Cheers mate!!! Yeh totally agree! We still prefer to cook on the fire if we can but thats not always possible (fire bans, time etc) so this is a great alternative.
Amazing to see the product working for most places, I just have a quick question about supply voltage for the stove plate. Is it purely dc? If so how many volts and amps is it?
Thanks heaps fellas !!! I've recently bought a 120ah battery and more to the point a (1000w) inverter. Because you set the Breville to 800w and explained why..... I'll be rushing out to get a Breville induction cooker. Thanks again so much for making this video.
Can you run and invertor and induction of AGM batteries? I heard the current can fry AGM's? Was figuring a 200 watt invertor and keeping appliances like induction at less then 1000? thought
No you won’t be able to run it off an AGM (not a standard 100-200ah 12v agm anyway) To run 1000 you will need at least a 1000 watt inverter. At a minimum for induction I would suggest a set up of 200ah lithium. 2000w inverter. You can get away with some 100ah lithiums depending on recommended max discharge.
Probably about 10-15 minutes. We used to do it with a 100ah lithium. Along as you can put the power back in eg solar or driving then you will be fine. Also check your batteries max current/amp draw and check it can handle it.
if i can 3 meals in that day thats 90Amps and a fridge that takes 24A and lights take about 7A and then charging 2 phones is around 8A im looking at just under 130Amps per day. on a good day my solar pulls in about 60Amps a day. 130A out and only 60A in. for me it dosnt sound sustainable but would be great to see some of the people taking this rout break down there setup like this as well so we can see why people are taking this option and who it works for.
Hi yes I agree, so we have a fixed solar panel on the car which probably only does 50amps on a good day. But the car produces 40amps per hour. As we are often driving for at least an hour a day it is just something that we need to keep an eye on and cook the odd thing on the fire to save abit of power or don’t do a cook up for breakfast. It is definitely a fast way too cook though.
As long as there is easy alternative of using portable gas stove you want save electricity for other use which needs only electricity. For example running freezer or air conditioning etc
Dear sir, please check your numbers on pricing for a Breville Induction Cooktop. They are $1200 to $1500 here in the States and I doubt they are 1/12 the price in Australia.
$150aud in Australia which is about $90us www.harveynorman.com.au/breville-the-quick-cook-go-ceramic-cooktop.html?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADrvG6EVSldVgIArFochCWEOC3Rxe
Great vid, I just bought one of those induction cooktops. Just trying to get my head around the correct settings, when you cooked the curry on 800 what temp setting did you have it on, Cheers
Every cooktop is different. Our one actually states the amps on the LCD instead some that just have numbers 1-10.. If your cooktop is a 2000w cooktop I would guess 10 uses the full 2000w and 5 would use around 1000w. This is where a battery monitor comes in handy so you know exactly what the inverter is drawing out of the battery.
wow 30 mps in 10-15 minutes? Thats seems like insanely bad conversion or power loss. If my maths are correct, 1000 watts/ 12 volts= 83 amp hours. Your cooking at 120 amp hours meaning there is a 50% energy loss in the conversion. Thats pretty significant. Thanks for the real world numbers.
@joesmith1142 Screen shows at least 1080w at one point in the video and the battery is probably 12.8 or higher. There's a loss of probably 10-20% from the inverter, so your math is probably not too precise.
@@TrueNorthAdventures problem besides basic temp control is it requires the highest wattage supply always even if you are just using it on a low watt setting.
it would help people watching this video if you put links to the induction hob and the power station you used. otherwise it is just for entertainment mate
The irony of using an inverter is that there is a fair chance that the induction cooker itself is converting the AC to DC anyway (obviously the controls are all DC). If that's the case then there is fair bit of energy being lost in the double conversions that could theoretically be avoided. And indeed you can find videos of people who have built their own DC induction cookers (a lot of them seem to be Indians running them on solar-based systems).
@@TrueNorthAdventures but surely it will need to convert the DC to AC to run the device. Surely you need an AC current to produce the alternating magnetic field to give the inductance to generate heat in the magnetic pan ( or the magnetic core in the base of a non-magnetic pan. Or have I totally misunderstood inductence.
1x9kg gas bottle $55 1x refill $25. 1x itechworld 100ah powerstation $2500 So I can buy and refill my bottle like 97 times for the same price. Or 50 and have enough money left to get an AGM + battery box to run lights and fridge. 🤔
Spot on mate! Although most people are moving to lithium now anyway so it's probably just more the cost of an inverter that is the extra cost to setup for most. Also has the advantages of being lighter in comparison to an AGM battery and extra gas bottle setup and cooks perfectly in windy situations. It's not going to suit everyone but definitely has its applications.
My 60ah lifepo4 battery cost me $200. My 5 large solar panels cost me $200. They deliver upwards of 60amps at noon, so I can cook while charging the battery. This is for a permanent, off grid setup. But electric is the way to go there, because it means I don't have to do any runs to replace anything. There's energy when I need it.
We didn't see it that way, but we can see where you are coming from. Even if the induction cooker was made to run off 12v directly, it would still require an internally concealed inverter to change the current to AC to work, so it's not really that different and allows the option to use the inverter for other appliances.
I see where you are coming from. Although even if the induction cooker was made to run off 12v directly, it would still require an internally concealed inverter to change the current to AC to work, so it's not really that different and allows the option to use the inverter for other appliances.
That's not real camping. Starting a camp fire is. And who wants to lug around a big battery in the woods just to power a stove? These stoves are ok at home or even on a road trip if you have the power in the car. Next video...73
Agree mate! 👍 definitely not for hiking and we always still light a camp fire in the evenings. We use ours in the car for convenience and when there is a fire ban and we cannot light fires
@@TrueNorthAdventures that's good and quick stops at a rest area. Same as my butane stove. Even fire bans I still can get away with using my stove. The only fire ban I was in was when it was so dry during the forth of July all the fireworks displays were cancelled. We went to the mountains and no ban was there. 73
![[Car camping] No inverter required, DC appliances for vanlife](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/EPHPZnijFXc/mqdefault.jpg)
incredibly well shot, written and explained. No fluff without being robotic info dump too. 10/10 Thanks so much for the info!
Thanks mate!
Have the same Breville cooker and it's so good! Induction certainly has its place but is not for everyone. Keep up the great content.
Cheers mate!!! Yeh totally agree! We still prefer to cook on the fire if we can but thats not always possible (fire bans, time etc) so this is a great alternative.
Amazing to see the product working for most places, I just have a quick question about supply voltage for the stove plate. Is it purely dc? If so how many volts and amps is it?
thank you for getting straight to the point tile and video!
Thanks mate! Cheers for watching!
been tossing up about adding an inverter and going induction for a few weeks now.....reckon you've almost convinced me
You won't regret it mate! 👍
Thanks heaps fellas !!! I've recently bought a 120ah battery and more to the point a (1000w) inverter. Because you set the Breville to 800w and explained why..... I'll be rushing out to get a Breville induction cooker. Thanks again so much for making this video.
how are you finding it? are you able to get enough charge from solar to make it sustainable?
Haven't fitted the inverter yet. It will be interesting to find out, Cheers
No problems mate!
We’re sure you won’t regret it 👍
Never looked back after induction cooking 👍
Yeh its bloody great 👍
Well done boys 👌a little bit of change every now then 💯
Thanks mate!
Out of all the 4 wheel drive shows on youtub I enjoy your content the most
Cheers mate!! Thanks for watching! 👍
Awesome video guys! Love your work :)
Thanks guys!!! 🙌
Best moment:
“Get a beer, mate?”
“I’ll get two if you want one.”
😂🍻
How many camp curry’s have been cooked since TNA started? Marc’s go to meal?
We can't count that high mate... 😂
Can you run and invertor and induction of AGM batteries? I heard the current can fry AGM's? Was figuring a 200 watt invertor and keeping appliances like induction at less then 1000? thought
No you won’t be able to run it off an AGM (not a standard 100-200ah 12v agm anyway)
To run 1000 you will need at least a 1000 watt inverter.
At a minimum for induction I would suggest a set up of 200ah lithium. 2000w inverter.
You can get away with some 100ah lithiums depending on recommended max discharge.
Love my ecflow 2200
How long did it take to cook the meal? I’ve got a 175ah lithium I want to try an induction cooktop
Probably about 10-15 minutes. We used to do it with a 100ah lithium. Along as you can put the power back in eg solar or driving then you will be fine. Also check your batteries max current/amp draw and check it can handle it.
Straight up video! That beer looks delicious! How was it, lol!
Thank mate!! It was bloody delicious!!! 🍻
What induction cooktop are you guys running?
Currently using a Breville LIC500MTB2IAN1
if i can 3 meals in that day thats 90Amps and a fridge that takes 24A and lights take about 7A and then charging 2 phones is around 8A im looking at just under 130Amps per day.
on a good day my solar pulls in about 60Amps a day.
130A out and only 60A in.
for me it dosnt sound sustainable but would be great to see some of the people taking this rout break down there setup like this as well so we can see why people are taking this option and who it works for.
Hi yes I agree, so we have a fixed solar panel on the car which probably only does 50amps on a good day. But the car produces 40amps per hour. As we are often driving for at least an hour a day it is just something that we need to keep an eye on and cook the odd thing on the fire to save abit of power or don’t do a cook up for breakfast. It is definitely a fast way too cook though.
@@TrueNorthAdventures thanks for the insight!
You don't need an inverter you get yourself a 12 volt induction cooktop
Wow! Love to know where to buy one if you could let us know 👍
@@TrueNorthAdventures Ali Express
As long as there is easy alternative of using portable gas stove you want save electricity for other use which needs only electricity. For example running freezer or air conditioning etc
We usually carry a backup or cook on a fire if we really need to save power.
Almost converted. Nice video 🤙🏼
Cheers mate! It's not for everyone but definitely has its advantages over gas and fire. It also has its disadvantages.. price for example.
Dear sir, please check your numbers on pricing for a Breville Induction Cooktop. They are $1200 to $1500 here in the States and I doubt they are 1/12 the price in Australia.
$150aud in Australia which is about $90us
www.harveynorman.com.au/breville-the-quick-cook-go-ceramic-cooktop.html?gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADrvG6EVSldVgIArFochCWEOC3Rxe
What size inverter do I need for that cooktop you where using
Cheers Tbone
2000w inverter would be what we would get.
Thanks for the video, it helps educate us.
You are welcome!
Haha…I think Marc needed a coffee or 10 before trying to explain how to make one 😂
He was struggling big time 😂
Looking at hind sight, what size power supply would you get if you were getting another one?
Do you mean inverter size or battery storage amount?
What brand of upright DC fridge did you use in this vid? I've been looking for one for years.
This is the engel ST90F
Great vid, I just bought one of those induction cooktops. Just trying to get my head around the correct settings, when you cooked the curry on 800 what temp setting did you have it on, Cheers
Every cooktop is different. Our one actually states the amps on the LCD instead some that just have numbers 1-10..
If your cooktop is a 2000w cooktop I would guess 10 uses the full 2000w and 5 would use around 1000w.
This is where a battery monitor comes in handy so you know exactly what the inverter is drawing out of the battery.
Looks awesome pioneers of high class freedom to me brother
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wow 30 mps in 10-15 minutes? Thats seems like insanely bad conversion or power loss. If my maths are correct, 1000 watts/ 12 volts= 83 amp hours. Your cooking at 120 amp hours meaning there is a 50% energy loss in the conversion. Thats pretty significant. Thanks for the real world numbers.
No problems! Yes converting from 12v to 240v for the induction has noticeable losses.
How much would the same thing be if I was using a 120 volt AC inverter?
It’s would still be the same usage from your 12v battery and would still need the same watt inverter just the 120v version.
Yes I mean with solar panels connected to charge the batteries it shouldn't be an issue better to get 2 100ah batteries and enjoy life 😂
@joesmith1142 Screen shows at least 1080w at one point in the video and the battery is probably 12.8 or higher. There's a loss of probably 10-20% from the inverter, so your math is probably not too precise.
What sucks about most induction cooktops is they cycle power on and off instead of precisely modulating the power continuously.
Yeh it is a definite disadvantage. We have found the more expensive cooktops have better regulation than the cheaper options.
@@TrueNorthAdventures problem besides basic temp control is it requires the highest wattage supply always even if you are just using it on a low watt setting.
great stuff lads
Glad you enjoyed it
100 amp-hours at 12V is 1200 watt-hours? (In the US, we measure power stations like that in watt-hours.)
This battery is a 1300w battery
Masterchef Stevie 😂
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it would help people watching this video if you put links to the induction hob and the power station you used. otherwise it is just for entertainment mate
Sorry we dont have the links but all the brands and model number for the battery are mentioned in the video
Much better option than propane, this is the route I am going with.
Each has its place. We pretty much always carry both and use whatever suits the scenario best.
Such a hob can be converted to a non-pulse cycle. For example, the power will become 500 watts continuously.
That would be handy 👍
@@TrueNorthAdventures у меня видео есть о подробной доработке.
Is the battery lithium
Yes
The irony of using an inverter is that there is a fair chance that the induction cooker itself is converting the AC to DC anyway (obviously the controls are all DC). If that's the case then there is fair bit of energy being lost in the double conversions that could theoretically be avoided. And indeed you can find videos of people who have built their own DC induction cookers (a lot of them seem to be Indians running them on solar-based systems).
Very interesting mate. Surely a 12v induction cooktop would do pretty well if someone released it.
@@TrueNorthAdventures but surely it will need to convert the DC to AC to run the device. Surely you need an AC current to produce the alternating magnetic field to give the inductance to generate heat in the magnetic pan ( or the magnetic core in the base of a non-magnetic pan.
Or have I totally misunderstood inductence.
@@davidclark2286around 50kHz AC is needed.
@@davidclark2286You have not misunderstood. You are correct.
@@TrueNorthAdventures there are many available.
How I can get this in Pakistan!
Sorry cant help you with that. Maybe order in australia/america and have sent to you?
1x9kg gas bottle $55
1x refill $25.
1x itechworld 100ah powerstation $2500
So I can buy and refill my bottle like 97 times for the same price. Or 50 and have enough money left to get an AGM + battery box to run lights and fridge. 🤔
Spot on mate! Although most people are moving to lithium now anyway so it's probably just more the cost of an inverter that is the extra cost to setup for most.
Also has the advantages of being lighter in comparison to an AGM battery and extra gas bottle setup and cooks perfectly in windy situations.
It's not going to suit everyone but definitely has its applications.
My 60ah lifepo4 battery cost me $200. My 5 large solar panels cost me $200. They deliver upwards of 60amps at noon, so I can cook while charging the battery. This is for a permanent, off grid setup. But electric is the way to go there, because it means I don't have to do any runs to replace anything. There's energy when I need it.
Great video!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it
You might consider changing the title to something like "induction cooking with an AC inverter"
Runs off of a 12v supply
Title is 12v suggesting this is a DC cook top. First bit of the video talking about inverter so actually running off of AC not DC 😞
We didn't see it that way, but we can see where you are coming from.
Even if the induction cooker was made to run off 12v directly, it would still require an internally concealed inverter to change the current to AC to work, so it's not really that different and allows the option to use the inverter for other appliances.
@@TrueNorthAdventures you don't need an inverter for heating elements. There are DC heaters.
I thought this was going to be about a 12V induction cooker. Misleading title.
Not meant to be misleading
Looks like there's probably enough dry debris around to get a fire goin'.
Yeah, definitely, but in some scenarios, starting a campfire fire isn't allowed or a good idea.
This might be the best option instead of buying wood for a year. Unless you got unlimited wood.
Yep. Great for extended stays at locations where you are not allowed to collect firewood eg. Australian national parks or some private property camps.
A cybertruck with its 123kwh battery pack and 9.6 kW output would do the job easily.
Yeah should get most of the pancakes cooked. 🤣
How is the 12v cooking? You're inverting to 120v, so inefficient.
Because we are using a 12v battery to power it? 🤷♂️
Kinda misleading title. Yes you use 12v battery, but you run the equipment off a 120/240v inverter
I see where you are coming from. Although even if the induction cooker was made to run off 12v directly, it would still require an internally concealed inverter to change the current to AC to work, so it's not really that different and allows the option to use the inverter for other appliances.
@@TrueNorthAdventures true. But I was looking for people using 12v appliances.
"for your KAUHH"
Or even for your KAUHH. 😉
That Stevie bloke looks like she should be a jockey
He was in the final round of casting for the hobbit but didn’t get it because he was too small…
Curry should make your nose run and your tongue ecstatic.
And you have to change out your cookware to induction compatible. 😕
Yeh you definitely have to check but most cookware is already induction compatible now days
May as well pack the wife if ya bringing the whole kitchen
😂😂
😢 "Promosm"
Yeh spot on mate. But we tried to keep it as lighthearted and informative as possible. Hope you enjoyed it 👍
click bait its a 120v-220v not 12v 👎
Runs off of a 12v battery 🤷♂️
That's not real camping. Starting a camp fire is. And who wants to lug around a big battery in the woods just to power a stove? These stoves are ok at home or even on a road trip if you have the power in the car. Next video...73
Agree mate! 👍 definitely not for hiking and we always still light a camp fire in the evenings. We use ours in the car for convenience and when there is a fire ban and we cannot light fires
@@TrueNorthAdventures that's good and quick stops at a rest area. Same as my butane stove. Even fire bans I still can get away with using my stove. The only fire ban I was in was when it was so dry during the forth of July all the fireworks displays were cancelled. We went to the mountains and no ban was there. 73
learn how to cook first you will need less time ,,
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