if cs2 just added a rank system similar to val and you don't have to resort to third parties like faceit it would be so much better for new players, honestly.
If, only if the server not 64tick, if valve really confident with their "subtick" they should forced pro match to be played in their official server rather than just use 3rd party 128tick server, if the pro only want to play on ACTUAL 128tick why should we deserve their official server(subtick)? We should demand the best server/similar server to pro match.
@@theroaringgun9679 how do you know? mr.maxim upload video couple weeks before said its 64tick, and all the pros that already try cs2 saying the movement is definitely 64tick
Fr lmao, imagine being able to spend 600$ on an amazing inventory where I have premium skins to almost every weapon a few knives and vandal/phantom skins meanwhile in csgo I'd get only a mid at best knife for that money☠️
@@hiimcihy shame on you, i cant even open cases in my country aka netherlands :-) currently my inv is worth 5k tho which is going up everyday. only put like 250 in :)
@@martyx_g143 idk what everyone talks about edaters, I played both have thousands and if your in high ranks like imortal there is no edaters to be seen, get gud
@@koro6072 get gud... Wow like why Is everyone telling me to get good like Its not my fault that i was in plat And i met E-daters like 3 games in a row.
Ohne saying it's worse while admitting he never played it, I was like ight imma head out of this vid there will only be bad takes. Also he's not even that good in CS
@@Sharkcomet Isnt CS more about skins nowdays instead of the actual gameplay ? It got quite ridiculous. I play both and others similar. I play mostly Rainbow Six Siege and people will hate on that game too just because they can. Siege has the problem that the game is strictly team based and you can do only so much by yourself. Learning the maps. The abilities everything. As was said in that video. CS is pretty easy to pick up because it is much simpler than Valorant or R6.
@@Sharkcomet I said the same thing before I played Val. Played a ton by now and the game is still dog shit. ADHD zoomer CS clone with an ankle high skill ceiling. It doesn't compete.
as someone who started playing CS back in CS 1.3 around 1999-2000 if i recall correctly, i gave Valorant a shot 2 weeks ago and actually...its not too bad, the game has its perks and is genuinely fun. I am not fan of the childish cartoony artstyle and cheesy cringe lines of the agents and the skins, but the gunplay is very interesting and every round can be played in so many ways due to the abilities. Also i am surprised that its way less toxic than CS, in 10 games i had around 1 toxic match, whereas in CS I have around 2-3 chill games and 7 toxic, always the russians ruining the game. That being said, i enjoy playing both games currently on a casual level and enjoy both. Another thing is that i havent seen a cheater in Valorant yet, despite the controversial Vanguard software, which is a pleasant surprise after CS.
as a 1.6 boomer myself i really appreciate how many wallbangs valorant has and the QOL improvements for it (i.e. you can tell if a bullet pens because it will leave a hole instead of a crater)
I think valorant is definitely better when it comes to cheaters but I had to put valorant down after a while because I had a week where I got only obnoxious 16 year olds making porn noises and pretending to be women having orgasms and shit. It's degenerate as fuck. I don't like any of my teammates in that game. In csgo the annoyance comes from attitudes, not straight up braindead mic spam. Both are equally bad, but I can only handle so many petulant children. I'm sure it's better in higher ranks but I'm already in higher ranks in csgo so it just isn't worth it for me personally but valorant is a great game.
@@hobosnake1 i can totally believe and understand that, in my short valorant time i did see more friendly players than in CSGO but at the same time the infant immature shit is there in many forms, whining, moaning and noises but also begging for skins and stupid comments that i no longer find funny in any way as a 34yr old man. The community in Valo seems to be much younger, at least its my assumption.
@@BeowulfGaming definitely is. I just don't have time to take shit from little kids who talk about jerking off all day. I wondered at the end of that week how any adult male could get away with playing that game and not feel like a fucking pedophile. Sorry not trying to hate the game. It's the opposite. I'm pissed that the game was actually really solid itself and I don't want to discourage others from trying it.
Well it's goes for the preference that what game you like. You can hate a game there's no problem in that but don't think that everyone has the same taste as you. I played CS for years since 1.6 to CSGO and I now also play valorant. I like them both equally but there are people who will be like me and some don't. And if you're bored of CSGO and wanna try similar game so I would say try valorant you might like.
Valorant is like the only alternative. I guess rainbow six siege but that's quite a bit different to valorant and cs, although it scratches many of the same itches.
I played Cs since Beta, every iteration of it. iam 36 now and gave Valorant a shot in a phase where i just didnt had fun playing csgo anymore. So I played valorant also since beta and atm iam back to playing more csgo again. Valorant is a fun game. It has more creative ways due to abilities and minor tweaks like he half mark of defusing a bomb, alone that offers so much mindgames with the enemy. It was a breath of fresh air after decades of doing the same thing over and over again. Riot games is pushing the esports aspect of it every year more and more, with their experience with league behind it. In conclusion i like both games equaly now, only depends on who is online in my friendslist what game iam about to play that day. Haters will always be there, but competition was always good for the greater good. Competition means both games will push to be better instead of milking the cash cow doing only the lowest effort to earn money. And it expands playerbases and esport scene in general wich is a great thing
@@NOU-iw3gb how can you say overwatch is better than cod for example. They are vastly different games just like cs and valorant. Man people give weebs shit for this whole cringe “my waifu is better” stuff but you all are acting just as cringe with games. Get a grip on life man. Play what you want
@@kaboomerty1638 val players are genuinlely better people on average. cs players are much more toxic and less capable of understanding the fact that both games are good. atleast those who have never played valorant. all the ones who have tried it would agree most cs players needlesly hate and val players don't care because they all played cs:go and realized it wasn't their preferred game
@@colinmanley7349 Of course they are. The game is actually moderate. The toxicity in CS is like a no mans land. Be racist, misogynistic, toxic, you name it and the game let's you.
Would you believe that what he does with skins is more productive than playing uwu game ? Edit : I meant that OhnePixel gets money from this. OhnePixel, not gamblers. People who replied to me with this argument need to read correctly.
Ohne is dogshit at both games his opinions are trash on everything but skins lol, cs>val but he’s acting like valorsnt is some dogshit trash, it’s still a good and very playable game but when you compare it to the best fps of all time, yeah it’s gonna fall flat like wtf
It's pretty ironic considering Valorant was built to mimic CS 1.6's core shooting and movement mechanics while CSGO was built around Source, so Val plays like 1.6 more than CSGO does. I've been a CS guy since 2004 and played a bunch of Valorant when it came out but it just made me want to play CS instead, and in a way that's why CS isn't going anywhere, but a community projecting their insecurities because another game has better mass appeal is a tale as old as esports.
@@noz_fx 1.6 shooting is bad man, I mean random recoil??? Really? That's uncompetitive. CSGO has variance which is bad, but at least it still follows the recoil pattern.
this is what I don't understand with cs fans, when valorant copies something from cs, they get mad, but when valorant does something very different from cs, they also get mad. like... pick a struggle
I'm amazed how valorant lives rent free in the minds of so many cs fans, and how just the mention of the game sparks an almost visceral reaction from them. Its just a game, it's not that deep
@@kejarebias a cs primary player ohnepixel did say he felt sick about hearing about val and literally has never even played the game. that is a over reaction on the part of a cs player who has never and like he literally said has never played the game. this dude is right no hate
@@Comrade_Nikoreal there is no bias correct, the only correct opinion is unbias, look at ur csgo, DEAD. look at ur csgo player active, fallin down year by year . while valorant player goes higher and higher since it released
@@valentinoangga6158 everything you said is wrong. Csgo has never been dead and the player count was never falling while valorant is still a shit game that doesnt get new people at all
@@Comrade_Nikoreal prove it with data u dumbass, look at steam player actives, and check csgo active player it shows it falls down since 2018 lmao, look at valorant trends and see that💀
Ive been playing csgo for around 10 years and I picked up valorant during the beta and played consistently until skye came out. I think valorant does a lot of stuff different to CS, not necessarily bad but just different. I personally am not a fan of ability like games where different agents have different types of roles. I like that csgo is an even playing field for everyone, everyone has the same buy menus per teams and skill is everything. The thing about csgo that was hard to wrap my head around sometimes is the fact that to go pro or even just be in the top tier of players you need smoke lineups etc and the fact that simple things like the tick system always tended to cause issues. I’m excited to see what cs2 does differently to make the game more accessible to newer players with the new smoke systems, recoil/spray control follow recoil option, as well stuff like the sound ring on the minimap. I like the what you see is what you get design choices a lot.
I have played so much cs but switched to valorant to try it out. In the beginning it was a little frustrating, but after playing some time, I actually gotta admit that it’s so fun. Besides the gun game it’s a completely different game, so the comparison kinda lacks. I don’t like the passive aggressive cs mindset to just dislike Valorant without even trying it. Surely it’s not as hardcorish as cs might be, but does it make the game bad?
@@phr3ui559 I mean, its just different, its not inherently bad. He doesnt have to constantly shit on the game, a game which a lot of people love to play
@@jojoman4223 bro personally i think u cant compare those 2 games is like comparing overwatch with cod they are very differnt even tho yes 5v5 and bomb bases teams etc the amount of shit that val has can never come close to csgo but the simplicity of csgo can really show who is the better player. personally i hate val (ik all the teens my age love the colours and anime type characters) i love csgo and i dont think i will ever play val
@@xel... you should definately give it a try, coming from a cs:go player because you lack perspective on the subject and like you said its two entirely different games. You might enjoy it more than you think
CS2 needs to have a ranking system, Letting you know what placement you are in your region and when are you going to rank up will make it a better game overall for casuals and competitive players.
I understand CS people don't like Valorant because it's different and a competitor of CS. But I genuinely think the idea of hating something you never try is so dumb. How can you hate something you never even play? I put CS above Valorant but for me Valorant is cool too.
I hate Valorant without playing because literally everything I see of it I dislike. I don't need to eat shit to be disgusted by just the concept alone.
One of Ohne's worst takes is his opinion on valorant when he has no idea about it. As someone who plays both and enjoys different things about each, I don't think you have to choose one or the other.
i think valorant is artistically great for attracting women to the game and the fact that they managed to pull such a large female userbase into it is probably one of the biggest feats in fps gaming
As a player of both games, this video is so accurate, both of them have their strengths and flaws, but mainly both games are ass lol but we still love it
I enjoy both games, got really into Valorant for like a year and was first game I went competitive on, but stopped playing a few months ago due to work getting busy. Now I play CSGO and love that most of what made me decent at val transferred over(my aim, lol).
I play Val cause having to deal with lineups is just inherently unfun to me and I know that it will be a bigger and bigger part of the game the better you get. (There are some agents in val that don't need lineups where I know this won't be a bottleneck)
@@knotrobin2898 I play both games and while yes I do prefer Valorant I can still say that he is being immature about valorant. Clearly valorant is successful and just because he doesn't see the stuff in valorant as good without trying it doesnt mean its automatically a terrible game
I mean you can have a opinion of the game ofcourse, but ohne is hating on things he sees for one second and doesnt even know at all. Valorant is objectivily just a diffrent experience, i play both because the basics are the same the mechanics stay but its just a whole diffrent feeling from each another no need to hate one of them without ever trying
@@102ndsmirnov7 if you have a problem with that then don't play it but for 22 million that isn't a problem, maybe if you get the child porn off your computer you wouldn't be so worried about downloading deep anti cheat and the results of that anti cheat are undeniable, i have only played cs for the last few months and have encountered more cheaters in 3 months than in 2 years of valorant. will it make me stop playing cs:go? absolutely not but I do wish they had valorant anti cheat when I end up facing a cheater
the 1 ways in csgo make it cancerous to play valorant is more simplified so you can just focus on shooting enemies instead of worrying about learning lineups on youtube
I respect Valorant as a CS player, i don't get why valorant haters complain about the game being a copy of csgo, but the moment they see something that's different in Valorant, they make a disgusted face, like they expect the game to follow every rule of cs, even thought it's a stand alone game, and it has is own rules and gameplay
the game is hated for being mixed with: csgo, overwatch, fortnite, leage of legends and a sprinkle of tf2, and overrall it still has a cringe comunnity like theyre not thankfull for the game theyre playing, cringe is same like toxic: it makess people wanna leave the game
I use my faceit ranking to determine how good I am as a player, got to top 1K in the UK and at that point I determined I'm at least above average but it's a good way to distinguish your ability
So I built my first PC in 2020. Got into val, and I just started playing CSGO a few weeks ago. There's some things I like about val more and some things I like about CS more. It's not cut and dry "x is better than Y"
@@nutskok5394 nah the separation is preferred, you can't combine them and make a better game but the ability to chose will allow everyone to pick whats best for them.
As a Csgo player you can get to upper ranks in valorant just off of game sense and team play. If one of your abilities is a flash. Flash out your tm8, etc, etc, etc. it’s very easy to transition. Gun play is a little different and movement is very different. Imo but I think it plays mostly the same. In valorant most people just run and gun tho now so I’ve recently stopped playing until they fix it
Classic cs players malding over valorant for no reason. Imagine going all your way to watch val related content with the sole purpose of hating on it. Cs players probably have one of the most narrow-minded community there is. Do these people not cringe over themselves acting like a kid tryna tell everyone their game is the best every chances they get?
What are you saying? He's a CS player watching a CS/Valorant comparison and he's... comparing them? Are you just frustrated that his opinion is unfavourable to Valorant?
@@kejarebi he's not doing a comparison, he's just blindly hating on the other game. Like how can you even say something is bad when you haven't even tried it yet, that's just being narrow-minded. The dude needs to get off his chair and do something else, he literally sucking on valves balls.
valorant's queuing system is not completely random! in each act (or episode i can't remember), there is a pool of 7 playable maps that rotate, so you only have to play 7 maps at a certain time (this applies to unrated games, ranked games but also to pro tournaments)
@@davidmontgomery1442 not for pro play and premier (the in-game tournament system) though where there are still picks and bans but for casual and ranked yes it's random (in the limits of these seven maps)
im a new cs player from valorant and i placed mg1. ive been enjoying csgo and plan on continue to play both but ive barel touched val in the last month, csgo has felt really fresh tho
i can say its a good idea with "skills with gun" but the most annoying part is that if i choose non flash or non smoke... then i cant use flash or smoke forever .
@@likeaboss436 competition? Csgo has the most die hard fan base and an actually good competitive scene that is only growing. Valorant was the it game for a couple years but it’s slowly dying out (the pro scene I mean)
@@B00nater imagine saying Valo pro scene is dying when literal CSGO teams were mad about having not enough local competitions, thus making them fly their players for 100 hrs in the first 3 months of the year alone. I play both, and yes i like CS more, but Valo is also cool. STFU and backup your statements with facts.
Valorant is literally cs 1.6 with abilities and that's why i like it more than csgo. Also while i played csgo, even in high elo most of my teammates didn't even know one smoke.
Well I guess valorant is good for you then because your teammates don't need to know smokes. They just open their smoke map and click the part of the map that they want the smoke on. It's an upside and a downside of valorant.
@@Emerald_Forge did you even read my message? I said it's cool knowledge. Doesn't change the fact that it's bad for accessibility and it isn't particularly fun to play against anyways.
Ye true when the maps are good thats fine but putting a map like Fracture where defender spawn in DEAD CENTER of the map giving them fuck ton of advantage to rotate... In most games mid control is a win condition Well FUCK YOU NO MID TO CONTROL FOR ATTACKERS WE PUT FUCKING SPAWN THERE!
Valorant was my first ever game on mouse and keyboard, so I dont have a cs background. I love the game and I hate it when people from cs clown about it because its so similar but stylized and more beginner friendly. I like playing cs too but one thing that pisses me off sometimes is that some shots on their head just miss or dont register eventhough I would hit the shot in val.
love ohnepixel, love cs, love valorant, neither is harder than the other (its impossible for games to be harder than any other games, discussion for another day or ask if you're curious what I mean) but they are wildly different and both exceptionally fun. I believe it really comes down to do you prefer abilities or do you prefer grenades. also ohnepixel and other cs players often trash on val because they haven't played it and val players don't really ever have to trash on cs:go because they all played cs:go and realized they prefer valorant more.
How is it impossible for games to be harder than others? Objectively, starcraft is probably the hardest game ever made and fps games dont even compare. If you put in 5k hours in valorant or cs while focusing on improvement, youre guarranteed to become good. However there are people who have literally 20k hours in starcraft (there are only 11k hours inba year for reference) and are still considered c-tier scrubs.
@@mangarealm242 brodie, who on this earth said starcraft is a shooter?? The commenter saud "its impossible for games to be harder than other games", starcraft is a game, csgo and valorant are games. Therefore saying that starcraft is a game, and showing how itbis objectively harder than csgo and valorant disproves the statement "its impossible for games to be harder than any other games" notice tge words "any other games". Does that make it clearer lil bro?
that rocket as actually very fucking glitchy and most of the time it only gets 1-2 kills with maybe some follow up casue the ass radius and the enemys ability to simply walk back most the 5k raze ults are at the very start of the fouind where u dont even know there at your site untill the satcheling
As someone who has been in love with CS for nearly 2 decades I will have to say that valorant is actually quite a fun game when playing with friends. Just don’t go into thinking it’s another fps like CS… I hated games like overwatch and destiny because of all the over the top ability’s but valorant just has a very nice feel too it compared to those games
I agree it's better than overwatch, but to me the ultimates and utility in valorant are actually quite over the top. Nothing like getting molotov'd remotely. Or turning a corner into a turret. Ot shooting a guy and one tapping him with the vandal and then actually oh its a fake guy and you're flashed 🤦♂️. Don't get me started on the guy who can stealth up behind you invisible like a world of warcraft rogue. It's just over the top for my tastes. I liked valorant in the beta when it was more like CS and less like overwatch. Now it's approaching more of the overwatch/moba ability usage games. Csgo is mostly mechanical skill. Valorant is a little more ability based and strategic. Not saying one is better than the other, but csgo doesn't annoy me and valorant does. I've at least a thousand hours in both. So there's my two cents.
@@hobosnake1 you have plenty of time to dodge the flash of the clone and the invis is hella loud, all things can be counteracted if you know what you are doing
@@specificocean4176 oh I'm aware. I watch pro play. I see the counterplay that happens and respect people who can do it. I require the learning progress to be fun though, and for me it's not fun playing against most of that stuff. Raze rocket is a great example. You can easily run away and not get hit, but is that fun? I don't personally think it's very fun. Same goes with most ults and stuff. Just not a fan. That's OK though. I'm glad valo exists for people who like it.
I agree that it's fun with friends but I find Overwatch and CS way more enjoyable because I find the movement way smoother, also I cba to learn what every ability does and I find map design and aesthetic way too simple
It's ratio Ig. Yeah its normally ok to hate a copied game. But Valorant is not only inspired by the csgo mechanics. That's why they are very different starting with the role distribution on rank games.
The only thing that’s good about Val skin system is that it’s affordable a Cs veteran with 10k hours is proly not going to get his fav knife ever, but in val if its in ur shop it’s pretty much yours. Also the Radinite systems is fucked, it should be that u get the full skin upgraded and u can pay for the extra variants that’s fine, and they should def introduce some trading system at least once per skin.
And valo is for 14 year old fucktards who would die of boredom if it wasnt for the eyecancer dogshit abilites this game shoves in your face every 0.2 seconds
@@sqpreme4740 so true with the eye cancer, like youve seen the game play? my eye veins could never in a dark room, it would just damage me when playing and i know it when its hard to watch for me lol
As someone who has a shit ton hours on Valo and 6k+hours on cs, I would like to say its 60/40 cs/valo. The only reason csgo is over is just because of nostalgic reasons and the love I have for it. Valo pro scene>cs pro scene atm (for watching)
Ehhh, not really, in cs its just way easier to follow and generally has more hype (could be due to nostalgia as you said), but for me the casting talent just sucks compared to CS.
@@L0ngF0rm casting, yes. playstyle, no. The difference is I can call out what is going to happen in a round just by watching where people are going. What type of executes and strats. Not saying csgo is bad to watch either, I do love that but its all the same. ATM people still find new things and strats on valorant. Hopefully CS2 will change my mind even more with big changes in maps.
This video was like tell me you're hardstuck silver without telling me you're hardstuck silver. 90% of this video, the original video i mean, isn't like totally accurate. The fact you cannot pick maps is actually good, because it means you HAVE to learn them all, although there's only 7. Which is kinda like the active map pool in CSGO. There is LOTS of utility in valorant but honestly most people don't use it properly. Instead of there being a few types of utility to not use properly, each agent has at least 2 unique bits of utility that low ranked idiots don't understand. It feels like Valorant is more of an aim game at low ranks, and you honestly don't come across people working as a team until Diamond ish. I went out of my way to throw consistent util every round in CSGO, and got to DMG. I'm currently diamond in Valorant, which means that basically i should have teammates that understand the fundamentals, but they just don't. I tend to just play Mirage and Cache in CS, but i think if i was forced to play 5 other maps too, including new ones like anubis and ancient, I'd be a much lower rank, similar to where i sit in valorant, but at least NOBODY knows the news maps in Val when they drop, so everyone is just as bad map knowedge wise, and that's where raw skill comes in. Overall, i think Val is harder because there are SO many raw aimers, but it's also easier than CS because you can rely on your characters abilities to carry you through gunfights. I love both games, but valorant deffo has a charm that CS doesn't have - until CS2? Plus, you can't tell me that the reason CS2 is even a thing is because Valve needs to clean the game up for sponsors/to compete with valorant and bring those pros back to the game - and also sell more skins lol.
People who said that you cant pick map is GOOD is dumb. We dont have all the time in the world learning all the map and line up. And your whole argument is that "no its not op because most of the people cant use it well" wtf lmao the problem is that there just too many util and it will became cluttered the more character introduced. Both amazing game but cmon valorant gunplay is way wordt and movement is so bad in valorant. And go try carry alone in valorant when your utility is locked as a certain role. Oh and the crappy map design that val have. Im plat in val and i can say that val is going to be shitier if they didnt slow down agent release and just freaking make replay mode that they promised 2 years ago
Compete with valorant in what? xD csgo has better esports with more viewers, it makes more money through case unboxings and its rich market, and it has a very high player base. The pros that left aren't even top 20 in csgo even in their peaks (kinda makes you wonder why they left in the first place) and they are mostly NA which doesn't impact much in CSGO as it's a heavily EU game. I'm not trying to shit on valo, but this is just facts. The only thing that valorant has that csgo doesn't are 128 tick servers and a better MM system (probably anti-cheat as well, but I haven't really looked into it). Sponsors are great and all, but I don't believe valve is willing to sacrifice a portion of their player base just to change "terrorists" to "attackers", because believe it or not, that would make a huge difference to a lot of people. CS2 has been in development before valorant came out, it's definitely not a move to "compete" with valorant, it is happening because they want to port their most popular game to the source 2 engine so we can have better and faster updates. Although I would lie if I were to say I wouldn't want more people into csgo, I'm fine with it as it is right now, If valve truly went all out to pander to a new audience, the old audience would all have left by then. For the gameplay portion, I won't speak of it, it comes down to preference in the end, although I don't agree one is harder over the other. I agree valorant is more appealing to the younger generation and females with it's flashiness, csgo is for the diehard fans most of which have been playing for a long time and that makes it a bit hard to get into it in the first place.
@@TheLazar876 a lot of the things you said either are not relevant or just wrong, so either you’re ignorant or you’re believing an idea so much that you’ve trained your mind to think it’s facts.
@@oranzbowl you literally dismissed his whole statement with zero argument behind your comment, its as if your comment has no reason to exist, you didn't even opine on anything aside from making a claim you can't back up
Having played cs for almost a decade while mainly playing valorant since it came out I think we can at the very least appreciate the competition between the two games that makes both push themselves forward. Also valorant is mid outside of a team environment, ranked players are some other breed.
I do not understand how someone can hate a game without ever playing it, not even once. Its crazy honestly. And even if csgo players tried val they would still hate it Because the game is too complex to understand and master at first glance since it has changed quite a lot since the beta (and not to mention all the smurfs in the game would make it harder for them to play)
I play both games and I can say that however it depends from person to person. I honestly prefer valorant because I find it more strategic, dynamic and fast. Strategic because, having the possibility to create different comps for each map, it makes the game always different and with new strategies to use or learn. The thing I hate most about cs go is the ranked system and the draw. imagine coming to a 15-15 match, why would I want to settle for a draw when I spent 1 hour or more on that match? at least valorant gives you the possibility to choose (now you will tell me that it's different on faceit, I know it's different, but here I'm talking about ranked systems, not third-party software)
@@rikitikitoki you didn't get my point. If I play ranked I want to win, not draw. I'm not talking about elo. If in valorant someone clicks draw after we've played 15 rounds I really go crazy. I'd rather lose than draw, if I spend 1 hour on a game I want to end it by winning or losing.
I think the worst part about Valorant is simply the Map design. CSGO is simple, but it's sight lines are abundant, even on their worst maps Valorant is very simple and, while it makes a non-fps player get pretty good at the gunplay (I know of some female players that have literally only played casual minecraft, and they're like Immortal 3 rn), it certainly makes it a lot harder to add variety to defense But Valorant's skins are so much cooler and I'll stand by that
You know ohne is either pissed or confused when he drops in a few random "WAS?!" and "Oh nein! Nein!" combos. FPS? Leave it to Valve. Because CS is just THE competitive shooter. MOBA? Leave it to Riot. Because it's so much fucking better than Dota. MMO? Leave it to Blizzard. Or Riot. We'll see. Because WoW is/was great, but Riot's MMO is coming, and there's this one thing about League of Legends that I say every single day. Everything about League of Legends is perfection, like lore, designs, music, characters, the world of Runeterra, except the game itself is shit but addictive, especially the pro scene if you know what you're watching. Now take everything from League, except for the game, and make an MMO out of it. That's a pretty kick-ass idea, and Riot are already working on it.
so, league is better because everything, except the gameplay, which is the most valuable criteria, is better? dota has some cool lore too, but it isn't available on your fingertips, you have to look for it and join it piece by piece. gameplay comes first, then all the skins, lore and anything else. if we took league lore and dota gameplay, we could make the ultimate action rts, though sadly it isn't going to be real anytime soon.
@@An0m3L1 dota lore just meh compared to league. But yes their gameplay is better because all of the heroes were made up with gameplay first then lore. Just take a look at their Netflix show. Arcane just better in everything. Riot really having an easy time grabbing their new audience with less complicated things. You know LoL, and Valorant is also easier than DotA and CS
@@An0m3L1I play mostly league and love its pro scene but i tried dota for a week and watched some pro matches from youtube. I can say without a doubt dota's gameplay can only be liked by small group of people who like to have their flash range and teamfights be done in just a second like a time bomb. the team fights in dota is sooo soooooo boring comapred to the hype that league of legends have.
if cs2 just added a rank system similar to val and you don't have to resort to third parties like faceit it would be so much better for new players, honestly.
If, only if the server not 64tick, if valve really confident with their "subtick" they should forced pro match to be played in their official server rather than just use 3rd party 128tick server, if the pro only want to play on ACTUAL 128tick why should we deserve their official server(subtick)? We should demand the best server/similar server to pro match.
@@thomasshelby5454 bro CS2 eSports will probably also work with subtick...
@@M1GLER yeah i know but will they actually played it on subtick tho? Or they just gonna use 3rd party 128tick server?
@@thomasshelby5454 well that doesn’t matter anymore has cs2 will become 128 tick
@@theroaringgun9679 how do you know? mr.maxim upload video couple weeks before said its 64tick, and all the pros that already try cs2 saying the movement is definitely 64tick
“They don’t have gambling?! You get the skins u pay for? Nope don’t want it” 😂 bro is just addicted to cases.
Fr lmao, imagine being able to spend 600$ on an amazing inventory where I have premium skins to almost every weapon a few knives and vandal/phantom skins meanwhile in csgo I'd get only a mid at best knife for that money☠️
@@jmiod2819atleast you can sell your skins for real money in cs, your money is forever gone😅😂
@@twinnie5393 my money isn't gone, i still have the skins i bought. you on the other hand lost thousands of dollars on your cases
@@hiimcihy shame on you, i cant even open cases in my country aka netherlands :-) currently my inv is worth 5k tho which is going up everyday. only put like 250 in :)
@@twinnie5393 Just do stockses instead, if you like gambling?
Nah they really did make it weirder. The valorant community is actually so weird
So true actualy tho... Like i played Valorant (still regret it) And there Are so many E-daters that it made me sick
@@martyx_g143 idk what everyone talks about edaters, I played both have thousands and if your in high ranks like imortal there is no edaters to be seen, get gud
@@koro6072 get gud... Wow like why Is everyone telling me to get good like Its not my fault that i was in plat And i met E-daters like 3 games in a row.
@@martyx_g143 bro unironically said “get gud” like we also have a life outside of video games.
@@martyx_g143 there is always a mute button :D
Im definitely into cs more than valorant but this type of discussion is lame af.
Ohne saying it's worse while admitting he never played it, I was like ight imma head out of this vid there will only be bad takes. Also he's not even that good in CS
@@Sharkcomet Isnt CS more about skins nowdays instead of the actual gameplay ? It got quite ridiculous. I play both and others similar. I play mostly Rainbow Six Siege and people will hate on that game too just because they can. Siege has the problem that the game is strictly team based and you can do only so much by yourself. Learning the maps. The abilities everything. As was said in that video. CS is pretty easy to pick up because it is much simpler than Valorant or R6.
@@Sharkcomet I said the same thing before I played Val. Played a ton by now and the game is still dog shit. ADHD zoomer CS clone with an ankle high skill ceiling. It doesn't compete.
@@SnuffySpaghetti feeling some diamond energy coming from u
@@SnuffySpaghetti I mean fair you get to have an opinion because you actually play, ohne didn't even install the game and already criticized it lmao.
as someone who started playing CS back in CS 1.3 around 1999-2000 if i recall correctly, i gave Valorant a shot 2 weeks ago and actually...its not too bad, the game has its perks and is genuinely fun. I am not fan of the childish cartoony artstyle and cheesy cringe lines of the agents and the skins, but the gunplay is very interesting and every round can be played in so many ways due to the abilities. Also i am surprised that its way less toxic than CS, in 10 games i had around 1 toxic match, whereas in CS I have around 2-3 chill games and 7 toxic, always the russians ruining the game. That being said, i enjoy playing both games currently on a casual level and enjoy both. Another thing is that i havent seen a cheater in Valorant yet, despite the controversial Vanguard software, which is a pleasant surprise after CS.
TBf I haven’t gotten a CSGO cheater in probably 6 months now lmao
as a 1.6 boomer myself i really appreciate how many wallbangs valorant has and the QOL improvements for it (i.e. you can tell if a bullet pens because it will leave a hole instead of a crater)
I think valorant is definitely better when it comes to cheaters but I had to put valorant down after a while because I had a week where I got only obnoxious 16 year olds making porn noises and pretending to be women having orgasms and shit. It's degenerate as fuck. I don't like any of my teammates in that game. In csgo the annoyance comes from attitudes, not straight up braindead mic spam. Both are equally bad, but I can only handle so many petulant children. I'm sure it's better in higher ranks but I'm already in higher ranks in csgo so it just isn't worth it for me personally but valorant is a great game.
@@hobosnake1 i can totally believe and understand that, in my short valorant time i did see more friendly players than in CSGO but at the same time the infant immature shit is there in many forms, whining, moaning and noises but also begging for skins and stupid comments that i no longer find funny in any way as a 34yr old man. The community in Valo seems to be much younger, at least its my assumption.
@@BeowulfGaming definitely is. I just don't have time to take shit from little kids who talk about jerking off all day. I wondered at the end of that week how any adult male could get away with playing that game and not feel like a fucking pedophile. Sorry not trying to hate the game. It's the opposite. I'm pissed that the game was actually really solid itself and I don't want to discourage others from trying it.
they called it the spike because in the lore it isn't meant to be for blowing things up, it's meant to steal this fictional material to the attackers
Ohne would still calk it goofy an unrealistic when there's been more wars over energy sources than terrorist attacks.
@@Emerald_Forge i forgot the csgo lore lol its like 2 factions just hate each other
the what now?
@@Emerald_Forge WOW ENERGY WARS ?1 SO COOL I FEEL LIKE I'M BOUT TO BUST
@@sk-xg7re the middle east?
This is what happens if you're a super fanatic, you become narrow-minded.
@@murphplaya You are just in an echo chamber of Valorant haters and think that everyone shares the same opinion as you
@@murphplaya What do you hate about the game
@@murphplaya You're just talking shit out of your ass.
@@jojoman4223 it’s too cartoony
@@phr3ui559 Grow up
"I hope they trash talk it"
Bro is done with that game at this point 💀
He's also admitted to never playing it
@@iXSIKOBOIXi good
@@abe-kun you kinda have to play something before you judge it
@@Heirloop I was joking but yeah, bias towards and against a particular game is definitely not good
"wtf is that a furry flashbang" 💀💀💀💀
Well it's goes for the preference that what game you like. You can hate a game there's no problem in that but don't think that everyone has the same taste as you. I played CS for years since 1.6 to CSGO and I now also play valorant. I like them both equally but there are people who will be like me and some don't. And if you're bored of CSGO and wanna try similar game so I would say try valorant you might like.
Valorant is like the only alternative. I guess rainbow six siege but that's quite a bit different to valorant and cs, although it scratches many of the same itches.
i play valorant and i tried cs, really loved it. its hard to play 2 games cos it fucks up my muscle memory but its kinda refreshing
I played Cs since Beta, every iteration of it. iam 36 now and gave Valorant a shot in a phase where i just didnt had fun playing csgo anymore.
So I played valorant also since beta and atm iam back to playing more csgo again. Valorant is a fun game. It has more creative ways due to abilities and minor tweaks like he half mark of defusing a bomb, alone that offers so much mindgames with the enemy.
It was a breath of fresh air after decades of doing the same thing over and over again.
Riot games is pushing the esports aspect of it every year more and more, with their experience with league behind it.
In conclusion i like both games equaly now, only depends on who is online in my friendslist what game iam about to play that day.
Haters will always be there, but competition was always good for the greater good. Competition means both games will push to be better instead of milking the cash cow doing only the lowest effort to earn money. And it expands playerbases and esport scene in general wich is a great thing
why cant people just appreciate both games man this shit is SO immature
Because one is better than the other. Why should people have to lie?
@@NOU-iw3gb blinded by ignorance, classic
@@NOU-iw3gb Neither one is better than the other overall. Both have It's pros and cons so It's subject to personal preference.
@@NOU-iw3gb I like csgo way more but you can't say one is better than the other, they both have pros and cons in there own way.
@@NOU-iw3gb how can you say overwatch is better than cod for example. They are vastly different games just like cs and valorant. Man people give weebs shit for this whole cringe “my waifu is better” stuff but you all are acting just as cringe with games. Get a grip on life man. Play what you want
CS player tries to be a normal person (impossible)
valorant*^
@@kaboomerty1638 both are incapable of doing it
@@Noriaela so true
@@kaboomerty1638 val players are genuinlely better people on average. cs players are much more toxic and less capable of understanding the fact that both games are good. atleast those who have never played valorant. all the ones who have tried it would agree most cs players needlesly hate and val players don't care because they all played cs:go and realized it wasn't their preferred game
@@colinmanley7349 Of course they are. The game is actually moderate. The toxicity in CS is like a no mans land. Be racist, misogynistic, toxic, you name it and the game let's you.
6:29 only guy who will brag about having bugs in his game
Cant wait for CS2 to kill one ways :)
bro never heard of one ways.
@@Bbr0keN one ways heat death is a blessing
@@justaplayer_8392 one ways are unfair for the enemy team imo. In both games. Glad they getting rid of em in cs2.
dude shitting on valo when he haven't even tried it lmao
he hate it to the core
@@duckblug609 wtf is that
yea cuz it’s shit
@@nutskok5394
I tried it and....🤮🤮🤮
He doesn't like Valorant because it can't feed his gambling addiction 🤣
It can only feed his urge to spend money on worthless skins you can never resell and are locked to your account :)
@@aquss33 Would you believe me if I told you some people play fps games for the fps experience and not for the skin economy? 💀
Would you believe that what he does with skins is more productive than playing uwu game ?
Edit : I meant that OhnePixel gets money from this. OhnePixel, not gamblers. People who replied to me with this argument need to read correctly.
@@imir_ Yeah, because people play games to be productive...
@@imir_ What about that is productive? The skins are just gamble if they go down or up. You could just do stocks instead.
*makes game similar* "THIS IS JUST A COPY REEEE"
*does something different* "THIS IS TOO CARTOONY REEEEE"
Love the elitist mindset from ohne, it honestly adds so much to this very civil, constructive and appealing conversation.
Ohne is dogshit at both games his opinions are trash on everything but skins lol, cs>val but he’s acting like valorsnt is some dogshit trash, it’s still a good and very playable game but when you compare it to the best fps of all time, yeah it’s gonna fall flat like wtf
Cope bc ur bad at shooters zzzz
this is the conversation equivalent of saying "my source is tiktok"
It's pretty ironic considering Valorant was built to mimic CS 1.6's core shooting and movement mechanics while CSGO was built around Source, so Val plays like 1.6 more than CSGO does. I've been a CS guy since 2004 and played a bunch of Valorant when it came out but it just made me want to play CS instead, and in a way that's why CS isn't going anywhere, but a community projecting their insecurities because another game has better mass appeal is a tale as old as esports.
@@noz_fx 1.6 shooting is bad man, I mean random recoil??? Really? That's uncompetitive. CSGO has variance which is bad, but at least it still follows the recoil pattern.
this is what I don't understand with cs fans, when valorant copies something from cs, they get mad, but when valorant does something very different from cs, they also get mad. like... pick a struggle
I'm amazed how valorant lives rent free in the minds of so many cs fans, and how just the mention of the game sparks an almost visceral reaction from them. Its just a game, it's not that deep
He's watching a video about Valorant, not rent free thought? It's not that deep.
@@kejarebias a cs primary player ohnepixel did say he felt sick about hearing about val and literally has never even played the game. that is a over reaction on the part of a cs player who has never and like he literally said has never played the game. this dude is right no hate
because you think a game is shit does not mean it lives rent free in your head xd
@@MalBoYover most cs kids think val is shit without having played val
and they cant think that when they see a fucking cyber dog running around the corner xD? thats just wired for some people
The unbelievable bias ohnepixel has makes me laugh out loud
his bias is correct
@@Comrade_Nikoreal there is no bias correct, the only correct opinion is unbias, look at ur csgo, DEAD. look at ur csgo player active, fallin down year by year . while valorant player goes higher and higher since it released
@@valentinoangga6158 everything you said is wrong. Csgo has never been dead and the player count was never falling while valorant is still a shit game that doesnt get new people at all
@@Comrade_Nikoreal prove it with data u dumbass, look at steam player actives, and check csgo active player it shows it falls down since 2018 lmao, look at valorant trends and see that💀
@@Comrade_Nikoreal if csgo so good then where's ur content creator? 💀 even shroud plays val💀
Ive been playing csgo for around 10 years and I picked up valorant during the beta and played consistently until skye came out. I think valorant does a lot of stuff different to CS, not necessarily bad but just different. I personally am not a fan of ability like games where different agents have different types of roles. I like that csgo is an even playing field for everyone, everyone has the same buy menus per teams and skill is everything. The thing about csgo that was hard to wrap my head around sometimes is the fact that to go pro or even just be in the top tier of players you need smoke lineups etc and the fact that simple things like the tick system always tended to cause issues. I’m excited to see what cs2 does differently to make the game more accessible to newer players with the new smoke systems, recoil/spray control follow recoil option, as well stuff like the sound ring on the minimap. I like the what you see is what you get design choices a lot.
I have played so much cs but switched to valorant to try it out. In the beginning it was a little frustrating, but after playing some time, I actually gotta admit that it’s so fun. Besides the gun game it’s a completely different game, so the comparison kinda lacks. I don’t like the passive aggressive cs mindset to just dislike Valorant without even trying it. Surely it’s not as hardcorish as cs might be, but does it make the game bad?
"THERE IS ZIPLINES?" bruh its a different game.
Complains because its different but Im sure he would also complain if its too similar because then it would be a "cheap copy"
@@jojoman4223 it’s different in a bad way, is probably what he’s trying to say
@@phr3ui559 I mean, its just different, its not inherently bad. He doesnt have to constantly shit on the game, a game which a lot of people love to play
@@jojoman4223 bro personally i think u cant compare those 2 games is like comparing overwatch with cod they are very differnt even tho yes 5v5 and bomb bases teams etc the amount of shit that val has can never come close to csgo but the simplicity of csgo can really show who is the better player. personally i hate val (ik all the teens my age love the colours and anime type characters) i love csgo and i dont think i will ever play val
@@xel... you should definately give it a try, coming from a cs:go player because you lack perspective on the subject and like you said its two entirely different games. You might enjoy it more than you think
CS2 needs to have a ranking system, Letting you know what placement you are in your region and when are you going to rank up will make it a better game overall for casuals and competitive players.
I understand CS people don't like Valorant because it's different and a competitor of CS. But I genuinely think the idea of hating something you never try is so dumb. How can you hate something you never even play? I put CS above Valorant but for me Valorant is cool too.
And btw Office is a great map. I have the most fun playing Office in CS than any other maps. Sure it's not competitive but it doesn't need to be.
I hate Valorant without playing because literally everything I see of it I dislike. I don't need to eat shit to be disgusted by just the concept alone.
i tried it and i hate it.
i tried it and it sucks cock
@@kejarebi you're literally just that type of person he is describing
One of Ohne's worst takes is his opinion on valorant when he has no idea about it. As someone who plays both and enjoys different things about each, I don't think you have to choose one or the other.
*ohne proudly admits that he has never played valorant*
him a few minutes later : "i say valorant is trash"
It's like calling a fruit disgusting by just looking at it, you can do that but just admit you're close minded as fvck.
He’s not wrong tho
i think valorant is artistically great for attracting women to the game and the fact that they managed to pull such a large female userbase into it is probably one of the biggest feats in fps gaming
As a player of both games, this video is so accurate, both of them have their strengths and flaws, but mainly both games are ass lol but we still love it
I enjoy both games, got really into Valorant for like a year and was first game I went competitive on, but stopped playing a few months ago due to work getting busy. Now I play CSGO and love that most of what made me decent at val transferred over(my aim, lol).
I play Val cause having to deal with lineups is just inherently unfun to me and I know that it will be a bigger and bigger part of the game the better you get. (There are some agents in val that don't need lineups where I know this won't be a bottleneck)
this mf is so edgy for no reason xD
Both games are good in their own ways, this guy is super immature
true, i also hate those kids on the internet talking "cs is real game and valorant is not" its so fucking stupid.
@Knot Robin what kind of argument is this now? its pretty obvious that ohne is just crying all the time when valorant is mentioned or discussed.
@@knotrobin2898 I play both games and while yes I do prefer Valorant I can still say that he is being immature about valorant. Clearly valorant is successful and just because he doesn't see the stuff in valorant as good without trying it doesnt mean its automatically a terrible game
@@knotrobin2898 L ass immature csgo commenter coming from a cs:go player. get some perspective and some respect little boy
I mean you can have a opinion of the game ofcourse, but ohne is hating on things he sees for one second and doesnt even know at all. Valorant is objectivily just a diffrent experience, i play both because the basics are the same the mechanics stay but its just a whole diffrent feeling from each another no need to hate one of them without ever trying
Problem with "trying" Valourant is that it's literal Chinese malware.
@@102ndsmirnov7 if you have a problem with that then don't play it but for 22 million that isn't a problem, maybe if you get the child porn off your computer you wouldn't be so worried about downloading deep anti cheat and the results of that anti cheat are undeniable, i have only played cs for the last few months and have encountered more cheaters in 3 months than in 2 years of valorant. will it make me stop playing cs:go? absolutely not but I do wish they had valorant anti cheat when I end up facing a cheater
@@102ndsmirnov7 The anti-cheat is exacty like FaceIt and ESEA's. If you're happy with those, you can play Valorant with zero issues.
@@102ndsmirnov7 it’s korean dumbass. it’s also been 3 years since it came out and no reports of that.
Pixel acting like CSGO is hardcore 😂
Both games are incredible and different
"he bugged this smoke, he can see through it but enemies can't, Valorant could never"
bro what
the 1 ways in csgo make it cancerous to play valorant is more simplified so you can just focus on shooting enemies instead of worrying about learning lineups on youtube
@@lemonke5341 i just thought it was funny that he saw a borderline gamebreaking bug as a flex lol
@@alexg3911 yea suprised a glitch was aloud in a tournament
I respect Valorant as a CS player, i don't get why valorant haters complain about the game being a copy of csgo, but the moment they see something that's different in Valorant, they make a disgusted face, like they expect the game to follow every rule of cs, even thought it's a stand alone game, and it has is own rules and gameplay
And most of all, if it wasn't for Valorant, Valve wouldn't have competition, that means we would get even less stuff then what we get now
@@synso6527 yeah most people definitely are bias
the game is hated for being mixed with: csgo, overwatch, fortnite, leage of legends and a sprinkle of tf2, and overrall it still has a cringe comunnity like theyre not thankfull for the game theyre playing, cringe is same like toxic: it makess people wanna leave the game
I use my faceit ranking to determine how good I am as a player, got to top 1K in the UK and at that point I determined I'm at least above average but it's a good way to distinguish your ability
tried play faceit on US west just the other night and there were only 82 players queueing..... rank disparity in that match was awful :(
bro hating for no reason
So I built my first PC in 2020. Got into val, and I just started playing CSGO a few weeks ago. There's some things I like about val more and some things I like about CS more. It's not cut and dry "x is better than Y"
If only we could combine them and make the best game
This exactly. People need to learn to appreciate both games. They're both great, in their own, quirky ways.
@@hyenfps bad anime game ;)
@@nutskok5394 nah the separation is preferred, you can't combine them and make a better game but the ability to chose will allow everyone to pick whats best for them.
@@colinmanley7349 take csgos movement and mechanics while keeping valorants easy to learn and quality of life features and ranks
2:21 that emote man 😭😭
As a Csgo player you can get to upper ranks in valorant just off of game sense and team play. If one of your abilities is a flash. Flash out your tm8, etc, etc, etc. it’s very easy to transition. Gun play is a little different and movement is very different. Imo but I think it plays mostly the same. In valorant most people just run and gun tho now so I’ve recently stopped playing until they fix it
Classic cs players malding over valorant for no reason. Imagine going all your way to watch val related content with the sole purpose of hating on it. Cs players probably have one of the most narrow-minded community there is. Do these people not cringe over themselves acting like a kid tryna tell everyone their game is the best every chances they get?
What are you saying? He's a CS player watching a CS/Valorant comparison and he's... comparing them? Are you just frustrated that his opinion is unfavourable to Valorant?
@@kejarebi he's not doing a comparison, he's just blindly hating on the other game. Like how can you even say something is bad when you haven't even tried it yet, that's just being narrow-minded. The dude needs to get off his chair and do something else, he literally sucking on valves balls.
@@kejarebi i mean he went into the video and said he hopes that they hate on valorant and proceeds to say he never played valorant for just one second
@@flaimzz9408 that why i love him
valorant's queuing system is not completely random! in each act (or episode i can't remember), there is a pool of 7 playable maps that rotate, so you only have to play 7 maps at a certain time (this applies to unrated games, ranked games but also to pro tournaments)
Still If I like Anubis, Mirage and Cache I can play only those 3 maps. I dont have to queue for Vertigo or Inferno if I don't like them...
@@thestitchedcow5726 yes
@@davidmontgomery1442 yes
@@davidmontgomery1442 not for pro play and premier (the in-game tournament system) though where there are still picks and bans but for casual and ranked yes it's random (in the limits of these seven maps)
@@davidmontgomery1442 alr my bad then
when he said furry flash bang i lost it
im a new cs player from valorant and i placed mg1. ive been enjoying csgo and plan on continue to play both but ive barel touched val in the last month, csgo has felt really fresh tho
5:10 no shit he just call it the furry flashbang
close minded response
As a dota player since 2004 i feel the same way about LoL players
the WAS?! always gets me
Only played during valorant beta, actually made me drive back to CSGO even more
He glazing
Nice thumbnail very awesome
tried my best :D
bro seems unreasonable angry
office best map in csgo >:(
cs fans dont wanna realize that valorant is actually a good game. why is this community so immature and defensive.
surperiority complex
Nah just this dude and his weird skin community.
Prtty sure someone got banned for accidentally saying 1 bad thing in valo
I just play both honestly. If I get bored of cs, I’ll just Val for a few days or weeks then come back to cs.
i can say its a good idea with "skills with gun" but the most annoying part is that if i choose non flash or non smoke... then i cant use flash or smoke forever .
Why does he seem quite hateful to Valorant? (I don't play it, I prefer CS, but I see Valorant as a cool alternative to CS)
I mean csgo is his job so yeah he hate val
I only like valorant because its competition for CSGO
He's hateful because he doesn't like the game. It's not like he is paid by Valve to oppose Valorant.
@@likeaboss436 competition? Csgo has the most die hard fan base and an actually good competitive scene that is only growing. Valorant was the it game for a couple years but it’s slowly dying out (the pro scene I mean)
@@B00nater imagine saying Valo pro scene is dying when literal CSGO teams were mad about having not enough local competitions, thus making them fly their players for 100 hrs in the first 3 months of the year alone. I play both, and yes i like CS more, but Valo is also cool. STFU and backup your statements with facts.
Chad Esl bullying nerd valorant
trust me if there is trade option in valorant this man is the first one play valorant .
The unbelievable bias ohnepixel has makes me laugh out loud
ohne roasting valorant seems satisfying af
Valorant is literally cs 1.6 with abilities and that's why i like it more than csgo. Also while i played csgo, even in high elo most of my teammates didn't even know one smoke.
Well I guess valorant is good for you then because your teammates don't need to know smokes. They just open their smoke map and click the part of the map that they want the smoke on. It's an upside and a downside of valorant.
@@hobosnake1 some characters do need lineups for them tho, but i do agree most smoke character are so boring cus your job is so cut and dry
Finally someone who says it. It often feels like I’m playing CS1.6
@@hobosnake1 You still need knowledge to pull off one ways, plus one smokers smokes do require you to throw it down.
@@Emerald_Forge did you even read my message? I said it's cool knowledge. Doesn't change the fact that it's bad for accessibility and it isn't particularly fun to play against anyways.
Its weird to me that you were suprised about maps. You just learn to play the maps and have to adapt.
Ye true when the maps are good thats fine but putting a map like Fracture where defender spawn in DEAD CENTER of the map giving them fuck ton of advantage to rotate... In most games mid control is a win condition Well FUCK YOU NO MID TO CONTROL FOR ATTACKERS WE PUT FUCKING SPAWN THERE!
he says "valorant could never" when showing a game bug XD
Bro is scared he might like it
Valorant was my first ever game on mouse and keyboard, so I dont have a cs background. I love the game and I hate it when people from cs clown about it because its so similar but stylized and more beginner friendly. I like playing cs too but one thing that pisses me off sometimes is that some shots on their head just miss or dont register eventhough I would hit the shot in val.
love ohnepixel, love cs, love valorant, neither is harder than the other (its impossible for games to be harder than any other games, discussion for another day or ask if you're curious what I mean) but they are wildly different and both exceptionally fun. I believe it really comes down to do you prefer abilities or do you prefer grenades. also ohnepixel and other cs players often trash on val because they haven't played it and val players don't really ever have to trash on cs:go because they all played cs:go and realized they prefer valorant more.
How is it impossible for games to be harder than others? Objectively, starcraft is probably the hardest game ever made and fps games dont even compare. If you put in 5k hours in valorant or cs while focusing on improvement, youre guarranteed to become good. However there are people who have literally 20k hours in starcraft (there are only 11k hours inba year for reference) and are still considered c-tier scrubs.
@@mangarealm242 brodie, who on this earth said starcraft is a shooter?? The commenter saud "its impossible for games to be harder than other games", starcraft is a game, csgo and valorant are games. Therefore saying that starcraft is a game, and showing how itbis objectively harder than csgo and valorant disproves the statement "its impossible for games to be harder than any other games" notice tge words "any other games". Does that make it clearer lil bro?
This video is example of being Bias
it feels like riot shat on csgo gameplay by making this game
30-40% Female, no wonder it is 30-40% easier than CS, lul.
LOL
image riot did a 1:1 copy of csgo that would be lame , but they took the 5vs5 system and made it diffrent, why so many haters
well then we would have gotten cs with 128 tick servers and real ranked system. thats not lame.
@@Nukizuka 1:1 also means same tick and ranked system m8
@@redpandasarecool3 this is months old and you are still confused.
Relying on bugs to get advantage 😂😂
Ohne: They copy Cs go that’s it.
Also ohne: why tf does it called spike?
Bro is so salty he didn't make it in valorant
He says right at the start that he hasn't played it?
I am actually surprised that the video didn't even mentioned the Anti-Cheat systems of the games and cheating problem of cs:go, biggest bummer 😞😕
Valorant community - 40% womens and 60% simps
Tf2 comunity - 30% furrys 30% bots 30% friendly heavys 10% tryhards
Csgo comunity - 50% russians 50% other
Cod comunity - 100% every kind of chauvinism
gotta be like that for cs from my experience: 50% russian 5% skin collectors 30% other eu 15% na
i genuinely dont understand how someone who has obviously never played the game could possibly hate it this much. this is actually insane
most csgo players are cultists. I call it valvism
The best thing about Valorant is that it makes you appreciate CS all the more when you go back to it lmao
That video's creator is that one guy who thinks every first person shooter is a rip off of csgo
hell yeah dude i love flying around the corner with a rocket launcher in a tactical shooter game like its fortnite
keyword tactical shooter xD
Tell me you've never played Valorant without telling me
that rocket as actually very fucking glitchy and most of the time it only gets 1-2 kills with maybe some follow up casue the ass radius and the enemys ability to simply walk back most the 5k raze ults are at the very start of the fouind where u dont even know there at your site untill the satcheling
As someone who has been in love with CS for nearly 2 decades I will have to say that valorant is actually quite a fun game when playing with friends. Just don’t go into thinking it’s another fps like CS… I hated games like overwatch and destiny because of all the over the top ability’s but valorant just has a very nice feel too it compared to those games
I agree it's better than overwatch, but to me the ultimates and utility in valorant are actually quite over the top. Nothing like getting molotov'd remotely. Or turning a corner into a turret. Ot shooting a guy and one tapping him with the vandal and then actually oh its a fake guy and you're flashed 🤦♂️. Don't get me started on the guy who can stealth up behind you invisible like a world of warcraft rogue. It's just over the top for my tastes. I liked valorant in the beta when it was more like CS and less like overwatch. Now it's approaching more of the overwatch/moba ability usage games. Csgo is mostly mechanical skill. Valorant is a little more ability based and strategic. Not saying one is better than the other, but csgo doesn't annoy me and valorant does. I've at least a thousand hours in both. So there's my two cents.
@@hobosnake1 you have plenty of time to dodge the flash of the clone and the invis is hella loud, all things can be counteracted if you know what you are doing
@@specificocean4176 oh I'm aware. I watch pro play. I see the counterplay that happens and respect people who can do it. I require the learning progress to be fun though, and for me it's not fun playing against most of that stuff. Raze rocket is a great example. You can easily run away and not get hit, but is that fun? I don't personally think it's very fun. Same goes with most ults and stuff. Just not a fan. That's OK though. I'm glad valo exists for people who like it.
@@hobosnake1 true, some things like KJ ult really is just dumb
I agree that it's fun with friends but I find Overwatch and CS way more enjoyable because I find the movement way smoother, also I cba to learn what every ability does and I find map design and aesthetic way too simple
It's ratio Ig. Yeah its normally ok to hate a copied game. But Valorant is not only inspired by the csgo mechanics. That's why they are very different starting with the role distribution on rank games.
The only thing that’s good about Val skin system is that it’s affordable a Cs veteran with 10k hours is proly not going to get his fav knife ever, but in val if its in ur shop it’s pretty much yours. Also the Radinite systems is fucked, it should be that u get the full skin upgraded and u can pay for the extra variants that’s fine, and they should def introduce some trading system at least once per skin.
Downloaded Valorant, got halfway through the tutorial before i quit and uninstalled the game and went back to cs
Cs is for boring guys who don’t want to go try new things…
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And valo is for 14 year old fucktards who would die of boredom if it wasnt for the eyecancer dogshit abilites this game shoves in your face every 0.2 seconds
@@sqpreme4740 so true with the eye cancer, like youve seen the game play? my eye veins could never in a dark room, it would just damage me when playing and i know it when its hard to watch for me lol
As someone who has a shit ton hours on Valo and 6k+hours on cs, I would like to say its 60/40 cs/valo. The only reason csgo is over is just because of nostalgic reasons and the love I have for it. Valo pro scene>cs pro scene atm (for watching)
Ehhh, not really, in cs its just way easier to follow and generally has more hype (could be due to nostalgia as you said), but for me the casting talent just sucks compared to CS.
@@L0ngF0rm casting, yes. playstyle, no. The difference is I can call out what is going to happen in a round just by watching where people are going. What type of executes and strats. Not saying csgo is bad to watch either, I do love that but its all the same. ATM people still find new things and strats on valorant. Hopefully CS2 will change my mind even more with big changes in maps.
Cs players are like these nostalgic wow players who still play wow classic in 2023 even though there are so good alternative MMOs.
its just OverWatch had a baby with Cs but overwatch did a ton of drugs and that is what the baby came out like
This video was like tell me you're hardstuck silver without telling me you're hardstuck silver. 90% of this video, the original video i mean, isn't like totally accurate. The fact you cannot pick maps is actually good, because it means you HAVE to learn them all, although there's only 7. Which is kinda like the active map pool in CSGO. There is LOTS of utility in valorant but honestly most people don't use it properly. Instead of there being a few types of utility to not use properly, each agent has at least 2 unique bits of utility that low ranked idiots don't understand. It feels like Valorant is more of an aim game at low ranks, and you honestly don't come across people working as a team until Diamond ish. I went out of my way to throw consistent util every round in CSGO, and got to DMG. I'm currently diamond in Valorant, which means that basically i should have teammates that understand the fundamentals, but they just don't. I tend to just play Mirage and Cache in CS, but i think if i was forced to play 5 other maps too, including new ones like anubis and ancient, I'd be a much lower rank, similar to where i sit in valorant, but at least NOBODY knows the news maps in Val when they drop, so everyone is just as bad map knowedge wise, and that's where raw skill comes in. Overall, i think Val is harder because there are SO many raw aimers, but it's also easier than CS because you can rely on your characters abilities to carry you through gunfights. I love both games, but valorant deffo has a charm that CS doesn't have - until CS2? Plus, you can't tell me that the reason CS2 is even a thing is because Valve needs to clean the game up for sponsors/to compete with valorant and bring those pros back to the game - and also sell more skins lol.
People who said that you cant pick map is GOOD is dumb. We dont have all the time in the world learning all the map and line up. And your whole argument is that "no its not op because most of the people cant use it well" wtf lmao the problem is that there just too many util and it will became cluttered the more character introduced. Both amazing game but cmon valorant gunplay is way wordt and movement is so bad in valorant. And go try carry alone in valorant when your utility is locked as a certain role. Oh and the crappy map design that val have. Im plat in val and i can say that val is going to be shitier if they didnt slow down agent release and just freaking make replay mode that they promised 2 years ago
Compete with valorant in what? xD csgo has better esports with more viewers, it makes more money through case unboxings and its rich market, and it has a very high player base. The pros that left aren't even top 20 in csgo even in their peaks (kinda makes you wonder why they left in the first place) and they are mostly NA which doesn't impact much in CSGO as it's a heavily EU game. I'm not trying to shit on valo, but this is just facts. The only thing that valorant has that csgo doesn't are 128 tick servers and a better MM system (probably anti-cheat as well, but I haven't really looked into it). Sponsors are great and all, but I don't believe valve is willing to sacrifice a portion of their player base just to change "terrorists" to "attackers", because believe it or not, that would make a huge difference to a lot of people. CS2 has been in development before valorant came out, it's definitely not a move to "compete" with valorant, it is happening because they want to port their most popular game to the source 2 engine so we can have better and faster updates. Although I would lie if I were to say I wouldn't want more people into csgo, I'm fine with it as it is right now, If valve truly went all out to pander to a new audience, the old audience would all have left by then.
For the gameplay portion, I won't speak of it, it comes down to preference in the end, although I don't agree one is harder over the other. I agree valorant is more appealing to the younger generation and females with it's flashiness, csgo is for the diehard fans most of which have been playing for a long time and that makes it a bit hard to get into it in the first place.
@@TheLazar876 a lot of the things you said either are not relevant or just wrong, so either you’re ignorant or you’re believing an idea so much that you’ve trained your mind to think it’s facts.
@@oranzbowl enlighten me on what's wrong, or "not relevant".
@@oranzbowl you literally dismissed his whole statement with zero argument behind your comment, its as if your comment has no reason to exist, you didn't even opine on anything aside from making a claim you can't back up
Having played cs for almost a decade while mainly playing valorant since it came out I think we can at the very least appreciate the competition between the two games that makes both push themselves forward. Also valorant is mid outside of a team environment, ranked players are some other breed.
I do not understand how someone can hate a game without ever playing it, not even once.
Its crazy honestly.
And even if csgo players tried val they would still hate it
Because the game is too complex to understand and master at first glance since it has changed quite a lot since the beta (and not to mention all the smurfs in the game would make it harder for them to play)
I play both games and I can say that however it depends from person to person. I honestly prefer valorant because I find it more strategic, dynamic and fast. Strategic because, having the possibility to create different comps for each map, it makes the game always different and with new strategies to use or learn. The thing I hate most about cs go is the ranked system and the draw. imagine coming to a 15-15 match, why would I want to settle for a draw when I spent 1 hour or more on that match? at least valorant gives you the possibility to choose (now you will tell me that it's different on faceit, I know it's different, but here I'm talking about ranked systems, not third-party software)
u still gain elo on 15-15. plenty of times i ranked up that way.
@@rikitikitoki you didn't get my point. If I play ranked I want to win, not draw. I'm not talking about elo. If in valorant someone clicks draw after we've played 15 rounds I really go crazy. I'd rather lose than draw, if I spend 1 hour on a game I want to end it by winning or losing.
My game's better! 👆🤓
cs better
Imagine being a boomer and still manually click the red line to replay a scene on youtube.
This dude has a weird way to hate something
I think the worst part about Valorant is simply the Map design. CSGO is simple, but it's sight lines are abundant, even on their worst maps
Valorant is very simple and, while it makes a non-fps player get pretty good at the gunplay (I know of some female players that have literally only played casual minecraft, and they're like Immortal 3 rn),
it certainly makes it a lot harder to add variety to defense
But Valorant's skins are so much cooler and I'll stand by that
I thought the same, good mechanics, gunplay, art style but the map design sucks hard
The skin is indeed cool, but I can't get that money back. I loved Csgo for community market. Hehe
@@HafifSyukra do IRL stocks instead
You know ohne is either pissed or confused when he drops in a few random "WAS?!" and "Oh nein! Nein!" combos.
FPS? Leave it to Valve. Because CS is just THE competitive shooter.
MOBA? Leave it to Riot. Because it's so much fucking better than Dota.
MMO? Leave it to Blizzard. Or Riot. We'll see.
Because WoW is/was great, but Riot's MMO is coming, and there's this one thing about League of Legends that I say every single day. Everything about League of Legends is perfection, like lore, designs, music, characters, the world of Runeterra, except the game itself is shit but addictive, especially the pro scene if you know what you're watching. Now take everything from League, except for the game, and make an MMO out of it. That's a pretty kick-ass idea, and Riot are already working on it.
so, league is better because everything, except the gameplay, which is the most valuable criteria, is better? dota has some cool lore too, but it isn't available on your fingertips, you have to look for it and join it piece by piece. gameplay comes first, then all the skins, lore and anything else. if we took league lore and dota gameplay, we could make the ultimate action rts, though sadly it isn't going to be real anytime soon.
Lol is not better than dota 😂
@@An0m3L1 dota lore just meh compared to league. But yes their gameplay is better because all of the heroes were made up with gameplay first then lore. Just take a look at their Netflix show. Arcane just better in everything. Riot really having an easy time grabbing their new audience with less complicated things. You know LoL, and Valorant is also easier than DotA and CS
@@An0m3L1I play mostly league and love its pro scene but i tried dota for a week and watched some pro matches from youtube. I can say without a doubt dota's gameplay can only be liked by small group of people who like to have their flash range and teamfights be done in just a second like a time bomb. the team fights in dota is sooo soooooo boring comapred to the hype that league of legends have.