great lack of awareness in these areas as well.
True 💯
I agree with most of what you said . The one point I’d argue is that an underhand serve is against tennis etiquette. I think it’s a genuine tactic especially if your opponent is standing far behind the baseline . I will admit that if over used like if you just constantly underhand serve I’d say that is going against tennis etiquette.
I don't say "sorry" because it's fake but rather just "lucky!".
Did people always do the net cord apology? As a junior player back in the 90s don't remember that happening as much or at all
Hey Nikola, what racket is that? Is it the shift? I just got the Shift 315 Pro and if it’s the one you’re using I’d be even more excited to try it out with Super Smash orange, love that string btw
100% it´s not the Shift. Probably a Babolat Pure Drive, because that´s what he always uses.
I always raise my hand when I frame the ball and win the point, is it too much?
No it’s what you’re supposed to do 💯
The etiquette rule that you didn’t mention which players break sometimes is celebrating your opponent’s double faults or unforced errors on easy balls.
I did talk about that
Absolutely.
I don’t like winning a long rally on a lucky bounce off the net, but it is what it is. Luck is (a small) part of the game. Sometimes you get lucky and others your opponent gets it.
thank you for being real about this in the first 30 seconds.
i cannot logically understand the "sorry" even on a net cord. if the net wasn't there it would be a different game.
there is ultimately some instances where the person is actually sorry because they meant to do something completely different and things just happen, but 100% nobody is ever sorry about hitting a shot that wins a point.
It's very presomptuous on your part to say you "know" how every other player perceives the game. Nobody ever intends to hit the net, and we all know that when this happens, we get lucky. Of course when this happens I'm glad if it falls on the other side and not on mine, but my opponent could not even get a chance to hit the ball. That's not how I want to win points. I want to win points because I played better than my opponent: I hit a winner or I made him miss by putting pressure on him. Winning with a net shot is not the spirit of the game. I am genuinely sorry when I win a point this way, just as I have every right to feel my opponent is nothing but a lucky bastard when he hits the net.
Not even Federer, Nadal or Djokovic hit the netcord on purpose. And they always apologize. Learn from the great. Make this sport noble again.
you think that people can hit the net cord on purpose lmao? that would be a winner every shot and someone would do it if they could @@miguelbarahona6636
Only times I've ever been sincere in apology is once every couple years I will have a match where every net cord goes my way or if during a very close / fun match with friends if match points ends on a net cord winner 😂
You gonna do any more lessons or coaching Nic?
Big coaching series coming in December
I remember watching Edberg winning net cord shots and not apologizing. And he wins sportsmanship awards
Coming from baseball ⚾️ I totally get it…I always apologize after hitting a home run off the foul pole! 😂
Don’t wake up the sleeping bear, says Agassi, aka don’t supermotivate your opponent for no reason.
It seems straightforward to at least shake the other player’s hand at the end of the match. It’s like a “GG” and a thanks for playing. At the end of the day it’s a game for fun and they chose to play it with you
The number one tennis etiquette for any player, in my view, is controlling your own emotions and temper. This applies to any player from the club level all the way to ATP/WTA.
Where are you located?
By apologizing you just acknowledge that luck decided the last point so that both players may
be least affected mentally by that in the next point. In some situations although it may be better
not to apologize as it only would be a provocation, like after a fragrant net cord at setpoint
in a close set. So far my interpretaion of etiquette.
The apology after a net cord for me, is fair enough. I know when *I'm* playing, and someone hits a shot that I WOULD have got to, but for the dumb luck of the net cord, it kills the point, at that moment I feel like the point was decided not by the skill of the players. And yes, if it happens in my favour, I get the point, but I know deep down inside that I didnt win that point through my own skill. It was just dumb luck. So in reverse, I get frustrated, because I feel like luck has prevented me from playing the point fully. So I can see it from both sides, and when you think of how much effort serious people put into their game, you dont want luck to decide anything. If that was what matters, we wouldnt be tennis players, but professional gamblers.
It's not so much an apology as an acknowledgement that it was a lucky point.
I aim for the net cord. Thats why i celebrate
😂😂😂
I have often wondered why there is this big fuss over the apologies for net cords, even from commentators who are retired touring pros. It seems to me obviously that the player is not at all claiming to be sorry that he/she benefitted from the good fortune, but is an ACKNOWLEGEMENT THAT GOOD FORTUNE PLAYED ITS PART IN HIS/HER WINNING THE POINT.
And as for the after-match handshake, that's more complicated.
If someone doesn´t handshake, I think he/she is a bad person. I would never trust someone like that.
this guy is cool'
Saying sorry for a lucky shot is unauthentic and if you say sorry then it is an admission of some guilt . Guilt means that did something wrong and therefore should play it over or loose that point . Since this does not occur , there is nothing to feel guilt about . Just be in awe .
The rules are neccesary to define the parameters of combat . Define etiquette as part of the rules . Anything else must not limit you performance wise . Trick shots could be used as a means of accessing the ball quickly from a distorted position . The rules written or otherwise should be about respect for the sport and each other . Authenticity of the players is key . The moment the rules limit your mobility and performance, then there is a problem . The game then becomes crippling and enslaving vs mentally freeing .
This reasoning makes no sense. If my grandma died and you say "I'm sorry for your loss", are you admitting some guilt in the death of my granny? Of course not, it means something like "I feel bad for you, and feel some empathy towards your loss". It's the exact same when I say I'm sorry after hitting a net shot. I don't feel guilty about it, but I know you feel it's kind of unfair since you didn't even get a real chance to hit the ball back.
@@janzy1980 obviously the difference is the lack of participation in the event . You can say I'm sorry for your loss when it is obvious that you did not participate in that loss . If you are believed to have participated in that loss , anything can be looked upon , by others as culpability no matter the intention in saying something positive or not at all . Sports unless it's casual and with nothing on the line , is not a win win situation like an exhibition match , or a lose situation , when a player passes on . Tennis is a win / loose situation . It is only win / win at the top , with your pay checks for participating.
We all get lucky sometimes…I never apologize for it. Happens on both sides of the net. I don’t get the apology for when it hits the tape and goes over.
What about fist pumps? Understand it occasionally on amazing shots. But some players do it on every shot.
The people who are fist pumping on opponent’s unforced errors are very disrespectful. Especially every point.
Fist pumps are overdone from some players ua-cam.com/video/P0GebNsHeFA/v-deo.htmlsi=3x_wuh3LAi0tUxSJ
As in most things in life, It comes down to manners. If you write them down , they become rules. And you can’t have rules for everything
You’re spending around 2 hours locked in a form of combat with one other person who you may have never even met before. So both players had better to go out of their way to be good-natured and respectful to each other, or else the whole scenario would quickly become unpleasant or even dangerous. It’s different for the pros, because they have match officials and spectators, but they nevertheless have a responsibility to uphold and make an example of the same courtesies.
No physical altercations ……..
………. Corentin Moutet be like 😏
You forgot about Lendl and Marat Safin.
Lendl vs McEnroe was one of the greatest rivalries. I’ll never forget Lendl clocking Mac in the chest on easy passing shots 😂😂
Well, the “sorry but not sorry” is not always true. I’m very sorry when I hit the line, because I didn’t deserve the point, as I never go for the lines. Same when my opponent miss a very easy volley. Those are points that don’t depend on my or the opponent skills.
Don't agree on hitting the line. It is part of "in part of the court. (I personally love hitting the line, but in any case it is known/understood by most that even touching the outer edge of the line is a good and "in" shot.) Agree on easy miss from opponent: volley as you say, overhead, and double fault. You don't want many of those in a game, or it's not equal players.
I mean... does Bublik really bends tennis etiquette this much? Underarm serve and his weird habit of receiving the serve so close to the net is unconventional, dude had his bursts of anger and he swears in Russian like a LOT.
But I've rarely seen him being malignant or negligent towards his opponent. On the contrary, he's very kind and cheerful even towards the opponents he lost to.
Kyrgios is a diva, but I think he had mellowed out atm.
I think Rune is the best example of unsportsmanship embodied. But I guess he's a stupid kid who will grow up eventually.
What did Rune do?
I hate fake sincerity. I never apologize for a net cord in matches. When I play my regular partner, it's the only shot where I pump my fist and celebrate.
Nobody in the world is good enough to intentionally hit the net cord intentionally. It is true.
I never raise my hand when I do it because it was an accident. It was a lucky shot.
My good luck and *the opponent's bad luck!* So the raising of the hand should be viewed not as an "apology" for something you intentionally did but as a simple acknowledgment and condolences for your opponent's bad luck. 🎾
Start raising your hand 👋
the majority of tennis is not blood sport, its just social exercise, and if youre not kind to your fellow players, you wont be getting a call to fill in for a doubles match
Net cord winners I apologize only because I hate being on the receiving side of it. True double edged sword. Framed shot winners, on the other hand, I joke about and don't apologize.
People think sticking your tongue out is entertaining. I think it’s stupid. Wow he’s a wild guy, he sticks his tongue out..
BS, Nick. Let's clear this up, once and for all. The tennis players I know are incredibly decent, considerate people. If I get a lucky let cord, I feel genuinely apologetic to you - you might have to react like crazy, sprint and still not get to the ball. And I also feel very lucky to get the point, knowing how valuable it is to me against a strong player like you. BOTH feelings at the same time. (And we will have a better match than some of the crappy stuff I see in American college "tennis".)*
*I guess the mention of that awful NCAA spirit gives an opening to address your moment of trauma that drove you out of tennis for a few years: If you rush yourself in tennis, you're likely to fail. If someone is in your ear saying, "You must win the next point", that creates the conditions for you to be much more likely to lose that point. So you didn't finish off that win because of dumb college rules that forgot about the joy of tennis. No human can legitimately blame himself, saying "Oh, but I should have winners on demand, without errors, since that's what I needed, pronto". If I had been your opponent, I'd have said let's play to the end of that game at least, regardless of time. I love it that I fight and don't lose often, but I also love for you to have a fair chance to win. It's sportsmanship. It's why we play high level tennis, or any level tennis for that matter.
lucky AND grateful.
If you insist that sincerity means I must show my apology in action, not just a hand wave, then I'll give you the point. But that makes the game messy&complicated, since some let cords actually help you out, and some let cords it barely brushes the tape and point continues normally.
no shaking hands in my group anymore ... we touch rackets nowadays ... don't know if shaking hands will ever come back
People have no etiquette! Even with experienced players. Aside from no etiquette they lack common decency.
My only beef with tennis rules is they should allow let serves if they count during play. And regarding etiquette I don't give a sh!t if players don't shake hands or don't raise their hand on net cords. Just get rid of the ridiculous, incessant, obnoxious grunting, moaning, screaming every time they hit the ball. It's like they're being tortured or something. A little grunt is normal but get rid of those horrendous screams and moans straight out of horror movies.
Very good points agree completely
No apologies. It happens to everyone. Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose which is exactly like every other sport you play. I like the idea of being gracious but this is a bit stupid. How about apologizing when I smoke a forehand up the line and you make a lunge and the ball hits of the edge of your frame and goes in. That’s as lucky as you can get and you had no intention of using your frame so you should apologize for using your frame and getting lucky. ??
Yes you should apologize for frame shot winners, bad bounces etc. 99% or high level players do
if i hit the net and it barely goes over I laugh my a$$ off
same thing if i hit a drop shot with a ton of spin and it curves away from the opponent after they set to hit it...and they just are left standing there...OMFG i laugh so hard and the people at the tennis club HATE IT haha. one because i've only been playing 5 months and can beat 90% of the 10 - 20 year + players and I have a serve around 110. (and Yes I have had it officially radar clocked at a D1 college by a coach and my fastest was 117 but on average i get 105-110)
I think it's ridiculous to say that an underhand serve goes against the etiquette. It is no more disrespectful than a drop shot. When the receiver stands 15 to 20 feet behind the baseline, I believe the underhand serve, specially with a wicked slice, is totally justifiable and a total pleasure to watch from the stands. As for the "apology" gesture, I believe it is totally ridiculous to even call call it an apology. I never apologize for a lucky shot. But I do the gesture as an acknowledgement of pure luck and as I do the gesture I actually voice it out with a "Sorry, lucky shot". And the only reason I say "Sorry" is because... I'm Canadian.
I think hitting the top of the net should count as a fault. On the serve just as well as during play. No more apologizing this way and it would speed up the game as well.
We practice playing balls off the net. It's a legitimate part of the game.
Poor sportsmanship is not entertaining
nick kyrgios antics is NOT 100% entertaining to watch. To even suggest that is just ridiculous
casual life-bored couch sitter
I agree. It should be corrected. Nick Kyrgios is 100% pure blockbuster entertainment when facing Top 15. Aside from that, his antics dry out when facing someone not even in the top 30s