I recently compared the 416 to the Soundbird v6 and like what other commenters said, the 416 has a crisp and full body to the sound. Similar to the MKE 600, I think the Soundbird V6 is decent option as well. Not a full sounding but not bad especially coming in around half the price. I put off getting the 416 until finding a “like new” copy on eBay at a great price. Between that and the MKH 50 not sure what other mics I could possible need. Nice work on the video and great comparisons. I totally agree not everyone needs, or can justify, the 416 but if the opportunity presents itself don’t turn it down!
When people talk about what a mic sounds like, or an interface or preamp sounds like, I can't help thinking, "I don't want these parts of my chain to sound like anything." With mics, the law of diminishing returns kicks in pretty low on the price curve; paying $600 rather than $200 doesn't make enough difference to matter for most of us. After a solid day of reading and watching reviews on shotgun mics, I'm about to buy an AT875R for $150. For what I do, nobody will say, "Ew, he used a cheap AT and not a 416."
Appreciate the detail and effort you took to make this video I know how annoying it is to have to keep track of a bunch of different different audio files lol and sync them up and shit so I appreciate that
MKE-600 is good in short distance. But int performance is not good in longer distance. For longer distance MKH-416 preferable. I have MKE-600. It does not perform well in low cut. But for short distance for interview face to face, for example, it is very good. If anyone want for long distance recording, e.g. bird sound recording, go for Neumann.
@@creativegreatsvisuals "Low cut" lower frequencies cut. Some mics have 40Hz cut switch; some have 80 Hz cut switch; and some have 160 Hz cut switch; some have even more than 1 point cutting switch, e.g. 40 Hz and 80 Hz. When "low cut" is off, the mic picks up the rubble sounds and are not clear.
fantastic video. thanks for the effort. im torn between Audio-Technica AT875R and sennheiser mk600. Sennheiser is double the price of AT875R. Do you think its still worth it?
I don’t have any experience with the AT875R but I have heard great things. If you don’t need the dual power source of the 600 then I would get the AT. Also, consider buying used. Lots of folks sell their 600 at a great price and in good condition.
I just purchased an MKE 600 and run it through my Rodecaster Pro 2. I’m lost though, it seems as though I have to set the gain to 45-55 in order for it to pick up my voice properly and have it in the green bar range. Doing this though I get all the horrible sounds of the room and house coming through to the max. It doesn’t sound good at all, I’m very lost as to how to make it sound good. Everyone on UA-cam seems to have one and it sounds awesome, is everyone just doing a load of post processing? I’m so lost…
@@TomWadeCine I am. When I set the mic up to start, I selected condenser and it auto sets to 25 gain. 25 though is far too quite, I mean it picks up my voice but seems like a huge volume normalisation needs to be done in post to make it audiable and able to be heard. So I need to set it to around 45 but then it picks up every sound on the planet including the electrical hum of the AC even when it’s turned off. 😕
@@TheMiniatureStudioI’m not familiar with the podcaster 2 but I found this video that may help you. ua-cam.com/video/E5CJIATPXYg/v-deo.htmlsi=40_vfkv709l-EDsN
If you want a great sounding mic for less money than the 416, get the Audio-Technica AT 875R. On the other hand, if your budget allows, go for a Sennheiser MKE 416 or better yet a Shoems CMIT 5U.
The title threw me - you are right that the 600 sounds great, but there is still a clear difference between that and the 416, and you say it in the video: the 416 just sounds better and clearer. So yeah, for most applications, save your money. As a voice actor doing pro sound, though, I think I'll opt for the 416. Thank you for the comparison. I like the sound of the 600 but the 416 has a crisper, more magical, more flattering sound. It's subtle, but it's there.
The thing is, you can fix or achieve the same or similar results with all the new DAW plug-ins and if you know what you doing, you can almost make any make sound good😂😂 😂😂 Sound is only subject and THERE IS NO absolute perfect sound. There a base level and after that, it is all relative sir. 😊
@@TomWadeCine Tom, you can put some headphones and go to 6:40 and listen to yourself at full volume. Your voice gets wobbly, if I would say so. Just like a CapCut filter of a sobbing man was applied at 5/100. Usually all those Voice Isolation and processed techniques are flawed unless real sound engineer does it
MKH 416 is overkill for 90% videographers 😂 and i have expensive ones. I do love my deity theos and MKE 600 that’s all you need for professional work 90% of the work out there. 416 is more clearly and warmth.
Your unprocessed sound is much clearer and less boomy than the processed sound to my ears:- Sen HD600
Straight into the camera part of this test is exactly what I was looking for 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Check out my new video which was a dedicated test. Sennheiser MKE 600 XLR vs 3.5mm Direct To Camera Sound Test
ua-cam.com/video/D4Te5OoSgH0/v-deo.html
@@TomWadeCineThankyou
Awesome video, Tom. I just purchased an MKE 600 to pair it up with my FX30. Very excited to try it out on my next video.
Hope you enjoy it! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. Cheers!
@TomWadeCine is it sounding good?
I recently compared the 416 to the Soundbird v6 and like what other commenters said, the 416 has a crisp and full body to the sound. Similar to the MKE 600, I think the Soundbird V6 is decent option as well. Not a full sounding but not bad especially coming in around half the price. I put off getting the 416 until finding a “like new” copy on eBay at a great price. Between that and the MKH 50 not sure what other mics I could possible need. Nice work on the video and great comparisons. I totally agree not everyone needs, or can justify, the 416 but if the opportunity presents itself don’t turn it down!
I'm doing a video on the MKH 50 coming soon. I feel like I have the perfect combo for outdoor and indoor mics with the MKH 416 and 50. Cheers!
When people talk about what a mic sounds like, or an interface or preamp sounds like, I can't help thinking, "I don't want these parts of my chain to sound like anything." With mics, the law of diminishing returns kicks in pretty low on the price curve; paying $600 rather than $200 doesn't make enough difference to matter for most of us. After a solid day of reading and watching reviews on shotgun mics, I'm about to buy an AT875R for $150. For what I do, nobody will say, "Ew, he used a cheap AT and not a 416."
Amazing video
I’m glad you liked it!
I would be interested to know your preset configuration if possible? As a complete beginner this would be appreciated. 😊
Same question! 😊
Great review
thank you!
Appreciate the detail and effort you took to make this video I know how annoying it is to have to keep track of a bunch of different different audio files lol and sync them up and shit so I appreciate that
Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed the video
I like the boom pole setup what are these attachments?
MKE-600 is good in short distance. But int performance is not good in longer distance. For longer distance MKH-416 preferable. I have MKE-600. It does not perform well in low cut. But for short distance for interview face to face, for example, it is very good. If anyone want for long distance recording, e.g. bird sound recording, go for Neumann.
What’s low cut situations where a 416 will shine ? What is low cut mean and what are examples of low cut?
@@creativegreatsvisuals "Low cut" lower frequencies cut. Some mics have 40Hz cut switch; some have 80 Hz cut switch; and some have 160 Hz cut switch; some have even more than 1 point cutting switch, e.g. 40 Hz and 80 Hz.
When "low cut" is off, the mic picks up the rubble sounds and are not clear.
@farwestgarohills3831 I read of both your comments and can't make sense of them.
That's what I just noticed with mine.
Hi there what Neumann for birds do u mean in price range of MKE-600?
fantastic video. thanks for the effort. im torn between Audio-Technica AT875R and sennheiser mk600. Sennheiser is double the price of AT875R. Do you think its still worth it?
I don’t have any experience with the AT875R but I have heard great things. If you don’t need the dual power source of the 600 then I would get the AT. Also, consider buying used. Lots of folks sell their 600 at a great price and in good condition.
@@TomWadeCine thank you so much for detailed answer. keep up the great work
I just purchased an MKE 600 and run it through my Rodecaster Pro 2.
I’m lost though, it seems as though I have to set the gain to 45-55 in order for it to pick up my voice properly and have it in the green bar range.
Doing this though I get all the horrible sounds of the room and house coming through to the max.
It doesn’t sound good at all, I’m very lost as to how to make it sound good.
Everyone on UA-cam seems to have one and it sounds awesome, is everyone just doing a load of post processing?
I’m so lost…
Are you using 48v phantom power?
@@TomWadeCine I am. When I set the mic up to start, I selected condenser and it auto sets to 25 gain.
25 though is far too quite, I mean it picks up my voice but seems like a huge volume normalisation needs to be done in post to make it audiable and able to be heard.
So I need to set it to around 45 but then it picks up every sound on the planet including the electrical hum of the AC even when it’s turned off. 😕
@@TheMiniatureStudioI’m not familiar with the podcaster 2 but I found this video that may help you. ua-cam.com/video/E5CJIATPXYg/v-deo.htmlsi=40_vfkv709l-EDsN
@@TomWadeCine thanks I’ll give it a watch. 👍🏻
@@TheMiniatureStudio Goodluck
Can then MKH 416-P48 go straight into the FX3 or will you need phantom power still?
Great comparison - what deadcat is that?
I believe it was made by movo. Overall a good one
If you want a great sounding mic for less money than the 416, get the Audio-Technica AT 875R. On the other hand, if your budget allows, go for a Sennheiser MKE 416 or better yet a Shoems CMIT 5U.
I’ve heard great things about AT
That's what I'm doing. The 875R is good enough for what most of us do, and we can buy a half dozen of them for the price of a single 416. That's huge.
How do you “process” them? Thank you!
EQ, Compression, Room Killer, Limiter, and Noise Gate
Hey Tom, big fan of your work. How can we buy/get your presets? I figure to use yours to save us some time in post
Yes
@@TomWadeCineso is there a link to get your presets for the MKE 600?
Outside recording: MKE600 sounds boxy, MKH416 sounds open and clear with pleasant low end.
Thanks for sharing
which lav mic do you recommend to pair with the mke 600 ?
Sennheiser has a great one but I love using the hollyland lark max
I am sorry, Bbut your processed voice sounds terrible on my UA-cam. The raw signals sound much more pleasing.
Thank you for sharing. Great comparison. I'm curious - what mic was you using for the last segment 15:06 ?
thank you, glad you enjoyed the video. It was the 600
The title threw me - you are right that the 600 sounds great, but there is still a clear difference between that and the 416, and you say it in the video: the 416 just sounds better and clearer. So yeah, for most applications, save your money. As a voice actor doing pro sound, though, I think I'll opt for the 416. Thank you for the comparison. I like the sound of the 600 but the 416 has a crisper, more magical, more flattering sound. It's subtle, but it's there.
Completely agree. Thanks for watching. Cheers!
The thing is, you can fix or achieve the same or similar results with all the new DAW plug-ins and if you know what you doing, you can almost make any make sound good😂😂 😂😂 Sound is only subject and THERE IS NO absolute perfect sound. There a base level and after that, it is all relative sir. 😊
The 8070 blows the 417 out of the water and is only $800 more. Perhaps one of the only true lobar mics you can still buy new.
processed sounds worse , im i tripping?
You’re tripping 😁
True, proccessed sounds cut off and unnatural most of the time, if you have a keen ear
@@TomWadeCine Tom, you can put some headphones and go to 6:40 and listen to yourself at full volume. Your voice gets wobbly, if I would say so. Just like a CapCut filter of a sobbing man was applied at 5/100. Usually all those Voice Isolation and processed techniques are flawed unless real sound engineer does it
depends on if you're recording bob ross swallowing some spit leftover in his mouth. probably sounds great there.
By the way the 416 sounds way better I use the mke600 . On camera the Mke 600 does produce less noise than a on camera rode mic pro + in my opinion
very cool, thanks for the feedback. the MKE 600 is very versatile. I can see why so many people love them.
MKH 416 is overkill for 90% videographers 😂 and i have expensive ones. I do love my deity theos and MKE 600 that’s all you need for professional work 90% of the work out there. 416 is more clearly and warmth.
416 has more body ! But if you mix, no big !
glad I could help. Cheers.