Daniel Bwala is a sound lawyer, he made it so simple for me to understand. If you are not biased, you will agree with him that he is saying the right thing.
No, you're wrong, he is only sound in twisting the interpretation of the law against whatever the present administration does as an opposition member, and definitely, people like you who don't want to see anything good in whatever the president does will surely always fall for his mischief in interpreting the law. Why was he trying to import into the wording of that section of the law what is not there despite it having been shown to all viewers on the screen? That isn't mischievous, right? Now read this: "The definition of cognate experience in today’s job market is simple: it’s the experience that is relevant to the specific job description. In reality, it’s a very broad concept that can include not only work experience, but also professional and soft skills, as well as prior education."
Bwala has always remained very sound & logical. Ubani is representing the appointed chair, and may be expecting appointment from the chair if confirmed.
Has Dr. Ubani started to eat 'corn'? This argument is very much unlike ubani. I don't think we need to be sweating over the meaning of ' cognate' experience. Cognate experience of a doctor and a nurse is not the same even though they're both medical professionals. In a normal society, a nurse would not apply for job meant for doctors.
There are lawyers, and there are lawyers. Mr Ubani just came for a lecture, & I believe he will be well educated. Thanks to Bwala, your insightful lectures. Personal Interests beclouds their sense of judgment
@@wigcap7012Hate blind people from reasoning straight. Bwala is the king of sophistry in Nigeria. He just throws ideas in the air to take people's mind off the truth and object of the matter.
Can the driver of the former efcc chairman be appointed as the chairman of the commission because he worked as the driver of the efcc chairman? If he can be appointed just because he worked as the driver to the chairman then the cleaner can also be appointed. If that's the case , I reserve my comments.
How on earth will someone relate a lawyer with a driver? What a mess! Do you know what it means to be a practitioner lawyer? You're equating these two lawyers in this studio with a driver even if the driver has 50 years work experience. Please out of sentiment, I enjoy Monday Ubani for his clear explanation. I am not a lawyer and I have learned from Mr. Monday Ubani. Mr. Bwala only came to create issues... I am not learning from him oooo
There quite a lot different btw skilled and unskilled workers. No yardstick, no comparison and there's division of labour in all organisations . Driver , cleaner, lawyer, Doctor , Mechanic etc all are important with due respect also required to work in their capacity respectively.
@@oluwaseyeige7691 Let's try to understand what Mr. Bwala has said. The last comments he made was the hammer on the issue then Mr. Ubani responded with the matter is in court or before the senate. Someone who has not cognate experience can't be the chairman of the commission because he doesn't have the relative experience. Secondly, personally, I feel anyone who has been indicted shouldn't be handling a sensitive position. They both spoke well but the issue remains the issue
@@oluwaseyeige7691 I find it very strange that “people” out of their bias will always spew arguments that don’t make any sense. What you’d ask yourself is what is the meaning of Cognate? The Webster Dictionary defines it as of the “same or similar in nature” : generically alike! A detective and an attorney are not same or similar, period! It seems like folks will always find alternative truths or falsehoods to benefit their agenda/position. Crazy thing is that those who align themselves with these lies and falsehoods always tend to see nothing wrong with it! This behavior or attitude is referred to as (WIIFM) “what’s in it for me”, very sad!
Anyone that failed to view video but dropped his/her comment based on the opinion of those ŵho have been overwhelmed with hate, is wrong. ICPC acts was clear on its requirements which was what Bwala was busying using. Was that what makes Bwala good debater 😅? No! The cognate experience wasn't tied to EFCC experience. That's very clear! Ubani was right. 😅. The court will make clarity on it
Lady and gentlemen, the issue is that the present leadership is setting a bad precedent for the country as a whole. I pray that knowledge and understanding should be apply for a good nation.
This is the level of madness. Knowing how important EFCC is , should we even be nominating someone that we have to debate his qualifications?? Smh. Aren’t we suppose to look at the top notch candidates?
Bwala should be the AGF. Very sound. Very articulate. Very cerebral. A delight to watch & listen to. Bwala mocked Ubani with his superior arguments & made him look stupid
cognate experiences is mandatory..it just like applying for job and u are required to have cognate experiences which is base on the role u apply for..on this Bwala is totally right.
Someone is coming to fight crime but still has crime on him. APC has opened our eyes to the ambiguity of the Nigerian constitution which happens to be Nigeria's number one problem right now.
With due respect, Mr Ubani's view is misconceived and erroneous. S 2 of the EFCC ACT, having stated that the chairman of the EFCC is to be a serving or retired police officer or member of security agencies or law enforcement agencies means that the 15 years cognate experience must be acquired while serving as the police officer or member of the security agencies or law enforcement agencies. IT is absurd to hold the view that experience acquired in other capacity is to be counted
Cognate experience in the Public service simply means similar experiences in that field not necessarily with the public service. Bar. Bwala I don't agree with you on this. However you are a fine lawyer a young leader I appreciate
The man on the defensive of the new efcc chairman doesn’t know what he’s talking. He should have firstly, understand the meaning of cognate before arguing in defense. The problem is, some people think that they are embodiment of knowledge. Daniel Bwala is on the right footing, 💯.
My take: The Act is very clear and has no ambiguity. Olukoyede is not qualified to Chair the EFCC. Regarding the phrase "cognate experience" it means having the experience and skills in any activity or role one is required to perform. Can this be said of Olukoyede? Most non Yoruba speakers erroneously pronounce the name as Olukayode
It is very unfortunate we tend to interpret the laws to suit our purpose and misinterpret other laws to defeat our purpose. Whom are we deceiving. What ever happened to the word "AND" in section 134 of the Nigeria constitution. Shame on you all for killing Nigeria rules of laws.
I don't know whether this guy has ever won any case in the court. Falana, Agbakoba and now Ubani all SAN share the same view on this matter, this small lawyer is still struggling to mislead the public... I don't need to be a lawyer before I can agree with Ubani when you talk about 'cognate experience'
The level Nigeria is degrading to ,we should continue playing politics with every thing ,we all will surfer or enjoy it together ,why must this government always do things to spur debate ? When will they depart from this trend?
Another thing is that every provision of Law, stand on another existing law, so I was thought during my time in university studying business law. Bwala is right. The second provision stands on the first provision
@@soothingrelaxationwithsmit2716u well so? How do you become ACP or AIG with less than 15yrs cognate experience in Police? Do you recruit Police senior officers from the market or beer parlour? Na waah o!
@@emygeegab9175 in Nigeria miracles happens but the act makes it imperative that you must have stayed in the government force for a minimum of 15 years for you to qualify
Even if it is specified, it will not be respected. The issue of 25% requirement in FCT Abuja was specified, clear and unambigous but was turned upside down by the Nigerian court. There is no law in Nigeria. Please gentlemen talk less of rule of law in Nigeria.
Cognate experience is an experience related to the position. The cognate experience can not stand alone as Mr Unani is trying to show. The cognate experience must be related to the position of chairman.
You need to have attended up to secondary school to be Nigeria president and appoint EFCC chairman. 😅😅😅😅 EFCC chairman is overqualified based on the qualifications to become his boss.
I don't understand Bar Ubani anymore. Cognate experience is related to position in question which is the position of the Chairman. Why are you isolating the cognate experience from the previous subsections.
Its is in this administration that we find people arguing against clearly written statements in thr constitution. It has become a norm now after.. An NYSC youth corper serving as minister at the same time😊 With the support of the judiciary, it is now a relevant skill to misinterprete clearly stated elements of law
Must everything or law about our constitution litigious? The ambiguity in it is carelessly noticable. About time to have a constitution from the people if truly we want to be taken seriously in the world stage.I stand to be corrected.
Why should this job be open for police and security people only. And it seems to me that people are scared of calling pdp out. Why should people have to have 15 years Experience to be qualified for a job. The man is highly intelligent and well educated for the job. Even In the West, it is not acceptable for you to need 15 years qualification for job!! I think pdp is scared of the man.
Why is Niigerian law always ambiguous and allows for multiple translations. That's why politicians and FG can twist the law the way they want it to suit their objective. .
It baffles me when you see two lawyers interpreting same act differently. Why can’t our law mean the same thing to an ordinary man on the street. Why do we have all these self-satisfying interpretations in Nigeria. Our so called Elites or educated are the problems of Nigeria. If the table turns tomorrow, same Bwala will be seen give a completely different interpretation to the same EFCC act. We have a long way to go in Nigeria.
Does the Law specifically say that the Person must have worked as an Officer in the Security Agencies? Is the said Man a Security Officer..??? What is his Rank in the Body ? Being a secretary in the EFCC does it make someone a Ranked Security Officer ? Any Individual can be employed as a Secretary or Chief of Staff. But the Law said the EFCC Chairperson must be A Security Officer with A distinct RANK who had served for a specific period of time.
I have said Mr Ubani is a shameless man, he has always chewed his words while defending the APC. This man should be made to go and sit down, his shame is shaming me.
I don't understand why we keep debating someone's qualifications for his appointment since this APC govt started in 2015... and continuing this charade, from Buhari's certifcate scandal, from nominating dead people for govt positions, to Tinubu's certificate scandal, to appointing a serving a serving NYSC CORP member as Minister, to appointing a 25years as Chair of a board, to now EFCC chair, Is it that we don't have qualified people to run govt again or what?
It looks like English translation has become a problem for Nigeria constitution. There's always a problem to clarify simple English like "and". This time it's "cognitive". I think we should convert our constitution to pidgin English.
Daniel Bwala is a sound lawyer, he made it so simple for me to understand. If you are not biased, you will agree with him that he is saying the right thing.
No, you're wrong, he is only sound in twisting the interpretation of the law against whatever the present administration does as an opposition member, and definitely, people like you who don't want to see anything good in whatever the president does will surely always fall for his mischief in interpreting the law. Why was he trying to import into the wording of that section of the law what is not there despite it having been shown to all viewers on the screen? That isn't mischievous, right? Now read this: "The definition of cognate experience in today’s job market is simple: it’s the experience that is relevant to the specific job description. In reality, it’s a very broad concept that can include not only work experience, but also professional and soft skills, as well as prior education."
@@giwaahmed5961totally agree with you
Thank you Mr ubani for enlighten us
Man of wisdom Daniel Bwala.. much respect
Bwala I stand up for your experience. This present Senate will never do the right thing.
bwala has scttered table
this man is a gem
A gem to the dullards.
Bwala has always remained very sound & logical.
Ubani is representing the appointed chair, and may be expecting appointment from the chair if confirmed.
I love you DANIEL BWALA ❤…He always argue intelligently. Highly cerebral man 👌🏾
Daniel Bwala is a genius here. Very apt.
Has Dr. Ubani started to eat 'corn'? This argument is very much unlike ubani. I don't think we need to be sweating over the meaning of ' cognate' experience. Cognate experience of a doctor and a nurse is not the same even though they're both medical professionals. In a normal society, a nurse would not apply for job meant for doctors.
He has been misyarning recently!
the same thing am thinking,
Walahi I used to love this man but I don't understand him anymore
Bwala has said it all please
Thank you mr Sunday bwala
This was educative enough and well respective of each other..with smiles at the end...i love this ..
But I tend to agree with the man that says HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO HEAD EFCC WITH THE EXPERIENCE REQUIRED
People just intentionally act stupid because of interest. Cognate experience is experience in related field
Bwala is a man of wisdom,i love him from the bottom of my heart
I love Bwala, very intelligent argument and truth
Even if Tinubu appoints a Medical doctor to chair efcc, his boys will still come to TV to defend it.
The most Difficult job in the world is depending Tinibu
Lawyers in Nigeria interpret the law based on the political divide they stand. And not based on the constitution. 😂😂😂
There are lawyers, and there are lawyers.
Mr Ubani just came for a lecture, & I believe he will be well educated.
Thanks to Bwala, your insightful lectures.
Personal Interests beclouds their sense of judgment
I have listened to both sides of the argument and I am convinced that Bwala got it right. Ubani is set to flush his reputation down the sewers.
How can two lawyers be seeing same section of the EFCC ACT differently???
If lawyers are talking like this, what will the layman say?
Ubani and Bwala spoke very well.
Mr Ubani’s explanation is crass
This Monday Ubani, is something else
Daniel carried the day. I ❤him and he was so sound.
You people are so shallow thinking this man is lying to you If it was PDP he won't be saying that
@@wigcap7012Hate blind people from reasoning straight. Bwala is the king of sophistry in Nigeria. He just throws ideas in the air to take people's mind off the truth and object of the matter.
APC always putting lawyers on edge. Controversy upon controversy.
Constitutional crisis, upon constitutional crisis.
Can the driver of the former efcc chairman be appointed as the chairman of the commission because he worked as the driver of the efcc chairman?
If he can be appointed just because he worked as the driver to the chairman then the cleaner can also be appointed. If that's the case , I reserve my comments.
How on earth will someone relate a lawyer with a driver? What a mess! Do you know what it means to be a practitioner lawyer? You're equating these two lawyers in this studio with a driver even if the driver has 50 years work experience. Please out of sentiment, I enjoy Monday Ubani for his clear explanation. I am not a lawyer and I have learned from Mr. Monday Ubani. Mr. Bwala only came to create issues... I am not learning from him oooo
There quite a lot different btw skilled and unskilled workers. No yardstick, no comparison and there's division of labour in all organisations . Driver , cleaner, lawyer, Doctor , Mechanic etc all are important with due respect also required to work in their capacity respectively.
@@oluwaseyeige7691 Let's try to understand what Mr. Bwala has said. The last comments he made was the hammer on the issue then Mr. Ubani responded with the matter is in court or before the senate.
Someone who has not cognate experience can't be the chairman of the commission because he doesn't have the relative experience. Secondly, personally, I feel anyone who has been indicted shouldn't be handling a sensitive position. They both spoke well but the issue remains the issue
@@oluwaseyeige7691 is he being apponted as chief justice or as an EFCC chairman
@@oluwaseyeige7691
I find it very strange that “people” out of their bias will always spew arguments that don’t make any sense. What you’d ask yourself is what is the meaning of Cognate? The Webster Dictionary defines it as of the “same or similar in nature” : generically alike! A detective and an attorney are not same or similar, period!
It seems like folks will always find alternative truths or falsehoods to benefit their agenda/position. Crazy thing is that those who align themselves with these lies and falsehoods always tend to see nothing wrong with it!
This behavior or attitude is referred to as (WIIFM) “what’s in it for me”, very sad!
Bwala is most learned lawyer
Sound lawyer, Mr Bwala. Intelligent Nigerian
Nigerian Law is FULL of ambiguity.
(a) Why not make the director come from the rank and file of the EFCC.
(b) Security agencies should mount the post.
Law is straight forward. Bwala is explaining ICPC act which is different from EFCC act.
I agree with Bwala
Anyone that failed to view video but dropped his/her comment based on the opinion of those ŵho have been overwhelmed with hate, is wrong. ICPC acts was clear on its requirements which was what Bwala was busying using. Was that what makes Bwala good debater 😅? No! The cognate experience wasn't tied to EFCC experience. That's very clear! Ubani was right. 😅.
The court will make clarity on it
Where in Uk has he worked, so we can go and verify..
Mmmmmmmmmmmh , Mr. Ubani , from. top. to bottom . REPENT .
Lady and gentlemen, the issue is that the present leadership is setting a bad precedent for the country as a whole. I pray that knowledge and understanding should be apply for a good nation.
This is the level of madness. Knowing how important EFCC is , should we even be nominating someone that we have to debate his qualifications?? Smh. Aren’t we suppose to look at the top notch candidates?
The opposition will always criticise every move of the government in power. Everything is politicised
Bwala is ready to go the other one is a quake lawyer
Bwala should be the AGF. Very sound. Very articulate. Very cerebral. A delight to watch & listen to. Bwala mocked Ubani with his superior arguments & made him look stupid
Stop that... who is he going to prosecute tinubu, wike, senate president or buhari..???
Did we have senate in Nigeria?
Nice one chamberlain "we can only say go to break here"
Anybody who's not seeing the Sincerity and the clearly spelt out the constitutional intendment of the constitution, is part of the Nigerian problem.
pick yoruba people...i dont care.....but pick qualified yoruba people with good moral standing....
Bwala is very sound. Ofcus Olukoyode is not qualified to head the EFCC
Interestingly Ubani did not say anything on the issue of indictment....
This Tinubu boys can turn black to white
I disagree with Ubani. Some of these lawyers are always wanting to create problems for this country. I agree with Bwuala's position absolutely.
The New efcc chairman more be a man have a very good record in all the days of in professionalism
cognate experiences is mandatory..it just like applying for job and u are required to have cognate experiences which is base on the role u apply for..on this Bwala is totally right.
The EFCC driver is also qualified
Someone is coming to fight crime but still has crime on him.
APC has opened our eyes to the ambiguity of the Nigerian constitution which happens to be Nigeria's number one problem right now.
With this Document Constitution of Many agencies this Country not anywhere
With due respect, Mr Ubani's view is misconceived and erroneous. S 2 of the EFCC ACT, having stated that the chairman of the EFCC is to be a serving or retired police officer or member of security agencies or law enforcement agencies means that the 15 years cognate experience must be acquired while serving as the police officer or member of the security agencies or law enforcement agencies. IT is absurd to hold the view that experience acquired in other capacity is to be counted
Last last, na lawyers go end this country called Nigeria.
Make una go court and stop disturbing us.
Cognate experience in the Public service simply means similar experiences in that field not necessarily with the public service. Bar. Bwala I don't agree with you on this. However you are a fine lawyer a young leader I appreciate
The man on the defensive of the new efcc chairman doesn’t know what he’s talking. He should have firstly, understand the meaning of cognate before arguing in defense. The problem is, some people think that they are embodiment of knowledge. Daniel Bwala is on the right footing, 💯.
Bwala is a law teacher.For those asking.
My take: The Act is very clear and has no ambiguity. Olukoyede is not qualified to Chair the EFCC. Regarding the phrase "cognate experience" it means having the experience and skills in any activity or role one is required to perform. Can this be said of Olukoyede? Most non Yoruba speakers erroneously pronounce the name as Olukayode
Cognate means related. His legal experience doesn't relate to his efcc job.
These lawyers are just twisting English to confuse people.
Ubani should go back to school.
It is very unfortunate we tend to interpret the laws to suit our purpose and misinterpret other laws to defeat our purpose.
Whom are we deceiving. What ever happened to the word "AND" in section 134 of the Nigeria constitution.
Shame on you all for killing Nigeria rules of laws.
I don't know whether this guy has ever won any case in the court. Falana, Agbakoba and now Ubani all SAN share the same view on this matter, this small lawyer is still struggling to mislead the public... I don't need to be a lawyer before I can agree with Ubani when you talk about 'cognate experience'
Barrister Ubani has always had sympathy for the apc and at some point, he fell out of them but it is very obvious that he wants to go back.
So if you are a gateman at efcc , you are then also qualified 😂
Oga Bwala… asst commissioner of police isn’t on the same level as asst director of DSS …
The level Nigeria is degrading to ,we should continue playing politics with every thing ,we all will surfer or enjoy it together ,why must this government always do things to spur debate ? When will they depart from this trend?
Degradation Powered by the judiciary....
Another thing is that every provision of Law, stand on another existing law, so I was thought during my time in university studying business law. Bwala is right. The second provision stands on the first provision
Define the cognizant because the paragraph stands alone
@@apalarababatunde7491 you can be deputy commissioner of police or AIG without having 15 yrs in the security as such you are not qualify
@@soothingrelaxationwithsmit2716u well so? How do you become ACP or AIG with less than 15yrs cognate experience in Police? Do you recruit Police senior officers from the market or beer parlour? Na waah o!
@@emygeegab9175 in Nigeria miracles happens but the act makes it imperative that you must have stayed in the government force for a minimum of 15 years for you to qualify
@@emygeegab9175it seems you didn't get his point, read it again perhaps you'll get his argument
Ubani is humbled by Bwala's presence.
Ubani looking for appointment from tinubu and he will get nadir
Let him gain more experience on the job..he will use some experience Police in EFCC to succeed.
BBwala is better we take it to court and fight it out instead of coming here making noise
Ubani does not know the meaning of cognate.
Quite unfortunate 😕
As the law stands (until amended), Bwala is right and Ubani wrong! Both are fine lawyers by the way.
Is the appointee himself saint?
Even if it is specified, it will not be respected. The issue of 25% requirement in FCT Abuja was specified, clear and unambigous but was turned upside down by the Nigerian court. There is no law in Nigeria. Please gentlemen talk less of rule of law in Nigeria.
Where the person come from is not the problem! We need a decent man, we need a man who is ready to tell Nigeria the truth
The truth is that they appoint someone who will not hurt them. If efcc want to fight corruption let start from the politicians
Aside from Ribadu please mention any EFCC Formal chairman who has never been accused nepotism and corruption
In our country, no EFCC chairman can "hurt them"
Cognate experience is an experience related to the position. The cognate experience can not stand alone as Mr Unani is trying to show. The cognate experience must be related to the position of chairman.
These lawyers are making me doubt English language. They'll just complicate every written word
You need to have attended up to secondary school to be Nigeria president and appoint EFCC chairman. 😅😅😅😅 EFCC chairman is overqualified based on the qualifications to become his boss.
I don't understand Bar Ubani anymore.
Cognate experience is related to position in question which is the position of the Chairman. Why are you isolating the cognate experience from the previous subsections.
Monday is Igbo efulefus otelecturers
Was even this an issue during BUHARI era?
Its is in this administration that we find people arguing against clearly written statements in thr constitution.
It has become a norm now after..
An NYSC youth corper serving as minister at the same time😊
With the support of the judiciary, it is now a relevant skill to misinterprete clearly stated elements of law
@Chambaline it is not different matter, let you guest (Ubani) land his point.
The new efcc chairman in more be a man that don't have any corruption case at all
“Literal rule” not “literary rule” Sir,and you kept repeating it,come on🤷🏿♂️
Must everything or law about our constitution litigious? The ambiguity in it is carelessly noticable. About time to have a constitution from the people if truly we want to be taken seriously in the world stage.I stand to be corrected.
When u mix political ignorance with unyielding arrogance what you get is political blindness
Why should this job be open for police and security people only. And it seems to me that people are scared of calling pdp out. Why should people have to have 15 years Experience to be qualified for a job. The man is highly intelligent and well educated for the job. Even In the West, it is not acceptable for you to need 15 years qualification for job!! I think pdp is scared of the man.
This is how Bwala argue 25% FCT votes?
Why is Niigerian law always ambiguous and allows for multiple translations. That's why politicians and FG can twist the law the way they want it to suit their objective. .
It baffles me when you see two lawyers interpreting same act differently. Why can’t our law mean the same thing to an ordinary man on the street. Why do we have all these self-satisfying interpretations in Nigeria.
Our so called Elites or educated are the problems of Nigeria. If the table turns tomorrow, same Bwala will be seen give a completely different interpretation to the same EFCC act.
We have a long way to go in Nigeria.
To hell with ur submission bwala, we will break this protocol that has held Nigeria down so we could get the sound minds.. enough of this
This is public service not a professional service.
Does the Law specifically say that the Person must have worked as an Officer in the Security Agencies? Is the said Man a Security Officer..??? What is his Rank in the Body ? Being a secretary in the EFCC does it make someone a Ranked Security Officer ? Any Individual can be employed as a Secretary or Chief of Staff. But the Law said the EFCC Chairperson must be A Security Officer with A distinct RANK who had served for a specific period of time.
I have said Mr Ubani is a shameless man, he has always chewed his words while defending the APC.
This man should be made to go and sit down, his shame is shaming me.
Dan is lectural in Nigeria law school
I don't understand why we keep debating someone's qualifications for his appointment since this APC govt started in 2015... and continuing this charade, from Buhari's certifcate scandal, from nominating dead people for govt positions, to Tinubu's certificate scandal, to appointing a serving a serving NYSC CORP member as Minister, to appointing a 25years as Chair of a board, to now EFCC chair, Is it that we don't have qualified people to run govt again or what?
The new efcc chairman more be a man that have take gritty! in more be a man that is trustworthy
It looks like English translation has become a problem for Nigeria constitution. There's always a problem to clarify simple English like "and". This time it's "cognitive". I think we should convert our constitution to pidgin English.
😂😂😂😂😂. Yes pidgin language is better. To avoid stress.
Mr.bwala outshines the other quest in the studio,the other quest is talking rubbish
Ubani.The man is not an officer.