Hello, thank you very much for the clear and helpful demonstration. I love the idea of marking the pen at the right number of clicks for different doses. Thank you for posting
Ive been using my 10mg pen well beyond 6 weeks, taking it all the way to 8-10 weeks, the medicine still works fine, its been stored in the fridge at 3°C. This is just a way for big pharma to get you to throw away the pen so you keep buying them
@raghadtv you will roughly receive 7.5mg dose from the 10mg mounjaro Kwikpen device if you count 45 clicks. These are rough estimated calculations based on Kwikpen devices click count
Hey, would love help here. I have 10mg pen and it's recommended to inject 0.6ml weekly. however I want to inject 0.3ml, how many clicks is that please?
@haneeenss please don't calculate in ml, the correct dose is in mg. Starting dose is 2.5mg. I'll share another video explaining all pens with click count
Can the click counter go forwards and backwards in a new kwikpen without damaging the mechanism inside it? (In case i count my dosage wrongly and i need to recount it). Thank you!
Thank you for the quick answer @@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified! After my first dose yesterday (which was half a dose of the 5mg Kwikpen), I started getting pains today accros my body. It is nothing that stops me from moving or doing any other function so i dont feel bad but i have a hypersensitivity in my body (for example the weight of the shirt that i am wearing on my sholders hurts). Is this a regular effect of taking mounjaro? Of course I will consult with my doctor, but I wanted to check if you have any insight into this situation as well. Thanks!
I have a brand new 7.5 pen and been advised to not use this doseage and stick to 5mg. How many clicks do I need to get this dose out of my pen please. Thankyou for your help, I’m desperate to know how? 😊
Hi, what do you have the vials / small bottles, if so, just put less in the syringe Say you have a 10ml strength bottle there is at least 5mg liquid ( sometimes 6 or 7 as when i used the needles the cheap diabetes needles go to 5 but there was still plenty in the bottle, a few times i got 8mg ) so you have a 10mg strength bottle, if you want 5 strength just 1/2 fill the syring so instead of 5 fill it to 2.5 For the price of a 10 strength bottle, you can have 4 x 2.4 3 x 3.3 2 x 5 works out much cheaper, i used top but the 15 bottles and get 3 x 5's out of it saved plenty of money over 12 months All with doctors guidance, often some strength bottles were unavailable so my GP would give a new prescription at the highest amount the chemist shop had in stock
This seems like a great solution to save money on your pens if you are not insurance covered, however people are saying that the injection mechanism breaks after 4 doses, so you can only get 4 doses out. If anyone is clever enough to work out how to get round this, I and many other people would be very grateful!
@@eeedee1298 four doses come out safely and can be cut be calculated with click count. The leftover fluid comes out as a whole and can't be taken off using click counts. That's only suitable for those taking full dose
@Esmailpour that's on the boxed label. So medicolegally this has to be mentioned because UA-cam isn't a replacement for medical advice. Please ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist. Stay safe while looking after your health
Hi I have 5 mg pen for one months can I use same pen instead for two month . I just want to use 2.5gm every weak . And what will happen if i use same pen for two months . Thank you
@zulaikhabasharat5118 the recommendation from company is not to exceed usage beyond 6 weeks as efficacy of molecule is questionable if device used longer than 6 weeks... however patients have used it for up to 8 weeks. As long as you have your endocrinologist supervision, storage is correct, fluid is clear and clinical response is good, you may be OK 👍 But ensure you have your endocrinologist endorsing your dosing decision
I think this advice was meant for those who have been given a pen and found the dose to be too strong. Instead of throwing the pen away and getting a lower dose pen you could reduce the amount dispensed from your current pen. Quite handy if you're paying for them yourself... I think he was showing each 2.5 to simplify how to divide the doses, in the UK we have to step up from 2.5 so wouldn't have access to a 15mg pen until we had each pen dose from 2.5 to 12.5 for at least a month each so I can get 15mg after 6 months.
Can you just use an in insulin needle to extract and administer this medication from the get go? So then i dont have to worry about how many clicks means what?@MrJaxDemon
@@kaythimyint5783 I'll make another video to show all pen devices with calculations with each mounjaro Kwikpen device soon. Hopefully this week I'll upload
@DinasUmhassn any extra dose left in the pen should be used with new needle. The pen is usually perfectly fine to be used till 6 weeks Ensure child chain is maintained and you have endocrinologist supervision for ongoing usage with correct dosing regime
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified sure doctor I have extra new needles and I’m following with my doctor, I mean how to get use of the extra dose according to the clicks as you explained in this video?
@DinasUmhassn your dose will be decided by your doctor and adjusted as per response. I try to get maximum response from minimum dose to avoid side effects and prevent relapsed weight gain. It's best to always have starting dose of 0.25mg and go as per your response. It's best to discuss this with your endocrinologist. This demonstration was for someone who couldn't tolerate high dose and needed to take lower dose from the high dose pen. Later on they went on their higher dose as clinically needed
If you keep it in the fridge between administrations, would the molecule stop being effective? - I'm still on 2.5mg for the second month now, don't feel the need to go up, so using half the dose currently, so this 5mg pen should last 2 months.
@DigiDriftZone it's should be OK for good 6 weeks. Some patients have used same pen for 8 weeks without any problems as long as the storage is fine in fridge. Ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified Thank you, In the UK there's no supervision, you get them online. The websites then encourage you increase your dose, but I'm finding 2.5mg is still more than effective enough for my goals.
@DigiDriftZone There should never be any compromise on health and safely. Please ensure you have proper advise. One sad case is too many for me. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6jg6nw2zeo Nurse’s death linked to approved weight-loss drug MOUNJARO published on BBC website 8 November 2024 Catriona MacPhee and James Cheyne BBC Disclosure
Hello, Thanks for such amazing video. Im planning to get 15 mg pen and divide it to 8 doses 7.5 which means Im going to make 8 clicks. My question foes the pen support this or it has max of clicks =4 ??? Thanks in advance
I was wondering this as they lock after 4 uses of a full dose so my brain thinks they might lock after four uses of a lower dose. It depends on the dose I guess as a 2.5mg shot from a 15mg pen might not trigger the locking mechanism but 10 or 12.5mg from a 15 mg pen possibly could - there are videos on UA-cam that claim the locking mechanism can be overcome that might help if it does lock up...
@timmoers9718 yes that's the instruction from company to guarantee efficacy of medication. Most molecules with protein components get denatured with time and lose efficacy. Hence this instruction is given. In clinical practice we have seen patients use effectively for 8 weeks and longer when COVID lock down and drug shortages were issue. You must ensure having supervision of your endocrinologist
Hallo, i have the same question. this morning i took my first dose of 5mg pen and start with 2.5mg. in total the pen had 60 clicks i did about half of that so 30 clicks. i hope this is ok?
So if I am getting 7.5 mg. And I have 15mg pen that means 15x4 plus extra dose means 75mg so I can get 10 doses. The pen is valid till expiry date if kept in the fridge bet 2-8 degrees. Aside from efficacy and side effects can the pen be rotated ten times for 10 doses? That will save almost 50% of the cost
@@rahimk687That's what Eli Lilly want you to follow so they can maximise profits. But people have been keeping it in the fridge and using it far longer than the 30 days, with no loss of efficacy.
You can use 7.5mg Kwikpenpen device of mounjaro as: 20 clicks will give you 2.5mg 40 clicks will give you 5mg Full dose is 7.5mg Please ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist
So to clarify, the 5mg dose when 0 is aligned for the first time you twist the pen, then 10mg is when the 0 is aligned for the second time you twist it around, dont even need to count or mark those really
@devious05 I'll try to make another video on this again. There are different mounjaro Kwikpen device strengths like 2.5mg pen, 5mg pen and so on till 15mg pen. This video shown is highlighting only the 15mg mounjaro Kwikpen device to be used for click count and take 5mg dose from it by counting 20 clicks. Every time you count 20 clicks you get 5mg dose. After the dose injected the dial will come back to start position and you restart click from point 0. Please watch my other videos on injection technique and how dial rotates when you inject
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified I'm not disagreeing with that, My point was that you dont really need to count/mark for 20 as it always aligns with the 0 being to the right on the 15mg pen. I've updated my original comment, as perhaps you think I meant when i said first time I meant first dose, when I mean, first time you twist the pen around while doing the clicks
@emmadavies9838 that's sadly costly mistake. You can't get 12.5mg dose from 10mg mounjaro Kwikpen device. It will be two injection shots and become quite costly option
@MohamedIbrahim-hj9li it has been used for longer than 6 weeks by some patients. But be careful about efficacy of molecule and speak to your endocrinologist if response not appropriate or any injection site reaction
Put it in the fridge immediately after purchasing it. Your pharmacy should've received it cooled. If that is the case and you keep it cooled all the time, you can use it until the expiration date. The expiration date on my pens was 8 months in the future.
@shirleyhastings1003 after 4 weeks you should get clinical judgement from your endocrinologist to decide about dose escalation. I normally avoid dose increases and utilise other mechanisms along with same dose of mounjaro to avoid treatment failure or weight regain. Please discuss with your endocrinologist further advice
Never seen a Mounjaro pen that clicks. Only see the ones you use once in discard, I get the 15s I take them apart I put them in a bottle and I use a syringe
@sarahMaan-dw3cu you can count 24 clicks to receive 5mg. Ensure you have supervision vision of your endocrinologist, the fluid in pen is clear and your pen doesn't exceed the recommended duration of use... Good luck
Hi, I have a 2.5 pen and want to start very low at 1 as mine is mainly for all the other benefits rather than solely weight loss. Can you advise how many clicks please x
Thanks for the amazing instructions If im using the 15mg pen and only having 2.5mg weekly for the first 4 weeks, will it be 10 clicks from 0 for the first dose, and then 10 clicks from the 0 for the second dose as well? Or is it an additional 10 clicks from the 0 now (ie 20 clicks total)?
@Andrewg1378 please ensure you have your Endocrinologist supervision to decide about correct dosing. Yes, 10 clicks deliver about 2.5mg dose from the 15mg pen device. Please be mindful that the longer the duration of pen device after opening the lower can be efficacy of the molecule... usually after 6 to 8 weeks the company doesn't advise pen usage
I ‘m having the same question, we count , for the 2nd,3rd etc week the same 10 clicks or we add 10 clicks every week? ( 2nd week-20 clicks, 3rd week- 30 clicks and so on)
@SachetBlanc 10 clicks on the 15mg mounjaro Kwikpen device is going to roughly administer 2.5mg dose which needs to be the same for 4 weeks at least. So you will do 10 clicks each time. You need supervision of your endocrinologist to help you decide your next month dose. For 1st month you will do same 10 clicks with each dose
The 15mg pen comes with 4 doses of 15mg each. If I follow the instructions shown in the video and use a dosage of 7.5mg, can I conclude that I will have 8 doses of 7.5mg by the end of its use?
@@stanislawstrach It should be possible to turn the PEN down again with a little force. But I bought diabetes syringes at the pharmacy and stick them in at the top. This needle is just as thin as the one from the pen. One dose is 0,6ml.
@@rubeenamohroo you can roughly get 2.5mg by counting 12 clicks on a 12.5mg mounjaro Kwikpen device. Please ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist and stay safe
Hello, I have a 5mg pen but it’s too strong for me. The 2.5mg dose is too weak. Can you help me understand how many clicks I would need to dispense 3.5mg. Thank you 🙏
@vicyy please check which pen device you have. If you have the 5mg pen device, then you need 30 clicks to get 2.5mg dose but please ensure you show your device to your endocrinologist to avoid wrong dosing
@Baheth569 if you have the 7.5mg pen then you have to inject twice with full dose of 7.5mg (60 clicks) and another 2.5mg (20 clicks) but this is be very costly option. Go for 10mg pen device instead
Can you share the link to where Lilly states a UK kwikpen can be used for 6 weeks after first use. All patient instructions and Lilly websites state 30 days from first use. Obviously it makes sense to question instructions shared on youtube which contradict patient instructions and while I see many people saying "it will be fine" I have not seen actually credible information from Lilly.
Put it immediately into a fridge after buying, and you can use it longer than 30 days. The 30-day limit is for when you don't keep it cooled after purchasing. If you cool it without interruption you can use it until the stated expiration date. For my pens that was 8 months in the future.
This is maybe a stupid question. But isn’t the 2.5/5/7.5/10/12.5/15mg the strengths of the dose? So would taking half of a 15mg pen dose have the exact same affect as 7.5mg pen x 1 dose? If yes then why wouldn’t everyone buy a 15mg pen and use the relevant clicks to dose at 2.5/5/7.5 etc and save a bunch of money?
Anyone has used the same mounjaro 15mg pen for longer the 6 weeks. Is the medication still effective or it doesn’t work anymore? It is cheaper for me to buy 50 mg pen to use over period of two months.
@saromaz6952 , ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist to judge your clinical response. You don't want to be injecting a chemical in your body while not knowing what's it doing, esp if the usage is beyond the recommended box instructions and efficacy of molecule is questionable.
@ninaplei8519 people have used it off licence use, but efficiency can't be guaranteed after 6 weeks. That's why supervision of your endocrinologist is important for your own safety and getting adequate clinical response.
I’ve used mine for longer and it definitely still worked. In U.K. they’re now coming with an added sheet of paper to say they’ve got a longer shelf life. Also look on the side of the pen and it will say the expiry date (my one I’ve just finished Aug 24 says expiry date Jan 25. I don’t know about Mounjaro, but the wegovy instructions say you shouldn’t use if the liquid is cloudy.
Sorry but you are wrong. Every pen has 4 doses with 15 mg in every dose, so 60 mg in every pen IN TOTAL. With 60 clicks per pen IN TOTAL that's 1 mg per click. So a 2.5 mg dose will be 2.5 clicks. If you are counting 10 clicks you are taking a 10 mg dose, not 2.5 mg. Again, EVERY PEN HAS 4 DOSES SO THAT'S 60 MG PER PEN. IF EVERY PEN HAS 60 CLICKS THEN 1 CLICK IS 1 MG. Of course maybe there is a misunderstanding in your video, maybe what you really want to say BUT YOU DID NOT SAY is that EVERY DOSE has 60 clicks, so then we will have 240 clicks PER PEN. Is that the problem? The very first thing you have to explain is HOW MANY CLICKS EACH PEN HAS. And then we could do all the calculations from there.
@Taxidermista_de_Phobos thank you for doing the hard work but please ensure you have you have supervision of your endocrinologist as you are not understanding what I have shown the video. Health and safety comes first. With due respect, You have done the wrong completely interpretation ... please watch the video again carefully and also go to your endocrinologist to ensure you are doing it right. One full dial is 60 clicks not what you understood. Please remember its a drug being injected so don't ignore supervision of your endocrinologist
injecting less liquid means that medication do not work as intended because you have less medication in your dermal layer and it absorb differently so this is stupid idea
Such a nice, clear and well done explanation and video. Thanks a lot . Greetings from Brazil.
Hello, thank you very much for the clear and helpful demonstration. I love the idea of marking the pen at the right number of clicks for different doses. Thank you for posting
@@Cathy-r8f thank you for feedback
This video is extremely helpful - thank you 😊
Ive been using my 10mg pen well beyond 6 weeks, taking it all the way to 8-10 weeks, the medicine still works fine, its been stored in the fridge at 3°C. This is just a way for big pharma to get you to throw away the pen so you keep buying them
@@Jjengering thank you for sharing
How did you calculate the doses ? i just bought a 10mg and i wanna take 7.5
@raghadtv you will roughly receive 7.5mg dose from the 10mg mounjaro Kwikpen device if you count 45 clicks. These are rough estimated calculations based on Kwikpen devices click count
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified thank you! 🤍
So the clicker still works after4 doses? They say it doesn't
Saving this video - lifesaver. Thank you!
Thanks for the amazing instructions, does it expire after 4 weeks ? I store it in the fridge
I suggest sterilising the top of the pen to extend the expiry time of 30 days after first use
@@alexausberlin
Thank you finally perfect explanation
@@Motivational_Flavio your welcome
Hi im on 7.5 and brought a 10, but thinking i should have gone down intead of up,how many clicks for 5 ml on a 7.5 pen thankyou
Hey, would love help here. I have 10mg pen and it's recommended to inject 0.6ml weekly. however I want to inject 0.3ml, how many clicks is that please?
@haneeenss please don't calculate in ml, the correct dose is in mg. Starting dose is 2.5mg. I'll share another video explaining all pens with click count
How can I buy that one ?
@@Renataabd prescription from your endocrinologist and buy from pharmacy
Can the click counter go forwards and backwards in a new kwikpen without damaging the mechanism inside it? (In case i count my dosage wrongly and i need to recount it). Thank you!
@@milosnenadovic9086 yes it does
Thank you for the quick answer @@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified!
After my first dose yesterday (which was half a dose of the 5mg Kwikpen), I started getting pains today accros my body. It is nothing that stops me from moving or doing any other function so i dont feel bad but i have a hypersensitivity in my body (for example the weight of the shirt that i am wearing on my sholders hurts). Is this a regular effect of taking mounjaro?
Of course I will consult with my doctor, but I wanted to check if you have any insight into this situation as well. Thanks!
@@milosnenadovic9086How many clicks was it to reach 2.5 on a 5MG pen?
I have a brand new 7.5 pen and been advised to not use this doseage and stick to 5mg. How many clicks do I need to get this dose out of my pen please. Thankyou for your help, I’m desperate to know how? 😊
Ihave the 10mg dose and i have to take 5 mg , How many clicks should I do to get a 5 mg dose from the 10 mg dose?
@@NoorAlhaddad-yk5ir you need 30 clicks on 10mg Mounjaro Kwikpen device to get 5mg dose
Yes, I agree with you but in the US we don’t have Mounjaro quick pens. I wish this was possible. I have used Ozempic and the pens are multi use.
Yes it's the UK and UAE VERSION
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplifiedjust got mine! Im gonna try this since they discontinued the first one due to out of stock
Hi, what do you have the vials / small bottles, if so, just put less in the syringe
Say you have a 10ml strength bottle there is at least 5mg liquid ( sometimes 6 or 7 as when i used the needles the cheap diabetes needles go to 5 but there was still plenty in the bottle, a few times i got 8mg )
so you have a 10mg strength bottle, if you want 5 strength just 1/2 fill the syring so instead of 5 fill it to 2.5
For the price of a 10 strength bottle, you can have
4 x 2.4
3 x 3.3
2 x 5
works out much cheaper, i used top but the 15 bottles and get 3 x 5's out of it saved plenty of money over 12 months
All with doctors guidance, often some strength bottles were unavailable so my GP would give a new prescription at the highest amount the chemist shop had in stock
This seems like a great solution to save money on your pens if you are not insurance covered, however people are saying that the injection mechanism breaks after 4 doses, so you can only get 4 doses out. If anyone is clever enough to work out how to get round this, I and many other people would be very grateful!
@@eeedee1298 four doses come out safely and can be cut be calculated with click count. The leftover fluid comes out as a whole and can't be taken off using click counts. That's only suitable for those taking full dose
So if you are taking the lower does and do the clicks. Do you then just inject it directly and press it at that point?
Yes that's correct. But ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist
lol except for the 6 week comment . great video. i cant think of one reaon why you wouldnt be able to use it for 24 weeks at 2.5MG in one 15MG pen
@Esmailpour that's on the boxed label. So medicolegally this has to be mentioned because UA-cam isn't a replacement for medical advice. Please ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist. Stay safe while looking after your health
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplifiedlol the box also says 4 doses . Hah
@Esmailpour yes it's off label advice
Thank you very much!
Thank you so much for the video 🙏🏻😊
How about a 12.5mg pen
@@Lucky-r7y7w
12 clicks for 2.5mg
24 clicks for 5mg
36 clicks for 7.5mg
48 clicks for 10mg doses from the Mounjaro 12.5mg Kwikpen device
Where can you get extra needles?
@@magedexpatriate the pen doesn't come with any needles. So you need to purchase needles anyway
Hi I have 5 mg pen for one months can I use same pen instead for two month . I just want to use 2.5gm every weak . And what will happen if i use same pen for two months . Thank you
@zulaikhabasharat5118 the recommendation from company is not to exceed usage beyond 6 weeks as efficacy of molecule is questionable if device used longer than 6 weeks... however patients have used it for up to 8 weeks. As long as you have your endocrinologist supervision, storage is correct, fluid is clear and clinical response is good, you may be OK 👍 But ensure you have your endocrinologist endorsing your dosing decision
I’m just starting on 2.5ml on a 5g vile for 8
Weeks as per doctors advice is that still 10
Clicks on the kwikpen?
@kalinkagoc6271 the 5mg pen will give you 2.5mg when you take 30 clicks
Please ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist
If the product should be used in 6 weeks what the benefit of buy a 15mg pen for using 2.5mg each week?
Most likely your insurance charges you the same amount for any dosage
???@@bigbocapedro
I think this advice was meant for those who have been given a pen and found the dose to be too strong. Instead of throwing the pen away and getting a lower dose pen you could reduce the amount dispensed from your current pen. Quite handy if you're paying for them yourself...
I think he was showing each 2.5 to simplify how to divide the doses, in the UK we have to step up from 2.5 so wouldn't have access to a 15mg pen until we had each pen dose from 2.5 to 12.5 for at least a month each so I can get 15mg after 6 months.
I'm confused about the first two clicks ( priming) is it necessary to prime when counting clicks or not
Not priming gives you more in the pen. Once you can't click anymore you can use an insulin needle to withdraw the rest that's left over.
Can you just use an in insulin needle to extract and administer this medication from the get go? So then i dont have to worry about how many clicks means what?@MrJaxDemon
Thank you! The moost helpfull video
@@АзартнаяМорячка your welcome
Does your click count take in account the '5th dose'?
@@DavidHolroyd no it doesn't. When you try to get the 5th dose out, the clicker breaks and counting clicks isn't accurate after that
Whatxabout the manjouro 7.5mg,how to used it
@muchasgraciastravelandtour8243
For 7.5mg mounjaro Kwikpen device you will need 20 clicks to get 2.5mg dose and 40 clicks to get 5mg dose
How do I reset the pen back to 0 after the clicks. If I do 20 clicks for 5ml. Thanks
Did u find out? Do you know how many clicks to get 2.5 from 5 mg pen?
@@laise512 dude 2.5mg is half of 5 mg, so half of 60 clicks is 30...
when u take your shot it will go to 0
Great video and instructions but keep in mind the KwikPen must be discarded 30 days after first use.
@@oHawksTVo it's usually OK till 6 weeks as long as storage is correct
Dear sir , ple share more 😢
Now i can't buy 15 mg , only 12.5 mg, so how to device to 10 mg 😅🎉
@@kaythimyint5783 I'll make another video to show all pen devices with calculations with each mounjaro Kwikpen device soon. Hopefully this week I'll upload
Thanks for this demonstration, but the pen supposed to have an extra dose, so how to use it according to your instructions?
@DinasUmhassn any extra dose left in the pen should be used with new needle. The pen is usually perfectly fine to be used till 6 weeks
Ensure child chain is maintained and you have endocrinologist supervision for ongoing usage with correct dosing regime
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified sure doctor I have extra new needles and I’m following with my doctor, I mean how to get use of the extra dose according to the clicks as you explained in this video?
@DinasUmhassn your dose will be decided by your doctor and adjusted as per response.
I try to get maximum response from minimum dose to avoid side effects and prevent relapsed weight gain.
It's best to always have starting dose of 0.25mg and go as per your response.
It's best to discuss this with your endocrinologist. This demonstration was for someone who couldn't tolerate high dose and needed to take lower dose from the high dose pen. Later on they went on their higher dose as clinically needed
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified I really appreciate your response , Thank you doctor
@@alexausberlin this is not recommended due to risk of cross contamination
If you keep it in the fridge between administrations, would the molecule stop being effective? - I'm still on 2.5mg for the second month now, don't feel the need to go up, so using half the dose currently, so this 5mg pen should last 2 months.
@DigiDriftZone it's should be OK for good 6 weeks. Some patients have used same pen for 8 weeks without any problems as long as the storage is fine in fridge. Ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified Thank you, In the UK there's no supervision, you get them online. The websites then encourage you increase your dose, but I'm finding 2.5mg is still more than effective enough for my goals.
@DigiDriftZone There should never be any compromise on health and safely. Please ensure you have proper advise. One sad case is too many for me.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz6jg6nw2zeo
Nurse’s death linked to approved weight-loss drug MOUNJARO published on BBC website
8 November 2024
Catriona MacPhee and James Cheyne
BBC Disclosure
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified yes indeed, keeping an eye on pancreas function is key. Quite a few deaths linked to pancreas problems.
can i use this same method for 7.5mg pen ?thanks x
@Mumzie7896 yes you can.
For 7.5mg mounjaro Kwikpen device you will need 20 clicks to get 2.5mg dose and 40 clicks to get 5mg dose
how many needles are included?
@@beauxy25 zero needles... see my box opening video so you know exactly what's in it
@@beauxy25 ua-cam.com/video/fRLnDVxiY5I/v-deo.html
What about the 7.5 mg,how can i used it
@muchasgraciastravelandtour8243
For 7.5mg mounjaro Kwikpen device you will need 20 clicks to get 2.5mg dose and 40 clicks to get 5mg dose
Hello,
Thanks for such amazing video. Im planning to get 15 mg pen and divide it to 8 doses 7.5 which means Im going to make 8 clicks. My question foes the pen support this or it has max of clicks =4 ???
Thanks in advance
30 clicks is 7.5mg out of a 15mg pen
I was wondering this as they lock after 4 uses of a full dose so my brain thinks they might lock after four uses of a lower dose. It depends on the dose I guess as a 2.5mg shot from a 15mg pen might not trigger the locking mechanism but 10 or 12.5mg from a 15 mg pen possibly could - there are videos on UA-cam that claim the locking mechanism can be overcome that might help if it does lock up...
What about 5 mg pen to 2.5mg. It is always 60 clicks? That would mean 30 clicks to 2.5?
@namename4479 yes exactly !
@ thank you! 💕
What about the store life in the fridge? The descripton from the pen itself says max 28 days after first injection. After that, throw away the pen...
@timmoers9718 yes that's the instruction from company to guarantee efficacy of medication. Most molecules with protein components get denatured with time and lose efficacy. Hence this instruction is given. In clinical practice we have seen patients use effectively for 8 weeks and longer when COVID lock down and drug shortages were issue. You must ensure having supervision of your endocrinologist
Hello, im getting 5mg quik pen and i need to administer a 2.5mg dose, how many clicks would that be? Still 10? Thank you
Hallo, i have the same question. this morning i took my first dose of 5mg pen and start with 2.5mg. in total the pen had 60 clicks i did about half of that so 30 clicks. i hope this is ok?
@E-lightreader
you need to count 30 clicks on 5mg pen device to receive 2.5mg dose
@@jamy2651 yes you are correct
@@E-lightreader 30 clicks
Can you take half of 2.5mg would that be 5 clicks? Want to start on slow dose to see if it agrees with me first.
@jackiemullen2356 that's not a therapeutic dose because quantity will be too small
So if I am getting 7.5 mg. And I have 15mg pen that means 15x4 plus extra dose means 75mg so I can get 10 doses. The pen is valid till expiry date if kept in the fridge bet 2-8 degrees. Aside from efficacy and side effects can the pen be rotated ten times for 10 doses? That will save almost 50% of the cost
@MoHussein-lm6dp you got it right. Please ensure you have your Endocrinologist supervision
The pen is valid for only 4 weeks once it’s opened (not until the expiry date) so what you’ve just said about saving costs is not possible
@@rahimk687yes that's the official advice
@@rahimk687That's what Eli Lilly want you to follow so they can maximise profits. But people have been keeping it in the fridge and using it far longer than the 30 days, with no loss of efficacy.
@@rahimk687 exactly
What can i do when i get 7.5 device? How to count the clicks
You can use 7.5mg Kwikpenpen device of mounjaro as:
20 clicks will give you 2.5mg
40 clicks will give you 5mg
Full dose is 7.5mg
Please ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist
Can you please let me know the formula for working out the doses for for a 5mg pen and also a 7.5 mg pen?
@@Lisa-kx9ut for 7.5mg pen, if you have side effects and need to go down,
20 clicks give 2.5mg
40 clicks give 5mg
@Lisa-kx9ut for 5mg pen device, if having side effects then 30 clicks give you 2.5mg
Thank you very much.
And doses12.5mg please @@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified
So do I do 40 clicks on a 7.5mg pen to recieve the 5mg dose im already on ?
How do we split 7.5ml dose please 🙏do we half the clicks of the 15?😅
@@angelarose6602 30 clicks on the 15mg Mounjaro Kwikpen device will administer roughly 7.5mg dose
So to clarify, the 5mg dose when 0 is aligned for the first time you twist the pen, then 10mg is when the 0 is aligned for the second time you twist it around, dont even need to count or mark those really
@devious05 no that's wrong interpretation. Please watch again. The same dial will give same dose each time
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified but at 20 clicks or 5mg the 0 is aligned with the window. How is that going to change each time you give it?
@devious05 I'll try to make another video on this again. There are different mounjaro Kwikpen device strengths like 2.5mg pen, 5mg pen and so on till 15mg pen. This video shown is highlighting only the 15mg mounjaro Kwikpen device to be used for click count and take 5mg dose from it by counting 20 clicks. Every time you count 20 clicks you get 5mg dose. After the dose injected the dial will come back to start position and you restart click from point 0. Please watch my other videos on injection technique and how dial rotates when you inject
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified I'm not disagreeing with that, My point was that you dont really need to count/mark for 20 as it always aligns with the 0 being to the right on the 15mg pen. I've updated my original comment, as perhaps you think I meant when i said first time I meant first dose, when I mean, first time you twist the pen around while doing the clicks
Someone told me that the pen is designed to give only 4 doses is it true ?
Yes that's correct ... it's officially designed to give 4 designated doses mentioned on box
Can you get a 12.5 dose from a 10 mg pen i got in error ?
@emmadavies9838 that's sadly costly mistake. You can't get 12.5mg dose from 10mg mounjaro Kwikpen device. It will be two injection shots and become quite costly option
can i keep exceed 6 weeks ? putting it in fridge everytime after using?
@MohamedIbrahim-hj9li it has been used for longer than 6 weeks by some patients. But be careful about efficacy of molecule and speak to your endocrinologist if response not appropriate or any injection site reaction
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified thxx very much
Put it in the fridge immediately after purchasing it. Your pharmacy should've received it cooled. If that is the case and you keep it cooled all the time, you can use it until the expiration date. The expiration date on my pens was 8 months in the future.
Can you increase the clicks? I'm on 7.5 & it's not really working & I've ordered 7.5 again when I should've ordered the 10.mg
@shirleyhastings1003 after 4 weeks you should get clinical judgement from your endocrinologist to decide about dose escalation. I normally avoid dose increases and utilise other mechanisms along with same dose of mounjaro to avoid treatment failure or weight regain. Please discuss with your endocrinologist further advice
Never seen a Mounjaro pen that clicks. Only see the ones you use once in discard, I get the 15s I take them apart I put them in a bottle and I use a syringe
@BK-gc1jm yes that's autoinjector single use pen device. It's being phased out gradually too be replaced by the UK version Kwikpen device with clicks
I took a dose of 12.5, how do I divide it into doses of 7.5 and 10?
@@SallM-x1p 36 clicks for 7.5mg and 48 clicks for 10mg on the Mounjaro Kwikpen 12.5mg device
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified hello i also have the 12.5 but would like to take 2 doses of 5. How many clicks would that be?
@sarahMaan-dw3cu you can count 24 clicks to receive 5mg. Ensure you have supervision vision of your endocrinologist, the fluid in pen is clear and your pen doesn't exceed the recommended duration of use... Good luck
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified thank you very much
Hi, I have a 2.5 pen and want to start very low at 1 as mine is mainly for all the other benefits rather than solely weight loss. Can you advise how many clicks please x
Thanks for the amazing instructions
If im using the 15mg pen and only having 2.5mg weekly for the first 4 weeks, will it be 10 clicks from 0 for the first dose, and then 10 clicks from the 0 for the second dose as well?
Or is it an additional 10 clicks from the 0 now (ie 20 clicks total)?
@Andrewg1378 please ensure you have your Endocrinologist supervision to decide about correct dosing. Yes, 10 clicks deliver about 2.5mg dose from the 15mg pen device. Please be mindful that the longer the duration of pen device after opening the lower can be efficacy of the molecule... usually after 6 to 8 weeks the company doesn't advise pen usage
I ‘m having the same question, we count , for the 2nd,3rd etc week the same 10 clicks or we add 10 clicks every week? ( 2nd week-20 clicks, 3rd week- 30 clicks and so on)
@SachetBlanc 10 clicks on the 15mg mounjaro Kwikpen device is going to roughly administer 2.5mg dose which needs to be the same for 4 weeks at least. So you will do 10 clicks each time. You need supervision of your endocrinologist to help you decide your next month dose. For 1st month you will do same 10 clicks with each dose
How many clicks on 5mg mounjaro pen to get a 2.5mg dose please?
30 clicks
if i have 10mg kwikpen and need to take 5mg dose, how many cliks do i need?
@@jakucyk you will do 30 clicks on this case
The 15mg pen comes with 4 doses of 15mg each. If I follow the instructions shown in the video and use a dosage of 7.5mg, can I conclude that I will have 8 doses of 7.5mg by the end of its use?
@GuilhermeSertorio-nx8ei that's correct and one pen will last 8 weeks unless you change dose from 7.5mg to higher or lower
Actually you will have 10 doses. There is a fifth dose as a rest in the pen. Just use e.g. a Diabetes syringe
@@alexausberlin Hi. How do I get the fifth dose out? Is the pen 'clicable' for fifth dose or do I need to dissasemble it?
@@stanislawstrach It should be possible to turn the PEN down again with a little force.
But I bought diabetes syringes at the pharmacy and stick them in at the top. This needle is just as thin as the one from the pen. One dose is 0,6ml.
@@stanislawstrachSorry, for 7.5mg 0,3
please explain formula for 5mg pen? thanks for this great video
60 Klicks for a full dose. 30 for half of it
60x (Dose you want)/(pen strength)= clicks you need out of 60.
How many clicks in 12.5 mg pen device to take 2.5 mg dose please reply
@@rubeenamohroo you can roughly get 2.5mg by counting 12 clicks on a 12.5mg mounjaro Kwikpen device. Please ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist and stay safe
Hi is this the newst moungaro pen
@@AydaAlmuti yes it is the new Mounjaro pen device
Thank you
Hello, I have a 5mg pen but it’s too strong for me. The 2.5mg dose is too weak. Can you help me understand how many clicks I would need to dispense 3.5mg. Thank you 🙏
It's not a licenced dose but if tolerance issues exist you may try 45 clicks on your Mounjaro 5mg pen which will be more than 2.5mg but less than 5mg
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified thank you! ☺️
@@Endo-Diabetes-SimplifiedHi, I have the same dose, so is it 20 clicks for half of 5mg ?
@vicyy please check which pen device you have. If you have the 5mg pen device, then you need 30 clicks to get 2.5mg dose but please ensure you show your device to your endocrinologist to avoid wrong dosing
This is exactly what I needed to know, thank you 🙏🏻
How many clicks for 2.5 on a 2.5mg pen?
@@tahliamoorhead343 no click count here. It's a full dial
how to dose 2.5 mg with a 5 mg pen how many clicks ?
30 clicks only!
@@janniemann4600 are u sure jannie ? how do u tell it please serious question thx almost
Yes correct, you can do 30 clicks on 5mg pen device to get 2.5mg dose. The pen will finish on 8 weeks
Thank you só much ! 🙏🙏🙏
@@MANUZINHA5072 your welcome
I have 12.5mg, but I’d like to take 7.5mg, do you know how many clicks or how can I do this?
You can’t get that dose exactly however 7.29mg is 35 clicks and 8.33mg is 40 clicks.
36 is exactly 7.5mg
60 x 7.5/12.5 = 36 clicks
60 x (dose you want)/(pen strength) = number of clicks you need
For 10mg multiply by 6 and for 7.5mg multiply by 8
Please, help.
For Mounjaro KwikpPen 12,5?
How to inject 2,5 with 12,5mg injector KwikpPen?
If I understand correct from comments it’s will be 12 clicks…????
@ГлафираДзынь yes you will count 12 clicks on 12.5mg mounjaro Kwikpen device to receive roughly 2.5mg dose
I have a 7.5mg mounjaro & suffer nausea, im due to start the 7.5mg on Monday.. can you tell me how many clicks to get the 5mg dose please
5 mg from a 7.5 mg pen is 40 clicks.
Clicks = (dose required/standard pen dose) x 60
Nausea was fine on 7.5 infact it was like I was injecting water , hasn't really worked with the suppression 😮
Can l take 60 click full dose from 7.5 mg+ extra 20 clicks (2.5mg)= 10 mg because l need 10 mg?? Or can l take extra 10 clicks ( 1.25 mg)?
@Baheth569 if you have the 7.5mg pen then you have to inject twice with full dose of 7.5mg (60 clicks) and another 2.5mg (20 clicks) but this is be very costly option. Go for 10mg pen device instead
@@Baheth569 not to forget that you have supervision of your endocrinologist
Can you share the link to where Lilly states a UK kwikpen can be used for 6 weeks after first use. All patient instructions and Lilly websites state 30 days from first use. Obviously it makes sense to question instructions shared on youtube which contradict patient instructions and while I see many people saying "it will be fine" I have not seen actually credible information from Lilly.
Put it immediately into a fridge after buying, and you can use it longer than 30 days. The 30-day limit is for when you don't keep it cooled after purchasing. If you cool it without interruption you can use it until the stated expiration date. For my pens that was 8 months in the future.
This is maybe a stupid question. But isn’t the 2.5/5/7.5/10/12.5/15mg the strengths of the dose? So would taking half of a 15mg pen dose have the exact same affect as 7.5mg pen x 1 dose? If yes then why wouldn’t everyone buy a 15mg pen and use the relevant clicks to dose at 2.5/5/7.5 etc and save a bunch of money?
I realise there’s an expiration date but and it supposed to be used within 30 days but the expiry dates are for next year sometimes
Because big pharma wouldn’t be making loads of money if everyone knew they could do that .
Because apparently the pen only lasts 30days after first use.
I guess mainly to help elderly people or people with problems to count clicks.
For Mounjaro KwikpPen 10 mg ?
to inject 5mg with 10mg injector KwikpPen.
@@siuldg it's likely to be 30 clicks
@@Endo-Diabetes-Simplified
I took a dose of 12.5, how do I divide it into doses of 7.5 and 10?
For mounjaro kwikppen 5 to inject 2,5 how many clicks I need it ?
@@malunavarrodegrant246130 clicks for 2.5 from a 5 pen
Are you priming the pen before you start the clicks or do you do it after the clicks ?
Anyone has used the same mounjaro 15mg pen for longer the 6 weeks. Is the medication still effective or it doesn’t work anymore? It is cheaper for me to buy 50 mg pen to use over period of two months.
@saromaz6952 , ensure you have supervision of your endocrinologist to judge your clinical response.
You don't want to be injecting a chemical in your body while not knowing what's it doing, esp if the usage is beyond the recommended box instructions and efficacy of molecule is questionable.
@ninaplei8519 people have used it off licence use, but efficiency can't be guaranteed after 6 weeks. That's why supervision of your endocrinologist is important for your own safety and getting adequate clinical response.
I’ve used mine for longer and it definitely still worked. In U.K. they’re now coming with an added sheet of paper to say they’ve got a longer shelf life. Also look on the side of the pen and it will say the expiry date (my one I’ve just finished Aug 24 says expiry date Jan 25. I don’t know about Mounjaro, but the wegovy instructions say you shouldn’t use if the liquid is cloudy.
@annoyme2697 thank you for sharing experience... yes, never inject the drug if fluid cloudy
Sorry but you are wrong. Every pen has 4 doses with 15 mg in every dose, so 60 mg in every pen IN TOTAL. With 60 clicks per pen IN TOTAL that's 1 mg per click. So a 2.5 mg dose will be 2.5 clicks. If you are counting 10 clicks you are taking a 10 mg dose, not 2.5 mg. Again, EVERY PEN HAS 4 DOSES SO THAT'S 60 MG PER PEN. IF EVERY PEN HAS 60 CLICKS THEN 1 CLICK IS 1 MG.
Of course maybe there is a misunderstanding in your video, maybe what you really want to say BUT YOU DID NOT SAY is that EVERY DOSE has 60 clicks, so then we will have 240 clicks PER PEN. Is that the problem?
The very first thing you have to explain is HOW MANY CLICKS EACH PEN HAS. And then we could do all the calculations from there.
@Taxidermista_de_Phobos thank you for doing the hard work but please ensure you have you have supervision of your endocrinologist as you are not understanding what I have shown the video. Health and safety comes first. With due respect, You have done the wrong completely interpretation ... please watch the video again carefully and also go to your endocrinologist to ensure you are doing it right. One full dial is 60 clicks not what you understood. Please remember its a drug being injected so don't ignore supervision of your endocrinologist
injecting less liquid means that medication do not work as intended because you have less medication in your dermal layer and it absorb differently so this is stupid idea
No it doesn’t
Such a stupid comment. But 15mg dose pen, use 1/3 dose to get 5mg, it's not rocket science