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  • @majorkill
    @majorkill  Рік тому +585

    Sometimes the truth hurts, but you gotta tell it regardless.
    Something that doesn't hurt is the Launch of the Major Minis, chuck us your email here : majorminis.com.au/
    Or beat le meat here : www.patreon.com/majorkill

    • @THCthehempcloud
      @THCthehempcloud Рік тому +10

      Fam, you’re outta control. Fulgrim isn’t the worst. Konrad Curze is. Fulgrim is the most human of all the primarchs and therefore the most relatable. KC is just a psycho. Future seeing Jeff Dahmer in Power Armor.

    • @stephenbarrett8861
      @stephenbarrett8861 Рік тому

      @@THCthehempcloud Curze was a psycho and still better than Fulgrim.

    • @Jefferu_Nintendomoto
      @Jefferu_Nintendomoto Рік тому +8

      You could do a series on why all the Primarchs (or at least the traitors) are the worst.

    • @THCthehempcloud
      @THCthehempcloud Рік тому +4

      @@Jefferu_Nintendomoto that’s a great idea!!!

    • @znalniaskas
      @znalniaskas Рік тому +1

      Corpse worshipper detected, opinion rejected!

  • @realwaifus5514
    @realwaifus5514 Рік тому +802

    I love how Majorkill’s perspective on Fulgrim and Angron completely flipped to recognise that Angron was tragic because he was fucked from the beginning and Fulgrim was pathetic because he had every reason to not fall.

  • @nobleman9393
    @nobleman9393 Рік тому +419

    "Never perfect. Perfection goal that changes. Never stops moving. Can chase, cannot catch" - Abathur

    • @Bellephus
      @Bellephus Рік тому +2

      Fulgrim was always perfect.

    • @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
      @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Рік тому +23

      what an awesome quote!

    • @beardfistthegoldenone7273
      @beardfistthegoldenone7273 Рік тому +18

      Didn't know Aba was a philosopher as well as a monstrous abomination.

    • @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447
      @slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Рік тому +18

      @@beardfistthegoldenone7273 it's one of his lines from early in the HOTS campaign

    • @marthlink5015
      @marthlink5015 Рік тому +7

      Abathur would be more terrifying than Fabius Bile. D: he also gives absolutely no fucks about his experiments, finds humans disgusting AF, and hates proto-zerg XD

  • @nightlordnorris4446
    @nightlordnorris4446 Рік тому +503

    To be honest I always thought it was kinda funny that Fulgrim strove for perfection because after looking at Sanguinius, I would honestly be like "Shit he got there first." Sanguinius is a literal angel for the Emperor...who sometimes requires blood, but still. Even the Khan loved that man

    • @jackmesrel4933
      @jackmesrel4933 Рік тому +71

      Eh, he had his moments of weakness, like being insecure about the issues his BA had with the whole Red Thirst, and a bit of selfdoubt cus his wings, while cool af, still meant that he was a mutant, so he definetly wasn't perfect, but that only makes him more likable tbh.

    • @nightlordnorris4446
      @nightlordnorris4446 Рік тому +49

      @@jackmesrel4933 oh, for sure! I agree with you, there. To be honest my biggest concern for the BA was if they or the Space Wolves or the Thousand Suns (or all of them) would have been cast aside, due to their mutations and gene taints.
      I just think it's funny how the Blood Angels actually grasped the Philosophy Fulgrim was trying to teach: "Embrace imperfection to be perfect."
      Blood angels could succumb any second the the thirst, but are still seen as Angelic figures of hope and divine assurance, whereas the Emperor's Children is so wrapped up on telling on each other, ranking up, and culling planets in a month for show..that to everyone else, they are unlikable, spoiled brats. I think that kind of speaks volumes as to how imperfect Fulgrim truly was, but didn't want to believe himself.

    • @ChaplainPhantasm
      @ChaplainPhantasm Рік тому +14

      Well...Doesn't the Khan appreciate most of his brothers? While, of course, being pretty overlooked by them as well.

    • @Frenchtoastedfruitloops
      @Frenchtoastedfruitloops Рік тому +16

      @@ChaplainPhantasm Not so much over looked as much as he is just a massive loner since Horus and his other 2 unamed brothers turned/died. Well all appreciated, none of his loyal brothers are all that close to him. All the brothers kinda had their friend groups lol.

    • @JohnDoe-zl6qw
      @JohnDoe-zl6qw Рік тому +31

      @@ChaplainPhantasm _"Even his brother Primarchs understand little of him. His prowess with the blade earns him their respect even as his waywardness causes them concern. Guilliman has never trusted him. Russ is exasperated by him. Lorgar despises him for an untutored savage. Only Horus sees him for what he truly is. They are kindred souls, those two: warrior archetypes, bound by shared codes of martial honour and impatient with the heavy fetters of empire."_
      _- Scars by Chris Wraight_
      _"Of all of his brothers, the Khagan found common cause with but a handful. Of these the closest was Magnus the Red of Prospero, for he was also an outcast in the small society of their peers and a man of integrity and brusque honesty. Those few records of the two often note this friendship between two otherwise isolated Primarchs. Horus, who appreciated talent above appearances, also showed some favour to the Khagan, as did Sanguinius who had ever been a statesman and diplomat among his often quarrelsome brothers."_

  • @faroukshaaban1140
    @faroukshaaban1140 Рік тому +1795

    Fulgrim is that one guy in your family who loves to brag about how awesome he is, but is always stirring up shit at parties .

  • @Bezimienny15150
    @Bezimienny15150 Рік тому +1342

    I love how this channel has grown, I miss Timmy a little but it was a sacrifice I'm willing to take, keep it coming mate

    • @frostyfoster7267
      @frostyfoster7267 Рік тому +288

      Timmy was sacrificed to the ruinous powers in order to increase content quality

    • @virn333
      @virn333 Рік тому +175

      @@frostyfoster7267 Timmy is our malcador, always remember

    • @Boywonder543
      @Boywonder543 Рік тому +69

      Jokes aside what really happened to Timmy i always loved the many different ways majorkill tortured him 😢

    • @turtlehead8386
      @turtlehead8386 Рік тому +22

      It’s fine, I remember Timmy references in some of his vids when he was sacrificed.

    • @TheGhjgjgjgjgjg
      @TheGhjgjgjgjgjg Рік тому +64

      @@Boywonder543 He was an worthless abhuman and the emperor obliterated his soul just like horus

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 Рік тому +1084

    Roboute Guilliman: "If I had a bolter with two rounds left and I was in a room with Lorgar, Fulgrim and Erebus, *I'D SHOOT EREBUS TWICE!!!"*

    • @jeanpierrewesthof928
      @jeanpierrewesthof928 Рік тому +1

      And use that bolter to smash whats left of him

    • @infidelheretic923
      @infidelheretic923 Рік тому +117

      And then probably fight Fulgrim with your big ass gladius

    • @daydreamsp
      @daydreamsp Рік тому +16

      who is Erebus?

    • @Gasmask_R3X
      @Gasmask_R3X Рік тому

      ​@@daydreamspthe MF that basically started the ENTIRE heresy

    • @ramblingcollector3165
      @ramblingcollector3165 Рік тому +147

      @@daydreamsp Word Bearer Space Marine who is pretty much responsible for the entire Horus Heresy

  • @vontheunknown7982
    @vontheunknown7982 Рік тому +418

    Clonegrim would try everything to redeemed the emperor children and himself anyway he can if he ever escape from Traynz the infinite, what do you guys think?

    • @scorchedamber
      @scorchedamber Рік тому +67

      Clonegrim has the exactly same personality flaws though. He would just despair at his failure to redeem the present-day emperor's children and find some other way to screw up.

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 Рік тому +36

      Nah they too far gone bro. Especially those noise marines

    • @rexlumontad5644
      @rexlumontad5644 Рік тому +35

      @@scorchedamber Plus the Imperium would try to take him out and Slaanesh would want him corrupted or dispatched by Daemon Primarch Fulgrim

    • @_NutcasE_
      @_NutcasE_ Рік тому +46

      @@scorchedamber well I wouldnt consider being manipulated by a chaos sword to be a personality flaw clonegrim and og fulgrim everytime he got a fraction of clarity from the sword were both very disgusted with his actions and what fabulous bile was doing to the Emperors children.

    • @_NutcasE_
      @_NutcasE_ Рік тому +31

      It would tickle my narrativebone to see Corrupted EC being matched by clonegrim with new Primaris EC just to rub in that their sense of perfection was corrupted.

  • @carlothecoffeeguy3778
    @carlothecoffeeguy3778 Рік тому +41

    Primarchs are proof that a healthy relationship with your father is more helpful than any superpowers

  • @myself2noone
    @myself2noone Рік тому +92

    Probably inspired by Commodus at least in part. Born to the purple. Vain, Narcissistic saw himself as a grate warrior. Hell Rylanor might as well be straight out of the movie Gladiator. "And I will have my vengeance in this life or the next..."

    • @KyrieFortune
      @KyrieFortune Рік тому

      Can't wait for the bit where he's killed by being strangulated by a gladiator in the toilets (that's how the real Commodus died)

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Рік тому +87

    Really hope 10th edition gives us new Emperor's Children models and a new Daemon Prince Fulgrim model. I'd love to have a Slaanesh army!

  • @entropicflux8849
    @entropicflux8849 Рік тому +62

    a thing to remember when astartes fall to chaos: it's usually NOT about willpower, except when resisting a brute-force possession attempt or mind-to-mind contact. it's usually more about chaos exploiting a character trait the individual possesses: love of beauty seems like a virtue, but i bet it really gives you a penalty to your ability to resist certain forms of slaaneshi corruption. when we're talking about demi-gods, it's not their weakness that makes them fall but the strength of a lop-sided virtue.
    sarumon in LotR didn't become evil because his will was eroded by sauron. he became corrupt because his love of order and his desire to create and craft led him to believe he was worthy to control others. it's virtue that makes people fall, not sin.

    • @De_La_Evo
      @De_La_Evo Рік тому +8

      this
      It's honestly all about circumstance

    • @adeleinetheartist8267
      @adeleinetheartist8267 Рік тому +3

      Pride is a sin, not a virtue.

    • @eotwkdp
      @eotwkdp Рік тому +2

      @@adeleinetheartist8267Ehh a little bit of pride is good you have the balance it.

    • @adeleinetheartist8267
      @adeleinetheartist8267 Рік тому +1

      @@eotwkdp No! Actually, even a little bit of pride is bad. A little bit of pride is not good. Pride is not good. You do not believe that pride is a sin.

    • @eotwkdp
      @eotwkdp Рік тому +1

      @@adeleinetheartist8267 it’s better than sloth and a no will. Actually what is similar to pride like the pride you take in when cleaning your room to a spotless extent

  • @justinweber4977
    @justinweber4977 Рік тому +58

    My favorite description of Rylanor's last stand.
    "Imagine being such a shit person that your own allies are willing to die just to inconvenience you."

  • @lamule232
    @lamule232 Рік тому +40

    It's weird to hear this after Baldemort's video on him. We have 2 very different views of Fulgrim here :)

    • @SinisterMe
      @SinisterMe Рік тому +15

      Baldermort's is based off the lore of him, this is based off the books. The Writers really do a shit job with Fulgrim which just helps cement this generalized view of him.

    • @aguspuig6615
      @aguspuig6615 Рік тому +5

      Honestly baldemorts take is way richer and more interesting, but also more velibable, the books just make him dumb by default and flawed for no reason, and everyones flaws have a reason

    • @aguspuig6615
      @aguspuig6615 Рік тому +8

      @@SinisterMe THIS
      some writters treat him like a stereotype and just add more and more flaws without context. This needs more atention, Fulgrim to me has the most wasted potential out of all the primarchs

    • @jamesmacken9501
      @jamesmacken9501 Рік тому +1

      @@SinisterMe Nah, Baldermort clearly takes both into account. He references the books to much in his video to really say otherwise.

  • @thelion2751
    @thelion2751 Рік тому +14

    The funny thing is that the fulgrim we know in 40k is a retcom,in the first was fulgrim trapped in his body been controlled by the demon suffering seeing how his body kill ferrus etc but later out nowhere! GW make in a conversation make fulgrim said in short "yeah no that demon i killed I was the one doing everything",the worse primarch that would be mortarion because "i didn't kill my father? Well i am getting salty for years and just betray the imperium for nothing!"

    • @DarkSamael55
      @DarkSamael55 Рік тому +7

      Yeah the retcon kinda succed big time for me. It was much more tragic with him being a prisoner in his own body.

    • @holla6714
      @holla6714 Рік тому +1

      @@DarkSamael55 he tricked the deamon to get his body back and put the deamon in the painting right?

    • @justastandardplaguemarine4286
      @justastandardplaguemarine4286 Рік тому

      Mortarion turned traitor because he saw the emperor as the same as the tyrants that oppressed barbarus. His rocky meeting with the emperor didn’t help but it wasn’t THE reason he turned.

    • @thelion2751
      @thelion2751 Рік тому

      @@holla6714 no,it one of the books fulgrim said that he "kill off" the demon and all what happen like the death of ferrus it was him

    • @thelion2751
      @thelion2751 Рік тому

      @@justastandardplaguemarine4286 well corvus saw him as a tyrant too and didn't throw a fit about it

  • @riolufan2249
    @riolufan2249 Рік тому +29

    God, Laer lore makes me really want them as an army

  • @casketbase7750
    @casketbase7750 Рік тому +8

    The thumbnail of this video feels like the culmination of Majorkill's character arc.

  • @Jdne199311
    @Jdne199311 Рік тому +9

    We wouldnt know how exactly Angron would have been without the nails, we do know how Fulgrim was without the blade.

  • @RaVNeFLoK
    @RaVNeFLoK Рік тому +6

    He mortally wounded guilliman taking him out of the equation for 10.000 years- requiring plot armor and an alliance between elder and imperium to even get him back (which was a bloody miracle).
    He killed Ferrus manus in single combat resulting in the shattering of the iron hands forever after.
    That’s two primarchs ganked. Guilliman out when the empire needed him the most and the iron hands annulled as a cohesive force.
    What did angron do again?

    • @jamesmacken9501
      @jamesmacken9501 Рік тому +1

      Fulgrim started a rebellion against the ruling bodies of Chemos, a successful rebellion... unlike Angron

    • @SlaaneshM30
      @SlaaneshM30 Рік тому

      Didn't snort cocaine while sieging Terra.

    • @RaVNeFLoK
      @RaVNeFLoK Рік тому

      @@SlaaneshM30 Angrons total impact on the 40k setting is zero (rounded up).

  • @lolbots686
    @lolbots686 Рік тому +18

    As clonegrim came back,fabious looked to the clone
    "So,you escaped. Has the fool noticed?"
    "...i was willingly set free. But that aside i came for another reason."
    Fabious sneered,he could read the clone easly
    "You have something in mind for me."
    Fulgrim nodded
    "I do. And i require one of the greatest minds still sane in this hellhole to help."
    "What use would i be to you?"
    "....restarting the emporors children."
    Fabious looked at clonegrim,in geniune surprise
    "Your mad. The inperium wont take you back."
    "No. It wont. But i refuse to allow my legion to be the servants of that abomination. And besides...ive changed quite a lot i think."
    "...my answer is no,fulgrim. The emporors children can die for all i care. Its not like were lasting long then anyway"
    "Then tell me.....would this convince you?"
    Clonegrims hand glows in shimering blue fire,and with his sword,touched fabiouses pauldrons,the blue fire imolating him but...theres no pain. But warmth. Purity. Grief. Fabious felt something unknown to him for millenia. Life. Geniune,life.
    "What...did you do."
    "My power. I have learned,or rather rediscovered the ability to cleanse those within my presence,of there suffering, physical and spiritual."
    "...why me though? As i recalled i had performed many a brutal experiment."
    Fulgrim smiled.
    "Because without your knowledge,we would have been long gone. And besides. This request to help was not mine alone"
    Fabious was silent. Looking at his work,then to fulgrim,he nodded.
    ".....well then. Lets get started. But i have one condition."
    "Name it."
    "Promise me. Swear to me here and now that the creature in your flesh will die."
    Fulgrim put a hand to fabiouses pauldron
    "I swear to you,chief apothecary fabious bile. That creature will pay a trillion fold for what it did to poison us."

  • @baseupp12
    @baseupp12 Рік тому +9

    Day 18 of asking for a video on Perpetuals in Warhammer 40k and their current locations or status.

  • @guardsmenedwin6213
    @guardsmenedwin6213 Рік тому +6

    Part 2 for Urda.
    I will not stop lord Mayorkill.

  • @youknow_nothing
    @youknow_nothing Рік тому +13

    I like how you kind of redeemed Angron and Perturabo in previous videos, showing the good things of each one but Fulgrim is like "nah bro, he is to much of a asshole for that"
    I am happy for you Majorkill, i have been following your videos for the last year or so, so seeing that you got to grow that much is amazing! Greetings from Argentina!!

  • @Iceisnice1
    @Iceisnice1 Рік тому +11

    Usually I love Majorkill, but this might be the worst take on Fulgrim I've ever heard, and that's saying something. Every action Fulgrim took and every thought he ever had is being interpreted in the worst way possible, and then some.
    "Fulgrim is insecure." That doesn't make him a bad primarch. It makes him a relatable, more human primarch.
    "Fulgrim immediately knelt before the Emperor." Yeah. Just like Sanguinius did.
    "Byzas was pretty happy to join the Imperium." I'm sorry, what? Pandion, the declining ruler who was barely clinging on to power, was pretty happy to join the Imperium. Literally every other faction was not.
    "Fulgrim realized he dun goofed by not accepting the deal from the Sabezian Brotherhood." Correct. Again, that shows remorse. An ability to recognize his mistakes. Making a mistake and realizing it makes for a much more compelling character than one who never makes any mistakes.
    "Fulgrim was inefficient about the way he took Byzas." So he was rushing it by agreeing to the deadline of one month, but also too slow because he didn't display overwhelming force to encourage a quick surrender. Well, which one is it? Regardless, Fulgrim *did* take Byzas in a month, with only 6 space marines. He was vain, yes, but he was also immensely competent to accomplish such a feat.
    "Fulgrim was baited and nearly killed by a nuclear bomb due to his arrogance." While this is true, Fulgrim also dismantled said bomb by literally stabbing it to death. Which is metal af.
    "Fulgrim screwed up the Cleansing of Laeran." This might be the worst offender on this already impressive list. The Laer were indeed an incredibly advanced race that the Imperium thought were not worth fighting because it would take many years and at least 3 legions. Fulgrim did it in one month, with his one legion, which was still much smaller than most other legions at the time (11,000 marines), and he only lost 700 marines in doing so. 700 marines is no joke, but compared to the estimated casualties, Fulgrim's pursuit of the Laer campaign was unbelievably successful.
    "Fulgrim promoted Eidolon and Julius." Okay, yeah, I can't defend that.
    "Fulgrim promoted Fabius." - If you've just read the Palatine Phoenix, you'd see that at the time, Fabius wasn't quite the monster he later became, considering his interactions with the people of Byzas, including the mutants. He was eccentric, unsociable, a shut-in and a workaholic, but still the best person for the job of trying to cure the Emperor's Children's terminal cancer and their foremost apothecary. Who else was Fulgrim supposed to promote to Chief Apothecary? Furthermore, one of the reasons Fulgrim took Fabius on the expedition to Byzas was to encourage him to socialize more with his fellow legionaires. Basically to get out and see some sunlight. Which leads me to my next point:
    Fulgrim also cares about his sons. He was angry with himself for not being there for them while they were being, and I quote, "expended like bullets". He wonders how many he could have saved if he was found earlier. And that's not even going into the most famous excerpt from his primarch novel, which I'm sure many of you are familiar with, about how he wanted to lift everyone up, not just himself.
    My point is, Fulgrim was deeply flawed to be sure. But he is an interesting and very nuanced character, with many positive traits. And just like his greatest son, Rylanor, he deserves better than all of us. I highly recommend watching Baldermort's video on Fulgrim if you want to learn what he was truly all about.

    • @jamesmacken9501
      @jamesmacken9501 Рік тому +2

      Even promoting Julius and Eidolon can be excused, Eidolons biggest mess up was the Murder campaign that occured after his promotion and even then he twisted the truth when reporting back to Fulgrim to make himself look better. There isn't much of an issue with Julius, pre-corruption he was a bit of a book worm that sucked up to Fulgrim a bit too much

  • @vidgrod695
    @vidgrod695 Рік тому +2

    Pretty sweet to see your channel growing so much, good luck with the minis bud

  • @alfieingrouille1528
    @alfieingrouille1528 Рік тому +4

    Majorkill you should make a video how you would personally rewrite the horus heresy/primarchs

  • @PelinalDidNothingWrong
    @PelinalDidNothingWrong Рік тому +7

    Fulgrim is that one uncle we all have that just likes to start drama for fun

  • @blackjacklover99
    @blackjacklover99 Рік тому +4

    NOTICE!
    Since you made Seth‘s video about warp entities that aren’t aligned with chaos. I’d like to propose a video idea of my own. About what remains of and references to ‘our’ era and earlier things from earth in the time of 40K. That’s something I’ve been interested in for a long time.
    PS: Majorkill please tell me if you see this comment. So I know the idea is in your head.

  • @starlightglimmer3260
    @starlightglimmer3260 Рік тому

    Its nice to see you expanding your little hobby business im not really into 40k but gonna buy something to support you

  • @jumpstrart7
    @jumpstrart7 Рік тому +1

    I considered him an idiot for picking of the sword and weak for not forcing himself to put it down, so no skin off my bones.

  • @ashblaeds
    @ashblaeds Рік тому

    Congrats on the growth!

  • @JDogTBD
    @JDogTBD 4 місяці тому +1

    You have done the Phoenician dirty, he was a God amongst his fellows.

  • @isaachastings2550
    @isaachastings2550 Рік тому +5

    Cool video. You should do one about what kind of person you are based on what army you have.

  • @scrapinator8910
    @scrapinator8910 Рік тому

    Watching your channel go from short shit post videos to you having your own high quality mini production side hustle is pretty surreal. This ameritard is proud of your accomplishments.

  • @SirFailsalot91
    @SirFailsalot91 Рік тому +1

    The only disagreement I have is right at the end about Lion El'Jonson: in "Descent of Angels," he spent years within The Order building up brotherhood with his fellow knights on Caliban, even after they killed all the Great Beasts and then joined the Astartes; then as soon as he met The Emperor, Jonson told all the Calibanite Dark Angels to fuck off home and he went off crusading with his fellow Terrans, even his best friend Luther who he'd known for all his civilised life - no fucking wonder why the Fallen turned against the Lion, he left them all behind in favour of taking his Earth-born Astartes with him on the Great Crusade, as if all those years of brotherhood meant nothing.
    At least Angron was willing to die with his fellow slaves instead of joining the Imperium before The Emperor abducted him at the very moment before he could fight his slave masters, that's what brotherhood is about, not abandoning your "brothers in all things" just because you got invited to sit at the cool kids table like Jonson did.

  • @JohnnyFiction
    @JohnnyFiction Рік тому +1

    I can't wait for GW to release the FULGRIM clone from the gallery and make him a straight up loyalist

  • @PrincessAmi9756
    @PrincessAmi9756 Рік тому +9

    Isn't he the only chaos primarch with a full head of hair?

  • @scottberry1073
    @scottberry1073 Рік тому +1

    Video idea: How to fix (PRIMARCH). Like a video on how you would fix a primarch or their character to make them more interesting. Love the vids keep it up

  • @alistarofthevoid9624
    @alistarofthevoid9624 Рік тому

    Absolutely love the calendar my man well worth the wait

  • @Talmond
    @Talmond 9 місяців тому +1

    Rylanor: Silence idiot *Detonates Virus Bomb and convinces Traitor Astartes to be Loyalist again by being angry*

  • @trimeerious4349
    @trimeerious4349 Рік тому +1

    Majorkill , I'm sorry but we need the 3 custodes bros from TTS as models , all glistening and oily as they are supposed to be

  • @xTheIceKinGx
    @xTheIceKinGx Рік тому

    Dude I've been following your channel for years now and it really sounds like you're taking your career to the next level. Amazing work, love your content!

  • @doombeake8503
    @doombeake8503 Рік тому

    ay bro, congratulations on the business expansion. You've come a long way from where you started, keep up the amazing work

  • @hercules2342
    @hercules2342 Рік тому +26

    Can we get a video about all the first captain during the Horus Heresy?
    We got so many kool guys like Julius Kaesoron, Marius Gage, Jubal Khan, Jago Sevetarion, Kor Phaeron, Raldoron, Ahzek, Typhon, Artemis Numeon, Ezekiel Abaddon to name a few.

  • @YvraineSimp
    @YvraineSimp Рік тому

    really excited to see your growth bruve

  • @SuppahTenko
    @SuppahTenko Рік тому

    Angron got externally messed up, Fulgrim managed to mess himself up.

  • @dascoop6018
    @dascoop6018 Рік тому +2

    Congrats on the Expansion in Enterprises. Will your models do commissions or artistic suggestions?

  • @vicentevillalobos7715
    @vicentevillalobos7715 Рік тому +4

    HOW DARE YOU!!!!!

  • @josedaniel3394
    @josedaniel3394 Рік тому +1

    primach like fulgrim is why the black legion is so effective they dont suffer from the incompetence of their fathers

  • @stripeybag6977
    @stripeybag6977 Рік тому +1

    Hmm That Lord of the Blood mini reminds me of the rumors for 10th edition, I wonder how it will compare just like Majorkill's Space Elf Death Lord to it's counterpart.

  • @lunardeathblade2570
    @lunardeathblade2570 Рік тому +4

    For all the jokes about Angron, he is actually my favorite primarch, and I wish The Emporer would have showed up sooner so Angron wouldn't have had the Butcher's Nails implanted, and so he could have been the primarch he was always meant to be.

  • @jk3jk35
    @jk3jk35 8 днів тому

    Fulgrim was so vainglorious his legion's colours were gold and purple so that even the colour-blind would recognize him

  • @onederful6630
    @onederful6630 Рік тому

    Bro is making major moves ❤️ keep up the great work brother

  • @steelgreyed
    @steelgreyed Рік тому

    In the pursuit of perfection. Just remember "perfect fuck up" is an option.

  • @redlcn
    @redlcn Рік тому

    I wish to preemptively wish you congrats on achieving 400K subscribers. You're a hair's breath away! May it be 400k more!

  • @goshfather9024
    @goshfather9024 Рік тому

    Congrats on the new mini website super excited

  • @joeyk3134
    @joeyk3134 Рік тому +1

    It seems like what Fulgrim pretended to be was what Sanguinius actually was.

  • @DarthBane22
    @DarthBane22 Рік тому +1

    Would love to see a breakdown on Imperium Naval vessels. So many different classes.

  • @gabrielayiu303
    @gabrielayiu303 Рік тому +1

    Graham Mcneill had one way to writer the character, yes, Fulgrim wanted the validated of the sculptor but more the idea of his pursuit of perfection. Remember Ostian (sculptor with a shitty name) told him: the perfection doesn't existed. That's he was so angry not just becuase he didn't made the best sculpture.
    But then with "Fulgrim" Primarch series and "The Primarchs" the Horus Heresy series. Black Library need get more name to his books. Black library and GW threw away the idea of Gramah Mcneill about the slow descent of corruption, where Dorian gray/Fulgrim moved his moral limits, thanks to Lord Herny/Slaneesh, until there was no turning back. And even Lord Henry/slaneesh was impressed by how low he fell, and just made Frulgrim so selfish-prick instead.
    sorry for my bad english.

  • @hunterwaguespack3963
    @hunterwaguespack3963 Рік тому +2

    I don’t know I’ve always liked Falgren mostly for the same reason I like handsome jack also Fabius bile being one of my favorite Chaos characters

  • @venkelos6996
    @venkelos6996 Рік тому +7

    You know what; I like this. I'm not dating a better Fulgrim would have been better, but I feel the excesses in Fulgrim, and his Legion, make sense, in that they attracted Slaanesh's attention, and interest. Tzeentch didn't MAKE the Thousand Sons psychic powerhouses, or even just bad at resisting, and thus easy prey; that's who they already were, and so it might be strange to have the Thousand Sons, the World Eaters, and the Death Guard already possess their flaws, but just have Fulgrim "receive" his from the Laer Blade. While it might make him a less interesting character, I'm glad to see his pettiness, two-facedness, insecurity, and other flaws were already there, and well established, long before the mcguffin renowned for tanking him even appeared. It does make me wonder, though; what about Bile's "perfect" clone? If the clone was like Fulgrim, but without the Chaos taint...was it just like the Fulgrim we now heard about? He reportedly seemed more upstanding, decent, and remorseful for his actions, which this video's Fulgrim, even pre-Laer, apparently wasn't.

    • @lastsurvivingemothefox9797
      @lastsurvivingemothefox9797 Рік тому

      I don’t have the books on me at the moment but iirc he remembered everything the more he developed- and he was definitely remorseful- I’d have loved to see him out in the galaxy trying to fix his mistakes. Nothing humbles you more than getting your nose rubbed in your own mistakes. I doubt they will ever take him out of the gallery though. Big shame.

    • @lastsurvivingemothefox9797
      @lastsurvivingemothefox9797 Рік тому

      Also- they did point out multiple times in that book that he was STILL petulant and naive- that’s just who he is at his core in my opinion.

  • @bignelly9476
    @bignelly9476 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank the emperor his ass got humbled by Rylenor the chadest of dreadnaughts

    • @COCK-erel
      @COCK-erel 10 місяців тому

      chad in a box 😢

  • @arcuscotangens
    @arcuscotangens Рік тому

    8:17 So you're telling me there is still hope

  • @KingofAwesomness14
    @KingofAwesomness14 Рік тому

    i respect the work grind my dude, you keep earning those subscribers.

  • @alexanderglovett
    @alexanderglovett Рік тому

    I'm wrapping up the first fulgrim book now. From what I remember, Fabius begins his xeno experiments after the Laer blade is found--do I have these events out of order?

  • @drksideofthewal
    @drksideofthewal Рік тому +1

    Well, if that’s not a realistic depiction of what “perfectionism” does to you, I don’t know what is

  • @degeggy
    @degeggy Рік тому

    Really loving your mini range. Looking forward to seeing what you develop next and REALLY fucking hoping it's a Space Skeleton Cryptomancer...

  • @NemFX
    @NemFX Рік тому +4

    I always took Fulgrim to be the TRYING TOO HARD primarch. He always wanted to be the best, so he would do what he thought would be the best.
    He wants to lead from the front! .. he crashes his ship every time.
    That kinda Monkey Paw wish, you know? He wants to be the best, he thinks he knows how, he gets incredibly frustrated that someone else that's obviously imperfect somehow manages to do it better.
    I like Fulgrim. I wish we had more preheresy Fulgrim.
    .. I also choose to believe he's literal. "I want cover fire so thick I can walk on it." Ugh Fulgrim just walk on the ground, our ammunition budget is through the roof.
    ALSO THE LAER BLADE WASN'T THE ONLY DAEMON INFLUENCE, THE PAINTING DAEMON WAS LITERALLY SUCKING HIS SOUL OUT.

  • @TexasRy
    @TexasRy Рік тому

    Hey Major, not sure if you read all the comments or if this is the best place to ask this question? I am working through the Horus Heresy and digging the cool story lines. Just started the Eisenstein where Horus just bombed Istvan and a bunch of his Astartes and Nathaniel, Saul and others are heading back Terra, good shit. I think I have 10 more books to go before the end but thought I would ask what is the next series that follows up on this story line? Pretty new to WR but not sure how to navigate all the different books and assets? Thanks for your thoughts, preeesh!

  • @donaldthump6461
    @donaldthump6461 Рік тому

    Video idea: Loyalist chapters with traitor gene seeds

  • @Yeeeeeeesh
    @Yeeeeeeesh Рік тому

    The emperor's children's promotion process, sounds like the modern day marine corps'

  • @D-2340
    @D-2340 Рік тому

    the first minute was a fire dovumentation about the ECs

  • @5050_Good_Odds
    @5050_Good_Odds Рік тому +3

    Fulgrim is hot therefore your argument is irrelevant

  • @sebboss3277
    @sebboss3277 Рік тому

    It's funny as a kid I was insecure and collected dark angels, now I'm an adult and insecure I collect emperors children.

  • @MrFallenone
    @MrFallenone Рік тому +1

    Fabius was the ONLY apothecary left alive so he was the chief by default and later by experience.

  • @theotherbaratheon1895
    @theotherbaratheon1895 Рік тому +4

    majorkill would you consider making minies of gender swap primarchs

  • @ronttiflfkf7712
    @ronttiflfkf7712 Рік тому

    Man is 2k away from 400k subs nice work you came a long way keep up the work 👍

  • @jreed150r
    @jreed150r Рік тому

    Dude congrats on the minis upgrade that’s freaking amazing

  • @inquisitorgarza312
    @inquisitorgarza312 Рік тому +1

    Fulgrim was physically perfect compared to his brothers, but it was clear to many that he had a weak physic because of his massive inferiority complex he had with his Father. Fulgrim for all his life was raised by dirty miners and impoverished people to believing his perfection, and he believed it full-heartily because he was one of a kind, but the moment his Father show up not only was he not perfect like him, he also wasn’t unique anymore because he had nineteen other brothers who were just like him. So throughout both the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy he was doing everything in his power to become ever closer to perfection until he finally became the Demon Snake we know him as today.

  • @riccardob.6226
    @riccardob.6226 Рік тому +2

    I really like fulgrim. He trhives for perfection because he knows is not perfect. He is human, and morally fragile. Hiding his flaws under the lies of perfection. He is a very deep character and you simply scratch the surface of this primarch. Since the beginning Fulgrim was MADE morally weak, the perfect shell for Slaanesh.
    The fact he promote eidolon and bile is perfectly coerent to his geeneseed. Arrogance was a distinct attribute to all the legion. Lucius was the perfect example, strong and powerfull beacuse his arrogance made him always seek for perfection.
    All of this attribute, to me, is a sign that Fulgrim is a much more deep character then some other “perfect” primarch. He have feelings, emotion, flaws that he tries to hide.
    Also the relationship with Ferrus is a testament on how Fulgrim was a really amazing character, if not, someone like Ferrus will never felt that king of brotherhood with him.
    While on the other hand Fulgrim was a beast in combat. Best duelist of all the other primarch. Destryng an avatar of Khaine, decapitating Ferrus, and cutting Guillima throats….
    Are you sure Fulgrim is so bad? You need to dig deeper to really understand him.

  • @Jimothyjohns
    @Jimothyjohns Рік тому +1

    This seems like a mix bad writing and character flaws for Fulgrim

  • @dra9onslayer
    @dra9onslayer Рік тому +1

    There's a couple characters that are so much more interesting than their writing gives them. Fulgrim has a lot going for him as a very engaging character but sometimes it feels like the Black Library writers are focused on the fact that he eventually turns to chaos, so he must be a dick now too.

  • @jochannon
    @jochannon Рік тому +1

    As a hardcore Angron fan, I am feeling vindicated right about now.

  • @Nooala
    @Nooala Рік тому +1

    Fulgrims biggest mistake was being written primarily by Graham McNeill, a guy who can't hide how much he despises Fulgrim even if he tried. :/
    Its such a waste of a brilliant character, if only he had been given a competent author...

  • @themattyp6637
    @themattyp6637 Рік тому

    surely we get a majorkill thousand sons sorcerer

  • @KomboAndy
    @KomboAndy Рік тому +1

    Fulgrim being a worse Primark than Angron is quite an acomplishment, when you realise that Angron tried to fuck up his own legion on purpose.

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 Рік тому

      And add to this his clone and ‘redemption arc’
      He sees what he became and blames the demon, saying everything bad was a mistake- but also because he thinks he wouldn’t do it because he sees how bad it looks, not that it really is bad

  • @trevorstubbs8294
    @trevorstubbs8294 Рік тому +1

    hey Majorkill I thought it would be awesome if you made a couple video on some of the other space marine foundings.

  • @noxthemc7717
    @noxthemc7717 Рік тому +1

    "I'm not like other men; I'm worse."
    -Fulgrim

  • @secondarytrollaccount
    @secondarytrollaccount Рік тому

    I don't understand how most of the primarchs didn't know what chaos was during the great crusade considering they were conquering the entire galaxy where there were surely enough chaos planets for each legion to encounter two or three a piece. I mean hell what did horus think when he was fighting that nurgle governor that stabbed him with the chaos blade? He had to atleast fight through a hive of nurgles acolytes to get to that point. There really was no point in the emperor keeping it a secret the way he did. Even if it were minimal or told to specific primarchs he could have done something. Like " hey sons if you find any planets where the people look fucked and are acting weird, don't come into contact with weird artifacts."

  • @JohnDiabol
    @JohnDiabol Рік тому +1

    Ooooor we can just acknowledge that 40k lore suffers from the "too many chefs in the kitchen" syndrome and that much of the lore just barely strings together. Their authors managed to shitcan the emperor, so are you surprised they didn't even do Fulgrim justice?

  • @thebushwacker
    @thebushwacker Рік тому +1

    Wow bro congrats on hiring your first employee. I'm sure it seems like you have come a long way too. I am super happy some people around the world are still living the dream that you built yourself. I'm super jelly and super happy for you bro, if your ever in Milwaukee I will happily drink you under the table. You earned it all bro bask in the glory of your success

  • @KuddlesbergTheFirst
    @KuddlesbergTheFirst Рік тому +1

    Fulgrim is Griffith's Griffith.

  • @riolufan2249
    @riolufan2249 Рік тому

    Took him this long to come to terms with it xD

  • @notani3533
    @notani3533 Рік тому

    Even when Fabius asked for help, Fulgrim just stands there and barely sent any reinforcement.

  • @kuafer3687
    @kuafer3687 Рік тому +1

    He still killed two loyalist primarchs though

  • @Schwartzbruder1
    @Schwartzbruder1 Рік тому +1

    The one completely stupid "twist/retcon" that i absolutely hate about the fulgrim storyline is him "somehow" getting out of that painting. Without any sort of knowledge of chaos or the arcane he somehow took his body back from a greater daemon? Bullshit. Plus it ruins the ending of the book Fulgrim itself. Im sticking to yhe headcanon that its a fake fulgrim running around since istvaan V

  • @BloopTheNoop
    @BloopTheNoop Рік тому

    I’m really excited about your minis

  • @Necroxion
    @Necroxion Рік тому

    Fulgrim: I'm back
    Cato Sicarius: I, Cato Sicarius, am in need of a diaper change
    Guilliman, rising slowly and painfully as he gets on his feet, chunks of the Armor of Fate falling off, and raising the Emperor's Sword into a stance
    Guilliman: we will all die, but we will die buying time for our brothers and sisters! Friends, family, we will all die, but we will all die standing!
    Fulgrim: why brother, there will be none left standing once we have a little waltz over there. This time, there are no more harlots to bring you back.
    Guilliman: why, I'm talking to one right now!
    ???: Rob, to your left
    [Portals start opening behind and to the sides of Guilliman, thousands of people start exiting]
    Jaghatai Khan, riding a bike around Guilliman and bellowing a loud throat song to raise morale:
    Perturabo pilotting an actual Warhound:
    The entire population of Fulgrim's Daemon World:
    Ordo Malleus + Grey Knights:
    The entire Iron Hands chapter and successor chapters:
    Everyone who got space cocaine'd, now as minor warp deities:
    The Loyallist Fulgrim clone:
    Legion of the Damned Rylanor + Vistario's squad:
    Perturabo: F*CK...
    Everyone: ...FULGRIM!
    [The Avengers theme plays as everyone bum rushes Fulgrim]

  • @kasp9889
    @kasp9889 Рік тому

    You should make a major mini Head Hunter (AL)

  • @brandonpotts54
    @brandonpotts54 Рік тому +2

    Fulgrim would have easily been caught by Chris Hansen.