The toy hauler area is so smart: they thought of everything w/d, half bath, patio - nice! Great 4 person couch w/ heated seats! But needed a breakfast bar in the kitchen area. Also need screen doors on the patio doors. Loft - nice place for a plant.
It is a great rv! This is a lottery prize. Likes 1. Back patio use for a dinning area 2. All of the awnings 3. Solar ready because you will need the extra power for 3 air conditioners Dislikes 1. Side porch too many doors for access 2. Kitchen is a little tight 3. Price
Huge! And wow, what a lot of room! My 3's: Dislikes: 1. The two patios. I just am not a fan. 2. Small toilet space in both bathrooms. 3. For the size of the camper, it just seems that the areas (living, kitchen) are undersized. The obvious emphasis is on the toy hauling space and patios rather than inside storage and living. Jmho Likes: 1. The bed placement and bedroom as a whole. 2. Interior colors and designs. 3. Awnings.
Dislikes: The bathroom sink looks like it belongs to Fred Flintstone! That NO NO NO room toilet. And, the vents in the floor. I love the colors, layout, and patios. If I was looking for a toy hauler, what could I do about that toilet? Sheesh!
You would definitely have to get a cover of some kind to protect the tv in that situation. Definitely a concern. Maybe the tv has the ability to be removed in that situation.
3 Likes: 1: Garage area with 2 patios and power dinette and bunk 2: Nice kitchen layout with oven and convection microwave 3: The windows in the living room make it feel airy and spacious 3 Dislikes: 1: Cramped toilet in main bathroom 2: Exterior ladder is sketchy 3: Looks kind of plain inside for an MSRP over $100000
It's a nice unit. Like the bedroom set up Like the back for the washer and dryer set up. Like both porches. Love the farmer sink.👍 Don't like the kitchen to small Don't like toilet placement In the front Unit get 🌟🌟🌟
Thanks for the review. As a former toyhauler owner, one of my biggest issues with these large units is the ladders you have to store in the garage. Issue for was was hauling 2 dresser motorcycles. Where do you out the stairs? Not room for both. Kind of defeats the purpose of the “toy” hauler versus a “ladder” hauler. They need to figure out a better way to manage the stairs. Nice bed room but the living space was about the same as our 33 footer... yes you do go to campgrounds if carrying road bikes... haul to where you want to ride...
I agree. The stairs are massive and bulky. I took mine out and don’t use them, unfortunately because I don’t have room with my side x side in the garage.
Misunderstood. I guess they could ride between the beds, but they are pretty heavy for one person to lift up and down, especially the older you get...like me.
I have the 2020 429 raptor and I stay at koa and thousand trail I also stay at really nice rv parks and I've never had an issue being to close to the next rv, I guess we choose our rv parks accordingly. But you are the only guy that will get on the roof.
Great video guys, even though I'm not a big fan of Toy Haulers. What can I say, I'm not much of an outdoorsman. I will say that I would've liked to see the awnings extended and the garage area deployed with the beds/sofas.
I'm 7:24 into this video and sheez, I'm feeling dizzy, no lie. And I'm not really afraid of heights. I used to rappel often when I lived in the mountains and loved it. But having you on that roof like that is freaking me out Matt, lol. I swear! And Andrea is always so sweet with her "hold on now" and be carefuls. Y'all are just awesome
This thing is a freakin HOUSE. Likes: 1-the TWO patio areas. 2- as always, the multi purpose garage that is the sheer genius of a toy hauler. 3- LOVE the flooring. Dislikes: 1- the risk of water leakage from those patio entrances. 2- the rando bunk. I’d rather have a giant cabinet with a pull out shelf for additional storage. 3- the side roof/death trap ladder
Matt - regarding the side patio, I took my 2016 Raptor 422 to small and large parks and “resorts”, and not once did I ever park it anywhere that precluded deploying the side deck! There were instances where the steps could not be installed on the deck, but there was always room to deploy it. GIANT WORD OF CAUTION: Check with the deck manufacturer to see if the deck can be left deployed in the rain. OURS (2016) COULD NOT!! We had to constantly watch the weather, and if it was going to rain we had to close both decks or the water would destroy them. This was a HUGE bummer, a giant pain in the butt. I wrote to Lippert numerous times complaining, posted to their Facebook page pleading that they redesign the deck to be waterproof. Eventually I gave up. I don’t know if they’ve since improved this.
I used to own the 2016 Raptor 422, the first edition of this platform. The cable-driven slides were a holy terror. The cables that pulled the slides IN passed through a narrow hole in a sheetmetal frame. The cable mounting bracket on the outside of the slide was supposed to be carefully aligned so that when the slide was all the way in, the cable was centered in that hole. Of course, it wasn’t. Vibration when towing sawed through the cables. Maintenance people at Camping World over-tightened the new cables. Over time, the cable mounting brackets on the inside of the slide (that pull the slide out) began to pull out of the slide walls. Neither the Keystone warranty nor the extended warranty covered it. $4,000.00 to replace 4 slide walls! If this unit still employs cable operated slides, BUY THE CRIMPER, LEARN HOW TO REPLACE CABLES AND HOW TO PROPERLY TENSION THEM. Don’t expect anyone else to do it right.
I love this so much. It’s do big it feels like a destination trailer Likes: Love the Kitchen (counter space. Oven. Fridge). Garage and backdoor The additional inside bunk. Many more likes. Dislikes: The table set up to eat The floor vents. The cabinets are too high for short people
If you are in the market for a 40+ TH......minus the side patio....the Grand Design Momentum 397TH is a better 40+ 2 bath toy hauler. More storage, better kitchen design, a full basement, 2 full baths, and not cubicle master bath.
OK...it`s `merica dang-et! that toy hauller is fer my huntin` spot! I might even take it ta NASCAR...Gotta take the maul to that poopin cube though! move the sink there and the pooper. What wuz they thinking... Great review guys!
I'd have been stuck up there forever once I tried to come down and realized that there was nothing to hold onto at all!!! I'd still be there today. Omg!!!
Just gotta point out the 2 drawers on the sink side of the kitchen at the bottom are blocked by the "pots and pans" drawer @18:25. Seems like an easy fix by just changing out the drawer pull on the big drawer under the oven. For over 100k MSRP feels like someone was lazy with that design. 3 Things i like * Patio's with awnings * North / South bed in Master * The Doors leading out to the rear patio (a bunch of older toy haulers either have nothing or a full wall to wall drop down screen) 3 Things i dislike * Side Ladder * Living room and 1/2 bath layout feels way to cramped, person sitting on the couch closest to the fireplace is going to get roasted quick. * Master bathroom, the counter top looks out of place with the rest of the build, would have liked the kitchen led counter top better than that fake rock looking thing. The toilet placement seems cramped.
Would never buy this but it's the best 5th wheeler toy hauler I've seen. I like that both propane tanks are on the same side, I love the interior. Don't like beds in the garage. If you arrive at night and it's raining you've got to unload all the toys just to go to sleep. Don't need side patio, just second door to the half bath.
I love the patios, the reclining couch, I love the storage. I hate how the toilet is placed in the full bathroom, how small the kitchen is, and how scrappy the ladder is for the roof access.
Likes: I love the kitchen layout with the two-way fridge Bedroom with nightstands Large sofa with TV and fireplace Dislikes: Vents in the floor No shades/blinds at the side patio doors On the whole just too big for travelling around a lot
Likes - so many i crammed alot into 3 :D 1like how the back has a bed and dinette as well, the two patios, great for hanging outside if you have dogs expecially nice 2 love the kitchen so much counter space and big fridge 3the decoration the valence, the color of the wood, the color of the couch Dislikes 1too many doors, that side patio doesnt need a door to the back area. 2the long couch, it need some of the mini tables in front of it 3 master toilet space :(
As a 5th wheel guy who stays in campgrounds, let me explain the two decks. It's more common to find a space too short for a rear deck, than it is too narrow for a side deck. This gives you a higher option of being able to open one of them, or that awesome time when you can open both. The main bathroom sucks. And I detest that fridge, rather have a large residential with built in ice and an inverter. I have an OR 376FBH, not a toy hauler. It's 2 feet shorter, and weighs 2,500 lbs less, but I have a 4,200 lbs cargo capacity. This just isn't a great design, they couldn't decide if they wanted a park model or an off-roading toyhauler.
WOW!! That is a big toy hauler. Likes: 1. The side patio and back deck were both thoughtfully designed. Access, awnings, doors on the back, nice steps. 2. Ready for a stacking washer and dryer and the fresh water tank is large enough to use them. 3. Position of the bed allows access from both sides and bedroom has nice storage. Dislikes: 1. Bathrooms. Both appeared very tight and need to be redesigned.. 2. Kitchen layout is also tight. Also, since the kitchen is so tight I think losing either the microwave/convection oven or the oven and having another cupboard would be beneficial. 3. Lack out outside storage is a problem. The overall height of this toy hauler allows for more storage underneath. Some of the interior storage was so high that most people can't reach it, so giving up a little of the ceiling height inside to have outside storage would be a win.
That toy hauler is a monster. No wonder they look so huge when you pass them. They always seem to dwarf any pickup towing them. But, it's really nice. I hope you do more.
Three things I dislike: 1. Tiny little cubby hole for the toilet! WHAT??? 2. TV seems like is it so dang close to the couch. 3. Some of the outside storage doors open up. Three things I like: 1. The bedroom is great! Love the walk around space on all three sides. 2. Love the heavy duty steps into the RV. 3. Love that there is a half bath at the back of the rig.
i wouldn't say this is "the World's Largest", unless IT WAS ! Love the design, cant tell build quality from a video would want to see in person. The galley looks TIGHT for more than one person.
I love Keystone Raptor, it is built with plenty of living space for relaxing with an awesome wrap. Dislikes: 1) Not a fan of the ladder design, too wobbly and would have loved to seen a reel for the 50 amp power cord 2) the half bath needs the counter trimmed just a touch for leg room. The cabinet in the garage are way too high for easy access 3)Master bathroom need to move the toilet around, no 4Ps. Woop woop 4) I would prefer side vents versus floor panel Love: 1) Absolutely love having the side patio and rear patio both being under awnings. This gives soooo much space to relax in rain or shine and a patio doors for both patios 2) Kitchen has plenty of counters and storage. Thanks for having the oven and convection microwave 3) the North South Bedroom design with good storage
One thing I have learned about 5th wheels is that once you buy, ALWAYS keep another $10,000 on hand to pay for the modifications I would make such as changing out the side ladder to full-size 316 Grade anti-corrosion Stainless steel with collapsible hand-railings that go right to the roof-top, then I would add a 150 foot Tannay Reel (they make GREAT cable reels) for extended length 50 amp+ service. I would buy a heavy duty aluminum step-ladder for those high cabinets, AND I would add an extra foot to the center island with some extra shelving space. Then I would add the computerized satellite internet/dish TV dome on the top and a portable SILENT-mode winterized propane generator that has dual mode 5000 watts (for your light use days) and the 12,000 watts output mode for your 24 hour heavy duty-use days! This would need the 55 gallon (around 200 litres) propane tanks added to the back bed of the truck so you can boondock in the middle of nowhere for at least two weeks up to six weeks at a time if you use your propane wisely! Then I would spend some money on a ruggedized slide-out BBQ and 24 inch wide food prep-table AND then add the outdoor-ruggedized pop-out and rotating 65 inch 4K resolution 240 hz TV and Xbox on the patio for my outdoor gaming and movie watching! For the cool nights, I would add the extra winter tent-like Thinsulate-insulated zipper-connecting sidewalls and roof to the outdoor patio so you extend the garage out a full size living room-sized environment for the super-hot, rainy and/or snowy days! Also buy a heavy duty rip-stop-nylon covered inflatable couch so you can put it on the now fully-covered patio for you TV viewing and Xbox gaming pleasure! Cats and dogs won't have their claws puncturing the thick heavy rip-stop nylon couch covering! Put in a small portable ceramic space heater to keep yourself nice and warm in the covered patio area! c
HI MATT AND ANDREA..5TH WHEEL YOU COULD LIVE IN..PERMANENT!😯❤1.FAMILY FRIENDLY!2.YOU JUMPIN ON THAT PATIO NICE FOR OUTSIDE ENTERTAINMENT3.FLOORPLAN SWEET!😞1.TOO BIG FOR MY PURPOSE 2.PRICE ISNT BAD..CANT FIND ANYTHING BAD..LOVE IT..MAYBE LATER IN MY LIFE!👍GREAT REVIEW KIDS!
You can open the fridge and pass through to the living room from the front door. You can't get into the main living from the garage. Yes the backsplash is one piece.
Yes, one tank is for the Generator and one for the fuel station. I've heard of people putting diesel in the fuel station but I don’t know if it is advisable or if there are issues with doing it.
I like this toy hauler but, the toilet area would be tight with me just a bit. It is a nice fifth wheel. The bedroom is nice and having to patios is nice. I like the shower. Living room is nice. Storage is great. Thank you Matt and Andrea for showing this toy hauler.
We sold our Vengeance 40D12 last year due to kids all in college. But we'll be back in a toy hauler very soon. For anyone contemplating a side patio camper, DO IT! It was by far the best part of our last camper and I plan to always have a side patio in the future.
This was my first video with these guys. WOW, what a hoot !!! They show the unit like most people would tour it on their own; likes and dislikes. I like the two patios with awnings, w/d hook-up, and the N/S master bed.
The 3 things I like about this fifth wheel toy hauler: 1. the patios, two entrances to the side patio, the four season door on the back patio, and awnings for both patios, combo with the garage: prepped for stackable washer/dryer, bench seats to use as a dinette and layout for use as a bed 2. the kitchen, compared to other fifth wheel toy haulers, has a lot of counter space, and a spot to use as a coffee station 3. the bedroom: a lot space around the bed The 3 things I don't like about this fifth wheel toy hauler: 1. toilet placement in the master bath 2. heat ducts in the floor 3. really high cabinets
As much space as they have and both bathrooms are terrible. Almost like an afterthought. This is made for fun and I would dread having to use either toilet!
I love this so much! I’d take it to Maine and park it for the summer💜 Love: kitchen, bedroom, couch and fireplace. I also like that the garage can be a dining room and storage area.
Y'all are great! Love your reviews! Side patio is really nice! Refridge size is good. Color is Wah Waaah! Hate the out dated tin can look on the refridge. Otherwise it's a great unit!
I love the side patio with two doors. I love garage cargo capacity. I feel they could've laid out the bathroom better, on camera it appears restricted. Nice unit.
While we appreciate you going up on the roofs, we agree that side ladder is off limit to you. Better to be safe. Very nice. Love the patios and side doors. TV is kind of a neck wrecker. Toilet in master bath, nope 👎 All in all very, very nice.
i love the garage and two decks i love the two way fridge i HATE that there is no dining area inside. I dont want to eat in the garage or on the sofa I hate the TV on the patio (and if there was one in the garage I hate it too. And while we are on the subject a smaller TV in the living area would allow foe better use of the space get rid of the door from the bathroom to the bedroom and you could lay out the bathroom better and i really hate the gray
Likes: The 2 decks Lots of storage in the kitchen Big sofa Dislikes: That the generator is under the master bed The toilet's position in the main bathroom Roof ladder on the side
I need a toy hauler...a bigger one than the one I’ve got. It’s bathroom is 1000% better than the full bathroom in this one. I like: storage in bedroom, the patios, and the garage. I dislike: the size of the fridge, I think a smaller one is more practical (that size fridge encourages bringing or buying more food just to fill it up, at the end of the trip, you will be bringing that food back into your home-the fact that it’s not a residential fridge is a good thing) And that room could have been used for something else. Dislike the kitchen. I think a single level to the kitchen counter is preferable and I don’t want to be boxed in when working in the kitchen. If you are washing dishes, someone else decides they want a sandwich, you have to move just so they can access knives. I think Arcadian door would be better for the patios would be better and allow more light in when the patios are down. I’m also not digging the tv outside. When I go boon docking, I wouldn’t want to hear the tv.
Hello, this got 3 whistles!😁 I love the layout, colors. Love the patio, the storage. Windows are awesome! Love the kitchen counter tops! Fridge is cool! Love the huge kitchen sink. The master is gorgeous! I don't like how the toilet is in that tiny space! Don't like the vents on the floor. Kind of pricey but overall, this toy hauler is beautiful!! Great review Matt and Andrea!!👍👍❤❤
I love love love this video can I move in now. It's time to give don't or do like but instead it's time to give Matt and andrea making videos of high quality showing to us followers to buy. I will bow down to you two for hard work and caring about your followers to do your videos. I think you again for being good people and to us followers. Keep up the good perfect work!
+ OK people, this is the only toy hauler on the market currently that has a large enough garage to fit a small car. And not a Smart car or crummy golf cart, but something better like a Fiat 500 or a classic Mini Cooper. Just barely. Every other toy hauler on the market that I researched has about 9 ft usable garage space, and it's just not enough to actually park a car and close the door, aside from barely squeezing in maybe a Smart Car with an inch to spare and hardly any way to open the door to the "garage" or get in and out of it.( hope you do limbo competitions) This could fit a classic Mini Cooper no problem. + Love the side deck. Other makers should do this as well. Why do you have to slum around outside under the awning on the dirt while you watch TV? In this one, you don't. + Price. It's expensive, but for what it is, it is an actual livable 5th wheel with a garage and patio. Or, my other dream, an actual 2 bedroom 5th Wheel if you don't use the garage. As in an office with its own entrance 2 rooms. - Master bath is.. odd. This thing is HUGE and such a tiny bathroom. - Ladder on the side looks treacherous. It needs a grab handle at the top. - Floor vents. All the dirt, finding its forever home (tm)
Andrea, tell Matt to slow down, he's missing things. Dislikes.. 1, Toilet stuffed in the hole in main bathroom. That sux. 2, Half bath, don't need it. Put W/D in there. 3, NO ice maker 4, Heater vents in floor are dirt traps. 5, Put the easy lower steps at the backdoor also. Likes.. 1, W/D Hookups, but put them where half bath is, in the closet. 2, Generator is great, but offer the 1000 watt Super Solar Package. 3, Little coffee bar beside fridge is great to a install a big ice machine under cabinet. ...
The toy hauler area is so smart: they thought of everything w/d, half bath, patio - nice! Great 4 person couch w/ heated seats! But needed a breakfast bar in the kitchen area. Also need screen doors on the patio doors. Loft - nice place for a plant.
Screen doors would be a great idea.
That 5th wheel/toy hauler is a palace.
It is a great rv! This is a lottery prize.
Likes
1. Back patio use for a dinning area
2. All of the awnings
3. Solar ready because you will need the extra power for 3 air conditioners
Dislikes
1. Side porch too many doors for access
2. Kitchen is a little tight
3. Price
I ordered mine. Sorry got it somewhere else. No one could beat the price I got. But I get mine in 2 weeks. Can't wait.
So bad ass! WOW! I need a big truck.
Jayco Seismic Toy hauler also has a two patio floor plan.
Huge! And wow, what a lot of room!
My 3's:
Dislikes:
1. The two patios. I just am not a fan.
2. Small toilet space in both bathrooms.
3. For the size of the camper, it just seems that the areas (living, kitchen) are undersized. The obvious emphasis is on the toy hauling space and patios rather than inside storage and living. Jmho
Likes:
1. The bed placement and bedroom as a whole.
2. Interior colors and designs.
3. Awnings.
Imagine being so blessed that you have one of these.
Imagine knowing how to be a adult and take responsibility
AGREE..PRICE NOT BAD..COULD HAVE COME WITH SOLAR FOR THAT PRICE!
Its okay. There's better fifth wheels
Or so blessed that you can even afford one of these.
LOVE THESE RVS..BUT YES EXPENSIVE..BUT YOU COULD LIVE IN ONE..PERMANENT..SOME FOLKS WOULD IN RETIREMENT!
Dislikes: The bathroom sink looks like it belongs to Fred Flintstone! That NO NO NO room toilet. And, the vents in the floor. I love the colors, layout, and patios. If I was looking for a toy hauler, what could I do about that toilet? Sheesh!
The vents in the floor are for the heater. Probably not a lot options for the toilet.
I like the side patio, but it seems like if it's windy and you have to retract the awning, the tv will be exposed to the weather.
You would definitely have to get a cover of some kind to protect the tv in that situation. Definitely a concern. Maybe the tv has the ability to be removed in that situation.
3 Likes:
1: Garage area with 2 patios and power dinette and bunk
2: Nice kitchen layout with oven and convection microwave
3: The windows in the living room make it feel airy and spacious
3 Dislikes:
1: Cramped toilet in main bathroom
2: Exterior ladder is sketchy
3: Looks kind of plain inside for an MSRP over $100000
It's a nice unit.
Like the bedroom set up
Like the back for the washer and dryer set up.
Like both porches.
Love the farmer sink.👍
Don't like the kitchen to small
Don't like toilet placement
In the front
Unit get 🌟🌟🌟
Thanks for the review. As a former toyhauler owner, one of my biggest issues with these large units is the ladders you have to store in the garage. Issue for was was hauling 2 dresser motorcycles. Where do you out the stairs? Not room for both. Kind of defeats the purpose of the “toy” hauler versus a “ladder” hauler. They need to figure out a better way to manage the stairs. Nice bed room but the living space was about the same as our 33 footer... yes you do go to campgrounds if carrying road bikes... haul to where you want to ride...
I agree. The stairs are massive and bulky. I took mine out and don’t use them, unfortunately because I don’t have room with my side x side in the garage.
@Scott Lair notif you have motorcycles in the garage. That’s the issue.
Misunderstood. I guess they could ride between the beds, but they are pretty heavy for one person to lift up and down, especially the older you get...like me.
Very fun and informative review!
I have the 2020 429 raptor and I stay at koa and thousand trail I also stay at really nice rv parks and I've never had an issue being to close to the next rv, I guess we choose our rv parks accordingly. But you are the only guy that will get on the roof.
Great video guys, even though I'm not a big fan of Toy Haulers. What can I say, I'm not much of an outdoorsman. I will say that I would've liked to see the awnings extended and the garage area deployed with the beds/sofas.
I'm 7:24 into this video and sheez, I'm feeling dizzy, no lie. And I'm not really afraid of heights. I used to rappel often when I lived in the mountains and loved it. But having you on that roof like that is freaking me out Matt, lol. I swear! And Andrea is always so sweet with her "hold on now" and be carefuls. Y'all are just awesome
This thing is a freakin HOUSE. Likes: 1-the TWO patio areas. 2- as always, the multi purpose garage that is the sheer genius of a toy hauler. 3- LOVE the flooring. Dislikes: 1- the risk of water leakage from those patio entrances. 2- the rando bunk. I’d rather have a giant cabinet with a pull out shelf for additional storage. 3- the side roof/death trap ladder
Matt - regarding the side patio, I took my 2016 Raptor 422 to small and large parks and “resorts”, and not once did I ever park it anywhere that precluded deploying the side deck! There were instances where the steps could not be installed on the deck, but there was always room to deploy it. GIANT WORD OF CAUTION: Check with the deck manufacturer to see if the deck can be left deployed in the rain. OURS (2016) COULD NOT!! We had to constantly watch the weather, and if it was going to rain we had to close both decks or the water would destroy them. This was a HUGE bummer, a giant pain in the butt. I wrote to Lippert numerous times complaining, posted to their Facebook page pleading that they redesign the deck to be waterproof. Eventually I gave up. I don’t know if they’ve since improved this.
Great, post. I did not realize that having the deck down in rain was no recommended. Thx for the tip.
I used to own the 2016 Raptor 422, the first edition of this platform. The cable-driven slides were a holy terror. The cables that pulled the slides IN passed through a narrow hole in a sheetmetal frame. The cable mounting bracket on the outside of the slide was supposed to be carefully aligned so that when the slide was all the way in, the cable was centered in that hole. Of course, it wasn’t. Vibration when towing sawed through the cables. Maintenance people at Camping World over-tightened the new cables. Over time, the cable mounting brackets on the inside of the slide (that pull the slide out) began to pull out of the slide walls. Neither the Keystone warranty nor the extended warranty covered it. $4,000.00 to replace 4 slide walls!
If this unit still employs cable operated slides, BUY THE CRIMPER, LEARN HOW TO REPLACE CABLES AND HOW TO PROPERLY TENSION THEM. Don’t expect anyone else to do it right.
Great unit. Love the chemistry between Matt and Andrea, keep up the great work👍🏻
I love this so much. It’s do big it feels like a destination trailer
Likes:
Love the Kitchen (counter space. Oven. Fridge).
Garage and backdoor
The additional inside bunk.
Many more likes.
Dislikes:
The table set up to eat
The floor vents.
The cabinets are too high for short people
If you are in the market for a 40+ TH......minus the side patio....the Grand Design Momentum 397TH is a better 40+ 2 bath toy hauler. More storage, better kitchen design, a full basement, 2 full baths, and not cubicle master bath.
OK...it`s `merica dang-et! that toy hauller is fer my huntin` spot! I might even take it ta NASCAR...Gotta take the maul to that poopin cube though! move the sink there and the pooper. What wuz they thinking...
Great review guys!
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I'd have been stuck up there forever once I tried to come down and realized that there was nothing to hold onto at all!!! I'd still be there today. Omg!!!
This guy Matt is the coolest walk around guy ever, I can’t stop watching these videos
Just gotta point out the 2 drawers on the sink side of the kitchen at the bottom are blocked by the "pots and pans" drawer @18:25.
Seems like an easy fix by just changing out the drawer pull on the big drawer under the oven. For over 100k MSRP feels like someone was lazy with that design.
3 Things i like
* Patio's with awnings
* North / South bed in Master
* The Doors leading out to the rear patio (a bunch of older toy haulers either have nothing or a full wall to wall drop down screen)
3 Things i dislike
* Side Ladder
* Living room and 1/2 bath layout feels way to cramped, person sitting on the couch closest to the fireplace is going to get roasted quick.
* Master bathroom, the counter top looks out of place with the rest of the build, would have liked the kitchen led counter top better than that fake rock looking thing. The toilet placement seems cramped.
Would never buy this but it's the best 5th wheeler toy hauler I've seen. I like that both propane tanks are on the same side, I love the interior. Don't like beds in the garage. If you arrive at night and it's raining you've got to unload all the toys just to go to sleep. Don't need side patio, just second door to the half bath.
Bathroom needs pocket door in to hall. Love the 2 patios.
I love the patios, the reclining couch, I love the storage. I hate how the toilet is placed in the full bathroom, how small the kitchen is, and how scrappy the ladder is for the roof access.
Have you noticed that the lower drawers in the kitchen get blocked by the lower stove drawer handle as they can't pull out all the way ??
3 things I love 1. Kitchen 2. Patios 3. Color scheme 3 things I don’t love 1 master bedroom 2. Floor vents 3. Not enough storage space
Likes:
I love the kitchen layout with the two-way fridge
Bedroom with nightstands
Large sofa with TV and fireplace
Dislikes:
Vents in the floor
No shades/blinds at the side patio doors
On the whole just too big for travelling around a lot
Nice! Hope the TV in the garage can be lowered. Waaaaaay too high. The side patio is super, and I do like the cozy kitchen.
Ain’t the largest toy hauler the thing that used to move the space shuttle around?
LOL.
i would like support legs on the side porch to take the pressure off the cable connections.
The steps help when they are in place at the end of the ramp.
There is a leg that attaches in the middle next to the steps.
Likes - so many i crammed alot into 3 :D
1like how the back has a bed and dinette as well, the two patios, great for hanging outside if you have dogs expecially nice
2 love the kitchen so much counter space and big fridge
3the decoration the valence, the color of the wood, the color of the couch
Dislikes
1too many doors, that side patio doesnt need a door to the back area.
2the long couch, it need some of the mini tables in front of it
3 master toilet space :(
As a 5th wheel guy who stays in campgrounds, let me explain the two decks. It's more common to find a space too short for a rear deck, than it is too narrow for a side deck. This gives you a higher option of being able to open one of them, or that awesome time when you can open both.
The main bathroom sucks. And I detest that fridge, rather have a large residential with built in ice and an inverter. I have an OR 376FBH, not a toy hauler. It's 2 feet shorter, and weighs 2,500 lbs less, but I have a 4,200 lbs cargo capacity. This just isn't a great design, they couldn't decide if they wanted a park model or an off-roading toyhauler.
Looks like an aircraft carrier...WOW. bill in Florida Love the weather in Gainesville too. Yeah!
WOW!! That is a big toy hauler.
Likes: 1. The side patio and back deck were both thoughtfully designed. Access, awnings, doors on the back, nice steps. 2. Ready for a stacking washer and dryer and the fresh water tank is large enough to use them. 3. Position of the bed allows access from both sides and bedroom has nice storage.
Dislikes: 1. Bathrooms. Both appeared very tight and need to be redesigned..
2. Kitchen layout is also tight. Also, since the kitchen is so tight I think losing either the microwave/convection oven or the oven and having another cupboard would be beneficial. 3. Lack out outside storage is a problem. The overall height of this toy hauler allows for more storage underneath. Some of the interior storage was so high that most people can't reach it, so giving up a little of the ceiling height inside to have outside storage would be a win.
Love that toy hauler!!
I didn’t see a TP holder in either bathroom. That potty in a cubby was insane. Could have been a better layout there.
Manufacturers don't install the holder. Usually it is thrown in the welcome bag or the medicine cabinet for the use to install.
That toy hauler is a monster. No wonder they look so huge when you pass them. They always seem to dwarf any pickup towing them. But, it's really nice. I hope you do more.
Three things I dislike:
1. Tiny little cubby hole for the toilet! WHAT???
2. TV seems like is it so dang close to the couch.
3. Some of the outside storage doors open up.
Three things I like:
1. The bedroom is great! Love the walk around space on all three sides.
2. Love the heavy duty steps into the RV.
3. Love that there is a half bath at the back of the rig.
i wouldn't say this is "the World's Largest", unless IT WAS ! Love the design, cant tell build quality from a video would want to see in person. The galley looks TIGHT for more than one person.
Yes, it can be. Mine is similar and there are times when my wife and I step on each other trying to prepare food, but we make it work.
Beautiful, just beautiful
I love Keystone Raptor, it is built with plenty of living space for relaxing with an awesome wrap.
Dislikes:
1) Not a fan of the ladder design, too wobbly and would have loved to seen a reel for the 50 amp power cord
2) the half bath needs the counter trimmed just a touch for leg room. The cabinet in the garage are way too high for easy access
3)Master bathroom need to move the toilet around, no 4Ps. Woop woop
4) I would prefer side vents versus floor panel
Love:
1) Absolutely love having the side patio and rear patio both being under awnings. This gives soooo much space to relax in rain or shine and a patio doors for both patios
2) Kitchen has plenty of counters and storage. Thanks for having the oven and convection microwave
3) the North South Bedroom design with good storage
One thing I have learned about 5th wheels is that once you buy, ALWAYS keep another $10,000 on hand to pay for the modifications I would make such as changing out the side ladder to full-size 316 Grade anti-corrosion Stainless steel with collapsible hand-railings that go right to the roof-top, then I would add a 150 foot Tannay Reel (they make GREAT cable reels) for extended length 50 amp+ service.
I would buy a heavy duty aluminum step-ladder for those high cabinets, AND I would add an extra foot to the center island with some extra shelving space. Then I would add the computerized satellite internet/dish TV dome on the top and a portable SILENT-mode winterized propane generator that has dual mode 5000 watts (for your light use days) and the 12,000 watts output mode for your 24 hour heavy duty-use days! This would need the 55 gallon (around 200 litres) propane tanks added to the back bed of the truck so you can boondock in the middle of nowhere for at least two weeks up to six weeks at a time if you use your propane wisely!
Then I would spend some money on a ruggedized slide-out BBQ and 24 inch wide food prep-table AND then add the outdoor-ruggedized pop-out and rotating 65 inch 4K resolution 240 hz TV and Xbox on the patio for my outdoor gaming and movie watching!
For the cool nights, I would add the extra winter tent-like Thinsulate-insulated zipper-connecting sidewalls and roof to the outdoor patio so you extend the garage out a full size living room-sized environment for the super-hot, rainy and/or snowy days! Also buy a heavy duty rip-stop-nylon covered inflatable couch so you can put it on the now fully-covered patio for you TV viewing and Xbox gaming pleasure! Cats and dogs won't have their claws puncturing the thick heavy rip-stop nylon couch covering! Put in a small portable ceramic space heater to keep yourself nice and warm in the covered patio area!
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You didn’t tell us what is behind the TV in the living room there’s a door there, what’s in there?
Its a pantry
Man you’re funny as hell! I’m glad I stumbled across your channel. Good stuff! This toy hauler is bad ass.
Just amazing if u need that. That’s all. That’s it
Hey Matt and Andrea! I agree with Andrea do not climb that wobbly ladder again. Safety first. Still deciding about the Raptor? Stay safe😉
HI MATT AND ANDREA..5TH WHEEL YOU COULD LIVE IN..PERMANENT!😯❤1.FAMILY FRIENDLY!2.YOU JUMPIN ON THAT PATIO NICE FOR OUTSIDE ENTERTAINMENT3.FLOORPLAN SWEET!😞1.TOO BIG FOR MY PURPOSE 2.PRICE ISNT BAD..CANT FIND ANYTHING BAD..LOVE IT..MAYBE LATER IN MY LIFE!👍GREAT REVIEW KIDS!
2 questions: What is accessible when the slides are in (during travel days)? Is the kitchen backsplash...... Art Deco???
You can open the fridge and pass through to the living room from the front door. You can't get into the main living from the garage. Yes the backsplash is one piece.
we have a 2020 traverse premier with towing but can only tow 5000lbs. 😪
It is very expensive, but the decor is nice.
Omg!!!!!!! Love love love love this is the stuff I am talking about!!! Bad azzzzzzz with wheels!!!
The floor vents on a toy hauler doesn't make sense to me, everything else is doable... i love this though to bad its out of my price range lol
Find a 2019 (New) or maybe 2018, they’re out there.
An where is the dining room
The dining room is in the garage area. The lower bunk coverts in to opposing seats ant there is a folding table that would go in between them.
@@FaboLouis thank you I didn’t understand he didn’t put the bed
Really wish we could have seen the rear deck and screened in part???
Wow two decks
We have the 2020 429 and we love it. The side patio goes down way more than the rear does.
Dislikes: I don't have a big enough truck to pull it, So big, & no outside kitchen.
Likes: Patio's/decks, Big comfy couch w/recliners, & 3-4 Season!!
How i wish the garage can fit another set happijac system.. can fit 4 kids total 8 pax.. love the side patio
Is the fuel station a gas fuel station?
Yes, one tank is for the Generator and one for the fuel station. I've heard of people putting diesel in the fuel station but I don’t know if it is advisable or if there are issues with doing it.
I like this toy hauler but, the toilet area would be tight with me just a bit. It is a nice fifth wheel. The bedroom is nice and having to patios is nice. I like the shower. Living room is nice. Storage is great. Thank you Matt and Andrea for showing this toy hauler.
Good job guys. Definitely would like to see more TH vids :)
We sold our Vengeance 40D12 last year due to kids all in college. But we'll be back in a toy hauler very soon.
For anyone contemplating a side patio camper, DO IT! It was by far the best part of our last camper and I plan to always have a side patio in the future.
Looks like they should have reversed the sink and toilet in the Master Bath
This was my first video with these guys. WOW, what a hoot !!!
They show the unit like most people would tour it on their own; likes and dislikes.
I like the two patios with awnings, w/d hook-up, and the N/S master bed.
Wow no shortage of space in this unit 👍😁
The 3 things I like about this fifth wheel toy hauler:
1. the patios, two entrances to the side patio, the four season door on the back patio, and awnings for both patios, combo with the garage: prepped for stackable washer/dryer, bench seats to use as a dinette and layout for use as a bed
2. the kitchen, compared to other fifth wheel toy haulers, has a lot of counter space, and a spot to use as a coffee station
3. the bedroom: a lot space around the bed
The 3 things I don't like about this fifth wheel toy hauler:
1. toilet placement in the master bath
2. heat ducts in the floor
3. really high cabinets
As much space as they have and both bathrooms are terrible. Almost like an afterthought. This is made for fun and I would dread having to use either toilet!
I love this so much! I’d take it to Maine and park it for the summer💜
Love: kitchen, bedroom, couch and fireplace. I also like that the garage can be a dining room and storage area.
I watch a few diff channels about rv's and mobile homes.. But I gotta say I really like this guys personality lol...good job
Thanks so much Aaron!
Y'all are great! Love your reviews! Side patio is really nice! Refridge size is good. Color is Wah Waaah! Hate the out dated tin can look on the refridge. Otherwise it's a great unit!
I love the side patio with two doors. I love garage cargo capacity. I feel they could've laid out the bathroom better, on camera it appears restricted. Nice unit.
While we appreciate you going up on the roofs, we agree that side ladder is off limit to you. Better to be safe.
Very nice. Love the patios and side doors.
TV is kind of a neck wrecker.
Toilet in master bath, nope 👎
All in all very, very nice.
Love the full bathroom sink looks like it’s from The Flinstone. ( 🦖 Raptor)
I like how the fire place is recess in the wall..
Show me something like a 366rds cougar with the back living room. No bunks or toy hauler. Upgraded space plan features please
The TV outside on deck! If it's starts to rain what do you do?
This is the kingdaka of toy haulers
Loved this hauler but that master bath is a wreck!
i love the garage and two decks
i love the two way fridge
i HATE that there is no dining area inside. I dont want to eat in the garage or on the sofa
I hate the TV on the patio (and if there was one in the garage I hate it too. And while we are on the subject a smaller TV in the living area would allow foe better use of the space
get rid of the door from the bathroom to the bedroom and you could lay out the bathroom better
and i really hate the gray
Likes:
The 2 decks
Lots of storage in the kitchen
Big sofa
Dislikes:
That the generator is under the master bed
The toilet's position in the main bathroom
Roof ladder on the side
I am picking mine up April first, like you guys there are things I love and dislike about the unit.
I need a toy hauler...a bigger one than the one I’ve got. It’s bathroom is 1000% better than the full bathroom in this one.
I like: storage in bedroom, the patios, and the garage.
I dislike: the size of the fridge, I think a smaller one is more practical (that size fridge encourages bringing or buying more food just to fill it up, at the end of the trip, you will be bringing that food back into your home-the fact that it’s not a residential fridge is a good thing)
And that room could have been used for something else.
Dislike the kitchen. I think a single level to the kitchen counter is preferable and I don’t want to be boxed in when working in the kitchen. If you are washing dishes, someone else decides they want a sandwich, you have to move just so they can access knives. I think Arcadian door would be better for the patios would be better and allow more light in when the patios are down. I’m also not digging the tv outside. When I go boon docking, I wouldn’t want to hear the tv.
This is on my short list. I'll be purchasing a fifth wheel soon.
Hello, this got 3 whistles!😁 I love the layout, colors. Love the patio, the storage. Windows are awesome! Love the kitchen counter tops! Fridge is cool! Love the huge kitchen sink. The master is gorgeous! I don't like how the toilet is in that tiny space! Don't like the vents on the floor. Kind of pricey but overall, this toy hauler is beautiful!! Great review Matt and Andrea!!👍👍❤❤
I love love love this video can I move in now. It's time to give don't or do like but instead it's time to give Matt and andrea making videos of high quality showing to us followers to buy. I will bow down to you two for hard work and caring about your followers to do your videos. I think you again for being good people and to us followers. Keep up the good perfect work!
+ OK people, this is the only toy hauler on the market currently that has a large enough garage to fit a small car. And not a Smart car or crummy golf cart, but something better like a Fiat 500 or a classic Mini Cooper. Just barely. Every other toy hauler on the market that I researched has about 9 ft usable garage space, and it's just not enough to actually park a car and close the door, aside from barely squeezing in maybe a Smart Car with an inch to spare and hardly any way to open the door to the "garage" or get in and out of it.( hope you do limbo competitions) This could fit a classic Mini Cooper no problem.
+ Love the side deck. Other makers should do this as well. Why do you have to slum around outside under the awning on the dirt while you watch TV? In this one, you don't.
+ Price. It's expensive, but for what it is, it is an actual livable 5th wheel with a garage and patio. Or, my other dream, an actual 2 bedroom 5th Wheel if you don't use the garage. As in an office with its own entrance 2 rooms.
- Master bath is.. odd. This thing is HUGE and such a tiny bathroom.
- Ladder on the side looks treacherous. It needs a grab handle at the top.
- Floor vents. All the dirt, finding its forever home (tm)
Where does the $83 trash can come from?
It’s just a joke 🤣 because rvs are pricey and it’s funny when they actually give you something for free
Andrea Foxcroft 😂😂😂
What are the dimensions for the side patio?
Hey Andrea how are you and Matt doing with getting your class c thanks for for making making theses videos and sending to me
Hi Bobby! We haven’t gotten our Rv yet.we need to wait till inventory gets back up again
@@andreafoxcroft8420 so are going to it off to your subscribers when you get it 😀
The biggest toy hauler is the garagezilla at 45 feet long with a 20 foot garage
Thanks for giving us the real on thise bathrooms lol honestly
Still think there is a way to make AC's raise & lower for lower total ceil ht but not sure I can give that modification away ppl got a pay for that1.
Andrea, tell Matt to slow down, he's missing things.
Dislikes..
1, Toilet stuffed in the hole in main bathroom. That sux.
2, Half bath, don't need it. Put
W/D in there.
3, NO ice maker
4, Heater vents in floor are dirt traps.
5, Put the easy lower steps at the backdoor also.
Likes..
1, W/D Hookups, but put them where half bath is, in the closet.
2, Generator is great, but offer the 1000 watt Super Solar Package.
3, Little coffee bar beside fridge is great to a install a big ice machine under cabinet.
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What is your take on the Heartland Cyclone?
Thanks for the recommendation about the KOA sites, that's all we use.