@@barriewilliams4526No offence intended but it is a very presumptuous thing to say. The limited human mind is unable to fully comprehend God’s Perfect Will as well as God’s Permissive Will.
@@barriewilliams4526 There's no courage or character in atheism. The evidence is overwhelming. Do the women in your family know this? How do they feel about this?
100% totally agree not only within the church of England but other places of worship where cover up of disgraceful indiscretion's to all vulnerable's I left organised Christianity because of personal witnessed cover ups
Let’s have a new Archbishop that will cease pandering to woke, diversity, inclusion and net zero AND repent and reunite with the worldwide church who left in disgust with LLF.
Religion is political and always has been. It’s domination of others using threats of a non existent afterlife. At least Jesus seemed to care about others which is more than right wing politicians do.
Agree he should have no pension etc based on the great harm he has done in many ways. First the harm to the poor boys who were so cruelly abused by John Symth when it looks like Welby could have stopped his cruelty years ago. Also the damage to the Church of England itself which Welby has turned woke in his own image and totally alienated the everyday members of the Church of England who wanted to worship God and Jesus and look after the church and community. So many of us have been left isolated and bereft because we didn't want to adopt the "new ways" ( eg The new and completely ridiculous woke version of Lord's Prayer which makes no sense and sounds awful). Many of us (usually on the elderly side) have been cruelly ridiculed by woke C of E clergy and told we are not wanted in their congregation. It has seemed to me that these woke clergy have a lot of passion for "wokeness" but no passion for Christ. Welby's replacement has a lot of repair work to do and trust may be lost forever.
It would be nice to have a real Archbishop of Canterbury that one could actually believe is a Believer instead of being wannabe politicians who want a respected, secure, sinecure without having to be elected by the public.
Oh sorry I thought the church was humble, so why are they even in the house of lords, for power? .I thought the days when the church held power over the masses and lord's due to fear had gone, or are we still in the dark ages?
I have news. Many Brits has also noticed over the years there was more emphasis on bowing to Royals than bowing to The King of Kings in many big events at the Church. If we noticed, we may be sure Almighty God did. The Church of England overall needs repentance and revival. God bless our struggling nation.
The new Archbishop needs to be a Christian not a political wannabe. An Archbishop should be looking after the Church and the edicts of Christianity - get proper candidates
Welby a cultural Christian...with no spiritual discernment. The man is in love with religion but divorced from God and reality. He created a broad church....that couldn't navigate the 'narrow straight road. So he found a wider road. A road to destruction. But Welby lacks a spiritual road map and can't discern the signs.
Reminded of Matthew 23:15 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. These Anglican bishops are good at that, but the day of reconning is coming.
🙌🙌🙌 I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison , where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 monthly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!
It has been Mildred Evelyn Rooney. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus.
It has been Mildred Evelyn Rooney. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus.
The purpose of bishops in the Lord's is to provide specifically Christian input into national debate... It's tragic for both the nation and the church that so many on the bench of bishops now represent woke agendas rather than the historic Christian faith.
It’s a mistake to select from the upper echelon. Every Church of England Priest, retired or otherwise, should be on the list.. otherwise you end up with a downward spiral into oblivion. We need a ‘man of God, a good shepherd’.
He'll be called Welby from me, I'm thinking of converting to Catholicism because Welby is a liar in every single aspect of his life, I don't think he's been upfront about so much.
The Church of Rome is also plagued worldwide by abuse scandals which Cardinals and Bishops covered up for decades. You could consider the Eastern Orthodox Church which is the true Biblical and Traditional path, free from doctrines invented by the Western churches.
Those who defend and protect abuse and abusers of children are those who also abuse. True men and women of God would never, ever fail to protect and care for victims of child abuse. Does the House of Lords also protect and sheild the abusers of children? Why is failure to report the abuse of children not a criminal act in the UK? Does the UK not have mandatory reporting laws in place? Please would someone explaing? Thank you.
Prehaps the Christian church will change now that Welby has gone but it's not only him the whole church hierarchy is not fit for purpose if you look at the church hierarchy that voted for Welby nearly all are woke activists they have very little to do with Christianity they spend there time with woke politics and things like this is what has gone wrong with the Church of England l have often wondered if these circles have influenced our now King , the only real working Christian, s in our country are the clergy that work with the citizens in the churches and communities around our good land.
Can we all stop this nonsense about wokeness, diversity, inclusion or whatever and just focus on the issue itself.... If he was advised of this back in 2013 then who specifically told him? A specific name please? Whoever it was surely the first thought that would spring into your head would be 'F**k me, why does nobody know about this?' Oh! it's OK I've reported it to the police.... Fine, we'll just leave it there then, won't mention it to the boss, (the Queen), or the government..... Where is the police report reference number? Who as the investigating officer/s and what was the outcome of their enquiries? If you are going to claim that this was reported then we need to know details of who you reported it to, what the outcome of the investigation was, and why you think you can just 'resign' and walk away from this? This is just complete nonsense and I wish some investigative journalist would start asking hard questions before this guy goes back to his loving family in the country with a pension that none of us could even dream about.......
Justin trouble. The religious arm of the labour party in as much trouble as the parent. They should not be in politics of any kind at all They are part of the problem not the solution.
Rory..... its not the "public" bit in question......its what goes on in private m'thinks. And if Welby is so saint like why are so many churches empty of congregation and being sold off like hot cross buns. No Rory Stewart there is a deep rooted rot within the church at present. I am all for seeing its rebirth and to shine a guiding light to communities and put all their effort into protecting the most vulnerable...in each parish....in each village......every church used for good, alms and hope for us poor sods. Yet Mr Welby and co. presume to think for us, and nefariously sell off church after church......as we all trudge on clueless blind and spiritually dead flock headed by....?
There is an argument for all faith communities to be represented pro rata in a reformed House of Lords. I'm an Evangelical Christian, I don't feel represented in any way by the C of E bishops. Gavin Ashenden is correct to say that the new bishops seem more Labour than Jesus.
Welby writes articles for the WEF, and allows Freemasons to hold ceremonies in Christian churches. He is not a shepherd, but a destroyer. Jesus emphatically warned us that wolves would come and lead the flock astray. Welby is one such wolf in sheep’s clothing. CofE members should pray for discernment and moral courage, because they have compromised the faith in their blind obedience to this heretical lover of self and power.
I used to attend Church of England services, but left their church when one service was a Christmas pantomime focused almost entirely on Brexit, condemning those who voted leave as ignorant, immoral racists. Entirely politicised, and nothing to do with the gospel. The same church which moralised about inclusion also hushed me and asked me to leave during a service in which my toddler was fussing. That was the last straw, and I have since been repeatedly appalled at how overtly political this so called church has become - often in direct contradiction to the gospel. Most worrying is their document ‘valuing all God’s children’ which was written in collaboration with the controversial activist group Stonewall, and which pressures schools and parents to socially transition children in school. I am appalled by the Church of England. They have abandoned the faith and gone after the world, and have lost both.
You some ethical cleaner who kicks arse...who isn't a member of the cloth. Sometimes, you need an enema. These institutions are too keen to be nice to those who are in the fold and everyone else go just suffer. The "woke" and "left wing" comments are plain bollocks and isnt the problem. This institutional reputation preservation occurs everywhere.
Welby is a disgrace! A social worker in the same position, would have reported such abuses!!!!!!!!! It beggars belief!!!! It’s time for the police to step in and investigate!!!!
None of the clergy should be given grace and favour peerages to sit and pontificate their nonsense masquerading as “government” representatives. Full stop.
It is written "Cursed is the man who trusts in man!" Jeues prophesied the falling away from the faith and giving heed to the doctrines of demons, the "Church" is indeed in deep apostasy, God help us!
The Church of England and Church of Scotland should concentrate on matters biblical, look after, and minister to their flocks but keep out of social work and meddling in illegal, note that word illegal, immigration. The church should be part of the best fabric of society, not a bunch of second woke supporters. Sadly my advice will be ignored and these once great institutions with continue their decline into obscurity and irrelevance.
And they wonder why I left anglicanism for Holy Orthodoxy. The problem whether leftist like Mr. Welby or so called conservative they're very worldly focused and based in Judeo-masonic modernism. The problem is Modernism, the solution isn't conservative (which is also based on modernism and no better) but the solution is Traditionalism, that's why I left anglicanism all together and found the Traditional Apostolic Orthodox Catholic Faith. We Orthodox just started Advent, so I'll dedicate one day out of the week to fast and pray for the victims, Kyrie Eleison! Reject Modernity, Become Orthodox
Time was when the Church of England was said to be the 'Tory Party at Prayer.' Is it now a case of 'The Left at prayer' - for whoever be on the Left to concern themselves with prayer.
Wonderful news. Christians have been praying Welby out for years. The scripture, Wolves in sheep's clothing, comes to mind.
And, your god did nothing.......
@@barriewilliams4526No offence intended but it is a very presumptuous thing to say. The limited human mind is unable to fully comprehend God’s Perfect Will as well as God’s Permissive Will.
@@barriewilliams4526 How's your god, humanist socialist government, working out for the UK?
@@barriewilliams4526 There's no courage or character in atheism. The evidence is overwhelming. Do the women in your family know this? How do they feel about this?
Or the blind leading the blind 😮! The pit has yawned and is swallowing them up.
Welby will not be the only bishop complicit with the practice of covering up child abuse. The whole lot of them need to be replaced!
100% totally agree not only within the church of England but other places of worship where cover up of disgraceful indiscretion's to all vulnerable's I left organised Christianity because of personal witnessed cover ups
Let’s have a new Archbishop that will cease pandering to woke, diversity, inclusion and net zero AND repent and reunite with the worldwide church who left in disgust with LLF.
Yeah, let's go back to when the CofE was the Conservative party at prayer!
Shouldn't have been interfering in politics in the first place!
Yes and that has been going on for decades.
Religion is political and always has been. It’s domination of others using threats of a non existent afterlife. At least Jesus seemed to care about others which is more than right wing politicians do.
Jesus said to his discipline to be no part of the world. Jesus told people to focus on god's kingdom not mans made governments
It would seem that the Anglican Church needs to go through another Reformation...
Just like the Church of Rome which is also plagued by abuse scandals.
er no...the so called 'Reformation' was and is the problem.
Brilliant analysis by Dr. Gavin Ashenden. Wow ‼️
Gavin Ashenden is totally correct .
What a refreshing change. Bring him on again please.
Good to hear from a Christian quite rare in the media
He should receive no money,no pension, no pay outs!
Should be charged with perverting the course of justice, and/or aiding and abetting an offender
Exactly...I quite agree
@@terryjacob8169 Absolutely!
Won't hurt him at all. He's a millionaire!!
Agree he should have no pension etc based on the great harm he has done in many ways.
First the harm to the poor boys who were so cruelly abused by John Symth when it looks like Welby could have stopped his cruelty years ago.
Also the damage to the Church of England itself which Welby has turned woke in his own image and totally alienated the everyday members of the Church of England who wanted to worship God and Jesus and look after the church and community.
So many of us have been left isolated and bereft because we didn't want to adopt the "new ways" ( eg The new and completely ridiculous woke version of Lord's Prayer which makes no sense and sounds awful).
Many of us (usually on the elderly side) have been cruelly ridiculed by woke C of E clergy and told we are not wanted in their congregation. It has seemed to me that these woke clergy have a lot of passion for "wokeness" but no passion for Christ.
Welby's replacement has a lot of repair work to do and trust may be lost forever.
Gavin always talks sense. He's been criticising the woke C of E for ages.
He should be in jail
Why?
Thank you for pointing that out Mike. He is excellent and I would like to hear more from him.
If u knew history youd know why he shouldnt be on the media firing shots at the c of e, a catholics 1st loyalty is to rome, not the uk, imo.
Gavin, excellent as ever.
It would be nice to have a real Archbishop of Canterbury that one could actually believe is a Believer instead of being wannabe politicians who want a respected, secure, sinecure without having to be elected by the public.
A branch of the Labour Party, you say, I agree and the left wing 'woke' part of it too.
Oh sorry I thought the church was humble, so why are they even in the house of lords, for power? .I thought the days when the church held power over the masses and lord's due to fear had gone, or are we still in the dark ages?
We need a Revival! The Church of England needs a shaking! I pray that this will cause deep reflection!
Civil lawsuit needed by the victims against Welby and the so called Church…..
Difficult, given Smyth didn't ever work for the CoE, and did almost of his (UK) abuse at Winchester College.
It was always a strange church created by a king who murdered many of his wives, and needed a patsy church to approve his divorces.
No Bishops in the House Of Lords thank you.
I have news. Many Brits has also noticed over the years there was more emphasis on bowing to Royals than bowing to The King of Kings in many big events at the Church. If we noticed, we may be sure Almighty God did. The Church of England overall needs repentance and revival. God bless our struggling nation.
Just imagine a church going woke, more like a left wing activist, not preaching the gospel but left wing ideals
The new Archbishop needs to be a Christian not a political wannabe. An Archbishop should be looking after the Church and the edicts of Christianity - get proper candidates
THIS WHOLE SCANDAL NEEDS INVESTIGATING BY THE POLICE.
So has he been defrocked, and if not, why not?
It definitely shouldn’t end here, it should be the start.
I honestly think that all left-wing politics need to be taken out of government🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Welby a cultural Christian...with no spiritual discernment. The man is in love with religion but divorced from God and reality. He created a broad church....that couldn't navigate the 'narrow straight road. So he found a wider road. A road to destruction. But Welby lacks a spiritual road map and can't discern the signs.
The era of truth has begun. Im getting my tin foil hat and popcorn 🍿 ready 😂😂😂
Church of Egos
Remove all clergy from the house of Lords, better still abolish the house of Lords, it is totally irrelevant today
💯
....and replace it with what exactly?
Resignation long overdue, now let interview him under caution and hopefully charge him, then get rid of the Bishops from the government
Lords of misrule and wrongspeak.
I like Gavin. He speaks very well and is sensible.
They should all be charged and locked up
Reminded of Matthew 23:15 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. These Anglican bishops are good at that, but the day of reconning is coming.
Welby is a disgrace! A social worker in the same position, would have reported such abuses!!!!!!!!! It beggars belief!!!!
🙌🙌🙌 I was homeless, did drugs, went into prison , where I got to know God. He changed my life. Now I have a home, a wife and a lovely year old daughter (zoe), and a stream of income that gats me $47,000 monthly. Plus a new identity - a child of God, Hallelujah!!!
Congratulations!! The scriptures clearly states there's going a transference of the riches of the heathen to the righteous.God keep blessings you
But how do you make so much in a month?mind sharing?
It has been Mildred Evelyn Rooney. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus.
Big Thanks to my co-worker (Alex) who suggested MS MILDRED EVELYN ROONEY
It has been Mildred Evelyn Rooney. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus.
The purpose of bishops in the Lord's is to provide specifically Christian input into national debate... It's tragic for both the nation and the church that so many on the bench of bishops now represent woke agendas rather than the historic Christian faith.
As an Anglican I believe all church hierarchy must believe in god and not interfere in politics
It’s a mistake to select from the upper echelon. Every Church of England Priest, retired or otherwise, should be on the list.. otherwise you end up with a downward spiral into oblivion. We need a ‘man of God, a good shepherd’.
He'll be called Welby from me, I'm thinking of converting to Catholicism because Welby is a liar in every single aspect of his life, I don't think he's been upfront about so much.
The Church of Rome is also plagued worldwide by abuse scandals which Cardinals and Bishops covered up for decades. You could consider the Eastern Orthodox Church which is the true Biblical and Traditional path, free from doctrines invented by the Western churches.
You are all welcome in the Catholic Church. Henry VIII and Martin Luther lost the plot.
I hope you don't think you are going to get away from abuse and it being covered up by doing so.
We're so lucky to have Gavin Ashenden in the Catholic Church - Deo Gratias.
He'll fail upwards.
I offer myself up for the the position of Archbishop up Canterbury.
Those who defend and protect abuse and abusers of children are those who also abuse. True men and women of God would never, ever fail to protect and care for victims of child abuse. Does the House of Lords also protect and sheild the abusers of children? Why is failure to report the abuse of children not a criminal act in the UK? Does the UK not have mandatory reporting laws in place? Please would someone explaing? Thank you.
The UK abuse happened in the 1970s and early 80s.
@ And this abuse of children no longer exists? Not in the last 30+ years?
What a corrupt lot😮
What I find amazing is that he is not prosecuted for criminal negligence.
Prehaps the Christian church will change now that Welby has gone but it's not only him the whole church hierarchy is not fit for purpose if you look at the church hierarchy that voted for Welby nearly all are woke activists they have very little to do with Christianity they spend there time with woke politics and things like this is what has gone wrong with the Church of England l have often wondered if these circles have influenced our now King , the only real working Christian, s in our country are the clergy that work with the citizens in the churches and communities around our good land.
May your Church vote with your feet. Empty pews for a month with zero donations will get their attention.
Can we all stop this nonsense about wokeness, diversity, inclusion or whatever and just focus on the issue itself....
If he was advised of this back in 2013 then who specifically told him? A specific name please?
Whoever it was surely the first thought that would spring into your head would be 'F**k me, why does nobody know about this?'
Oh! it's OK I've reported it to the police....
Fine, we'll just leave it there then, won't mention it to the boss, (the Queen), or the government.....
Where is the police report reference number? Who as the investigating officer/s and what was the outcome of their enquiries?
If you are going to claim that this was reported then we need to know details of who you reported it to, what the outcome of the investigation was, and why you think you can just 'resign' and walk away from this?
This is just complete nonsense and I wish some investigative journalist would start asking hard questions before this guy goes back to his loving family in the country with a pension that none of us could even dream about.......
Well, your beloved Prince Willy said he wasn't supporting the COE. Maybe he was right
This is one of those Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest quite from Henry 2 He got lighter than Becket
Why do we the people put up with this, where is our say, isn't it all about our interests the people
I don't know why and clearly not.
Why are so many of his candidates women?
Gafcon were right to stop recognising the Archbishop of Canterbury.
The sea has gone!
Government should be populated solely by the sinless. Of course, there would be no one available.
Justin trouble. The religious arm of the labour party in as much trouble as the parent. They should not be in politics of any kind at all They are part of the problem not the solution.
Ashenden's remarks are over the top.
How do you call him right reverent when he supported a pervert? Doesn’t that make a nonsense of the title of reverent?
Would like to hear more from Gavin Ashenden on Talk TV
Rory..... its not the "public" bit in question......its what goes on in private m'thinks. And if Welby is so saint like why are so many churches empty of congregation and being sold off like hot cross buns. No Rory Stewart there is a deep rooted rot within the church at present. I am all for seeing its rebirth and to shine a guiding light to communities and put all their effort into protecting the most vulnerable...in each parish....in each village......every church used for good, alms and hope for us poor sods. Yet Mr Welby and co. presume to think for us, and nefariously sell off church after church......as we all trudge on clueless blind and spiritually dead flock headed by....?
Gavin Ashenden is such a good person. Finger right on the pulse as always
Disestablish the CofE and let it survive on contributions from its members.
Yes.: direct, reasonable and well-spoken.
So sad the church has let God down again.
There is an argument for all faith communities to be represented pro rata in a reformed House of Lords. I'm an Evangelical Christian, I don't feel represented in any way by the C of E bishops. Gavin Ashenden is correct to say that the new bishops seem more Labour than Jesus.
A branch of the Labour Party love it.
How about we get Gavin as the new archbishop of Canterbury ! 🙏👍
Did he not become Roman Catholic
God is love, enabling sadistic torture of children is far from Christian Love, Justin is complicit. Lock him up.
Welby writes articles for the WEF, and allows Freemasons to hold ceremonies in Christian churches. He is not a shepherd, but a destroyer. Jesus emphatically warned us that wolves would come and lead the flock astray. Welby is one such wolf in sheep’s clothing. CofE members should pray for discernment and moral courage, because they have compromised the faith in their blind obedience to this heretical lover of self and power.
Removing a "pillar" from the edifice may collapse the entire establishment charade...........
An excellent analysis of the situation , sack the lot and forget payment of any amount , why pay failure
I used to attend Church of England services, but left their church when one service was a Christmas pantomime focused almost entirely on Brexit, condemning those who voted leave as ignorant, immoral racists. Entirely politicised, and nothing to do with the gospel. The same church which moralised about inclusion also hushed me and asked me to leave during a service in which my toddler was fussing. That was the last straw, and I have since been repeatedly appalled at how overtly political this so called church has become - often in direct contradiction to the gospel. Most worrying is their document ‘valuing all God’s children’ which was written in collaboration with the controversial activist group Stonewall, and which pressures schools and parents to socially transition children in school. I am appalled by the Church of England. They have abandoned the faith and gone after the world, and have lost both.
Er... That moral right was relinquished decades ago... It's as unlikely to change practice today as it was then.
You some ethical cleaner who kicks arse...who isn't a member of the cloth. Sometimes, you need an enema. These institutions are too keen to be nice to those who are in the fold and everyone else go just suffer. The "woke" and "left wing" comments are plain bollocks and isnt the problem. This institutional reputation preservation occurs everywhere.
THE HOUSE OF LORDS SHALL EVER BE
JURRASIC PARK IN ENTITY.
First, eliminate the weird English tradition where the head of the church is the monarch.......Jesus is.
So many must have left the church over the years observing such a dreary character
Did Rory Stewart put any money on Welby not resigning by any chance?
Welby is a disgrace! A social worker in the same position, would have reported such abuses!!!!!!!!! It beggars belief!!!! It’s time for the police to step in and investigate!!!!
None of the clergy should be given grace and favour peerages to sit and pontificate their nonsense masquerading as “government” representatives. Full stop.
Church of England should never have been ,King Henry should have stayed remained with the Catholics, Down with the church of England
Call him thing.
Vatican City is another country that has theologians in the government. Not just Iran.
JustOUT Welby?
Very good! JustOutandNotsoWelby?
@@philipparees2177 Wrong Irreverent unWelby? 😂
History is nearly up !
Unfortunately, 2tier has the final choice!
It is written "Cursed is the man who trusts in man!" Jeues prophesied the falling away from the faith and giving heed to the doctrines of demons, the "Church" is indeed in deep apostasy, God help us!
Why dont the CofE just do what they are supposed to do. I mean they even have an instruction book. Just do that.
The Church of England and Church of Scotland should concentrate on matters biblical, look after, and minister to their flocks but keep out of social work and meddling in illegal, note that word illegal, immigration. The church should be part of the best fabric of society, not a bunch of second woke supporters. Sadly my advice will be ignored and these once great institutions with continue their decline into obscurity and irrelevance.
Church of England is an absolute Joke , and the whole country is laughing 😆 😄 😂
I imagine former Archbishop George Carey now sitting in the House of Lords is ducking for cover ....
He was only there for one purpose to crown the king it was all organised
Go woke go broke
Who will have the human morals to offer him work on his poor credentials involving abuse
And they wonder why I left anglicanism for Holy Orthodoxy. The problem whether leftist like Mr. Welby or so called conservative they're very worldly focused and based in Judeo-masonic modernism. The problem is Modernism, the solution isn't conservative (which is also based on modernism and no better) but the solution is Traditionalism, that's why I left anglicanism all together and found the Traditional Apostolic Orthodox Catholic Faith.
We Orthodox just started Advent, so I'll dedicate one day out of the week to fast and pray for the victims, Kyrie Eleison!
Reject Modernity, Become Orthodox
Time was when the Church of England was said to be the 'Tory Party at Prayer.'
Is it now a case of 'The Left at prayer' -
for whoever be on the Left to concern themselves with prayer.
Most of the so-called vicars I’ve met aren’t actually Christians.
Shades of Reverend Peter Ball and the ensuring cover ups.