Playing wrong notes with Victor Wooten
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Don’t miss around 10:31 where Victor intentionally tries to make me mess up by playing in different keys and syncopations 😂
Slap like hahaha
if you think a note is wrong it is not.. its just haven't been resolved yet..
Victor Wooten having guitarists feel like the supporting instrument.
Music is Win Awesome, I love the way Victor teachers… It throws people off sometimes because he’s unconventional, but you did a great job
Dude that is seriously dope! 😵
Came for a music lesson, left with a life lesson.
IKR
That's what happens when you learn from Mr Wooten!
Woooorddd
So true
That’s Victor for you. This man is a national treasure.
Universally all bass player - "Music Theory is the law"
Victor Wooten - "I am the law...."
This bass player: you don't need theory for most genres if you have a good set of ears, a bit of imagination, and a good sense of groove. I know a fairly minimal amount of theory, based almost solely on things I've noticed while playing and watching others play. I can still make most players sound good while playing most things, just on merit of groove and my intuition. Hell, I don't always even know what key I'm playing in, haha!
@Me, Also Me You have to know the theory well in order to go beyond it.
He won't tell you that 😁
hell yeah
Anthrax
"Theory only comes in if there's a problem, if I need it. Theory is a tool, and like riding in a car, the tools are in the trunk. They're not in the passenger seat. I hope I never need the tools!" Brilliant analogy.
He's a really wise dude. Runs music camps and such. He definitely finds joy in music education & his language reflects it.
Also can i add, if your car ever stopps, u use ur tools to improve ur car and to fix and make ur car move...
@@lucapolo9 yes my dude
an amazing answer from someone who knows the hell out of music
pretty sure Keanu Reeves said that...
“These are all the notes, you tell me which is wrong”.
That’s the funkiest shit ever spoken.
Dude totally I got second hand confidence from that
Just watched him on a Sweetwater and had no idea that he had been on Music is Win, he’s like a musician and philosopher.
Wow! That is one awesome quote.
It's right artist doesn't need notes only art and emotions,as training kills emotion
this kinda blow centuries of musical "pedagogy" into vapor. it's so freeing and so enthralling too .. gets your mind working deeper
"Theory only comes in if there's a problem."
"Theory is a tool."
Interesting contrast with Adam Neely, or maybe not, I'd love to see them have a chat about that
Adam is thinking pretty much the same like Wooten in his reharm episodes.
pcb1962 Adam always talks about the importance of MUSCLE MEMORY and CONTEXT.
@@pcb1962 I think this statement is not contradict with Adam's view on music. He always says that theory is a wonderful opportunity of studying and analysis music, which is, by Victor's words, a problem. You want to understand how it works and why does it affect your perception of this specific piece then you should try theory. You want to groove/jam with some fella? You hardly think about what scale goes with that chord, since you have no time to do while you playing. You apply your experience and empirical knowledge to reach the sound you think is mostly fits in this moment.
At least I see it this way :)
@@DoubleAncient I don't disagree, my point is that every note that Adam plays he knows exactly why he's playing that note, theory, whereas Victor knows what notes to play without thinking about any theory. I'm wondering if Adam is saying that you need to know theory to play well, and Victor is saying that you don't.
"This has been my favorite chord progression since high school."
Victor : "ya I use that one to tune my guitar."
Lol dude totally just had a lifelong dream of getting Wooten to play a bass line to that cheesy progression. Didn’t really work out unfortunately...
@@workhardplayharder2645 Yeah, it felt so forced lol
this made me laugh so hard thanks
Lmaoooo comment of the year?
@@workhardplayharder2645 it was a nice progression. Vic just felt like making a different point.
What he nonchalantly does to “reshape the groove” starting around 12:35 is one of the coolest and grooviest things I’ve ever heard. What a legend!
Yea I loved that...tyler had the stank face too
Had to rewatch that section a couple of times to fathom what the hell is going on there… magnificent
Mr. Wooten is a true talent.
The first half of it sounded good but that second half before he “brought it home” I didn’t like
for me this one at 11:35… such sex 😪🙀🥲
Victor Wooten is so good that tuning his bass is the opening to a triple Plat album
😂😂 yup
7:05 "the coolest notes are the wrong ones". Well who knew after all this time that my playing was cool after all
Jazz summed up in 7 words
😂
Well yes but actually no...
@@emileguitar but actually yes if you just play
He's so right. If you play a "wrong" note, resolve it to a "right" note. The "wrong" notes are charged with tension, the "right" notes discharge that tension and bring you home. If you're lost, bend and make a face until you hit a pitch you like. Or slide until you hear a cool pitch.
I love how uncomfortable he looks when he's shitting on music theory XD
LOOOOL you can see it in his face 😂
Can't express how much I loved that. The tools in the trunk analogy really was perfect.
@4ever EndlessX I like this analogy better than the video one!!
Really clever.
@4ever EndlessX lets say you imagine a melody, u imagine the rhythm and all the parts and everything. at some point, without theoretical knowledge you will not know what notes and movements you need in order to achieve it.
Ive noticed this myself many times and as hard as i try to realize most of the work i would make, it simply does not arise without the knowledge, even though theory is so fucking complicated, i know it well but not enough
i have complete knowledge of rhythm yet i never use it to compose directly, sometimes it helps but withotu the knowledge of interchanges and harmony i cant realize melodies
victor was absolutely right though. this is always something I say to friends that ask about theory. they'll ask like "oh i really wanna learn theory so i can get better at writing" and my response is usually "the only reason you'd ever wanna use theory is if you need to communicate with other musicians" writing using theory almost always makes you sound terrible and boring.
Best statement Victor made was that "it is the context in which the notes are being played that matter. There are no wrong notes." That concept is what is "missing" in music education today.
Same in jam sessions. If everyone is on the same page with this mindset, magic happens
This whole video was a life lesson. I love what this guy stands for. He made tons of good points.
"Because it's the wrongness that grabs your emotions." Well that's cool. I'm the most emotional player there is.
Lol
Hysterical. :D
Lmao
Oh my… lol
It's not a clam - it's just a feeling!
"I can play in the totally wrong key so well that it will make you sound wrong..." -Victor Wooten 2020
He wasn't wrong
Marko Polo but he was
@@brendantunkel1114 I love this thread even tho its 2 replies
Brendan Tunkel he wasn’t you clearly wasn’t watching and listening
@@robloxman0716 Wooosh
Plot twist: he played the wrong note accidentally then made up the whole lesson to pass it off as intentional
Bruh
That's a pretty good lesson in and of itself. To quote Miles Davis, “It's not the note you play that's the wrong note, it's the note you play afterwards that makes it right or wrong.”
it's actually a lesson in management
Genius.
Ngl that's pretty Victor wooten
12:30 gave me goosebumps with that harmonics man what a great player
Cool pfp man
@@gabriel-ox7qu Thanks man, yours looks cool too. 🤝 lmao
Victor is such a gem in the music industry. Guy feels like that Dad you wish you had lol
When i hear the term " music industry" it imediately asociate me to business, money - mundane. Music is mistery per se and total art that shouldnt be lost in mundane world of money, sucess, fame etc.
"I don't know the key. but I don't care."
-victor wooten 2020
That motto might work for bass players I guess
Dude, it works for everything
@@Adam_Pagan bro... bass and rythm playing diferent note.. and whos wrong ??
rythem or bass ??
Works for piano too. It doesn’t matter as long as you have a good ear
You can figure out the key after the first two notes.
"We don't drive around with the tools in the passenger seat, they're in the trunk." - Just might be some of the best advice I've heard that goes for anything.
+9999
That's the second piece of great advice I've had today. The first was "If you want to excel at your job - learn to do the job of the guy that comes before you, and the job of the guy that comes after you." Now this:
"We don't drive around with the tools in the passenger's seat; they're in the trunk."
Totally agree! You must learn theory, in order not think about it
Rich Johnson Except for bank robbers...
I will write down his words about theory. He just nailed that!
Honestly, the part around 11:41 where they’re both playing in totally different keys still sounds fantastic to me, reminds me a lot of the album “birds of fire” by the mahavishnu orchestra, that album is very heavy on polytonality
Everytime I rewatch them I learn something new. Everything Victor says sounds like a friendly chat but is actually really profound for learning how to play musically.
When Wooten pointed to the audience member and said: "Look at you head now right?"
Well he might as well be pointing through the screen
word
Word x2 he’s better than those late night infomercial psychics.. it felt like he could see me 😂.
Zactly, me too!
Watch the lady sitting behind him on the right side of the screen.
"Theory only comes in if there's a problem"
Possibly the most valuable line ever uttered in relation to Music theory!!!
"You keep the tools in the trunk!" YESSIR
@@RobFlaxMusic still gotta have your tools handy
well that is not an excuse to not learn theory, it means that after you have mastered it you should forgot about it and use your feel and emotion, Charlie Parker said simmiliar wisdom, something like learn the theory and then just forgot about it and play...
Music theory studs getting they little bubble burst lol
He then says “now here Is where theory can come in....you learn theory so much, so well, that you don’t have to think about it”
So again, it’s not don’t learn it, it’s not valuable. It’s learn it so you can be right and use the incorrect notes... correctly lol
I've probably watched this over a hundred times. The harmonics Victor plays at 12:37 is probably the best I've ever heard on bass
You should watch more videos then.....
@@AntoinMhicArtain why? wooten is objectively a top musician of today, it certainly is of the best. you should broaden your horizons and stop listening to the same 3 dudes
@@flipf615 Well, I'm clearly listening to Wooten too......but please, educate me Mr Musical Master.
@@AntoinMhicArtain "you should watch more videos" implying there are much more and better examples out there. of course you are wrong. study some music, you have no problem telling people to "watch more videos" so you should have no problem with me telling you to actually pick an instrument up
@@flipf615 I play guitar, ok Beethoven?
It’s freaking intimidating to play through with Victor Wooten! Well done!
12:31: “That’s cool. This is cooler. I’m gonna reshape his groove to make him sound better.”
Causally activates GOD MODE.
I don’t play bass. I don’t play guitar. I keep coming back to this video because it’s ridiculously impactful. Eyes, ears and heart wide open. This is beautiful.
Same man. As you can tell by my pfp I’m a drummer. So I love bass too. Victor is a mad man. But everything he days here I can take over to the drums and use that as inspiration
George Heasley I’m a trumpet player! I definitely understand how to play lead but also how to support the lead player. He just demonstrated it in a compelling way free of arrogance and self importance. Selfless. That’s beautiful.
Jam out brother! Be well.
little_puff_ball puffinshmirtz well, arrogance is part of the ingredients to even sticking with playing trumpet. Who in the right mind would even enjoy playing this blasted piece of devil brass????
You should be a bass player
"Theory only comes in if there's a problem" is some of the most sage shit I've ever heard with music honestly.
ngl that bit legit made me cry a bit
@@SamThredder 🤣
The guy did start playing bass when he was 2 years old !
My God that's exactly the way I've thought about it but I could never crystalize it into language until I heard that! Brilliant
@@thinkinyblinko6666 "crystallize it into language" is the most beautiful way I've heard anyone say "put into words"
It sounds fantastical
I'm watching this for the second time and 5:28 further cements it in my mind that bass and guitar have their own roles and feed into and off of each other.
This video is over a year old now, and it has been the only youtube video that has actually given me good advice. Victor teaches so well how to not focus on the technicality, and just feel it. I really appreciate this video, and remember it every time I play.
Wootens tuning method is more beautiful than anything I’ve ever played 😂
My thoughts exactly. And nice profile picture, great album 👍
@@pzooka where's this picture from?
@@sadyakubovich Artist: Bueno Vista Social Club
Album: Bueno Vista Social Club
What's shapes is he playing?
love the profile picture buena vista social club
“Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist.” - Pablo Picasso
Picasso said "pro" ?
- Albert Einstein
- Mark Rutte
I think it was “professional”. My art teacher has the same quote on a door in her classroom.
Nah I'm pretty sure that was Jaco Picasso. Or was his name Pablo Pastorius?
Without a doubt Victor Wooten is not only the worlds greatest Bassist, but he is so skilled and accomplished he could probably even make an amateur musician sound godly.
I’ve seen this video like 10 times and still, every time I see it recommended, I watch it again. I don’t even play bass but Victor is just such a master and his insight is second to none. There’s few people who I can say have as much musical knowledge as he does. Put simply, he has the feel and also has the intelligence to explain it. You rarely see people with both those traits.
“Your job as the rhythm section is to make other people sound better.” Victor Wooten everybody.
Everything is said in that sentence ! What an inspirational human being
priceless lesson! truely!
100%
my hero wears a bass not a cape
Damn he good man
"So, as a rhythm section musician, my job is not to just play with him; it is to make him sound better"
This is GOLD
I love that!
Yeah!
VW is one of the most humblest music legends. Apart from the musical advices he gives, he always slips in a moral lesson which is so uplifting. Just like his music!
Such a cool video, watched again and after few moths and it is still great. Certainly a gem in your collection.
Gandalf: "A bass player doesnt play wrong, nor does he play right. He plays precisely like he's meant to"
Wise words from Leland Sklar
Bro 😂😂😂😂
I’d like to add good. A good bass player
"I can play in the total wrong key so well...that I can make *you* sound wrong." 😂😂😂😂
Lol I played guitar in a band that had a lead singer that would sometimes sing sharp.
Then he'd come over to me and look at my guitar and me like I was playing the wrong chord!!
And the thing that sucked is people watching believed him!
So it looked like I was playing off.
that's where so many jokes about bass players come from )))
I kno man, that comment floored me! lolol
And Victor proceeded to do exactly that. Mighty fine.
I would just love to have these guys get together with a drummer and play " The wrongest song ".
This was really insightful. Tyler always does a great job going with the flow of the people he interviews and walking with something cool
This is my single favorite music education video. I love everything about this, the approach, the thought process, this is seriously valuable information.
"tired of learning music from random youtube videos?" - no Fender Play ad... i'm not
Touché!
😂
Right?!
lmao
It's funny because that's pretty much what Fender Play is isn't it? Random people from Fender teaching lessons on a UA-cam style video player.
"If you can play wrongly , you can play rightly"
-My hero and a very friendly bass player Victor Wooten
DUUUDE I LOVE THIS MAN
Lingling can play it both ways
hahahaa twoset
This was one of the coolest and most useful videos I have ever seen! Wooten communicated his thoughts extremely well in such a short amount of time!
I now reference this video at any practice or show I’ve played in the last few months. Thank you to both of you for opening my mind.
I remember jazz band when telling us to do a solo he always said “ There are no wrong notes, just wrong choices.”
I remember a similar mantra from a teacher. Still never made me feel better about my botched solos, though.
There are bad notes. We all know them when we heard them. It takes a mill musical miles experience to not hit them. By theory or by ear. Theory guys are correct. By ear is a much longer road to getting there. I just won't play any other way but by ear or feel. Never been fired from a gig in 30 yrs. But it was a hard road indeed.
Love this... Thank you
Victor “ No body hired you to play the right key”
me: got kicked out of band for not playing with the right key 😂
You should play with your fingers or a pick then...
@@vetlerradio u should play with ur nose and eblows
@@SirPraiseSun I could If you can film it!
Victor would get the rest of the band kicked for not playing in the right key.
You could use theory to play with the wrong key and sound spot on !!!!
By far, this is my fave you’ve posted!
Listed down all the good stuff in my journal 👍✌️😉 thanks Victor and Tyler! So glad I came across this video today.
Victor isn't just a talented bassist, he's a talented musician. Very fun to watch.
please, please, please, choose a different logo dude!
@@johnlannikk2701 oh yeah yeah
Lollllll
He’s a talented human being it seems
Yes, last I checked bass players are musicians lol
Victor: "My job is not to just play with him. My job is to make him sound better."
Tyler: "You're hired!"
Victor: "That's what ends up happening." 👌😂
that was the most enjoyable bit ngl
Oof when white mediocre guy tries to "hire" talented black guy... been happening in the music industry over the past 100 years
@@13AustinPrince I mean you heard what Victor did there.
@@13AustinPrince lmao bro pull the stick out of your ass, it was a joke
Playing the wrong notes is dangerous and that’s why using them right requires mastery. In the hands of a gifted surgeon, wrong notes create classic moments in music
Thx for the post Tyler! I learned something valuable. Also…I’m glad you had a chance to have an awesome experience for yourself. You deserve it!
The interview felt like a kid asking questions about space to NASA.
I get the feeling that Tyler can barely contain his fanboyism and is just thinking "OMG I'M PLAYING GUITAR WITH VICTOR WOOTEN OMG I'M PLAYING GUITAR WITH VICTOR WOOTEN" during this entire video lol
I thought his lack of fanboyism was odd at first but realized that likely if he let even a little glee out, there’s no way he could reel it back. Meanwhile I’m smiling at the screen like a pure fool lol
@@DeadBeatDeeBo Instead of fanboying, I think he's really trying to cherish the moment and absorbing everything he has to say
You could tell he's trying to contain his excitement
Yeeee.... Look at him getting overdressed , jk
He's clearly not fanboying at all and in fact, if anything, looks slightly uncomfortable at how arrogant, rude and contrary Victor is being.
Wow! What a great interview and lesson! One of the best!
Thank you so much that was so awesome with you and Victor, love your channel I’ve learned a lot I appreciate it✌️🤘😎
This reminds me of a quote from Herbie Hancock, where Herbie once asked Miles Davis about ways to improve soloing. Davis replied with "Don't play the bottom notes", meaning don't play the notes below the root, but Herbie misheard him and thought he said, "Don't play the butter notes", which Herbie interpreted as "Don't play the notes that are comforting or are what people expect to hear". Herbie said next live show he incorporated that idea into his solo and got a standing ovation, and now lives by "not playing the butter notes".
cool
True saw it at the explaining music video
Dont play better notes! It was
@@minmaj7837 No it was actually dont play the BUTTER notes
People/ musicians who think VS feel. Bots
This guy just turned a technical video into a spiritual one. He's like a motivational speaker! VICTOR WOOTEN you're a legend! ❤️
You should watch his TED-Ed. Also his graduation speech.
just ua-cam.com/video/2zvjW9arAZ0/v-deo.html
exactly. loved it.
@@henryfinman6176 or read his book The Music Lesson, very good read imo
Victor Wooten never ceases to amaze me. His music philosophy is so liberating, groovy and fun ❤
Man... I really like the content you put out. I know this is from three years ago, but this is the first time I have seen this video and this might be my favorite video I have seen from you! That had to be so awesome playing with VW like this.
Victor Wooten is on a whole different level. When you think he’s teaching you how to be a better musician he actually teaching you how to be a better human being.
Definitely feeling the same way!
It's like listening to Buddha+Mandela+God of Funk all rolled into one...
the 2 are intimately connected, your musical progress is limited by your progress as a person.
@@axeman2638 YEAH
No, he's not. Lay off the weed.
@@UmVtCg who hurt you ?
with 30 years of playing I think this is the best lesson Ive ever heard. Spectacular
Same here Nick, I've played for 32 yrs
exactly
Closing in on thirty years as well and I completely agree with you.
Cool story bros
This is the most perfect video I have seen in a very long time! Thank you for the insight. I needed this.
Victor is such a wholesome dude. Glad to see you playing with him!
“I don’t have perfect pitch but I don’t care”
You really shouldn't, you're better off without it
Several genres are completely unlistenable with perfect pitch like black metal and lo-fi. These use bad pitching as standard.
hayp what time stamp did he say that at? This video is cool but I didn't catch that part by the way I totally agree with you.
Then proceeds to correct the guitarist on what key he's playing in. Epic.
@@jakerakestraw5751 ear training
13:17
"You're hired"
"That's what ends up happening"
Haha, smooth and savage. ^^
I love victors understanding of music. So natural. A real inspiration. Thank you for the video.
Awesome!!! Victor has always been my favorite bassist for close to 15 years now, and I was lucky enough to see him in a drum-bass duet concert 10 years ago which was an absolute treat. Still the most musically impressive concert I’ve ever been to
“The tools are in the trunk” if you have to pull out the tools you broke something. God that’s great.
Victor is a true genius.
This is seriously one of the dopest lessons ever. No joke.
🤯
Vic is such a beast. and so humble. great vid man!
Victor is the man! One of the best live performance ever and the stories he tells are just as good as his music.
12:26 Anybody else catch Victor flicking a drop D switch after the start of that groove once he realised he needed to go lower than the E lmao
Good eyes, I'd never notice that
had to watch that flick like 10 times to understand where he did it. Dude's smooth af.
That was amazing.
Sorry. You guys are correct.
how the fuck does he do that, that's next level
13:07 As a drummer, finding bandmates that think this way is so satisfying.
I need to find some Haha
As a guitar player, I absolutely hate when the rhythm section just follows me. It takes away tremendously from creativity. With every instrument doing its own thing, my band and I can incorporate cool things like polymeters, sick bass lines and countermelodies into our songs to keep them unique and invigorating.
xxxtentioncable it all depends on the style of music bro, if that’s good for your band, then great, but for funk, jazz, etc. sometimes it’s better to just let the music do the talking-sometimes less is more
@@xxxtentioncable6813 I'm a bassist and I used to be in a band with this guitarist who never stuck to a key signature or anything when he played, which is fine, but he also couldn't relay what he was doing to me so I could make up basslines to go with it. Guy knew nothing about music theory or notes on his guitar or anything. Since he played in weird tunings, following his fretting was worthless and even though he was creative and his playing was good, it was too much of a headache to be constantly trying to keep up with him.
Sadly, Thats rare to find
This was such an amazing video to watch, I can't believe I am just seeing this now. I haven't really had any lessons in my guitar journey, but I've learned so much from this one video than I ever have on my own.
This guys passion is infectious- awesome video will definitely be watching it again 🙂
“My audience wants to know theory”
My guy: I don’t use theory
He literally said himself he does use it. He just learnt it so well he doesn’t need to think about it anymore.
@@Milark Issa joke
The two skills for him are now 2cnd nature as it should be. I'm illiterate musically by CHOICE having encountered too many theory snob bots. That's my theroy.
Had a chance several years ago to meet and visit with Victor Wooten, I’m really bad at bass but He was so nice and made me feel like we had been friends for a long time. He has great philosophy and yes he made me feel comfortable missing a note and showed how everyone has been a bass player just listening to music, he also said the most influential people in the world make music, think about it, a musician can ask 100k people to quiet down and they will. Not even your favorite political figure has that influence over people. A year later I met him in a crowd again and he remembered me, I didn’t ask he just said your that guy from.... made a nobody like me feel pretty special if only for a moment.
This was mindblowing to me. I m
A theory guy who always is looking for those other notes and chords that make a song pop. This is truly a great lesson in how to think about it.. or ... how "not to think" about it !
Victor is awesome and i love his attitude on keeping music special even as we live in the "i want it right now" age. Such an incredible person and outlook on life.
Victor is just jamming and Tyler is freaking out hoping he doesn't mess up in front of Victor "Wrong Notes" Wooten
I could listen to Victor Wooten talk about music all day long
What an amazing guy! A man of his abilities and talent and profile, humble and patient and kind enough to teach. Need more people like him! Glad you had the chance to meet, learn and jam with him.
“Theory only comes in if there’s a problem; is a tool. Like riding in a car, the tools are in the trunk, not in the passenger seat. I hope I don’t have to use it”
As a music producer and music student I spent a lot of time focusing on theory and trying to get very technical. I started actually finishing tracks when I let things flow and started using my ears. Very wise musician.
Exactly the same experience for me. Focusing on theory and technique has ruined my early years, as a musician. Today, it's as if I were freed from all that stuff. Django knew no theory. He WAS music. Does nature need theory? Theory is a tool, as he says, mainly when you're learning, when you're young. But, as P. Boulez said, musical studies must be as short as can be.
@@pascalsolal That's a really narrow-minded perspective. A musician that stops learning and growing is not a good example of a musician in my eyes. There are many genres where a lack of musical understanding will just hinder your progress or slow it down immensly.
If I hadn't devoted myself to technique and theory training I would be stuck right where I was 2 years ago. Not everyone plays 1-4-5 blues all the time.
@@swaggerchegger98
You misunderstood my point (or I didn't make myself clear). I didn't mean you stopped learning. But you learn by practicing, by making music, by listening. Not in books. Debussy, Schoenberg, had the same point of view. Bartok said that composing can't be learnt.
he knows the theory so well that he naturally plays the 'right' notes. he said something in those regards in the interview. he wanted to connect to the interviewer, who's at a lower level, so that's why he explained it that way. he teaches new students all the time so he wants his students to stay interested and creative, especially if they're young. but you'd be a fool if you thought that he can't talk shop about theory on a very high level. i've heard alot of high level musicians say something along the lines of what vic said because they've achieved full creativity with their music/art. hell if even joe pass says it it's good enough for me lol
@@swaggerchegger98 "A musician that stops learning and growing" Jeez ! So by that statement are u saying that learning theory the only way to learn and grow for a Musician? Looks like u don't want to accept that the many years you've "devoted" to learning theory may have all been for nothing .... Dude, if you can't understand the emphasis on FEELING You've lost the point of Vic message. You can talk to a scholar with unquenchable vocabulary ...but the problem is after couple of seconds , it feels like bullshiting each other ...Because I as a general audience, dont wanna know or talk big words man or how they are constructed or what's their importance ....I am here to feel your music and THAT realisation liberates you from being this Self Important, Knowledgeable theory dude who can point at the wrong note but when it matters can't play a good interesting groove ....Tyler is a great example lol ... You theory whores are all about pointing at things coz that's all u know ... Pointing at things and giving it a name , the music simply flew off the window, the feeling of the long drive broke like a bitch coz all this while you were hooked on the tools at the back of the truck ....
13:09 Victor just basically explained what Cliff did for Metallica before his death. He did play what James or Kirk was playing he changed it just a little bit so he could drive their riffs to the fullest and make them sound better.
finally another metallica fan
@@daveclark9233 omg I’ve finally found one other soul who’s heard of the underground metal act, Metallica
@@Goatboii best underground band in the entire world bro.. Metallica 🤘🤣
Cliff did it just like any other bassist
@@ater508 Most bassists just think about/are told to just play root note, when in reality, they should make the whole band sound better.
Got to see Victor when he came to a small college town in northern CA when I was in high school with a buddy who played bass and was hooked on him. 20 years later he’s still doing amazing things and I enjoy it even more since I’ve started learning how to play guitar. Great video!
Buddy, you nailed this interview... VW is just amazing I can't get enough of his playing. I have been playing the guitar since 1967, self-taught at one point in my playing I too was pretty awesome but I have not been playing much the past 5 years, several reasons like torn rotator cup and a comminuted wrist fracture where the Military Surgeon totally jacked it up. Whenever I do try to olay there is just way too much pain
"These are all the notes. You tell me which ones are wrong." Love that... not sure I could pull that off but it sure does sound nice.
@@lueysixty-six7300 It works much the same for a ryhthm guitar. If you watch some funk bands, rhythm guitar can be almost as percussive as bass.
@@lueysixty-six7300 If you have a bass playing a constant note you can chromatically move chords over it until you've hit every note and it'll sound fine because your brain can easily follow that as a pattern despite the massive dissonance at point.
That awkward moment when you realize you didn't need Berklee but just a few minutes with Victor Wooten for the greatest education you ever got. LOL! I. Love. Victor. Wooten.
This is one the simplest and coolest musical advice that someone could give! Great content \m/
so happy I watched this. this will change my approach to music forever. huge thanks for sharing!!!!!
This dude makes so much sense. “Theory only comes in if something is wrong”. Big chunk to analyze there.
Yeah, and the metaphor of the car: "you're riding in the car and the tools are in the trunk, they're not on the passenger's seat, I hope I'll never need the tools" :-)
A better analogy imo would be “you are the mechanic, and your car is the music, you can only build a fast car if you have the right parts (ideas) and the right tools (skills)”
The fewer parts and tools you have, the slower and less reliable your car will be.
The fewer ideas and skills you have the less interesting and dynamic your music will be.
You can’t build your car without having both of those things, a load of tools isn’t much use without something to build.
"Theory only comes in if there's a problem."
"Theory is a tool."
This does not mean don't learn your theory btw
"Learn theory well enough that we can be wrong with it"
you still have to learn your theory
He never said “don’t learn theory”, I think his main message is just to remember the listeners role in the music.
You don't have to. I only learned it because my ear was shit. Now it's better and I rarely think about theory.
Dinosaur if you don’t learn it, things will be a lot harder in the long run. Also you kinda disproved your point in your own comment 😂 you may not actively be thinking it, but that basic understanding is there
Learn theory so you can break out of it
It's like what Comedians do with the English language. You have to know it so well that you can intentionally use it wrong, which is where slang and comedy ultimately comes from.
One of the best music videos I have ever watched. What great stuff.
Victor's bass tone is glorious!!! Between his fingers, that Fodera, and his Hartke, just perfect!
This video is so amazing and has totally changed how I think about playing both bass and guitar. Thank you Tyler and thank you Victor.
I feel like the real difference between a good and bad musician is the... confidence. It doesn't matter how complex the stuff you play is, or how precise you are, what matters is how confidently you do it. This especially applies to bass, the reason why a lot of guitarists sound like shit when they pick up bass is how timidly they play it. Bass sets the key, the rhythm, and it is the real lead instrument, because when played properly, it LEADS the whole band. Lead guitar doesn't lead anything, it just stands on top. In fact, it works best when following the other instuments.
LRed13 Well said!
Luey Sixty-six
Bass and guitar constantly interact the job of the bassist is to make the guitar or groove of the song sound better. So they need to interacr
From conversation:
- I can tell you even before we start, that I will not be thinking about music theory. I’m tell you that right away
This people don’t want to hear my theory come out of here(means guitar), they want to hear my passion(my emotion, my feel), they don’t care about how much theory I know
- We learn theory in order to be right, but what gets your attention is the wrongness. As soon as I play note not in a key, you say woooo (point finger to the guitar), right.
So we need to learn theory well enough that we could be wrong with it.
- Nobody hires me to play the right key, they hire me to make groove.
- Check it out, I don’t know what key, I don’t have perfect pitch, but I don’t care, because you’re not gonna dance to the key, you dance to the groove.
- The contex make it right, not the pitch. We teach you pitch, but we should teach you context. You can put any note into that groove context and it will work.
- A lot of the time I see is the instrument in a tune by playin chords. That much more fun than this(play melodycs). I like to make music.
- Main thing is if I groove hard enough I can play any notes and you will like it.
- I can play in a total wrong key so well, that I can make you sound wrong.
- Sometimes to make him sound better I play in a different place.
- My job is not just play with him, my job is to make him sound better.
- We don’t teach that, we teach musician how to sound better, when you job on the guitar as rythm section … your job is to make other people sound better. And zero people teach you that.
Dude i remember learning theory in College and by the 4th semester they were just making shit up it seems like.
davie504 would not be pleased
@@shreksthongg Hahaha
For aux players that dont know what to do
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Great episode.Keep rocking.🤘
always love to hear Victor talk, he gets his message across so good, no need to flex just pure musicality