This is probably one of the best reviews for any product in any field on UA-cam, genuinely well done! And I love your accent dude! Very very good. I’m buying one of these because you have covered it so well. I was wondering about build quality but you have demonstrated it beautifully. Thank you.
Hey Affy thanks so much man! I'm a controller junkie myself so it's really hard to contain my excitement when I find a good controller. Even my accent becomes more pronounced hahaha. Keep grooving man, you will have a good time with this one :)
I just bought one also hours ago after watching this video... I was going for other options, but the seller point was this: @05:38 . I immediately stopped my search and went straight to Amazon.... Even in this 2021 it looks like it is still the best budget option to attain this customization level, way to go iCon!!! 👍 👍 👍
@07:32 when you go back to the previous VST, do the faders move back to the last CC position in that specified VST....? each time you change VST, do the faders get back to where they were so you can continue using it?
Hi very good hint video... Everything works fine with mine except that I can't change the "Channel" (the upper right buttons on the device). There is no function. The light blinks but no changing channels....all the rest works perfectly also changing the Banks... I work with CUBASE 10.5 on Windows...Help is much appreciated..
That's exactly why we love our controllers! The small size of it really makes it versatile. On this production room we have it paired with a CC121 so when it's on our master keyboard we still have the transport for our engineer. Both are small and work together brilliantly.
So you have to turn it off and on to go from the instrument/plug-in mode to the standard mixing mode? Or is there a quicker interchange? Great demo by the way!
I have a question! Can you select multiple channels at once to record multiple Audio tracks at once? I do that all the time in cubase selecting holding command on keyboard and clicking. Please let me know great review!
Hi. I just picked one up and using Cubase 12. Curious if you have upgraded to Cubase 12 and if this controller is working properly. Unfortunately mine is whacked out! Thanks
Thank you very much for the review. Quite interested how this now works with Ableton Live, Adobe Audition and Presonus Studio One. I understand that it's dependent on the implement of the Mackie Control or HUI and what not but I hope Icon looked into it.
As a follow up question, is there a quicker way to switch 'Modes' without turning the Unit Off then On again ang choosing the mode? Would be great to easily switch between DAW control (faders, transport, navigation) and then switch to the User defined mapping. And how many User Modes can be created? Once again, thank you very much.
Looks great. Is it 2 full 2 way communication? For example If i have Ch 7 active on the controller (bank 1), and i mouse click on audio fader channel 25 in Cubase, will the Controller automatically change to the new bank of 8 (so from channel bank 1 to bank 4?)
@@BosomNogomPanjIzvali becouse choosing between stereo and mono tracks isnt accessible as eazy as in other DAWS , also FL studio already gives u undefined tracks and sounds need to be added to the mixer (in every other daw , for every added track u get an assigned channel in which u can choose with one click will it be stereo or mono)fruity is good but not good for beginners since its not so eazy to define what is stereo and what is mono and fruity has always been a beatmakers daw , ive been using it since Fruity loops 3 and now i have 20 original but still i use studio one or such for mix and master .....
@@southsidetouchproductions7320 I've got 9 years of experience in FL studio, but sometimes I use Studio One for guitar tracking, and sometimes I'm not. I mean, FL studio, in my oppinion, is pretty much a perfect daw, but not for begginers I' reckon... And if those 2 reasons are the best excuse for not using it, then I'm sticking to it to the bone haha xD Thanks for the reply, bless you.
BosomNogomPanjIzvali its not an excuse to not use it , its an excuse for beginners , i luv fl studio :D , and ill always use it for beatmaking and song arrangement , but for mixing studio one is for me the most stable , and it dosent get slow after adding lots of vsts , when i use fl i use it with native plugins(their plugins)and its beautiful :)
"hey there, nice video! I have an issue with my Icon: I can't seem to use the record and mixer buttons for their normal function, when I'm in "User Defined Mode". How can I reassign in Cubase the record button to make it pop up the mixer window? It works only in Cubase mode!
Hi, @doctor mix , i,m looking around for an honest review using the platform m in ableton live 9 or live 10 . I can't find anything on it ! Can you review this controller inside live 9 or live 10 ?
If you change the synth envelope in the software or change another parameter with the same fader and then switch back does the motorized fader change position or does that function only work on track faders?
ImYou sure you've dealt with this.. you can save these as presets, and the unit will always turn on to the chosen default. You won't have to reset it for your Daw, as far as each control.
Hey Dr. Mix. I've just seen that this thing even exists. However, on Amazon there are four reviews: 2 one stars! , one three stars, and one five stars.The poor reviews would kill it for live use. But you guys love it and recommend. What am I to do? Is there any chance of an update video with how it's done over time? This could be a definite possibility for my end of year list. (Hint - Ho! Ho! Ho!)
Hi Doctor Mix, your video sheds a whole new light on the use of these faders! Now I am torn. I prefer the layout and functionality of the iCon Nano (has only 1 fader), so here are my questions: 1 - Are Platform Nano and M+ exactly the same (except the missing faders on the Nano)? Info on this is rather confusing. 2 - Could the Nano be hooked up with the extension unit (Platform X)? That way I would have best of both worlds. 3 - The touch sensitive faders will speed up workflow (I presume), because when you touch a fader, that particular track is immediately and automatically selected. Is that correct? This would make the M+ faster than the Nano, right? How would that work on the Nano?
Hi! I have a question about this thing - can you switch between User Mode and Mackie Control/HUI mode without rebooting the controller? I would love to use this sometimes as a motorised control surface for my mixer (in Cubase) and then fluently go into MIDI mode, to send CCs to VSTis. If I had to reboot everytime, that would be a dealbreaker for me... The only solution would be to assing some of the faders in User Mode to eg currently selected channel's volume. But then - will the fader follow changes in the mixer, or stay still? If latter - that would be so much for "motorised" :) Cheers!
Trying to set up Platform M+ faders with Kontakt 5. Vibrato, dynamic and expression. But it seems as if kontakt 5 wont update the new data from the platform M software. Any faders that I touch or try to assign to a CC just gets shown as active CC 117 on MIDI Automation and wont work. Despite the new saved and sent data to the device. Please help
Does this controler update it's selected track from cubase to controller? I worded that terribly. I mean when I click on a track in Cubase with my mouse (for some reason) with the the controller update but then jumping so that the middle or first fader is that which I selected in Cubase?
Amazing review as always! Can't find the difference between this and the previous one though (Platform M) 1) do you know what the difference are? 2) do you know if in ableton everything works as it should? I know it can behave as a mackie control, but there are mixed informations as it works perfectly or not
Hey Simone thanks! We haven't tried the Platform M but the difference seems to be that the "+" seems to allow multiple units to be daisy chained with each other. Check the back for the connections and you will see the differences ;) We haven't tried this with Ableton yet as in our main production room we use Cubase, but we do use Ableton so we can try it out :) Don't see why it would have problems as Mackie Control works fine with Cubase.
I think Platform M didn't come with a mapping software as you described here for M+. I hope I'm wrong, but if ever hopefully an update for the M is due. Daisy chaining is cool, but what if one just needs the 8 plus master fader? I'm really hoping for a tighter integration with other DAWs, Ableton Live, Adobe Audition, Presonus Studio One. Hardware improvements are welcome, hopefully Icon delivers on the software end.
Hey Man, merry Christmas!! Have you had time to check any major problems with ableton? I know for now it's…probably just a one person question but I'm sure many would be grateful if you could test it
Platform M+ has connections on the backside for four additional modules (say new Platform B etc). It also has another colors/LEDs and has ability to fine tune separate faders speed.
this is nice but when I update my M+ via the app to have it all send cc messages, then create a custom script nothing happens :( was hoping to using the mackie functionality but just set cc'd myself through the script. Do you just keep it on user defined mode when you boot it up the next time and select Mackie Control?
How, to do ,Bidirectional to platform; So for example, DAW has recorded all the MIDI CC, and when it's playing, how do you back to PLATFORM and get the electric FADER running
How do you sync the faders to your daws automation mine isnt auto linking. Using logic pro, and set on #3 mode, is this still the correct number for logic? Mixer also isnt coming up when i press mixer, and really need a tutorial on how to link plugin parameters to the faders like cutoff, resonance, etc. and also, why cant you select more than one track with the buttons but when u select say 4 in the daw all 4 show as selected?
I'm after a control surface for dedicated MIDI CC, it looks like the Icon can do this but only in MIDI mode or User Defined mode, and in that situation Transport Controls are all disabled. It seems its strength is DAW mode, not MIDI mode.
The Icon has only a User Defined Mode (with MCP Protocol). There you can map all MCP functions to the buttons, so you have all transport controls available.
the buttons are triggering notes like A6 and triggers my samples. Super annoying. I disable the " in All midi" for the icon and it works but now my faders wont work without "All on" I had it working perfectly last night. Im guessing something is routed wrong? If so what could if be? Faders 1-3 I assigned them to CC's modulations, expression and breathe. Anyone got any ideas?
@@magicmulder Ok, but ... this video is from two years ago. I have seen other videos where recently many users complain that they cannot do this, especially with Cubase, despite doing the procedure correctly. Apparently the problem is due to recent firmware updates, which cause problems. I wanted to buy Platform Nano, but I know that the Nano's fader cannot be mapped. I have asked iCon technical support, but they seem to have serious problems of understanding (and perhaps also of competence). The first time they gave an answer that had nothing to do with my question. Then they replied "It is not possible to use user mode with a Mackie Control DAW without issues. Please use the Mackie Control mode and MIDI learn the controls you like to use". So I replied that if I can't map the Platform Nano fader it's useless for me to buy it, so I have to buy M +. Their response was "Please avoid Platform as it is not possible to remap the faders with different CC values in Cubase". I then replied again "Which Platform? Nano? M +? Both? Because I've seen videos on UA-cam where M + faders can be remapped in Cubase. So if it can't be done with Platform Nano, then I might buy Platform M + ". And they never answered me again. They seem really unable to give a clear and exhaustive answer .... if this is their technical support, I think it is better that I think of the Behringer X-Touch Compact.
@@magicmulder answer by the icon's technical support: "As said the Platform Series (all) does not support mapping CC data to Faders and working with Mackie Control DAW´s. I would advise to not get a Platform if you like to do what you have described as the firmware is not capable of doing this right". And this, even if the operation manual of Platform and iMap software (and videos in the icon official channel) says that is possible. So it's no more possible. This is not fair by Icon. I will avoid every icon's product.
Hi Doctor Mix, I am using this controller on mac, but it seems doesn't work with user define mode... I set my first fader to MIDI CC 1 and send data to my controller, but it always control pitch bend... while I was playing... Do you know how to fix it or how you set it up? Thx!!
Hello Claudio!! Cubase user here! I want to buy a controller with motorized fader(s), cause i really want to make my life easier! So i can’t deside which one to buy, between cc121 and icon platform m+! I’m thinking about icon cause i’ll be able to use many faders at the same time, and for it’s many buttons, while for eq’s i’ll use my mpd218’s knobs! On the other hand, i’m not really sure but i believe that, cc121 will be more acurate in volume and eq’s, since its a dedicated device! Or not? Also it has that really usefull a.i. knob, the bypass buttons etc! Any suggestions? By the way, your videos helped me a lot, so thank you for that! Thank you for your time and sorry for my poor english!
I am afraid it won't do this. I know it would be extremely cool and we would want this feature as well, but I guess it's more of a midi limitation. When you record the CC messages, they get transmitted to the software instrument and not to the controller anymore. The bi-communication which also moves the motorized faders works only in DAW mode :)
@Doctor Mix - Professional touring musician here, newbie in audio engineering/production (Cubase). I am trying to chose between the Steinberg CC121 and the Platform M+. I like both (also due to the portability for while I am on tour). I think the CC121 will help make Cubase easier for a beginner and that AI knob is brilliant, but I like the versatility (you demonstrated) and the faders of the Platform M+. Unfortunately I can not have both, so ... which one would you recommend (in 2020)? (I already own a Softube Console 1)
why not go for a Zoom Livetrak L8 or L12? if you are a touring musician, this could kill a few birds with one stone. can act as a live sound mixer with separate monitor mixes, can record your sets, and has a built-in audio interface and is class compliant. Since it's MIDI it'll act as a mixing control surface for your DAW. I'm torn between one of these and the Presonus Faderport8. I'm just not sure about the repairability and maintenance of the motorized faders on any of these consumer targetted controllers. in the studios, we would have to dismantle parts of the entire mixing console to clean and oil the fader slides and motors quite regularly.
@@nickloss2377 Hi Nick, thanks for your suggestions. I have indeed looked into these Zoom devices. I have a small Zoom recorder and I think it is very good. You are right, it would fulfill several functions: audio interface, mixer and DAW midi controller, etc. It just seems that it is not really well, or optimally suited as a DAW controller, which is what I am looking for in order to speed up workflow, ease and precision. Also I found the built quality disappointing and "plasticky". The Presonus Faderport8 is an interesting option, but it seems to have several compatibility issues with Cubase. Although the Faderport8 seems to be a good option, it is also a bit on the large side, and I like to travel light. Both the Platform M+ and CC121 are small enough to bring along. I also just bought a Softube Console 1. I haven't installed it yet, but I am exited about going to get to work with it. It is a smart device! I recommend it (based on the numerous video's I watched about it).
@@fantomie7569 Everything works fine with version 2.05. The beta 2.09 was part of the problem. But the other problem was a lesser known function menu in Cubase. Had to switch from Mackie to Compatibility. All fine now.
@@TheGARCK Thanks Gareth K Music . I installed the 2.03 version (was on the website) switch to compatibility mode but the problem still exists. What version of cubase do you have? I've got the 10.5.
Hey Andrei, yes you can! Instead of the LCD screen the LEDs on the channels indicate which DAW you have selected. User Defined mode is LED 7 (channel 7 ) hope this helps ;)
I recently purchased Icon Qcon Pro G2 and it’s been working great. I have one problem though and it would be great if someone could help me. I’m using Cubase 11 / 12 Pro and I have its max fader volume set up at +12db, instead of +6db. The problem is that when I physically push faders on my Qcon controller to max, they only go to +10db max in Cubase. It doesn’t seem to recognize my +12db preference. If I set up Cubase max fader volume to +6db, it works fine with the controller. My controller is set up as Mackie device, and every other function seem to be working correctly. How do I fix this? Thanks in advance
hi doc mix I use M+ in Ableton mostly and sometimes cubase but I'm wondering can one mute several tracks at a time .I often find myself going back to the mouse highly and right clicking .anyone with help would be appreciated
This is probably one of the best reviews for any product in any field on UA-cam, genuinely well done! And I love your accent dude! Very very good. I’m buying one of these because you have covered it so well. I was wondering about build quality but you have demonstrated it beautifully. Thank you.
Just ordered mine. Can’t wait to get it!! Thanks again!
Hey Affy thanks so much man! I'm a controller junkie myself so it's really hard to contain my excitement when I find a good controller. Even my accent becomes more pronounced hahaha. Keep grooving man, you will have a good time with this one :)
@@ekimnamtnuts good to see you here mate :-)
@@bindibhumbra1659 Hi Bindi! See we have the same interests!
Doctor Mix you need to hear Affy's accent too!!
What a clever little device. It does a lot more than I thought it would!
I can't believe it can be this good
BEST REVIEW
Killer and thorough demo. Top stuff!
nicely done!
Bought one on the strength of this video DOM !
I just bought one also hours ago after watching this video... I was going for other options, but the seller point was this: @05:38 .
I immediately stopped my search and went straight to Amazon.... Even in this 2021 it looks like it is still the best budget option to attain this customization level, way to go iCon!!! 👍 👍 👍
Great video the best review ever , incredible way to share info thanks was really helpull
It's the voice of Dom Sigalas! Great!😀
@07:32 when you go back to the previous VST, do the faders move back to the last CC position in that specified VST....? each time you change VST, do the faders get back to where they were so you can continue using it?
Hi very good hint video... Everything works fine with mine except that I can't change the "Channel" (the upper right buttons on the device). There is no function. The light blinks but no changing channels....all the rest works perfectly also changing the Banks... I work with CUBASE 10.5 on Windows...Help is much appreciated..
AND you have the Slimblade roller ball. An excellent combination.
3:05 - very nice faders!
Thank you for a great reeview!
Very neat video, thanks! Useful.
you just answered all my questions about this product. thanks for the video
What a review! I'm sold! :)
Hi, which control surface would you recommend for Logic Pro. thanks.
Cool this video bro.
Do you really need the display on the device? Or can you get by without it?
nice one... but can you controll the plugins inside the mixer of cubase?
Thank you!
Thanks man, you sold me on it. :)
Hi Dom... funny to hear your voice on another site.
great Review and demo, thanks!
Thanks for this great video!
Great video! I have a question about the encoders. Are they stepped/with detents or are the smooth with no detents?
How about Fl Studio
I think I'm sold on this, great little tool to have that gets me off my mouse.
That's exactly why we love our controllers! The small size of it really makes it versatile. On this production room we have it paired with a CC121 so when it's on our master keyboard we still have the transport for our engineer. Both are small and work together brilliantly.
Great review.. I want one!!
hello which music production program do you use? which one do you recommend? your fan from Italy🇮🇹👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾
So you have to turn it off and on to go from the instrument/plug-in mode to the standard mixing mode? Or is there a quicker interchange? Great demo by the way!
i would relly like to know that... and i think it is possible on the G2 with the VST button.
Yeah I would love to know the answer to this question.
Please If anyone knows update us on this query. It's a deal breaker if doesn't have a quick option for that IMO.
I have a question! Can you select multiple channels at once to record multiple Audio tracks at once? I do that all the time in cubase selecting holding command on keyboard and clicking. Please let me know great review!
Hi. I just picked one up and using Cubase 12. Curious if you have upgraded to Cubase 12 and if this controller is working properly. Unfortunately mine is whacked out! Thanks
Thank you very much for the review. Quite interested how this now works with Ableton Live, Adobe Audition and Presonus Studio One. I understand that it's dependent on the implement of the Mackie Control or HUI and what not but I hope Icon looked into it.
As a follow up question, is there a quicker way to switch 'Modes' without turning the Unit Off then On again ang choosing the mode? Would be great to easily switch between DAW control (faders, transport, navigation) and then switch to the User defined mapping. And how many User Modes can be created? Once again, thank you very much.
Can I assign track groups in protools to the faders on this controller? i.e all drums on one fader, guitars on another
Looks great. Is it 2 full 2 way communication? For example If i have Ch 7 active on the controller (bank 1), and i mouse click on audio fader channel 25 in Cubase, will the Controller automatically change to the new bank of 8 (so from channel bank 1 to bank 4?)
I love how when ever anyone mentions a list of "popular" DAWs, FL Studio is never mentioned lmao.
Yeah, and why is that?
@@BosomNogomPanjIzvali becouse choosing between stereo and mono tracks isnt accessible as eazy as in other DAWS , also FL studio already gives u undefined tracks and sounds need to be added to the mixer (in every other daw , for every added track u get an assigned channel in which u can choose with one click will it be stereo or mono)fruity is good but not good for beginners since its not so eazy to define what is stereo and what is mono and fruity has always been a beatmakers daw , ive been using it since Fruity loops 3 and now i have 20 original but still i use studio one or such for mix and master .....
@@southsidetouchproductions7320 I've got 9 years of experience in FL studio, but sometimes I use Studio One for guitar tracking, and sometimes I'm not. I mean, FL studio, in my oppinion, is pretty much a perfect daw, but not for begginers I' reckon... And if those 2 reasons are the best excuse for not using it, then I'm sticking to it to the bone haha xD
Thanks for the reply, bless you.
BosomNogomPanjIzvali its not an excuse to not use it , its an excuse for beginners , i luv fl studio :D , and ill always use it for beatmaking and song arrangement , but for mixing studio one is for me the most stable , and it dosent get slow after adding lots of vsts , when i use fl i use it with native plugins(their plugins)and its beautiful :)
the disrespect!!
Awesome video, do you know if there's a way to access a send other than the first (A send) with the Flip function when in HUI?
Is the incoder knob also used as a gain knob?
thanks for this video - for live is there a way to move past the first 8 channels and the motorised faders update?
Do I need the screen to select user defined mode? Or is there some other kind of feedback I can follow to make the right choice?
"hey there, nice video! I have an issue with my Icon: I can't seem to use the record and mixer buttons for their normal function, when I'm in "User Defined Mode". How can I reassign in Cubase the record button to make it pop up the mixer window? It works only in Cubase mode!
Hi, @doctor mix , i,m looking around for an honest review using the platform m in ableton live 9 or live 10 . I can't find anything on it ! Can you review this controller inside live 9 or live 10 ?
could you send me the app please? The links on their website are not working. thx
If you change the synth envelope in the software or change another parameter with the same fader and then switch back does the motorized fader change position or does that function only work on track faders?
How quick it is to switch from USER DEFINED mode back to normal set up or do you have to re set it all? This info would be very helpful!! Thanks!
ImYou sure you've dealt with this.. you can save these as presets, and the unit will always turn on to the chosen default. You won't have to reset it for your Daw, as far as each control.
Can you control your plugins (channel strips and so on) with this unit? With Bigger Icon it is possible.
Great review. Do you need to buy any additional software to have this work or does it work right out of the box with pro tools?
hi possible to use it with cubasis app on ipad pro?
Is this lil' guy compatible with fl studio ?
Maljean Thimothé haha I don’t know man I just want a board with lots of faders instead of using my digital mixer
When you use IMAP what does the D2 display show? The video doesn’t show this. Are there text labels for the cc’s or just numeric values?
Hey Dr. Mix. I've just seen that this thing even exists. However, on Amazon there are four reviews: 2 one stars! , one three stars, and one five stars.The poor reviews would kill it for live use. But you guys love it and recommend. What am I to do? Is there any chance of an update video with how it's done over time? This could be a definite possibility for my end of year list. (Hint - Ho! Ho! Ho!)
Do the rotary encoders automap to plugin parameters?
Can you control inserts and sends plugins ect... using Mackie Control?
Hi Doctor Mix, your video sheds a whole new light on the use of these faders! Now I am torn. I prefer the layout and functionality of the iCon Nano (has only 1 fader), so here are my questions:
1 - Are Platform Nano and M+ exactly the same (except the missing faders on the Nano)? Info on this is rather confusing.
2 - Could the Nano be hooked up with the extension unit (Platform X)? That way I would have best of both worlds.
3 - The touch sensitive faders will speed up workflow (I presume), because when you touch a fader, that particular track is immediately and automatically selected. Is that correct? This would make the M+ faster than the Nano, right? How would that work on the Nano?
Interesting questions!!
How do you choose the mode if you didn't buy the screen?
Yo! AVID/Digidesign...you watching?!.
hell naw lol
will it work with MOTU Digital Performer?
how about the platform nano ? is it worth to buy ?
Can you tell how sturdy this still is after some use? Any problems at all with faders or buttons? Thanks
Any updates on this at all?
So customization would be necessary for Cakewalk by Bandlab?
do i need this display?
So, in user defined mode, can I assign buttons to be used as drum pads?
Hi! I have a question about this thing - can you switch between User Mode and Mackie Control/HUI mode without rebooting the controller? I would love to use this sometimes as a motorised control surface for my mixer (in Cubase) and then fluently go into MIDI mode, to send CCs to VSTis.
If I had to reboot everytime, that would be a dealbreaker for me... The only solution would be to assing some of the faders in User Mode to eg currently selected channel's volume.
But then - will the fader follow changes in the mixer, or stay still? If latter - that would be so much for "motorised" :)
Cheers!
Am considering this and the faderport 8, any thoughts?
Hi I want to know if this product works with Fl Studio 12 Doctor mix
What does Flip do?
Can I manipulate any plugin with the plattaform M encords?
Can the icon expansion be used without the main control surface as midi controller?
How come I have the Icon QCon Pro G2 and don't get any Reaper option ?
Trying to set up Platform M+ faders with Kontakt 5. Vibrato, dynamic and expression. But it seems as if kontakt 5 wont update the new data from the platform M software.
Any faders that I touch or try to assign to a CC just gets shown as active CC 117 on MIDI Automation and wont work. Despite the new saved and sent data to the device.
Please help
Does this controler update it's selected track from cubase to controller? I worded that terribly. I mean when I click on a track in Cubase with my mouse (for some reason) with the the controller update but then jumping so that the middle or first fader is that which I selected in Cubase?
Amazing review as always!
Can't find the difference between this and the previous one though (Platform M)
1) do you know what the difference are?
2) do you know if in ableton everything works as it should? I know it can behave as a mackie control, but there are mixed informations as it works perfectly or not
Hey Simone thanks! We haven't tried the Platform M but the difference seems to be that the "+" seems to allow multiple units to be daisy chained with each other. Check the back for the connections and you will see the differences ;) We haven't tried this with Ableton yet as in our main production room we use Cubase, but we do use Ableton so we can try it out :) Don't see why it would have problems as Mackie Control works fine with Cubase.
Doctor Mix Oh ok, got it
Don't know too, I'll wait patiently for your test ☺
Thank you
I think Platform M didn't come with a mapping software as you described here for M+. I hope I'm wrong, but if ever hopefully an update for the M is due. Daisy chaining is cool, but what if one just needs the 8 plus master fader? I'm really hoping for a tighter integration with other DAWs, Ableton Live, Adobe Audition, Presonus Studio One. Hardware improvements are welcome, hopefully Icon delivers on the software end.
Hey Man, merry Christmas!!
Have you had time to check any major problems with ableton?
I know for now it's…probably just a one person question but I'm sure many would be grateful if you could test it
Platform M+ has connections on the backside for four additional modules (say new Platform B etc).
It also has another colors/LEDs and has ability to fine tune separate faders speed.
this is nice but when I update my M+ via the app to have it all send cc messages, then create a custom script nothing happens :( was hoping to using the mackie functionality but just set cc'd myself through the script. Do you just keep it on user defined mode when you boot it up the next time and select Mackie Control?
do you find the faders jittery or stubborn at all? wanna get one but skeptical based on some reveiws ive read
How, to do ,Bidirectional to platform;
So for example, DAW has recorded all the MIDI CC, and when it's playing, how do you back to PLATFORM and get the electric FADER running
Look very cool!
How do you sync the faders to your daws automation mine isnt auto linking. Using logic pro, and set on #3 mode, is this still the correct number for logic?
Mixer also isnt coming up when i press mixer, and really need a tutorial on how to link plugin parameters to the faders like cutoff, resonance, etc.
and also, why cant you select more than one track with the buttons but when u select say 4 in the daw all 4 show as selected?
I keep reading everywhere that these platforms have issues with Cubase 9.5 because of the firmware, specially with track heavy sessions...
I'm after a control surface for dedicated MIDI CC, it looks like the Icon can do this but only in MIDI mode or User Defined mode, and in that situation Transport Controls are all disabled. It seems its strength is DAW mode, not MIDI mode.
The Icon has only a User Defined Mode (with MCP Protocol). There you can map all MCP functions to the buttons, so you have all transport controls available.
hi, do a review about the Behringer X Touch. Ive got this, its awesome. you can do more than an Icon.
What can you do more?
I want to do everything you said in this video but in reaper. I can't do half of all that.
the buttons are triggering notes like A6 and triggers my samples. Super annoying. I disable the " in All midi" for the icon and it works but now my faders wont work without "All on" I had it working perfectly last night. Im guessing something is routed wrong? If so what could if be? Faders 1-3 I assigned them to CC's modulations, expression and breathe. Anyone got any ideas?
Hi. So, is it possible to assign every MIDI CC to the 8 faders, such as CC1, CC11, CC5, etc.etc.?
Yes, see 5:45 onward.
@@magicmulder Ok, but ... this video is from two years ago. I have seen other videos where recently many users complain that they cannot do this, especially with Cubase, despite doing the procedure correctly. Apparently the problem is due to recent firmware updates, which cause problems. I wanted to buy Platform Nano, but I know that the Nano's fader cannot be mapped. I have asked iCon technical support, but they seem to have serious problems of understanding (and perhaps also of competence). The first time they gave an answer that had nothing to do with my question. Then they replied "It is not possible to use user mode with a Mackie Control DAW without issues. Please use the Mackie Control mode and MIDI learn the controls you like to use". So I replied that if I can't map the Platform Nano fader it's useless for me to buy it, so I have to buy M +. Their response was "Please avoid Platform as it is not possible to remap the faders with different CC values in Cubase". I then replied again "Which Platform? Nano? M +? Both? Because I've seen videos on UA-cam where M + faders can be remapped in Cubase. So if it can't be done with Platform Nano, then I might buy Platform M + ". And they never answered me again. They seem really unable to give a clear and exhaustive answer .... if this is their technical support, I think it is better that I think of the Behringer X-Touch Compact.
@@magicmulder answer by the icon's technical support: "As said the Platform Series (all) does not support mapping CC data to Faders and working with Mackie Control DAW´s. I would advise to not get a Platform if you like to do what you have described as the firmware is not capable of doing this right". And this, even if the operation manual of Platform and iMap software (and videos in the icon official channel) says that is possible. So it's no more possible. This is not fair by Icon. I will avoid every icon's product.
Hi Doctor Mix, I am using this controller on mac, but it seems doesn't work with user define mode... I set my first fader to MIDI CC 1 and send data to my controller, but it always control pitch bend... while I was playing... Do you know how to fix it or how you set it up? Thx!!
Does this work with a MixPre II 6 audio interface / multitrack field recorder...?
Hello Claudio!! Cubase user here! I want to buy a controller with motorized fader(s), cause i really want to make my life easier! So i can’t deside which one to buy, between cc121 and icon platform m+! I’m thinking about icon cause i’ll be able to use many faders at the same time, and for it’s many buttons, while for eq’s i’ll use my mpd218’s knobs! On the other hand, i’m not really sure but i believe that, cc121 will be more acurate in volume and eq’s, since its a dedicated device! Or not? Also it has that really usefull a.i. knob, the bypass buttons etc! Any suggestions? By the way, your videos helped me a lot, so thank you for that! Thank you for your time and sorry for my poor english!
Hi!! Does anyone know if it is fully compatible with macOS Mojave? Thx!
If I have 32 channels... Can I control all of them with the bank buttons?
Yes
@@kakiet Thanks, friend!!
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if I use it on user-defined mode to control CCs, will it still work as motorized fader following the corresponding automation lanes? this is nice :)
I am afraid it won't do this. I know it would be extremely cool and we would want this feature as well, but I guess it's more of a midi limitation. When you record the CC messages, they get transmitted to the software instrument and not to the controller anymore. The bi-communication which also moves the motorized faders works only in DAW mode :)
good overview :). Does this work right out of the box with any VI? I haven't managed to do this in Digital Performer...
ya they dont look smooth
How many banks are given?
@Doctor Mix - Professional touring musician here, newbie in audio engineering/production (Cubase). I am trying to chose between the Steinberg CC121 and the Platform M+. I like both (also due to the portability for while I am on tour). I think the CC121 will help make Cubase easier for a beginner and that AI knob is brilliant, but I like the versatility (you demonstrated) and the faders of the Platform M+. Unfortunately I can not have both, so ... which one would you recommend (in 2020)? (I already own a Softube Console 1)
why not go for a Zoom Livetrak L8 or L12? if you are a touring musician, this could kill a few birds with one stone. can act as a live sound mixer with separate monitor mixes, can record your sets, and has a built-in audio interface and is class compliant. Since it's MIDI it'll act as a mixing control surface for your DAW.
I'm torn between one of these and the Presonus Faderport8. I'm just not sure about the repairability and maintenance of the motorized faders on any of these consumer targetted controllers. in the studios, we would have to dismantle parts of the entire mixing console to clean and oil the fader slides and motors quite regularly.
@@nickloss2377 Hi Nick, thanks for your suggestions. I have indeed looked into these Zoom devices. I have a small Zoom recorder and I think it is very good. You are right, it would fulfill several functions: audio interface, mixer and DAW midi controller, etc. It just seems that it is not really well, or optimally suited as a DAW controller, which is what I am looking for in order to speed up workflow, ease and precision. Also I found the built quality disappointing and "plasticky".
The Presonus Faderport8 is an interesting option, but it seems to have several compatibility issues with Cubase. Although the Faderport8 seems to be a good option, it is also a bit on the large side, and I like to travel light. Both the Platform M+ and CC121 are small enough to bring along.
I also just bought a Softube Console 1. I haven't installed it yet, but I am exited about going to get to work with it. It is a smart device! I recommend it (based on the numerous video's I watched about it).
Sadly one of the firmware updates has stopped the mixer and channel change functions from working in cubase.
Did you solve the problem?
@@fantomie7569 Everything works fine with version 2.05. The beta 2.09 was part of the problem. But the other problem was a lesser known function menu in Cubase. Had to switch from Mackie to Compatibility. All fine now.
I Just got the Controller, It’s version 1.07. So you sugest I updated it to version 2.05 to work well and switch the mode?
@@fantomie7569 2.05 is the latest stable version. Worked best for me. And the compatibility mode in Cubase is the most important thing.
@@TheGARCK Thanks Gareth K Music
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I installed the 2.03 version (was on the website) switch to compatibility mode but the problem still exists. What version of cubase do you have? I've got the 10.5.
I use this controller for my tv
???
Can you go to user defined mode if you don't have the additional LCD monitor?
Hey Andrei, yes you can! Instead of the LCD screen the LEDs on the channels indicate which DAW you have selected. User Defined mode is LED 7 (channel 7 ) hope this helps ;)
Thanks a lot for the reply , that's cool )) gonna buy this toy
I recently purchased Icon Qcon Pro G2 and it’s been working great.
I have one problem though and it would be great if someone could help me.
I’m using Cubase 11 / 12 Pro and I have its max fader volume set up at +12db, instead of +6db.
The problem is that when I physically push faders on my Qcon controller to max, they only go to +10db max in Cubase. It doesn’t seem to recognize my +12db preference.
If I set up Cubase max fader volume to +6db, it works fine with the controller.
My controller is set up as Mackie device, and every other function seem to be working correctly.
How do I fix this?
Thanks in advance
hi doc mix I use M+ in Ableton mostly and sometimes cubase but I'm wondering can one mute several tracks at a time .I often find myself going back to the mouse highly and right clicking .anyone with help would be appreciated
This will work with Korg Kronos also??