I have nothing to add to this since I study classical voice with a teacher at my school, but I’ve been hoping to come across this type of YT content for contemporary/pop singing. Online vocal coaches use such weird and often conflicting jargon that it’s hard to parse what’s going to be useful and not cause lasting damage to the voice.
I'm glad man. I'm classically trained too; all my teachers were operatic! I just shape it a little differently, use compression, not use as much air pressure, and add distortion and gualá! (I don't wanna sing opera). So it's classical technique + the non-nonsense way of seeing laryngeal mechanisms. Which obviously can't be mixed. Pavarotti agrees the tenor voice is constructed from scratch and artificial, which is just him saying you build it from M2: ua-cam.com/video/w2z1fV-GwQg/v-deo.htmlsi=Nzb8FjEuggn3D5oN&t=273 - Plus I could ask my last teacher to try to make his 'chest high C's from M2 and of course, he could! The chestiest sound of all time: M2! Yet UA-cam vocal coaches will be like PUSH AND STRAIN, IT SOUNDS AWESOMELY POWERFUL! 🤣And never even get close to the 100% live consistency of opera singers.
@@M2Singing dude as a tenor still trying to crack through the upper register, my misuse of M2 might be exactly what’s holding me back. Thanks for the reply!
Love Chris Liepe. I don't know if his lessons would work for everyone. But they have been an incredible help for me. It's funny, because he is less scientific, and more feeling-based. But the way he teaches is so relatable to pretty much everyone, and thus accessible to everyone who has some understanding. He also doesn't shove some bullshit $2000 "BECOME THE BEST SINGER INTHE UNIVERSE 😱😱😱" voice course down your throat either. Great guy. Respect.
Chris is a really awesome guy and the content is really good. That many subscribers and still interacts with everybody. You can tell he's a genuine person and not just out to hawk a program.
I cannot stand Ken Tamplin. He also pretends to be a baritone for some reason. His knowledge about vocalpeagogy is dangerously low. I don't expect contemporary singers to be an expect in vocal pedagogy but as vocal coach you should know at least something about it. I caught him giving terrible advice on his forum. He seems to be jealous of famous singers. But he does have a program, that works for some people. Chris Liepe is fantastic, he actually teaches people things they want to know.
Honestly, it's C-R-A-Z-Y that you put Cheryl Porter in C tier. She is S tier easily. She's one of the most accomplished teachers, her personality/energy is unmatched by anyone, and her sound itself is diverse and well developed. Easily S tier. Also I don't hold it against you wanting to give a lil kiss to the Liepe dome. There's just something about a well polished bowl 😂. Chris is the real deal though, and he pushes up into S-tier because his sound is great and his methodology helps people to explore lots of sounds and figure out their internal way of relating to their body.
Out of all of them, I find Robert to be the best one as I have gone through countless courses and his method of teaching is right on. Plus, he also advocates the " no hidden area in the voice called mixed voice" which most vocal youtube gurus are all about. Plus he studied opera too. That's just my opinion. The fact that he studied with David Kyle, the teacher of Layne Staley, Chris Cornell and other Seattle greats is also a huge bonus.
Wait why didn’t you elaborate on Cheryl 😭 I’m not a singer, but when I watch her long style videos with individual students at a time, you can hear improvements even after one lesson
Ok, some of my favorite YT coaches in no particular order: Chris Liepe, Sterling Jackson (he is like Marc Martel but for Chris Cornell and also very versatile), Keegan from Bohemian Vocal Studio, Floor Jansen (no wonder Nightwish got even more popular since she joined the band), Sybila Extreme Vocals (might the best coach when it comes to varied types on anything screaming related), Justin from Hungry Lights (now lead vocals for Tallah- also very good on different screaming techniques) and of course our lord and saviour from technical bull**it- Marc Ajax- the one that makes us all sit back, chill, be in tune with our voice and just cleanse from all the theory we eat up. You might know Marc, cool guy. Makes Blaine Pepsi jokes. 😂😂😂😂
Hahaha awww 😭 you're so nice; I appreciate you. Totally! Sterling's last cover of Like A Stone sounded phenomenal for sure. But I didn't know much else to add him here. Need to check out Floor Jansen
@@M2Singing she has only 3 vocal tutorials but they're in my daily routine - perfect for female range and varied techniques. So I had to put her here. She was a coach for years before she got with Nightwish apparently.
I respected Sterling Jackson until I suspect he got butthurt and blocked me from his channel for challenging him on his claim that F#4 is a baritone break. The break lies between Eb4-G4 for tenors and baritones alike. He should know better but doesn't.
@@deathrattle216 is that so relevant though? No offense, but it seems like a tiring subject to bring up. I see it everywhere. I think we should focus more on being in tune with our voice and just feel what feels like a passage to us. The fact he is not fixated on that actually makes me respect him more.
Eric Arceneaux, Bohemian Vocal Studio, and Leo Maia are legit. Michael Trimble, Sevana Salmasi, and Jose Simerilla Romero if you're into classical technique. Frankly, I watch more opera coaches than contemporary coaches.
Thats interesting. Don’t remember much but I remember seeing his videos back in the day and not specifically getting anything out of it but not feeling negatively about it either so probably a Solid B-A probably; very neutral about it. What’s your take?
@@M2Singing well, i think that because of that his capable of demonstrating it as a baritone then i think it's definetly achievable. And i seen some student of his on youtube (no baritone that demonstrate his vocal ability as a tenor (havent serach to much though, but he says that you can find student in his courses). Though he didn't seem to answer what's doable or not on his videos.And the stamina to pull it of regulary (in chest), i don't know about that. Me, myself i have trained alot of years with no course and have discovered (i think as Chris liepe said)that best aproch of expanding your range in a safe way is to extend your vocal bridge a little bit more and more, to grab that sweetspot of head and chest transission, and if your to low then you drag chest and to high then it's head. This i think it's the safest way to get a really chesty mix (but im not a vocal coach so i can't be for sure).lastly: how do you sing in high distorsion without increasing volume in chest and how do Chris liepe get his distorted mix voice sound and is he a baritone or not? And you haven't consider that you could be a low tenor with a bigger lower range, you sound very tenor like when you speak?Great video, thanks👍
@@sbmf319 to quote Pavarotti, the human normal voice is the baritone voice; the tenor voice is an artificial voice, which must be constructed. If you’ve seen my covers (Man In The Box, Cochise, Welcome to the jungle) those notes are in my M2 laryngeal mechanism (usually called falsetto) so it’s my artificial voice that I’ve created and has nothing to do with my predetermined baritone voice. On top of that, most my opera teachers did say I was a baritone (like 6 of them) and 1 of them said low or dramatic tenor. However I stick to the Pavarotti quote and not let it bother me. My academy is based on taking M2 (post-Voice crack) and growing it into the sounds (my covers are at a channel called “Marc Ajax Singing” & if you’re ever interested in my approach it’s at www.m2.academy ) much love to you bro
Would you consider checking out and reviewing the vocal course Dan Tompkins from TesseracT just put out? He’s an insanely good singer, but I’m always skeptical of courses. Cheers
Ya que hablas español, te comento en español. Tristan es posiblemente uno de los peores cantando. No puede aplicar nada de lo que enseña y no tiene un desarrollo didáctico de sus investigaciones, por lo que sólo se queda en un conocimiento abstracto/científico sin praxis.
@@franciscorapalo5 Nunca lo investigué tanto; sólo me gustaba que se refiriera a esos estudios científicos de la voz, aunque también dejó de hacerlo creo. Gracias por el comentario bro
@@M2Singing yo lo conozco también de esa época, y diría que se vendió bastante, por lo que vi sus comentarios suelen ser ahora muy generales. Creo que nunca logró aplicar de manera práctica su conocimiento, y por lo que veo vos sí, así que te felicito por eso.
M1.5 *fart sounds*
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I have nothing to add to this since I study classical voice with a teacher at my school, but I’ve been hoping to come across this type of YT content for contemporary/pop singing. Online vocal coaches use such weird and often conflicting jargon that it’s hard to parse what’s going to be useful and not cause lasting damage to the voice.
I'm glad man. I'm classically trained too; all my teachers were operatic! I just shape it a little differently, use compression, not use as much air pressure, and add distortion and gualá! (I don't wanna sing opera). So it's classical technique + the non-nonsense way of seeing laryngeal mechanisms.
Which obviously can't be mixed. Pavarotti agrees the tenor voice is constructed from scratch and artificial, which is just him saying you build it from M2: ua-cam.com/video/w2z1fV-GwQg/v-deo.htmlsi=Nzb8FjEuggn3D5oN&t=273 - Plus I could ask my last teacher to try to make his 'chest high C's from M2 and of course, he could! The chestiest sound of all time: M2!
Yet UA-cam vocal coaches will be like PUSH AND STRAIN, IT SOUNDS AWESOMELY POWERFUL! 🤣And never even get close to the 100% live consistency of opera singers.
@@M2Singing dude as a tenor still trying to crack through the upper register, my misuse of M2 might be exactly what’s holding me back. Thanks for the reply!
Love Chris Liepe. I don't know if his lessons would work for everyone. But they have been an incredible help for me. It's funny, because he is less scientific, and more feeling-based. But the way he teaches is so relatable to pretty much everyone, and thus accessible to everyone who has some understanding. He also doesn't shove some bullshit $2000 "BECOME THE BEST SINGER INTHE UNIVERSE 😱😱😱" voice course down your throat either. Great guy. Respect.
Chris is a really awesome guy and the content is really good. That many subscribers and still interacts with everybody. You can tell he's a genuine person and not just out to hawk a program.
@@deathrattle216 Exactly!!!!! Well said.
Marc I don't sing at all and I'm not interested in trying to sing but I find you and your content very entertaining.
@@joe-hl9rl Let’s GOOOO
TIER LIST YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
I cannot stand Ken Tamplin. He also pretends to be a baritone for some reason. His knowledge about vocalpeagogy is dangerously low. I don't expect contemporary singers to be an expect in vocal pedagogy but as vocal coach you should know at least something about it. I caught him giving terrible advice on his forum. He seems to be jealous of famous singers. But he does have a program, that works for some people. Chris Liepe is fantastic, he actually teaches people things they want to know.
Honestly, it's C-R-A-Z-Y that you put Cheryl Porter in C tier. She is S tier easily. She's one of the most accomplished teachers, her personality/energy is unmatched by anyone, and her sound itself is diverse and well developed. Easily S tier.
Also I don't hold it against you wanting to give a lil kiss to the Liepe dome. There's just something about a well polished bowl 😂. Chris is the real deal though, and he pushes up into S-tier because his sound is great and his methodology helps people to explore lots of sounds and figure out their internal way of relating to their body.
Where's Daniel Formica, Felipe Carvalho and Gregory West? Those guys are legit
Oh my god I think actually remember that bohemian Rhapsody cover I can't really find it either now
@@ben-jerry-dover8363 NO WAYYYYYYYY DUDEEE HAHAHA I was so sure and also simultaneously not surprised he went out of his way to have it deleted ☠️
Very entertaining. Have you ever heard of "Rebecca Vocal Athlete"? If so curious what you think of her
I'm taking notes for a potential part 2 then! I do remember a lot by her actually.
Out of all of them, I find Robert to be the best one as I have gone through countless courses and his method of teaching is right on. Plus, he also advocates the " no hidden area in the voice called mixed voice" which most vocal youtube gurus are all about. Plus he studied opera too. That's just my opinion. The fact that he studied with David Kyle, the teacher of Layne Staley, Chris Cornell and other Seattle greats is also a huge bonus.
Surprised Hannah Bayles isn’t on here, maybe she’s not as well known as I thought. She’s the only vocal teacher I watch on UA-cam
shes super entertaining! and shes coached like a ton of nominated broadway lead singers, thats how ya know shes good
Wait why didn’t you elaborate on Cheryl 😭
I’m not a singer, but when I watch her long style videos with individual students at a time, you can hear improvements even after one lesson
We all know Marc is the best vocal coach on UA-cam, THE ONLY SCIENTIFIC SINGING MECHANISM ON UA-cam! (I love saying this)
Ok, some of my favorite YT coaches in no particular order: Chris Liepe, Sterling Jackson (he is like Marc Martel but for Chris Cornell and also very versatile), Keegan from Bohemian Vocal Studio, Floor Jansen (no wonder Nightwish got even more popular since she joined the band), Sybila Extreme Vocals (might the best coach when it comes to varied types on anything screaming related), Justin from Hungry Lights (now lead vocals for Tallah- also very good on different screaming techniques) and of course our lord and saviour from technical bull**it- Marc Ajax- the one that makes us all sit back, chill, be in tune with our voice and just cleanse from all the theory we eat up. You might know Marc, cool guy. Makes Blaine Pepsi jokes. 😂😂😂😂
Hahaha awww 😭 you're so nice; I appreciate you. Totally! Sterling's last cover of Like A Stone sounded phenomenal for sure. But I didn't know much else to add him here. Need to check out Floor Jansen
@@M2Singing she has only 3 vocal tutorials but they're in my daily routine - perfect for female range and varied techniques. So I had to put her here. She was a coach for years before she got with Nightwish apparently.
I respected Sterling Jackson until I suspect he got butthurt and blocked me from his channel for challenging him on his claim that F#4 is a baritone break. The break lies between Eb4-G4 for tenors and baritones alike. He should know better but doesn't.
@@deathrattle216 is that so relevant though? No offense, but it seems like a tiring subject to bring up. I see it everywhere. I think we should focus more on being in tune with our voice and just feel what feels like a passage to us. The fact he is not fixated on that actually makes me respect him more.
Eric Arceneaux, Bohemian Vocal Studio, and Leo Maia are legit. Michael Trimble, Sevana Salmasi, and Jose Simerilla Romero if you're into classical technique. Frankly, I watch more opera coaches than contemporary coaches.
what do you think about this guy?: Eli Prinsen's Hybrid Vocal Technique
Thats interesting. Don’t remember much but I remember seeing his videos back in the day and not specifically getting anything out of it but not feeling negatively about it either so probably a Solid B-A probably; very neutral about it. What’s your take?
@@M2Singing well, i think that because of that his capable of demonstrating it as a baritone then i think it's definetly achievable. And i seen some student of his on youtube (no baritone that demonstrate his vocal ability as a tenor (havent serach to much though, but he says that you can find student in his courses). Though he didn't seem to answer what's doable or not on his videos.And the stamina to pull it of regulary (in chest), i don't know about that. Me, myself i have trained alot of years with no course and have discovered (i think as Chris liepe said)that best aproch of expanding your range in a safe way is to extend your vocal bridge a little bit more and more, to grab that sweetspot of head and chest transission, and if your to low then you drag chest and to high then it's head. This i think it's the safest way to get a really chesty mix (but im not a vocal coach so i can't be for sure).lastly: how do you sing in high distorsion without increasing volume in chest and how do Chris liepe get his distorted mix voice sound and is he a baritone or not? And you haven't consider that you could be a low tenor with a bigger lower range, you sound very tenor like when you speak?Great video, thanks👍
@@sbmf319 to quote Pavarotti, the human normal voice is the baritone voice; the tenor voice is an artificial voice, which must be constructed. If you’ve seen my covers (Man In The Box, Cochise, Welcome to the jungle) those notes are in my M2 laryngeal mechanism (usually called falsetto) so it’s my artificial voice that I’ve created and has nothing to do with my predetermined baritone voice. On top of that, most my opera teachers did say I was a baritone (like 6 of them) and 1 of them said low or dramatic tenor. However I stick to the Pavarotti quote and not let it bother me. My academy is based on taking M2 (post-Voice crack) and growing it into the sounds (my covers are at a channel called “Marc Ajax Singing” & if you’re ever interested in my approach it’s at www.m2.academy ) much love to you bro
please say "butter" in a british accent at the start of your next video for absolutely no reason
i misread the thumbnail for a second as "Are they all bald!?"
No that's just me 🤣
@@M2Singing well Liepe is proper BALD so you've got some competition
LESSSGOOOO, NEW VID
Bro I thought you were European, I wouldn't have thought you were Argentinian🤑🤑.
I got mentioned in the video 😮
Would you consider checking out and reviewing the vocal course Dan Tompkins from TesseracT just put out? He’s an insanely good singer, but I’m always skeptical of courses. Cheers
Extreme Vocal Institute is very good for more intense vocal sounds
Cornelius from Voice Studio East is also really good but he's also incredibly spergy and tends to get bogged down in technical jargon.
pay 1000 for a list of songs
marc: .......c
@@Johnathan-hj3mm HHHHAHAHHA should’ve been H for hell
Ya que hablas español, te comento en español. Tristan es posiblemente uno de los peores cantando. No puede aplicar nada de lo que enseña y no tiene un desarrollo didáctico de sus investigaciones, por lo que sólo se queda en un conocimiento abstracto/científico sin praxis.
@@franciscorapalo5 Nunca lo investigué tanto; sólo me gustaba que se refiriera a esos estudios científicos de la voz, aunque también dejó de hacerlo creo. Gracias por el comentario bro
@@M2Singing yo lo conozco también de esa época, y diría que se vendió bastante, por lo que vi sus comentarios suelen ser ahora muy generales. Creo que nunca logró aplicar de manera práctica su conocimiento, y por lo que veo vos sí, así que te felicito por eso.
@@franciscorapalo5 wow gracias mi hermano 🙏
Can you suggest some vocal coaches that gives you good information in singing?
Chris Liepe, Sam Johnson
I've heard of this academy recently... "M2 Academy"; it's pretty good, very science-based 😌
@@M2Singing hahaha😂 good one.
@@M2Singing Waiting for part #2 hehehe
Victoria Rapanan would be A or S in my book, but she’s not on this list