The Star Trek joke is funny, and true. Any time in Star Trek where an Enterprise team would beam down to a planet and you saw Kirk, Spock and a guy with a red shirt, you knew the guy with the red shirt wasn't coming back... Happened every time!
I had a girlfriend that told me about the red shirts, and now I wish it was a running joke. Spock, take a couple red shirts down to the surface and sac them to the aliens.
7:46, I once heard that because of modern chess programs and supercomputers we now know that in that position white is winning, but I left Stockfish on my computer analysing that position until I got a blue screen and it evaluated the position as a +0.66 for white at depth 39, and the evaluation seemed to be going lower as the depth increased which to me suggests a draw.
Haven't seen this guy in years then I decide to do a recap on the Fried Liver and here he is. Why wasn't I subscribed? I'm pretty sure I subscribed to this channel years ago.
Just some interesting engine facts: Around the time he says the engine says black is all right, latest Stockfish recognizes white has the better position even a piece down (about +0.8 pawns). Now, after a3, the engine goes to -1.7 pawns if only the human opponent could practice what should happen in theory. Always interesting when a losing position results in a win. . The engine confidently leaves the king lined up and claims about a 1.8 pawn advantage for black. It mobilizes its queen with Qh4 instead. After Kd6, the engine starts thinking the position is +6.3. However, that is with an only move d4, which Shirov found.
There should be a Ben Finegold Memorial Award for the best classes on chess for kids. Ben can win it for the next 20 or 30 years or as long as he continues, and then the trustees will have to decide if anyone can equal him. I've played the Fried Liver with Black. I seem to remember that Black can end up with 3 pawns for a Knight somehow. That Knight on b4 has to go, maybe. I can't remember. Twenty years ago I allowed this guy to play it against me, and after we worked through the opening madness and we were equal,, he was grudgingly appreciative.
You are not going to believe this but i was searching up this video like 50 min ago and could not fine it so i watched the traxler video and then you posted this. I guess you took down the old video exactly when i wanted to see it
32:50 very fun how ben lets the kids do their own analysis. "I'm too old for this!" nf6+ kxf6 qxe5+ kg6 bd3+ does look like it should be winning... except for one thing...
@@thetree1994 Ben's favorite player, Hikaru, played Ng5 against Fabi a couple days ago. "Not a Fried Liver," yet here's the lecture from 2017. Odd coincidence, don't you think? 🤔🙃
welcome to early chess history. all we have from Greco are a few rotten manuscripts with moves, and barely any historically accurate information about his life. the guy traveled a lot, plus the "games" are probably analyses anyway, so sorry dude, but there is no more accurate info here.
As someone with social anxiety, I always imagine how on your toes you'd have to be at an in-person Finegold class. But actually, it's genius. Keeping the kids on their toes, ensuring they're paying attention to both the chess, and the infamous Finegold quips, it keeps them razor sharp. Or at least that's my theory anyway, I could talking baloney
I was wondering the same, but why not... If he deems it necessary or even if he wishes to re-upload for "science", you know, to see how the youtube algorythm handles / promotes it, why not?
When he says "it has to be this position and it has to be this move order" I can't help thinking you can transpose to the fried liver in a few reasonable ways and thousands of absurd ones and it's still the fried liver. In fact if you transpose from the double bongcloud to the fried liver it's still the fried liver because who cares about castling privileges. Probably not black.
Ben: if I play this move, the computer will explode and the lesson will end.
Kid from the audience: Do it.
The best moment!
It's so funny how the kids understand Ben's chess lesons, but they almost never get his jokes.
It’s cause his jokes are about before they were born
@@thetree1994 Yeah I understand, they are much more for his own enjoyement than for the kids. I get it, but it's still prety funny at times
Showing that humor is harder to master then chess.
The truth hurts
I wouldn't go so far as to say they understand it
The Star Trek joke is funny, and true. Any time in Star Trek where an Enterprise team would beam down to a planet and you saw Kirk, Spock and a guy with a red shirt, you knew the guy with the red shirt wasn't coming back... Happened every time!
Red-shirt players don't get much time.
I had a girlfriend that told me about the red shirts, and now I wish it was a running joke. Spock, take a couple red shirts down to the surface and sac them to the aliens.
Ben is the best chess teacher
Frankly
@@dime124
Never met Frankly, but I'll take your word for it.
Go Ben! But also stay there
If you listen closely to the final lyrics of Queen's 'One Vision', you'll hear them sing "fried liver".
Very suspicious.
If you play it backwards, it says "Put it in H."
Sorry but it's Fried Chicken.
Ben's favorite player, Hikaru, played Ng5 against Fabi a couple days ago. "Not a Fried Liver," yet still a repost. 🤔🙃
7:46, I once heard that because of modern chess programs and supercomputers we now know that in that position white is winning, but I left Stockfish on my computer analysing that position until I got a blue screen and it evaluated the position as a +0.66 for white at depth 39, and the evaluation seemed to be going lower as the depth increased which to me suggests a draw.
LOL at @1:48. That Joke goes a level deeper than I was expecting and caught me off guard 😄
Love how the thumb shows the wrong Fried Liver even though Ben complains about that every lecture 😂
Ben: "If I play Rook f4, my computer will blow up and the lecutre will end."
Kid: "Do it!"
Haven't seen this guy in years then I decide to do a recap on the Fried Liver and here he is. Why wasn't I subscribed? I'm pretty sure I subscribed to this channel years ago.
Caruana wishing this came out earlier.
Caruana did NOT play a Fried Liver.
@@SenatorBluto If he watched this video he would have 💯
@@SenatorBluto he allowed it by playing Nf6 and gave up the decision. Hikaru opted to go into the Fried Liver, thus forcing Caruana to play it.
@@SmilingMoos3
Caruana would be insane to play into a Fried Liver vs Hikaru. What are you talking about?
I dunno know why Ben is deleting my comments. Did I say something wrong?
Just some interesting engine facts: Around the time he says the engine says black is all right, latest Stockfish recognizes white has the better position even a piece down (about +0.8 pawns). Now, after a3, the engine goes to -1.7 pawns if only the human opponent could practice what should happen in theory. Always interesting when a losing position results in a win. .
The engine confidently leaves the king lined up and claims about a 1.8 pawn advantage for black. It mobilizes its queen with Qh4 instead. After Kd6, the engine starts thinking the position is +6.3. However, that is with an only move d4, which Shirov found.
There should be a Ben Finegold Memorial Award for the best classes on chess for kids. Ben can win it for the next 20 or 30 years or as long as he continues, and then the trustees will have to decide if anyone can equal him.
I've played the Fried Liver with Black. I seem to remember that Black can end up with 3 pawns for a Knight somehow. That Knight on b4 has to go, maybe. I can't remember. Twenty years ago I allowed this guy to play it against me, and after we worked through the opening madness and we were equal,, he was grudgingly appreciative.
You are not going to believe this but i was searching up this video like 50 min ago and could not fine it so i watched the traxler video and then you posted this. I guess you took down the old video exactly when i wanted to see it
I’m happy i clicked the bell. I enjoy these so much
32:50 very fun how ben lets the kids do their own analysis. "I'm too old for this!"
nf6+ kxf6 qxe5+ kg6 bd3+ does look like it should be winning... except for one thing...
I like the definition Ben gave about Theory and practice.
3:30 - Ben, there's nothing wrong with Bc5 there - definitely not at scholastic level, apart from the many, many tears it will cause
wow he will be SO amazed at this information 🤣
This is the most lesson I have ever watched for the fried liver!
It’s funny that Ben has a bunch of these recorded from years ago and just never posted them.
What are the odds?
Odds of what?
@@thetree1994
Ben's favorite player, Hikaru, played Ng5 against Fabi a couple days ago. "Not a Fried Liver," yet here's the lecture from 2017. Odd coincidence, don't you think? 🤔🙃
Many many many of these lectures have been posted before
Ohhh so it’s a repost
So just don't allow the fried liver attack. 😂 This guy is informative and hilarious.😂
1:48
Bishop C5!
Goooooo Aman with the Traxler variation (which I think requires the knight out first but w/e openings are a random series of moves)
still one of the best videos
Can someone bookmark Traxler variation (4. ... Bc5) for me?
You don't have clearance to play the Traxler. Sorry.
Played in "Europe"? Thanks for narrowing it down.
welcome to early chess history. all we have from Greco are a few rotten manuscripts with moves, and barely any historically accurate information about his life. the guy traveled a lot, plus the "games" are probably analyses anyway, so sorry dude, but there is no more accurate info here.
Great lecture as usual. :)
As someone with social anxiety, I always imagine how on your toes you'd have to be at an in-person Finegold class.
But actually, it's genius. Keeping the kids on their toes, ensuring they're paying attention to both the chess, and the infamous Finegold quips, it keeps them razor sharp.
Or at least that's my theory anyway, I could talking baloney
No, this is a fried liver lecture, it's not about the Benoni
@@aakashbasu3219 emmm, I like fried benoni. I make it with eggs.
lol legendary introduction “ I’m Grand Master Ben Finegold and your not “
360p damn its an old one
"Normally, we're very serious."
Why are you re-uploading these?
I was wondering the same, but why not... If he deems it necessary or even if he wishes to re-upload for "science", you know, to see how the youtube algorythm handles / promotes it, why not?
Always repeat
@@michaelemerson1949 good answer
I think these videos were originally under the St.Louis Chess Club channel, so I'm guessing he wants the views and revenue?
@@michaelemerson1949
Rinse first.
26:02 hmmm 🧐🧐
Just yesterday Hikaru won a classical game in the fried liver against Fabiano, to steal 1st place in the last round of Norway chess!
It WASN'T a damn Fried Liver!
I'm scared to say I thought it was fried liver too. So I will retreat
@@michaelemerson1949
What does Ben say in the video??
@@SenatorBluto
Dude, calm down. It's not a four alarm fire. 😂
You know, they have medication for that now. :p
@@SenatorBluto sure sure but it starts up like a fried liver and everyone including multiple GMs were calling it the fried liver
Actually the criss-cross mate is named after grandmaster Chris Cross
and a musician too.
Just got 100% playing the liver
👏🙂
Very interesting
In response to hikarus win over fabi!
What does the word suspicious mean to you?
If someone hits with their liver, I'm probably getting crushed.
Is the Cockring Gambit similar to the Bongcloud Opening?
No, Cochrane was the guy who invented it 😂
iirc 11...Kd6 loses 11...Qh4 at least equalizes.
Aronian played the fried liver like 3 years ago.
I have a particularly deep understanding of the Fried Liver because it's my main weapon against the Nimzo-Indian.
When he says "it has to be this position and it has to be this move order" I can't help thinking you can transpose to the fried liver in a few reasonable ways and thousands of absurd ones and it's still the fried liver.
In fact if you transpose from the double bongcloud to the fried liver it's still the fried liver because who cares about castling privileges. Probably not black.
"For kezample"
Not so vegan after all, Ben
GMs don't play 3...Nf6?? They all play 3...Bc5!! Noted even though it disagrees with everything I've already learned. Develop bishops before knights.
FIRST
I identify as GM Ben Finegold so I am
im from saint louis chanel, how could i not know you have ur own channel:
Have you seen the ccscatl channel?
@@Evilanious nah whats that bro