Potato playing Deity level: everything peaceful and quiet, everyone miles away, two cities by turn 50. Me playing on Emperor level: Barbs coming from the north. Barbs coming from the south. Gilgamesh is kicking butt on the city-state two hexes away from my city center and shoving all his war carts towards me while Montezuma denounces me because he just plain doesn't like me. My city has a production of -2 and it's turn 10.
I feel like people overexaggerate when it comes to how hard deity is. I play on deity all the time and it's honestly not that bad. Worst thing that can happen, and it's pretty rare, is that one random barb camp that spawns endless horsemen on turn 2 lmao..
@@alex2005z i would have moved 2 tiles to the left and gone for the production bonuses, then got a naval city set up for his second one, would be a slightly slower start but you'd catch up pretty quick with the extra gold to help early game
@@danshakuimo Seemed like my standard game start location.. maybe twice I have gotten a small abundance, like spawning right on a wonder with a tile next to it that had faith per turn and a lake with + science.. sadly I wasted the start trying to get a pacifist domination victory before I realized cultists have been completely nerfed and that strategy is hardly viable anymore.
The only very best option for me is Himiko, I wanna get her asap, I'd like to marry her, she is literally gamewinning hero... Oh, nevermind I'm going for Hercules
Himiko is hands-down, my favourite hero, tho I'm also a HUGE Hippolyta simp. The double Siege weapon attack and her Anti-Cav stats make her a fantastic front line unit.
Fun fact: Szeged ('segaed' :P) is an actual university city IRL, mostly known for it's research in the field of biology and medical school. So you got it's function historically correct! Well done PotatoMcWhiskey!
(Obviously, haven't seen the whole video yet, or even 99% of it) I appreciate it when you play games like this, with terrible starts. I find it impossible sometimes to resist restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting.... just because there's something I don't like about my starting, starting, starting..... location. It's good to see someone having fun with a bad draw and still making a game of it.
Then again, in my games this would still count as a decent start. Whenever I play any European civs I tend to spawn on a tiny grassland area between a tundra and a desert and that's annoying as hell. Desert is nice to have for the one Petra city, of course, but those are often the size of 3-4 cities in these spawns
Potato: "Oh My God, I got access to Sinbad, Sinbad is really really good" *A few seconds later Also Potato: "Oh, he has Sinbad, Sinbad is terrible on this map"
To be honest, I don't watch your videos, but I do listen to them while I sleep. There's something peaceful about your voice, so keep up the good work, champ.
@@LAZERAK47V2 Hey hey, we invented and took care of America for centuries before the colonizers came, giving the world chocolate, tomatoes, potatoes, rubber, and a land in balance with massive cities and trade haha
I think it would be pretty fun if you could get a lot of heroes as ethiopia and rehire them with the huge faith boosts from stave churches. Maybe not all of them, but a lot of them/the best ones. Go for the hanging gardens to get an increased lifespan for heroes. Does the oracle give discounts for faith purchasing heroes? I find that heros kinda fall off in power once you hit the industrial/ atomic era.
@@lordlordington4159 not all of them fall off as hard though. Himiko doesn't all off at all, and Oya and the Twins want to be fighting units not cities in the first place, so not so much for them either. Maui and Herc can still use their charges just as well in the late game and in the early game,though outside of that they do fall off. Sinbad also cares more about enemy boats/ barb camps than cities anyway, so him falling off depends more on the map and may become useless as soon as the Classical Era hits, or still be amazing in the Future Era. Beowulf, Mulan, Arthur and Hippolyta do fall off hard with enemy walls though, and Anansi falls off because his scaling is awful, and starting with the Modern Era all he does is double your science and culture output for 6 turns, which is definitely not worth the faith cost. And personally I find Sun Wukong lackluster all game long.
I feel like the Eger location was a mistake. I'd have built it one tile east, so you could Aquaduct to the river and have that strong 1f3p tile to work off of. Then buy the horses and away you go.
It was sorta obvious he had a Strategic at the capitol, actually, given there was only 1 Luxury and 2 Bonus visible in 2 rings of in place location. Typically you have 2 Luxuries in that radius if you don't have a Strategic. The surprise was that it was Iron rather than Horses.
A clickbait title if there ever was any. I'd consider this quite the decent start myself, and this guy claiming it is "LITERALLY the worst start ever" is just annoying. I'm used to potato posting clickbait titles by now, but this one was especially so.
@@samuelhakansson6680 I suspect he meant it in a tongue-in-cheek way. It seems like not a great start at first but becomes quite good as the game progresses.
@@michaelharris2178 Might be tongue-in-cheek, but its neither a great nor bad start. Its a completely average start (I'd say slightly good medium term, due to his isolated spawn). Starts like these are very common for me, and something I'll happily play off of on Deity. Isolated snow islands, flat desert (and Desert Folklore taken), not so much. I was kind of expecting such a start when I saw the title, and if tongue-in-cheek, a whole lot better than this.
@@alex2005z if I remember when he originally got that start it wasn’t even for a game, but a teaching video. And then he used that start for a china builder/wonder let’s play or stream.
Why not settle the plains hills and spam out a builder with the 5 prod per turn to farm up the Maize and wheat (buy wheat w gold generation from maize and Cotton). Seems like a decent city, also next to a river for the bonus.
Dude your videos are so entertaining and I have learned so much about this game from watching them. I love the way you explain all of your thought processes while being entertaining at the same time. Have spent hours watching your vids and don’t plan to stop 👍
I recently watched your guide about the starting position and I'd like to know why haven't you built you build Buda on these hills where you had moved your warrior first? According to that guide, you'd build on plains/hills, next tot the river, in the first ring had one tile with yield 5 and two of yield 4. 3 hills tiles in the first and second rings. Any thoughts?
@Krisztián Tóth Thanks. I'm usually pretty good at guessing how languages (at least ones that use the Latin alphabet) are pronounced, but Hungarian and Polish tend to confuse me. And Irish...I don't even bother. They invented their language just to piss off and/or embarrass the English.
Potato clickbaits a lot. This is a perfectly fine start for your average game. I'd be generally happy with this if I got it. Not perfect, but it has some upsides (good early production, placed in a corner so you dont have to worry about early Deity AI aggression from that side etc.).
Yeah, I always have starts with 2 to 3 enemies surrounding me, either no food or no production... If I want to do early domination or expand much, the enemies always attack me with crossbowmen way too early... Every domination win I've done was late game
That British guy Ursa Ryan did a great Hungary domination game on deity. The first one was majorly buffed because he added 18 city states but the second one was straight up yet even more dominant. He’s not as good as McWhiskey - nobody is except maybe GameMechanic - but he’s really good and I pull for all Civ 6 players to be able to make somewhat of a living or add some good income each month from playing.
That's a small hope of mine! I currently play civ on Xbox and plan to swap to pc soon and up my streaming as able. I've got a lot of people asking me to put it on UA-cam and I've been thinking about it, life's just been busy. I love how Mcwhiskey plays cause it always seems logical OR maximum chaos. Lol
The best thing you ever taught was the 20x conversion for gold per turn to raw gold. I was giving myself carpal tunnel clicking up and down haggling for deals. I know there is a mod for that haggling aspect, but I just go mod free typically.
Something you could have done, on the turn you capture Lahore, you could have teleported your great general there before making the choice to liberate the city. That way you would've had him in the fray sooner. Not a huge difference, but there is just something about seeing Swordsman that almost have the strength of Infantry.
that science city is amazing! 4 adjacency campus with 5x luxuries that give 1 science each in range, I have never seen that before honestly I would have placed pingala there as soon as possible
Never liked playing as Hungary. Managing and Upgrading an army without going broke/ getting crossbow wiped was so tedious. My only dom victories are nukes, bombers, and carriers
@@Eclipto14 True, but to me they have similar play styles to Hungary, in that they're domination oriented, but are best in the early to mid game. Hence good practice for OP without being as frustrating as Hungary.
You got the envoy in Lahore when you completed the mine on the mercury. Lahore's mission was either a boost to wheel or craftsmanship, which you boosted on the same turn.
Hey @Potatomcwhiskey, ever thought of doing a "saving your disaster" series? I've got a Japan game, saved at industrial, I've played it out twice now and can't seem to keep Brazil or England from pulling the win out from under me.
Hi, Potato! I'm a new viewer that fell in love with the mix of Your soothing voice, reasonable advices and positive attitude. You're doing amazing work for derps that played civ somehow, but didn't ever thought of PLAYING civ. That being said I have 2 questions 1. What is the mode that let's you pin stuff on the map? I found a tool for pinning, but it didn't have any icons (I may be derp) 2. Do you plan ever to do videos like one of Arabia - like series "civ for noobs"? I struggle to get passed emperor difficulty level and I didn't manage to get domination victory although I tried... Anyway, many hugs with power of warm tea and blankets for You!
Mr. PotatoMcWhiskey, you glorious spud, I wish you luck with pulling a win out of this start. If you ever decide to do another modded lets play in the future. might I recommend using JNR's Urban Complexity Collection on the steam workshop combined with the City Lights mod. With these mods together, Civ VI feels different and fresh, and combined with a smarter AI mod, makes the game extra challenging. That and I would like to see your analytical mind break down and min-max these mods.
Thanks Potato! This was literally just what I needed! What a shatty January - now let's play! 😄 Happy weekend! 🥂 I'll edit my comment so it's about the editing later, ed..
have not played as Hungary before, but visited Hungary 2 months ago. First time seeing their unique benefits revolving around the river, and Thermal Baths. Having seen both the Danube River and thermal baths there it makes me wanna play Hungary!
With this title, my immediate thought was, oh.... we're going for the "UA-camr luck Germany" start on a 1 tile snow peninsula.... lmao thanks for the vid, love them!
Well, he baited several of us into clicking, so I guess "mission accomplished" for potato there. Its just ridiculous that you can claim that this is "LITERALLY" your worst start ever.
I think it would have been worth the two turns to move to the plains hills on the far side of the river and settle. The starting spot chosen is just so rubbish. You will end up covering those good hill tiles with districts in order to use Pearl of the Danube. On the other hand, cross the river and cover the flat land with districts and work the hills.
Potato, another great video, thank you for all you do. I have a question bout Hercules. Does locking in the production cost of a planned district matter if you have Hercules to use a charge to build it? My thinking is that it doesn't, as whether it costs 1 production or 1000, Hercules builds a district for 1 charge only, right? Nothing else is affected I think.
It's extremely interesting to see you play. I don't think I'd have dared start a war on deity against an adversary with 3x the science per turn AND 3x the military strength simultaneously (which includes levied units). Looking forward to watching the next video in the series to see how it plays out.
I know it would have been a lot more work for the devs, and I get that the devs want players to compete with other civs for Great People and heroes, but I still wish each civ had its own pool of Great People and heroes to draw from instead of one shared pool. It's a bit immersion-breaking for them to show up in civilizations they didn't live in historically.
Then again, Civ franchise doesn't really emphasize historical accuracy and immersion in the first place, since you play an immortal ruler and all civs can appear regardless of starting era, so I can forgive the lack of immersion. If I want a more immersive experience, there's Old World, which has you play a dynasty of rulers, with each turn being a year, and your governors and generals are procedurally generated from the noble families you assign to your cities and arranging marriages between the families. Only gripe is that I wish you could have more than three families per empire.
When you are so ancient that you have played Civilization 2, both Call To Power games and abandoned Civ after 3rd or 4th: "Several hills next to a river, mostly plains. minimum amount of grassland around = PERFECT LOCATION!" And than few turns later: "Why is Civ6 so hard on city growth and where is my food!?"
Szeged is a University city (the university there is quite big and popular, and big attraction to any companies that move there) so Szeged as science city is very fitting
Recently had my worst start ever. Have you ever played on the Europe map and ended up on the eastern edge? Basically, it's all flat plains (one food, one production) for as far as the eye can see. There are rivers but because this is a pre-Gathering Storm map, they don't flood so the yield never improves. There's also only one luxury resource in the area (mercury), but excess copies can be traded for other luxuries, so that wasn't too much of an issue.
The reason i really love himiko early are in the fact you can get a lot of benefit from her.. 1st you meet citystate hoping 1st meet and get goverment title from owl of minerva. Then go for amani and send to them.. gain suzerain. Recruit himiko.. then send them to that citystate.. gain 2 envoy & 100 faith (so you just go urban planning instead god king for early phanteon). And if you found another city state.. just move amani to them and send himiko again.. and you get a lot of envoy, favor, and potential founding a lot of heroes.
Local Irishman: No yields? Worst start ever! Me in the American Midwest: This is a problem? Me literally every time i play civ6: So ive spawned in a 1-3 tile tundra island on a random generated map. Establishes world peace. Any other player on the coast (even with coastal civs): Re-roll this match!!!! Me as any civ on the coast: Okay combo early (feed-the-world/Gurdwara/DOF) with an eventual seaport and establish Atlantis with a free 10 pops working in the seas/fields while having up to 27 housing. While of course invading my "neighbors" with +31 combat strength navies or infantry. Any questions? No seriously, i love sharing ideas and tested builds with people. As for the editor....the zoom-ins help somewhat (old phone)...
It was a better location, but not by much, and it would have taken him 2 extra turns to actually settle the city. It would have taken him roughly 20-30 turns to make up for the lost time without a city (because of the insane modifiers the AI gets), and in the early game every turn counts. You don't want to delay your first city by a turn unless you can settle a capital with 5+ yields. Delaying by 2 turns can only be justified if you can get 10+ yields from the first 2 worked tiles (so 5+ yield capital and 5+ yield first worked tile) AND you have a great third tile within easy reach as well. This is of course for deity, and it's much more lenient for lower difficulties. Personally I use a mod that gives the starting settler no movement penalties to be able to best settle the capital (all other settlers are unaffected)
@@Jack_Rakan Disagree. Pure production/population wise, spending an extra 2 turns for 1-2 extra production pays off a lot faster than that, generally in the ballpark of 10 turns which is acceptable since it generally means your settler is out faster (if settler is your second build, which it is in my build order).
Wow, this is the only kind of spawn I ever get. I had one good Russian run where I had one Tile completely surrounded by mountain and it was Tundra so had like +7 to science but other than that this is the normal run for me.
It is for everyone. Potato is just using clickbait titles to get more people to watch his videos. I was as disappointed as you when I checked it out, since this start is perfectly playable.
Is it commonplace to settle directly on top of resources? I've always avoided doing that, because in some old version of Civ (or maybe a spinoff?), settling on top of a resource deleted the resource.
Question. At 40:18, he says Exodus of the Evangelists gives 4 Faith per turn, but it doesn’t say that. It says 4 Great Prophet points per turn. And he has 3.2 faith per turn both before and after he takes it. So I’m not missing something, right? And Free Inquiry would have been better because at least it increases the effect of Eurekas?
Honestly, that's not that bad of a start (but still mostly bad). At least you could build farms for growth. I just had a game as Gorgo where about half my tiles were tundra and the rest were plains hills with the exception of one bare grassland hills. So no farming for Gorgo.
I feel like the encampment in the cap would have been better south west of the iron, still adjacent to the industrial zone, doesn’t eat up a hill, and more importantly benefits from the 50% production bonus from being on the other side of the river.
We have an EVEN NEWER Editor guy working on this series, so make sure to leave comments about editing that you liked or disliked!
You have an editor
Did the other one get fried?
@@poilboiler fried lulz
@@poilboiler I was doing a trial with a different editor.
I dont know what the editor could really do, since its somewhat educational.
I do think that there are a bit many “ahh hmm” moments
Potato playing Deity level: everything peaceful and quiet, everyone miles away, two cities by turn 50.
Me playing on Emperor level: Barbs coming from the north. Barbs coming from the south. Gilgamesh is kicking butt on the city-state two hexes away from my city center and shoving all his war carts towards me while Montezuma denounces me because he just plain doesn't like me. My city has a production of -2 and it's turn 10.
This is so painfully true
I’ve skipped over emperor and went straight to deity but I still feel that 🤣
Mood
I feel like people overexaggerate when it comes to how hard deity is. I play on deity all the time and it's honestly not that bad. Worst thing that can happen, and it's pretty rare, is that one random barb camp that spawns endless horsemen on turn 2 lmao..
that's me on lowest difficulty.
Whenever someone says worst start ever it reminds me of the reddit post of a guy playing Inca that spawned into a flood and died before turn 1
That’s one of my favorite images of all time lmfao
@@dinonuggiemonster1288 The link is a URL that will take you to the specific post you are talking about
@@dinonuggiemonster1288 you can find it in the bar at the top of your screen
@@dinonuggiemonster1288 I can’t link the post. UA-cam won’t let me.
@@dinonuggiemonster1288 I don't have the link?
Whenever you don’t take advantage of Hungary’s district river building bonus, a child dies of sadness and part of my soul evaporates
@@thegreatestdane8978 There is Military Economic Diplomatic Y mean yellow ones? Economic ones
@@thegreatestdane8978 I'd honestly just reroll why bother with a shitty start in a deity game
@@mehmeteray1907 Mostly because we like to see potato suffer!
The iron reveal murked Potato's initial production district placement.
Me: that's not good, but also not a terrible start. It's pretty decent.
Potato: it's horrible
Me: it's horrible
@@alex2005z i would have moved 2 tiles to the left and gone for the production bonuses, then got a naval city set up for his second one, would be a slightly slower start but you'd catch up pretty quick with the extra gold to help early game
@@ryandaniels476 That's the tile I was looking at as well.
That's always something to be wary of. Following the leader....right off a cliff.
Honestly it looked pretty good to me (a noob). I mean there are hills so that's already a plus.
@@danshakuimo Seemed like my standard game start location.. maybe twice I have gotten a small abundance, like spawning right on a wonder with a tile next to it that had faith per turn and a lake with + science.. sadly I wasted the start trying to get a pacifist domination victory before I realized cultists have been completely nerfed and that strategy is hardly viable anymore.
The only very best option for me is Himiko, I wanna get her asap, I'd like to marry her, she is literally gamewinning hero... Oh, nevermind I'm going for Hercules
Hercules is a bro
@@DaRealKakarroto bro's before hoes
Himiko is hands-down, my favourite hero, tho I'm also a HUGE Hippolyta simp. The double Siege weapon attack and her Anti-Cav stats make her a fantastic front line unit.
That's a weird way to spell Mulan
Are we seriously simping for fictional and historical character in civ now?
So how much Mercury do you want?
Potato's start: *Y E S*
At least they won't go thirsty.
i love and hate your profile picture
Gru x Kirby = Grurby
His citizens:This water tastes funny..
@@poilboiler Qin Shi Huang: Wait a minute, this isn't immortality potion
Alternate Title: "Starved for Good Tiles! - a PotatoMcWhiskey Production"
It’s the Irish PotatoMcWhiskey Famine
Hungary for yields...
Fun fact: Szeged ('segaed' :P) is an actual university city IRL, mostly known for it's research in the field of biology and medical school. So you got it's function historically correct! Well done PotatoMcWhiskey!
Potato gives me so much knowledge of this game that by the time I play I already don't remember a thing.
(Obviously, haven't seen the whole video yet, or even 99% of it)
I appreciate it when you play games like this, with terrible starts. I find it impossible sometimes to resist restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting, and restarting.... just because there's something I don't like about my starting, starting, starting..... location. It's good to see someone having fun with a bad draw and still making a game of it.
Then again, in my games this would still count as a decent start. Whenever I play any European civs I tend to spawn on a tiny grassland area between a tundra and a desert and that's annoying as hell. Desert is nice to have for the one Petra city, of course, but those are often the size of 3-4 cities in these spawns
"Thats not the end of the world..."-Anytime Potato gets frustrated at civ being civ
Maybe he could swap it for "but that's not the end of the turn" in future just to confuse us.
Pictured above: The Great Potato Famine - 1845, Colorized.
The great McWhiskey Famine
What genius at Firaxis decided that kicking liberator units within city state borders was a good idea?
Potato: "Oh My God, I got access to Sinbad, Sinbad is really really good"
*A few seconds later
Also Potato: "Oh, he has Sinbad, Sinbad is terrible on this map"
Seems like Potato uncovered the Sour Grapes luxury resource.
You can teleport Sinbad to another coastal city if you have one
To be honest, I don't watch your videos, but I do listen to them while I sleep.
There's something peaceful about your voice, so keep up the good work, champ.
Cree word of the day "Food"
mîciwin
Sounds like a McDonald's Sport event promotional burger.
Tansi!
Potato needs to do more videos, so we can get more Cree words!
@@cooolbigguy is that thank you?
@@LAZERAK47V2 Hey hey, we invented and took care of America for centuries before the colonizers came, giving the world chocolate, tomatoes, potatoes, rubber, and a land in balance with massive cities and trade haha
Watching potato civ series at the end of the day whilst lying in bed. Doesn't get much better than that.
Idea: try to get every hero in one civ and assemble the avengers to destroy an enemy city
I dont this is possible on deity or even prince
Might be doable on settler
I think it would be pretty fun if you could get a lot of heroes as ethiopia and rehire them with the huge faith boosts from stave churches. Maybe not all of them, but a lot of them/the best ones. Go for the hanging gardens to get an increased lifespan for heroes. Does the oracle give discounts for faith purchasing heroes? I find that heros kinda fall off in power once you hit the industrial/ atomic era.
Correction heroes fall off when the AI reseaches Steel.
@@lordlordington4159 not all of them fall off as hard though. Himiko doesn't all off at all, and Oya and the Twins want to be fighting units not cities in the first place, so not so much for them either. Maui and Herc can still use their charges just as well in the late game and in the early game,though outside of that they do fall off. Sinbad also cares more about enemy boats/ barb camps than cities anyway, so him falling off depends more on the map and may become useless as soon as the Classical Era hits, or still be amazing in the Future Era.
Beowulf, Mulan, Arthur and Hippolyta do fall off hard with enemy walls though, and Anansi falls off because his scaling is awful, and starting with the Modern Era all he does is double your science and culture output for 6 turns, which is definitely not worth the faith cost. And personally I find Sun Wukong lackluster all game long.
I cried when you dedicated all of the cross-river tiles in pecs to farm triangles instead of districts.
I feel like the Eger location was a mistake. I'd have built it one tile east, so you could Aquaduct to the river and have that strong 1f3p tile to work off of. Then buy the horses and away you go.
i stopped playing this game but you still make entertaining content lmao
You will come back :D
Is he the Spirit of the Law of Civilisation?
Are you joking about the "worst start ever"? Incense on desert, single mountain, no river and other such gems plague my starts.
It was sorta obvious he had a Strategic at the capitol, actually, given there was only 1 Luxury and 2 Bonus visible in 2 rings of in place location. Typically you have 2 Luxuries in that radius if you don't have a Strategic. The surprise was that it was Iron rather than Horses.
A clickbait title if there ever was any. I'd consider this quite the decent start myself, and this guy claiming it is "LITERALLY the worst start ever" is just annoying. I'm used to potato posting clickbait titles by now, but this one was especially so.
@@samuelhakansson6680 I suspect he meant it in a tongue-in-cheek way. It seems like not a great start at first but becomes quite good as the game progresses.
@@michaelharris2178 Might be tongue-in-cheek, but its neither a great nor bad start. Its a completely average start (I'd say slightly good medium term, due to his isolated spawn). Starts like these are very common for me, and something I'll happily play off of on Deity. Isolated snow islands, flat desert (and Desert Folklore taken), not so much. I was kind of expecting such a start when I saw the title, and if tongue-in-cheek, a whole lot better than this.
40:11 lol potato forgot he was in a heroic age and had 3 dedications
spinning intro = gonna be a great video :)
His spawn is the complete opposite of sir ducks Lancelot China spawn
@@alex2005z if I remember when he originally got that start it wasn’t even for a game, but a teaching video. And then he used that start for a china builder/wonder let’s play or stream.
"no production" has 4 hills in his first two rings, 1 of them is a 4 yields starter. "No food" - has fish and wheat.
Why not settle the plains hills and spam out a builder with the 5 prod per turn to farm up the Maize and wheat (buy wheat w gold generation from maize and Cotton). Seems like a decent city, also next to a river for the bonus.
Yeah, it’s really not a bad start, it just requires different priorities for early production.
I have to turn on legendary start location to get one this good.
At least you have water. I keep getting endless featureless plains.
Potatos cities are city states. Militaristic, Cultural and more
I like the black army portrait popping up when you were talking about it in the tech tree
this is actually historically accurate: Buda and Pesc growing to form together Budapest, lol
With the best pinball museum in the world.
Dude your videos are so entertaining and I have learned so much about this game from watching them. I love the way you explain all of your thought processes while being entertaining at the same time. Have spent hours watching your vids and don’t plan to stop 👍
Best Civ content on youtube! The gameplay, commentary, and EDITING is brilliant
Title: literally the worst start ever.
Hercules: AlLoW mE tO iNdRoDuCe MySeLf
What's the difference between mines and quarries? I've been playing this game since it's been out and still don't know.
Mines you put on regular hill tiles. Quarries are put on stone, marble, salt and maybe copper tiles.
I recently watched your guide about the starting position and I'd like to know why haven't you built you build Buda on these hills where you had moved your warrior first? According to that guide, you'd build on plains/hills, next tot the river, in the first ring had one tile with yield 5 and two of yield 4. 3 hills tiles in the first and second rings. Any thoughts?
Oh yes, as a hungarian I will love this
@Krisztián Tóth Is Pécs pronounced like "peach" (Őszibarack) or "peich" (as rhymes with the American English pronunciation of "H")?
@Krisztián Tóth I'm not Hungarian but I'm Georgian, kh dz ch ch sh ts p f(p is a different letter and f is our p)
@Krisztián Tóth so I get what ur saying
@Krisztián Tóth Thanks. I'm usually pretty good at guessing how languages (at least ones that use the Latin alphabet) are pronounced, but Hungarian and Polish tend to confuse me. And Irish...I don't even bother. They invented their language just to piss off and/or embarrass the English.
English: has a pretty easy alphabet
Every other European country: lines and dots (ä, ö, ü, š, è, ě, é...)!
27:28 - (paraphrasing) "By the time my army marches to the Inca Empire, they'll be out of date".
Civ's a weird game.
So you finally got the start location that I basically get all the time. I am eternally suffering in civ 6...
Potato clickbaits a lot. This is a perfectly fine start for your average game. I'd be generally happy with this if I got it. Not perfect, but it has some upsides (good early production, placed in a corner so you dont have to worry about early Deity AI aggression from that side etc.).
Yeah, I always have starts with 2 to 3 enemies surrounding me, either no food or no production...
If I want to do early domination or expand much, the enemies always attack me with crossbowmen way too early... Every domination win I've done was late game
That British guy Ursa Ryan did a great Hungary domination game on deity. The first one was majorly buffed because he added 18 city states but the second one was straight up yet even more dominant. He’s not as good as McWhiskey - nobody is except maybe GameMechanic - but he’s really good and I pull for all Civ 6 players to be able to make somewhat of a living or add some good income each month from playing.
All very good but aint got nothin on CivTrader6
That's a small hope of mine! I currently play civ on Xbox and plan to swap to pc soon and up my streaming as able. I've got a lot of people asking me to put it on UA-cam and I've been thinking about it, life's just been busy. I love how Mcwhiskey plays cause it always seems logical OR maximum chaos. Lol
Who else just can’t believe how good he is at this game
Just play and plan to git gud
It’s all thanks to his new editor 🤭 the cut reel is full of swears and cussing 🤣
The best thing you ever taught was the 20x conversion for gold per turn to raw gold. I was giving myself carpal tunnel clicking up and down haggling for deals. I know there is a mod for that haggling aspect, but I just go mod free typically.
> no food > civ of choice is literally Hung(a)ry
Something you could have done, on the turn you capture Lahore, you could have teleported your great general there before making the choice to liberate the city. That way you would've had him in the fray sooner. Not a huge difference, but there is just something about seeing Swordsman that almost have the strength of Infantry.
that science city is amazing! 4 adjacency campus with 5x luxuries that give 1 science each in range, I have never seen that before honestly I would have placed pingala there as soon as possible
Everytime I've been opening youtube this past month, it's this video that always showed up on my feed.
Never liked playing as Hungary. Managing and Upgrading an army without going broke/ getting crossbow wiped was so tedious. My only dom victories are nukes, bombers, and carriers
Might be worth trying early dom as Sumeria or mid dom as Byzantium. Those are the two civs I’ve had the most luck with before the late game.
Never use YOUR army as hungary, that's the trick. Only use city state troops. They're almost free to upgrade.
Levy levy levy
@@ZeteticPhilosopher Byzantium is literally broken OP
@@Eclipto14 True, but to me they have similar play styles to Hungary, in that they're domination oriented, but are best in the early to mid game. Hence good practice for OP without being as frustrating as Hungary.
You got the envoy in Lahore when you completed the mine on the mercury. Lahore's mission was either a boost to wheel or craftsmanship, which you boosted on the same turn.
That start reminds me of my average start tbh.
"My worst start ever"
this is legit my spawn every time lmao
Wait, but literally all my starting locations look like that
Hey @Potatomcwhiskey, ever thought of doing a "saving your disaster" series? I've got a Japan game, saved at industrial, I've played it out twice now and can't seem to keep Brazil or England from pulling the win out from under me.
Hi, Potato!
I'm a new viewer that fell in love with the mix of Your soothing voice, reasonable advices and positive attitude. You're doing amazing work for derps that played civ somehow, but didn't ever thought of PLAYING civ.
That being said I have 2 questions
1. What is the mode that let's you pin stuff on the map? I found a tool for pinning, but it didn't have any icons (I may be derp)
2. Do you plan ever to do videos like one of Arabia - like series "civ for noobs"? I struggle to get passed emperor difficulty level and I didn't manage to get domination victory although I tried...
Anyway, many hugs with power of warm tea and blankets for You!
The pins are part of the game near the bottom left of the screen not a mod or mode :)
Mr. PotatoMcWhiskey, you glorious spud, I wish you luck with pulling a win out of this start. If you ever decide to do another modded lets play in the future. might I recommend using JNR's Urban Complexity Collection on the steam workshop combined with the City Lights mod. With these mods together, Civ VI feels different and fresh, and combined with a smarter AI mod, makes the game extra challenging. That and I would like to see your analytical mind break down and min-max these mods.
Thanks Potato! This was literally just what I needed! What a shatty January - now let's play! 😄 Happy weekend! 🥂 I'll edit my comment so it's about the editing later, ed..
Wow this is really cool and EPIC. Love your vids!
One turn after getting the art of war
Potato: So amazing how just a little bit more information changes how you plan your war.
Gotta love knowledge
For whatever reason, this just showed up on my feed, 2 days late but ok. Great job with the edit, new editor person.
Whenever a watch your videos I get your sub notice in my head constantly... "boil em mash em stick em in a stew"
have not played as Hungary before, but visited Hungary 2 months ago. First time seeing their unique benefits revolving around the river, and Thermal Baths. Having seen both the Danube River and thermal baths there it makes me wanna play Hungary!
Editing has improved since last i saw you. Muuch better. Keep it up!
the lizard over Potato's laugh is iconic
With this title, my immediate thought was, oh.... we're going for the "UA-camr luck Germany" start on a 1 tile snow peninsula.... lmao thanks for the vid, love them!
Well, he baited several of us into clicking, so I guess "mission accomplished" for potato there. Its just ridiculous that you can claim that this is "LITERALLY" your worst start ever.
I think it would have been worth the two turns to move to the plains hills on the far side of the river and settle. The starting spot chosen is just so rubbish. You will end up covering those good hill tiles with districts in order to use Pearl of the Danube. On the other hand, cross the river and cover the flat land with districts and work the hills.
"Szeged" is pronounced like "Seged", not "Say-zid"
And it is a great city for culture and science like in this game 😁
Potato, another great video, thank you for all you do. I have a question bout Hercules. Does locking in the production cost of a planned district matter if you have Hercules to use a charge to build it? My thinking is that it doesn't, as whether it costs 1 production or 1000, Hercules builds a district for 1 charge only, right? Nothing else is affected I think.
Looking forward to more. Glad to see Civ stuff on the channel again.
It's extremely interesting to see you play. I don't think I'd have dared start a war on deity against an adversary with 3x the science per turn AND 3x the military strength simultaneously (which includes levied units). Looking forward to watching the next video in the series to see how it plays out.
Are we going to ignore that Inca made Simbad in his little 4 tiles paddle?
"Now that I see this mountain range here..."
-said no general ever.
you are a very good Player! great content. best Regards from Austria
I know it would have been a lot more work for the devs, and I get that the devs want players to compete with other civs for Great People and heroes, but I still wish each civ had its own pool of Great People and heroes to draw from instead of one shared pool. It's a bit immersion-breaking for them to show up in civilizations they didn't live in historically.
Then again, Civ franchise doesn't really emphasize historical accuracy and immersion in the first place, since you play an immortal ruler and all civs can appear regardless of starting era, so I can forgive the lack of immersion.
If I want a more immersive experience, there's Old World, which has you play a dynasty of rulers, with each turn being a year, and your governors and generals are procedurally generated from the noble families you assign to your cities and arranging marriages between the families. Only gripe is that I wish you could have more than three families per empire.
When you are so ancient that you have played Civilization 2, both Call To Power games and abandoned Civ after 3rd or 4th:
"Several hills next to a river, mostly plains. minimum amount of grassland around = PERFECT LOCATION!" And than few turns later: "Why is Civ6 so hard on city growth and where is my food!?"
1:30 Why not settle by the 1 food 3 production woods? It's not like you really want a harbor anyway and it puts you within range of more chops.
this is so nice to watch, when i play i almost never end up making troops and going to war so early
"Hercules is too strong" [nodding, taking notes]
Szeged is a University city (the university there is quite big and popular, and big attraction to any companies that move there) so Szeged as science city is very fitting
Hungary crosses a mountain range and invades into fertile territory - civ imitates history.
Why Is the campus a +4 in sgezed? Thanks
When his "worst start ever" is 10 times better then your average xD
Recently had my worst start ever. Have you ever played on the Europe map and ended up on the eastern edge? Basically, it's all flat plains (one food, one production) for as far as the eye can see. There are rivers but because this is a pre-Gathering Storm map, they don't flood so the yield never improves. There's also only one luxury resource in the area (mercury), but excess copies can be traded for other luxuries, so that wasn't too much of an issue.
I love the editing a lot keep it up :0)
I remember u playing Hungary recently, would’ve maybe liked to see someone new, but tbh I watch all your vids anyway 😂 keep making great content :)
The reason i really love himiko early are in the fact you can get a lot of benefit from her.. 1st you meet citystate hoping 1st meet and get goverment title from owl of minerva. Then go for amani and send to them.. gain suzerain. Recruit himiko.. then send them to that citystate.. gain 2 envoy & 100 faith (so you just go urban planning instead god king for early phanteon). And if you found another city state.. just move amani to them and send himiko again.. and you get a lot of envoy, favor, and potential founding a lot of heroes.
Honestly that’s how 75% of my starts look, thank god for the restart button
Nice video. Like the editing and the stuff you explain. Are you also going to upload multiplayer stuff?
5:40 How did you kill that barb unit AND raze the barb camp in the same turn?
Local Irishman: No yields? Worst start ever!
Me in the American Midwest: This is a problem?
Me literally every time i play civ6: So ive spawned in a 1-3 tile tundra island on a random generated map. Establishes world peace.
Any other player on the coast (even with coastal civs): Re-roll this match!!!!
Me as any civ on the coast: Okay combo early (feed-the-world/Gurdwara/DOF) with an eventual seaport and establish Atlantis with a free 10 pops working in the seas/fields while having up to 27 housing. While of course invading my "neighbors" with +31 combat strength navies or infantry.
Any questions? No seriously, i love sharing ideas and tested builds with people.
As for the editor....the zoom-ins help somewhat (old phone)...
2:09 into the video: OKay, I want to go back and start a new match. Ty!
Me: Oof, 47 min video. Maybe I'll watch the first 5 minutes...
Potato: ... and I'll see you guys next time. Bye-bye.
Me: what, what just happened?
Why wasn't the hill where the warrior was at the start a better settling option?
It was a better location, but not by much, and it would have taken him 2 extra turns to actually settle the city. It would have taken him roughly 20-30 turns to make up for the lost time without a city (because of the insane modifiers the AI gets), and in the early game every turn counts. You don't want to delay your first city by a turn unless you can settle a capital with 5+ yields. Delaying by 2 turns can only be justified if you can get 10+ yields from the first 2 worked tiles (so 5+ yield capital and 5+ yield first worked tile) AND you have a great third tile within easy reach as well. This is of course for deity, and it's much more lenient for lower difficulties. Personally I use a mod that gives the starting settler no movement penalties to be able to best settle the capital (all other settlers are unaffected)
@@Jack_Rakan Disagree. Pure production/population wise, spending an extra 2 turns for 1-2 extra production pays off a lot faster than that, generally in the ballpark of 10 turns which is acceptable since it generally means your settler is out faster (if settler is your second build, which it is in my build order).
Wow, this is the only kind of spawn I ever get. I had one good Russian run where I had one Tile completely surrounded by mountain and it was Tundra so had like +7 to science but other than that this is the normal run for me.
It is for everyone. Potato is just using clickbait titles to get more people to watch his videos. I was as disappointed as you when I checked it out, since this start is perfectly playable.
One thing to note, breaking a promise generates 100 grievances, so loyalty might be an issue in further conquests.
Is it commonplace to settle directly on top of resources? I've always avoided doing that, because in some old version of Civ (or maybe a spinoff?), settling on top of a resource deleted the resource.
Didn't do it in V or VI so not sure what you played.
Civ 3?
am so happy you posted!! Love your videos even !
Question. At 40:18, he says Exodus of the Evangelists gives 4 Faith per turn, but it doesn’t say that. It says 4 Great Prophet points per turn. And he has 3.2 faith per turn both before and after he takes it. So I’m not missing something, right?
And Free Inquiry would have been better because at least it increases the effect of Eurekas?
Greetings from Germany 👋 wish you all the best, random people.
Thanks! Good times to you too, from Spain.
Skál! From Iceland
Saudações Joviais from Brazil!
Same from Wisconsin - basically the American version of Germany except with cheese.
@@lucasharvey8990 I've never been in Wisconsin, and don't know if you've been in Germany, but if you haven't been in Germany, I would doubt that
Honestly, that's not that bad of a start (but still mostly bad). At least you could build farms for growth. I just had a game as Gorgo where about half my tiles were tundra and the rest were plains hills with the exception of one bare grassland hills. So no farming for Gorgo.
It's an obvious clickbait title once you are so dumb (like me) and clicked to see what was so bad. This start is perfectly fine.
I feel like the encampment in the cap would have been better south west of the iron, still adjacent to the industrial zone, doesn’t eat up a hill, and more importantly benefits from the 50% production bonus from being on the other side of the river.
No shoes, no shirt and I still get service.