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Historian Reacts to Weird History's History of Powdered Wigs (I like to suffer...🤷🏻♀️)
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Weird History is at it again, and this one was pretty painful to watch.
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www.pepysdiary... - show my head
www.pepysdiary... - first mention of perriwig
www.pepysdiary... - picks up and pays for his perriwig
www.pepysdiary... - he wears his perriwig out for the first time
wrap.warwick.ac... - Emma Markiewicz's PhD
www.journals.u... - this article does try to make the argument for syphilis, but their sources (a 1905 newspaper article) and the interpretation of other the sources is garbage (plocacosmos).
doi.org/10.111... - Another academic article that agrees with Kenna's and I’s interpretation of Pepys's "show his head" comment.
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You should send them a copyright infringement notice and an invoice for licensing the photos without permission. Photos are not free to use just because they're online and as someone who works in a photo department of a newspaper, it's infuriating when people go with the better to beg forgiveness than ask permission theory.
I would sue the crap out of them.
THISSSSSSS. COPYRIGHT STRIKE THESE *BLEEPING NOISES*
This! Abby and everyone else they've stolen photos from should strike them into oblivion! They aren't even going on good faith, they are pedalling false trash and given who they are stealing from, they know it!
YES! YESSS!!! BLOODY FUC*ING HELL, YES! Kick their flabby as*es!
Yes, get a lawyer and start the process. They stole your work and I think they misrepresented you?
They discussed the long hair thing being a class and status sing and not even ONCE mentioned were the hair from the wigs came from mostly. Not ONCE, NOT EVEN A SINGLE MENTION
That would require surface level research and caring about people
what do you mean "from"? obviously from the factory of plastic artificial wigs. **obviously.** /s
They obviously just took some pruning shears to the hair orchard, silly. Hair grows on trees like spaghetti and money. Smh…
So true.
And fact is...I never wondered about this myself, before delving deeper into well researched content about history and fashion. It is not an obvious, well known fact in the general public, so it needs to be brought up, when making dedicated content about it. Very disappointing, indeed.
@@raraavis7782 I assume it has a deep link to colonialism. I know human hair was used. So probably from explanation. And I have heard that Horse hair was used too. I studied Anthropology but I vague know something about wigs and wig stuff/ fashion etc. I know enough to know exploitation was most definitely a part of wigs and fashion.
Weird History has a long-established practice of pulling alternative facts from their arses. I totally support you sending them a copyright infringement notice.
I definitely agree with you.
Perhaps they will think twice the next time, before using someone else's work.
Yes! They should not be allowed to use your photos without your permission to spin this hogwash. Go after them Abbey!
Yeah, please go after their asses with everything you've got, I'd donate money to that cause
so the Ripley's of UA-cam?
The phrase "big wig" is attributed to a British Parliament member George A. Selwyn in a letter written in 1781. "The first written record of the expression goes back to 1781 in G. Selwyn’s “Letters in 15th Rep. Hist. MSS. Commission,” where it appears as,
“A new point of discussion for the lawyers, for our big wigs, for their Lordships.”
This is the only record I could find, I could not find the actual document, it's buried in the 1781 Parliament papers archive.
Thanks for letting us know!
I thought it was a political party , the Wigs ..
@@ah5721 That party has a different spelling. Whigs.
After reading "is attributed it to British parliment member" my brain immediately went to Walpole.
The OED also has a 1772 reference from G. A. Stevens' Songs Comic & Satyrical "Ye big Wigs of Gresham some Nostrum compound, To keep our Heads clear and preserve our Hearts sound."
Best takedown by a costuber since Bernadette bought and reviewed the dress a cut-rate costume company ripped off from her Instagram. A+ work here, Abby!
Let's not forget the fact that Bernadette set a part of the rip- off dress on fire or the fact that Loepsie blasted Amazon for selling a knockoff version of her bangs while using a picture of her.
The insult of them saying incorrect nonsense while showing stolen images of your work is infuriating to me. If they're going to make poorly researched, poorly produced, piece of crap videos that claim to be about history but are almost entirely false drivel, literally the least they can do is not steal images from independent creators who put time, research, love, passion, and scholarship into their work.
If you decide not to seek legal action (because of the hassle or any other reason), then I understand and I support you in that decision. But I would love to see them face legal repercussions for this. It's just so wrong.
I take their stuff with a grain of salt already but now that stealing is added to the nonsense I'm boycotting! Thanks for putting it that way- straight up.
I think it’s also very important to mention that NOBODY should be going to Weird History to comment OR dislike their videos. If it’s getting a lot of interactions, YT algorithm sees that as something they should promote.
Yes, literally every video they produce is filled with concentrated garbage and fecal matter, but it’s very important NOT to engage en masse. Leave it to pros like Abby to take them down. Plus, it’s all the more enjoyable that way.
What about going to it only long enough to report it?
Can we bump this comment higher?
@@moxiebombshell I believe that if you pause it immediately, then it reads like it wasn’t viewed completely. YT looks at viewer retention, so the faster you click away from something, the less “points” (idk) the video gets for viewership. So if you go there just to report it and nothing more, it should be okay.
Channels such as weird history are outright dangerous in my opinion since people is led to believe they are credible sources and not satire
I don't think Weird History even considers themselves satire...
Not even satire. They claim accuracy.
@@adorabell4253 That just makes them more dangerous
I draw parallels with Weird History videos and the video factories that churn out DIY, hacks, and cooking videos that don’t produce the same results in real life. The goal is to attract and generate views for ad revenue. I suspect that negative reactions by informed people just increase that traffic a little.
There is some irony that Selwyn’s predilection for the macabre might have appreciated the outrageous claims of this video.
Weird History is directly connected to the website Ranker, which churns out listicles with Reddit-style "upvote" mechanics within them. In fact, the videos are direct copy-pastes of those listicles. While I liked browsing that site when I was younger (and by younger I mean earlier teens), setting foot there rn feels like i'm in a clickbait cesspool.
Weird History probably isn't the only channel they have. Ranker has a variety of "newsletters" in various topics, and Weird History is one of them. So we may encounter other clickbaity bs, watch out.
I didn't realize this when watching the original on their channel, but the image shown at 15:33 is from video made by Lemoncholy (called: Art, Fashion, & The French Revolution) which is more well-reserarched and uses quotes from diares of people who knew the subject of the video. And Lemoncholy managed to create creative art based on actual facts while WH failed to even say correct facts.
They probably didn't get the rights to it, either.
Oh my god. I cannot believe they used LemonCholy’s image!!! I recall watching the video when it came out and it was my favorite video for a while! Ugh. Weird history.
IIRC the original artist is janellefeng (that's her id on lots of social media too I think 🤔)
NOOOO HOW COULD THEY DO THAT TO MY ART HISTORY GIRLIE 😭
More than once i have fact-checked a claim on Weird History... and found a 2010’s blog post that they are reading almost verbatim. The Victorian Foods one was all from one blog post nearly in the same order.
So they're just stealing from everyone, both good and bad sources o.O
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Yeah… I mean, I think that’s mostly obvious. They aren’t always wrong, no, but they are doing quick bits for history. And they try to keep it light mostly, so I personally don’t see anything wrong with it if you don’t want to deep dive.
Wish Abby hadn’t made the Columbus comment at the beginning. I get it, but I also have lots of mixed feelings about straight demonizing anyone, even historic figures. Just feels weird
They have to be trolling you. There's no other explanation.
Quote of the Day: “We should be organising our professions and having professional organisations to help protect us from being taken advantage of.”
This is the reason I rarely watch any history related videos on UA-cam. And those that I watch gained my trust because they linked sources and/or actually show that they did their research thoroughly.
So thank you Abby for making this video
There are a lot of excellent channels, but you do have to dig for them.
@@kathyjohnson2043 can you recommend some?
@@orangentage I like AlternateHistoryHub, because, before he explains his alternate history theory, he thoroughly explains the circumstances that lead to the history we have today. I also appreciate his research as it seems to be not only well done but also done with recent papers.
@@orangentage Yes, but when I tried to type them in here, I ended up loosing the list. I'll type it out and then cut and paste.
Lindsay Holiday is a good one if you like royal history. Mostly European but she does branch out to other areas of the world sometimes.
The “syphilis spread like the Black Plague” comment got me too - like… let’s think about our comparisons a little before we publish them in a video (though that is the LEAST of this video’s problems).
Maybe bubonic plague was spread by desperate men and lame rats? How can you know for sure? WERE YOU THERE?
Right?? Like, no, it literally did not. Was it common in Europe? Yes, certainly. But Black Plague wasn't called THE Plague for nothing. And it was a HELL of a lot easier to contract Bubonic Plague than it's ever been to contract syphilis.
Does WH think _everyone_ was raw dogging everyone so hard syphilis spread as far and wide as _the Plague?_ That was a weird insinuation…
It’s so frustrating to see a channel like Weird History putting out videos full of complete bullshit…the sheer number of people who watch those videos and BELIEVE them is frightening! It’s absolutely trolling…especially since they used images from your own book!!
On a happier subject…looking forward to seeing your upcoming sewing videos while you get ready for the cruise! What an exciting trip! Sending you good vibes, always.
My face when I saw a comment on that video going "they should show these videos in school!" was...yeah...🙃 😅
I do think their videos are mean to comedy not informative.
UA-cam will take action if creators steal copyrighted images. I know of at least one channel that they deleted over this, and that particular use of images wasn't nearly as egregious as stealing from your book. I don't know how the process works, but it could be an easy fix to them and their idiocy.
@@AbbyCox During school my history club actually showed one of their videos. I was very mortified and confused the entire time lol.
I guess I'm glad I found this channel, had no idea weird history was garbage LOL. I'm late 20s. I'm embarrassed
You need to "get so weird" as to have a lawyer send them a cease and desist order, including they pull that video down until you have approved the use of your content and they have paid any licensing fee you require.
You dont need a lawyer to do this. UA-cam allows you to send a cease and desist automatically and you can claim sections of the video so that they either have to clip out the part or swap the image and reupload. Literally no reason to retain a lawyer until they refuse to change it twice at which time youtube has it set up so that the claimant has to sue them.
However, all they would need to do would be to cut or alter the image enough to justify fair use and then there's nothing that can be done. It's arguable that just having the speech overlaid onto it is enough to justify fair use and as this channel isn't a massive corporation, youtube will not bend over backwards to abuse copyright to pull it down.
@@danielbroome5690 normally I (admittedly, caveat, not a lawyer) would agree that "providing commentary on an image" would provide some protection ...however, they are NOT providing commentary on the image, nor using it as an actual, accurate illustration... They're straight up lying about the content of and meaning behind the images (since as Abby notes, those aren't wigs! They're from her book about historical styling of ACTUAL HAIR, not wigs!), while also failing to cite the source of the image or credit the models or photographer.
Seeing as I'm sure their channel is trying to make money off these clickbait videos, one can also pretty easily argue their use isn't purely "educational" in intent, but quite commercial.
That all would, I'm fairly certain, considerably harm in various degrees and ways, an argument for "fair use".
Again, not a lawyer - but from being in artistic and fanwork circles, I aware of what Fair Use was primarily intended to cover, and the most legally defensible forms. And this... would not easily pass those thresholds.
A clear cut case of Fair Use might be one of the following:
- providing commentary on/directly related to the work in question (see: "real x reacts to" videos, reviews, debates about content e.g. "Well MY research says...", that sort of thing); legal reasoning being along the lines of providing allowance of context for free speech/intellectual discourse about the work. This can and often does include parodies, under theory that parodies are a commentary on the original I some way, though parodies published for profit can be a delicate legal balance (as it was for the author of the satire of Gone With The Wind called "The Wind Done Gone"), though more on that in a moment.
- using small portions of the work for valid educational purposes (usually seen in contexts like teachers photocopying something as a handout for students in a class, quoting research in an essay, or trying to educationally extrapolate on the work or a related subject, e.g. if this were a video about hairstyles through the ages and someone presented it in the CORRECT context, especially with citation, that would be an easier argument for fair use); legal reasoning would be to support intellectual discourse and education. (Can be undermined if using too much of a work, though two or three photos from a whole book like that probably wouldn't be an inherent issue its own right it also isn't an inherent protection, but rather very context dependent)
- it also EXTREMELY helps ones case if the derivative work including components of it, is not produced with primarily "commercial" interests in mind (e.g. Archive of Our Own is able to host fan fiction as well as they do with so few USA restrictions as they do, in part because the organization that runs it is a registered Non Profit in the USA, and is transparently run as such, not even accepting advertisements to avoid the commercial entanglements that other popular places to post fanfic, such as fanfiction.net or LiveJournal, had run afoul of - you're not even allowed to promote for profit things directly from your profile or posts to AO3, that's how seriously they take it). The legal argument for this is generally: supporting artistic and intellectual freedom, WHILE balancing the (mostly monetary in this sense) interests of the original copyright holders.
-another mitigating factor is whether the derivative "harms the reputation" of the original, and though this is often more of a concern with trademark issues I think (e.g. the band Aqua I think briefly had Mattel go after them for the use of the Barbie name in the song "Barbie Girl", which...is uh. Obviously a satirical use of the term in context, with lines like "you can brush my hair/undress me everywhere" and "I'm a barbie girl/ in a world/life in plastic/it's fantastic" etc and talks of "fantasy" like it's clearly using Barbie as a metaphor for certain aspects of modern culture... but Mattel and the like often aren't known for their sense of humor)... defamation can also be a thing that complicates things legally for the user. See, the Truth is a defense against defamation, and Opinion can be too as its subjective, but if you're not TELLING the truth, and you're clearly framing it as a Fact and not Opinion...
Yeah. "Weird History" is on not the most stable of Fair use grounds here I think.
Because to recap:
- They aren't discussing the images' ACTUAL context and in fact are pulling them completely out of and away from their real context; this can hurt the argument that it was "educational" let alone an actual commentary on the original
- with the misrepresented context, and the relative easy access but iffy citation quality of today's searchable databases for images that are so readily available to the public, I feel like a clever enough lawyer could argue misrepresenting it that way could cause audience confusion about the source and original context of the images, and therefore be damaging to the reputation of the creators or models of the images, and for instance, have unjust negative impact on Ms Cox's book's reputation or sales.
- the fact that they are very likely profiting or attempting to profit from these videos is also not favorable to them, ESPECIALLY having reproduced the images without notice, permission, or credit. To use it in what ultimately is a commercial product that was not given permission for that use, can much more easily run afoul of the photographer's copyright, the models' release agreements, etc.
Also worth noting: Abby asserts one of those images is not "easy to find", i.e. not easily available just from the public internet, which indicates it was a very much non accidental, wilful use of a copyrighted image. Which... then went uncredited AND misrepresented, in a video that was likely monetized or intended to be monetized.
So idk, it's not an easy Fair use case to make on their part, and I'm pretty sure Abby would have good justification to copyright claim the images in that specific section, and that UA-cam policies would appropriately apply there.
At absolute minimum, it is justified to require them to remove the images or correct the misinformation about them including lack of citation. But the lack of permission from the models in particular for this use is another factor that I don't think The WH channel realized they should be concerned about but very much should be...
So many people got their work stolen without credit.... to support false claims. That's infuriating.
This is a valid point. Weird History did use other people's work, some of which is copyrighted. Did they get written permission to use those works? Where is the boundaries of fair use? Weird History don't make documentaries.
@@bcase5328 In this case, unfortunately, educational video (even if it's inaccurate) likely more than covers their fair use of this copyrighted material.
Absolute History is the 5 Minute Crafts of 'historical' content. Should we all start calling it "Absolutely NOT History?
Everytime an eighteenth century illustration popped up for seventeenth century, I died inside a little
That video was recommended for me and I just knew, "oooooh, Abby's gonna HATE this!" but for a moment, I will admit, I was sorely tempted to watch it. But then I decided to wait for your inevitable reaction video instead. Glad I did.
* with a shaky voice and tears in my eyes: *
We all gathered here today to honor a very special person, Abby Cox. She has left us mere hours ago after witnessing horrible lies, out of context facts, and overall the most garbage content the youtube can deliver. Let's honor her by a moment of silence and by clicking on the like button under her last video where she forever documented the unforgivable act of her own demise by the most awful historic channel this site can host.
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Amen
May her soul find peace
sobbing😭(πwπ)
I even have my spouse ranting about this and he really doesn't care about the 18th century. He's not into any of this and still knows better. 😂😂😂😂 I had to pause twice in the first 5 minutes and got a "Okay just put it back on let's get this over with" 🤣
This is an incredible experience.
Update: He's got SALT and has gotten into the early history of the US. 🤣🤣🤣 I am blessed this day.
Abby, please consider making a copyright claim for their use of your work. Please protect your work.
Waiting for Nicole’s response to Weird History’s the “real origin of clothing”
To cover up syphilis? Seems to be a thing for WH
I hope you can make a copyright claim and get their revenues for stealing your work!
Nah, since I’m using their video to make my own money. What I am doing is fair use though…
@@AbbyCox seriously, copyright strike them
This is not okay and it valid grounds to sue
Even if you only demand that they read the book - on camera - as payment lol.
@@AbbyCox You should honestly. Or at *least* email them and ask that everything they used of yours without your permission gets removed from the video. What they’re doing is not okay and if you don’t react they’ll just continue to do it.
I’d personally be petty enough to comment on the video asking them to stop stealing your photos and to especially stop using them while spreading incorrect information so everyone could see how bs of a channel they are 🙃 You know we’d all go and like it
@@AbbyCox The 'Good Folks' ☆cough SARCASM!☆ at Weird History. Have released another video yesterday called the 'History of Fashion'. & all I can say about it is *WOOF!* It’s a complete & utter dogs breakfast of misinformation from start to finish! 🤮
I'm a layperson when it comes to the history of fashion. But even I know that 80% of what they said in their video is *BULLSHIT!* Just from the basic knowledge of history I learned in high school. 🤦♀️
The video including everyone at the Catherine dé Medci Time Travel Society's. 'Favorite' historical fashion subject - corsetry, & yes they do go there *AGAIN* with the claims about whale bone. 🐋🦴
In fact they make whale bone & it's use in ladies garments, a running joke throughout the video. 😒 You seriously need to summon the Ladies, & rip their latest monstrosity a new one.
Weird History is basically the Ancient Aliens of UA-cam. They take a crazy theory and slap on a thin coat of historical veneer to sell their tabloid gossip as "educational" content.
I literally just re-watched your reaction to the Weird History corset video and as a historian who has put years (not to mention $$$) into research and learning to be responsible in my research, I just… aagghh!!! This physically pains me to see history butchered like that, and don’t even get me started on the use of your images while also touting BS…. Btw, I LOVE your book and learned so much from it! I’ve been pomading and powdering my hair since April and this is the healthiest my hair has ever been!
The number of images they took from small creators is infuriating they dont credit and probably dont even ask like god as an artist seeing illustrations from modern artist who asked nothing and get their art stolen and used in a shitty video legit makes me wanna puke
Catherine de' Medici Society: PRESENT... COCKTAILS! Also, they took your photos and should be punished. WWMD? (What would Medici do?)
Abby Cox believes in Communal Brain Cell Depletion after watching s**tty takes on the Internet and I’m here for it!
13:24 The subtitle says ‘entomology’ instead of ‘etymology’ which is either a hilarious reference to the lice situation or just an unfortunate typo.
If I remember correctly, in the first video in this *series* the Cathrine club said that it seemed like whoever was in charge of finding the photos from weird history did their best and the head editor just didn't care to use the images properly.
I would not be surprised if that is happening here
Interesting thought... Do you mean that like the person finding photos thought they were somehow doing a good thing by using images from (among others) Abby Cox since they are well-researched, quality examples of the subject -- but then the images were misused / misapplied by the editor to a terrible script? Because I could see that as a possibility
@@moxiebombshell exactly! Abby does point out that some of those images are not easy to find. So someone had to really go looking for the sort of photos they wanted, not just the first Google search results. There was effort here (with only some of the images I'll admit). I suspect that the photos were handed over to people who didn't want to put in that same effort.
I love your conspiracy theory about the working of ‘Weird History’ 😂
(Also, I find the video funny because it feels like a giant piece of irony but should absolutely not be taught in schools because you along with video essayists exist)
Oh dear, I thought it was poor Catherine de'Medici again but no, im litterally speechless right now and wonder where in earth they got these "infos", ideas and nerves to spread these brainfarts into internet and yes, make a serious copyright claim, that was wrong and rude.
It seems that weird history and the history side of UA-cam are in a feud. Because fashion history is not the only area that they completely butcher. I’m hoping that they’re secretly a satirical channel. Because almost every one of their videos has channels that are dedicated to properly researching history rebutting them so… 🤷♀️
Honestly, I would kinda love if they just owned that they're the Onion of history, would 10/10 laugh my ass off
Yeah, but I love watching even the innacurate ones because they always have the parody illustrations. I love those. Id watch an entire silent video with just parody paintings, newspaper charicatures and other things like that.
Weird History is owned by Ranker and Ranker's answer to how reliable/credible its rankings are is basically "Yeah, it's complicated…," so I guess I wouldn't expect anything more from WH than pure poppycock.
The video where you alongside a group of UA-camrs reacted to the history of the corset and it will never stop being iconic. When will all of you come back?
Oxford English Dictionary cites "big wig" thusly: G. A. Stevens, "Songs Comic & Satyrical" 229 "Ye big Wigs of Gresham some Nostrum compound, To keep our Heads clear and preserve our Hearts sound." The next citation is Selwyn.
The great Abby Cox and Weird History battle continues!! Abby Cox, knight of the tearing down of bullsh*t historical analysis!
‘Weird History’ feels like Dan Brown and ‘National Treasure’ with a side of American Man brand of comedy.
Go after them for copyright infringement. They are where facts go to die and they deserve to be taken to court not only for stealing your photos, but for ignoring your text.
I doubt this would hold up in court. It more than likely falls under fair use due to it being a transformative, educational video.
@@danielbroome5690 but they didn't source her. At all. They just showed it and didn't say who it was and where it was from.
At the risk of being misunderstood, you may consider that Weird History's use of your work is a compliment. In grad school, I had my work plagiarized by a professor in the department, and my advisor (who experienced it himself) said that I should consider it a compliment. Twisted, yes, but I know my work is good enough for others to try to rip off. My advisor and I had a long discussion on how can I protect my work.
Congratulation, your work is good enough for others to rip off. It is a shame that UA-cam does not give away plaques for that.
Weird History produces satirical versions of history, but the stuff is sophomoric. A better title of their powdered wigs piece is "Guess how many times we can say "syphilis" in this piece?" In this video, you strongly argue that the actual history is from your work and others who produce research-based, historical videos. If you know the other historians, you may want to collectively make a very large copyright claim - if successful, you put out a video to show others how to do it.
You may want to talk to a lawyer to learn what you can do to protect your work.
This comment had me in the first half (er, first sentence) not gonna lie. Then we got real and I love it. Fuck research/art/any thieves! When you can protect your work, you 100000% should with the full extent of your ability. Especially when other smaller content creators are equally being ripped off, and by terrible quality, bottom of the barrel, theives!
Weird History doesn't present itself as satire, and ignorant people absolutely believe it.
when they reference a source I'm convinced it's cause they read wikipedia and then went to the source notes and then referenced the same source without reading it
If I had to choose between the series weird histories or the series Horrible histories, I'd choose horrible histories because at least they double check their research and add a humorous almost Saturday night live vibe to it.
I'm so sorry you're having to deal with this, Abby. I agree with Jessica Bell. Slap 'em with copyright infringement. Make them understand that this is NOT okay.
Oh, gosh. Big hugs, Abby. They are either trolling you or are enjoying your roasting and the traffic it gives them. Either way, "pluck yew", Weird history, pluck yew.
I love that you debunk their facts with specifics, and I would lovelovelove to see the rants that you edit out of the video. 😋
The windows as your new bg tho, they're amaaaazing!! I'm in love
I see what he's done. He's name dropped all those celebrities so that when people search for those names the video will show up on the search. If they did know they used your photos without permission, again, they will pull your subscribers too. Totally understand your frustration. But their video is funny. And your frustration has highlighted the video again.
They've done another one on the history of fashion, which is.... interesting... 😬
Weird History is wrong about everything they do a video on. That is why I won't sub to them and I mark them 'Not Interested' or 'Do Not Recommend'. They are literal garbage. Also now I'm mad that they stole your work and used it to spread garbage.
Yeah- what's worse is that they're ambiguous about whether they're satirical or actually believe what they're saying.
I love how passionately she talks about Weird History's wrong doings.
First, thank you for your historical research. Apparently, college made me a citations junkie. Go watch "Chariots of the Gods?" if you want full-on weird bullshit ripping of shit out of context and then making shit up. It's a genre. Maybe somebody should do research? "A Modest Proposal" as founding document?
Abby Cox, I have your book and use it as my reference for my 18th c hair. My hair is long and fine, so anytime I curl it, I use pomade. When in 18th c mode, I powder with cornstarch since I have celiacs. I can achieve quite a nice height and some curls with just the use of a single rat. Also the pomade is fairly easy to get out. 1970's lacquer hairspray is hard to get out.
The phrase "big wig" does, in fact, come from the 18th Century and means "an important person, especially within a sphere".
What’s the source for this? Could you share?
Ok - so the googling I did all claim this but no one is showing the proof - do you know a primary source for this? (Genuinely curious)
I just figured it was a misspelling of Whig.
@@lucie4185 That’s an interesting thought. Maybe it was meant as a pun potshot at members of the Whig Party. Who were in power for the majority of the 18th century in the UK.
@@AbbyCox I've tried posting the links I found for you over a dozen times. But UA-cam won't alow me to do so. 😡🤬 Sorry Abby. ☹
I watched this Weird History episode when it came out, and 1min in my first thought was….ooooh Abby gonna be pissed!!! Thank you for calling them out. Love your content ☺️
I love binge listening to Weird History not because I find them as a reliable source of history information but because I find them entertaining because of how the person who voice over it.
15:34 That lovely art came from a video called "Art, Fashion, & The French Revolution" ua-cam.com/video/g7_udUy0WzY/v-deo.html
Edit: Also, do you have some tips on sourcing things on historical fashion? I find it impossible to find firsthand resources
i swear, i saw abby's soul leave her body (and then return) a couple times during this video as she reacted to weird history's bullshit.
and i feel the frustration as well.
I love watching you roast weird history
I appreciate you're series of "I watched it so you don't have to"; honestly, you're doing god's work. lol
Thank you (and Kenna) for doing the work! I love hearing your info and where you found it, it adds so much to the video to cite your sources and give the background info. Not to mention, it's the right thing to do.
I want to take the “It’s a bad joke” out of context and use it next time someone thinks they’re funny!
Thank you so much for providing us with the right, truthful information instead of the nonsense that is being spread by people who can't be bothered to do the research. Whenever I "learn" something new, I look to the experts for confirmation (often members of the Catherine De'Medici's Time Travel Society 😊) because you are all a lot more likely to have the proper historical information. All of this to say THANK YOU 💜
No better way to start a week than with a cup of tea and then the whole pot from Abby with heavy dose of snark and realness about a niche topic-Thank you!
Absolutely wild that it required a bit more effort on their part to find the images from your work and steal them (not just taking public domain/creative commons/stock photos from the first page of Google Images) but somehow totally missed that they were taking images of real hair and hair styling techniques, not wigs at all. I don't know how they managed that?
It's already terrible that they stole your work, but then they made it extra terrible by putting that stolen work into an incredibly shitty, poorly researched video that entirely misrepresents said work and spreads so much "historical" misinformation to probably millions of viewers.
_Open Question_ - Our church just inherited some vestments that date somewhere from the early 1900's to the late 20's (unfortunately their paperwork did not survive). The good news is they were stored in trunks for several decades. The bad news is they were just tossed in so anywhere there was a fabric fold is now in need of stabilization; with additional wear and damage to the stress points on the garments. Our priest wants to restore them and move them back into circulation for our congregation (and, with luck, they'll meet the beginning of the next century). I'm looking for resources / people / all-relevant-rabbit-holes that can help with the process of restoring these vestments in the best historical preservation practices.
These vestments were created by highly skilled team of sewists. The embroidery and detail work is extraordinary (I swear, at some points, they were showboating their skills). I suspect some of the trim will need to be replaced with a modern equivalent (if that exists). Right now I'm in the baby-steps stages of building a daisy chain of people that will help bring these back.
Thank you. Enjoy your Sunday. Cheers!
- Cathy (&, accidently, Steve), Ottawa/Bytown/Pimisi
I'm English and the term big wigs is used to refer to members of partiment because they wore big wigs, around the time of Charles the 2nd, you can use it like
" I dont make that decision, it's upto the big wigs at (management)"
HAPPY PRIDE MONTH! 🏳️🌈
Thank you for being a Safe Space on UA-cam ♥️
Totally agreed! The LGBTQ + community LOVES US SOME ABBY!!!❤️🧡💛💚💜💙🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏳️⚧️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️(Yes,pirates are people too!)
Anyone else crush hard on rant mode Abby?
I love this so much and this is why you are one of my favorite UA-camrs ever! I have learned so much from your channel!!
I’m happy I’m here. Happy Sunday to everyone! This is a Post-Nap Treat for me. Yes, I do realise I sound like a cat.
You are a lot of fun as well as informative. A nice break from the rest of this crazy world.
Had to google bigwhig/bigwig - and almost everything that came up went with the wig idea. However, I’ve always assumed it was associated with the (now defunct) British centre-left political party, the Whig party. I only remember seeing it spelt as bigwhig growing up in the UK. British English has become more Americanised now than it was in my childhood/teen years, and I am now seeing the simpler spelling of bigwig and big wig more often (this may be correlation rather than causation). Clearly I’m not an academic source, but it is my suspicion/theory that the British spelling of bigwhig implies a connection to the political party. Of course that doesn’t rule out the term also being connected to wigs.
I thought it was a reference to the political party too - the Whigs
We call important people “bigwigs,” according to the OED, because “of the large wigs formerly worn by men of distinction or importance.” The term “bigwig” was first recorded in 1703 in a weekly journal called English Spy: “Be unto him ever ready to promote his wishes … Love the OED for actual research, and citations that allow people to fact check for themselves. (grinny face emoji).
Not an historian here, but I skipped the weird history video because I knew it would be full of bs! I mean...not all of their videos are so bad but many are. I am glad real experts like Abby debunk all the mistakes and inaccuracies! She probably needs a stronger drink next time though😂 Adding: also STEALING from Abby's work??? Good to know, I'll unsubscribe from them.
One of the most fascinating uses of wigs (pretty modern as far as I know, like 20th century or maybe 19th?) is married jewish women using wigs as a work around for having to cover their hair. I love that it’s so ingenious!
Good for you, Abby, for slapping Weird History silly! I do believe they owe you for using images from your book. I just love your videos because I am learning something, and I am getting the correct information.
xoxo's Sandie
i love that they talk about syphilis like its eradicated. Syphilis is at an all time high, with a 400% increase since 2012!
I feel actual concern for people who instead of watching Weird History (& co.) for entertainment, presume to get educated by them. And the anachronistic quips just annoy the hell out of me.
There's dumbing down a subject for laymen to understand, and then there's this farce. At least I get two laughs out of each of their videos... watching theirs, then watching their utter destruction through reactions. I do discover the best - actually - educational channels because of that!
@WoodPileDenmark Humor is subjective. I don't get how people find enjoyment in the misfortune of other people, so I don't feel any joy when I see someone for example falling on their butt (I know, bad example, like I said, I don't watch them, I don't get schadenfreude).
However I do find it amusing when someone speaks about something ludicrous as fact AND like I said, it's useful to find actual educational content by gauging the reaction to that ludicrousness.
I feel guilty by association because I really like Weird History as an entertainment channel, but obviously I'm also subscribed to Abby's channel (and a few other fashion historians) so I'm here like *sweat* lmao
If it helps, the algorithm thinks I *love* weird history cause they are always showing me their content and I'm like "no my eyes they're burning please make it stop *clicks* whyyy did i do this to myselfffff*
1. Syphilis in the era was also congenital, not just the STD.
2. Can we get more drunk Abby history?
The wig thing could be for many reasons. Maybe just for fashion. The cavemen may used wigs too.
I literally watched the Weird History wigs video the day before you put your video up, Abby. When I was watching it I said to my cousin (who was watching with me) that you should put up a reaction video taking down every myth that they were saying. The next day I woke up to the notification that you had done just that! My wish came true! Thank you!
I know what you meant, but I'm totally picturing the Weird History producers doing arm pumps when you say, "I am watching you," because that is *exactly* what they want. It is super uncool of them to be using your pics. Keep up the great work!
OK, honestly I am only 1/3 of the way in so far by now but why do people have to relate everything to sex. Sex is considered so naughty and so people just go crazy with diseases which relate to it.
According to the OED, "bigwig" originates from the "early 18th century: so named from the large wigs formerly worn by distinguished men".
Hi! I work in copyright and can confirm- you have perfect grounds to send them a copyright infringement notice for using your images and quoting your work without giving proper credit! Give them hell, Abby!
Time for a copyright infringement notice! I haven’t enjoyed a snarky takedown this much since Bernadette Banner bought the plagiarised version of her own dress.
Yeah it's pretty confusing of the weird history title of the wigs
Such a fun chat. Just got out of my sewing room and sat down to watch your video. I have really enjoyed your videos. I hope you have a fabulous week ahead. Thank you for post the video and sharing your time.
This came up for me yesterday. I almost watched it, but then I saw it was Weird History and noped. Thanks for suffering so I didn't have to.
LOL
After going back to watch the previous meeting of the CdMTTS I definitely think you and Weird History are in fact feuding.
The good news is that the comments underneath their videos do you proud.
I wish I could use hello fresh but I have so many food sensitivities that normally I could only eat one dish of their options. So it’s not a good fit for me.
Oooo copyright infringement AND misrepresenting your research and publication - that deserves legal action.
Uh, big channels like that need to be held accountable for stealing other creators content.
Pretty sure they mixed up real history and scifi (the Centauri from Babylon 5) which are EXTREMELY loosely based on European history.
That's it.
I've blocked Weird History. The only time I will watch them from now on (if at all), is when Abby and The CdM's TTSociety make fun of them.
Weird History should be taken with a grain of salt. No wait, make that a tablespoon. No, wait,. the whole box of salt.