Romans verse.. proclaiming themselves wise, they became fools, most people who say all religions are the same have never studied any contradictions between those different religious books
I have to admit there was a time when I thought like that. Deep down, I think I knew it was a foolish idea, but solipsism is dangerously attractive. Sadly, it's also very narcissistic - the most tragic kind of narcissism, too, like a dog perpetually chasing its tale. It's actually good Cliff showed the man enough respect to tell him when he was being ignorant. That's what it takes to snap someone out of that kind of mental stronghold or stupor.
@@tomprowsemusic4864 its okay, the devil is cunning and fools many people. I almost got sucked into it after knowing Christ. but the word is sown in my soul and heart now. the devil will still try to uproot it though. watch and pray
Guy is clearly searching hard for the truth and connecting dots. He’s more of an original thinker then 98% of people. Trust me he will find Jesus if he keeps this search up.
@lljusttry I think you're right. My thinking was on the same track as the young man. I learned about anything I could get my hands on outside of mainstream religion, and one day the missing piece was revealed to me. Since accepting that Jesus is God everything has changed🎉 I pray the young man has ears to hear when the lord calls to him
@@Born_again1984 Usually no answer is good enough for people similar to him. God says all you have to do is believe. He knew that would be a big stretch for a lot of people but God made it simple for us who can observe and appreciate the proof of his existence.
All of you and Cliff are making the same mistake of thinking that guy also believes that God and Jesus are the same person. He actually even said he agrees that Jesus was a real person. But Cliff who believes Jesus is God assumes he means that both God and Jesus were invented. Huge disconnect there. So he defended Jesus existence despite dude saying he believed he was a real person instead of defending the aspect of God in heaven being real which is what he was referring to.
Is it possible this is brainwashing by our institutions? Aren’t they meant to be teaching higher thought and how to think for yourself instead of indoctrination?
All of you and Cliff are making the same mistake of thinking that guy also believes that God and Jesus are the same person. He actually even said he agrees that Jesus was a real person. But Cliff who believes Jesus is God assumes he means that both God and Jesus were invented. Huge disconnect there. So he defended Jesus existence despite dude saying he believed he was a real person instead of defending the aspect of God in heaven being real which is what he was referring to.
the end of the guy's argument I think really showed his true motives, he continues on to claim that consciousness is a trait of evolution, contradicting himself@@Kishin_junior
I know! Thing is, his concept works in a vacuum on its basic terms. what his idea fails to address however is the claims of Jesus. Ig Jesus is a historic figure and he made claims about himself, then gave those claims credibility by performing miracles that many people witnessed and built a following because of them, then the god Jesus spoke of cannot possibly the god other religions represent. They may be similar, but none will have the pure, unchanged claims of Jesus.now at this point what you do is debate how accurate these claims are and thats a whole other topic, but the claims of “all gods are the same god” is not well thought out.
The irony is that people want proof of Him before they believe, but that proof comes from knowing Him as a person. Unless your heart is open to it, you will not want to seek it. They will however clearly call bias. It really ends up being a choice in the end, and once you choose Him, he reveals himself to you or hides from you if you choose the opposite. Thats the main issue. You cannot know proof of things outside the material. The need of scientific proof is doomed to fail from the start.
@@pepethunderAll gods are the same god is the theory that humans all worshipped God but Judeism and Christianity were the only real ones that has The Truth installed with it. Perhaps all religions worship God Himself, but its false because it didnt come from God Himself and His Word.
I love this channel so much, not only has it given me more understanding and logic about God, but I also get to look at the perspectives of other people. Especially since I was born a kingdom kid, I never questioned the existence of God growing up but seeing other people question it and you being able to answer all their questions clearly and logically has enabled me to be more confident in sharing my faith and reaching out to other people as I have an idea in mind of what to say 1 Peter 3:15 NIV “But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect”
I love this kid. All the points he's making I wrestled with when I was his age. Perhaps the biggest difference between his stance on it and mine at that age is when I figured out that no one could prove anything absolutely, I had to chuckle and know that there simply had to be a very big sense of humor behind it all. And from long , close, careful observation one can totally see that nature has no sense of humor. Only a personality does. This made me smile and reminisce on all the philosophical arguments and debates that I'd have with myself and God when I was young. And as painful as being older is, I'm so grateful not to be young anymore. 😊
@@wabalubadubdubdub It warms my heart that someone out there actually takes away some sliver of wisdom from the pain I've been through. That's all any sane human can ask for. Keep searching for the truth! Keep thinking and wondering deeply! Godspeed!
Keep spreading the Word guys ❤ you are doing a great job💪 I'm so thankful that street missionaries shared the Gospel to me a few years ago.. my life has changed so much and if not i would have been dead today.. So keep doing the Lord's work 💪🤩♥️
I was told to fear the lord as a kid by my great grandfather, I was probably around 10yrs old. It’s weird what memories stick and always come around every so often. I’ve grappled with that memory and the meaning/context for over 3 decades because it came from him. He was born in 1898 and lived until 2001 and I nvr fully understood him but I always respected him
@@inertiaspinner555 what a blessing for your great grandpa to shared the Word for you. Have a blessed weekend brother! “Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it.” Proverbs 22:6 NKJV
I love this guy! It’s so difficult to have honest respectful discussions about religion, spirituality, God and Jesus these days. Almost no one else has any answers, or questions, since COVID. Even at the churches that guided me before the pandemic, I can’t seem to find helpful preaching anymore. Cliff is one of the very few things I find when I seek these days. It’s like water in a desert.
I feel for that first kid.. I know myself what it's like to get so caught up in some really head-in-the-clouds ways of thinking and I appreciate how Cliffe is able to ground conversations and stress reality and sanity in the face of lofty metaphysical ideas run amok. that's the problem, it's so easy in our arrogance (especially in our youth) to think we've cracked some kind of secret in the fabric of the universe because we had a mind-altering experience with some drug and have been researching stuff like meditation/remote viewing on the internet. the thing is that the guy had obviously done a lot of research into something that really happened (project gateway) and was passionate about it. it's a mistake to dismiss it all as nonsense and a joke.. it's really not. whether it's a govt sanctioned program or not, opening your mind to the spirit realm and trying to access power and knowledge in that way is dangerous and only leads to harm and insanity.. it's basically witchcraft in the biblical sense and God tells us to stay away from it for a good reason. Thankfully all of the TRUE treasures of wisdom and knowledge are found in Jesus Christ, who offers them freely and openly
Well said. Think most younger people and people in their mid-20s should give this a good read, speaking from an upper-20s guy who has seen the pitfalls of this mindset in other older people when I was a bit younger and also a lesser version of it in myself more recently. This tends to happen once you get a sense of the real world. Working full-time for a long period of time and starting to get a better sense of the world can really start to weigh on you and make you lose your footing at times. Especially if you have had to struggle through very uncertain, stressful times without a good support system to fall back on. It's been a tough few years for most. And you start to realize your future is all on you. It's easy to get lost in the madness and try to make sense of everything. You will never find an answer in the chaos, it'll just leave you spinning in circles trying to find the end, which there is no end of. Time really is a flat circle, everything that has happened will happen again, and again. At least that's what I'm inclined to believe at this point. And just like time, God is eternal. I've been on a faith journey recently and I'm starting to believe the only way out of the palpable chaos most people can feel is to live under God's will and Jesus' teachings. Love is the only way.
@@sevenbridges24 If your compass is pointed toward Jesus, (the REAL Jesus) you can't go wrong. I know what it's like also to feel history repeating or caught in cycles but just know that our God is the God of miracles. NOTHING is too hard or impossible for God.. He's the God above all gods. Everything is under his sovereign hand, and He has a flair I've found for working elegantly and often dramatically amidst the chaos. There's far more power in prayer than people understand.. I reached a really low point not long ago and went to God in prayer but with more reverence and humility ..and trust than in my past, and the ways that He's shown himself and worked in my life since then have been extraordinary. Never stop praying! He is faithful, even when we are faithless. He will guide you out of the chaos if you keep trusting in Him. I'll pray for you too
@sevenbridges24 I've been there too, man. First step, I'd say is to really make Jesus your Lord and Saviour. There really is nothing better to put your trust in, believe me I looked high and low and only wound up desperate for answers, until I found him. It's not complicated, you can say a simple prayer. Ask him to reveal himself to you tangibly in your life. Ask him to be Lord over your life to forgive you and guide you through this life to the next. He is the only one who can do that. That's what the atonement was for. It literally means to be reconciled, made at-one with God through the price Jesus paid for your sins. If you want to be forgiven and know your salvation is secured, from an earnest, humbleness of heart ask him to. And ask him to help you to follow him and he will send you "the helper", the Holy Spirit as he's promised to all who believe. It really changes everything, gives life new meaning, a new dimension of love and peace, joy and understanding, even through hard times. God bless you. Keep seeking Jesus. Read the word whether you can. Know that-He will never let you down. I can testify to that.☝️ He's never more than a prayer away. 🙏
All of you and Cliff are making the same mistake of thinking that guy also believes that God and Jesus are the same person. He actually even said he agrees that Jesus was a real person. But Cliff who believes Jesus is God assumes he means that both God and Jesus were invented. Huge disconnect there. So he defended Jesus existence despite dude saying he believed he was a real person instead of defending the aspect of God in heaven being real which is what he was referring to.
@@Kishin_juniorChristians do not believe that Jesus was CREATED at the time of His birth. We believe that He is God, eternal, and that he chose to become incarnate, taking on human flesh to live a perfect sinless life and then to die, taking the punishment of our sins that we deserve on Himself. He then was resurrected, defeating the power of death and the grave, which is the punishment that we were given for our original sin. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it […] 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.” These passages are in the first chapter of John. The bible makes it very clear what we are to believe about Jesus’s eternal nature.
I'd LOVE to have opportunity one time to be present and possibly speak briefly with you at one of these type settings!! Your way of thinking through all these issues is superb and very respectful. I'm not saying hy any means you handle weakly some of the science based arguments for God, but so many these students want to use evolution as creation with no creator.... Point being: I've a MS in chemical engineering g w minors in biochemistry and polymer science, and I've worked R&D and prepared my collective education toward researching in pharmaceuticals. I see a large percent want to use "evolution is proven so we d9nt need god"....when it's not proven at all. I'd LLLLOOOOOVVVEEEE to be able to address them in dialogue by asking them how they think first life arose....which usually they have no idea though they "know" that it happened this way which is bad thinking. I know very well the chemistry of life and what it can and WONT DO, most general public havent been told truth of abiogenesis and how ridiculously impossible of an idea it is to think life arose on it's own. I love discussing these things because I know the chemistry and have studied abiogenesis and worked in R&D, and give the people the truth of it, and how overwhelming the scientific evidence is from the data that life COULD NOT HAVE just "happened" via random chemistry....chemistry doesnt work that way not counting breaking all the thermodynamic laws and where the information comes from etc etc.... Would there be any way sometime into the future Lords will were still breathing that something could be set up where I could join you one day at a campus and listen/interact with you that day in discussion, so if someone goes there to evo. Creation being "proven", i can show how the science of that actually shows how impossible it actually is, not supports the theory at all with details of the chemistry and why. Would you do something like this? I e watched these videos for years and itd be such an honor to be able to speak with you and just be there in person how you so near perfectly address these people exactly how they need on each individual's basis. Much respect to you brother for doing this....I'd love to be able to do a tiny part with you where it might offer someone something to think on that reveals truth to them about Jesus. Just one would make all the effort worth it. Someone please respond to me if this could he possible at some point down the road please. Thank you and god bless
Man I was just watching a video elsewhere from this channel and I just had to come here and say, I see the love in Cliffe, I see it. He loves the people he's talking to. And I enjoy watching his intelligence act in that love.
Not proved, but the guy who wrote the papers really believed in this. But the guy is talking about page 25, which CIA for some reason "forgot" and "never seemed to have received the page 25, although they have 24 and 26 (you can find this page easily by searching for it). This page have the explanation, why the author believes that to be God. BUT: I am not saying I believe that to be true though, but the author of the CIA document believes it to be true. The document is freely available on CIA's website, and have been since either 2001 or 2003. People just do not know about it somehow: www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf I can recommend the meditation the audioclips (The Gateway Experience audio files you use for the meditation) for relaxation purposes. EDIT: It is not done through REM sleep, as Stuart mentions. It is done by playing 2 different sounds in each ear with different hertz. This will make your brain try to find a "middle sounds", basically saying 114 hz - 100 hz = 4 hz is what your brain is left with, when trying to balance the hertz in your brain. When this is done, it creates some sort of synchonization between your left and right brain, that creates this kind of euphoria / relaxation. Kind regards, A fellow Christian, who once also was a freethinker.
Recently made a comment about Stewart that still abides but here Stewart excelled excellently proving his point and dissecting the argument that gentlemen made before his departure.. Stewart’s comment on religion and explaining what the concept of religion is, was great I definitely see the father like son … I’m nobody just an observer with perspective. Keep up the good work Amen
Look thank you for sharing scripture but if you really look at the King James version it's very reliable. It does not leave out verses that deal with the blood of Jesus. I thank God for this man who is willing to go to campuses and dialogue with these kids. Also professors that might be looking around. This guy is an excellent debater and I really would love to meet up and dialogue with him
Wow.. One can believe what some supposed CIA Agent said about God.. but struggle with what the Eye witnesses to christ said about him... I don't have that much fsith
Yep. And the reason why folks will cling to the former rather than the latter is because of one word, rebellion. In their wicked hearts, they run from Christ and embrace anything else that doesn’t convict them and take their attractive sin away.
I'd like to have told that kid "here is 100, now close your eyes and run as fast as you can face first through the tree", he woukd admit real quick that his "perception" is less important than reality.
This is what I came up with in regards to the “If I Don’t See It, It Doesn’t Exist” argument: Sir, if I were to blindfold you & tell you to walk toward that tree would you bump into it? Yes, you would because even though you can’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t real or doesn’t exist, same with blind people, do we see them walk through walls just because their blind? No, Because even though they can’t see anything the world around them still exists.
I use to think exactly like him, I dropped this way of thinking when I wanted to get closer to God, Jesus soon called me to start going to church and I answered the call, I now have a relationship with him and he is in my life everyday, I’ve been going to church for a year now and I’ve never felt closer to Jesus. Praise God, don’t give up on yourself or people like this! 💜
The more you procrastinate in terms of faith the greater feat you will have to achieve in the end; you can live a righteous life or you can die for a righteous cause; both are equally hard in different ways but still easier than living and dying for nothing;
NASA shirt kid is extremely intelligent and I don’t think he meant to be rude at all, I think he’s just searching and trying to make it make sense to his understanding. And that is good. Love these videos and hope to meet you guys one day bc boy do I have questions😭😭😭
Regurgitating something you literally just learned in a classroom does not make a person extremely intelligent, sorry honey lol. These people were probably more intelligent before they enrolled .
Brother tree is still there even if you're not looking at it, cuz even if you're not looking at it you can still reach out and touch it with your hand and feel that it's there even if you're not seeing it. Same thing with god, you can feel him in your spirit and do your spirit without physically seeing him.
11:00 No, that's called object permanence. It's a skill developed around the age of 2 where you realize that the world exists whether you're looking at it or not.
That first kid learned a bunch of big words and was blown away by them. Now he thinks he’s intelligent. Being told what to think vs learning how to think. Notice how he is talking to the crowd repeating arguments that are not on topic just something he memorized
I really love and admire this pastor who goes into college campuses to preach the truth. More power to him. Unfortunately, I wish he wouldn't be so anti-Christian-Nationalist. Thank God for the Christian Nationalists who founded our great nation -- Washington, Franklin, Rush. Many of the signers of the Constitution were Pastors. Without them we would not have the America we know. This God-breathed Constitution guarantees us "inalienable rights" that come from God and the FREEDOM to worship God apart from government intrusion. And if a Church displays an American flag at a meeting, it's NOT to distinguish American Christians from Christians the world over. It's to proclaim Christianity to our OWN COUNTRY. When Godly leaders lead America, the world prospers. So, why wouldn't we as Christians support those who defend our Judeo-Christian heritage and impact our society? There is no dichotomy in having a citizenship in heaven and one on earth. The Apostle Paul wisely used his Roman citizenship to advance the cause of freedom and the Kingdom of God. Why shouldn't we do likewise?
This kid reminds me a lot of myself. I was searching hard for truth and could never find anything conclusive or something that I could 100% believe in. I pray that he finds out about our Lord and Christ and is comforted by the all knowing God and the 100% truth in His word.
I had used the Gateway tapes and had an experience with the Holy Spirit, that led me to accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and saviour. I sounded very like the initial gentleman, where I had been practicing the occult and other meditations, that this mindset seems to come with those types of practices. Arrogance, selfish and intelligent sounding, but purely ignorant to the greater truth. The Bible has remained the only absolute truth throughout millennia, and I was doing nothing to deserve such grace and peace through his salvation. This is an important lesson in humbling oneself before God, so that you may know the truth, I can’t go a day without reading the Bible now, He has been so good to me, and I owe Him my life, for saving me from such ignorance of the truth. All the glory and honour belongs to Jesus 🙏🏻❤️🔥✝️
To this gentleman drilling his perception …. When it’s windy out you can’t see it, but it’s there, why because you have faith not seeing but knowing… same thing with God ❤
Let's remember as viewers and followers of Christ, we should be praying for these lost people. Also pray God sends truth seekers and soft hearts to every Christian. I pray we are bold and eager to tell the good news ❤ Lord please lead us. ✝️
*"The attributes of God are the qualities, elements and perfections which belong to Him. They belong to Him and are parts of His DIVINE NATURE - not that His whole Being consists of a combination of the same, but because they are the FORMS AND EXPRESSIONS of His Being which He has revealed to man.”* *"To know God as He has revealed Himself to man is truth of the highest order."*
@@jasonnoble7302 Remember when you were young and your parents told you something about life that you didn't believe? But then when you grew up you found out that it not only exists, but is true? This is your problem. You actually cannot experience God until you have grown up and put the puzzle pieces together to realize the truth. Let's take life insurance..... If Christianity is true, then you have to worry about hell. What would it hurt you to become a Christian? Like seriously, what actual harm would you receive by being a Christian? If it isn't true, then you haven't lost anything. But if it is true, then you took the life insurance. Why wouldn't you take such a step to protect yourself?
@@jasonnoble7302 everyone will know of Jesus, though not everyone puts their faith in Jesus. “But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” (Hebrews 11:6)
We value Him more, He's the desire of the nations (most just don't know it yet). Also we get revelation by revelation, bit by bit, so (I'm guessing) we don't get big heads (Knowlege puffs up)@@jasonnoble7302 But imagine a father with His child, playing hide and seek. The father hides behind the curtain, He leaves just His toes out. Even if the child cant find him, He starts crying or begs His Father to come out. The Fathers heart is moved to come out, because its His kid.
@@jasonnoble7302 So that only honest seekers find him-though he is not far from any one of us. It is why you are so lost. You're not a seeker at all, you're a cynic.
PRAY THAT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE IN ALL OF THESE VIDEOS AND THINGS AND THIS VIDEO AND THING AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE AND UA-camRS AND FAMOUS PEOPLE AND RICH PEOPLE AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE UA-cam CHANNELS AND THIS UA-cam CHANNEL AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLES FAMILIES AND FRIENDS REPENT AND FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST.✝✝✝
That arrogant young man is completely lost in Lala Land! He has no fixed position morally, physically, emotionally or spiritually; Probably one of the saddest positions in life to exist in! Actually he sounds like he has already been brainwashed by Scientologist philosophy and lies... so sad
Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior is always working! Tell me why I was listening to Luke 7: 18-34, pondering on the understanding of it and immediately after I watch the first five minutes of this video Cliff ends up explaining exactly what I needed to understand! 2:53 God is always working!
I totally see and understand how the young man is trying to fit in the non-duality philosophy into the argument. What best explains something this is that reality doesn't change, it is the instrument that changes. The snow is not orange it is the glasses that are orange and they taint reality.
24:48 That story is incredible a very good description of how people are like in hell, but sad that STILL these people do not want God. Helps me answer though, the fact of eternity punishment because that is lit what people want, they do not want God at all. The LORD is truly just.
Romans verse.. proclaiming themselves wise, they became fools, most people who say all religions are the same have never studied any contradictions between those different religious books
Amen!
Amen! I used to be pretty foolish myself
I have to admit there was a time when I thought like that. Deep down, I think I knew it was a foolish idea, but solipsism is dangerously attractive. Sadly, it's also very narcissistic - the most tragic kind of narcissism, too, like a dog perpetually chasing its tale. It's actually good Cliff showed the man enough respect to tell him when he was being ignorant.
That's what it takes to snap someone out of that kind of mental stronghold or stupor.
I agree, I got sucked into Christ consciousness too
@@tomprowsemusic4864 its okay, the devil is cunning and fools many people. I almost got sucked into it after knowing Christ. but the word is sown in my soul and heart now. the devil will still try to uproot it though. watch and pray
That young man is all over the place. Spiritualism, Philosophy, Conspiracy, Quantum physics, Self Worship...
Guy is clearly searching hard for the truth and connecting dots. He’s more of an original thinker then 98% of people. Trust me he will find Jesus if he keeps this search up.
Most young people are because they think they're more intelligent than they are at the age of 20
This is kids body language says a lot. He spends to much time trying to understand the hard mysteries of God. This kid probably lives in the matrix
@lljusttry I think you're right. My thinking was on the same track as the young man. I learned about anything I could get my hands on outside of mainstream religion, and one day the missing piece was revealed to me. Since accepting that Jesus is God everything has changed🎉
I pray the young man has ears to hear when the lord calls to him
@@Born_again1984 Usually no answer is good enough for people similar to him. God says all you have to do is believe. He knew that would be a big stretch for a lot of people but God made it simple for us who can observe and appreciate the proof of his existence.
I love it when somebody is asking him a question and you see him cooking, ready to deliver a perfect answer
*everyone backs up* relax guys let him cook he's fkn cooking
Cooking BS
@@vampirelawyer1 just like spaceball nerds. Worshipping one NAZI ss rocket scientist who went to the moon on TV.
@@vampirelawyer1 hint : he's wearing the NAZI shirt.
All of you and Cliff are making the same mistake of thinking that guy also believes that God and Jesus are the same person. He actually even said he agrees that Jesus was a real person. But Cliff who believes Jesus is God assumes he means that both God and Jesus were invented. Huge disconnect there. So he defended Jesus existence despite dude saying he believed he was a real person instead of defending the aspect of God in heaven being real which is what he was referring to.
To the guy expressing binary/nonbinary argument. He believes what he is saying as true. Absolute truth. He did what he accused Cliff of.
Right. It was a performative contradiction.
Is it possible this is brainwashing by our institutions? Aren’t they meant to be teaching higher thought and how to think for yourself instead of indoctrination?
All of you and Cliff are making the same mistake of thinking that guy also believes that God and Jesus are the same person. He actually even said he agrees that Jesus was a real person. But Cliff who believes Jesus is God assumes he means that both God and Jesus were invented. Huge disconnect there. So he defended Jesus existence despite dude saying he believed he was a real person instead of defending the aspect of God in heaven being real which is what he was referring to.
the end of the guy's argument I think really showed his true motives, he continues on to claim that consciousness is a trait of evolution, contradicting himself@@Kishin_junior
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Let us all pray deeply for that first lad who was so close yet so far. Please Lord, in Jesus name. Let there be intervention by the Holy Spirit.
It seems he likes to here himself talk and his thought process was on wanting to be right in His Truth instead of Finding Thee Truth
Amen
@@RuebenBell-dg5zp Yes, exactly. He wants to teach, but needs to learn.
Well put.
Amen...I would like to be your friend
Good grief there’s so much pseudo-intellectual gibberish on college campuses
God is the definition of simplicity, we humans seek to over complicate what we don't have too.
I know! Thing is, his concept works in a vacuum on its basic terms. what his idea fails to address however is the claims of Jesus. Ig Jesus is a historic figure and he made claims about himself, then gave those claims credibility by performing miracles that many people witnessed and built a following because of them, then the god Jesus spoke of cannot possibly the god other religions represent. They may be similar, but none will have the pure, unchanged claims of Jesus.now at this point what you do is debate how accurate these claims are and thats a whole other topic, but the claims of “all gods are the same god” is not well thought out.
The irony is that people want proof of Him before they believe, but that proof comes from knowing Him as a person. Unless your heart is open to it, you will not want to seek it. They will however clearly call bias. It really ends up being a choice in the end, and once you choose Him, he reveals himself to you or hides from you if you choose the opposite. Thats the main issue. You cannot know proof of things outside the material. The need of scientific proof is doomed to fail from the start.
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@@pepethunderAll gods are the same god is the theory that humans all worshipped God but Judeism and Christianity were the only real ones that has The Truth installed with it.
Perhaps all religions worship God Himself, but its false because it didnt come from God Himself and His Word.
I love this channel so much, not only has it given me more understanding and logic about God, but I also get to look at the perspectives of other people. Especially since I was born a kingdom kid, I never questioned the existence of God growing up but seeing other people question it and you being able to answer all their questions clearly and logically has enabled me to be more confident in sharing my faith and reaching out to other people as I have an idea in mind of what to say
1 Peter 3:15 NIV
“But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect”
Christ is not lord
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So glad to see that African brother with his redhead friend again. God bless them
True, maybe they will be husband and wife one day :)
you've seen them before??
@@bryant475 what a weird thing to say. Are you ok?
I love this kid. All the points he's making I wrestled with when I was his age.
Perhaps the biggest difference between his stance on it and mine at that age is when I figured out that no one could prove anything absolutely, I had to chuckle and know that there simply had to be a very big sense of humor behind it all. And from long , close, careful observation one can totally see that nature has no sense of humor. Only a personality does.
This made me smile and reminisce on all the philosophical arguments and debates that I'd have with myself and God when I was young. And as painful as being older is, I'm so grateful not to be young anymore. 😊
thats a great point i never thougth of. if theres humor there has to be someone to think of it lol
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It warms my heart that someone out there actually takes away some sliver of wisdom from the pain I've been through. That's all any sane human can ask for.
Keep searching for the truth! Keep thinking and wondering deeply!
Godspeed!
@@captainfantastic7843 I certainly will
Godspeed!!
The kid is a doofus
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No one asked you troll.
this guy lives in lalaland. . excellent job Cliffe and Stuart, praise God
Come to University of Tennessee Knoxville and spread the light and the gospel!! 🙌🙌
Sounds like spreading lies
i always enjoy learning how to deal with difficult questions as Cliffe and Stuart do. I wish I could raise my son as them. ❤❤
Keep spreading the Word guys ❤ you are doing a great job💪
I'm so thankful that street missionaries shared the Gospel to me a few years ago.. my life has changed so much and if not i would have been dead today..
So keep doing the Lord's work 💪🤩♥️
"Great!" Amen. 🙏's
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Without it it’s all foolishness!
I was told to fear the lord as a kid by my great grandfather, I was probably around 10yrs old. It’s weird what memories stick and always come around every so often. I’ve grappled with that memory and the meaning/context for over 3 decades because it came from him. He was born in 1898 and lived until 2001 and I nvr fully understood him but I always respected him
@@inertiaspinner555 what a blessing for your great grandpa to shared the Word for you. Have a blessed weekend brother!
“Train up a child in the way he should go, And when he is old he will not depart from it.”
Proverbs 22:6 NKJV
@@inertiaspinner555 _The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom_
That kids "perception" is bonkers! 🙃😉
It's another Bonnie! 🤣🤣🤣 😭
"That is scary!" 😜
It’s the illuminist ( humanist) ideology ultimately luciferian
I love this guy! It’s so difficult to have honest respectful discussions about religion, spirituality, God and Jesus these days. Almost no one else has any answers, or questions, since COVID. Even at the churches that guided me before the pandemic, I can’t seem to find helpful preaching anymore. Cliff is one of the very few things I find when I seek these days. It’s like water in a desert.
Without lies atheism dies
Because of lies atheism dies.
It is interesting that no one can possibly be a true Atheist by definition.
@@statutesofthelord How so?
@@Viod753 Vlod, do you claim to be an Atheist?
@@statutesofthelord Yes.
I feel for that first kid.. I know myself what it's like to get so caught up in some really head-in-the-clouds ways of thinking and I appreciate how Cliffe is able to ground conversations and stress reality and sanity in the face of lofty metaphysical ideas run amok. that's the problem, it's so easy in our arrogance (especially in our youth) to think we've cracked some kind of secret in the fabric of the universe because we had a mind-altering experience with some drug and have been researching stuff like meditation/remote viewing on the internet. the thing is that the guy had obviously done a lot of research into something that really happened (project gateway) and was passionate about it. it's a mistake to dismiss it all as nonsense and a joke.. it's really not. whether it's a govt sanctioned program or not, opening your mind to the spirit realm and trying to access power and knowledge in that way is dangerous and only leads to harm and insanity.. it's basically witchcraft in the biblical sense and God tells us to stay away from it for a good reason. Thankfully all of the TRUE treasures of wisdom and knowledge are found in Jesus Christ, who offers them freely and openly
Well said.
Think most younger people and people in their mid-20s should give this a good read, speaking from an upper-20s guy who has seen the pitfalls of this mindset in other older people when I was a bit younger and also a lesser version of it in myself more recently. This tends to happen once you get a sense of the real world. Working full-time for a long period of time and starting to get a better sense of the world can really start to weigh on you and make you lose your footing at times. Especially if you have had to struggle through very uncertain, stressful times without a good support system to fall back on. It's been a tough few years for most.
And you start to realize your future is all on you. It's easy to get lost in the madness and try to make sense of everything. You will never find an answer in the chaos, it'll just leave you spinning in circles trying to find the end, which there is no end of. Time really is a flat circle, everything that has happened will happen again, and again. At least that's what I'm inclined to believe at this point.
And just like time, God is eternal. I've been on a faith journey recently and I'm starting to believe the only way out of the palpable chaos most people can feel is to live under God's will and Jesus' teachings. Love is the only way.
@@sevenbridges24 If your compass is pointed toward Jesus, (the REAL Jesus) you can't go wrong. I know what it's like also to feel history repeating or caught in cycles but just know that our God is the God of miracles. NOTHING is too hard or impossible for God.. He's the God above all gods. Everything is under his sovereign hand, and He has a flair I've found for working elegantly and often dramatically amidst the chaos. There's far more power in prayer than people understand.. I reached a really low point not long ago and went to God in prayer but with more reverence and humility ..and trust than in my past, and the ways that He's shown himself and worked in my life since then have been extraordinary. Never stop praying! He is faithful, even when we are faithless. He will guide you out of the chaos if you keep trusting in Him. I'll pray for you too
@sevenbridges24 I've been there too, man. First step, I'd say is to really make Jesus your Lord and Saviour. There really is nothing better to put your trust in, believe me I looked high and low and only wound up desperate for answers, until I found him. It's not complicated, you can say a simple prayer. Ask him to reveal himself to you tangibly in your life. Ask him to be Lord over your life to forgive you and guide you through this life to the next.
He is the only one who can do that. That's what the atonement was for. It literally means to be reconciled, made at-one with God through the price Jesus paid for your sins.
If you want to be forgiven and know your salvation is secured, from an earnest, humbleness of heart ask him to.
And ask him to help you to follow him and he will send you "the helper", the Holy Spirit as he's promised to all who believe.
It really changes everything, gives life new meaning, a new dimension of love and peace, joy and understanding, even through hard times.
God bless you.
Keep seeking Jesus. Read the word whether you can. Know that-He will never let you down.
I can testify to that.☝️
He's never more than a prayer away. 🙏
*Whenever
So we'll said 👏🏿✝️
_"I told you that you would die in your sins, for unless you believe that I am he you will die in your sins."_
*JOHN 8:24*
My guy thinks we’re in a video game that needs us to look in a direction to render it in, lol what?
Student: Prove to me that your hand exists.
Cliff: SLAP!
Exactly what I thought lol. You can simply close your eyes and walk, then get hit by that "supposed tree"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’ve watched hundreds of these and this might be my favorite
Love seeing more of Stuart! Hearing some new perspectives from Cliffe which is stimulating!
This is what happens when you're think you're really philosophical and you've never had your ideas challenged.
Bonnie! (Although, Bonnie has been challenged, but he doesn't care!)
All of you and Cliff are making the same mistake of thinking that guy also believes that God and Jesus are the same person. He actually even said he agrees that Jesus was a real person. But Cliff who believes Jesus is God assumes he means that both God and Jesus were invented. Huge disconnect there. So he defended Jesus existence despite dude saying he believed he was a real person instead of defending the aspect of God in heaven being real which is what he was referring to.
@@Kishin_juniorChristians do not believe that Jesus was CREATED at the time of His birth. We believe that He is God, eternal, and that he chose to become incarnate, taking on human flesh to live a perfect sinless life and then to die, taking the punishment of our sins that we deserve on Himself. He then was resurrected, defeating the power of death and the grave, which is the punishment that we were given for our original sin.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it […] 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.”
These passages are in the first chapter of John. The bible makes it very clear what we are to believe about Jesus’s eternal nature.
thats what happens when you go look at all kinds of things and dont know where you are at and what to believe
1:59 when Cliffe says “the CIA did?!” That made me chuckle 😂
Cliffe I just found your UA-cam - but every time I see you on Tik Tok or IG, you are bringing straight HEAT!!! Keep up the good fight
2:09 Stuart doing his best Office Impression lol
I'd LOVE to have opportunity one time to be present and possibly speak briefly with you at one of these type settings!! Your way of thinking through all these issues is superb and very respectful. I'm not saying hy any means you handle weakly some of the science based arguments for God, but so many these students want to use evolution as creation with no creator....
Point being: I've a MS in chemical engineering g w minors in biochemistry and polymer science, and I've worked R&D and prepared my collective education toward researching in pharmaceuticals. I see a large percent want to use "evolution is proven so we d9nt need god"....when it's not proven at all. I'd LLLLOOOOOVVVEEEE to be able to address them in dialogue by asking them how they think first life arose....which usually they have no idea though they "know" that it happened this way which is bad thinking.
I know very well the chemistry of life and what it can and WONT DO, most general public havent been told truth of abiogenesis and how ridiculously impossible of an idea it is to think life arose on it's own. I love discussing these things because I know the chemistry and have studied abiogenesis and worked in R&D, and give the people the truth of it, and how overwhelming the scientific evidence is from the data that life COULD NOT HAVE just "happened" via random chemistry....chemistry doesnt work that way not counting breaking all the thermodynamic laws and where the information comes from etc etc....
Would there be any way sometime into the future Lords will were still breathing that something could be set up where I could join you one day at a campus and listen/interact with you that day in discussion, so if someone goes there to evo. Creation being "proven", i can show how the science of that actually shows how impossible it actually is, not supports the theory at all with details of the chemistry and why.
Would you do something like this? I e watched these videos for years and itd be such an honor to be able to speak with you and just be there in person how you so near perfectly address these people exactly how they need on each individual's basis. Much respect to you brother for doing this....I'd love to be able to do a tiny part with you where it might offer someone something to think on that reveals truth to them about Jesus. Just one would make all the effort worth it.
Someone please respond to me if this could he possible at some point down the road please. Thank you and god bless
Please come to Worcester Massachusetts and spread the gospel here at holy cross university🙏🏾🙏🏾
Man I was just watching a video elsewhere from this channel and I just had to come here and say, I see the love in Cliffe, I see it. He loves the people he's talking to. And I enjoy watching his intelligence act in that love.
Stewart's face when he said CIA proved it 😅
Actually looked at the camera
Dude that was so hilarious 😭 but I don’t know maybe they did maybe they didn’t
Not proved, but the guy who wrote the papers really believed in this. But the guy is talking about page 25, which CIA for some reason "forgot" and "never seemed to have received the page 25, although they have 24 and 26 (you can find this page easily by searching for it). This page have the explanation, why the author believes that to be God. BUT: I am not saying I believe that to be true though, but the author of the CIA document believes it to be true.
The document is freely available on CIA's website, and have been since either 2001 or 2003. People just do not know about it somehow: www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP96-00788R001700210016-5.pdf
I can recommend the meditation the audioclips (The Gateway Experience audio files you use for the meditation) for relaxation purposes.
EDIT: It is not done through REM sleep, as Stuart mentions. It is done by playing 2 different sounds in each ear with different hertz. This will make your brain try to find a "middle sounds", basically saying 114 hz - 100 hz = 4 hz is what your brain is left with, when trying to balance the hertz in your brain. When this is done, it creates some sort of synchonization between your left and right brain, that creates this kind of euphoria / relaxation.
Kind regards,
A fellow Christian, who once also was a freethinker.
Recently made a comment about Stewart that still abides but here Stewart excelled excellently proving his point and dissecting the argument that gentlemen made before his departure.. Stewart’s comment on religion and explaining what the concept of religion is, was great I definitely see the father like son … I’m nobody just an observer with perspective. Keep up the good work Amen
Oooo great one Stuart and cliffe
The reddit just seeping out of nasa kid is hilarious, but God bless him and his journey
Dude with the double-jointed knees is freaking me out!
Big rep and respect for saying your undecided on punishment after death, I’m in a similar thought.
That is so true Stuart. Yes,they all followed Jesus
I'm kinda new to cliff but he's definitely nailing it home.. a joy to listen to him and his son
Look thank you for sharing scripture but if you really look at the King James version it's very reliable. It does not leave out verses that deal with the blood of Jesus. I thank God for this man who is willing to go to campuses and dialogue with these kids. Also professors that might be looking around. This guy is an excellent debater and I really would love to meet up and dialogue with him
may god bless your family cliffe
I like the clear cutting sound of Cliffe’s articulation and well formulated arguments 🙏♥️stay strong ✝️
The rich man DID ask to come out… to tell his brothers about hell!
That’s baloney 💯 love ya cliff and love this channel. You and Stuart are awesome.
That guy was so entrenched in the Schrodinger's cat experiment on a wrong way
Wow.. One can believe what some supposed CIA Agent said about God.. but struggle with what the Eye witnesses to christ said about him...
I don't have that much fsith
Yep. And the reason why folks will cling to the former rather than the latter is because of one word, rebellion. In their wicked hearts, they run from Christ and embrace anything else that doesn’t convict them and take their attractive sin away.
Cliffe and Stuart Rock!
I'd like to have told that kid "here is 100, now close your eyes and run as fast as you can face first through the tree", he woukd admit real quick that his "perception" is less important than reality.
This is what I came up with in regards to the “If I Don’t See It, It Doesn’t Exist” argument: Sir, if I were to blindfold you & tell you to walk toward that tree would you bump into it? Yes, you would because even though you can’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t real or doesn’t exist, same with blind people, do we see them walk through walls just because their blind? No, Because even though they can’t see anything the world around them still exists.
I love how aggressively respectful this was. It was almost impossible to have such an intellectual conversation I feel like
Hi Cliffe, God bless you sir. I'm trying, but wish I could love and commit myself to God like this😢.
Matthew 11:29
Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
I use to think exactly like him, I dropped this way of thinking when I wanted to get closer to God, Jesus soon called me to start going to church and I answered the call, I now have a relationship with him and he is in my life everyday, I’ve been going to church for a year now and I’ve never felt closer to Jesus. Praise God, don’t give up on yourself or people like this! 💜
Awesome
Stuart!! 🤯
This kid is a perfect example of the average philosophy student- endlessly thinking themselves in circles
*I think he was autistic. He had odd mannerisms and spoke a little strange also.*
The more you procrastinate in terms of faith the greater feat you will have to achieve in the end; you can live a righteous life or you can die for a righteous cause; both are equally hard in different ways but still easier than living and dying for nothing;
I would absolutely love the opportunity to have a conversation with him.
NASA shirt kid is extremely intelligent and I don’t think he meant to be rude at all, I think he’s just searching and trying to make it make sense to his understanding. And that is good. Love these videos and hope to meet you guys one day bc boy do I have questions😭😭😭
Regurgitating something you literally just learned in a classroom does not make a person extremely intelligent, sorry honey lol.
These people were probably more intelligent before they enrolled .
I tried the gateway experience for a month or 2 and started believing in god after it
This ought to be good...
I really dislike it when they walk away without listening to the answer to their claim. Very disrecpectful, they should teach that in school..
Brother tree is still there even if you're not looking at it, cuz even if you're not looking at it you can still reach out and touch it with your hand and feel that it's there even if you're not seeing it.
Same thing with god, you can feel him in your spirit and do your spirit without physically seeing him.
11:00
No, that's called object permanence. It's a skill developed around the age of 2 where you realize that the world exists whether you're looking at it or not.
That first kid learned a bunch of big words and was blown away by them. Now he thinks he’s intelligent. Being told what to think vs learning how to think. Notice how he is talking to the crowd repeating arguments that are not on topic just something he memorized
That's college for ya!
I really love and admire this pastor who goes into college campuses to preach the truth. More power to him.
Unfortunately, I wish he wouldn't be so anti-Christian-Nationalist.
Thank God for the Christian Nationalists who founded our great nation -- Washington, Franklin, Rush. Many of the signers of the Constitution were Pastors. Without them we would not have the America we know. This God-breathed Constitution guarantees us "inalienable rights" that come from God and the FREEDOM to worship God apart from government intrusion.
And if a Church displays an American flag at a meeting, it's NOT to distinguish American Christians from Christians the world over. It's to proclaim Christianity to our OWN COUNTRY. When Godly leaders lead America, the world prospers. So, why wouldn't we as Christians support those who defend our Judeo-Christian heritage and impact our society?
There is no dichotomy in having a citizenship in heaven and one on earth. The Apostle Paul wisely used his Roman citizenship to advance the cause of freedom and the Kingdom of God. Why shouldn't we do likewise?
When you eat of The tree of knowledge versus the tree of Life
Right, one might argue that knowledge is sin. The more we know the more we sin.
Out of all the students he talks to , you have to respect this young man. He stood his ground and was very respectful. I
Great arguments guys, I enjoyed this vid!!
Respectfully Debate *
2:09 right here Stuart looks at the camera and smiles, almost like “oh this is gone be a good one” 😂
Hey Cliffe and I share the same birthday! 😃. Although there is still a 30 or so year difference…. That’s really neat.
0:03 there is like one of these dudes at every school
This kid reminds me a lot of myself. I was searching hard for truth and could never find anything conclusive or something that I could 100% believe in. I pray that he finds out about our Lord and Christ and is comforted by the all knowing God and the 100% truth in His word.
So much pride in one person.
I had used the Gateway tapes and had an experience with the Holy Spirit, that led me to accepting Jesus Christ as my Lord and saviour.
I sounded very like the initial gentleman, where I had been practicing the occult and other meditations, that this mindset seems to come with those types of practices. Arrogance, selfish and intelligent sounding, but purely ignorant to the greater truth.
The Bible has remained the only absolute truth throughout millennia, and I was doing nothing to deserve such grace and peace through his salvation.
This is an important lesson in humbling oneself before God, so that you may know the truth, I can’t go a day without reading the Bible now, He has been so good to me, and I owe Him my life, for saving me from such ignorance of the truth.
All the glory and honour belongs to Jesus 🙏🏻❤️🔥✝️
To this gentleman drilling his perception …. When it’s windy out you can’t see it, but it’s there, why because you have faith not seeing but knowing… same thing with God ❤
Let's remember as viewers and followers of Christ, we should be praying for these lost people. Also pray God sends truth seekers and soft hearts to every Christian. I pray we are bold and eager to tell the good news ❤
Lord please lead us. ✝️
Kid left before he could take his last L
I see the Jehovah’s Witnesses in the background, I hope a seed flew over their way.
Galatians 1:8
Love it
11:08 “yes it is the trees right there” the sequence of back on for the that lead to this had me in stitches 😂
*"The attributes of God are the qualities, elements and perfections which belong to Him. They belong to Him and are parts of His DIVINE NATURE - not that His whole Being consists of a combination of the same, but because they are the FORMS AND EXPRESSIONS of His Being which He has revealed to man.”*
*"To know God as He has revealed Himself to man is truth of the highest order."*
I hope you guys come to Idaho!!!!
Prove your hand exists... How about this punch to the mouth... Does that convince you that my hand exists lol
Atheism makes people think they can think.
The loudly profess what profound thinkers they are-and then demonstrate the opposite.
"Looking at something changes it".😅 I wish.
maybe my bank account is full when I'm not looking and it then when I check it reality hits and the money finds better places to be. 😂
This guy learned just a little bit of quantum physics and doesn't know what the heck to do with it.
I love this channel
Cliffes' Birthdays coming up... Happy birthday!🫡
The part this man is missing is Jesus. Once he finds Jesus, he will find God.
Why does Jesus play hide and seek ?
@@jasonnoble7302 Remember when you were young and your parents told you something about life that you didn't believe? But then when you grew up you found out that it not only exists, but is true?
This is your problem. You actually cannot experience God until you have grown up and put the puzzle pieces together to realize the truth.
Let's take life insurance..... If Christianity is true, then you have to worry about hell. What would it hurt you to become a Christian? Like seriously, what actual harm would you receive by being a Christian? If it isn't true, then you haven't lost anything. But if it is true, then you took the life insurance. Why wouldn't you take such a step to protect yourself?
@@jasonnoble7302 everyone will know of Jesus, though not everyone puts their faith in Jesus.
“But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that cometh to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.” (Hebrews 11:6)
We value Him more, He's the desire of the nations (most just don't know it yet). Also we get revelation by revelation, bit by bit, so (I'm guessing) we don't get big heads (Knowlege puffs up)@@jasonnoble7302 But imagine a father with His child, playing hide and seek. The father hides behind the curtain, He leaves just His toes out. Even if the child cant find him, He starts crying or begs His Father to come out. The Fathers heart is moved to come out, because its His kid.
@@jasonnoble7302
So that only honest seekers find him-though he is not far from any one of us. It is why you are so lost. You're not a seeker at all, you're a cynic.
PRAY THAT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE IN ALL OF THESE VIDEOS AND THINGS AND THIS VIDEO AND THING AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE AND UA-camRS AND FAMOUS PEOPLE AND RICH PEOPLE AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE UA-cam CHANNELS AND THIS UA-cam CHANNEL AND ALL OF THESE PEOPLES FAMILIES AND FRIENDS REPENT AND FOLLOW JESUS CHRIST.✝✝✝
Blind people must be having a blast then They're in a creative world with no obstacles
The word sharper than a two edge sword. The word of GOD will stand forever.
That arrogant young man is completely lost in Lala Land! He has no fixed position morally, physically, emotionally or spiritually; Probably one of the saddest positions in life to exist in! Actually he sounds like he has already been brainwashed by Scientologist philosophy and lies... so sad
Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior is always working!
Tell me why I was listening to Luke 7: 18-34, pondering on the understanding of it and immediately after I watch the first five minutes of this video Cliff ends up explaining exactly what I needed to understand! 2:53
God is always working!
It seems like those who always strive for proof, have little or no value for faith. They don't understand how important it is.
This a Christian version of the bar scene in Good Will Hunting!😂
I totally see and understand how the young man is trying to fit in the non-duality philosophy into the argument. What best explains something this is that reality doesn't change, it is the instrument that changes. The snow is not orange it is the glasses that are orange and they taint reality.
24:48 That story is incredible a very good description of how people are like in hell, but sad that STILL these people do not want God. Helps me answer though, the fact of eternity punishment because that is lit what people want, they do not want God at all. The LORD is truly just.
Wow!
That kid is lost. Our colleges are doing a terrible job.