Here's a video comparing a couple common types of torque angle gauge is as well as a quick introduction on why these are such important tools and also very cost-effective . .
What an awesome explanation, thank you for this video. This makes complete sense why manufacturers would specify torque to angle bolts for sensitive parts and your explanation regarding overcoming friction, etc.
My car has a lot of bolts with an angle torque value, but what I do is after hitting the initial torque value I mark the bolt heads with a sharpie at the 12 o'clock position and then I turn them until the mark is at the 3 o'clock or 6 o'clock position, obviously just depending on whether the spec is for 90 or 180 degrees. I feel like these tools overcomplicate things and increase the chances of error.
That idea is good for tight spaces or if you don't need an angle gauge very often, but some cars like subarus have weird sequences like torquing to spec, then loosening the head bolts 180° twice, then torqueing to spec again and then tightening 90° and then an additional 40°. At that point it starts getting complicated marking the bolt lol especially if you do it for a living. But yeah for 90% of people you're better off just marking
My 1/2" snap-on digital wrench that I bought used does torque and angle both, but it only had around 60 angle cycles in the counter memory while having well over 1,000 torque cycles when I bought it. Just not common in motorcycles/powersports where I am, but I've been glad to have it on a few axles and things when needed.
It took me a while to get over my disdain for TTY bolts. Not sure why (maybe its the single-use part) but I have learned to deal with it and bought one of these lol Great video
Something is bugging about this angle torque wrench...let say i want to torque 4 bolts to 100 degree for example...at which point do i start to torque? how do i know each of the bolt start at the same point (torque)? Because i might tighten each of the bolt randomly first and won't know if they are at the same torque...mind to explain how that works? Thank you in advance
Sounds like there's some missing information usually they tell you to torque a bolt to say 30 foot pounds and then turn a hundred degrees but yes you have to have an initial seating torque and then the angle torque is applied afterwards
@@CatusMaximus ah thank you for the info... Afterall torque wrench is still needed in the process... I thought I could use this without torque wrench.. Need to spend more money to get one
When I do Angles on after torquing I go around the corner next to the office and then pull it, or I’m facing away 180° my back towards the fastener then pull on the bar and my assistant tells me how much I’ve turned... In my early days I was trained to use the Sun and my watch...😎
Can i use this tool on a rear wheel bearing nut to torque the nut? My torque setting for the rear wheel nut is 280Nm so can i use this tool for this thanks.
I'd be worried about gauge moving it's setting when using an impact wrench . And working under a truck an impact is the only way to do the turn . 90lb and 120 degrees on a Volvo flywheel in the truck is almost impossible without the impact wrench
Indeed that is a tough situation these can be used as a measuring device is by putting the socket on it and having markings just like you already would using an impact wrench but they obviously are much more handy and open areas such as head bolts where you can use sufficiently long breaker bars
@@CatusMaximus I'll have to admit to getting lazy, if it's torque turn, the turn is done with an impact..... Unless you're talking 1/4 drive on an air compressor cylinder head
What an awesome explanation, thank you for this video. This makes complete sense why manufacturers would specify torque to angle bolts for sensitive parts and your explanation regarding overcoming friction, etc.
My car has a lot of bolts with an angle torque value, but what I do is after hitting the initial torque value I mark the bolt heads with a sharpie at the 12 o'clock position and then I turn them until the mark is at the 3 o'clock or 6 o'clock position, obviously just depending on whether the spec is for 90 or 180 degrees. I feel like these tools overcomplicate things and increase the chances of error.
That idea is good for tight spaces or if you don't need an angle gauge very often, but some cars like subarus have weird sequences like torquing to spec, then loosening the head bolts 180° twice, then torqueing to spec again and then tightening 90° and then an additional 40°.
At that point it starts getting complicated marking the bolt lol especially if you do it for a living.
But yeah for 90% of people you're better off just marking
Ha! The one you're calling cheap looks like my Snap-On TA360 angle gauge. I've had it 30 years and I've used it twice. Glad I had it when I needed it.
I just love watching talking hands!!
A lot conversation but don't explain,is lake vendor
I bought one over 20 years ago and have only had cause to use it twice in all that time. But when I needed it...I was glad I had it in the box.
:)
whats the lever for on the first? and the clamp on the second?
My 1/2" snap-on digital wrench that I bought used does torque and angle both, but it only had around 60 angle cycles in the counter memory while having well over 1,000 torque cycles when I bought it. Just not common in motorcycles/powersports where I am, but I've been glad to have it on a few axles and things when needed.
Yes torque angles are much more common than large and critical Fasteners such as head bolts flywheel bolts on diesel engines Etc
The OEM one would be better if it didn't have it's logo blocking the readings. It's also difficult to fix the arm to a good spot so it won't spin.
Agreed
It took me a while to get over my disdain for TTY bolts. Not sure why (maybe its the single-use part) but I have learned to deal with it and bought one of these lol
Great video
Yes sometimes they are annoying but really are quite reliable
Awesome review catus Maximus 🤓
Thanks
In aviation we use ratcheting torque wrench’s
Great Explanation
Something is bugging about this angle torque wrench...let say i want to torque 4 bolts to 100 degree for example...at which point do i start to torque? how do i know each of the bolt start at the same point (torque)? Because i might tighten each of the bolt randomly first and won't know if they are at the same torque...mind to explain how that works? Thank you in advance
Sounds like there's some missing information usually they tell you to torque a bolt to say 30 foot pounds and then turn a hundred degrees but yes you have to have an initial seating torque and then the angle torque is applied afterwards
@@CatusMaximus ah thank you for the info... Afterall torque wrench is still needed in the process... I thought I could use this without torque wrench.. Need to spend more money to get one
Great video.
Thanks for sharing.
New subscriber here from Philadelphia PA USA
When I do Angles on after torquing I go around the corner next to the office and then pull it, or I’m facing away 180° my back towards the fastener then pull on the bar and my assistant tells me how much I’ve turned... In my early days I was trained to use the Sun and my watch...😎
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Nice review👍🔧 I like that wood bolt🔩
Thank you
What is -45 degree? Is that meanbi have to lossen -45 degree
Thank you so much for showing me how to use this, I just bought this on temu and when I got it I had no idea how it works 🙂
My Gearwrench looks identical to the OEM!
I'm lost on this one.
Can i use this tool on a rear wheel bearing nut to torque the nut? My torque setting for the rear wheel nut is 280Nm so can i use this tool for this thanks.
Perfectly explained thanks
Thanks for the valuable information
Can that be used on lug nuts?
I'd be worried about gauge moving it's setting when using an impact wrench . And working under a truck an impact is the only way to do the turn . 90lb and 120 degrees on a Volvo flywheel in the truck is almost impossible without the impact wrench
Indeed that is a tough situation these can be used as a measuring device is by putting the socket on it and having markings just like you already would using an impact wrench but they obviously are much more handy and open areas such as head bolts where you can use sufficiently long breaker bars
@@CatusMaximus
I'll have to admit to getting lazy, if it's torque turn, the turn is done with an impact..... Unless you're talking 1/4 drive on an air compressor cylinder head
Thanks great video
Thank you